07-25-25 - Sibling Rivalry Is Real Even Though Brady Tries To Not Admit It

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona Episode: July 25, 2025
Title: Sibling Rivalry Is Real Even Though Brady Tries To Not Admit It
Host/Author: 98KUPD | Hubbard Radio

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Introduction

In the July 25, 2025 episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness on Arizona's #1 morning radio show, host John Holmberg delves into the complex dynamics of sibling rivalry. Assisted by his co-hosts Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, and Dick Toledo, Brady engages in a candid and often heated discussion with his sister, unpacking the underlying tensions and competitive instincts that exist even among close siblings.

Main Discussion: Unveiling Sibling Rivalry

The episode centers around Brady and his sister confronting the often unspoken competitive feelings that can arise between siblings. From the outset, Brady sets a confrontational tone, challenging the notion that sibling rivalry doesn't exist in their relationship.

Brady (01:38):
"Stop talking about Bobby Hurley being Dan Hurley's brother. It's embarrassing to everyone, especially ASU and Bobby Hurley."

This statement ignites a back-and-forth where Brady accuses his sister of harboring envy and rivalry, despite her claims to the contrary.

Brady's Sister (02:09):
"No. Well, I'm not really. I don't feel there's competition between my brother and me."

Brady counters her defense by pointing out subtle jabs and passive-aggressive remarks she makes regarding their sibling's successes.

Brady (03:09):
"She crushed it. You didn't. You have to kind of eat that poop. And she has to live in the fact that she is, without question, the most successful of all the Bogan kids."

The conversation escalates as Brady and his sister dissect each other's achievements and shortcomings, revealing deep-seated insecurities and the perpetual comparison that fuels sibling rivalry.

Comparisons to Other Sibling Dynamics

To illustrate their points, Brady draws parallels with well-known sibling relationships, notably referencing the Stallone brothers and the Hurley brothers.

Brady (08:12):
"Brady is gonna call his sister and tell her to go F herself today."

He further explores how public figures like Frank Stallone navigate their relationship with his more famous brother, Sylvester Stallone, highlighting that sibling rivalry is a universal phenomenon.

Brady (09:07):
"Frank Stallone. Go win a championship. Quiet this nonsense. I'm tired of it."

Similarly, Brady discusses the dynamic between Bobby Hurley and his brother Dan Hurley, emphasizing how professional successes can strain familial bonds.

Brady (11:48):
"Bobby Hurley coaching ASU right now just because Dan's a champion somewhere. None. None."

These comparisons serve to underscore that sibling rivalry, whether overt or subtle, is a common thread in many families, regardless of public recognition.

Notable Quotes and Moments

Throughout the episode, several quotes stand out, encapsulating the essence of the discussion:

• Brady (02:37):
  "If you were in the same business, same field. And you are losing violently, financially."

• Brady (06:16):
  "These are passive-aggressive zingers to the most successful poker. Don't think anybody. You're taking shots at your sister."

• Brady's Sister (15:24):
  "I can. For both. There's enough to go around. For both."

• Brady (17:47):
  "John, are you serious? You're telling me that Brady's sister doesn't wake up every morning wishing she had a sauce empire."

These moments highlight the tension and underlying resentment that can permeate sibling relationships, even when outward appearances suggest harmony.

Conclusion

The episode concludes without a definitive resolution, reflecting the ongoing nature of sibling rivalry. Brady's persistent challenge and his sister's defensive responses illustrate that acknowledging and addressing these feelings is crucial for maintaining healthy familial relationships. The candid exchange serves as a reminder that sibling rivalry is a deeply ingrained aspect of human relationships, often masked by smiles and polite conversation but ever-present beneath the surface.

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Notable Timestamps:

• 01:38: Brady criticizes the focus on Bobby and Dan Hurley's relationship.
• 02:09: Brady's sister denies the presence of competition.
• 03:09: Brady accuses his sister of feeling overshadowed.
• 08:12: Discussion about Frank and Sylvester Stallone's sibling dynamic.
• 09:07: Brady vents frustration over Bobby Hurley's coaching role.
• 15:24: Brady's sister counters the notion of rivalry with cooperation.
• 17:47: Brady mocks the idea that his sister lacks daily aspirations beyond their rivalry.

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This episode offers listeners an unfiltered look into the complexities of sibling relationships, emphasizing that even in moments of apparent support, underlying tensions can persist. Brady's outspoken nature and his sister's resilience create a dynamic conversation that many can relate to, making this episode both engaging and thought-provoking for those navigating similar familial landscapes.

