09-12-25 - First Amendment Emailers And Reactions - Since The Kirk Suspect Is Young What If It's Another Luigi Mangione Situation - Could John Still Be With Dua Lipa If She Wore A Ravens Jersey Or Committed A Crime

Summary

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Holmberg's Morning Sickness – Arizona

Episode: 09-12-25 – First Amendment Emailers and Reactions, The Kirk Suspect & The "Luigi Mangione" Situation, Could John Be With Dua Lipa If...
Date: September 12, 2025
Host(s): John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo, with guest Doug Hopkins

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Episode Overview

This episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness is a lively—and chaotic—blend of listener emails reacting to current events and the show’s trademark irreverent banter. The crew dives into social media controversies, society’s fascination with “hot” criminals (prompted by a new suspect in the Kirk case), and the perennial question: just how far would John go for his celebrity crush, Dua Lipa… even if she crossed the ultimate fan boundary (like donning a Ravens jersey or—even worse—committing a crime)? The hosts swing between thoughtful (sometimes even serious) listener engagement to absurd hypothetical scenarios, all while keeping their typical, edgy tone.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener Reactions to Current Events—The Kirk Suspect & Social Media

• Tyler Robinson as a New Suspect:
  The show reacts to the emergence of Tyler Robinson, a 22-year-old now suspected in the Kirk case. Right away, John notes that social media will likely be flooded with his “digital footprint.”

  "Evidently, the suspect they have…he’s decent looking. Women are gonna start getting crazy about how cute he is and support him just because he’s a hottie. Now he’s a baddie and a hottie." — John Holmberg (03:48)

• Luigi Mangione Comparison—Society and ‘Hot’ Criminals:
  Multiple listeners email in, predicting a “Luigi Mangione” scenario, where the public is swooning or making excuses for a suspect because of his looks, echoing famous cases like the Menendez brothers and Scott Peterson.

  "We celebrated that guy because he was hot. Would you have cared half as much if it was an ugly guy who shot that CEO?" — John Holmberg (05:20)

• First Amendment, Social Media, and Responsibility:
  Listeners thank the crew for facilitating open debate and weighing in on hot-button issues. John commends the show's ability to balance serious issues with humor.

  "No one deserves to die at my hand for speaking their mind…with all the serious stuff…you guys balance the show perfectly." — Listener Doug, as read by John (06:06; paraphrased with attributions)

  They debate what happens when coworkers post divisive things online (e.g., pro-Palestinian/Israel stances), and John is clear-eyed about the risks:

  "Screw you Jews on Instagram is never good…That’s dangerous water to tread in." — John Holmberg (07:55)

2. Social Media’s Permanence and Fallout

• Consequences of Online Outrage:
  The group discusses how impulsive social media activity is immortalized and can have lasting fallout, especially professionally.

  "Nobody ever writes that story: ‘he changed his mind.’ Whatever salacious crap you said back in the day haunts you when you print it." — John Holmberg (09:19)

3. Women Supporting ‘Hot’ Killers – Double Standards & Dark Humor

• Unpacking the Phenomenon:
  The group riffs on how women sometimes swoon over infamous male criminals—even after their convictions—while ribbing one another about how men are only “boob-blind”:

  "You guys will support a murderer and then suddenly take his side. That’s because chicks don’t have foundational feelings a lot of the time." — John Holmberg (11:05)

  The discussion veers into notable cases like Scott Peterson, Richard Ramirez, and the Menendez brothers, drawing distinctions between “being attracted” and actual support/marriage offers:

  "He [Richard Ramirez] wasn’t even good looking. He was dark and mysterious. ‘I can change him’—that’s insane." — John Holmberg (13:03)

  John also points out hypocrisy in gendered critiques:

  "You guys wanted to bone Jodi Arias, but bone we didn’t marry her. I’m not going out there with a wedding ring…Sure, you’d like to have sex with her because she’s pretty, but then you don’t want to get to know her." — John Holmberg (13:13)

4. Sports Loyalties as Relationship Deal-Breakers

• The Ultimate Test—Dua Lipa in Rival Gear:
  In a recurring bit, the crew debates whether John could remain loyal to his dream girl Dua Lipa if she committed a cardinal fan sin (e.g., wearing a Baltimore Ravens jersey—the Steelers’ archrival).

  Key exchange:

  • “What if she showed up in a Lamar [Jackson] jersey?” — Brett (14:20)
  • “Oh…That cut deep…I might break down in tears. Man, if Dua Lipa put on a Baltimore Ravens jersey, you’d end it, right?” — John (14:28)
  • “You’d end it.” — Doug (14:45)
  • “My life. No…Yes. Would I? I’d end my life. There’s nothing left for me on this planet.” — John (14:46)
  • John jokes that Dua Lipa joining Al Qaeda would be easier to swallow than seeing her in Ravens gear (15:05).
  • Brett’s over-the-top scenarios (“Dua Lipa gang-bangs 311 with a Baltimore jersey on”) escalate the absurdity (22:27).

• Sports Fandom’s Weird Power:

  • The guys explore other hypothetical ‘dealbreakers’ for celebrity crushes — e.g., Margot Robbie dating Green Day’s Billy Joe Armstrong (20:09), or a crush that likes country music or Fish (30:05, 30:44).
  • John (and Brett) confirm: country music and Fish fandom are absolute no-gos.

5. The Workplace and Free Speech—Drawing Lines

• Social Media at Work—When Does it Go Too Far?
  Returning to the “Free Speech” workplace issue, John analyzes the risks for on-air staff if their personal posts cross a line, especially with clients or station management.

