10-02-25 - Has Tony Romo Been Using Botox After His Face Appeared Off Sunday - Nicole Kidman And Keith Urban Are Divorcing And It Could Be Over 25yo Country Artist Maggie Baugh Who's Touring w/Keith

Summary

Podcast Summary: Holmberg’s Morning Sickness – Arizona

Episode Title: 10-02-25 – Has Tony Romo Been Using Botox After His Face Appeared Off Sunday – Nicole Kidman And Keith Urban Are Divorcing…
Date: October 2, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo, Larry, Michelle

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Episode Overview

This episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness is a lively, irreverent breakdown of two major entertainment topics: the speculation surrounding Tony Romo’s altered facial appearance, and the dramatic and gossipy unraveling of Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban’s marriage—potentially due to Keith’s connection with 25-year-old country artist Maggie Baugh. The crew weaves in raucous jokes, pop culture references, and brutal honesty about celebrity life, marriage, and the pitfalls of attempting “normalcy” in the spotlight.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Tony Romo’s Face – Botox or Something Else?

Timestamps: 02:38–07:16, 09:50–10:45

• Holmberg launches into a routine about TV analyst and former NFL quarterback Tony Romo’s face looking strange on Sunday’s broadcast, pondering: is it Botox, fillers, or something else?
  • “Did you see his face on Sunday?...Beyond what’s normal. The right side of his head looks swollen. You know what it looked like to me? You know when movies depict a woman who's beat at home, then they show him the next day at work and she's covered in makeup and she's a little puffy...” (John Holmberg, 02:56)
• Crew riffs on possibilities: too much makeup, possible fillers, or even medication like Prednisone.
  • “When people's faces puff up, what is that puff? Prednisone.” (John Holmberg, 04:25)
  • “He doesn’t look healthy either. Like, his eyeballs look funny.” (John Holmberg, 05:02)
• Holmberg openly shares his own curiosity-based experience with Botox and fillers, dismisses paranoia about first-time use.
  • “Highly recommend Botox. It's great. It's fun. Don't overdo it.” (John Holmberg, 07:16)
• Hilariously likens trying Botox to watching Brokeback Mountain—don’t judge until you’ve tried or seen it.

2. The Brokeback Mountain Sidebar

Timestamps: 07:17–10:46

• The group briefly sidetracks into Brokeback Mountain (with plenty of irreverence), noting the infamous scene and how different cultures or AI might censor it.
  • “I would love to see the Chinese version of Brokeback Mountain where they eliminate all the gay stuff but they don’t cut it out. The movie stays exactly as it is, but AI refurbishes the storyline…” (John Holmberg, 10:45)

3. Nicole Kidman & Keith Urban’s Divorce – The Maggie Baugh Angle

Timestamps: 10:46–27:18

• The crew dishes the news that Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban are divorcing after 19 years, and rapidly turns to Maggie Baugh—the young country artist reported to have a strong on-stage rapport with Urban while touring.
  • “Keith Urban needs to calm down...You’re about to become the world’s most hated man by women because Maggie was born in the year 2000.” (John Holmberg, 13:27)
• John humorously "blames" Nicole for “letting” Keith go on tour with someone as young, attractive, and musically compatible as Maggie.
  • “You sent him on the road with Maggie. Oh, by the way, she's got all the same interests as me. Loves guitar, sings music. We have everything in common.” (John Holmberg, 14:06)
• The panel draws parallels to other celebrity infidelity/divorce stories (Ben Affleck/the nanny, Tiger Woods, Garth Brooks/Trisha Yearwood) and riffs on how proximity and temptation play out.
• “Men are weak,” John jokes, spinning a dog analogy:
  • “If you keep chicken on the ground, the dog's gonna eat the chicken...Every day I get to walk by chicken on the ground and still be a good dog...eventually gonna take a bite.” (John Holmberg, 23:50, 24:03)
• Warns: Women are about to hate Keith Urban, much like how fans turned on Bill Belichick over his recent romance.
  • “Keith is about to be the world’s most hated man by women...If he makes this a real...look at how mad women are at Bill Belichick. They didn’t even like him to begin with...this was the end of the world.” (John Holmberg, 25:04)
• Dives into why age-gap romances in celebrity culture stir up controversy, and how most men in that situation would eventually falter under prolonged “adoration” from someone young and attractive.

4. Celebrity Life vs. Normal Life—And Why Celebs Struggle

Timestamps: 27:18–39:44

• John emphasizes that celebrities live on a different plane—trying to force “normalcy” is futile and often leads to dysfunction (with Tiger Woods and Michael Jackson as case studies).
  • “They try to be humans. They're not. You've entered a different avenue of non-human behavior.” (John Holmberg, 37:14)
• Michael Jackson anecdote: Illustrates how even a pop star with endless resources sought ordinary experiences but couldn’t fit in, leading to bizarre and tragic outcomes.
  • “Odd people have to stay with odd people...Michael would just wander over and find kids at parks and try to normal.” (John Holmberg, 33:21, 33:28)
• Panel agrees celebrities should accept their unusual circumstances, rather than indulging in fantasies of being “like us.”