Transcript

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[Brady]

Best of Homework's Morning Sickness this is the Big Red Radio. Stop talking about Bobby Hurley being Dan Hurley's brother. It's embarrassing to everyone, especially ASU and Bobby Hurley. I know you're taking great pride in it, Bobby. You have to say so. And you're probably proud of your brother, but deep down that stings you as an individual human. You don't want to hear how your brother's kicking ass and you haven't done anything over here. Nothing. What? You're gonna think that's different?

[Brady's Sister]

No. Well, I'm not really. I don't feel there's competition between my brother and I.

[Brady]

Sure there is.

[Brady's Sister]

It's just too different. I mean, like, he's a teacher and he's now the right, you know, in charge of the director of the science program. High school. Just got a promotion there and you're clever in financial kind of award that I never again. That's awesome.

[Brady]

Right? Because he's in a different field. Yeah. If you were in the same business, same field. And you are losing violently, financially.

[Brady's Sister]

I pushed him out of sports and success.

[Brady]

That, and the fact is that you're doing better than him. So it doesn't really. You don't have it. There's no sibling rivalry there. He probably wakes up every once in a while and goes, God damn, Brady. He sits in that room, makes stupid fart jokes. Somehow or another, I'm a teacher. I'm molding the future. And I don't make half of what he makes. That mother every once in a while. And then it goes. But I'm really proud of him. But I'm real proud of him. I'm real proud of him. Don't think your sister doesn't wake up every morning in her glorious palace and think of you and go, well, at least I'm not him.

[Brady's Sister]

That's every day different fields. Mrs. Degree Jackpot.

[Brady]

She crushed it. You didn't. You have to kind of eat that poop. And she has to live in the fact that she is, without question the most successful of all the Bogan kids. And she knows it. Everybody does. You know which brother and sister is the best. Now he's starting to steam up a little bit. No. And it bothers you that I would say how much of a failure you are compared to Amy. And it's true. I am not. See, I just hit the nerve. There it is.

[Brady's Sister]

She is definitely a way better wife than I could ever.

[Brady]

That's exactly right. She played the game better than you.

[Brady's Sister]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Not only did she do better this way, that way, and the other, she went off and married some guy who's killing it.

[Brady's Sister]

You proud of.

[Brady]

Not even close.

[Brady's Sister]

Proud of her?

[Brady]

Sure you are. Absolutely. I'm sure of it.

[Host 1]

Is that what you're going with?

[Brady]

Proud of him? Yeah. Oh, and aren't you, though? Look at his face.

[Frank]

It. It.

[Brady]

It'll eat everybody. You can't help it. You're proud of him. And then deep down you're like, but God damn it. And I'm sure in your head you're going, well, she married well. You just did it there. She married money. Kind of what you just said worked out well. So it was a little bit of a punch to her guts, because it's like, that's your in to say, well, she's only successful because someone else she.

[Brady's Sister]

Was successful in that worked hard for that.

[Brady]

These are passive aggressive zingers to the most successful poker. Don't think anybody. Don't think you're pulling a cloak over anybody. You're taking shots at your sister.

[Frank]

I love the fact.

[Brady's Sister]

Of course.

[Brady]

Yes. That what's happening.

[Frank]

That my sister's riding the gravy train.

[Brady's Sister]

They're living a good life.

[Brady]

Of course you are. But deep down, when I say Amy's the best one, you're like, yep, she married well. You're always gonna remind me that it's because of someone else. Because that sibling rivalry, you can't escape. It can't be escaped. Cannot be escaped.

[Brady's Sister]

She picks up a radio job in the next couple years, and then now there might be some rivalry.

[Brady]

You'll see. There's rivalry. You do it. You've joked about it four times.

[Frank]

She did very well. She's a good wife. I could never do the things she does.

[Brady]

I see. So that's what's. I get. It's a kick in her nuts a little bit there.

[Brady's Sister]

I meant that in a good way.

[Brady]

We'll see you tomorrow, folks. Evidently, I'm gonna deal with the hostile witness liar all morning long. Meant that. There's no reason to bring it up. Stupid. Look at you giggling away over there.

[Frank]

Not at all.

[Brady's Sister]

I'm giggling, but I don't. I. I don't feel the rivalry hatred.