  "Is it the value worth it? All you have to do in this state is say it’s budgetary reasons. You don’t really even need to find it." — Doug Hopkins (36:54)

  • John is candid about his own refusal to post political content outside the show:

    "I’m on Israel’s side, but I’m not going to go out of my way to get on social media and start screaming at anybody else who disagrees…” — John (37:02)

• Practical Wisdom—Disconnecting:
  Referencing Charlie Kirk, John gives a rare slice of clean, universal advice:

  "When it starts getting overwhelming, put your phone down, take a break, spend some time with people around you...no matter who you are. Phones are off. That’s pretty good." — John (37:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On ‘Hot’ Shooters:
  "Women are gonna start getting crazy about how cute he is and support him just because he’s a hottie. Now he’s a baddie and a hottie." — John Holmberg (03:48)

• On Social Media Outrage:
  "Whatever salacious crap you said back in the day haunts you when you print it…Nobody ever writes that story: he changed his mind." — John Holmberg (09:19)

• On Sports, Fandom, and Love:
  "Man, if Dua Lipa put on a Baltimore Ravens jersey, you’d end it, right?...My life. No...You were right. Go back to the first thought. Yes, would I? I’d end my life. There's nothing left for me on this planet." — John Holmberg (14:29–14:46)

• On Male vs. Female ‘Killer’ Crushes:
  "You guys wanted to bone Jodi Arias, but bone we didn’t marry her...Sure, you’d like to have sex with her because she’s pretty, but then you don’t want to get to know her." — John Holmberg (13:13)

• On Fish and Country Music as Relationship Killers:
  "Fish is the deal breaker. Country music is absolutely out. Absolutely out." — John Holmberg (30:54)

• Advice from the Crew:
  "When it starts getting overwhelming, put your phone down, take a break, spend some time with people around you. I think that…that’s a pretty good [advice]." — John Holmberg (37:13)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• 03:28-08:12: Listener emails; reactions to new suspect; the “hot killer” phenomenon.
• 10:56-13:45: Social media, “boob blind” vs. “murderer blind,” infamous killers’ admirers.
• 14:20-17:39: Dua Lipa fan loyalty hypotheticals; Ravens jersey meltdown.
• 19:06-24:00: More dealbreaker scenarios; Margot Robbie and team affiliations.
• 27:40-28:58: Packers’ franchise QB success and Bears’ woes.
• 30:05-31:54: Fish and country music as absolute no-go's in relationships.
• 35:37-38:26: Free speech and workplace social media etiquette.
• 37:02-37:13: John’s personal policy on political social content.
• 38:26–38:50: Charlie Kirk’s “log off” advice.

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Segment Flow & Tone

The episode oscillates between earnest listener dialogue about free speech and social media, and the hosts’ trademark raunchy, irreverent banter—mostly over football allegiances, criminal “hottie” culture, and imaginary celebrity breakups. The tone is snarky with mock outrage and self-deprecation, but underneath, the hosts show genuine engagement with listeners’ concerns and commentary.

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Summary

This episode is quintessential "Holmberg’s Morning Sickness": rapid-fire, audience interactive, and jumping from the absurd (fantasizing about Dua Lipa in rival gear) to the sincerely contemplative (the hazards of social media and speaking out at work). The crew’s blend of gallows humor and real-world reflection keeps things moving, all peppered with memorable one-liners and surprisingly sharp analysis of public discourse and fandom.

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Transcript

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[John Holmberg]

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[Brady]

Holberg's morning sickness Gotta get up to here and make you laugh until you puke they might make you come undone make your cock rise with the sun we like to welcome you to this morning's show with John, Brett and Brady and big Dick Toledo. They call us Hobbs but we are not worth miles to nowhere they speak on controversy who's bobbing Johnny Snob they think Dua Lipa's great for the faint of heart they're not Homework's morning sickness Gotta get up to hear it Makes em laugh makes em cry in all seriousness and fun make your cop cry hit the sun we'd like to introduce our main host. They say he looks like Squidward with that big huge nose Ha ha ha. But that's a prereq. They own the mornings airing over 20 years. Like a blue pill, they're still going. Brady comes in shorts to report the news. He knows. But you can't eat at Porkopolis because it closed. Homeward's morning sickness. You gotta get up to hear it. Make you laug till you spiel. Wipe you off when they are done. Make your cock rise with the sun. Homework morning sickness. You got to tune in and listen. Tap that up yet. Don't get screwed in the end. All in good fun. Big R radio's got you, son.

[John Holmberg]