5. The Performer’s High and the Struggle to Return to Normal

Timestamps: 38:44–40:19

• The team describes the emotional gulf artists feel after performing for an adoring crowd and then coming back to “normal life.”
  • “If you've ever been on a stage and had an entire crowd love you...And then I had to go back to regular life like an hour later. And it was disappointing...I think that’s why so many performers turn to drugs and things like that.” (John Holmberg, 38:47)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You think I'd learned by now—after 10, whatever it is, if it's hunger, if it's something else, there's the eyebrow raiser and then it's great. It's like cliffhangers and TV. It's like he leaves us going, is he all right?” (John Holmberg on Brady's end-of-show ramblings, 02:13)
• “Highly recommend Botox. It's great, it's fun. Don't overdo it. Maybe once, twice a year if you decide to. I haven't done it for a long time. I did it for curiosity, you know…” (John Holmberg, 07:16)
• “You sent him on the road with Maggie…What do you love more in the world? There’s Maggie. And the first answer she gives is Keith Urban.” (John Holmberg, 14:06, 17:34)
• “If you keep chicken on the ground, the dog’s gonna eat the chicken.” (John Holmberg, 23:50)
• “They try to be humans. They're not. The problem is they try to make them like yours. They're just not.” (John Holmberg, 37:14)
• “If you've ever been on a stage and had an entire crowd love you...and then I had to go back to regular life like an hour later. And it was disappointing.” (John Holmberg, 38:47)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 00:22–02:36: Show open, team banter, and recurring joke about Brady’s “10 o’clock talk”
• 02:38–07:16: Tony Romo facial speculation and Botox/filler discussion
• 07:17–10:46: Botox and Brokeback Mountain—a wild analogy
• 10:46–27:18: Nicole Kidman & Keith Urban separation, Maggie Baugh theory, and discussion of celebrity relationships and temptations
• 27:18–39:44: Why celebrities can’t—nor should—try to be “normal”; Tiger Woods and Michael Jackson analogies
• 38:44–40:19: The loneliness of the performer’s life after the spotlight

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Takeaway

The episode is classic Morning Sickness: equal parts celebrity gossip, armchair psychology, honest (sometimes brutal) humor, and an exploration of how fame warps relationships and personal choices. The team mocks, psychoanalyzes, and ultimately sympathizes (a bit) with Tony Romo’s puffier cheeks, Keith Urban’s perilous midlife romance, and the strange, separate world inhabited by superstars. Listeners will come away laughing, a little shocked, and imagining Tony Romo and Keith Urban in very different (but equally awkward) positions.

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Transcript

[Larry]

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[Brady]

Still streaming Homberg's morning sickness [e-mail] Good morning everybody.

[John Holmberg]

Hello there. Welcome to Thursday the Morning Sickness. My name is John Holmberg. There's Brady, there's Brett. It's Big Dick Toledo. Brett's back. Good to see Brett again. Brett had a family emergency. Happened like at 9:30 yesterday. Bam. Ran out the door. We were worried, but it's all calmed down for now. More to come. I'm sure Brett's on the hotline right now. You never know when he's gonna have to dash out. So. Yeah. So you take care of you. We'll make sure everything's all right on your. Thank you. Basically saying, Brett, we've got this with or without you. We just prefer it when. We prefer it when you're here. But I mean totally, you can leave and we'd be just fine.

[Larry]

Larry, do you okay filling in for me?

[John Holmberg]

No, we wouldn't even have. No. Good lord, no. That's why we prefer you here. What's the matter with you? Are you crazy? That can't be every day. Although Larry did it when Brady started to not make sense at 10 o' clock or so, which is every day he doesn't know it. Larry actually said the phrase out loud and all these emails came in and he's going. Larry goes, oh, I get to actually see this happen in person. It's an awesome. We should charge admission, have like post 10 just for seven or eight minutes a day. Charge everybody like 15 bucks. We fill the studio and then Brady just goes for his 10 o' clock talk. And you're like, none of this is adding up. And then you just have it and it would be pretty great. I think people would pay a good amount of money to watch that in person. Because all the. All that. We were talking about it the other day. All of the.

[Brett]

It was rock Wars.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, but all.

[Brett]

There's a tail end.

[John Holmberg]

Yes, but the. Then you started to tell. It was very contradictory and strange. Yeah, but.

[Brett]

Well, because I have to defend my song.

[John Holmberg]

No, no, it was after. It was during entertainment drove. It was actually the end of the show when you started to not make sense. Cuz it was 10 o'. Clock. Everything had made sense up to that point. All of the clips that we have of Brady saying something silly, usually right around 10 o' clock, it was very strange. I'm like, you think I learned by.

[Brett]

Now it Wasn't a warms up.

[Larry]

It wasn't like.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, we don't want you to stop, like to. To stifle yourself. I know, but you, you have to realize sometimes after 10, whatever it is, if it's hunger, if it's something else, there's the eyebrow razor and then it's great. It's like cliffhangers and tv. It's like he leaves us going, is he all right? Will he be back tomorrow? Tune in and find out.

[Larry]

And a very special hms.

[John Holmberg]

You think something might be wrong with Brady every once in a while. And everybody does. We don't think it. We. We know. I'm glad. I feel like I was being strange over the weekend for Tony Romo, but now today I see that there's like a bunch of people wondering what's going on with it. Did you see his face on Sunday?

[Brett]

No.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know what's going on with Tony Romo, but like, what happened to his face? I couldn't tell if it was Botox. He's got loads of makeup on. Beyond what's normal. The right side of his head looks swollen. You know what it looked like to me? You know when movies depict a woman who's beat at home, then they show him like the next day at work and she's covered in makeup and she's a little puffy and people like, sealer, is everything okay?

[Michelle]

Cecilia.

[John Holmberg]

It's a good name. Oh, yeah. His face is fillers.

[Brett]

Is he going with fillers?

[John Holmberg]

No, fillers. Fillers make you look better. Like they know they do. If you abuse it. This isn't different. Like, fillers are a thing when you put in, they're like people again. You can still, if you're first, go, not necessarily. I've done it. Did you know I knew you did Botox because I told you, but did you know I did fillers just for fun? So you don't know it makes. It actually works. This was a year and a half ago, but I didn't.

[Brett]

I didn't notice, like, hey, you look really good.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. When you were trying to make out with me all the time, I'm like, dude, these are worse.

[Brett]

The fillers.