[Brady]

Braden, you just made four jokes about why she's successful. That's what I'm talking about. That's the rivalry. That's the rivalry. The rivalry is when I say she's more successful, you take a shot at her success. That's rivalry.

[Brady's Sister]

All right.

[Brady]

Am I wrong? Come on. If I told you it was like, wow, Mathias. Really successful, right? Yeah, because she married it. But I'm real proud of her. Like, wait a second. That's a kind of a backhanded slap at her success. Well, she didn't have anything to do with it. She's a good wife to a guy who did really well. She's a successful wife.

[Brady's Sister]

It takes the. That's how you would. It takes the rivalry part out of it. It's like, because her life has turned out great, that's what you want for your.

[Brady]

Like, I told you, she's the most successful of all of the kids in the Bogan family.

[Brady's Sister]

Okay.

[Brady]

By far.

[Brady's Sister]

That's fine.

[Brady]

I'm not arguing people walking in. But. Okay, fine. Okay.

[Brady's Sister]

Yeah, I didn't mean like that. It's like, okay, great. I'm fine with that.

[Brady]

Okay. Shut the heck up. Why do you have to be so grouchy about it? Then just say, man, I'm so happy. She's the best thing that's ever happened to me.

[Frank]

She married well. She has a good. She's a Good wife.

[Brady]

Those are backhanded slaps. It's a thing whether you want it to be or not. Whether you try to.

[Brady's Sister]

There might be envy there, maybe a little bit.

[Brady]

That's sibling rivalry, man. You can dance around it with those glasses all you want. It's there. It doesn't mean you hate them.

[Brady's Sister]

I don't think there is, but maybe there is.

[Brady]

Brady, you've ex. You have shown it in the last eight minutes how much there is. Because all I said one time was she's the most successful one.

[Frank]

She's a good wife. She did things I could never do.

[Brady]

That's a smacker in the face, basically saying that she married a guy successful. I'd have passed her if I could blow a guy like that. That's basically what you said about your sister.

[Brady's Sister]

Now that you put it there, I'm.

[Frank]

Not willing to blow a rich man. So she is by far the most successful.

[Brady's Sister]

Now that you put it that way.

[Brady]

I am a slap. It's a slap fight with her. But you can't just be in the nuance. You have to say that if you are having any sort of rivalry or any sort of thing like that, that it means you hate her or you're angry about it all the time. It's just there. It lives. You can't. It can't be escaped. It just lives. You're so lucky you don't have one. But you saw what I saw, right? Yeah, I did. Thank you. You can dance. All intentional.

[Host 1]

I mean, but it's just.

[Brady]

It's just I don't know how Brady feels being the loser in the family. Because I'm the killer. I'm the winner. So I am the Amy of my family. You are again.

[Brady's Sister]

There's more rivalry, huh? That you're killing it.

[Brady]

Oh, absolutely. But Brady, guess what? I'm the one honest about it. I'm making the point about crushing when.

[Brady's Sister]

You'Re bringing that up to me.

[Brady]

There's no rivalry. There's no rivalry. You have to be competitive to have a rivalry. There's no rivalry in mind. I am clear cut favorite forever and ever. Just kill her. Crushed it. She's useless compared to me. Useless. Useless. I am the farm. She is the grass. That's it. That's it. She's like a single pitchfork. I'm Home Depot.

[Host 1]

You're. You're pissing off Frank Stallone.

[Brady]

I know Frank Stallone has to say, hey, yo, I'm very proud of Rocky. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're real proud of Rocky. You Know I was in it. He's gonna tell you. You know I was in. I did the music for. Yeah, yeah. That's why we remember it, actually. Bill Conti did the music for it. You did a song standing around a. He made you a homeless guy in the movie. I mean, that's.

[Brady's Sister]

That's why he brought him back into the reality show.

[Brady]

Sure.

[Brady's Sister]

He's a big part of that.

[Brady]

I guarantee you that It's Frank's idea that there is a reality film. Hey, you know, Sly, what would be great is if you threw me a little bone here, put yourself on TV and included me. Maybe I get my own show out of it. I'll do what I can, Frecko. You know, we got nothing to do. We'll just roll camera. You don't think Frank, his whole family.

[Brady's Sister]

Between the wife and the daughters, they're all competitive? Probably.

[Brady]

Sure. You don't think Frank, to help them out, has had to come to grips, at the very least, with being Sly Stallone's brother?

[Brady's Sister]

I'm not sure. I probably.

[Brady]

Are you kidding?

