10-07-25 - Trip Got In John's Head Telling Him He Sounds Different Than During Best Ofs - John Farted In Presence Of His Rental Neighbor - UFO Rabbit Hole For John After Reading DNA Abductions Study - Remembering Legend City As AZ Repub Stops Printing...

Summary

Holmberg's Morning Sickness – October 7, 2025

Episode Theme: Self-Doubt, Alien DNA, Farts, Nostalgia, and the End of Print Newspapers in Arizona

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Overview

In this lively episode, John Holmberg hosts without Brady, who’s visiting family. The crew—John, Brett, Katrina, and Toledo—delve into topics ranging from John’s newfound insecurity about the tone of his voice, bizarre neighborhood encounters (including a truly awkward fart), UFO abduction rabbit holes, Arizona nostalgia (RIP, Legend City), and the end of an era as the Arizona Republic ceases local printing. The tone is fast, irreverent, and peppered with humor, self-deprecation, and Arizona-specific lore.

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Key Topics & Discussion Highlights

1. Tripp Gets In John’s Head About His Voice

Timestamps: 00:39 – 05:41

• Summary: John recounts a meeting with Tripp, who tells him he sounds different "now" compared to previous show tapes. This throws John into a spiral of self-consciousness about his on-air persona and voice.
  • John jokes about "sounding old" and feeling like Imus in his later years.
  • The crew discusses technical differences (compression, microphones, old cassette tapes) possibly altering their sound on air.
  • Nostalgia for earlier show days, with listeners and colleagues noting John's voice has changed over time.

"Tripp sat down with me... he goes, 'You sound... I don't know, your voice is deeper and you've kind of just mellowed.' And so now I'm like, thinking, well, what did I sound like? What do I sound like now?"
— John, 00:39

• They riff on "KISS 1230" DJ voices and lament being compared to old radio personalities.

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2. Awkward Neighborhood Encounter and Epic Fart Story

Timestamps: 12:27 – 17:44

• Summary: John describes a painfully awkward encounter while handling trash duties at his rental property. He accidentally lets out a massive fart just as he meets a new neighbor for the first time—then proceeds to spill a cold Waterloo onto himself and nearly drives at a kid on the street.
  • The group explodes in laughter about “square” farts, the inability to mask them, and the horror of leaving a “fart impression” on a first meeting.
  • John details the ensuing chaos: “It looked like I had completely lost my mind and was aiming a car at a child.”

"I'm walking along, I'm farting loudly, and I put the bin back and I go, hello, hello. And I'm like, oh no. On the other side of my jeep is the neighbor... She comes, 'Hi, we haven't met yet.' All I'm thinking was like, the farting, because it was loud."
— John, 13:44

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3. Therapy Session and Vocal Insecurity

Timestamps: 17:45 – 19:45

• Summary: John visits his therapist Katrina and spends “35 minutes” obsessing over whether he “sounds different”—ignoring deeper self-improvement questions. Katrina reassures him he’s a “better man” but John only cares about voice tone.
• Self-deprecation about being an “old liberal cuck” and jokes about being “just different now.”

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4. UFO Abduction, Alien DNA and Rabbit Holes

Timestamps: 19:45 – 26:34

• Summary: John falls down a late-night rabbit hole about UFO abductions after reading a (questionable) study suggesting "alien" DNA is present in self-identified abductees.
  • Amused debate about the definition of “alien”—is it space aliens or just “foreign” DNA?
  • Jokes about illegal immigrants and their DNA, plus theories of why “crazy stories” get dismissed, likening it to “Mark Grace’s slump buster.”
  • The group riff on how perhaps aliens intentionally select unbelieved humans so no one will take their DNA accounts seriously.

“They did a study of 2,000 people who claimed to have been abducted... and the 2,032 people they studied that have claimed to be abducted by aliens had unidentifiable DNA inside of them.”
— John, 20:05

• Brett and others remain skeptical: “I’m not one of those what if guys.” John counters: “But what if? Such a great question.”

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5. Aliens, Ghosts, and Belief

Timestamps: 26:35 – 29:20

• Summary: The conversation pivots to aliens, ghosts, and existential belief:
  • John: More likely to believe in aliens than religious afterlife or ghosts, but admits he’s ultimately an agnostic.
  • They gently mock ghost tourism in Arizona, especially the town of Jerome (“most overrated thing in Arizona is Jerome”—John).
  • Nostalgia for old radio stereotypes and disbelief in ghost town legends, with John offering his signature skeptical humor.

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6. Failed Doomsday Predictions and Calendar Confusion

Timestamps: 29:20 – 36:27

• Summary: The crew jokes about yet another failed doomsday preacher’s prediction (“World to end Sept 23rd—oops, actually Oct 7th & 8th due to the calendar mix-up”).
  • Extended riff on Jesus being confused about calendars (“Gregorian vs Julian”), taking Carnival cruises, and handing out fraudulent tickets.
  • Katrina and John engage in bits as African congregants and “Christ” encountering everyday annoyances like dying fire alarm batteries.

"Can he [Jesus] be a little bit more specific? Like, if he knows everything, he would have to be like, and I know you're on Gregorian..."
— John, 34:15

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7. Arizona Republic Newspaper Moves Out-of-State Printing: End of an Era

Timestamps: 38:32 – 46:22

• Summary: The hosts discuss local nostalgia as the Arizona Republic ends in-state printing, outsourcing production to Las Vegas—a symbolic death knell for local news print and Arizona media.
  • They note the shrinking size of physical newspapers (“now like this weird little pamphlet”) and their displacement by digital news.
  • John reflects on the strengths of newspapers: shared experience, curated headlines, and a healthier media consumption pace compared to digital oversaturation.

"The Arizona Republic... is no longer printing... Today is the last day. They’re going to Vegas ... that’s more cost-effective than having a separate printing press."
— John, 39:28

• Parallels drawn with the closure of Legend City (Arizona’s old, rickety theme park), with homespun memories and skepticism about Phoenix’s “cow-town” past.