[John Holmberg]

It was the fillers. Trust me. I just want to touch your face. That's all I heard for weeks. His face got weird in a week. Holy John Jay. But it wasn't. I don't. Because I was thinking that to him, like, oh, he over botoxed, but he was moving his eyebrows and stuff. And I've done that too, just to See what it's like. And you can't move.

[Brett]

It's a John Jay.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know what it is. I don't believe so, because I've been through this. Everybody always says, oh, it's this that I've done. His face moved.

[Brett]

Maybe it's a Tony Romo double what.

[John Holmberg]

I think it is. This, to me, doesn't look like facial procedures. This looks like he's on some sort of weird medication. We're not talking about it. When people's faces puff up, what is that puff? Prednisone. Gets that. Yeah. And if you overdo that, because Botox will do weird stuff to you. But your face. I've done it. Your face doesn't budge. I did it because. What. Look, what's the harm for me to start messing with my face? There's none. It can't get any worse. And if it does, it gets funnier. So I don't care. Tony Romo's a handsome fella.

[Larry]

His hands even look swollen in that picture.

[John Holmberg]

And I remember watching, just going, something's wrong with Tony Romo. At first I thought, oh, my God, he's gone nuts. He's Botoxed. That's a different face, right? The pre face post. So I was sitting there thinking it myself, and then I saw a bunch of stories today. It's like, Tony Romo is now unrecognizable. That isn't Botox. That is. He's on something that's making. So now my speculation runs to what disease does he have or what procedure is he going through? Because that is a. He doesn't look healthy either. Like, his eyeballs look funny.

[Brett]

It's a little thicker.

[John Holmberg]

Baby. That's definitely not from that. It's like.

[Larry]

That's. That's.

[John Holmberg]

The makeup tells me.

[Brett]

Is that the same day?

[Larry]

No, I think that. No, that's.

[John Holmberg]

That's him saying, that looks like it's not fat. He's wearing so much makeup. There's. He's covering something. Something's going on. Now I'm. You know, and I got to like Tony Romo quite a bit. Hated him as a cowboy hate, obviously, you know, but yes, hands looked funny. Everything about him looked unhealthy. And it got to. Got to get him. And I just thought I was being kind of a, you know, a prick, just judgmental prick. But I'm used to that. That's what I do. And then I started to see all these other stuff that it was more than just Botox. It was because his face was moving. Because the next time they showed him, I'm like, he didn't Botox. His eyebrows are jumping around.

[Larry]

Oh, they're moving there.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett]

That one looks. I mean, you know, of course that's going off of that one picture.

[John Holmberg]

If you watched it, you'd have seen what I saw. And that one, I'm just glad I didn't. That it was not just me. Like, news stories are covering this. It's a strange.

[Larry]

Oh, I type in Tony Romo's face. The top four stories are about.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah. I blew up, like, last night, and I'm like, oh, good. It wasn't just me being, like, a weirdo.

[Brett]

Was he on the phone with Simon Cowell?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Well, Simon Cowell is Botox. Simon Cowell has got droop eye from Botox. I've done Botox. It's fun. Everybody should try a little bit of Botox. It's kind of fun. If you go to the lengths of, like, facelifts and eye lifts and things like that, then you start John Jaying.

[Larry]

Yeah, that's. That's the whole thing.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I don't look like John Jay. No, no. And that's usually when somebody, like, lifts their eyebrows and, like, get that Halloween mask thing going on. And then you start doing fillers to make good for what you're trying to fix what you didn't like about the last thing, and then it's the avalanche.

[Larry]

Start looking like Reba.

[John Holmberg]

I did. Yeah, Reba. It's just a puppet face. But I get. Yeah, I did the Botox. Just like, let's see what this does. And actually, to be honest with you, never get a headache again. I was getting, like, headaches and stuff. And it cures you from all headaches. Migraines. If you're a migraine person, go, freeze it up. It's great. But, yeah, fillers were for some. For a lot of people, it, like, works. Headaches go away completely. That's what it, you know, fixes it. I mean, but if you overdo anything, obviously. But, yeah, I did it. It was fine. But I just noticed they're like, wow, I can't lift my eyes. I can't do anything. It was weird. And then, yeah, fillers were just like, let's see what we can do with that. And they popped them in there, and nobody notices. Everybody thinks, oh, you get that. Nobody knew. Nobody knew a thing. But you notice little subtleties in the mirror for yourself. And I go, okay. Like, I don't have as drawn in a look. My eyes look more aware, not necessarily that you look better, but you do notice a massive difference. The next couple days you're like, oh, wow, this stuff works. But everybody's like, oh, you did that. You immediately turn into John. It's like the meth commercials. You do it once and you turn into this scabby weirdo. It's like. And then you meet a person who's been doing meth for eight years and they're kind of fucking fat. Like the ads lie. Highly recommend Botox. It's great, it's fun. Don't overdo it. Maybe once, twice a year if you decide to. I haven't done it for a long time. I did it for curiosity, you know, it's like seeing Brokeback Mountain, everybody. I'm not watching that. It's bad. I'm like, what if it's a great movie? You don't know. Ah, can't be. I'm like, I'll go see, I'll let you know. It's not my, you know, lifestyle to choose or even try to understand frankly. It was a beautiful movie until Heath Ledger spit in the palm of his hand and rubbed it on Jake Gyllenhaal's bottom and they started to do it in a tent. That was a little rough for me. That's a real scene, by the way. And some people just never saw it and then had a, had a, had an opinion about whether or not it was a good movie. You can't do that. It's a weird, definitely an avenue, you know. But I also don't understand space travel, but I'll go watch a space travel movie I never batted an eye at. When William Shatner makes out with some green person. That's probably some interstellar, interspecies love. Yeah. So I, you know, you can find that to be strange. I, I was strangely turned on by Natiri from avatar. She's like 14ft tall, blue, and should have been having sex with a human being. That's just against nature, I think, but I enjoyed that. So I'm watching Jake Gyllenhaal and I was surprised in Brokeback Mountain how many sexy, hot sex scenes there were with the girls.