[Brady's Sister]

No. No. Has he come to grips with it? I. I would think by now.

[Brady]

Come to grips with it. Whether he did or not, I don't know. But he's had to have to force himself in this room alone. We make Frank Stallone a punchline. Oh, yeah, that's his life. Cause we all can relate to that whole, wow, if my brother was Sly Stallone, that would kind of suck and also be awesome at the same time.

[Host 1]

Frank's like, he never sang.

[Brady]

Far from over. Like I could. You have it there in here.

[Brady's Sister]

Still touring.

[Brady]

You know, I couldn't do it. Cause I never wanted to. I'm not a twink. You made your choice. And now my chance is over. And people go, oh, this song. It's from that Sylvester Stallone movie.

[Frank]

Who sang this?

[Brady]

Frank Stallone. Wow. So he got a job from his brother. Brother. Nobody thinks he earned this.

[Host 1]

Sylvester Stone's brother.

[Brady]

Right?

[Host 1]

Name's on the tip of my tongue.

[Brady]

And let me tell you this. Without Sly. Is this song in any movies? No.

[Brady's Sister]

Maybe a cry.

[Host 1]

It was a bad movie. It was in, too.

[Brady]

On top of terrible movie.

[Host 1]

This is the best part of that movie.

[Brady]

Without a doubt. And that's. Yeah. So there you go. And I like Frank. Oh, yeah.

[Brady's Sister]

He came up with a gem here. It matched.

[Brady]

Brady should love Frank. He's very similar to Frank in his family dynamic.

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[Brady]

Slaps his sister.

[Frank]

I don't know what you're talking about. No rivalry whatsoever. She can gargle the nuts of a millionaire if she wants to. I would never do it. That's her success.

[Brady]

Like, wow, what a. There are no rivalry at all. It just happens. But Bobby Hurley and his brother Dan, they may be best friends and all that stuff, but deep down, if you told Bobby, do you want to switch places with Dan right now, we can arrange it. He'd say, you betcha. Absolutely. I want what he's got. They're trying to get the same thing. Not his fault that they keep rubbing it in his face. It's the media, Bobby Hurley, our own Bobby Hurley's right. He has accomplished nothing. There's no pride, no point of pride. And Bobby Hurley coaching ASU right now just because Dan's a champion somewhere. None. None.

[Brady's Sister]

I was saying that the, you know, the tables had turned because Bobby was the guy early on.

[Brady]

Sure, Bobby was the man. And I bet you Dan was like, man, this kind of stinks, but he's really good at this. And now Dan's getting it all. But we're standing in today. So you sit back and go, he's had his success, now it's mine. Bobby wants to coach for championships. He doesn't want to go. Well, I don't need that if he's doing that over at asu. Well, I've already got my championships. Fire him today. If he's coaching with the idea that his past has any bearing on what's going on right now, fire him right now. Yeah, I got my championship. I don't have to worry about that. I'm not even trying for him. Get him out of here. If he isn't eaten alive in his office today, like, yeah, I love him, but that. It's pissing me off. I want one of those. Fire him today. But if he'll say, I've got my two championships, that get him out of the building. Cuz that's just a weak minded, worthless kind of mentality for a guy. You're saying, hey, we're trusting you with the entire deal. Go get it. I already got mine. Or you're out there, you're gone. Let's go find a hungrier person. If it's on his resume at all. Dan Hurley, brother. Fire him today. And I know he's not doing that, but all the media outlets are. It's terrible. It's like when we had Phil Mickelson constantly yelling about how Phil Mickelson's for. And he's doing commercials for Come to California. It's my home. Like he doesn't live here. Stop it. Stop putting your stamp on stuff that isn't here. It's a weak mentality. It's true. And again, I can't understand it the way Brady does. My sister can't compete with me at all. I don't have a. I don't have to look up the dresses.

[Brady's Sister]

Mine can't either.

[Brady]

Oh, yeah, she can. She's crushing me.

[Brady's Sister]

You're way financially another story.

[Brady]

And that's all that matters. That's all we all do it for. Success. Brett's the winner here because you know what? No matter what your parents are like, well, he's all we got.

[Host 1]

We're stuck with him.

[Brady]

No matter what happens to him, he's the most successful one we made. And I'm sure Brett always when people ask, do you have any brothers or sisters? Nah, they stopped when they made me because it couldn't get better every time. Only kids say that because they realize they still made Even you have a bit of a sibling rivalry for your unborn brothers and sisters. They didn't want another one after they had me. Why bother?

