10-02-25 - Entertainment Drill - THU - w/Dale Hellestrae - Nevermind Baby Has Lost His Child Porn Lawsuit Against Nirvana

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Podcast Episode Summary

Podcast: Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona
Episode: 10-02-25 - Entertainment Drill - THU - w/Dale Hellestrae - Nevermind Baby Has Lost His Child Porn Lawsuit Against Nirvana
Date: October 2, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, John Holmberg and the crew, joined by guest Dale Hellestrae, dive into a rapid-fire Entertainment Drill, mixing playful banter with their signature irreverent humor. The focus ranges from celebrity wellness hacks to the recently dismissed “Nevermind Baby” lawsuit against Nirvana, with plenty of riffs, personal stories, and pop culture commentary woven throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Brady’s Barefoot Build & Weight Loss

• The show opens with some ribbing about Brady’s unique feet (“cute, round, like a stuffed animal”), leading to a discussion about his recent weight loss (17 lbs), and the odd milestones that come with it.
  • Quote: "If you just little hair sitting on top of it, you'd pet them. Like, look at these little guys. No toes. They're in there somewhere." —John Holmberg (00:39)
• Both John and Brady compare their weight loss journeys, with surgical humor and nods to changing appearances.

2. Wellness Hacks Gone Wild (03:02 – 05:50)

• Brady runs through a list of “wild or gross wellness hacks” allegedly embraced by celebrities:
  • Tom Brady: Drinks lots of water to prevent sunburn.
    • John jokes about his own hydration obsession:
      • Quote: "I had 18 beverages yesterday. There's no reason for that... But I've noticed that since it's gone almost all water, my skin is wildly different, like, incredibly different." —John (03:17)
  • Kourtney Kardashian: Claims semen consumption aids fertility.
    • Quote: "Who told her that? Her doctor… Is that true, ladies? Well, I don't want to encourage fertility." —John (04:27)
    • More jokes ensue attributing the claim to Travis Barker.
  • Kim Kardashian: Tried vampire facials (blood plasma treatments).
  • Kesha: Drank her own urine and did not recommend it.
    • “It depends what you ate the night before… Drinking mine is fantastic because it’s mostly just Twix and water.” —John (05:11)
  • Gwyneth Paltrow: Sold vaginal jade eggs via Goop, then was sued.
    • “She’s turned into a lunatic.” —John (05:49)
• The crew reacts with playful skepticism and sarcasm throughout these stories, poking fun at celebrity health fads.

3. Nevermind Album Cover Lawsuit (06:03 – 08:16)

• The group addresses the news that Spencer Eldon, the baby featured on Nirvana's "Nevermind" album cover, lost his child pornography lawsuit.
  • Dale was unfamiliar with the original album; John offers a quick rundown of its cultural legacy.
  • Timestamps:
    • Background/Album History (06:13 – 06:31)
    • Lawsuit Details (06:33 – 07:48)
• Key details:
  • The judge ruled the cover is not sexual exploitation.
  • Eldon had financially benefited from his fame in prior years (recreating the photo, signing autographs).
  • Quote: "He shows up. Yeah. And tries to make money off of this when he should be mad at his parents. His parents got paid. Screw that." —John (07:39)
  • The group largely dismisses Eldon’s claims, suggesting his motivation is financial.

4. Everybody Loves Raymond Special (08:16 – 09:53)

• Brady brings up the CBS 30th Anniversary special for "Everybody Loves Raymond."
  • Cast updates and planned tributes to the show's deceased stars:
    • Quote: “The special will include tribute to Doris Roberts and Peter Boyle.”—Brady (08:58)
  • The crew reflects on Brad Garrett’s recent Emmy bit with Ray Romano and some personal Vegas anecdotes.
    • Quote: “He comes out and he goes, I won one of these. Let me tell you all something… it does nothing for your life.” —John, recounting Brad Garrett (09:05)