[Brady]

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[John Holmberg]

Michelle Williams gets naked. The bug eyed lady gets naked. I forgot her name. Anne Hathaway. She gets naked. Wait, in which movie? Brokeback Mountain.

[Larry]

Oh man.

[John Holmberg]

Well, you know, see in there, it's a beautiful film about love.

[Brady]

It is.

[John Holmberg]

And you can with that. Oh, and I'LL tell you this. Heath Ledger is Marlon Brando in this thing. His performance is unbelievable until he spits in the palm of his hands and rubs it on the guy's butt in the tent. I mean, that is the one where guys are like, all right, I'm trying as hard as I can.

[Larry]

What's the Chinese AI version? Weren't they eliminating all that stuff with AI now?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, they could do that.

[Larry]

I'll get my video from China.

[John Holmberg]

Strong back mountain. Yeah, yeah, they do. AI. AI can fix. Fix a movie's gay scene.

[Brett]

It turns into a short.

[John Holmberg]

I know. Look, I'll tell you this. I don't know how they fix that. I don't know how it makes it so that scene is relevant. And they change all the dialogue and stuff in it to make that spitting in the. I think they make it just a medical procedure. That's all. That's the only way you could. I would love to see the Chinese version of Brokeback Mountain where they eliminate all the gay stuff, but they don't cut it out. The movie stays exactly as it is, but AI refurbishes the storyline to make what you're seeing make sense. But that them making out and stuff, they just might make it mouth to mouth or something. I don't know. Very strange. Speaking of filler and Botox, I am. I'm all in on this Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman thing. And I'll tell you right now, Keith Urban needs to calm down. Because if you haven't heard yet and I know, brace yourselves. Australia's sweethearts Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban have called it quits after 19 years. They've evidently been separated since, like, April. Living separate. She and Keith both announced that they are now going to get divorced. She filed for divorce the day after they announced that they'd been separated. Now everybody's like, well, what happened? Like, they seem so happy. And I don't like country music, but Keith Urban can play the hell out of the guitar. I've watched him a couple times. They're like, dude, you. He could have been, in my opinion, one of rock's best guitar player. I watched him do solos on. I think it was the hall of Fame. And I'm like, he's better than everybody on stage. And on stage was Slash. I think that was the one with. It wasn't with Prince, but it was somebody else. And Keith Urban went up and stole the show. And I'm like, that dude can rail a guitar. He was great. So I'm like, all right. So I Kind of had this admiration for Keith Urban's abilities, even though he does country music. And they're just immediately off on it. So everybody's trying to figure out what's going on. So they've been rehashing tapes of Keith Urban in concert. And there's this girl named Maggie that he's been in concert lately, looking at, going, saying things like, I was born to love you. And pointing to her. Oh, and then like, he'll play and she'll sing. And he's like, I've always got your back, Maggie. And he's changing the lyrics of his song for Maggie. And so I looked her up. Her name's Maggie Baugh. B A u G h. And I realized right then that Keith and Maggie have a chemistry that is undeniable. And this is. I know everybody's gonna. This is dangerous. Keith Urban, you're about to become like. Women loved Keith Urban. He's 57 years old. He's about to become the world's most hated man by women because Maggie was born in the year 2000.

[Larry]

Nice kill, kid.

[John Holmberg]

I see now this is going to make men like. But he's got to tone it down a little bit. And also, ladies, you're going to hate this. Everything that you see happening with Maggie and Keith, it's Nicole's fault. Yeah. I'll tell you why. Keith Urban is at home, everything's going well.

[Michelle]

And his wife said, so you're touring this year, Keith?

[John Holmberg]

And Keith goes, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Michelle]

Who you going out with?

[John Holmberg]

We've got this new girl called Maggie. She's tagging along.

[Michelle]

Yeah. How old is Maggie?

[John Holmberg]

23.

[Michelle]

Yeah. What's Maggie look like?

[John Holmberg]

Stacked on top, little tiny waist, great ass, long, long brunette hair.

[Michelle]

Alright, have fun.

[John Holmberg]

And you sent him on the road with Maggie. Oh, by the way, she's got all the same interest as me. Loves guitar, sings music. We have everything in common.

[Michelle]

Off you go then.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, boy. She allowed it. And also she's like, I'm leaving for.

[Michelle]

Three months to film a movie. We won't see me for 90 days. Hold off till I get back.

[John Holmberg]

You bet. Meanwhile, they both did that a lot. Is dancing around him on stage. Brett brought up the pictures. Nice. And she loves playing guitar. And you know who her influences are? Keith Urban. This is a dream come true for Maggie Baugh. You cannot leave people like this alone for an entire summer or year and expect them to come back without some like that's look, it's like going on there.

[Brett]

The movie set. Nicole would know that. That how many Actors would get together, and they're filming for six months.

[John Holmberg]

Right. But bottom line is, at least in the movie set, Keith knows where she is every day and can show up, pop by, see what's going on. This dude is in a different city every night with a fan that loves him, who is now super talented and also on tour and plays guitar just as well as him and looks up to him. You can't have that. You can't have it. Yeah. Here comes the leader to take a gander at Maggie. Bo. All women are gonna hate Keith Urban.

[Brett]

Is she.