Thank you. Miles to nowhere. Friday is here and couldn't come fast enough. We get the couple days to exit they do now. I'm just on a. Tyler Robinson is evidently the suspect they have in this and he's 22. That explains that jump. It's wiry. I don't have any, but I'm sure they'll be finding his social media and his digital footprint will be everywhere shortly. It's everywhere. Guy says, I think we should still give Brett Brady's Instagram password like you were saying on regardless of what he uses it for, it'll at least give that account a little life. See if all of a sudden you'll know it wasn't Brady when there's a post that says, hey, any you broads think you can choke down seven burgers at once? Welcome to Brady's page. Bring your chunky ass down here to seven brothers. That's a very good point. All my emails now are saying, what if this guy, Tyler Robinson. This one says, I wonder if we're going to have another mangione situation here. Looking at some of the pictures they have of this guy already seems like he's decent looking. Women are gonna start getting crazy about how cute he is and support him just because he's a hottie now he's a baddie and a hottie. Yeah, that's a problem we have with society in a big way. Another one says, oh, like Luigi, this kid's eyebrows drive all the bitches crazy. You're gonna have a social wet spot. Yeah, and they'll dismiss it. It is weird how we when we celebrated when Luigi mangione like some people did. I certainly didn't. I just don't think shooting people's good ever. Well, they celebrated that guy because he was hot. And that's weird because that's the same people who are mad about, like, how come we're not paying attention to, you know, school shootings or murders that happen. Why is this One so much more important than another. Well then kind of ask the same question. If it was an ugly guy who shot that CEO back in November, would you have cared half as much? I don't think so. This one says a quick appreciation for yesterday morning and letting us rubes call in for a bit. I try to stay in the middle. Ish. And you made some solid points in the conversations about what's going on in the world that I'm an avid second amendment supporter and wholeheartedly think that what happened yesterday was absolute yesterday, meal, Wednesday, absolute nonsense. This. There's been things that have been said and done to me over the years that have pissed me off to no end. The last thing I've ever thought about was hurting someone for what they said. Oh, I'll spit on their car and get dream and fantasize about them getting hit by a truck or something. But no one deserves to die at my hand for speaking their mind. I gotta say it amazes me most with all the serious stuff that's been going on lately, not only with the world, but with you four fellas. Considering Brady's situation, Toledo's deal, you can balance the show perfectly. I hear you guys, all of us do. Genuinely speaking from the heart and speaking eloquently. Not Brady, but everyone else does. Then mom later, there's an effed up video or some sort of weird joke and the room filled with laughter. So thanks so much for what you guys do every week for us listeners. Okay, enough dick riding. Keep up the last with due respect to Toledo, let's enjoy Seattle getting their asses kicked this weekend. Go Pittsburgh. Doug, absolutely everything in this I agree with everything you said, especially the parts about me being awesome and the Steelers winning. I love those parts. Yeah, I got a lot. I mean my emails are burning up man. If we're burning out, it ain't showing on emails, that's for darn sure. Jesus, I can't keep up. But you guys, you know people, people want to speak about this and that's the reason social media thing, the one that just popped up, you just said off the air he goes, you know with your responde superior rule, John, I'm not gonna give this person's name but basically they said right down the hall from where you they're saying go Palestine. Is that going to get anybody fired? I don't know. I don't know that that's the wisest thing and I know that that's happened that we have people in this building that work at the other station that have been shouting out about how happy they are about Palestine and they've weighed in on that thing and that's. That's dangerous water to tread in. I mean, essentially just saying screw you Jews on Instagram is never good.

[Brett Vesely]

My God, they're talking about you.

[John Holmberg]

I know. I don't know. Will that result in somebody getting Brett got yelled at for having a cuss word on his social media page? I'm pretty sure saying, yeah, screw Israel is worse, but I'm not the guy in charge. I wouldn't do that. I've said some dumb stuff, but usually it's on the air where I'm paid to do it. I'm not doing it on the side. Jesus Christ. What am I, a moron? That's insane talk. Yeah, there's, you know, look, I don't get that. I don't get getting my nose involved in that kind stuff that I don't know. When you find time for it, I guess I need that explained to me. I don't know. When you sit at home and go, the world needs to know about this, like just at home. If you're paid to do it, I guess one thing. But if you're not, you're just.

[Brett Vesely]

Who are you?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah, you're not. You're just chucking something into a wall and being self important.

[Doug Hopkins]

It's their outlet.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, Your job, your outlet is fine. Your outlet is actually your mouth and your thought.

[Doug Hopkins]

Now you can put it down and.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you can put some pictures in there, you can publish it for all eternity rather than have a feeling and say, here's how I currently feel. And then guess what's always happened with that? 10 years later you can say, you know what, I was young and I was dumb and I changed my mind. But when you do something and somebody goes back in your history and says, this is how they feel about this, they're not going to give you the grace of saying, oh, he changed his mind, or, nope, you did this. Well, it's since changed. Nobody ever writes that story. He changed his mind. And then the world goes, oh, okay. Whatever salacious crap you said back in the day haunt you when you print it. I can say it to Brett. Yeah, hey, Brett. Israel, Palestine. And he'd be like, oh, Jesus, this guy's out of his mind. But then it dies right there. Unless Brett goes on and goes, john just said. And then I'd be like, no, I didn't. It's an easy out. I don't know. It's not that. It's not that smart. That's all. I don't know. You can do it to. I'm a big believer keeping away from that stuff. But if this dude is sexy, it will. It will. That's when I worry. I don't. That's when I worry that it's going to get really hot. Like, if this dude turns out to be another Luigi Manion on the heels of the one we just had, the sides are going to boil over. Somebody's going to do something in retaliation. Dumb. If there's people who are, you know, if any website start going, oh, Kirk, killer hottie, and you know, start doing little cute headlines, oh, my TMZ will.

[Brett Vesely]

Be all over it.

[John Holmberg]

Dear God. Yeah. Hot pictures from his website. Like when they did that with Luigi Mangioni and he was on that hike and he had a shirt off and it was a selfie. Overhead selfie, and he had abs and stuff. And all the comments on the picture were like, oh, my God. We had a lady who worked here that said, if he was in the room right now, I just dropped to my knees like, you just shot someone. She goes, yeah, I know. It was all good. I'm like, you bros are crazy. You call us boob blind and we lose our minds over looks, but you guys will support a murderer and then suddenly take his side. That's cause chicks don't have foundational feelings a lot of the times. That's why they'll switch football teams with whoever they're dating a lot of times. Yours didn't.

[Brett Vesely]

No, unfortunately.

[John Holmberg]

Morning sickness medicate. KU P. Holmberg's morning sickness. Either they don't care and say they're a fan, or they actually do care and they are a fan. But it usually stems from a father or a boyfriend. You know, I remember a first girl I had. It was the Bryan Adams girl I had like a good relationship with. Pretty sure her. Her high school boyfriend was like a Broncos fan. I don't remember the team, but it was like she had Bronco stuff. And I remember in her room she had like a. And I like some stuff, and I just threw him out. What are you doing throwing all this out? This is garbage. Oh, my God. That's my. I'm a Broncos fan. Oh, you're not. Not anymore. You were just a fan of the d. Of the guy who said he liked the Broncos. That's it. Now he's gone. Now you got Steeler dick, and you're gonna start carrying Steeler stuff around. Sure enough, within a couple weeks, you have a Steeler shirt. On this was easy. But you get super duper hot and you start doing crimes, chicks line up for you. Ask Scott Peterson. The Menendez brothers. The one dude got divorced and remarried in jail. He's been married twice since he went to jail for life.

