08-25-25 - North Carolina Man Dies After Falling Into Grand Canyon And Bret Has No Desire To See It Again BO

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Podcast: Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona
Episode Title: North Carolina Man Dies After Falling Into Grand Canyon And Bret Has No Desire To See It Again
Date: August 25, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Brett Vesely, Dick Toledo

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Episode Overview

The August 25, 2025, episode centers on recent news of a North Carolina man falling to his death at the Grand Canyon, sparking a lively and candid discussion among the crew about safety, rescue efforts, and their own ambivalent (and at times irreverent) outlook on the iconic Arizona landmark. Topics humorously spiral from the perils and absurdities of Grand Canyon tourism to modern attitudes about travel, with the crew debating whether wonders like the Canyon have become "obsolete" thanks to technology. Throughout, the show displays its signature blend of dark humor, local flavor, and unfiltered banter.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Grand Canyon Falls: How Often and Why (01:38–06:49)

• Brett quizzes the crew on how many people per year fall into the Grand Canyon, revealing the answer is about 10–15 deaths annually.
• John and Brett voice skepticism as to why so many people meet this fate, blaming lack of safety rails and suggesting it's a matter of “natural selection.”
• Rescue Efforts: The hosts express frustration over risky rescue missions for individuals who disregard safety, arguing perhaps bodies should be left where they fall rather than risking further lives:
  • “If you’re too dumb not to see the hole, you belong in the bottom of it.” – Brett (02:08)
  • “There needs to be signs everywhere... If you fall in the Grand Canyon, we're gonna leave you there.” – Brett (03:07)

Memorable Anecdote

• Brett recounts a nerve-wracking experience watching a woman posing for a photo dangerously close to the edge while strong gusts of wind threatened to push her in (04:36).
• He admits he got so anxious, he laid down on the ground out of fear for her.

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2. Tourism, Stupidity, and Local Attitudes (06:49–14:23)

• The group muses on the mix of tourists, social media influence, and everyday risk-taking that leads to accidents.
• Brett describes the rescue of animals (burros and horses), equating negligence with human error and the resultant attitude:
  • “If you dick around with a big, strange hole... the hole wins.” – Brady (07:42)
• Camelback Mountain and other local landmarks come up as comparable sites where people overestimate their abilities.

Memorable Moment

• John Holmberg reflects:
  • “It’s the biggest goddamn hole in the world. How are you getting on the edge of this thing?” (04:31)
• The hosts agree that often, people “don’t respect” nature until it’s too late, and locals can be jaded about risks visitors take.

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3. EMS Rescues & ‘Let Nature Have Them’ Philosophy (08:08–13:22)

• The crew relives stories of hikers needing rescue, sometimes in extreme weather, and the underlying resentment some locals feel about putting first responders at risk for tourists’ mistakes.
• Brett shares a story about calling in a rescue for hikers on Camelback Mountain during a monsoon—only to get roasted by a firefighter who thought they should have been left to their fate.
• The group jokes about “escorts” (ambassadors) hired to show visitors around and how many “rescues” are a result of questionable decision-making.

Notable Quote

• “Imagine the dudes up there at the north rim. All right, you got a kid from North Carolina fell in. We have to go get him. You know he’s dead. What’s the point?” – Brett (12:10)

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4. The Obsolescence of Natural Wonders in the Era of 4K (20:08–27:57)

• A strong thread develops on whether technology makes travel and “natural wonders” irrelevant for new generations.
• Brett and John lament that after seeing the Grand Canyon once, or seeing friends' photos and watching on a 4K TV, it seems unnecessary to revisit:
  • “I got a 4K TV at home. It has just as good a picture as me going out there with all…” – John (20:39)
  • “The Grand Canyon’s obsolete now. Samsung made it possible.” – John (22:19)
• They riff that people would rather see sites virtually or not at all, comparing the Grand Canyon to “screensavers,” and mock those who brag about seeing iconic places in person.
• The group pokes fun at the idea of “going for the food” (fondue in Switzerland, for example) over experiencing sights.