[Brady's Sister]

Would have buried them.

[Brady]

Yeah, it's a good. It's a good joke to tell because you tell people who have siblings, like, yeah, I mean, my parents quit at one because why would you go on after this? It's my joke too. My parents had that test baby and they said, we can do better than this. And then they had me. And they were right. I've always. I've always tried to petition my parents that if I ever got sick. Sick to use the harvest child they had first for parts. Like, if I ever need organs and stuff, we've got a donor. They've had her first. She's not nearly as good as me. We'll just dip into that and I'll get livers and hearts and lungs and stuff off of Her. A harvest baby like Brady would be to his sister.

[Brady's Sister]

I can. For both. There's enough to go around. For both.

[Brady]

You have more organs than normal.

[Brady's Sister]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Oh, my God. I didn't know you were doubled down on organs. This changes everything.

[Brady's Sister]

Cut them in half that big.

[Brady]

Bobby Hurley. Go win a championship. Quiet this nonsense. I'm tired of it. Congratulations to the Yukon Huskies and Dan Hurley. You know, Purdue's not saying, you know, we were on the floor last night with the champs. We were out there last night with the champs. They're not saying that. Which is essentially what you're saying about Bobby Hurley. Oh, he knows that guy. That's weak. Knowing a successful person isn't successful. That's it. Go be successful. Bobby Hurley. You're pissing us all over. I don't care about ASU basketball. It would be kind of neat if they did something. ASU needs to step it up in every direction. Every direction.

[Brady's Sister]

Mind boggling on football and basketball.

[Brady]

Doesn't make any sense at all. Not even a little bit. You've got 80,000 students. You've got the greatest. I mean, look around. And what their big mistake is they keep trying to recruit from California. Go to Alaska or cold places, Buffalo, and bring those kids over here in the middle of September, October, and go. This could be all you. This is the greatest place I've ever been in my life. Roll them out here in January and February. They're leaving Buffalo. They're leaving Alaska. Get those Samoans over here. How is Utah so convincing to Samoans? Change of pace, I suppose.

[Brady's Sister]

Washington, that whole.

[Brady]

Yeah, the. How do they do it? How do they talk someone from an island into living in Provo? How?

[Brady's Sister]

That is the Mecca out of that.

[Brady]

Whole state of Samoans and Mormons.

[Brady's Sister]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And they talk them into the religion. Think they talk him into everything. Either Samoans are real dumb or those Utah people are the best salesmen of all time. Because for ages it's been hula mula hula is the whole. The whole offensive line. The hula hula mula brothers are there and Takamushi, yala, hala. How are you doing this? You're Provo. They're dumb. We show them the mountains, they lose their minds. It's amazing, but I'm impressed. It's 6:22. Let's get it together. Brady's gonna call his sister and tell her to go F herself today. Sure.

[Brady's Sister]

Doing it right now.

[Brady]

Text her.

[Brady's Sister]

John, are you serious?

[Host 1]

You're telling me that Brady's sister doesn't wake up every morning Wishing she had a sauce empire.

[Brady's Sister]

Every morning.

[Brady]

Does he pat you on the head? Gosh, I hope that works out. I'm going on the yacht now.

[Frank]

I'd like to be on your yacht.

[Brady]

Maybe I'll give you an invite.

[Frank]

Bye. So proud of her. Look at her go on her yacht. Let me just untie this sandbag. Okay. Ahoy, Chips Ahoy.

[Brady]

A little kicking on that. But I do like what you said. I'm more on your team than you think. She blew her way to the top, and you said so, not me. And that was pretty awesome. That was a pretty awesome little gag you threw there. I know you don't like saying that or hearing it, but that's what you said, Brett. But she did 10 out of 10. Pretty much, yeah. Thank you very much.

[Brady's Sister]

She did.

[Brady]

Oh, good Lord. You're disgusting.

[Brady's Sister]

Here we go.

[Brady]

She's a good wife, and she'll do things I'm not willing to do. We know what that means. We can read between the lines. You're not talking to Kirby right now. We get the nuance.

[Frank]

She was a good wife. Did some things I could not do.

[Brady]

All right, we know what that is. Blowchubs and butt stuff. We know what you're talking about. Glug, glug. All good women do it. You're basically saying that if this gets.

[Frank]

Back to her, she's gonna beat me, maybe cut me out of her again.

[Brady]

It's out of control now, 98. Okay, you PD.