[Brett Vesely]

Richard Ramirez, too.

[John Holmberg]

That dude wasn't even good looking. No, not at all. But he was dark and mysterious. I can change him. That's insane. This is a different sim. And I know I'm gonna get emails from ladies like, you guys wanted to bone Jodi Arias, but bone we didn't marry her. I'm not going out there with a wedding ring. And by the way, I'd also do it doggy style so I didn't look into her killer eyes. I'm not nuts. Sure, you'd like to have sex with her because she's pretty, but then you don't want to get to know her. That's true of almost all of them. You don't have to kill someone for us to be intolerant of you. We've met you at Bottle Blonde. She's hot, but she is stupid. This is gonna be really hard.

[Doug Hopkins]

Guilty.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. Yeah, but if you went out and slaughtered some people, you can still be hot and slaughter people, but you're still wrong. For I'm not gonna take your side because of it. Unless you're Dua Lipa. And then, of course, maybe she had some decent thoughts. She might have had a point. I've said that before. If Dua Lipa made me join, like some sort of political activation group, I might do it. But I wouldn't abandon my Steelers. Okay, maybe I was gonna say Dua. Dua Lipa comes up and goes, oh, I like the Giants. I'm friends with Cam's gadaboo. Okay, I can swap this stuff out.

[Brett Vesely]

What if she showed up in a Lamar jersey?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Brett.

[Doug Hopkins]

The deepest.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that cut deep, Frank. That cut deep. I might break down in tears. Man, if Dua Lipa put on a Baltimore Ravens jersey, you'd end it, right?

[Doug Hopkins]

You'd end it.

[John Holmberg]

My life. No, no, no. You were right. Go back to the first thought. Yes, would I? I'd end my life. There's nothing left for me on this planet. My finger is not even close to being on the pulp. I. I don't know what I do. Picturing it hurt.

[Brett Vesely]

I found it.

[John Holmberg]

It. We found it. Found it. Cuz in the past I said I'd eat coconut with her. Choke that down. Hell, I even said at one point, if she was joining Al Qaeda, I'd look into it. But the ravens are a bridge too far. Oh, my God. Brett found it. And I don't like that you found it. This is like when the pyramids opened and that dust came out and that guy's dog died 100 miles away, and, like, the mummies got him. That hurt. I don't like this. Show's over today. I never thought of it. It was just so out of the realm of possibilities.

[Doug Hopkins]

Didn't think you could bottom out.

[John Holmberg]

You hit it hard. And we're still Lamar Jackson. You've had to bring up like, well.

[Brett Vesely]

I had to go full tilt if we were gonna go there.

[John Holmberg]

Had she gone Terrell Suggs, it still would have hurt. But Lamar Jackson. And one of those sexy long ones too, like, oh, I need a minute, you bastard.

[Doug Hopkins]

Oh, man.

[Brett Vesely]

Shows up with Lamar grilling and everything.

[John Holmberg]

Concert away, she's got a grilling.

[Doug Hopkins]

She starts doing the Jersey thing. Whatever city she's in, performing.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I can't see that. If that. No, I can't see that. She's not that way, Brady. She wouldn't do that. She wouldn't do that to us.

[Doug Hopkins]

They start dating.

[John Holmberg]

I hope your other kidney falls out. Delito.

[Brett Vesely]

Get the best of us ready.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God. Oh, if I had to sit through that TMZ scroll Lamar and do a scene out on the town, it would. That would kill me. Oh, my God, that would kill me. Oh. Oh. Okay. I don't even know where to go from there. From here. It's too much. But if Tua started to shoot people, I'm still gonna think she's hot, but I'm not gonna, like, marry her. Can't say that 100%. Pretty sure. Pretty sure. I would be like, I better not do this. Yeah, yeah. No, I can't do that. I can't. That would be wrong. I'd visit her in jail a lot, write a book about her or something. But could I. I couldn't do that. No. I couldn't follow through a marchers, man, that stung. That was a punch in the head. Damn you, someone.

[Brett Vesely]

Just been a rough three days. For John especially now.

[John Holmberg]

That was. That one's. That one hurt, but yeah. Anyway, I try to get back on track here. I don't know if I can again. The Menendez brothers got me. We used to make fun of Larry for that. Like, he was struggling to find dates. And I'm like, the Menendez brothers. The one dude got married in jail, couldn't take it anymore, divorced her because he found someone else. He had options in a you know, 70,000 square foot building of dudes. He got. Oh, bastards have already done it. Bastards have already done it. She's so ugly in that jersey. It makes it easy. Oh, no.

[Brett Vesely]

You can take Jeremy for that.

[John Holmberg]

Stupid artificial intelligence is so quick. I missed the days of bad Photoshop. That looks real at least. It's. I shouldn't even say it. It's just somebody else's jersey, that's all. Oh, my God. I was using shoulder pads in that one. Oh, it's horrible. Jeremy Favreau. Yes. Jerk. Stop it.

[Doug Hopkins]

So fast.

[John Holmberg]

I know. Stop it. Oh, my God, that was quick. Stephen Hawking got somebody had an affair and his wife for.

[Doug Hopkins]

I mean, it was. That was it to catch a murder. Whatever that guy Steve Avery or the.