Highlight

• “Fill it up, put some water in it. Make it a pool. Do something good. … The Grand Canyon is now obsolete. Find something new to look at.” – Brett (22:31)

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5. Generational Differences: Locals vs. Tourists (19:42, 22:47–28:27)

• The hosts dissect why locals are often less impressed (or even annoyed) by the tourist hype around the Grand Canyon.
• John and Brett recall being dragged to the Canyon with visiting relatives and feeling underwhelmed, compared to the awe of first-timers.
• There’s some gentle teasing around travel “humblebrags”—Brady mentions viewing the Matterhorn from a Swiss chalet, prompting roast from Brett about not “earning” European vacations.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “If you're too dumb not to see the hole, you belong in the bottom of it.” – Brett, 02:08
• “If you dick around with a big, strange hole... the hole wins.” – Brady, 07:42
• “It's the biggest goddamn hole in the world. How are you getting on the edge of this thing?” – John, 04:31
• “The Grand Canyon’s obsolete now. Samsung made it possible.” – John, 22:19
• “Fill it up, put some water in it. Make it a pool. Do something good. … The Grand Canyon is now obsolete. Find something new to look at.” – Brett, 22:31

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Important Timestamps

| Time | Segment / Insight | |----------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:38 | How many people fall into the Grand Canyon annually? | | 02:08 | Attitudes toward rescue efforts for those who fall in | | 04:36 | Brett’s anxious Grand Canyon close-call story | | 06:49 | Animal rescues vs. human rescues and nature’s indifference | | 09:59 | EMS rescues on Camelback, story of calling for help during monsoon | | 12:10 | North Rim rescue attitudes and “let nature have them” philosophy | | 20:08 | Technology lessens the need to see natural wonders in person | | 22:19 | “Grand Canyon is obsolete now. Samsung made it possible.” | | 22:47 | Driving visitors up, locals’ jaded attitude toward the Canyon | | 25:12 | Humblebragging about seeing the Matterhorn in Switzerland | | 28:27 | Returning to the Canyon as an adult; shifting perspectives |

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Tone and Style

The episode is marked by irreverent, sardonic humor. The crew mixes genuine awe for nature with deadpan practicality and exasperation at tourists' carelessness. Underneath the jokes, there are pointed critiques of modern attitudes—toward safety, travel, and cultural marvels—that blend dry wit with a hint of local pride and weariness.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

This episode takes tragic news—another fatal fall at the Grand Canyon—and spins it into a roundtable of darkly comic commentary about human folly, the limits of rescue, the “obsolescence” of sightseeing in a digital age, and what locals really think about one of the country’s most legendary tourist attractions. From tales of model photo shoots gone wrong at the rim, to rants about EMS rescues, to a debate over whether a 4K TV beats the real thing, the episode skewers familiar Arizona experiences with humor and honesty. The takeaway? The canyon is as dangerous as ever, but maybe the real threat is that, for some, it just can’t compete with streaming in high definition.

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Transcript

[John Holmberg]

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[Brett]

There's more of the best of homework's morning sickness 98kupd and then yesterday I How many people? Quick quiz. How many people a year do you think fall in the Grand Canyon? What's the guess? I mean we how often do we hear about it?

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Yeah, I'll say 10.

[Brett]

You say 10.

[John Holmberg]

I say 2 because it doesn't.

[Brett]

Yeah, you don't hear about 10 to 15 is correct. We don't even hear about it anymore. Another one fell in yesterday. A guy from Carolina.

[John Holmberg]

I heard that one.

[Brett]

He dropped in and you don't hear about it as much. So I'm Reading about it, like, oh, that's terrible. But I got to hand it to the Grand Canyon. Not the actual nature version, but what we've done as far last time I was there, they haven't put fences up in a lot of that stuff. Like, nope. If you're too dumb not to see the hole, you belong in the bottom of it. And I also think that there's a certain aspect, because I watched some of the rescue of the guy who fell in yesterday, that we don't have to go get the guys that fall in. They stay. Because what they were putting those three rescue workers through to go get them is more dangerous than tripping and falling in. Like, I think of the 10 or 15 that fall in, nine of them are going after the three tourists that went in there. This thing is this cantilevered, angled pulley system. I mean, you're going to the canyon. Yeah. And you got to go find a realize, and you find a dude who's not near a trail. He's just kind of in this section of the Grand Canyon that's straight down, and these dudes just pop on, latch this thing into the side of it. It's mobile. And then they start trailing down there to go pick up a body, tug it back up, and I'm like, we either have to have a better system or just leave the body. If you fall in the Grand Canyon, there needs to be signs everywhere. Sorry about that. For your family and all. Enter at your own risk. If you leave the trail and start to dabble with the corner of the big hole and go in, man, we're gonna leave you there. I think that's. I think you deserve to be in it. Don't dick around with the canyon. That's what I'm saying.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Yeah. I wonder what the number is as far as that. You're saying about 10 to 15 people.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

And what classifies that? Like, if you fall 10ft into the Grand Canyon, does that.