[John Holmberg]

She's part of that new show he's on called Road. Yes. Yep. So that's where they met. Yep. Oh, they've been together. She's been touring with. Yes. Oh, they're. And now he's. Now he can't help but, like, in the. Sorry, everybody. Got to break out of this hit song. You all know to look at Maggie. I was born to love you. I was born to lick your face. And the crowd's like, I'll finish. I'll finish it up for you. Brett. I didn't know I was born to rub you. But you were born to rub me first. Let's go to the bedroom. Yeah. This is bad for everyone, including all member Ben Affleck and. And then. I know. And the nanny that came in, you're like, ben Affleck's an asshole. And then you saw a picture of a nanny and like, why did he. What the hell were they thinking hiring her? You can't have that in the house. It's like being on a diet forever. And whoever does the shopping keeps bringing in cookies.

[Brett]

It was fortunate for the pro golfer Jasper Parnevic.

[John Holmberg]

Yes.

[Brett]

Nanny was Ellen Nordegan.

[John Holmberg]

You might have heard of her.

[Brett]

Married Tiger Woods.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Later, after Jasper's wife's like, what the hell's the gorgeous Tiger? Get her out of this house. And then Jasper said, you can't stay here anymore. Here's my friend Tiger. And Tiger's like, I'll take it. And Tiger, she was so alluring. Tiger married her. Yeah. Maggie likes taking pictures of herself in real small pants.

[Larry]

I agree with her choices myself.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, she looks great. But you could Mathias not letting her do the yard work. No, no. You can't have that hanging around the house. This is Nicole Kidman's fault. Men are weak.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Larry]

Matthias not letting that happen.

[John Holmberg]

No one should allow that to wander around.

[Larry]

Michelle from the west side or something over those.

[John Holmberg]

And also, she's like, so what do you love more in the world? There's Maggie. And the first answer she gives is Keith Urban. Like that was before all this went down. She loved Keith Urban going into the party.

[Michelle]

You should tour with my husband every day in small quarters and do things you both love very much. Well, find out if you've got chemistry.

[John Holmberg]

Great idea. 24. Kind of dumb. Need you to show her the ropes. And she idolizes you. This is the fault of Nicole Kidman. Keith Urban's an idiot because, you know.

[Brett]

Oh, is he though?

[John Holmberg]

Well, I mean, it's hard to say that, but yes. Really? Yes, he is. Okay, stop showing pictures of that. Nicole Kimming's a beautiful woman, but also.

[Larry]

How old is she?

[John Holmberg]

Here's. All right, that's. No, you're causing trouble. You're just causing trouble. Here's the problem is the. We don't know their situation. Maybe Nicole and hate each other.

[Brett]

Wasn't years ago when they first got together didn't. What they're saying, like it's an arrangement that there's no.

[John Holmberg]

That was Tom Cruise, Nicole. When Tom.

[Brett]

Nicole Kidman kind of went through that whole face. And then I heard that about Keith Urban, I thought there was something.

[John Holmberg]

I always thought they were a magic couple. Perfect, perfectly matched, you know. But you don't know that. It's all our perceptions. Maybe they. All right there. She's in bikinis. Knock it off. She's, you know, you don't know. They. They might hate each other. We don't know their story, but everybody's speculating. And there's the thing. Melanie, you make a good point. If you've seen that most recent movie that Nicole Kidman did where she was the. She's the CEO of that company and then she hires this like 20 year old boy and it turns into. She becomes his sex slave and they're boning like crazy in that thing, you know, Keith has to sit and watch that and go, great job, honey. You know, if you went to your wife's work and part of it was to get naked and have some dude dry hump your wife for hours on end and. And that's like art.

[Brett]

That's what he tells her when he's on the road.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly. Right. Come on, Nicole. It's for the show.

[Michelle]

You've been in the trailer too.

[John Holmberg]

We've got. We've got to rehearse.

[Brett]

It sells tickets.

[John Holmberg]

People like it when they think something's happening. They see the chemistry. We can't deny it.

[Michelle]

I guess that's true.

[John Holmberg]

Now you go hump that boy over there at work and I'll do my work. Problem is, Keith got too lovey dovey. Yeah. You know Keith. And this is like, this isn't. You know, Keith started pointing at her on stage, saying how he loves her and stuff. And that's. But that was after the separation. Oh, this is intriguing. It's just intriguing. Can't get enough of it.

[Brady]

Holmberg's morning sickness.

[John Holmberg]

But yeah, no matter what happens here, you know, being the lead story on TMZ when there's so much going on in the world, basically saying Keith Urban keeps talking to this girl in the middle of the concert about how, much, like, she means to him. I was born to love you. And he's pointing to her, and then you look her up and you're like, oh, boy. This was. This was cocaine and a coat. Plus, by the way, Keith Urban didn't get into music years and years ago to be, you know, a settled daddy. I mean, that's a bad thing to say, but it's true. So deep down inside of him, part of that rock star mentality still lives of like, I can't help it. Like, I'm 19 years. My life is a party, and if it starts becoming a party again, I'm gonna slip into bad things. It's. It's. It's volatile is what I'm saying. It's a volatile situation. The whole point is to try to keep yourself out of those deals. And then, you know, it's encouraged. Oh, it's bad. It's bad.

[Larry]

She didn't hoard as much as I thought. She's not like JLo, just jumping all, oh, Nicole, Nicole.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. No, no, she's been. I mean, they're both reasonable human beings.

[Larry]

Tom Cruise, Lenny Kravitz, Keith Urban.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it's bad news. You can't start doing that stuff. But we don't know their situation at home. Maybe they just stop liking each other. Maybe they like each other. But it's like, man, what are you gonna do?

[Brett]

You got their family, got their.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you got that whole thing kind of trapped is what you're saying. You got all those people running around the house you're responsible for. It's like, it's easier to stick around, and I don't know what to do. And then she's like, off you go.

[Michelle]

Then with the incredibly hot girl born.