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8. Legend City and Arizona Nostalgia

Timestamps: 41:44 – 44:43

• Summary: Brief detour deep into Valley kid nostalgia:
  • Legend City, Compton Terrace, Phoenix’s growth from “rube town” to metropolis.
  • Stories of not quite fitting in as San Diego or West Virginia transplants.
  • Fun facts: Wallace and Ladmo performed at Legend City every weekend; amusement park logistics before the freeway system.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If that was air, it was square." — John, on his epic fart, 13:00
• "KISS 1230's new motto: smooth as a shaved scrotum." — John, radio voice bit, 02:16
• "Nobody's gonna believe these hillbillies... the aliens didn't count on us having this technology." — John, on alien abductions, 22:55
• "I'm just saying, what if... I'm asking the precious question that no one asks anymore. What if?" — John, 24:23
• "Jerome is the most overrated thing in Arizona." — John, 28:26
• "If Jesus is a radio show producer, he's Toledo: 'we'll figure it out when we get there.'" — John, on doomsday date confusion, 37:46
• "That's kind of one that quietly slunk out of town. Like, it's been nice to know you... just another old retiree that's walking away. Sounds different than he used to years ago." — John, newspaper nostalgia, 45:00

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Tripp critiques John's voice: 00:39–05:41
• Old tape audio & nostalgia: 05:41–08:01
• Football nose-picking side-topic: 08:01–10:22
• Epic fart/neighborhood story: 12:27–17:44
• Therapy & vocal insecurity: 17:45–19:45
• UFO/alien DNA rabbit hole: 19:45–26:34
• Belief discussion (aliens, ghosts, religion): 26:35–29:20
• Failed doomsday & calendar confusion: 29:20–36:27
• Newspaper/Legend City nostalgia: 38:32–46:22

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Tone & Style

The conversation is brisk, goofy, personal, and a little surreal, filled with inside jokes for Phoenix listeners—and plenty of universal radio prankster charm. The group effortlessly swings between sarcastic philosophical questions and low-brow physical comedy (farts, spills) while offering real local Arizona color and a dash of self-aware existential dread.

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For New Listeners

If you haven’t tuned in, this episode captures Holmberg’s blend of honest self-analysis, Arizona-specific nostalgia, and roving comedic riffs. You’ll leave laughing, a bit wistful for things lost, and possibly invested in your own “what if?” rabbit holes.

Transcript

[Host]

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[John]

All right, HMS Podcast, time again to let you know where to go for.

[Host]

Some great comedy in the Valley this week.

[John]

For the complete lineups and for tickets, go to standuplive.com desertridgeimprov.com and tempeimprov.com you've been deceived by an agent of Satan himself. He's evil. Sitting right here. Come on.

[Katrina]

No, no, he's not.

[John]

He's not evil. He's just a bit rude. Good morning, everybody. Hello there.

[Katrina]

Welcome to Tuesday.

[John]

It's 5:45. My name's John. No, Brady again. He's in Ohio with his mom. There's Brett Toledo's back today. He knows what day's work are. Now he's back again. So we got that going for us. And I'm self conscious because I sat down with Tripp yesterday. Oh, yeah. And he said, you know, I listen to the best of when you're not around. And you sound different when it's now. And I'm like, what do you mean? He goes, you sound. I don't know, your voice is deeper and you've kind of just mellowed. And so now I'm like, thinking, well, what. What did I sound like? What do I sound like now? Was it good or bad? Which one was good and which one was bad? Were they both good? Now I've got to. Now I'm just gonna go ahead and go back to the stern thing and screw it.

[Host]

Was he listening to a kiss 12:30 impersonation or something? I mean, yes, maybe he was.

[John]

Maybe Johnny Midnight was on the air. How y' all doing? Kiss 12:30? I don't know, but it made me self conscious. But I told him, I said, maybe the old tapes all sound sped up because they're not compressed through a microphone.

[Brett]

It could be that. Because there's a lot of people that were wondering what Brady was on, because I played. I played Brady stuff from like 15, 16 years ago.

[Katrina]

Well, look, that's age.

[Brett]

That's what I'm saying.

[John]

Brady was on his late 30s is what that was. Sounded clear, actually. Geez. Brady was on his 40s at that point, but still, look, we all know that there's some brain fog going on there a little bit. He's got some stuff going, but still, that just got under my it's brood. So I'm sitting there now. I'm hearing myself in my ears. I'M like, well, now what? You know how everybody. Everybody listening is like, oh, you hear yourself on tape. You're like, is that me? Same. I can't listen to this crap.

[Host]

I can't kiss 12:30 at. Man, I'm telling you.

[John]

I just have to be smooth all day long, all night long, baby. You know how it is. Smooth like a shaved scrot. Girl, that's Kiss 1230's new motto. Smooth as a shaved scrotum. Here's some Lou Rawls. God damn it. No, no, God damn it. I wouldn't have said it. That's just the one that pops to mind every time. Yeah, he said we were sitting there yesterday and he took me. Oh, for Christ's sake. You know, it triggers it.

[Katrina]

It does.

[John]

It's 5:47, first thing in the morning here. Hopefully I still sound the same as I always have to your beautiful ears. Phoenix. Oh, it's a beautiful day outside. Hope Tripp Reeb's listening this morning and understand I don't know what to do now that you've entered this worm into my brain, making me feel like my. My voice sounds funny, like I've got some alien DNA or something like that. Don't matter to me. It's 70 degrees. I didn't get my kids 1230. I am different. I am different. He's right. I can't post no more. I'm. Oh, I'm in a slump. Quiet down, Lou. I wasn't done yet. Anyway, so now I'm conscious of everything. And normally, you know, when somebody says something like that to me, I. I grab my glasses and I put them on just to see if I give a but. And I do, damn it. Absolutely do. But I don't know.

[Brett]

Did you point to the ratings?

[John]

Was it like imus? I don't know. Is it like. Like, remember imus at the end? Spiraling traits. Am I having that standing outside? I remember when he used to sound, and now I just. Now he kind of preyed on me. And almost like he said, you sound really slow and old. I think you were listening to Brady. That's not me, is it? I don't know.

[Brett]

Can I go find old tapes of Kevin and Bean? Maybe. Maybe it's his effect.

[John]

Yeah, maybe he wears me down. Maybe I'm just too a nub.

[Host]

You gotta be fun.

[John]

But today, probably gonna be a lot of fun. A lot of false energy without realizing I'm actually doing it.

[Host]

Hey.

[John]

Hi, buddy. There we go. I know. I don't. I don't know what the difference is, but I also think that there's a difference in the studio. Yes. Over the last couple years that there's something that they changed in here that I hear. But I don't know if it's better. Well, no. Well, see, now you're doing it.

[Brett]

No, no, no.

[John]

Why don't we go back on vacation? Isn't it Saturday to you? I don't know what days it is. Yeah, it's. I. Yeah, it feels gated. Yeah. Like something's on and it has for a while. I got used to it. But I remember when it first I'm like something's different and I thought my headphones were funny or something. It's cleaner.