[John Holmberg]

The troll that how to make a murderer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That dude got something going. Yeah. Even other Steeler fan. Alvina is a girl and she goes, man, thank goodness she has a fella that Dua Lipa. Because that scenario is not a good one. Yeah. The good news is, is Caleb. Whatever, she's Callum. Whatever. The guy she's gonna marry keeps her at least one big hurdle away from falling for Lamar Jackson. Oh, my God. Who's your fake fantasy crushes? Margot Robbie. Though what would be the one that wrecks it? Because you and I have that same vibe about, like, all right, Margot Robbie could poop in cereal and I would eat cereal. That's gross. But I would do it. Who is it? Who would it be? What? As far as I would tolerate anybody. If Dewa started. Yeah, if Dewa started dating, like, Guy Fieri, I'd be like, ah, it hurts, but all right.

[Brady]

Night.

[John Holmberg]

Or geez, I don't even know.

[Doug Hopkins]

Like Billy Joe from Green Day.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, if she started loving on Green Day.

[Brett Vesely]

Watch your goddamn mouth.

[John Holmberg]

Margot Robbie and the guys from Green Day. Is it still there? It stings, right?

[Brett Vesely]

It does.

[John Holmberg]

You have the same passionate hate for Green Day that I have for the Ravens. And it's weird, but. Oh, that hurts. That. That. Yeah, that was a bad one. Oh, boy. Somebody just sent me a thing where she was actually on stage in a Texas longhorn shirt. It's pretty hot.

[Brett Vesely]

I mean, I might still be because this. This picture was just posted on tmz, so.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's her. If you get in close on that, she's leaning back. Yeah, she's in a see through dress at her new movie premiere. Yeah. Now imagine Billy Joe Armstrong's got his hand all over that ass. Oh, that's a stinger, man. Yikes. All right. Sorry. It's just not right. This one says Margot Robbie and Jordan Love, maybe. Or Aaron Rodgers or Brett Favre. It's different for you because you've never had, like a. Oh, the packers kept us out of the Super Bowl. We've got. You've got a rivalry, but it's usually, like, meaningless. It's just emotional. Well, it's.

[Brett Vesely]

You know, you had the.

[John Holmberg]

Aaron.

[Brett Vesely]

Aaron Rodgers, the I own you thing.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

But the problem was he was right.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't. You can't really fight back because it pissed me off.

[Brett Vesely]

But it was.

[John Holmberg]

It's so true. Heavily in favor of the packers for the last 30 years.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Holmberg's morning sickness. 88. K u p d Holmberg's morning sickness. With the exception of one year, the Bears have not really. The packers have not been, you know, trying to hurdle the Bears to get to the top. It's just. It's not that you guys are just stings. There's Margo. Jeremy did Margo in Packers gear.

[Brett Vesely]

You bastard.

[John Holmberg]

It's not as bad. That one doesn't hurt me at all. Oh, my God. What if Dua loved 311? Well, I guess I would be all mixed up. Don't know what to do. I'd be all over. I don't get Chia Chia. These guys are awesome. Dua.

[Brett Vesely]

All right, now the scenarios are coming in. Do a gangbangs 311 with a Baltimore jersey on.

[John Holmberg]

That's not the DUA I know. All mixed up, don't know what to do. I join in with 311. Like, love you guys. Think you're great. The second that Ravens jersey pops in, I've gotta go. This is terrible. What kind of world are we in?

[Brett Vesely]

Is that this guy just posted this. This was on X.

[John Holmberg]

No. No, it wasn't. I.

[Brett Vesely]

No, it's on X.

[John Holmberg]

No, it's not on X. They put that on her.

[Brett Vesely]

X.com right there.

[John Holmberg]

She's not wearing that. No. And besides, it's 88. Nobody on the team is 88. She wouldn't wear that.

[Brett Vesely]

It's still.

[John Holmberg]

No. Somebody put that on it. Somebody put that on X. Someone in Baltimore did that. And that's not real. Can you see in the back where there's an anarchy symbol on the wall? That's because that's what's happening in that picture. Nope, nope. And double nope. Not a thing.

[Brett Vesely]

I don't want to believe it.

[John Holmberg]

Huh? I don't believe it. It's not real. I can't believe the things you see. On the Internet is mostly fake.

[Brett Vesely]

I don't know what to think now.

[John Holmberg]

No, that's fake, Brady. It's designed to make old people like you confused. Don't fall for it. Gang Banks 311 with a jersey on. Who raised you?

[Brett Vesely]

Have some class, for Christ's sake.

[John Holmberg]

Thinks of such things. Such a. She's an earth angel. Jerks. I could take any other team. Doesn't matter. I thought you were saying. All right, any other team.

[Brett Vesely]

I mean, what if she tasted like coconut down south? We've answered that.

[John Holmberg]

I'd be like, gilligan, give me an Almond Joy. All I'd be doing is eating coconut. I'd have made it about eight minutes on that damn island with those people before I'd have been eating a Professor and Skipper. No chance. Professor comes over with coconut milk and every. No, no, I'm eating the Skipper. He's all meat, and I'm not putting coconut. I don't know how you people are gonna do this. Why didn't they fish on Gilligan's Island? They had to. One of them had to hate coconut. You can't get seven or eight people in the same room and all of them like, coconut. Can't be done.

[Doug Hopkins]

Wonder how many different dishes they made.

[John Holmberg]

Well, there's tons of coconut cream pie. They had that like crazy. They had the milk. They. Yeah, they managed to make straws and they couldn't find a fish.

[Brett Vesely]

They had even umbrellas in Mr. Howell's drink.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly.

[Doug Hopkins]

I thought they had some fish.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I don't remember eating fish as they did. They were.

[Doug Hopkins]

Gilligan would always go, like, come back from the lagoon. He's fishing a lot.