[Brett]

Does it officially count as a breach? Yeah.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

And of the 10 or 15, is that. Is that dead? 10 to 15 dead, or.

[Brett]

That would be the only ones. The only ones we actually. Like if somebody fell in and then scrambled out, the one that I. I.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Think if that's 10 or 15. Wonder what the. The burrow count is.

[Brett]

Okay. 10 to 15 deaths a year.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, man.

[Brett]

So, yeah. So if there are people you're talking.

[John Holmberg]

You're falling in.

[Brett]

I mean, you're not. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

There's very rare falling 10ft.

[Brett]

You're bouncing on it. Yeah. You're not hitting It. But would that count? Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know.

[Brett]

I mean. I mean, how many of Eric Clapton's kids do we have a year that actually bounce off of an awning? And I mean, 10 to 15 deaths. And, yes, that would count as falling in the canyon, but a different category.

[John Holmberg]

I just don't get it.

[Brett]

It's.

[John Holmberg]

It's the biggest goddamn hole in the world. It's. How are you getting on the edge of this thing?

[Brett]

Tell this story. Every time I. I think about the canyon because I didn't have a quality experience with the beautiful Grand Canyon because of this woman who was gorgeous, and she put her toes on the edge of the thing and squatted like Johnny Bench while some guy took pictures of her. The wind was blowing really hard, and, I mean, she was on the fence. Butterflies. I laid down where I was because I couldn't. I was so afraid for her. I was. I was. From me to the window, like, what, seven feet to the window to her. And when I saw her toe up on the edge and that wind was whipping and at any time could have gusted and then squats down like Johnny Bench and turns her head, and a dude is, like, taking snapshots of her from a few feet away. She's modeling beautiful. And I got so uncomfortable for her that I laid down like, please get away. My friend Mike was with me. He's like, please don't do that. Please. It was. It was. You were juggling fire and knives, and it seemed so perilous that I was, like, unable to continue on. I was waiting to watch this woman fall in.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

She did it.

[Brett]

So we followed her and her amazing ass and her photographer around the Grand Cany. The second best view up there that day was the canyon. This chick was good. And another one that was doing some modeling, not as hot. So it was kind of funny to watch the supermodel and then the one who was like, yeah, it was 2016, so it was early days. Facebook, Instagram might have been around. We had some Twitter. She was trying to make some money on a horse side at the time we didn't know about. The other one was actually, like, on TV and magazines and things like that. Gorgeous. 10 to 15 people though a year, which means 10 to 15 times these rescue guys get calls and, like, God damn it. They don't want to break out that big tripod and drill it into the earth and then start risking their lives for a dead body. Leave it there. Part of the lure. You keep saying, nature, nature, nature. Well, there it is. Pop them in the earth and have them, you know, rot away. And the animals of the Grand Canyon will have a new feature, a new little something new on the menu today.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Tourists, they still have those burrows that deliver stuff down there.

[Brett]

Yeah, but that's a trail. If they fall off the trail, and those trails are dangerous. The one place that had the sick horses and, you know, because they're legitimate realists, that one tour group that got in trouble for a while because they were using sick horses, and the tourists started to say, this is wrong. These really starved horses. And then they drop dead on the trail. And they'd get three or four of those. I guess the people who live down in the bottom that have been felicing you for taking you.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Oh, yeah.

[Brett]

They were pushing the horses off the trail right down into the hole and letting them just tumble down. It's like, well, he's dead. What are we going to do? Pick a horse up? I feel the same way about the people. And again, the dude that fell in, it's tragedy. You know, it's a risk that he was taking, but he went off the trail a little bit, and he started dicking around with the hole. You know what happens when you dick around with a big, strange hole?

[Brady from HMS Crew]

The hole wins.

