08-19-25 - Megan Scheduled Her Colonoscopy Today Making John Think Women Like Seeing The Doctor For No Reason - Wondering If People Really Are Offended By The Cleveland Indians Name And Logo

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness (98KUPD) – Episode Summary

Date: August 19, 2025

Episode: Megan Scheduled Her Colonoscopy Today Making John Think Women Like Seeing The Doctor For No Reason - Wondering If People Really Are Offended By The Cleveland Indians Name And Logo

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Overview

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness is a typically irreverent and wide-ranging conversation led by John Holmberg and his crew (Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo). The episode blends crude humor and social observation as John riffs on why women seem to enjoy going to the doctor, the cultural meaning (and supposed offensiveness) of the Cleveland Indians name and mascot, and recent rebranding decisions in media. The tone is unfiltered, observational, and playfully provocative.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Women and Doctor Visits: The “Doctor Play” Theory

[00:45–18:15]

• John brings up that Megan (his significant other) scheduled her own colonoscopy, seeming to enjoy the anticipation, which sparks his theory that women love going to the doctor "for no reason."
• Holmberg muses that this attitude is rooted in childhood: “Playing doctor as a kid starts off the women's simple brains and mushes them into these people who can't get enough of going. So she's going. If you ever told me, like, yeah, we'll just take a look around in your anus for a while … hard no.” (B, [03:43])
• He contrasts men and women’s attitudes:
  • Men avoid the doctor unless something is clearly wrong.
  • Women, in his view, treat medical appointments as almost recreational.
  • Notable Quote: “Dudes go to the doctor when something hurts. Women go just for fun. For fun.” (B, [06:56])
• The crew jokes about role-play and childhood experiences of “playing doctor,” often veering into crass territory.
  • John's anecdote about being introduced to “playing doctor” by his cousin is used to suggest a lifelong difference in attitudes toward the medical world.

2. Probing Humor and Medical Anxiety

[04:50–15:20]

• John claims that men are pressured by “Big Pharma” and masculine-themed advertising into getting uncomfortable prostate exams.
  • Notable Quote: “Be a man, David. Be a man, David. Get in there and have somebody dig around in your butt. That’s the opposite of being a man.” (B, [06:03])
• He describes his own avoidance of unnecessary medical checks, sharing stories about Megan pushing him to get moles checked, which his doctor dismissed.
  • Megan’s response: “You need to go get checked more often.” (D, [17:31])
  • John’s retort: “You’re just gonna keep sending me to doctors until one of them says I’m dying.” (B, [17:19])
• General skepticism about “wellness specialists” and the growth of wellness culture.
  • Notable Quote: “If you could go to Sprouts to fix what's wrong, you didn't go to a doctor.” (B, [13:51])

3. The Cleveland Indians Name and the Notion of Offense

[24:15–32:00]

• John observes a high number of Native Americans at the Diamondbacks game wearing Cleveland Indians gear, despite the team's name change to the “Guardians.”
  • Notable Quote: “They were never mad about the name. They loved that team. And they had Guardians gear.” (B, [24:24])
  • “It was never offensive. The Indians thing was never offensive to anyone. And if it was, you were just sensitive.” (B, [26:46])
• Discussion about American sports team names:
  • The old Indians mascot “Chief Wahoo” and its depiction.
  • Holmberg and the crew question why, if the name was so offensive, old Indians gear is still allowed in stadiums.
  • Notable Quote: “Wouldn’t they ban the old Indians gear if it was so egregious? … If it was that egregious and that offensive, right? Nothing but Indians gear going in. Tons of it.” (B, [25:24])
  • Comparison to hypothetical team names with actual racial slurs to push the point about the perceived level of offense.
• They conclude that the name change was driven more by pressure from white women than the Native American community itself.
  • “I don't think we should be mad at Native Americans. I don't think they're the ones who tried to change the name ever… Always the culprit. White women. That's always the culprit.” (B, [32:04])

4. Baseball Nostalgia and Generational Gaps

[18:10–24:15]

• John recounts sitting next to an old baseball coach at the Diamondbacks game—a man who embodies the old-school, hard-nosed, “chewing and spitting” persona of classic baseball coaches.
• The coach laments how attitudes have shifted:
  • “These kids, you can't yell at them. They start weeping. The next thing you know you're talking to a dad.” (Coach story via B, [20:55])
• Threads on the sentimental attachment to baseball traditions and how new generations handle criticism and celebration differently.

5. Media Rebranding: MSNBC's Shift to “MsNow”

[33:13–38:35]

• The group discusses media companies' penchant for rebranding without changing the actual product, mocking HBO Max becoming Max, and now MSNBC becoming “MsNow.”
  • Notable Quote: “MSNBC in a couple months will be known as MsNow. … You want to talk about a group of people alienating men now it's the Ms. Now station.” (B, [33:13])
  • And with the logo: “All I see is PMS now.” (Email from Joanna read by B, [38:31])
• They find humor (and some annoyance) in how media companies don't foresee the unintended implications of their rebrands.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On women and doctors:
  “Women love going to the doctor. They can't get enough of it, most of them. And I have to think it's from playing doctor as a kid… It's this deal to go to the doctor all the time starts as a child…”
  — John Holmberg, [02:40]