[Brett]

Our old shows are definitely more compressed because I'll bring you up the files and you can just tell by looking at them.

[John]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can look on the. On the wave thing. I don't know. I don't know how it works. Anyway, welcome back to the Juwap extravaganza. Today with a side of toast and juwap is the show we're doing without Brady this week as he's back in Ohio and people very worried that Brady dropped dead. Me emails are like, where's Brady? What happened? I didn't hear the beginning. He's. He just went back. His mom had an operation of harmless hip one but they've been through a lot the two of them over the last couple months and I think they just needed to be mother and son together in a room for a little bit. And of course Kirby went along to go look at schools in Ohio and again, not happen.

[Brett]

If that happens, she needs to be a bobcat.

[John]

What? I don't know. Pass on the legacy. I mean clearly it's such a prestigious. It's a school that really leaves you educated Tom Brennaman. Oh yeah, they got good. I'm not saying they don't have any. Okay. I'm just saying, you know, as evidenced, there's not a strict standard for at least handwriting.

[Brett]

One of those branches curved.

[John]

Yeah. Somewhere along there. But I. Kirby's gonna. If Brady. If Kirby goes to Ohio for school. You think the kidney thing was bad? He will become a tumor. He's not. He's not going to make it with her going on a table. He'll be live from Ohio. He'll move back to Ohio.

[Host]

That's exactly what'll happen.

[John]

He'll do.

[Brett]

He'll did it during COVID He'll say, I can do it.

[John]

He'll. Chrissy Hine When I went back to Ohio anyway, it's an interesting thing, but I don't know how I sound anymore. So it's all just. I'm screwed up.

[Host]

Three different people saying the same thing, too.

[John]

That I sound terrible?

[Host]

Well, no, just different.

[John]

Just different than what? I don't know.

[Host]

Then the old tapes.

[John]

Well, yeah, old tapes. Listen to yourself. Listen to yourself on an old tape. Grab an old. It's like if it's not digital because you run it off of an old thing that runs on a new thing. So it's grabbing the. I don't know.

[Brett]

Well, some of that stuff. Remember we had to run on cassette tape.

[John]

Yes.

[Brett]

Oh, and if it didn't get flipped, we didn't get the other half of the show.

[John]

If you were 15 years ago, you were running on the best of that is going to sound like. Yeah, it might as well just be.

[Brett]

There was a couple of Brady Report stories that were from 2006.

[John]

Oh, yeah. See those. Those have to sound like. You know, I really enjoy Brett's company. President Roosevelt and I had a nice chat. We've got a bulletin. The bulletin is coming in right now. Oh, my. Yeah, if you're going back that far and he's comping those things. What was I, 14 in 2006? That's not fair. May. I got my head. So I took my glasses off because I did give a. Yeah, you do sound different. I honestly hate to say it, but in the old ones, you and Eric sound alike. You son of a. The only difference I've noticed in your old tapes is your beak comes through a lot stronger in the old ones. Yeah, okay. Thanks, Cody. That's true. You can't really hear the beak.

[Brett]

Is it banging in the mic all the time?

[John]

That's right, you prick. Cody. Speaking of beaks, did you guys watch the game last night?

[Host]

I didn't.

[John]

Oh, did you?

[Katrina]

Yeah.

[John]

Oh, Trevor Lawrence and I have a big nose. We've. We've established it.

[Host]

They're gonna come in now.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brett]

See the divot he left when he dove into the end zone?

[John]

Well, his nose. Yeah, his nose probably leaves some marks like a golf club, but right about two minutes left in the game, they did a sideline shot of Trevor Lawrence. This dude's nose is big. I mean, it's disturbingly big. He had two fingers in a nostril, and they stayed on it for 14 seconds as he dug. You go on. It's everywhere. He picked his nose. Now, normally there's a camera on, like, 14 different things during a football game. I don't know how many cameras they Towed around. For each live broadcast, a guy will hit a shot like, we got to get a shot of Trevor Lawrence. And there he is. And he'll reach up and grab his nose. He had two fingers in his nose, and he was going. He didn't eat it. Which is great because that was what I thought was gonna happen. But normally the director's like, crowd shot. Or, you know, you know, go to camera 2. Go to look at the depth he's getting with thumb and finger on that. He is digging.

[Brett]

Maybe it's like you. You pull hairs that way.

[John]

Hairs hang out, though. You have to pull them with two. I can't get.

[Brett]

You don't go in.

[John]

I can't get boogers with a thumb. And my nostrils are big, but they're not big enough for that dude. And I did like, multiple. I did like. Oh, he. He wouldn't stop picking. It was. I'm not kidding, 13, 14 seconds where he was deep in that nose. And they just stayed on the shot the whole time.

[Brett]

I was that shot for 14 seconds.

[John]

And he's tearing into it. His head's doing Bob's.

[Host]

And watch it.

[John]

The best quote I saw, Frozen wasn't the worst pick he had all night.

[Host]

You're not lying. Yeah, that profile.

[John]

Yeah. No, that beak is. No, he's got a huge. And it's long. It's really long.

[Brett]

Wow, that's a man.

[John]

That's a big beak, but it's big enough for a thumb and a finger. And he was using both. And I mean, going in, it was. It was deep. So, yeah, they go to ABC. ESPN doesn't pull off. They've got 20 something cameras in the whole building. And they. The director didn't one time go, all right, enough of this.

[Brett]

Director's like, hold.

[John]

Yeah, just a camera four. Now go. Anything. Crowd shot. Sky. The moon. It was a full moon. Get me a shot of that. Somebody was working and not all other cameras were, like, taking a second off. 14 seconds and nobody moved it. It was disgusting. And it was also hilarious. Hilarious. But yeah. So they. But. And then the end of the game was fantastic. Trevor Lawrence drops back to pass, falls down, gets up, falls down again, and then just starts running around, scores a touchdown. And the Chiefs are in trouble. My Steelers didn't play this weekend. Did nothing but win. Bills down, Ravens down. Bengals down. Chargers down. Chiefs down. The only one that won that we were like, maybe they're a thing are the Broncos.

[Brett]

Now you got to worry about the.

[John]

Colts and the Colts and the Colts are good. Jags are They're. I don't think they believe they're good yet. They're. They're. They could. They're learning. They played well last night, but I don't know if that's because the Chiefs are in some sort of weird thing or if the Jags actually played well. It was a good game. It's fun game and man, I gotta hand it to YouTube and I don't know if DirecTV's doing this, but I dumped you DirecTV to get to YouTube and YouTube TV has that multi view thing, quad box. Oh, you can do four, you can do two, you can do whatever you want. And I was watching baseball and football at the same time, just flipping sound back and forth. What a fantastic thing they've got going on there. That was awesome. It's just man night. It was a Monday night day. Hol's morning sickness.

