08-25-25 - Show On Lost Kid Who Was Found Dead Years Later Behind A Store Refrigerator BO

Summary

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Episode Overview

Podcast: Holmberg's Morning Sickness
Date: August 25, 2025
Main Theme:
The episode dives into the chilling true story of a teenage boy who went missing in 2008 and was discovered dead years later—wedged behind a commercial refrigerator in a grocery store that continued to operate for seven years after his disappearance. The crew discusses the bizarre circumstances around his death, the odds of remaining undiscovered for so long, and how easy it is to overlook even dramatic mystery when it happens right under everyone's noses. The hosts also detour into quirky fridge horror stories and wrap up with commentary on recent entertainment news, specifically the casting of Nicolas Cage as John Madden.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Lost Kid—Found Years Later Behind a Store Refrigerator

• Story Recap ([02:12]):

  • The crew revisits the disturbing case of a boy who went missing in 2008. Years later, during a grocery store remodel, his body was found wedged behind a twelve-foot-tall commercial freezer.
  • The store remained open for seven years while his body was hidden, and then stayed closed and untouched for three more before the body was found—ten years in total.
  • DNA testing was necessary to identify the remains due to the advanced decomposition and time elapsed.

• Incredulity Over How the Body Went Undetected ([02:55], [03:40], [04:20]):

  • Staff and shoppers never realized there was a body, despite being behind frequently accessed store equipment.
  • The hosts speculate that the constant refrigeration masked the odor. One mentions grocery back rooms “are full of horrible smells all the time” (Unnamed Male Host, [04:20]).
  • Vermin, like rats, were common in stores; their presence not being unusual likely diverted suspicion from anything sinister.

• Possible Explanations—Accident or Foul Play? ([05:40]):

  • No conclusive evidence of murder; the police remain uncertain. The crew debates whether the boy was trapped accidentally, perhaps while cleaning or retrieving something, or if he was intentionally put there.
  • “The way he was positioned, could have gotten stuck, could have gotten stuffed. But they’re like, we really don’t see any reason to believe this is murder. But we also have no reason to believe this guy should have been standing back there... it’s a crazy story.” (Unnamed Male Host, [05:40])

• Workplace Anecdotes—Commercial Fridge Hazards ([05:46]):

  • The conversation shifts to personal stories of getting locked in freezers or finding oddities behind fridges at work.
  • John shares, “We go into the freezer and it would occasionally latch shut and you couldn’t get out unless somebody on the other side popped it open... At Tony Roma’s, we go in there and see if you could get… if any of that moisture she was creating would turn. Froze, what would happen if you finished. Does that turn. Froze in the air? Because that stuff was like, it was zero degrees in there.” (John Holmberg, [05:46])

• Dark Humor & Social Commentary on Missing Kids ([08:47]):

  • The hosts joke that people should "check behind the fridge" for missing persons, reflecting on how society often overlooks the most obvious places.
  • “You pull that fridge out, you might find a body. If you’ve got a missing kid, check behind the fridge. That’s all I’m saying.” (Unnamed Male Host, [08:47])
  • John critiques the typical search efforts for missing children: “My rule is no one ever really looks for a living kid. Ever. Every parent that does the press conference… The parents know… They know what’s going on. But look behind your fridge.” (Unnamed Male Host, [08:47])

• The Mundane Hidden Horrors of Fridges ([07:31], [07:48]):

  • Personal stories about moving fridges and discovering food, pest evidence, and even joking about finding a body or corpse.
  • “I had a bar fridge… rolled that out one time, and I couldn’t believe what was down there... Like there were Cheerios. I haven’t had Cheerios in the house since I lived there… that’s where Cheerios come from, is under your fridge.” (Unnamed Male Host, [07:48])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Invisibility of Tragedy:
  “For seven years he was behind an open grocery store. People shopped in; he was behind one of the fridges... No one ever went right. So he was trapped back there, dies. And then for seven years the store’s open. This body’s been back there the whole time.”
  —Unnamed Male Host, [02:25]

• On Masked Smells in Grocery Stores:
  “As a grocery store worker, I can definitely say stores and grocery back rooms are full of horrible smells all the time too… If there’s a dead body in one of the stores, you wouldn’t even think twice about smelling it if you went back to the back rooms.”
  —Unnamed Male Host, [04:20]

• On Fridge Cleaning Neglect:
  “No one does that. That’s a lot of work and, B, that just seems like you’re gonna. You’re gonna think you live in a rat’s nest, realize what a pig you actually are.”
  —Unnamed Male Host, [07:48]