• On men and medical exams:
  “I'm the anti Luigi Mangione. I'm getting that CEO a few more dollars in his pocket because I'm not spending it with any doctors probing around in my anus.”
  — John Holmberg, [06:13]

• On the Indians gear at the stadium:
  “A vast majority of people I saw going in the gate were Native American. They were never mad about the name. They loved that team.”
  — John Holmberg, [24:24]

• On the Chief Wahoo logo:
  “Wahoo is the smiling, happiest Indian I've ever seen in my life. He's not a warring Indian…”
  — John Holmberg, [30:28]

• On white women leading the charge for name changes:
  “Blame the… Always the culprit. White women. That's always the culprit. White women did this. They weaponized it.”
  — John Holmberg, [32:02]

• On the new MSNBC rebrand:
  “MSNBC in a couple months will be known as MsNow. … It’s the WNBA of news.”
  — John Holmberg, [33:13]
  (And the audience email: “Now I'm never not going to see PMS now.” — [38:31])

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Quick Reference: Timestamps for Major Segments

• Women’s Doctor Visit Theory / Colonoscopy Anecdote: [00:45–13:51]
• Probing/Medical Humor, Wellness Culture: [04:50–15:20]
• Baseball Nostalgia and Old-School Coaching: [18:10–24:15]
• Cleveland Indians/Guardians Name Debate: [24:15–32:00]
• Media Rebranding (MSNBC / MsNow Discussion): [33:13–38:35]

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Summary

This HMS episode features John Holmberg’s unfiltered meditations on gender and medicine, nostalgia for “old school” sports, and skepticism toward cultural trends and media rebranding. The primary throughline is a wry, absurdist (and sometimes edgy) skepticism at modern sensibilities—whether it’s attitudes about health, cultural appropriation, or what counts as offensive. The show is peppered with self-aware jokes, plenty of banter, and memorable takes that keep the dialogue quick, contentious, and funny.

Listeners can expect boundary-pushing humor and insight into both Holmberg’s personal life and larger cultural conflicts—always delivered with the show's signature irreverence.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

It's John Holmberg here for the amazing people at the Core Institute. A very close friend of mine had his knee surgery at the Core. He's not going to be back on the court immediately, but in a few months time he will be. He's got some rehab in front of him and that's all you need to worry about. Get to work and get feeling better. Get rid of the pain you've been living with the Core Institute celebrating 20 years because they've been changing people's lives for 20 years and you don't last that long unless you're great. Stop living with your pain and say yes to the things you love to do again. Go to the core institute.com humbug's morning sickness. You've been deceived by an agent of Satan himself. He's evil. Sitting right here. Come on. No, no, he's not evil. He's just a bit rude. 98. Good morning everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Tuesday. It's 5:45, the morning sickness. My name's John Holmberg. Hi, how are you? There's Brady, there's Brett Fastly. Toledo's around here somewhere. Let's get her going. Start this glorious day off, you know, ready to go. Quick shout out to Megan who has to go get her butthole probe by a doctor this morning. Not has to, is choosing to. This is for no reason whatsoever. And you think about it with broads. No reason. Yeah. This, I thought about this last.

[A]

You just do it then.

[B]

That's what I thought. Yeah, this, this is. There's a. I've come up with a look, you know, I have some takes every once in a while on things. They come, they go. Usually they're fairly odd. My brain works in a mysterious way, even for me sometimes. This one. You know my theory on fairy tales that if you have a daughter don't read her fairy tale. They're. They always end with the guy is going to cover you for the rest of your life, right. And you're going to have this, this amazing moment where you get swept off your feet by a per. There's a perfect one out there for you. And when he's not perfect, they're disappointed. And that starts because at 4 years old they're indoctrinated into believing that somewhere out there is the glass prince charm. Yeah. Prince Charming exists and, and he's perfect. And then they're just inevitably disappointed. Playing doctor is my new theory. Now this thing that Meg's doing, I think is, you know, it's basically like just. It's a discovery, Discovery mission. Yeah. She's got to get her prostate. Move her balls out of the way, Check her prostate. But. And, like, excited about it, like, happy to go. Like, wanting. Now I say, let's probe back there for the last 20 years. And it's just like, ah, yuck. It's disgusting. What's wrong with you? However, if you were to play doctor, have the lab coat, the thing on your head, the stethoscope around you, there's a chance that role playing, they'd let you do that, which is what I think. And this is. This goes. This is statistically accurate. Women love going to the doctor. They can't get enough of it, most of them. And I have to think it's from playing doctor as a kid and doing that, and then it turns into like, kind of a sexy thing with, like, role play, doctor play. It's this deal to go to the doctor all the time starts as a child because chicks, at least the ones I knew when they were little kids, like, girls like, oh, that was the old joke. Your parents. Are you two playing doctor? You know, the little weird examinations and stuff like that when you're in your room and junior high and you're like, ooh, play doctor. They like the idea of playing doctor who, which starts them on this path of doctors are fun. Kind of a fun thing. Dudes never go to the doctor because girls don't want to explore us or play that game. We will gladly dress up as the thing. Playing doctor as a kid starts off the women's simple brains and mushes them into these people who can't get enough of going. So she's going. If you ever told me, like, yeah, we'll just take a look around in your anus for a while and see if you've got food allergies or whatever the hell she's going for. It's. It's a. It's a hard no. It's like, no. I felt figured out for myself without you digging around in there. Nope. Had to have, like, forcible diarrhea all day yesterday to clean the system. Which, by the way, if I'd suggest that once you met a musil up, clean that tank and let's get to work on that thing. It's like, I'm a pervert. I'm a weirdo when it comes to trying to find something wrong with It. Let's clean that thing out. Let's see what's in there. I could tell you if anything's wrong with it. One simple exam. It's either gonna feel great or it's gonna hurt like crazy. And if it hurts like crazy, I'm doing something a little rough or you've got problems back there. It's time for a doctor's visit.