[Host]

Two and three Chiefs though.

[John]

I know who we guess.

[Host]

I never thought I'd see.

[John]

It is awesome.

[Brett]

Love to see dynasties fall.

[Host]

They're right above the Raiders.

[John]

Well, that's what Tripp said is happening here. I don't know. You sound like some sort of old slog. I think it's over. I don't know. Do you still want to do this? I'm like, why? I don't know. From the sound of it, you sound like. I don't know. Garbage would be the. I don't know. Is that the proper word? I don't know.

[Brett]

Is it passive aggression on his part?

[John]

I don't know. That was the thing. I. That's what I. I over larried it afterwards and I got all. I started thinking about it and I'm like, do I sound different? Do I have a. Do I sound. So then the better part of this thing is yesterday I go over to the rental house because it was trash day, so I had to pull the bin back in. I've met no one in this neighborhood and I'm over there doing stuff, keeping the weirdest hours and thought you met.

[Brett]

The guy that came over.

[John]

Well, that was a weird, weird dude that was walking by that morning. Wanted to chat. So it's a carport and I have my jeep in there and I'm coming around the corner, I'm dragging the bin and you know, sometimes you don't realize you're singing whatever song you just hurting your car. So I park, I go in there, I grab some stuff in there and I go out to get the bin and I'm starting to walk out, I'm about to leave. It's like 4:30, I'm about to take off and so I put the bin in the. In the thing. But I'm singing like, here they come to sniff the rooster. And I'm thinking, it just let him. And I let out one of those Tumblr as I'm walking. You gotta check your drawers. Yeah, one of those. Exactly. Like, you're like, that was. That had some. If that was air, it was square. Yeah, it had sharp edges. And I'm like, wow, that was a weird thing. But I didn't stop. It was a Toledo, it wasn't a speed buggy. So I'm walking along, I'm farting loudly, and I put the bin back and I go, hello, hello. And I'm like, oh, no. On the other side of my jeep is the neighbor. She's pruning something on her house. It's like she's got a bunch of vegetation there. And she comes, hi, we haven't met yet. And I swear I don't know this woman's name because all I'm thinking was like, the farting, because it was loud.

[Brett]

Couldn't the bin rumbling have disguised it?

[John]

No, no, no, no, no. It was. It was after the bin had been placed. Oh. And then the. And then I'm like, you never find. I don't remember what I was singing, but it was loud and it was dumb. And you got to remember, my house I live in has the normal one. There's no neighbors, really. There's a big. I can fart. And Michael and Troy will sense it.

[Host]

Well, they might enjoy it too.

[John]

Oh, there's been a disturbance, but they won't necessarily hear it from driveway to driveway. This one is just a house next to a house. And so she heard it. There's no way she didn't. And I was worried it was following her. So I didn't hear a word she said. My brain's just like, oh, please don't stink, please. That was a square fart and it hurt. So she's like. I'm like, hi, nice to meet you. Yeah. I'm told her, what's going on with house? And she goes, that's lovely. If you need any help. I'm like, yep, I gotta go. So I hop in the Jeep, the windows are down because it's beautiful. I just had this experience. I have a. An ice cold Waterloo black cherry water because I'm not drinking Coke anymore, and those are my replacement and I'm crushing them and they're good. And this thing came out of the fridge just perfectly Cold. So I'm backing up. I get out of the driveway, windows down, no radio on anymore, and I one hand crack open the drink. Two houses over across the street, there's a kid standing there with no shirt on. Just kind of on the like edge of the like street and yard. I see him and I see the lady out of the corner of my eye to my left, the kids to my right. One house over. This got bad. So this lady's already like, geez, he really farted loud when he said that was awkward. As I'm cracking open the Waterloo, I go to grab it because I'm one handed. I had hand on the thing and I'm leaning it down on the little cup holder. When I reach down to grab it, it starts to fall. And I grip it real hard and squeeze the can and ice cold Waterloo spills all over my leg and my crotchal area. So the next thing this woman sees is me going speeding off and aiming a car at a child. It looked like I had completely lost my mind and I was. And it's aimed sideways. It's not. It's not straight yet. I straighten it out and I just weave down the road. And I'm like, I can never go back to this house again. I look like. I look like an insane person. The kid like, like looks like the car had to be coming right at him. That little bastard had to think it was nuts. Nobody knew I'd spilled this water on me. And then had they seen the end of it, which they didn't. Hysterical laughter by the end of the road. So that's how I introduced myself to the neighbor. That water was freezing. I just had a pair of like workout shorts on right through. Ice cold water to the balls. And that poor little kid, he didn't hear me. He just saw a madman with crazed eyes aiming a car at him right out of the driveway and smashing the gas.

[Brett]

I was hoping for a little fountain, little geyser come up out of the window.

[John]

That would have been. Yeah, she just sees me. It looks like I just got done.

[Katrina]

Yeah. I'm so beat off. Bye.

[John]

No, just this weird. And thank God it was a Jeep because anything faster and I would have been in that kid's yard. It just makes noise. It doesn't really fly. They're quick, but they're not doing that. The kid just kind of took a few steps, like, is that guy aiming his car at me? New dude down the road's an asshole. So that's how I started off yesterday. I got Tripp telling Me, I'm a different man. I try to kill a child. There's farting on neighbors.

[Host]

Did you drive right to Katrina's, or.

[John]

I mean, I know. You know what's funny? I saw her earlier in the day, so I was like, yeah, yeah, it's just one of those. Yeah. An hour and a half with Katrina earlier. And like, you know, it's really beneficial to have these moments with a therapist. And, you know, I used to kind of frown on it. Now I like it quite a bit. And thanks for making. I've left there feeling pretty good. A good 35 minutes of my session with Katrina yesterday. I was like, do I sound different? What do you mean? Do I like when I. When you first met me into now, am I different? Well, you're. You're. You're a better man, I think. No, no, not like that. Do I sound. I don't care about that. Do I sound different? Is my voice different? Do I sound like I. Do I sound like. I don't give a. That's what I think he was saying. I mean, 25 years, a long time to do a show. I mean, are you into it, or what are you talking about? And then he had the nerve, that old Q tip, to tell me, you just. It's just, you're older now. Me, look, Methuselah. Anyway, so then it just. It, you know, as it does it bounces off the walls and heads off into dodger cubs talk and things like that. So. Wasn't mean. It just got in my head. I don't know if he's at home going, he got him by design. Yeah. I don't know what's going on. We'll see. But it was. It was very strange. And I just want to apologize to everyone who's not sure who I am, and I think I will just go with the, you know, I'll just be the old liberal cuck. Just get it out of the way. Yeah, I know, but if we're going to sound different, let's do it. We'll just make. We'll go ahead and make it this way anyway. I don't know how that works, but it's a weird day, and it's just staying weird the whole time. Then I go home. Brett, Jesus, you had a hell of a day. My God. No, I got. I got. This has nothing to do with. I got into a. Like a real deep rabbit hole, and it was just. Hold here with me, all right? You know all those people who are abducted by aliens and we all go, oh, they're crazy. They're crazy. They're crazy. They did a study of 2,000 people who claim to have been abducted at one point or another.