• On Search Efforts for the Missing:
  “Is he okay? No, he’s not okay… Stuck behind the fridge at work. We never even thought to look at work. I’m glad you’re taking this so well, but yeah, look in the places. You don’t imagine that, you know, he was at work. Last seen at work and then they scoured the workplace. I’m like, there’s no evidence of him. He was in there. Isn’t that weird? Like, if I die, look around here. Start where you last saw me and, like, be thorough.”
  —Unnamed Male Host, [09:59]

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Entertaining Sidebar: Nicolas Cage as John Madden

• Casting News & Outrage ([13:20] – [20:17]):
  • The hosts react in disbelief to the news that Nicolas Cage is cast as John Madden in a biopic, instead of well-known impressionist Frank Caliendo.
  • “If you’ve got this script and you’re the guy in charge of this movie, who do you put in that role?” (Unnamed Male Host, [14:45])
  • Discusses the oddity of Hollywood casting choices, especially since “Frank’s email for a while was that Madden guy... How in the world is he not up for that?” (Unnamed Male Host, [16:12])
  • John offers his own John Madden impression: “Boom. Whack. Here’s a guy. No, it’s not working out. Need me to do my American accent?” ([17:14])
  • “The impression gets unlocked by the impressionist. He’s going to watch Frank and he’s going to steal it from the guy. This is garbage. Garbage.” ([19:06])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:12 – Detailed recap of the missing kid behind the grocery store freezer
• 03:40 – Theories on how the body went unnoticed; store environments masking evidence
• 05:40 – Speculation: accident vs. foul play, investigation details
• 07:48 – Anecdotes on fridges, messy discoveries, and the neglect of thorough cleaning
• 08:47 – Social commentary on search efforts for missing people
• 13:20 – Discussion shifts to cinema: Nicolas Cage cast as John Madden
• 16:12 – Outrage and dark humor on casting decisions, role of agents and impressionists
• 17:14 – John Holmberg attempts his own Madden impression
• 19:06 – Gripes about Hollywood stealing from comedians

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Summary

This episode fuses a haunting true crime story with irreverent humor and workplace anecdotes, shining a light on both the tragic and absurd aspects of everyday life. The hosts marvel at how easily the extraordinary can hide in plain sight—whether it’s a missing person wedged behind a commercial appliance or Hollywood’s inability to recognize the obvious right talent for a role. As always, Holmberg's Morning Sickness delivers a mix of dark comedy, local flavor, and cultural commentary that will leave listeners entertained, disturbed, and maybe checking behind their own fridge—just in case.

Transcript

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[Unnamed Male Host]

It's Action Ride Shop. I'm reading about this last night. I saw a special on the kid that I. We did the story a while ago, but he went missing in 2008. And then his parents were like in this frantic state of like everything was crazy. He's missing and try to find him. And then, you know, I kind of give up hope after a couple of years. Then a couple, I guess like seven years later, they remodeled a grocery store and found his dead body behind one of the giant fridges. Been back there the whole time. And so the crazy part was for seven years he was behind an open grocery store. People shopped in, he was behind one of the fridges, stuck it in between the wall and the fridge and no one, no one ever went right. So he was trapped back there, dies. And then for seven years the store's open. This body's been back there the whole time. The fridge is doing all the circulating from behind, pushing the air up into the ceilings. Never happened. And it kept him cool enough all the time also because he was up against cool stuff somehow that he was fine back there. And then they closed the grocery store and didn't touch it for three years. And somebody picks up the property, goes in there, remodels in it as they're pulling the old fridges out, there's body just kind of crumples out of there. So they're trying to figure out if he got stuffed back there or if he was somehow another stuck. But it was 2019 when they went there and just removed some shelves and freezers and they found a human body. Yeah.

[Brady]

Did he have a, you know, massive heart attack or something?