[Brett]

It can kill you. It's gonna mess you up. It'll either give you something forever, or it'll just flat kill you. And that's the thing that is.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

It's a way smaller scale. It's the same guys that jump down Camelback Mountain. On the way down, I'm bouldering.

[Brett]

Yeah. Like they're doing. Yeah. But again, we can get to them. The rescue workers just walk up and pick the body.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

I'm just saying you're eventually gonna lose.

[Brett]

You're gonna break an ankle. You'll be. But you're gonna live if you're. Most of the time, you're really not screwing around. Too bad. Camelback Mountain kills some serious work. I've done some dumb stuff on Camelback Mountain. Just walked off with a. With a rolled ankle. Like, I'm a pretty stupid person. I've run down Camelback once, and I'm like, that's the last time I'll ever do that. And the only reason why is because it gets slippery like the rocks. You know, if you bounce off sometimes you can't help. You hit that. That soft dirt. You're sliding. But it's. Yeah, it's a. This one says people fall in the Grand Canyon, John. Because people are inherently stupid. It's just that simple. I agree. And we Got to stop saying we're going to rescue the stupid foreign. Just leaving people here like me even. And I'm one of the ones that takes the risk riding my bike in the heat on the trails by myself. Come get me when the weather's nice. You guys don't need to do anything about that. There's no reason to get firefighters. And the reason I know they hate this is because I that one time 15 years ago when I saw people flashing lights on top of Camelback for my front patio and I'm like, that's like distress signals. That was. I felt like Batman. I'm like, does anybody else see this pouring rain, like just crushing monsoon and the lights are flashing at the very top. And I'm like, nobody should be up there right now because it's. This is one of those big storms. And the reason I was on my patio was enjoying the summer monsoon because it was such a big one sideways. And So I called 911 and felt like a hero and I bragged about it the next day on the show and got emails. I even actually waited and heard the fire trucks go by, got in the car, followed them up to Echo Canyon the thing and watched them get out. And they put night. These, oh I want one night costumes on that have lights inside the helmet. And they had these big suits.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Like an alien.

[Brett]

Yeah, some of those. Yeah, it was exactly like they were illuminating so they could see around them and they were all big like giant lit up dudes, like alien guys. And they start hiking up. It looked like a big suit though. And they start hiking up and I'm bragging and then I get an email the next, when I'm bragging the next morning the guy goes, that was you, you piece of. Just let them stay up there. They'd have been fine. They had to go hike in that misery of a wet trail all the way to the top to rescue two Asian tourists and some bottle girls that told them that they, you know, you can. I didn't know that until then. My ex wife actually her and her best friend who's no longer with us and I wish it was the other way around. They were hired for a little while by a company to be ambassadors. But then both of them started to look around and going, awful lot of hot ambassadors, don't you think? And most of the clientele were middle aged businessmen that were like, show me around. And they were just trying. You got it. I'm like, you know, you were, you were an escort. No, no, we were city ambassadors. We. They Would give us to, like, spring training players. I'm like, yeah, that's. You were an escort. You were a escort.

[John Holmberg]

They were giving you to the spring training players.

[Brett]

It only happened Sarah started to date one of the players for the brewers, and I dated his brother, who it was Jeff Jenkins. And that's the one that my ex wife gave the handy to because his penis was so big she wasn't willing to do it. And I'm like, well, that's exactly what a escort would have done. His jerk off, her client, he expected more. The reason he whipped it out is because he thought, well, somebody paid for this. So that's what those Chinese men did that were standing up on top of the. The thing with their ambassadors.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Took them up there.

[Brett]

They're like. And they were evidently in, like, suits. And the girls were like, we can get up there and see the whole city. Oh, very good. Very. We have sex on mountain. I can't understand you. Follow me. And so they.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

No problem.

[Brett]

Those are fine. Follow the hut girl all the way to top of mountain. Traditions say when a man from China hot girl on top of mountain, he become a citizen. I don't know what. But they drug him up there. And then these. And the fire guys were like. It was hilarious. Like, they were too. They were escorts. And they had drugged these Chinamen up there, and they just said, oh, here's rain. They didn't check the forecast, and it was pouring, but the firefighters told me they didn't even want to climb Camelback to rescue. Imagine the dudes up there at the north rim. All right, you got a kid from North Carolina fell in. We have to go get him. You know, he's dead. What's the point?