[Host]

Okay.

[John]

And they did another study of people who never claimed to be abducted in the study. And I don't know how real this actually is. I don't know if this is for the story or just for sensationalism. The 2032 people they studied that have claimed to be abducted by aliens had unidentifiable DNA inside of them. Them. What? Non parental.

[Host]

You've been hanging out with Nash too long.

[John]

I know that might be. That might be a thing, but it was unidentifiable alien DNA. And they called it alien because they're like, we're not familiar with what this is from. And they're. And they're like, see, they're like, we still don't. You're still too nuts to believe. But it says. Yeah, they did a genetic test of their DNA, and there's like, yeah, there's some non parental strains in here, like some sort of an anomaly. And every one of them that claimed to have been abducted and some who said they hadn't in this weird test. So they said 500. Well, this is the one thing. 581 families from the Thousand Genomes Project because they tested another thing off of like 23andMe. They're like, is this a normal thing? And so out of 1581 had this weird thing in it. And they're finding that this DNA, that they don't know what it is. I mean, for the sake of the story, they're saying it's alien DNA, which makes you think of aliens like E.T. yeah, yeah, but it's not necessarily that kind of alien. It's just, you know, foreign. And they can't. They can't place it.

[Host]

Like Jose and Julio.

[John]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's exactly what I thought, too, Brad. Illegals. And you know what they're doing? They're stuffing their DNA. And your daughters. And they've been. Ask Dan Holberg. Those people have been crossing the border, jamming DNA and little white blonde girls for a long time. I told you that. No, it's. Yeah, it's not that kind of stuff. Okay. Or is it? But now we have to just sit and think to ourselves. And I know it's easy to dismiss and go, ah, now what if they weren't lying? Where's the what if factor? I know you gave me the face immediately, but what if? Why did we discount it so quickly? What if we. And another story I saw. They found vulture nests in a cave in Spain that are evidently 8 or 900 years old, and they have shoes in them and stuff from that time because it was in a cave and the cave didn't. You know, there's no sunlight, and there's no rain. There's nothing. So it perfectly preserved all of these things. And they do these DNA tests. We're so quick to believe everything that they say when it's like, well, the shoe is 750 years old, and this is how we know for sure. This and this. And then when they come out and say, well, these alien abductees are now. Yeah, I know it sounds nut. Maybe Tripp's right. Maybe I've. I think the guy's lost his I'm.

[Host]

Trying to see trips.

[John]

It's. But what if they're right? What if they're not lying and we have dismissed all of this and they could have unlocked a few doors that we didn't understand for such a long time? Then you have to wonder, are the aliens doing it on purpose? Like, can they look down and go, nobody's gonna believe that? Like, what Tripp did. He just. They. They pick something, and then they just make them sit in your mind. But there's. Nobody's gonna believe this guy. It's Mark Grace's slump buster thing. Bang the fattest girl you can when you're in a slump buster. When she comes out and says, I've been having sex with him, and you're like, I wouldn't have sex with that. No one will believe the fat girl. Now there's DNA testing so very similar to the aliens. It's like, nobody's gonna believe these hillbillies. And then the aliens didn't count on us having this technology, so they've been, you know, jamming DNA in people. All of them have had, like, I was injected. I was probed. Alien DNA.

[Host]

Did you walk around with some Ray Bans on, like, Rowdy Roddy Piper and they live yesterday or what?

[John]

And I'm all out of bubble gum. Yeah, I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubblegum. I'm just saying, what if morning sickness radiate K U p D Holmberg's morning sickness. Maybe we should. Maybe we should look into this.

[Host]

These aren't the aliens you're looking for.

[John]

Yeah, this one Ben has pointed out saying. I'm not saying I'm out of your mind. I'm not saying I'm on board in this black and white world, you can't have a conversation without people going, at least for this. And that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, what if. I'm asking the precious question that no one asks anymore. What if? Ben says. It has been revealed that scientists have given the unknown DNA name a gene called bsc, which is known as the batch crazy gene. All right. That bad. That wasn't helpful at all. Scientifically, not at all. But what if. Oh, this is. Maybe the crop dusting fart was, in fact, a result of you having been abducted, and that's why Tripp thinks you sound different. You've changed. Let's face it. Maybe Trip's like, are you one of us? Like, maybe Trip's one of them walking around in human skin, and he's, like, sensing that maybe I've. I have not been abducted. I would like to have been.

[Host]

As far as, you know.

[John]

Says all those abducted people listen to kdkb because I could identify that mystery DNA. It's not. It's not. It's not man juice. Anyway. It would. Yeah, the dude juice. I wonder how they used to react when dude juice happened on the station a lot. Oh.

[Host]

Oh, you sound a little different.

[John]

Yeah. Yeah. It had to, like. It had to tingle them, like when Stephen Hawking went over speed bumps or something. Ah, yeah. Oh, why did you do that? Do it again, dude. Jeez. Oh, that's how you know you're gay. Up. You hear that, and you're like, we.

[Host]

Hear from the hall. Down the hall.

[John]

Yeah, no, that's true. Well, I mean, not anything new around here. I mean, that's how you know you're gay. 93. 3. That's the second you hear that in your car, you know you're gay. And it's okay. There's nothing wrong with it. It just.93. 3. Tom Brennaman has a word. Anyway. Yeah, I'm just. I. You know, do you. Do you believe in that?

[Host]

Aliens?

[John]

Yeah. No. You don't believe there's aliens? You and Brady both?

[Host]

No. I mean, you know, you don't believe those guys. You got to show it to me. Like, I don't. I'm not one of those what if guys.

[John]

But what if? Such a great question. Now, you don't have a. What? You don't have a. You think this little dot floating around at a million miles an hour is all there is?