5. Sports Anecdotes and Reading the Room (10:03 – 11:26)

• John and Dale discuss the awkwardness of being in public as a celebrity, referencing Dale’s football days and audience etiquette.
• Dale shares a story about preseason NFL games, including one in Mexico City where he tried to avoid overtime as a long snapper:
  • Quote: "Daryl Johnson was my backup… he goes, ‘Hey Dale, if we score please go in and Snap. Because if we miss this extra point, it goes overtime. That's gonna suck.’" —Dale Hellestrae (11:02)
• The segment closes with talk of upcoming events, time off, and some gentle teasing among the crew.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Water and Wellness:
  • “Did anybody tell anyone this? That water’s good?” —John (04:12)
• On Nirvana Lawsuit:
  • “If your parents took a payment, it’s over.” —John (07:56)
• On Celebrity Annoyance:
  • “It’s amazing. People don’t read the room these days, you know what I’m saying Johnny? I think it’s a gift.” —Dale (10:20)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 00:20 | Brady’s feet and weight loss | | 03:02 | Celebrity wellness hacks | | 06:03 | Nevermind album cover lawsuit discussion | | 08:16 | Everybody Loves Raymond 30th Anniversary Special | | 10:03 | Vegas celebrity etiquette & sports anecdotes | | 11:02 | Dale’s NFL preseason story; wrap-up |

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Tone and Style

The show brims with affectionate teasing, irreverence, and unfiltered banter. John leads with dry wit, Brady adds earnest reactions, and Dale chimes in with pro sports perspective—making the episode engaging and humorous for both longtime fans and newcomers.

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This summary captures the episode’s main topics, key discussions, memorable lines, and the overall humorous flavor, giving listeners a comprehensive overview of what they missed.

Transcript

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[A]

Time now for Brady to entertain us all. He don't have turf toe.

[B]

Oh, he know.

[A]

I don't think you can give Flintstones skinny. I don't think the Flintstones can get turf turf brain. Brady's got that round back build a barefoot. It's adorable. It's like a stuffed animal foot. It's so cute. You'll see these things. Take your shoes off.

[C]

Trim my claws.

[A]

They're perfect circles.

[B]

Yeah, maybe next week make sure your.

[A]

Your claws are perfect circles with little lines in the end. It looks like somebody drew his feet. He's adorable. You want to just put them on top of a dresser and have him sit there with his little teddy bear feet? They're gorgeous. Cute feet. Anyway, tough to find shoes because they don't make round. They have the cutest round feet I've ever seen. They're adorable. If you just little hair sitting on top of it, you'd pet them. Like, look at these little guys. No toes. They're in there somewhere. But yeah, he's got those. And he's amazingly athletic.

[B]

Have you lost weight for though, Brady?

[A]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Like, what are you looking at? 10 pounds?

[C]

I mean, 17.

[A]

17 is pretty darn good.

[B]

It's like me, I lost 20 pound when I. I've lost about 60 over the last couple years, but I lose 10 pounds. Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Did you not shave? You were stiffen about.

[A]

Yeah, I know exactly. It's jowls. Yeah, that's first. Seriously, people lose a lot of weight. The first thing I notice when they're losing weight is their neck. Because your face loses it.

[B]

That's why you gotta keep good posture.

[A]

Otherwise. Otherwise it looks like your neck's trying to eat you or you're wearing a turtleneck of skin. Yeah. That's when I know, oh, you've lost a lot of weight because it gets jowly.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Which is a fine thing. Better to have jowls than a big fat.

[C]

The surgeon took partial credit. He goes, I started you off with seven and a half pounds.

[B]

That's how much your kidney weigh.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Tumor.

[B]

It's a big kidney. Oh, the tumor.

[C]

I was enlarged.

[A]

Yeah, it was. When they took Brady's kidney out, it was wrapped in Hostess paper. It had a name. It said Ring D. It was in.

[C]

The brown butcher paper.

[A]

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[C]

Here's a list of wild or gross wellness hacks shared by celebrities over the years. Tom Brady said drinking large amounts of water will help prevent sunburns because your skin's hydrated.

[A]

That has some sense to it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I've noticed that since I've killed the soda pop and I'm drinking. I have a drinking problem, Dale, and it isn't alcohol. I have to. Yesterday I counted. I don't know why. I had 18 beverages yesterday. There's no reason for that. Like bottled water or.

[C]

You're hydrated, Lacroix.

[A]

I am hydrated, but I'm drinking. I always have. Like, I got two right now. I always have a drink in my hand.

[B]

18. But I know you cut out soda.

[A]

No, no. When I was doing soda, I was drinking 12 or 13 cans of that a day. And then seven or eight things of water and whatever else I. I always have to have something to drink. But I've noticed that since it's gone almost all water, my skin is wildly different, like, incredibly different. And my throat is, like open. My sinuses feel better. You should try it too, Brett, because you got sinus bad waters. The cure all. Did anybody tell anyone this? That water's good.