[John Holmberg]

During the second Bush administration. Yeah, I'll go out. I'll come back. Fine. I don't even see a problem here. But then he just got wrapped up in the idea that his life became a party again. Things at home Weren't exact. He hadn't been home in seven months. It's bad news. And you're supposed to be better than that. But we all know deep down, superstars struggle already with adoring fans. Now, you take one that likes showing her ass to people, put her on stage, and, like, start hanging out with her every day.

[Brett]

Superstar or not, you're at work, you're relating with someone.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, and if your work gets too tight and it's every day, and then you have to go in the. Like, it's horrifying.

[Larry]

Maybe Nicole's just a nag or something. I mean, you know, or that runs out on tour all the time. He's at American Idol all the time. He don't want to at home.

[John Holmberg]

You were overly influenced by the Sopranos, but you don't know.

[Michelle]

Maybe she was just a nag. Maybe he just needed to get always.

[Brett]

The broad it is.

[John Holmberg]

Well, in this particular case, that's true. He was a terrible behavior problem. But again, dogs love tearing up stuff. And if you don't tell them, hey, if you. If you. If you keep chicken on the ground, the dog's going to eat the chicken. As good as he may be about not eating off the table, if you put chicken on the ground, the dog's going to be a dog again. Patrice o', Neill, part of the reason you liked us when we first started dating, because you knew I had the ability to, quote, catch fish. And then when we get together, you want me to sell my boat.

[Michelle]

What do you need a boat for? You got a fish now.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but you won't like me if you don't think I can still catch fish. I have to be a viable member of society. That's part of it. If I let myself slob out and no fish want to get on my line anymore, suddenly you're not going to be interested in order to still be interesting to you. And same with women. That's why they work so hard and compete with other women. Oh, it's a slippery, slippery slope. It's ugly. I tells you. Best thing to do. Isolate. Never talk to anyone ever again.

[Brett]

Buy a farm.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, buy a farm. Get a lot of land. I think that's why men want that. Keeps them out of trouble. I just want acreage. I want to live in a. I want to live in the woods with acres and lakes and deer and stuff like that. I can't be around people too much because I'll become a dumb dog again. We're dumb dogs. We're very dumb dogs. But you know, we behave really well. Well, someone leaves chicken on the ground, and every day I get to walk by chicken on the ground and still be a good dog. The person leaving the chicken on the ground for three months isn't home eventually gonna take a bite of that chicken. But Keith, Keith is the one thing I'm getting to with this. Keith is about to be the world's most hated man by women. As big as his fan base was with women, if he makes this a real look at how mad women are at Bill Belichick. They didn't even like him to begin with. This was the end of the world. And you read he's a pig. Like, why can't he have fun? Like what? He's not doing anything wrong.

[Michelle]

She's a child.

[John Holmberg]

No, she's an adult. Brett's just nodding affirmative. She sure is. She's a young one. But they got mad at him. They don't like that.

[Larry]

Why they didn't like him to begin with.

[John Holmberg]

Who cares? They hate each other.

[Brett]

You got a combination of saying the women hate him and the guys are like, she's a succubus.

[John Holmberg]

She is sort of a succubus. And we all know why. Like, we're like, this is the coach look. Men look at Bill Belichick and go, that is a cautionary tale. Because this dude is no longer this. That's Colin Coward's greatest quote is Bill Belichick today would get fired by Bill Belichick 5 years ago. This is not a dude he would want in his life. Distracted, got chicks laying on the sidelines. But it is a cautionary tale to go, oh, they can still hypnotize you in your 70s. It's dangerous. They're scary.

[Brett]

He missed the step. He needed to go. If that's going to happen, you go buy your acreage.

[John Holmberg]

It's her acreage. Don't coach anything. People are going to see the old you acting like this new you and realize you're under some sort of spell. Ladies don't realize that you can cast spells on us. And Brett, back to your point, they don't like each other. So they, you know, the women, especially Bill Belichick's age, 60 year old women looking at this girl and like, oh, that's my competition. I hate her.

[Larry]

Game over.

[John Holmberg]

Game over. They know guys are the same way, but chicks are a little stronger about leaving for the 20 year old Diegos. They make movies about it and then they just draw the line because they see past it. They see like, oh, he's an Idiot. I'm not gonna want to spend time with him. The pool boy's a moron. Maybe he's hot, but he's an idiot. Dudes can't do that. Keith Urban, you're about to be the most hated man in all of entertainment. If in fact you are bound in this 24 year old chick. 57 and 24. Oh, and we're all smiling a little bit, but I can see the. You gotta look past that initial like holy cow, that's great. And see the dangers that come with that later. That is 33 years women are gonna end. Look, it's reasonable. He's a 57 year old dude who's had a party his whole life. He never got to be real. 57. But we try to equate our lives to his. You can't. He's living life like he's 30 every day.

[Brett]

How long has that been going on in Hollywood?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, forever. Not just Hollywood. Not just Hollywood. Well, but any sort of success, publicized. Any sort of success. If I was a 24 year old woman, you think I'm gonna waste time with a 25 year old guy? Have you met those? They're a disaster. If I'm 24, I'm looking around going, who's established that can make my life easier? Because these guys my age are going to make everything really hard. I got. They have the power to say to themselves, if I don't want to work, I don't have to. That's the avenue I'm taking. That is. I don't know why that's a thing. Tamara says Garth Brooks did the same. Same thing. He was hated for a long time because he left Trisha Yearwood, who he was torn with. I forgot about that. And he was. Yeah, that's right.

[Larry]

Aren't they still together though, or.

[John Holmberg]

I don't think so, no. I think in that documentary Garth made about himself, which was just awful and weird, where he would cry, talking about all of him, his accomplishments, like nobody was prompted.

[Brett]

And then I thought, Trisha, I thought Garth had a wife before that.

[John Holmberg]

Wasn't that. Yeah, wasn't that. No, that was what. That's what she's talking about. He left his wife for Trisha Yearwood. They're. They're still married.