[Host]

I don't know, but I. But I don't think. I don't know it's. Unless I see it I don't believe it. It's kind of like the whole ghost thing. Oh, God. Well, what do you. I mean, that same thing.

[John]

Well, it is.

[Host]

I haven't seen that.

[John]

That's how I am. But honestly, that's how I am with religion. Until you prove something could be it too. Yeah, but aliens seem more reasonable than religion. What I've been presented with.

[Host]

What about ghosts?

[John]

Again, what I've been presented with is less likely than another life form existing elsewhere on a planet because there's other planets. Like you can't prove to me there's an ethereum until you can. You know, that's one thing people don't understand. I'm not staunchly against the idea of it. I just don't think what's been presented is enough for me to go, oh, I'm. I'm putting all my chips in.

[Host]

Well, and I'm the same way. It's not that I. I'm not denying. I just haven't seen it. So I'm like kind of.

[John]

It's. You don't believe. Yeah, in a certain thing. And that's how I am. I don't believe. That's what atheism means, a lack of belief. It doesn't mean nothing. Nothing. Nothing like people want it to be. Agnostic means a lack of knowing. So knowing and believing are two different things.

[Host]

So you believe in aliens more than ghosts?

[John]

I believe in the possibility of alien. I believe in the possibility of ghosts. I just don't think they're doing what people think they.

[Host]

You don't think they're at the Grand Hotel?

[John]

No, I think. Well, because first off, it's called a ghost town, but not because there's ghosts there. It's because everybody abandoned it, so it's just this empty shell. But it's not.

[Host]

It's tweakers and hippies.

[John]

Tweakers, hippies. And it's jam packed with crap. And Jerome's. By the way, if you're new to the town, most overrated thing in Arizona is Jerome.

[Host]

110%.

[John]

You're so close to Sedona. Just go there. The view's nice. Drive up, turn around and leave. Jerome is pointless on the backside of Mingus Mountains.

[Host]

Great ride. Yeah, it's amazing. Then when you get there, have a.

[John]

Beer and le at Jerome. Yeah, no, just pass through. You're so close to good places. Bring beer. Go to Smiley Rock or go to Cottonwood or something. Cottonwood's great. There's Cottonwood. There's Cornville. Got a great burger Place in Cornville, anywhere. Jerome is such an overrated thing. But then they try to tell you there's ghosts there. And again, I can prove them wrong immediately by renting a room at that hotel, trashing it, and telling the front desk, hey, your ghosts trashed my room. And they'd be like, oh, come on, there's no ghosts up there. They'd still charge you. So you know that's true.

[Host]

Nobody believes I charge Windfall Willie, the old prospector.

[John]

I think people want ghosts to be real because then it feeds into their idea that when we die, we move on. And I really don't. I don't care if this is it. This is it. I spent. Like Mark Twain said it. This place has been going on thousands and millions of years before me. And I didn't. I don't have any feelings or memory about that. So I was essentially dead long before I was alive. And that now I'm alive for this little blip on time. And if this is it, this is it. If I die, I go right back into that. I have no knowledge of it, so it doesn't scare me. That doesn't scare me either. I don't mind. I don't mind there being nothing. If there is, that'd be lovely. But forever's a mighty long time, so they better have some great games up there. Great games. And speaking of. I don't know if you guys saw that. You know how the world was supposed to end on September 23rd?

[Brett]

It didn't.

[Host]

Oh, man.

[John]

No, Toledo. It didn't. And you know what? We still have to come to work.

[Brett]

Damn it.

[Host]

We shouldn't have showed up.

[John]

Some of us do. Well, he didn't. Three day weekends.

[Host]

Well, I was more referring to Brady over here.

[John]

Oh, no, he's. Yeah, he's off running. Well, because he thought the end of the world. So he planned a trip to go say goodbye to his mom. And Toledo very much may be on the same page as that pastor in Africa that predicted September 23rd and 24th were the last days on the planet. Because he said God came to him on his throne and told him.

[Host]

His throne.

[John]

No, he wasn't on a throne. I think. You know what?

[Katrina]

It's a good question.

[John]

I don't know if it was his throne or God's throne. Somebody was on a throne and they were chatting back and forth. Or maybe he was on the throne. That's what I was thinking. And he's taking a deuce. And then Jesus is like, the world's going to make me his Poop smelled so bad. He's like, you're going to end the world if you keep this up.

[Katrina]

Thank good Jesus.

[John]

So he said September 23rd and 24th, the world was going to come to an end. And then. And then he was embarrassed. And some people remember we were making fun, Sold their cars and got rid of property. And like, they were all prepped for it. Okay, he's back. And he's back. Yeah. And you know that calendar Toledo uses for vacations that's off? Evidently, it's Gregorian, or we're Gregorian and that one's the other one, Julian or whatever. Now the guy's saying Jesus came to him and he goes, oh, that makes tons of sense. He's on the other calendar. God never switched to the Gregorian calendar like we did. He's. It's different. So he. He didn't do that.

[Host]

He's going to double down.

[John]

No, no. So now it's October 7th and 8th. So today and tomorrow, because that would be. They're figuring that Gregorian is different than the original calendar that Jesus used by about 14 days. So, yeah, we swapped out the Gregor to the Gregorian calendar because of like King Greg or something. I don't know. Well, I don't know.

[Host]

If that's the case, then Australia is gone.

[John]

Right.

[Host]

Because they've already been October 7th for a minute.

[John]

It would start. Yes. So he's wrong again, is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. But he didn't say. He didn't say which time zone would get hit first. But we used to be on an old calendar.

[Host]

Can this prick make up his mind?

[John]

And Jesus, I guess, doesn't know everything because when he came back, Jesus. Jesus is digging his heels in on this old calendar. He won't even acknowledge the Gregorian. But this guy's new excuse was. I'm not, you know, at first he apologized and he came back and he.

[Katrina]

Goes, wait a minute.

[John]

And like a little light bulb went off. Said it was confusing because Jesus came to him and gave him these dates. But Jesus was using what they used to use and he isn't. He won't do it. He's like metrics and miles.

[Host]

He won't update his. His phone. He's still like using an iPhone 3 or something. Come on.

[John]

The Julian calendar is different because I think they only used to do 30, 28 days per month. It's like a 13 or 14 day difference between.

[Brett]

They didn't have a 13th month.

[John]

No, I think that's astrology. I don't know. There maybe. I think there's A better calendar out there. And that's been proven, too, than what we use. But, yeah. So the Gregorian calendar is what? And the guy's like, wait a second. That means. That means it's this week. So it could start happening today. I'm rooting for it once again.