[John Holmberg]

Gilligan was a failure. He wouldn't send Gilligan to go fish for food. You'd send the Skipper. Gilligan would drop the fish and. Or get attacked by headhunters or something. He came by, they had coconut and they made their glasses out of Coke and they were terrible. I'd have had a skull bowl of the Skipper. He would have been my meal for the entire stay on the island. He's the biggest one. He provides the most meat. I'd had the professor go under that minnow and get a freezer together and we'd have stored that. I'm not eating that much coconut unless Dua Lipa's on the boat. She says, I'll do it with anybody who loves coconut. Guess what? That coconut's going down like I am. Thank you. Thank you kindly.

[Doug Hopkins]

Minnow and the dinghy behind it that had to carry all of this is House.

[John Holmberg]

We don't understand. Three hour tour. You don't take that much luggage anyway.

[Brett Vesely]

What if Duo was with Ray Lewis and had rust butt? I don't know where Hunter got this.

[John Holmberg]

One, but I'll tell you this, it would bother me.

[Brett Vesely]

Which part?

[John Holmberg]

The Ray Lewis I can fix rust butt. The Ray Lewis thing. I would assume she has rust butt because she has been raised so poorly to date someone the likes of Ray Lewis that she would have to class it up. Meets me and I'm like, you know what? One thing you could do is we could start washing your ass in the shower together. And then I could fix the rust butt. And then she'd be like, my ex, Ray Lewis never wanted to wash my ass. Like, that's because he's a filthy animal. And now you're with a human who's normal. I love you, John. I'm like, I know. Now, let's talk about the whole Ravens jersey situation. Don't you think Lamar Jackson is talented? Yeah. Anyway, let's get that jersey off. Oh, I accidentally threw it in the fire. Oh, I have to get me another. Yeah, we'll get right on there. Here. In the meantime, here's a TJ Watt. Oh, my God. Does that make your eyes pop? And then you just flatter her. The purple made you look washed out. What? And actually kind of a little fat. Purple adds weight to people. Oh, I don't ever want to wear it again. Good. See, I thought this through, Brett. I've got a scenario that gets me to the end of this game. Don't you worry. Speaking of packers and nonsense, that packers team might be legitimately great, and I don't know that they'd have needed Micah Parsons to be legitimate. Although he is a pressure machine. The dude is a nice addition, but that whole team looks solid as a rock. They've beaten two incredibly good playoff teams in a row, and they didn't look like they were sweating too hard to do it. I know you hate hearing that as a Bears fan.

[Brett Vesely]

It is what it is.

[John Holmberg]

There has never been a franchise that has gone three quarterback drafts and hit him out of the yard each time. And they didn't draft Favre, so they ended up getting lucky with that move. Pulled Farvin from a trade with Atlanta. He goes and makes him great for 12, 13 years. Put Aaron Rodgers in there. Great. 12, 13 years, maybe more. And now this Jordan Love kid shows up. And they didn't have much of a hiccup before. Like, no, trust us, he's our guy. And now he might be the he turns out you got three franchise quarterbacks in a row. There's that. That's just batting 1,000. Nobody's ever done this. And take it from me, a Steeler fan, take it from a Cardinal fan trying to find a replacement for Kurt Warner. That dude retired in like 2011, maybe even earlier than that. They had Carson Palmer for a minute, but that was kind of a blip and an accident. I mean, replacing a franchise quarterback is nearly impossible. They've done it now three times in a row.

[Brett Vesely]

It's right. Being a Bears fan and getting a franchise quarterback.

[John Holmberg]

The Bears fans have to watch this happen. And they've never had a guy throw for more than 3800 yards in a season when everybody is throwing for 4000 yards.

[Brett Vesely]

The best quarterback they've had was Jay Cutler. At the end of the day, he.

[John Holmberg]

Is the best, but it's not even close. Like he was breaking all of Sid Luckman's records on the way to being their best, and he still wasn't good. Crazy Brady. What if Anima wore a. A Steelers jersey? That's what people are asking.

[Doug Hopkins]

I can handle that.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God. This guy says, what if DUA had a Demaryus Thomas jersey on while she was banging on Ike Taylor's jersey with an overtime 80 yard touchdown playing on repeat in the background. Go Broncos. I remember that play. It wasn't all like Taylor's fault. Demarious did a crossing route. And the guy that took Ryan Clark's place cause he has sickle cell anemia and can't play in Denver. His name was Ryan Mundy and he was up too far as a safety and Demaryius cut behind him and that was the end of it. So shut up, Devin. Duo would never do that.

[Doug Hopkins]

But I think you'd be. I think you could handle if Duo, you know, was Tim Tebow.

[John Holmberg]

She was banging Tim Tebow. Oh, I'd laugh hysterically at that because I know he's not doing any damage.

[Doug Hopkins]

What about not. Not on the football side of it, but she's like introduce you to her boyfriend Trey from Fish.

[John Holmberg]

Fish. Oh, she loves fish too much.

[Brett Vesely]

That'd be a step too far for me.

[John Holmberg]

You think?

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You think if. If she. That's a deal breaker?

[Brett Vesely]

I think so.

[John Holmberg]

If Matthiah liked Fish, this would have never happened.

[Brett Vesely]

No, no. She would smell.

[John Holmberg]

That's fish smells. That's a good point.

[Brett Vesely]

And I don't mean that. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Ph F. Fish.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, you know what? It's a good point. Now you've added in the state patchouli.

[Doug Hopkins]

And.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, no, you've added in the smell.

[Brett Vesely]

No showers. I mean, deodorant.

[John Holmberg]

Oh. What if she just liked the music but didn't like the lifestyle?

[Doug Hopkins]

She was responsible, Fish.

[John Holmberg]

Country music's out for me. Yeah, yeah. She was a responsible fish user.

[Brett Vesely]

Is there one?

[John Holmberg]

Come on. No, but she was the one.

[Brett Vesely]

That means you'd have to have a brain.