[A]

You already got the Hawkeye impersonation down. I mean, this thing would work out perfect.

[B]

I could do a mash reenactment.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Come on, Margaret. Let's go back to the room there. You and I in the tent.

[C]

They'd feel comfortable.

[B]

Frank, grab the camera. I'm gonna bang Margaret in the bottom. It's an exam, Frank. Yeah. I don't understand. Like that. What do you. You know the question? Why are you doing this?

[D]

It's part of my health.

[B]

Doctors wanting to look. Somebody suggested this. And you said thumbs up. That's a hard no. Unless you're looking for, like, my doctor thinks I have horrible. Something horrible going on back there. Nothing's wrong. They go to the doctor when nothing's wrong. Can you imagine such a thing? I mean, Brady went to the doctor three or four because, you know, things have gone wrong in the past with kidney stones. The doctor's like, you should probably come in here and check this out once a year. Good thing he did it. But at the same time, it's not like you're going every four or five months because you want to see. They love going to the doctor when nothing's wrong. It's insanity. So.

[C]

But that, you know, it kicks in, like, for a guy, you know, you're.

[B]

Told when you hit 50, you get one look under the hood. Right. But it's not necessary. It's suggested. I'm with my conspiratorial friend Dave Nash on that one. That's just Big pharma trying to take a couple bucks out of your pocket for no reason. Most of us don't have prostate cancer, but they want everybody to go pay for an exam. Well, your insurance will cover it. Yeah, yeah, the insurance thing, that's going great. I'm saving the insurance company a couple bucks. How about that? I'm the anti Luigi Mangione. I'm getting that CEO a few more dollars in his pocket because I'm not spending it with any doctors probing around in my anus. Notice they always go to, like, athletes for those commercials, too, to make you feel like less of a man. If there's a football player, it's like, put the gown on. Remember, Wolfley, put the gown on, be a man. Get your asshole ruined. Like, wait a second. One of those doesn't sound like the proper way to end that sentence. Be a man, David. Be a man, David. Get in there and have somebody dig around in your butt. That's the opposite of being a man. So, yeah, you can go get examinations and things like that. I highly recommend you get checked. But not all of you. If you don't want to, you don't have to. Dudes go to the doctor when something hurts. Women go just for fun. For fun. She's going for fun. She's gone to the doctor 700 times more than me in the last, I don't know, 10 years. I'm not kidding. It's at least. And I've been. I've been through surgeries and I have not been to the doctor as much as her.

[C]

See something, do something. That's what it is.

[B]

There's nothing to say, this hurts, go to the doctor. I agree with you. If something hurts, nothing hurts.

[C]

No, but I'm just saying that's their.

[B]

No, it isn't. It's beyond that. Nothing hurts. If she said, ouch, this hurts, go to the doctor, I'm for it. I'm just gonna go to the doctor. Is anything wrong? I don't think so. I just think he needs to probe around in there and find something. They love it. They love it. Absolutely crazy about it. So her ass is like, being taken care of. You probably take a look at Mathias ass every once in a while. Get a flashlight, make sure everything's all right. We wouldn't be alive.

[A]

Because I care, that's why. You're goddamn right.

[B]

From the heart. When we want to be in there, we want to feel if it was different from the last bir much. It's an annual exam, really.

[C]

She gets a new pen light every.

[B]

Year for the way.

[A]

You're welcome, Mathias.

[B]

Right. And your birthday just passed. And I'm hoping her ass is acceptable and then lasts again until next August 7th. I think that's a glorious thing. We as men are willing to give you that anal exam every birthday. Our birthday, not yours. Unless you're up for it. Sometimes on Jesus's birthday, that's my favorite thing. Jesus's birthday. Anal gifts. Nothing says happy birthday, Lord, quite like a woman who's like, okay, go ahead, but be slow. This one's for you, Christ. And then Jesus just palms his head with that. And you hear from the hole in his hand anyway, so good luck. To her. She's. I got text. I went to the baseball game last night and she was at home with her. Her self inflicted diarrhea and she's tagged. I'm like, that's enough of that.

[C]

I'm not doing the cleansing.

[B]

I don't know. Whatever it is, cleanse it. Just clean it out.

[A]

State the H H ranch too.

[B]

I'm not going home for that. Damn right. You're damn right. What you got horrible poop thing you forced upon yourself in the house.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. See you tomorrow. Peace out. When does that end?

[D]

I don't know. Hopefully tomorrow at like noon.

[B]

See you at 1.

[D]

What if I need you?

[B]

For what? What in the world would you ever need me for in this situation?

[D]

I don't know. What if things go wrong and you.