[Brett]

And, John, can you ring up John Eaton real quick, please, and have him explain calendars to you?

[John]

Yeah, John Eaton, why don't you get on that real quick and start, you know, nitpicking every word we say about that? But, yeah, that's what the guy said. So today, there. And here's the other thing. It's kind of an unknown, with time having switched over to the Gregorian calendar when we did in, like, the 1500s. I don't know when we did it, that we don't know how much time has been screwed up. So it's somewhere between 13 and 20 days different than what Jesus would have come back and said. And this is why I struggle with the Lord Jesus. Can he be a little bit more specific? Like, he's. If he knows everything, he would have to be like, and I know you're on Gregorian. So, like, at least your grandma calls and says, what time is it there? Before she starts talking about stuff. If Jesus come back. What's the current date there?

[Katrina]

It's August 8th.

[John]

Okay. It's July 15th here. So let's just do the math. And world's going to end my September, your October. So just kind of map it out.

[Katrina]

Thank you, Lord Jesus.

[John]

Yeah, no problem. I want to make sure I covered my bases. No, he's just stubborn.

[Host]

I think Jesus is up there going, yeah, my beer got him again.

[John]

Yeah. He sips his beer and he goes, get in your Hellcat now and drive off. I got him. I got him. I've been terrible to those people for a long time.

[Katrina]

I'm taking a Carnival cruise.

[John]

I am your Lord Jesus.

[Katrina]

Oh, my God, it's the Lord Christ. He has come down.

[John]

Here's two tickets on a Carnival cruise.

[Katrina]

I can't believe the bounty I am being presented.

[John]

Here's your hellcat.

[Katrina]

Oh, my God. The. Praise be to the Lord Jesus.

[John]

The world will end on my calendar in the end of September. You do the math.

[Katrina]

I'll be on my cruise. Jesus.

[John]

Then he went all the way over to the place.

[Katrina]

Two tickets. All the way to the Caribbean.

[John]

These tickets are forgery. And then you just hear.

[Host]

And change the batteries in your fire alarm.

[John]

Here are two double A batteries for the chirping alarm.

[Katrina]

Is that what that is?

[Brett]

No, it's Me.

[Katrina]

That is my fire alarm. I'm the only man in Africa with a fire alarm.

[John]

Clover's morning sickness. 88. Can you PD Holmberg's morning sickness.

[Katrina]

They're chirping. I thought there was a bird in the attic.

[John]

No, you've all got it. It's a real thing. It's not even a stereotype. It's a. You guys don't change the batteries. Why? It is.

[Katrina]

It is a reckless endeavor to go get a little step stool and try to change the battery rather than just let it chirp and get used to it.

[John]

The chirping will end October 7th.

[Katrina]

Thank Christ. No, I mean thank you.

[Brett]

In general.

[Katrina]

I have been driven crazy by that little machine. No one is to know why. There is no reason for the chirping.

[John]

It ends October 7th. I'm coming back.

[Katrina]

Jesus is coming back to knock that.

[John]

Goddam thing off your ceiling. It's driving us nuts. It's keeping me and my dad up.

[Katrina]

It seems to always get going about 2 in the morning. No one knows. It's a mystery.

[John]

I'm French. For some reason I was laughing, so it's hard to do all of the accent. And then he goes to get his cruise. These are fraudulent, sir.

[Katrina]

Jesus. You got me again.

[John]

Take that, Africa. Stupid calendar. I don't know why you believe in me. I've been horrible to the whole continent for ages. Famine, disease, no food. And now you're buying into my Carnival cruise giveaways. Dad, dad, come here. I just got Africa to say that the world's coming to an end on our calendar. They don't know what that is. Look, look, look. Move. Jesus. Give me the binocular. Just looking down at us with those weird things on top of the Empire State Building. Another quarter change.

[Katrina]

Jesus.

[John]

Go in my. Go, you know, go in the top drawer. Grab a couple of quarters. We use American money here. Of course you do. You're Jesus. It's the best money anyway. So evidently it's going to end starting today or tomorrow or. Or maybe Thursday or Friday. Somewhere along the next couple weeks. Not very specific. You know, he's kind of like the. He's. If Jesus is a radio show producer, he's Toledo. It's like, yeah, we'll figure it out when we get there. We didn't have Monday.

[Brett]

Maybe I'll show up, maybe I won't.

[John]

Do we have Monday off? No, we'll hitch the old giddy up. On the three day weekend. I took four. How was your extra day?

[Brett]

I was good. Just some Flagstaff.

[John]

Nothing too special. We could have driven down for the show and gone back. Right.

[Brett]

I entertain that idea.

[John]

And by the way, that's not too far fetched because I don't know if you. Something kind of weird happened. And Brett, you're a lifer here in Arizona for the most part. I've been here since I was 11. Kind of a sad thing really, and a weird one as we watch media die as we know it, you know, with the magazines, radio, newspapers, local television. And it won't die. Locality is always. What I've said about radio, that will keep it alive. And unfortunately, even my own crappy company decided to, you know, start using national things a while ago to save money. The Arizona Republic. And weirdly, I have done nothing to support them for 25 years. So it's not like I'm nostalgic about this, but it is a. Nostalgia is no longer printing. The Arizona Republic in Arizona. Today is the last day.

[Host]

Nevada or something.

[John]

They're going to Vegas and they're going to print at the Las Vegas Journal up there and they're going to double print up there and then drive the papers here. That's more cost effective than having a separate printing press.

[Host]

Oh, that's just it too.

[John]

How do they get morning papers here?

[Brett]

I was wondering.

[John]

I mean, that's proof that the newspaper is so far behind everything else that by the time you get the paper, it was driven five hours. And not just here, all over the state. So they're printing this thing 7 o' clock yesterday to give you the news. And that's what they've always said about the paper. It fell behind. So it's yesterday's news today.

[Brett]

The only place I see a newspaper anymore is in Starbucks.

[John]

Yeah. And when you're walking out Circle K, you look down and go, wow. And it's now like this weird little pamphlet. It's the side of.

[Host]

It's like, it's like the New Times right now.

[Brett]

The New Times had the COVID of. It was an ad. The entire cover was an ad.

[John]

Yeah, it's just, it's a weird, you know, goodbye to something that. And it kind of quietly just went away. And you know, with your phone.

[Host]

Why do you.