[Brady from HMS Crew]

They were passed out when they got off top of the Camelback mountain.

[Brett]

Dong dong, no, no, hikey dong. I need food.

[John Holmberg]

Where's my automobile?

[Brett]

Automobile? Mountain. Big mountain. So, yeah, I know the firefighters don't want to do the tougher jobs like that. That's miserable. Climbing in the Grand Canyon. But again, devil's advocate, you took a job as a firefighter in the Grand Canyon. So, you know, you're probably thinking to yourself, I got nothing to do here. This thing ain't lighting on fire. And what, maybe somebody rolls an ankle? I'll go tape that up. And then on the off chance that 10 to 15 times a year you got to break out, I don't think there's 10 to 15 rescues on Camelback a year. 10 to 15 deaths. And I guess. You know what, we need to close the Cadence. It's not for us. It's.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

They train more than there's actual oh, absolutely.

[Brett]

Yeah. They're running up and down the hills at night. They're too we're too dumb to have a beautiful. We're too dumb to have nice things. The canyon is too nice and we wreck it and we abuse it. So another guy tumbles in. But I was kind of shocked. I figured, like Brett, I was like, we hear about maybe two years, you'd think that people would have learned by now you're not going to make it. If you get too close and fall, it's pretty much the end of you. Holmberg's Morning Holberg Morning Sickness 28 KUPT It's Jon Holberg here from the Morning Sickness and it's time to about TV's Doug Hopkins of my home group and doughhopkins.com I tell you about the house down the street from me that has had a for sale sign in the yard for three months now. In fact, it's the fourth different sign. They've got a new realtor all the time. I do know this, though, they wouldn't be dealing with all this stress if they'd have just called TVs Doug Hopkins because he's more than a guy buying your house. He makes an offer for your house, cash. As is, you don't have to do anything. The deal is over. So all you got to do is start the process online at Doug hopkins.com or sing Hopkins 1-800-sale now.

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[John Holmberg]

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[Brett]

HMS podcast time again. It'll let you know where to go.

[John Holmberg]

For some great comedy in the Valley this week.

[Brett]

Well, just in case you haven't been.

[John Holmberg]

Paying attention or if you've been mia, we'll let you know that Frank Caliendo.

[Brett]

Is going to Be performing at the.

[John Holmberg]

Desert Ridge Improv this Friday and Saturday night. So tune in.

[Brett]

Frank's going to be in with the guys all week long. And just maybe we'll have tickets for you to go catch Frank live up north at Desert Ridge for the complete lineups.

[John Holmberg]

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[Brett]

And tempeimprov.com Holmberg's Morning Sickness. Then I started to wonder how many of them were suicide.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

You know, probably won't throw that stat out.

[Brett]

Yeah, because they don't want to encourage that. Like, the Golden Gate Bridge is nothing but suicides to the point where they put a net out the side of it. Brooklyn Bridge, the Verrazano Bridge in New York. Those are. Well, Brett, The Verrazano Bridge, yes, they are suicides. I believe you, Brett. Let's not say. Usually. Yeah, assisted suicide. There's a lot of Kovorki Kanis out there that are tossing. Oh, this guy tried to save his life. He thought he could fly. I wanted to see that. And then it turns out, no, he's not a good flyer at all. So.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, since Saturday Night Fever, I mean, you know, I jumped.

[Brett]

Look, he had some sort of chronic Lou Gehrel's disease or something like that, so I helped him out. I. He didn't. You know, we don't have no machines, so Verizano will do. But, yeah, they're. They're leaping off. Those bridges are, like, just leaping off of bridges.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

So we were taking selfies.

[Brett]

I mean, yeah, you know, we were doing it for instant grams, you know, and. Yeah. Oops. Oops. He slipped banana peel or something. You're welcome. Yeah, I'm surprised you don't see more guys in the striped suits up there at the canyon. Isn't this beautiful? Just whacking guys in the back. Quit hitting my back so hard. I'm awfully close to the edge and a little close. So you can't. You can't appreciate the grandeur of the entire. Look at that. You should see it from the bottom. Okay, here you go.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Let's go get some dinner, doll.