[B]

Need to call an ambulance because there's nothing I can do. If your ass breaks, I am. If I'm not qualified to examine it when it's healthy, I'm certainly not qualified to fix it when it's busted. It's. I'm not a plumber. I can rattle the flusher a little. If that doesn't work, we got to call a guy. They love going to the doctor. You got an email says, john, I agree. Women love playing. Let's fake examine this. Let's fake examine that. Signed, Dr. Larry Nassar. Now that is not a defense. Dr. Nassar, he loved those fake exams. Oh, I got another one. Oh, John, isn't it amazing how many fake exams you can give people? They just line up for it. Signed, the entire Ohio state medical team. Yeah. Okay. We get what you guys are up to. We know. But it is staff. My theory on it is, though, it's coming from the idea of when they say play doctors. Because I know my cousin Kelly was a girl and she introduced me to playing doctor when we were little kids. She was a freak. And she and my friend Mark Cassius, who lived across the street, and she would go, let's go in the closet and play doctor. We didn't know what that was. We were like four.

[C]

Do you think kids still do that?

[B]

I don't know. We did it. Nobody. Like our parents weren't understanding playing doctor. But she would go into this, all right, what seems to be the problem? Where does it hurt? And then she would, like, touch it. Does it hurt here? And she just wanted to see pee pees. She was a freak. And we stood in the closet. Me and. I'll never forget this. Me and Marquette, we called it the buddy hole. We'll get in the buddy hole. Because that's where buddies go to do stuff. That your cousin's a freak. We didn't know what freaks were, but we had two, four, five year old directions, you know, sitting there, what's going on down there? And she would just tap at it, and then we'd leave the closet. And, like, that was. That was enough to want to do that again. I think. I think that was okay. And then she focused in on Mark, because I think we both knew this ain't right. We're cousins. Like, I don't think I'm supposed to be naked with you, and I wasn't. But her and Mark would go in that closet pretty much all the time. She lived right behind us. Mark lived right across the street. They'd meet at our house, and it would always be this weird thing, like, right in the middle of another game. You guys want to play doctor? Yeah. And her pants would come right off. Oh, yeah, we want to play that. That seems like something I want to do.

[C]

Yeah, definitely.

[B]

Yeah. Even that girl who I drew the pubes on for told that story again yesterday. The one she always said, it looks like you need an exam. Like, she would always play doctor in the oleanders next to the crazy old lady's house that we lived. That lived between us. And we go up against the wall, and she'd. She's like, I need an exam. And then she'd show me. These hurt. Like, oh, what do I do? I can't. I don't know, give them an exam. And I just, like, bad at them and knock them around like a cat with a yarn. But it's a thing. So they love doctors. And that's the thing. So if you're a lady and you're.

[D]

Like, I don't have anything wrong, but I have a doctor's appointment on Thursday.

[B]

I have a wellness specialist. You think men started wellness specialists? Do you think men started wellness days at work? Come on.

[C]

I can make how much money I.

[B]

Can do not doing it. Do I have to go to school to be a doctor? Nope. What do I have to do? I don't know. Go on the Internet and read WebMD to some crazy woman? It's gonna give you 85 bucks every time she walks in the door about.

[D]

I have this little tiny spot in my hand.

[B]

I'm not. It's a freckle. But let's just feed that Holmberg's morning sickness.

[A]

And it's like a life coach.

[B]

It kind of. Well. Well, a lot of those wellness. Those wellness physicians like They're. Come on.

[A]

They turn their business card over and it's life coach.

[B]

Yeah, it's. It's a. It's one of those things.

[C]

Life coach with supplements.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And you can go over to Sprouts and pick up whatever they've got. That's. That's not a doctor. If you could go to Sprouts to fix what's wrong, you didn't go to a doctor. And I know there's people that email and go, the big pharma is going to get this and they always want you to. And a wellness specialist is like the organic aisle at Safeway. The floors are wood. The food isn't organic. It's the same stuff. It's just in a more expensive wooden box or like Kashi or whatever crap you're gonna. It isn't doing any. It's just as processed as all the rest of the crap. Yeah, it's an easy fool. There are some guys out there who are like, I can't wait. Gotta get to that. My friend Mark used to go to the doctor, get probed once every two, three days. Just he was so stressed out and he thought maybe helped him with his.

[A]

Stress, maybe every finger in the butt.

[B]

Well, I told him, I'm like, why don't you get that wife of yours to do that? She can throw it around in there. You need to go to the doctor. I don't know. There's something really bad going on back there. And I'm like, well, isn't she. Doesn't she care? Like, you have to go. You have to spend 85 bucks every time. Yeah. And he was going there quite a bit. And then I just. Then I realized midway through, I'm like, oh, he just likes it.

[A]

Matthew kind of explains it over on the.

[B]

Oh, yeah, it says it's a freebie to let a stranger put their finger in your butt, John. It is a freebie to have that done. And, boy, is that not everybody's dream. Sure would like someone whose name I don't know to finger me today. But they go to.