[Unnamed Male Host]

I didn't know. The cleanup crew said they found the discovered body wedged behind a 12 foot tall freezer. Took DNA testing to figure out and the clothes that he had on, whether it was him. He'd been dead in this door for seven years while it operated and three more after it cleaned, closed. So people struggled to get their heads around that, like how in the world this happened. Nobody heard him the first couple days screaming and yelling and evidently was just out quick. Others been able to uncomprehend how shoppers and staff couldn't tell there was something behind the freezer. Just based on behavior of bugs, rats, you know, any sort of. Any exterminator that would come by, like you'd figure they would find it. Yeah, says shop workers who had similar roles to Larry's role. The guy who died said that nobody seemed to Notice the stench because the fridge was doing just enough to push it out of there. Grocery store. He said. As a grocery store worker, I can definitely say stores and grocery back rooms are full of horrible smells all the time too. Sometimes old dairy sometimes spills. If there's a dead body in one of the stores, you wouldn't even think twice about smelling it if you went back to the back rooms. But there are all sorts of people just saying it. So they still don't know like what happened. They said rats would constantly crawl into boxes anyway and they would die and we'd be the last ones to know if they came across a corpse and then, you know, were dragging. That's why they were there. So they just don't know. So who knows what kind of grocery store drama is going on back there. Maybe we should start looking behind fridges for all those missing people. Like kids go missing. It's like if you check behind the fridge because evidently that'll mask it. For 10 years they still don't know what happened to this guy, why it happened, was it murder, was it anything else? Yeah, and the cops basically said at the end of the story, probably going to be a mystery forever. The way he was positioned, could have gotten stuck, could have gotten stuffed. But they're like, we really don't see any reason to believe this is murder. But we also have no reason to believe this guy should have been standing back there in the first place where he got trapped. It's a crazy story.

[Brady]

That's why I'm saying like if he, you know, if it wasn't murder. He's back there repairing it.

[Unnamed Male Host]

He wasn't fixing anything. He's not that guy. He was like just. He was like a 17 year old kid working at the grocery store. He wasn't like a repair man or anything. Like what was he doing back there? Whatever reason, just something smoking. But we always used to go into the, at Tony Romas, we go into the freezer and it would occasionally latch shut and you couldn't get out unless somebody on the other side popped it open. Because we didn't back. They didn't have the emergency, emergency handle. So you, you know, people would jokingly shut you in there and you'd see how long you could go in and then you'd try to like go, you know, you bring a girl in there, see how long you guys could do stuff before she couldn't take it anymore. That goes on at a lot of restaurants where there's bone in the walk in because there was loads of it going on at Tony Roma's during the shift. You go in there and see if you could get. If she would, you know, if any of that moisture she was creating would turn. Froze, what would happen if you finished. Does that turn. Froze in the air? Because that stuff was like, it was zero degrees in there. It was quite literally a freezer. But usually it would end at making out. You couldn't keep it up. There's nothing about that. But if she tried to go down and do some stuff. Oh, it was. It was awkward, but fun. But that body being in there, it's just a fascinating story. And somebody just pointed out, was Brett anywhere near that Safeway that you're. It wasn't a Safeway. There wasn't a body behind the freeze, and no Brett was nowhere to be seen. Although that hadn't crossed my mind. Fascinating where dead bodies can be. And no one would know who looks behind the fridge.

[Brady]

Someone else. And then a couple weeks ago was someone bought a house and the body.

[Unnamed Male Host]

Was in the wall. Yeah, that seems to be more of a construction Italian thing. You put you in the drywall and hang air fresheners off you until they don't work anymore. But yeah, behind the fridge. You know, nobody wants to move their fridge. You move your fridge out.

[Brady]

Oh, well. Especially if it's a big commercial unit.

[Unnamed Male Host]

Oh, yeah. You're not touching that. A lot of times it's bolted into stuff. And I don't want to see what's under my fridge. God knows what's in there. And I know you're supposed to roll it out every once in a while and clean up underneath. No one does that. That's a, that's a lot of work. And B, that just seems like you're gonna. You're gonna think you live in a rat's nest, realize what a pig you actually are. I'll have Gloria come by. Why don' the fridge out of the way and get to that. I had a. I have a bar fridge in my little Steelers bar, and it's a normal size, like, apartment refrigerator. It's a freezer and a fridge. Yeah. And I'd rolled that out one time, and I couldn't believe what was down there. And it only been in there for maybe a year. Like, this thing, like, it just collects junk. Like there were Cheerios. I haven't had Cheerios in the house since I lived there. We had Cheerios in there. I'm like, how did Cheerios just appear? And that's where Cheerios come from, is under your fridge. They're self manufactured. It's gross. It makes you feel like a hoarder. Makes you feel like you're.

[Brady]

Get that vacuum wand out.