[Brett]

10 to 15 suicide or deaths. How many are suicide and vultures? Kelly Turley. You're right. Vultures gotta eat, too. Leave it there. There should be a sign that says fall in the canyon. We ain't coming for you unless we can hear you screaming. If you're screaming, then we're like, ah, he's alive. Let's go sit. But even then, if you fall in the canyon and you're still alive. Do you want to come out? Because you're going to be. You're going to the whole time.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Another question can ask. You want us to come down?

[Brett]

You want us to come down? No. Can you feel your legs? No. All right. We're not coming down there because in a couple weeks they will of all need the Grand Canyon. And I'll be back next year. And that's the last thing we want is that local news story. They'll make Troy Hayden now because he's new at channel 12, roll up there and go, seven years ago, this person fell in the Grand Canyon and now they're returning. Everybody's supposed to be all sad. Then he wheels up to the edge. They don't feel as red this time as I even did last time. Oh, great. So he's drinking out of straws. He's eating steak through a tube.

[John Holmberg]

I just want to see Troy go up there. Why were you so effing dumb? Why were you standing by the edge?

[Brett]

You do realize it. This line right here is about it. What were you thinking? They just thought one more step and I could see the bottom of the canyon. And you did, dumbass. One more step. You saw the bottom of the canyon.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Troy would probably go all out. I'm getting in the barrel. I want you to see what it.

[Brett]

Feels like inside the barrel that no one's ever rolled down the Grand Canyon. Next week on 12 News, I'm Troy Heaton. Then we'll explore my desire to roll down the canyon. It's dumb, but yeah. That Grand Canyon, it's no joke. It doesn't. It's not cushiony, but 10 to 15 and we don't talk about it. Somebody fall in now it's like another one fell in. So this kid that fell in yesterday, I guess he's special because by August we should have at least eight in the place in the bag now. Right. If 10 to 15 are going on average by August, probably have eight or seven or eight.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

You have to.

[Brett]

I haven't heard of one. Haven't heard of one. His first one all year yet.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

About two months after it starts getting a little.

[Brett]

Maybe around the holidays, people start leaping in. Oh, yeah, the 12, the other two. Yeah.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

I was just saying influencers. You got about two months left for some.

[Brett]

For the pictures. Beautiful boy. Those snow pictures, though, maybe it does ramp up around December.

[John Holmberg]

Well, yeah, because then you get all the idiots in from back. I don't think family. It's like I don't think you're allowed in.

[Brett]

Well, when it's really bad. But you can get up there when it's snow. My uncle went up there, and it was absolutely stunning. It's beautiful after a snow. But that, you know. Well, it's. If it's bad, no, you're not going.

[John Holmberg]

That's the worst, too. When you get people coming from out of town. Can we go to the Grand Canyon?

[Brett]

Oh, Christ. You realize how far away that goddamn hole is? It's amazing how many people have lived here their whole lives who haven't been here. It hasn't.

[John Holmberg]

It hasn't.

[Brett]

We're so spoiled.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

I spent very little time up there. I mean, I've gone up there.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Drove motorcycles up there one time and spent about an hour and a half.

[John Holmberg]

It's such a long. Yeah, it's like. It's like Chevy Chase and vacation.

[Brett]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Once you're there. Let's see. But. All right. So when I was there in 2016, I was mad because Megan actually said, I don't get it. I don't see the big deal. I mean, we're standing there, the sun sets, the whole place turns to this purple haze of I don't know what. I've got tears in my eyes. I'm like, this is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. No, no. I don't get it.

[John Holmberg]

I'm with Megan.

[Brett]

That's what.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

That's why.

[Brett]

Well, that could. There. That could be the problem. What?

[John Holmberg]

I got a 4K TV at home. It has just as good a picture as me going out there with all.

[Brett]

The advancements in technology, with the 3D glasses and things like that. Brett's right. Because there's nothing worse than getting off the 40 and having to drive that last hour up that dump street where the Flintstones live. And then you get there. It is pretty. We are so completely unimaginative and boring as a species. Now that the Grand Canyon's just like, meh. One of the seven natural wonders of the world again. And. And we've got that attitude. Oh, the hole. I still like flying over it, coming back from Vegas and stuff. If we take that little eastern bump.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

I always look out the window.

[Brett]

Oh, it's gorgeous and it's humongous.

[John Holmberg]

It hasn't changed.