[C]

The worst would be the one time you decide to go and they find something.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's why I don't go. It's the reason I'm not going. You're not probing my ass for fear you'll find something. I feel fine the second you tell me I've got something brewing back there. And again, I don't fear the reaper, as Blue Extra Cult taught me, I don't care. And it's one of Those things, like, if you find something, then I gotta live my life with your finger in my ass every day until we figure that out. If it hurts, I'll go. If I'm at the doctor for something else. And he's like, you want me to check back there? And I'm like, is that a good idea? Is that part of this? And he's like, let's just get it out of the way. I went to a physical. Oh, Megan got so upset. I went to a physical a few years ago, and the doctor and I are looking, and. And she had called ahead of time to give this guy a laundry list of things he needed to look at, because suddenly Dr. Megan had, like, a list of things she was concerned about.

[D]

He's got moles on his back. I'm worried about.

[B]

Doctor's looking at me, and I'm looking at him. I got a pair of shorts and a T shirt on. And he goes, you take your pants down, and I'm just. Stand here in your underwear. And I'm like, ah, that'd be great if I was wearing underwear. Sort of. Kind of already am in underwear, I guess, if you want to look at it that way, I just leave those on. And he gives me a couple of taps. He goes, you seem to be in pretty good shape. And I'm like, thanks. And he goes, take a look at some of these moles. And I got the vibe immediately, like, that he was told by someone else he's looking. He goes, none of these are concerning at all. My gosh, he's crazy. And he goes, yeah. He goes, I see this. And then he goes, at the time, I think I was, like, 47 or 48. And he goes, probably due for a. Do you want me to check? And I'm like, no. And he goes, good. I don't want to do it either. And I'm like, okay. So I went home and I told Megan. I'm like, dude was the best doctor I've ever been around. He's like, he realized I'm in good shape. He looked at me. The moles were no concern at all.

[D]

How are those moles no concern? You need to go to another one.

[B]

I'm like, you're just gonna keep sending me to doctors until one of them says I'm dying. The doctor that I was sent to said everything was fine, and that means everything's fine.

[D]

You need to go get checked more often.

[B]

Why? I don't get checked that much. And the last doctor told me I'm aces. Besides that, every time A woman goes to a gynecologist, you find out whether there's something wrong with you or not. That's true. And that's been going on for years. You know, you don't have any STDs. If she comes back clean. That's an old college trick.

[A]

Double down.

[B]

Yep. Why do I have to spend that money? You have to go to that thing.

[D]

Gotta go to the gynecologist.

[B]

Is something wrong?

[D]

Nope. My annual exam.

[B]

You're fine.

[D]

They found something.

[B]

Oh, shock. Aw, surprise. You have to go back?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Huh? Huh? Multiple visits. Huh? You like that? And they do. Boy, I'd rather go in and got my ass probed than watch Diamondbacks baseball. Good thing I was with fun people. I got to hang out with a coach for. He coached at Scottsdale Community College. He was Phoenix College. Coach, coach. His first name is Marty, and he was sitting next to me at the ball game and we talked baseball, old fashioned style. It was like Pops from the Natural was next to me.

[A]

Oh, nice.

[B]

It was awesome. He's. I think he says it was mid-60s and he's just. These kids today. It was like an amalgamation of every awesome baseball coach you've ever seen on a movie or in real life, just all jammed into one to the point where after we're talking for a little bit, reaches into his pocket, pulls out some dip and throws it and just starts spitting on the ground. He doesn't even have a spitter in his hand. Starts throwing hawkers down there right at our feet, like you're in the dugout, tell you what. And not one of them gives a about baseball, that's for sure. Just there for the free ride. I'm like, yes. This guy's off. He had my day. Zach Gallon. Got a couple of guys just put the wood on the bat or the bat on the ball. Pretty strong for a couple straight. And he goes, I used to love that. And he said, never from the dugout would I do it. But it was pretty much drilled into the kids that if a guy gets two, three good pieces of wood on that ball, next batter's getting one in his rib cage. And I'm like, that's when baseball was amazing. And he goes, that's what I think. Said these kids today, I tell them, you know, quit celebrating your birthday. Every time you do a goddamn thing, you get a hit. And everybody's dancing and throwing their hats in the air and sunflower seeds. So meanwhile, so I'm sitting there, I'm looking at the picture, give him a little nod. We're putting one of that guy's ribs next time he dances like that. I'm like, yeah. But he goes, they don't understand that now. And I'm like, I want you to coach me through life for however much longer you've got left.

[A]

Coach for Major League.

[B]

No more. This old lady. It was that. It was that. Later Ricky. It was that guy. Plus Pops from the Natural, plus every coach you've ever seen in a movie, I'm sitting next to him. He goes, 40 years. And I said, he's getting out of the game. And I said, you're done, huh? And he said, yep. He goes, I got some stuff going on, all right. Yeah. And you're old enough to. And I said, I thought you were going to tell me. It's because the. You finally had. Had it with those little pricks. There's an element of that, too. These kids, you can't yell at them. They start weeping. The next thing you know, you're talking to a dad. I'm like, this is great. You got some mother standing there and why'd you yell at my son? He was doing the best he could. I think he was doing the best he could. I'm like, I love this guy right here, whoever this is. And then at the end, he goes, he shook my hand. He goes, you seem like one hell of a guy. Someday you're going to be on my patio eating barbecue. And I'm like, oh, man. And you're an oracle, because that's probably true. And he came with a guy, a friend of ours named Tom Sizer. And Tom's sitting next to me, and he goes. And he said it a couple times, which, really, there's a. There's a boosting element of ego. It comes with that. When he turns to me, he says, you do seem like one heck of a nice fella. And I'm like, thanks. He goes, gotta. I gotta tell you that there is a. There's a stain on you. There's a blemish in your life. Like, oh, yeah. He goes, yeah. I can't really put you in the upper echelon of decent people till I find out why the. You're friends with this asshole. And he points to Tom, and I'm like, you're. You're the. You are well written, sir. I don't know who your script writer is, but you are a great character. I've been hating him for 30 years. I'm like, me, about 26. Yeah, that's it. Him and his crazy wife, they. They're nuts. And I'm like, I agree completely. But he's got great seats. We're sitting on the dugout. Yeah, that's true. I use him for tickets, too. And I'm like, I think I'm. I'm going to marry this old man. I just wanted to go out and take grounders. That was it. He's one of those guys that just. Baseball leaps off of him. I'm going to go out and take some pepper. Yeah, let's get out there and do a little pepper. I'm going to throw some.