[Unnamed Male Host]

Just try. You try. Yeah, but you're not doing anything special down there. You pull that fridge out, you might find a body. If you've got a missing kid, check behind the fridge. That's all I'm saying. That's what that taught me, watching that special yesterday. No one. And they're kicking. And again, my rule is no one ever really looks for a living kid. Ever. Every parent that does the press conference and says, we're gonna find Adam and he's gonna be in our house again soon. And then they go looking and they show him in the field and they're all, no living kids. Just laying around. Like they know the living kid that's missing is probably sitting or leaning against a tree or running. The parents know. That's why they look down and they walk through high grass. They know what's going on. But look behind your fridge. Evidently that's a thing.

[Brady]

Imagine that last thing you went to work, which was at that store, and.

[Unnamed Male Host]

Then went to work, and then now you're looking everywhere.

[Brady]

But you'd never think about that.

[Unnamed Male Host]

Sweeping up. Goes behind. I'm clean behind. Maybe he was just a diligent worker. I'm going to clean behind the fridge. Nobody's ever done this. It stinks back here. Gets his coat trapped on something and he's stuck back there between the wall and he's gonk. Yep. Or somebody walks by and goes, what's this doing out here? And pushes him out and smashes him.

[Brady]

Between him with his headphones on and the guy pushing it back.

[Unnamed Male Host]

Right? Yeah. And now we're picturing a 70s movie where the black janitor is just too busy into his, you know, earth, wind and fire to hear the screams of them. Why is this refrigerator sticking out? And he smashes a man in between the fridge and the wall and then goes. And then he goes back to just dancing and mopping the way the 70s taught us to live. Meanwhile, this guy stopped. He's jammed back there. And that has to be a tough phone call. We found him. Oh, good. Is he okay? No, he's not okay. Where was he? What field? Did we almost find him? We were not even close. Stuck behind the fridge at work. We never even thought to look at work. I'm glad you're taking this so well, but yeah, look in the places. You don't imagine that, you know, he was at work. Last seen at work and then they scoured the workplace. I'm like, there's no evidence of him. He was in there. Isn't that weird? Like, if I die, look around here. Start where you last saw me and, like, be thorough.

[Brady]

He curls up in spots sometimes. You don't know around here.

[Unnamed Male Host]

Yeah, sometimes he balls up like a cat. Check behind the couch. Sure enough, there he is. First place we look, he got behind the couch and then Brady flopped on the couch and crushed his head. It's not pretty. Where's John? Is he not coming today? Smells in here like Korean barbecue.

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[Unnamed Male Host]

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[Unnamed Male Host]

Upd. And then the other thing that's going around the world, I got a text yesterday about 12:31 o' clock that said, have you seen this? And it's a picture of Nicholas Cage and John Madden. And I'm like, this is not. This is AI. This is fake. Like, no. And Calendo was sending me this. And he goes, this is real. And then he sends me the story that Nicholas Cage has been cast as John Madden in an upcoming movie. It is signed and done and they're ready to go. And it's not about John Madden's life. It's about the video game creation, like how EA Sports got John Madden Football up and running and like the, you know, the stuff that went with it. Nicolas Cage is going to play John Madden. Evidently, this has been in the works for a while because Will Ferrell had the job that fell apart. And if it wasn't going to be Will Ferrell, Hugh Jackman was going to play John Madden. So I told Caliendo, I'm like, dude, fire your agent immediately. This is your job. And he goes, oh, they wanted a real actor. I'm like, nobody is doing Madden that you made a career out of it. How is Nicolas Cage gonna be a better John Madden than Frank? Even if the acting's not that great and Frank can act a little bit, but there it is, Nicolas Cage as John Madden. Boom. Hey, friends, John Mann here for Ace Hardware. Giddy up. Boom. Bam. Right in the snot locker. Yeah, giddy up. How in the world is this gonna be? Here's a guy trying to play me, being me. I'm telestrator's not gonna do it. You know, it's got this thing over here. Yeah, that's why I sound just like that guy. I should be cast as John Mann. If Nicolas Cage's agent called and said Cage is interested and Caliendo's agent called and said Caliendo wants to play the Madden part. If you've got this script and you're the guy in charge of this movie, who do you put in that role.

[Byron]

Maybe it's a Feldman thing.

[Unnamed Male Host]

Maybe, you know, I mean, this movie.

[Byron]

Could be the Feldman.