[Brett]

Yeah, but that's the beauty of the bread. That's what you're supposed to do, like turn into rainbow.

[John Holmberg]

If I went there 10 years ago and go there today, it looks exactly the same. Maybe a couple more bodies down there. Who cares?

[Brett]

But the point is, you've changed over the last 10 years. Maybe there's more to appreciate and the world. And it makes you feel. No, no.

[John Holmberg]

I got a 4K TV. I don't need that.

[Brett]

Yeah, that is true. I say that about traveling all the time.

[John Holmberg]

75 inch Samsung on the wall with 4K. I'm good.

[Brett]

I agree with that to a certain extent, because I don't. I want to see the pyramids someday, but I don't want to go over there. Right? So the 4K helps. I watched the screensavers on when my Apple TV. Oh, my God, it's beautiful. Some of those rice fields in China. Rice fields in China. I'm like, I'm not getting this by being there. This is awesome. I watch Aerial America. You're right. The 4k tv has defin. Cut back my desire to go anywhere. I'm not social with crowds or people. I got no desire.

[John Holmberg]

Grand Canyon's obsolete now. Samsung made it possible.

[Brett]

That is a. That is a sentence I don't believe is factual. The Grand Canyon is. No wonder it's obsolete.

[John Holmberg]

No reason to visit that damn thing.

[Brett]

Fill it up, put some water in it. Make it a pool. Do something good. All right, you heard it here first. But we've. We at KUPD are gonna go with Brett's. The Grand Canyon is now obsolete. It is. Find something new to look at. We've had it with that thing.

[John Holmberg]

You know, there's nothing worse than driving up there with people from out of town.

[Brett]

I've never done it. Well, actually, we did it when I was a kid once. My. Yeah, my aunt Connie. And who was with us? I don't remember who came. My cousin Connie and my Chris. I don't remember who get. Anyway, we went up there and they were. Look, when you watch them lose their minds, it was pretty because they're from Pennsylvania, not me. I'm just sitting there. But you're used to that. Beautiful desert settings and things. The red.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that was the same thing. My ex. My ex's family would come out. So one year we had to go, and then the next year her sister came. I'm like, christ, it's the same thing. We were just there last year. You go, I'm not going.

[Brett]

Didn't the other family show you photos? Oh, man, that is true. Now you're talking me into this. We've got these glorious phones that take 4K video. Brett's right. That stupid hole's obsolete. Brett's. Brett's thing. The Grand Canyon. What else you got? This ain't so good. What does impress you? What nature. It's a good answer.

[John Holmberg]

It's not five hours away, having to drive by the Flintstones park and all the.

[Brett]

You haven't had virtual reality yet. You haven't even. No, I mean that. Do that. I'll even. You can.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

I climbed Everest.

[Brett]

I have been on Everest. I have been. Well, K2. I've been on K2.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

I was on Everest.

[Brett]

I've not done Everest, and I don't want to do Everest. But that was kind of a neat view because they took me right to the top. I cut out the middleman. I was with Brett on that Everest. Another thing that's obsolete. Yep. And the lines.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

I can't deal with the lines.

[Brett]

Rome. That stuff's been there for thousands of years. It looks exactly like it used to. That's kind of cool over there. Stupid outside. That's Italy. Italians.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

I was going to say the Alps over there.

[Brett]

The Italians don't know how to build the same. Not one of their. Not one of their stupid buildings held up either. Those Italians build stuff like, you know, ikea. I'm not going over to look at. That's all obsolete. Rome. This is not the attitude we're supposed to have as humans when we marvel at our planet.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

As many times as I've seen, like, the matterhorn.

[Brett]

Pretty cool. 4K matter. Very.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

In person.

[Brett]

What a humble brag that was.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

No, but I'm talking about.

[John Holmberg]

I don't need to go anywhere else.

[Brett]

Rubbing it in the face of the guys who won't leave their TVs. As many times as I've seen the Matterhorn. No, let me finish. In person.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

In our chalet.

[Brett]

It's right outside of the window. I like that you call it our chalet. It's your sisters. You didn't earn any of that. You show up. No, no, no. That is not your show.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

I split it three ways.

[Brett]

You rent it.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Oh, yeah.