[Larry]

Yeah, that's right.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah, I got the names backwards. Yeah. He was with some lady who was like everything to a manager, married early, took care of everything. She was there and then Trisha Yearwood and him were on stage. It's like undeniable. She got paid the wife?

[Larry]

Yeah, she's okay. They're married till 2001. During his heyday.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, she got. She got paid. Yeah. And also. But. But average woman can't see that. Average woman sees the dog was horrible. You're right. Garth Brooks ex wife might be like, it's actually better. Like, this is awesome. I got the money and everything else. And off he goes with Trisha Yearwood. But average woman sees that he abandoned his rock. You know, the Billy Joel documentary was the same thing. It's like this woman that was with him and took care of him did everything right. He started treating her poorly. And they get mad at Billy, but just happened like, his lifestyle isn't like ours. Tiger woods is the most misunderstood man in the world. And it's so easy to diagnose because everybody tried to make Tiger normal. And Tiger needed someone in his life. Just saying, dude, you're not normal. Don't. Don't do what you think you need to do. Don't be Brady and have the wife and the kid and everything because your life's not normal. It's going to be awful. If you try to be normal, you're just not. So accept that you're not. And do things that people aren't normal. Don't try to act like you're a family man. It just has a normal life and a cup. It's just going to get weird because that's not you. And what did he do? Freaked out, acted up. Like, I can't be this normal guy. It's. That's. I'm just not Hol.

[Brady]

Morning sickness. Holg's morning sickness.

[Brett]

I remember Earl wasn't there to help him out, how to go about doing it right.

[John Holmberg]

I remember the picture I saw with Tiger woods, and I'm like, oh, no. It was like an Olin Hills shot where he was laying on his side on his elbow across, and his Charlie, his son was right in front of him and his daughter was there. And Elon's sitting crisscross applesauce right behind him in front of a sign that said, like, woods love or something stupid. And I'm like, oh, God, they're trying to be like us. This is going to backfire bad. I don't know how, but this is going to end ugly. I didn't see what happened happening. I just knew that wasn't going to work because Tiger's pretending to have a life and stamp down the thing that he's trying not to be, which is just undeniably nuts. There's stuff like that those pictures a couple. And look at the backdrop. That is a 72 shot at some of. He didn't have that done at a.

[Michelle]

Elon's like, we need family photos.

[John Holmberg]

And he's like, all right, we'll get.

[Michelle]

The dogs licking Charlie in the face. Oh, it's gonna be so much fun.

[John Holmberg]

And it was just some family shot that you would see in your annoying Gilbert neighbor's hallway. And tiger trying to normalize. He wasn't normal. What he needed to do was dress up as a king and have some have eland licking his feet while the kids swept up behind him. Like, I'm not normal. I have to embrace the fact that I am not a normal man. Remember what happened with Michael Jackson? All he wanted was to be a normal smelly child. Stinky. Yeah, Lionel called him smelly. All he wanted to do was be a stinky like child. And he had that taken away. So as an adult, every chance he got, he'd escape his life and go hang out in suburbia with kids. Because all the dude wanted was just that. And nobody got in his corner and said, you're just not normal, dude. You're just not normal. We cannot drop you off.

[Brett]

You're going to an amusement park. You have to shut it down. You have to buy it out, practice.

[John Holmberg]

Drop you off in Van nuys at some 13 year old boy's house for video game night. We can't do that. You need to hang out with other weirdos like yourself who are super famous and odd and then just like play video games with them.

[Larry]

So he invited Feldman to the house.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that's the problem. He started invited kids over.

[Michelle]

He's like, I'm just a normal boy.

[John Holmberg]

Like, you're not though. And somebody's getting your head that this is just. You're unusual. And what are we gonna do?

[Brett]

Well, I built an amusement park.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, I'm a zoo. I do think people like. But that was bait. Yeah. What he needed to have was other weirdos from other countries like him who are in their 40s and stuff with an astronomical amount of money to look at each other and go, we're on our own planet. You can't go over to like Brett's neighborhood, knock on doors, I want to.

[Michelle]

Play with your children.

[John Holmberg]

Because that's what Michael was doing. Instead of going to like Austria and.

[Michelle]

Say, who's the richest weirdo here?

[John Holmberg]

Like, oh, it's that guy over there.

[Michelle]

All right, he can come over.

[John Holmberg]

And then you just gaggle up the weirdos and have them be weirdos. Together. And then when they start, you know, boning each other, it was like, of course they're weirdos. They're at least they're sticking to their own. But Michael, that documentary where Michael just wandered into neighborhoods.

[Michelle]

You kids playing football and you.

[John Holmberg]

Are you Michael Jackson? Shh.

[Michelle]

I'm in a T shirt and jeans. No one will know. I want to play Nerf football with.

[Brett]

The kids that I've been wearing for days.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. And he would just. Yeah, you're in on that. The. That he just. He would just wander over and find kids at parks and try to normal. And then he got his face done to the point where he was. It was impossible not to recognize Michael Jackson. Kids would run, cool, cool.

[Michelle]

I just want to play Nerf football.

[John Holmberg]

And then he's like, well, I just.

[Michelle]

Have to start showing up at their houses.

[John Holmberg]

And then that one family's like, all right, remember the pictures in the documentary of Michael just sitting there in a T shirt and jeans inside that weird, you know, 1800 square foot house of normalcy. And what. What do you remember about that? Jesus Christ. That look crazy. Michael Jackson sitting in a regular house. That doesn't add up. Something bad's gonna happen here. Odd people have to stay with odd people. They can't show. Like, if Michael Jackson was at Brady's house, your house would look weird. It would just not be a normal home anymore. And it's not the stardom, it's the strangeness of him being in it. And then you wonder, why aren't we at Michael Jackson? If you know Michael Jackson, why are we at your kid's birthday party? And he's here. Let's go to his house. Let's. Let's make his normal, like our unusual. We can't. He can muck up a 2,000 square foot house just by being in it.