[Unnamed Male Host]

Here's a guy loves football. I just don't see it. And I know he'll do the thing, but how in the world did that. How is Will Ferrell? How is that taking it more seriously than Calienta? So I told him, like, call your agent. Fire him immediately. This should have been one of those things, like Pauly Shore begging to do the, you know, the Richard Simmons movie, and then like, getting it to, like, that's Pauly Shore's project. John Madden movies need to be while Caliendo's still young. He's about the age Madden was when this whole thing happened with the. That was 30 years ago that this game started. It's perfect because Frank's right around 50. I think that's about how old Madden was when the game creation started. This is perfect. And he's like, yeah. I said they didn't want. So I'm like, you don't even know. Like, your agent's not paying attention. No, that's what an agent would do. You find out they're making a John Madden movie and you've got Frank Caliendo on your roster and you don't make a call. You're not pushing for that. Come on, you need to be his agent. That's what I said. I'm like, hire me. I'll get you. I'll get Cage fired. Frank's email for a while was that Madden guy. How in the world is he not up for that? Well, that's just how little he's done in his life, I guess. But we have to give an award later. This is the Frank Caliendo. Frank Caliendo Snub of the Year award. This is. This is tragic. Just terrible. You can't have that. It's. It's like Nicholas Cage playing O.J. simpson. Like, come on, it's. You gotta get a guy who does it. I do want to see. See this, though. I think maybe they have piqued curiosity with such terrible casting that I actually want to see.

[Brett]

I just find it hard to believe.

[Brady]

They threw out Hugh Jackman in the order Mike.

[Unnamed Male Host]

Right. Well, I can do it. Watch this. Boom, whack, Here's a guy. No, it's not working out. Need me to do my American accent? I can do that as well. Boom, whack, Here's a guy. We're gonna go with Cage. Has anyone called Frank? Good God, no. You gotta call. You have to call. Somebody says, do Nicholas Cage Madden in the squares? Probably. Will we? Probably. Give me an hour or two to work on something. We'll get that together. Maybe Brady will have a treatment since he's out of his lane. Yeah, he's. He's driving around like that Alsco guy this morning. Little Cage Madden. Yeah. Boom. Whack. First down. Ah, I'm gonna get on the bus now, baby girl. I don't get it, but that's the way the world works. But Caliento, I feel for you. Been a friend for a long time. I'd have made that call. Does that mean I swap a little.

[Brady]

Money, do a little independent and put it out before that?

[Unnamed Male Host]

Try to break one out first? Yeah, that's not a bad idea. Or just he's gonna have it in his act soon. But what he should be like again. Agents have access to things that have been greenlit. Like they know what's coming. Like, you know it's down. Like variety is the newspaper. We find. They find that stuff out before where an agent's like, oh, Paramount's talking about doing a John Madden. I got a guy. And at the very least you push. I don't know how to be an agent because I don't understand money or contracts, but I do know what's right for something. I could be a casting director in a heart feeling. If you're not doing Kelly or at least audition. Give him a chance. Apparently Frank's the agent. Doesn't know how to be an agent either. No. Frank, yeah. I'm better than him. I mean, Frank's agent, he doesn't love Frank. Drink enough. That's it.

[Brady]

Frank did a good one the other day on Instagram. He's. It's retro. It's Madden calling current football. It's like my home's play.

[Unnamed Male Host]

Oh, oh. Is it the Kansas City Chiefs thing where the wolf gets involved? Yes, he does that every. Every year. Yeah, he's been after the wolf. He. He's trying to create like the wolf scares Madden for some reason or he's like. Like thinks the wolf's up to something. How come we got him? There's got wolf for a mascot. He's been doing that one for a little bit. It's fun though. But yeah, he still does, man. And it's. You know, and then he could have been my friend and said, well, I need my buddy John to go in there and be the summer all. Yeah. And just. That's right, John. That's all he ever said. You've got it, John. Second down. Duck. Sienna. Beds John. Yeah, cpap. That's where I sleep in too. Here's a guy just wants to get out there and do the job and Nicholas Cage gonna do it for him. I mean, that would be as offensive as me stealing Frank's impression of John Matt and getting the job. This is because, you know, Nicolas Cage is going to watch Frank. He's not going to watch John Matt. He's going to watch Frank. The impression gets unlocked by the impressionist. He's going to watch Frank and he's going to steal it from the guy. This is garbage. Garbage. But our little guy, Frank Kelly and going to sit at home and have to watch that movie could have been a couple million bucks in his pocket. Because, you know, Cage ain't doing that for free.

[Brady]

I told him they asked me and I go call Frank.

[Unnamed Male Host]

He'd be perfect for this. They called you for the Andy Reid story called Full of Nugs.

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