[B]

Water's good for you.

[A]

Never heard that in my life. No, I always heard it was coca cola.

[C]

Courtney Kardashian said her doctor told her to that drinking semen four times a week could help her with her fertility.

[A]

Fact.

[C]

Who told her that? Her doctor.

[A]

No kidding. Is that true, ladies? Well, I don't want to encourage fertility. It also cures most colds and gives you good skin. Is that Courtney?

[C]

Courtney?

[A]

Travis told her that. Travis. Travis told her that. We don't have a baby. We got to do it. I got to put it in your mouth.

[C]

Her sister Kim Kardashian received a vampire facial, which is when your own blood is drawn. Then their blood, the platelet rich plasma, is injected or topically spread onto your face.

[A]

No kidding.

[C]

She said it was painful and she wouldn't do it again.

[A]

That sounds like a ritual.

[C]

Kesha drank her own pee because she thought it would be good for her. And she said, I won't. I wouldn't recommend it.

[A]

It depends what you ate the night before. Like right now, my PE is probably. If you ate pineapple would be good. Pineapple be good. Drinking mine is fantastic because it's mostly.

[C]

Just Twix and water and then Gwyneth Paltrow.

[A]

I like Twix. I like Twix a lot, probably. I bet you my urine tastes fantast.

[C]

Gwyneth Paltrow and Goop sold those jade and rose quartz eggs that women put up in their lady bits you to increase feminine energy and increase vaginal muscle tone. They got sued.

[A]

No kidding.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

For what?

[C]

It wasn't proven. Oh, they're saying this will help.

[A]

She's turned into a lunatic. Still have a story.

[C]

Dale has story.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Go ahead, Dale.

[B]

I don't even look at these anymore.

[A]

Because neither does Brady.

[B]

Which one?

[C]

That one.

[A]

You do a pick them down.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The Nevermind baby lost his child pornography lawsuit against Nirvana.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Do you know who this is?

[A]

Nirvana.

[B]

No. The baby?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Never mind.

[A]

Do you remember the album Nevermind?

[B]

No.

[A]

By Nirvana?

[B]

No.

[A]

You were in the heyday of your championships.

[B]

Really?

[A]

In 1991, Nirvana's Nevermind album came out and took the world by storm. It began the grunge arrow, which actually isn't true. Allison changed Soundgarden. Did that before. And I had some other bands too, but they were.

[B]

The Soundgarden was grunge.

[A]

Oh, yeah. They were more. You do. Okay. This is the album cover which was the album Nevermind. We're showing Dale on the screen. So that baby a couple years ago has grown up now. He's like what, 20? What is that, 33 year old kid now? So he comes out and he goes well, that's me and that's child pornography. Yeah. And he said, I never got paid for that. So he sued him 30 years later to say he wanted money for that album cover.

[B]

It says the naked baby on the COVID of the Nevermind album is not child pornography. That's according to federal judge, part of the lawsuit.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Spencer Eldon is the Nevermind baby. And they can't prove it's him, who's 34. Now it's sued Nirvana claiming he was a victim of child sexual abuse. But the judge said, quote, neither the pose, focal point, setting nor overall context suggests the album cover is feature sexually explicit contact. Judge added that Eldon has financially benefited from the Nevermind cover baby, including being paid to recreate it and selling autograph.

[C]

He recreated. Sold his merch.

[A]

Yeah. For a couple years. He pulls up a loss. Yeah. He shows up. Yeah. And tries to make money off of this when he should be mad at his parents. His parents got paid. Screw that. Yep.

[B]

Oh, his parents got paid.

[A]

Well, they gave the. Yeah, they gave the rights if it's actually him. Right. There's been arguments that it wasn't him.

[B]

So you're arguing if you're the baby.

[A]

On the Nevermind album, if your parents took a payment, it's over.

[C]

And for those years, I was happening. Because it took a while for him to turn around, like, oh, maybe I can make some money.

[A]

Because he was broke dick. And he's like, where can I make. He's a. He's a loser. That guy's. Every couple of years he tries to make something because he's not good at anything.

[B]

That's the. The first story gave. It was good. I. I loved Everybody Loves Raymond. You guys watch that growing up?