[Michelle]

Hi, you guys. Where's your bathroom?

[John Holmberg]

It's like, is this.

[Michelle]

How many do you have? 30 or 42?

[John Holmberg]

We got two. Like most people. I got two.

[Michelle]

I have 30, right?

[John Holmberg]

Stop talking about my house. Just Michael, leave.

[Larry]

That's creepy.

[Michelle]

Yeah, I got 35 bathrooms in my one house.

[John Holmberg]

Like, that seems excessive.

[Michelle]

Well, you never know when you're gonna have to go pee. Pee. And the one bedroom is a mile from the other. Where's your house end?

[John Holmberg]

Right there. You see that wall? That's it. That's the end of it.

[Michelle]

Oh, my God.

[John Holmberg]

And there he is in that kid's house. It's just not normal.

[Brett]

It's one of us.

[Michelle]

When you say you have two bathrooms that's just on this floor. I assume there's like a basement that's over a billion square feet.

[John Holmberg]

No, Michael, this is it.

[Michelle]

How come your kitchen's in your living room?

[John Holmberg]

It's called an open concept. Like, this is a. This is. It's a nice house. You son of a bitch.

[Michelle]

My kitchen is its own house.

[John Holmberg]

Get out. Go away.

[Larry]

Look at these.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And then the pictures of him with that boy. He was going to that kid's house. Tell you what. Keith Urban is about to be the most hated man in the world. All those lady fans that used to swoon over Keith and the possibilities.

[Michelle]

And he's Nicole Kidman. And I love her. They're just so.

[John Holmberg]

They had their perception of, like their power couple and it was working. And I like Nicole on that show on hbo. And she's a. She's a bad bitch in that movie where she's. Oh, she's just taken over by the young boy. She's. And then suddenly Keith Urban stomps on her. Now she's a victim. He's trolling around with some 24 year old, making it out loud. He can't make it out loud. Can't do that. Terrible, terrible story that I am so. I'm so in. Yesterday, Heather and I downstairs were all over this because Heather's like, oh, he's a jerk. He's been like, you don't know that. He started talking about this girl after they got separated. Oh, you know the truth, I'm like, this is what I love about normal people, is that we look at their lives and we think, we know. We don't know anything.

[Brett]

He stuck with her all through the porcelain doll phase.

[John Holmberg]

And he did too, though. Take a look at him. He got a little strange looking. I was convinced for a while when he was coaching that American Idol that his hair was made by Jim Henson's Creations. I don't know what he was doing.

[Larry]

Like, beaker hair.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he did. Yeah, he was beaker for a minute. Any kind of normal. They both did. They found a doctor that normal them up. Like Lindsay Lohan. Remember Lindsay Lohan for a few years? Like, oh, my God, and now she looks good again. She got that billionaire husband. You'll have to find the bet because you're starting to look like a foot.

[Michelle]

You think?

[John Holmberg]

And then you put her. And now she's in those new commercials. Like, Lindsay looks fantastic. She looked like Ann Margaret. Now, about five years ago, I was like, when did Lindsay Lohan turn 64? And now she looks her age again. She Looks good. And Keith and Nicole went through that same thing. Now Tony Romo's doing it or he's dying. One of the two. Something's wrong with Tony Romney. Grandma. Oh, what a morning. Looking around, speculating as you put your hard hat and your vest on to go to work and wonder how their lives are just like yours. They're not. The problem is they try to make them like yours. They're just not. They try to be humans. They're not. You've entered a different avenue of non human behavior. It's hard enough. You know, that was the Dave Grohl thing. Remember when Grohler was like, what a dick. And he was a dick. He did a dick move. But every night Dave Grohl went on stage in front of 20,000 people who love him, went off stage to anything he wanted was his, and forever, however long he did that, nobody said a thing about it. There are not many people on the planet. People won't like hearing this. There are not many people on the planet who won't succumb to that eventually. You have to ground that all the time. And it's nearly impossible when you're around that all the time and it's just adoring. Oh, my God. Exactly. It's terrible.

[Brett]

You entertain it when you put yourself in front of that.

[John Holmberg]

Can't imagine setting yourself up. Yep. And if you've ever been on a stage and had an entire crowd love you. Since I was with Adam Carolla one night and it was a great night on stage. I mean, a great night. I don't know what it was going on. The energy in the room was incredible. Carola and I both admit afterwards, he goes, that was great jazz. And I'm like, that was a blast. The crowd was nuts. I left like I was on cocaine. My body was buzzing. And then I had to go back to regular life like an hour later. And it was disappointing. Like, that can't last. Like, you need that. The performer's high. And then, you know, after a while, I don't think you can get used to it. I think that's why so many performers turn to drugs and things like that. It's like, I can't feel normal. Like, I don't like this. Strange comedians are all effed up because for an hour and a half a night, everyone loves them. And then afterwards, no one does.

[Brett]

Looking for that normal. And they still can't find.

[John Holmberg]

Oh. Because they're trying to make sense of the. The difference in their life to everybody else's. They see everybody else like walking around being normal. How come I can't find that? Oh, it's crazy. Keith Urban. Stop pointing at that hot girl on stage and saying you were born to love her. If you're gonna do the Chevy Chase song, do it. Oh, yeah. I was born to lick your face. Urban Kidman. What a story. I'm all in. I should work at tmz. I hate those people. But it is fun. Let's get a wake up song. Five eight five nine, eight hundred. A good one. We'll scream it together. It's 98 KVD. Wake up.

[Brady]

Arizona's most powerful rock radio station. He said fully erected.