[Brett]

Don't say our chalet. You're already. You've already bought it up enough with your. As many times as I've seen. You know how many times I've seen the Matterhorn? 3. At Disneyland. That's me. Yeah, so?

[John Holmberg]

And the monster in the middle.

[Brett]

Yeah, that's the better one.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

It's a little different.

[Brett]

There's no rides in your dumb one.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, and I have to drive. And I don't have to fly 16.

[Brett]

Hours an hour on a flight. I rent a car. I'm there. Matterhorn. Same thing. Only mine's got a monster and a ride. But go ahead, finish your story about how many times You've seen the Matterhorn in person from your.

[John Holmberg]

In your place.

[Brett]

Yeah. And you're in our chalet. Go on. Go on. Douche dick.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Well, my sister's flat. Geneva on Lake Geneva.

[Brett]

Those are apartments to us Americans. They call them flats in Europe. And Brady evidently feels he's got dual citizenship. Yeah, as many. Go ahead, finish. As many times I've seen the Matterhorn.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

He's still in person.

[Brett]

Yeah, we heard you. It was very bougie.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

And the fondue over there?

[Brett]

Oh, that. Well then they're down that. See, that's just it. Ray doesn't care about the sights you could poke. That's nice.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Let's get to the fondue.

[Brett]

Would you lose your sight for a lifetime of free food? Oh my God. No. It was too much thought there. You actually gave that thought.

[John Holmberg]

I can go to the melting pot. I don't need to go 16 hours.

[Brett]

I actually considered for a second go.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Through the rolodex of food.

[Brett]

40 kind of fast. Never ever have to. Okay, how about any food you want is at your disposal at any time. Swiss, fondue, all of it. Anything. All you gotta do is poke your eyes out.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Nope.

[Brett]

Nah. Now that's a better answer. But I don't believe you anymore. As many times as I've seen the moon. Let me finish in person from my moon chalet.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

Take time to think about that question a little bit.

[Brett]

No, you don't need a second or two. Anytime someone says or poke your eyes out, unless it's blowing Guy Fieri. The answer is always. I mean, think about it.

[John Holmberg]

If Neil Armstrong had 4K TV, then he's not riding with three dudes in that little capsule pissing in his suit. Everything else. Yeah, there's no way.

[Brett]

That's totally different. I would go to be the first person on the moon. You're not going to get that. First person to ever watch a person on a moon on 4k.

[John Holmberg]

If he had 4k, I'm in.

[Brett]

And the Neil Armstrong are watching Neil Armstrong in the middle of training?

[Brady from HMS Crew]

He probably. Can't we just build a studio?

[Brett]

Yeah, why don't we fake this? Nobody's smart enough to figure it out.

[John Holmberg]

Don't worry, they'll record over the tapes anyway.

[Brett]

Look, we're talking about the general public. These, these dip still walk into the Grand Canyon. Think they're gonna know that we're in a studio anyway? All right, well, Brett said it best. The Grand Canyon is obsolete. And also they've closed it for just reasons that nobody's interested anymore. It's Just. You got TV now, right? It probably has cut back on quite a lot of it. I don't want to take tourists up there either. I like. I like going. My friends from Chicago, we went up there. I hadn't been there since I was a kid. It was still the same, right? Well, that was not the point. When I was 10, the first time.

[Brady from HMS Crew]

I'm gonna go back up.

[Brett]

I had no life experience. No life experience of being 10. I didn't marvel at it. It was, you know, this is evidently something like at, you know, when I went last, I was probably, you know, early 40s, at 41, I don't know, I was like, this is majestic. This is. This is a beautiful thing.

[John Holmberg]

Then you should go back up there during Labor Day. That's not how it is.

[Brett]

I sat next to Danny Glover and we contemplated the. The meaning of life. It was a beautiful philosophical moment. I didn't have philosophy in my head when I was 10. Arizona's most powerful rock radio station. He said, fully erect. N.

[John Holmberg]

Hey, Byron. I heard you have something new to announce from MMP Guns.

[Byron]

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[John Holmberg]

Well, can you do this to my gun?

[Byron]

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[John Holmberg]

Well, there you have it. MMP Guns on the northeast corner of 12th street and Indian School or online at MMP Gun. Mpgunscustoms.com It's John Holmberg here from 98.

[Brett]

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[Byron]

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[Brett]

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