[John Holmberg]

It's a good point. Yeah. Solid, solid point. Can't argue that Brett wins that argument. That's a good one. Fish is the deal breaker. Country music is absolutely out. Absolutely out.

[Doug Hopkins]

If they're super passionate. Yeah, that's a tough one.

[John Holmberg]

If they like it, they're out. If they're like, oh, I really like it, because that means down the road, she's gonna want to try out a Jason Aldean night, and you have to kind of be part of that every once in a while. I'm not doing that. It has to be something tolerable that you don't like, but you can still tolerate. Country music's out. We're gonna go see Morgan Wallen. Like, you and your friends are gonna go see Morgan Wallen. I'm out on that. I told you that. You.

[Doug Hopkins]

You. I mean, there's. There's stuff that you tolerate.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I'm saying. I ain't tolerating country music.

[Brett Vesely]

3:11.

[Doug Hopkins]

You could tolerate a.

[John Holmberg]

No, no. Morning sickness. Medicate. Kupd Holmberg's Morning Sickness, if that was a thing that was popping up every once in a while, and I was like, I love these guys. That's. It's over now.

[Brett Vesely]

We dropped the girls off and went to the casino.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I'm saying.

[Doug Hopkins]

So, I mean, you're okay with it? That. Okay.

[John Holmberg]

That was his ex wife's day. Yeah. She drugged. She drug her along, saying, you're gonna love it. She didn't know. She didn't care about. She didn't like him that much. Yeah. And also.

[Doug Hopkins]

But it was a night out.

[John Holmberg]

Megan's brother Tripp was there, too. It's a huge 3 11. Yeah. Trip brought some people. That's station. Her brother loved him. And then. Yeah. So that was like, a thing. It's like, you got to try this. And I'm like, I absolutely will not try this. So Brett and I. I. You know what is great about that? That night, I lost about $3,500 in, what, six to 10 seconds probably. And I was so happy I didn't get to see 311. That's. I didn't care. Money well spent. I just spent $3,500 to not have a ticket to that show. I was thrilled. I'm like, at least I'm not in there. And Brett and I, it was fast. Like, we thought maybe we would milk some time. Brett and I dropped I 3500 bucks. Was going so quick. And we just end casino for like, two hours waiting for that disaster of a show to end. And we'd occasionally poke the door open. I mixed up cha cha don't know what to do. Cha cha like, all right, they're still going. Sounds like somebody's throwing rocks at a bird's nest. Cha cha. You're gonna kill that bird. Oh, no. That's 3:11. That guy's singing that. Cha cha noises. Singing. No, but they think so. Chia Chia, I want to make love to you. John, I've brought a record. Oh, yeah. Let's make love to that record. Oops, sorry. Not one you expect me to get hard with this going on in the background. But I will say do a bricks little Clayton Anderson out. Might be able to get past that, but I ain't sticking around. This guy just fired over DUA Lipa wearing a Bengals jersey and a sign that says DUA loves Brady. And he just says, you can't trust Brady. He's a goddamn backstabber. You guys are jerks. Don't you have jobs? Don't interview. Have jobs to get time. Do this AI nonsense. Get to work. Got got time to AI. Got time to clean. Get to work. No need for you to go searching around.

[Doug Hopkins]

Take all day to do.

[John Holmberg]

It used to take forever, and now it's like, hey, chat GPT DUA lipa sexy Bengals uniform. That a sign that says Brady. I love Brady. And it's like two seconds later you get it, and then you get fired. To me, get to work. Remember when I told you about that respond? He had superior. I'm turning in. That is weird, though. Going back to that. Circling back in this very strange conversation is the I don't know where I like I don't know where or what. I don't know if I was Tripp, what I would do about. If Larry went off about Israel on his social media or somebody in the building talking about Palestine and all that stuff. I guess it would only matter if a client said something, you know, because we're kind of in the world of, you know, well, that's our job. But are you as the midday person or like, the afternoon? I guess afternoon's maybe a little More night guy. If Shannon started to do a it, he'd be out. Like if Shan man started to get a little too crazy about the Israel, Palestine to Gaza and stuff, I don't think he'd last long cuz he's not worth, sorry to say it financially worth the risk if a client did get mad about it. Right? Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

They probably have a strict talking.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, they'd have a talking to for sure. You got it.

[Brett Vesely]

For cuss words.

[John Holmberg]

For cuss words on the page. And it was online.

[Brett Vesely]

It wasn't on KUPD1, but it still ties back.

[John Holmberg]

Guy emailed in and said, you're not wrong about that being responsible with your boss. He said, I found out my new boss was against my political beliefs and my old boss wasn't and that was the only thing stopping him from firing.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, man.

[John Holmberg]

And that's the other thing. That whole rule comes down to your superior. And that's why I think that. I think that translates into Voice of the Master. It basically means whatever he thinks. Don't go against it too loudly. Off, off your time. Or don't do anything dumb if he's against it. Like if this dude hates 311, don't start putting up posters because he'll look for a reason to, can you? But that's the other thing. They start seeing that kind of stuff. Like if Brett was going a little heavy on the Gaza stuff on social media, and we're like, all right. And we're staunchly against what you say as bosses, I think you would sit back and go, all right, let's find a reason to get rid of them. You wouldn't necessarily dive right into that. You might have a chat with them.

[Doug Hopkins]

Which is like, ah, let's affect the pocketbooks, you know?

[John Holmberg]

Right, right. Yeah. And that's the thing. Is it, Is it the value worth it.

[Doug Hopkins]

Yep.

[John Holmberg]

But all you have to do in this state is say it's budgetary reasons. You don't really even need to find it. Right.