[C]

Game's going to get better.

[B]

Yeah, you can throw some heat. I'm going to fix your mechanics. Like, I'm never going to use this again. But I want you to coach me at baseball. I think it would be awesome. Old style. I remember Don Zimmer for the Cubs. Oh, 1983. Popeye sit there with a wad of chew and one cheek and the other one swollen just in sympathy of the. The cheek full of chew. Sitting on top of the fence at HOHO Cam. We're catching baseballs over the fence as the. The batting practice is going on. And Popeye turn and he'd look and he'd go round, say that we couldn't see who was hitting. And he'd tell all the kids, Ron say we go, oh, Ron say's hitting. Getting some home runs from Ron say, hey, that coming. And then the ball would fly. And then if he even saw us bang into each other now, get the off. He was angry. At any time we would like, scuffle over a ball and then he'd. And he'd turn. He had. He was on some weird perch that was 25ft up on this fence over.

[A]

His left shoulder, right at us.

[B]

Yeah, that's true. But he's spitting right at us, just spitting. Henry Cotto. Henry Cotto's not that good. But if he hits home run, I'll take his ball. He ain't coming. And it's just. And that's his job today, is to tell us not to get plunked by home run. We could see him. We couldn't see who was hitting, but we heard the bat knock it. And we'd look up like, where's the ball? And all of us. I got heads up. Oh, then he'd scream at us if we scrambled too fast. You guys end up breaking a leg. I'm not coming down there and helping Larry ball. Oh, Larry Boaz. We're not gonna see one home run. But he was just shouting it out. It was awesome. And that I sat next to Don Zimmer's guy last night. Oh, the best. But it was so much better than the product on the field. Man, oh, man, that is a morgue. Again. The Diamondbacks, it's sad. Like, that was. I walked up, it was 6:20, game starts at 6:40. I get up to the stadium, I'm like, is there a game or are we just watching it at a bar? Are they on the road? Where's the. And then I noticed there were an awful lot. Who?

[C]

The Generals playing today.

[B]

There were an awful lot of Guardians. I'm like, look at all the guard. I thought, maybe there's a Slayer concert. Like, there's a lot of guardians going in.

[A]

There'd have been more people there.

[B]

We're playing the Indians. A vast majority of people I saw going in the gate were Native American. They were never mad about the name. They loved that team. And they had Guardians gear. And the other thing I always point out to people who think it's like, oh, it was terrible. I'm like, wouldn't they ban the old Indians gear if it was so egregious? I know. If we had the New York N words for years and we had shirts on it. Or the Kansas City F words. Homo F words made famous by the blazing sadness. Now, if you tried to walk into an stadium with that shirt on, you'd be turned away, right? If you had the N word across your chest, because that used to be a team, people be like, no, no, no, no, no, no. Turn it around. If it's that egregious and that offensive, right? Nothing but Indians gear going in. Tons of it. I saw maybe five or six Guardian.

[A]

Shirts, so lots of wahoos.

[B]

Loads of Chief Wahoo. I saw old T shirts with wah. Like, they're hanging on to it. Marty, the guy sat next to the old baseball guys. I'm from Ohio and Cleveland's my team, and they'll always be the Indians. I don't even dabble with this Guardian crap. And I'm like, yeah, but I mean, if it was that offensive, they wouldn't let you in the stadium wearing a shirt that says Indians. So what? And Trump's right about this one. Like, just if. If. If the city says, let's bring it back, bring it back. It's not offending anyone. And I can tell you it's not offending anyone. Because in a heavy Native American community, they were loaded up and ready to get drunk already. Some of them were drunk, going in with their shirts off, holding Indians jerseys over them, like, man, that was fast. It's 6:40. Game has just started. And I see a few like, oh, my God, he's already Goneberg's morning sickness. And, you know, and then there's a lot of fat, hideously ugly people from Cleveland. I mean, you can spot them. They're white as paper and just ballooned up. Ohioans that are.

[D]

Drew Carey's.

[B]

My hero. Yeah, ma', am. You look just like him. That's pathetic. And not the skinny. Price is Right. Drew Carey. The TV show Drew Carey. But yeah. So it was never offensive. The Indians thing was never offensive to anyone. And if it was, you were just sensitive. They allow you to walk in there with Indians written across your chest. No one was offended at all. No one still is. No one says, take that shirt off. No one says a thing. It wasn't bad. They changed.