[A]

Yeah. It's not him.

[B]

No, no, what I'm saying. It's another. It's the other story he gave me. Oh, the 30th anniversary special.

[A]

I was a Nirvana baby. Oh, Robert. Robert. I was the Nirvana baby. My dick was on a. On an album. Oh, boy.

[B]

It'll be 90 minutes long on CBS. Everybody's coming back. That is anybody.

[A]

Well, two of them are dead.

[B]

Brad Garrett, Patricia Heaton, Monica Horan, Madeline Sweet.

[A]

Those are the babies. Oh, those are the little infant.

[B]

Oh, how did you. You know so much about stuff.

[A]

Madeline Sweeten is Jody Sweeten's sister.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And she was on Full House.

[B]

And the special will include tribute to Doris Roberts and Peter Boyle.

[A]

Yeah. Because they're dead.

[B]

They're dead.

[A]

And they were the funniest parts of that show.

[B]

They were.

[A]

That was A. It was a great show. Hello Raymond. I loved that when he would walk in the Brad Garrett was sofa. He was great in the Emmys the other night. I don't know if you saw that. They came out together, Brad Garrett and Ray Romano. And Brad Garrett says, he comes out and he goes I don't. I won one of these. And he goes, let me tell you all something right now. It does nothing for your life. I didn't change a thing. And he said, win one, you're done. And then he asked Ray, he goes, do you think I'll ever come back? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe you do something else. I think the next time you see me on the semi stage it'll be the in memoriam. The whole crowd goes, oh, right after. He was brilliantly funny. I watched him playing blackjack in Vegas once and people just bothered him like crazy.

[B]

Really?

[A]

He's got a club across the street. Susan Aria. And then he went over and played on a slot machine by himself.

[B]

You followed him?

[A]

No, I was just sitting close to him. I left him alone. I don't bother people like that. But I found it interesting.

[C]

It was high limits.

[A]

Well, how people. No, it wasn't. He was actually sitting out in the. Not high limits but he was clearly annoyed and nobody read the room. Right. Just leave him a cookie picture. Sure. And then they'd take a picture and then another person would do it. Once the first one gets A yes, there's 30 more. You wouldn't know, Dale, but I'm sure you saw it with like Troy.

[B]

It's amazing. People don't read the room these days. You know what I'm saying, Johnny? I think it's a gift. You're distracted by the way you played.

[A]

In in a tie in the preseason and in the 2.2ties in the preseason you played the Eagles with the bills in 85. Barn burner of a game 00. And then in 1993 a preseason the Lions game 1313.

[B]

There's nothing worse than a preseason overtime game.

[A]

Can't imagine. Unbelievable you as a long snap. Well, actually with the Bills you were playing but with the Cowboys you actually had to play in the overtime.

[B]

Yeah, or they' backup snapper or something.

[A]

6 and 5 record in all other overtime games.

[B]

I will tell you one other thing that we were down in Mexico City preseason game. It was. We were driving down, we're gonna. We scored touchdown. Daryl Johnson was my backup as fourth quarter and he comes walking over to me, he goes hey Dale, if we score please go in and Snap. Because if we miss this extra point, it goes overtime. That's gonna suck.

[A]

So you went in late and played.

[B]

Snap the ball.

[A]

And we play to win, Dale. Play to win.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's how it works. All right, that's it. We're done. You're not going anywhere. You're not going anywhere. We're all good. Oh, yeah, I'm out Saturday. Oh, where are you going? Oh, yeah, we're out today. This is it. We're not coming back tomorrow. I forgot the Steelers on a bye week, so it's an automatic three day weekend for me. So I can do whatever I want on a weekend. Finally, Brady's got. His mom had a surgery. He's got to fly back to Ohio to make sure mom's okay. So he's going to be gone for a few days. Okay, you're good. You're coming back Monday? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, good. Saturday I'll be at America First Credit Union in Goodyear from 11 to 1. So come on out and see me. So keep an eye open for that.

[B]

Do you show more personality when you go out in the public than you do here or you still got that face?

[A]

He's loaded with personality. He just. He quiets down for you. Maybe it's the crowd that I'm. Yeah, maybe he doesn't want to interact at this dinner of yours. Larry's coming up next. We'll see you guys Monday right here in the morning sickness.

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He said fully erect 98.