[Brett Vesely]

To work state.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it's very strange. Yeah, it's a good question. I don't even know. I don't know what you're talking about with what's going on. I know that people are supporting certain things and whatever on Instagram. I don't do it because I don't think, I think it's worth it. I'll tell you right now, I'm on Israel's side, but I'm not going to go out of my way to get on social media and start screaming at anybody else who disagrees I see both sides. I understand. I understand why. I think it's bad. Bombs are bad killings bad. If we could end it, that'd be great. But I'm always, I seem to be like on the side of the guy who stopped or started it getting knocked around. So, I mean, that's as far as I can go with it. But this is on, this is a forum we're supposed to have that. I just started spewing that out at 3 in the morning. I don't know. I don't understand social media. I never will, but I do understand. Huh. It's not a bad thing. No, I know. And there's one thing that Charlie Kirk said I think everybody can agree agree with is that when it starts getting overwhelming, put your phone down, take a break, spend some time with people around you. I think that no matter who you are or if, even if, even if you know Clayton Bigsby, the Chappelle's racist character, the Klansman, even if he said that, you'd be like, well, I don't necessarily agree with everything this guy has to say, but that's a pretty good. Put your phone down. He never, evidently he turned his phone off for Sundays. He just turned it off. Like just spend time with the family. Phones are off. That's pretty good. We're so tied to it.

[Doug Hopkins]

There's time to catch up.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, just keep the ringer on in case someone calls if there's an emergency. But outside of. That's the only reason to have like a home landline. As you know, you turn your cell phone off so you're not looking at the Internet and all that other stuff. Although on Sunday it's tough because of fantasy football and Charlie had the wrong day either way. What do you got on the big board of musical treats over there, Burt?

[Brett Vesely]

Like I saw, I'm brought to you by Action Ride Shop with the two locations. Don't for that. The boys are covering the valley. Well, at least the east valley over there on Gilbert Road in Southern and they're getting ready for, you know, it's going to be here. Snow's going to be hitting soon, so that start getting in there and getting.

[John Holmberg]

Your gear ready and the trails are going to be.

[Brett Vesely]

Going to be amazing.

[John Holmberg]

Weather's going to be unbelievable here in a little bit. I was talking. Josh was through proxy. Yeah. Talking about stuff. And they're going to get like, just basically you all have bikes now, so let's get out there and start buying all the stuff, all the camelback packs and all the things They've got helmets, pads. Go reload on those and get ready for the weather. Weather. Like, let's just all be at the starting line when it starts. Being 85 every day.

[Brett Vesely]

I'm gonna ride Saturday.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God. In the morning, it's been unreal. Unreal.

[Brett Vesely]

So best way to do it is to head on over to Action Ride shop, and if, you know, if you don't have a bike, pick one up. If you want to rent one, you're not sure, he's got. He's got a full rental, fleet e bikes. You name it, he's got it even.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that might be a better way. What's that? Rent? Just renting bikes? Yeah. You just get out there, you rent it, you run it for the day. He takes care of it. Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

Maintains it, everything.

[John Holmberg]

That's a good thing.

[Brett Vesely]

It's not that expensive.

[John Holmberg]

No, I sell my bikes to him and just start renting every day. Every time. Just go out to Hawes. It's a little bit of a trek for me, but stop by Hopkins place, have him give me a couple of. I like to go bike riding with Doug Hopkins just to hear the complaint. By the way, congratulations to Pop. Pop. Doug Hopkins daughter went into labor last night. I don't know the results.

[Brett Vesely]

First time grandpa yet, huh?

[Doug Hopkins]

It hasn't hatched yet.

[John Holmberg]

I don't. I. It was late last night when he texted me, so I would assume that she. Unless she's still in labor. Like, that's a tough one. I don't know.

[Brett Vesely]

First time Grandpa or is this.

[John Holmberg]

I don't think so.

[Brett Vesely]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

No, he's got other ones. Okay. I think. I don't know what a friend you are. Well, I don't. I don't want to know about his grandkids. I don't want to know about his kid. Kids, they're adults now. I like his kid a lot now, but. Yeah. Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

When they were younger, you know, I.

[John Holmberg]

Wouldn'T have been hanging out with a guy. No, I. Congrats to the. Look, I was just trying to say congratulations. Why you gotta break it down? Made me do his family tree on the air. I just said, congratulations, There's a new one. I said, name it John. Boy, what a prick.

[Brett Vesely]

You should have known.

[John Holmberg]

I texted him last night, I said, name it John. And he goes, charlotte. And I'm like, I don't care where you do it, Just name it John. On. So, evidently, he's in Charlotte having a baby. Oh, I see. He was going to name it Charlotte. I get it. What's up on the list.

[Brett Vesely]

Sacred Reich, Disturbed, Anthrax, Mud Veins. New track. AC dc, Iron Maiden, Shine Down, Stained, Ministry, Paparo, Motorhead, Heartbreaker For Dua in A. Lamar.

[John Holmberg]

Stop it.

[Brett Vesely]

And White Zombie. Welcome to Planet Mother Effer.

[John Holmberg]

Is Mud Veins new and good?

[Brett Vesely]

I haven't heard it yet, to be honest with you.

[John Holmberg]

Want to give it a run? Sure. Let's taste it. Let's taste it first. Yeah. Is it cussy? I don't know. Yeah, because we don't know the lyrics yet. Right. What's it called?

[Brett Vesely]

Brian Adams.

[John Holmberg]

Ready for you. You were playing Brian. She wasn't that important. Mud thing. What is. What's the song called?

[Brett Vesely]

Sticks and Stones. It's got cussies in it, but I.

[John Holmberg]

Don'T know how bad. Well, the lyrics are already on the Internet. Internet? Well, so it says. It did. It's in the system. Oh, he's got a rhinestone. We can play. We can play the clean one right here. Thanks, Richard. All right, we'll do that. I haven't heard it yet. Evidently, we're playing it. So. New one from Mudvane. We'll wake up with that. It's 98 KUPD. Let's see who likes. It's out of control now.