[C]

It was Ohio week for the.

[B]

Yeah, the Reds are coming. But I mean, you've never. You. I mean, you probably wouldn't notice being a white person, but I. If you saw as many Indians like, in Ohio, they don't. It's like, Indians probably love it. They like the. They liked the Washington Redskins. It's stickers all over their cars.

[A]

Blackhawks problems, Nobody black problems is.

[B]

Is a tribute to a single individual. The Redskins one is the only one. I'm like, okay, we've actually mentioned skin color, but still not so offensive that you can't wear old Redskin stuff and they don't turn you away at the stadium again. And it's a pretty good chance. We probably almost did have a team called the New York N. Words, because this country loved that word for eons. And then they'd be like, we can't do this anymore. And if you had that and you couldn't go in the stadium and they're equating it to, you know, a racial slur. Couldn't do it. Greg Olson, the tight end for the Bears and Panthers, and he was calling the game the other night for the Bears and. And Bills, and they're rerunning it and everything else. But he said. Talking about Brandon bean, the baseball GM, because he was talking baseball, friend. It was 31 to nothing. And he said something and he goes, yeah, the Beaner and I are. He said it on the air. And people are like, oh, that's a slur. But people whose last name is Bean, they get nicknamed Beanie or Beaner. It just happens. It's not. It's not. It's separate. We got to the point we're so sensitive that. That kid who. I don't like saying his name, but it starts with a K and it ends with the N word with an A on it. And he's playing college football, I think. And I ain't saying his name because just in case. But he, like, pronounces it like a Ice Cube song. Right.

[A]

I guess he's got the pass.

[B]

Yeah, but it's not. They're not including it in the video game. Oh, really? No, they won't put it in there because it's, like, not worth it. That's a guy's name and they won't even put it in there. They won't sell the jersey because they know people are. You know, the K is silent for a lot of them. But Indians. Yeah. Walk right in. No problem. It's not that offensive. Why did we change the name then, if you can still wear the jersey?

[A]

He's selling hats with his name on it.

[B]

Yeah, I know. He's selling on his merch with his own name. What's his name? Isaiah or something? Noah. Noah, that's right. Yeah, Noah. N word. You can't wear that hat anywhere. You have to explain it. You can't do it. His family is mean to the rest of the world for producing an athlete that has college skills. Noah. N word.

[C]

You're putting 49 bucks for that hat.

[B]

And there's Tom Brennaman. You have got to be kidding me. We can say that one just because it's his name. And I can't even goof around off the air and get caught. Boy, oh, boy.

[C]

And I thought the Indians originally was not so much the name as the character of the right logo, but Wahoo.

[B]

Is the smiling, happiest Indian I've ever seen in my life. He's not a warring Indian thing they.

[C]

Were trying to get rid of right away. Like, no more.

[A]

That's one of my favorite logos in baseball, to be honest. It was always. It's synonymous.

[B]

Great.

[A]

Major League, everything. You know? I mean, back to Bob, way back.

[B]

Can we watch Major League anymore? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. But if it was. Yeah. They wouldn't show it. It would say, I wonder if. I wonder if they do that thing, that weird woke thing before they show Major League like they do the wizard of Oz. That said, this movie is aged poorly. There's stuff in here that could be offensive. Racial overtones and stuff. I wonder. I bet you they do every time they show Major League, all the way up to Major League 4. When they were the Salt Lake City Bees, it was back to the minors, man. Yeah. I don't know. I don't understand any of it. But I gotta hand it to you natives. You guys were out in full force last night for the Guardians, and you wore a lot of Indians here, and that's the way it should be. Nobody was mad about that. Not at all. Yeah. Everybody knows about Noah N Word. He's got his own page. He's weird. Yeah. This guy says, are you trying to guilt. They're trying to guilt you out of everything pleasurable and defame and weaponize a huge beloved entity of a city named after your people. And I don't think we should be mad at Native Americans. I don't think they're the ones who tried to change the name ever. Blame the. Always the culprit. White women. That's always the culprit.

[A]

Blame whitey.

[B]

White women did this. They weaponized it. They threw it out there. And they're oblivious. They don't understand what they're doing. They changed the name of that because they thought they were helping a. And it's. It's the most offensive thing you can do. We have to help these poor natives. They don't know what they're doing without the help of us white women. And. And they get some husbands involved, like, you know, and they stand there with their heads down, like, yeah, I gotta. It's just a battle I'm not willing to fight at home. She's nuts about this.

[C]

Our Little League baseball.

[B]

The.

[C]

The team names were Indian tribes.

[B]

Absolutely.

[C]

Navajo, Paiute.

[B]

My first. My first neighborhood was Indian Heights in Lowell, Indiana. Navajo, Cherokee, arrowhead. Just Indian words where all the names of the streets and they had arrows all over. And I was like, this is great. I think even the street signs were arrows. Of course they were. Northwestern Indiana. There were Indians there at one point. They moved away. We honored them by saying, we haven't forgotten. Now white people live all over the place. Sorry about that. Yeah. But, yeah, white women. They ruin everything. Including. Oh, this is. Have you seen that? MSNBC is changing their name.

[C]

No.

[B]

Radio executives have gotten into television. Television. Radio executives are equally as dumb. And TV executives, when they see something failing, they don't know what to do. So a lot of times they'll change the name or rebrand. Rebrand. Right. Yeah. They're like, it's the same old product. It's like when I think Jesse Waters said it. It was a pretty good take on it.

[C]

Hbo.

[B]

HBO went to Just Max for no reason, thinking that there was somebody got a test, and then it Came back and like, it was dumb. So they changed it back to hbo. HBO is like. Like, that's the bigger of the two. So hbo, Max and then just hbo. They changed. MSNBC in a couple months will be known as MsNow. Ms. Now. They didn't see that when they plopped it up there. And Jesse Waters is like, it doesn't matter. They haven't changed any of the programming. So it's like when you break up with a girl and she cuts her hair and acts like she's a whole new her, but she's still the crazy. You left. I mean, it's still the same thing. Ms. Now is now. You want to talk about a group of people alienating men now it's the Ms. Now station. And they had like news outreach World Something is what the now stands for. And like Ms. Now, which is the now is the national organization for women. You put a Miss in front of it and now you're just. You're just a feminist operation. So it's Rachel Maddow on Ms. Now. It's going to be a terrible failure. But they didn't even see it. It's like when they did Katie kb and they thought all lives here. And they were super gay. And all I saw was alt lives here. And they didn't. And I pointed it out to them when the first billboards went up. I'm like, all lives. And I remember tripping. Don't. We didn't even see that.

[C]

They embraced it.

[B]

Of course. You. Of course. You're the one. Yeah, they did. And it's working out for them. They got. All the guys seem to love it. You've been down there. I had to go down there on Sunday. I came in here to do some stuff and I went down to that man, it's rainbow flags. And I haven't been down the hall in a long time. I went down there and looked. I'm like, geez, it glows. It is like. It is super duper gay.

[A]

Which is.

[B]

What do you expect? Fine. But see, to me, that alienates people. I don't want to put up like a only this group first kind of flag in here be wrong. Like, we just had the Mexican flag in here for no reason. People be like, what are you doing? Well, we really want to cater to the Mexican audience. You do? Sure. What about all the others?

[C]

Got numerous stations on that.

[B]

Oh, yeah? Well, they speak Spanish. That's different.

[C]

They're, for the most part, the only flag right. Right now in the market.

[B]

What do you mean?

[C]

The Mexicans no, 93. 3.

[B]

What do you mean, the only flag.

[C]

As far as saying that?

[B]

Well, yeah.

[C]

Embracing that.

[B]

Well, we don't know. Maybe. Maybe there's a whole. I heard flag, too. The L was silent Boy, I tell you. Don't dabble with that one. No, maybe. I don't know. I don't know if there's, like. I can imagine a couple of those country stations having a rainbow flag up there, thinking it's for Lucky Charms, because they're. But that's a difference, I guess.

[C]

There might be a couple other obviously personalities in the valley.

[B]

Oh, there's super gay guys all over radio. There's nothing. Yeah, there's nothing about that. That's but a radio. Oh, yeah, there's gays all over the place. Got that KCCP and KSLX and kz. KZ and the Mountain. You got KTAR loaded with homeless. Oh, man. Oh, wow. One more time. I know that broomhead grabs my balls. One more time, we're calling a lawyer. Anyway, let's go. And ladonna is beating up on Jim Sharp. And that's a hate crime. It's terrible. Anyway, so Miss now is coming your way. And I found that his.

[C]

When does that start?

[B]

I think in November. I don't remember the exact. But they were, like, trying to be excited about it. I saw a clip of it this morning, and I was laughing. I knew they did it yesterday when I read it, but I saw the clip of them doing the announcement, and it was Joe Scarborough from Morning Joe. Still around. Yeah, we're on the air. When? I didn't realize that either. And he's like, we're real excited about this. And then Ms. Now. And then they. And they split it. So the Ms. There's a big space between Ms. And now. And I'm like, my God, TV executives are as bad as radio executives. They did not see Ms. Now.

[A]

Was there a reason behind it?

[B]

Oh, we have a bigger.

[A]

What is their reason? I guess is what I should say.

[B]

Rebranding. Rebrand.

[C]

Maybe it gets more people checking them out.

[B]

It's called My Source. The Ms. Is my source. The now is news, Opinion World. And all I see is miss Now. Miss Now. All right, well, it's not for men. Turn it. It's the WNBA of news. Hilarious. And I guarantee you that somebody went Miss now. And then a regular TV exec went dope. We didn't see it. Like, how did you not see that? And with the flag in front of it. Joanna emails and says, some have observed that the logo in front of the Ms. Looks sort of like a picture. And now I'm never not going to see PMS now. And that's how I look at it again. Now that you've seen their little weird flag. Now it's PMS now.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Oh, that's good stuff. Anyway, nothing you can do.

[A]

Let's trip over ourselves just a little bit more.

[B]

Let's, let's. Well, they're not tripping over their own dick, that's for sure. I know what it is. The carpet has a little a bubble in it. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? 5, 8, 5, 9, 800. A good one and we'll scream it together. It's 98 KUPD.

[D]

Wake up.

[B]

It's not weird. It's pretty cool, actually. No membership fee. I have heard enough of this.