[John]

You don't. There's no. Yeah, the news, the newspapers. One of the things in media that was inevitably going to get punched by computers. I thought first. It's lasted longer than I thought some. I still prefer a tangible, readable thing, but I don't grab a newspaper because I, you know, I'm up to date pretty much. That's just Me on almost every bit of news I'm interested in. And, and I. And the way our brains used to work. Newspapers were better because we found our stories in that, you know, paper and it was kind of the same thing everybody else read. Headline, a little bit of the story, some features that you like. Sports page. If you're into life and leisure, it had the opportunity for you to be informed enough without diving too deep and getting crazy. You know, there were no click here for more kind of rabbit holes. Yeah, yeah. You just got your. You got the headlines, you got the basics and you could educate yourself off it. I preferred that method because it kept us a little bit more sane. I do also like the idea of being informed, but I think we're over informed right now with a lot. But it was kind of. It's kind of a sad passing of something. It's kind of like when Legend City closed. I never went to. It was. Evidently it was right here.

[Host]

Yeah, it's right by the zoo. Yeah, I was there twice, I think.

[John]

Yeah. I never went to Legend City because when we moved here, I remember my mom thinking it's. It was for dirty hillbillies because this city was a cow town. When we moved here. It was not like a thriving like it is now. It's a. It's a real city. Then it was like. And the last thing I wanted to do was walk around a fun park in July that had metal. Like everything you touched was on fire. But we never went to Legend City because as a family we had been to Disneyland, real parks. And it was like, oh, this is just some street fair that the city these, these rubes think is like a big deal. But it was kind of neat.

[Host]

Les Compton Terrace was there too. That was the original Compton Terrace.

[John]

And are the lakes. Yeah, yeah, it was fantastic.

[Host]

Legend City also.

[John]

Bert and I both grew up in Mesa. It was a hall. Oh yeah. There was no freeway, there were no roads to get here. It was an all day sucker to go to Legend City from Mesa. Yeah, like it took 30 minutes, 40 minutes to get there because we were. I. I was over. I mean I was in Tempe when we first moved here. But Mesa most of the time, that's.

[Host]

Right where, where Phoenix Muni park is where the ASU plays now. It was right across the street where all the SRP buildings are because SRP bought all the city and then bulldozed it.

[John]

It's really. And so I'll ride through the. The walkway green belt there. And you're like, oh my God, this is what used to drive by was Legend City when I. And it closed pretty soon after I moved here. If I remember right. It's still there.

[Brett]

Closed in 83.

[John]

Okay. I moved here in 83. So it was like right when we moved here. So actually yeah. We didn't even have Mesa. I just knew it was a long haul to get over there. I knew Metro center was a never go. Oh.

[Host]

Because once a year maybe no freeways.

[John]

Yeah, yeah. The i10 didn't exist past downtown. It just stopped. The 60 just stopped. You had to get on surface streets to get over there.

[Brett]

It was a night copied Disneyland.

[John]

Oh they had the train and everything else. But I remember I never went there. But I remember going by and my mom's, you know, trying to find stuff for us to do when we first moved here. And Legend City was on every hillbillies list.

[Host]

Wallace and Ladmo played there every weekend.

[John]

And yeah, our. Our neighbors were the Stumps and their daughter Stacy, who had an incredible crush on. She had no idea. And I've since seen her as an adult and she held up nice. But we like they were Phoenicians and I think we had a poor attitude towards them coming from at that time, from San Diego and we'd been to SeaWorld, Disney. We were kind of snobby about like Phoenix is sort of a dusty dirt town. My dad loved it and I think we thought it was going to be a lot like Albuquerque because we live there too. Wow. Yeah.

[Brett]

So nothing around that?

[John]

No, there was nothing. Yeah. You look at an overhead.

[Brett]

Is that Phoenix Muni.

[John]

That's the park.

[Host]

Yep.

[John]

Yeah. And then that's. Yeah, that's the Biltmore Golf. Is that the Biltmore? Is that. No, that can't be.

[Host]

No, no, that's Papago.

[John]

That's Papago. That's Papago. That's right. Crazy. So I remember we'd go by and we thought it looked rinky dink, but it was probably a blast. So when that thing died, the whole city comes like, oh, that was a thing.

[Host]

It was cool for what it was.

[John]

Sure.

[Host]

You know.

[John]

Oh, I made it sound bad because I had a bad attitude towards it as a kid because my mom thought it was cheap. But you know, what did we know? We lived in West Virginia. We were a little triggered by garbage. We had seen it. We had been like, just, let's just be careful we don't fall into this trap again. And then Phoenix, of course, was that pretty big? It was huge. It was big. It was huge. But you know, the Paper move into Vegas is a very strange kind of like, all right, well, there's another little piece of Arizona that's disappearing to technology. And technology beats down everything. But that's kind of one that quietly slunk out of town. Like, it's been nice to know you. You know, it's got a little hobo sack and it's walking away and nobody's waving.

[Host]

It's like you're reading history, though, by the time you get that newspaper because they gotta print it, what, seven o' clock the night before.

[Brett]

But being history, print the morning one at like 1am Used to have an.

[John]

Afternoon one called the Phoenix Gazette.

[Host]

I used to deliver that back in the day.

[John]

I used to go with the guy, I say that I used to tag along with the guy I say go with the guys like we were dating. But I'd ride bikes with him while he delivered the afternoon. Yeah, favorite. But the. Yeah, but it's weird because that thing was such a crucial part of this town and to have it just kind of, you know, drift off into the distance and then finally go, I'm gonna take off. It was life of the party for a while. No fanfare and there no fanfare and, you know, just another old retiree that's walking away. Sounds different than he used to years ago. Oh, Jesus, it's me.

[Host]

But it's like, you look, you know, if you go to Circle K or something on a Sunday and you see the newspaper stack there, they're pamphlets now compared to what they were.

[John]

What you're saying is it's baby. Compared to what they used. That dude's doing.

[Brett]

You got a meal with your ticket.

[John]

It was like a hot dog and a churro. And it was pre good hot dogs and churros. It was desert rube, hot dog, churro.

[Host]

It's great value.

[John]

It was a great. No Great value state 44.

[Host]

Yeah, I don't know about that.

[John]

I don't know. It's. I first moved here in 83 and this was Albuquerque. It was a rube town. And it took about three, four years before it just exploded. But it was Rubetown, usa. I mean, Dave Pratt.

[Host]

I tell you what exactly.

[John]

Dave Pratt was doing. Well, he was entertainment to the masses. All right, buddy, catchphrases. Absolutely no thought into anything I say if I don't deserve it, do do. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? 5, 8, 5, 9800 a good one and we'll scream it together. It could be the last time. It's 98 kupd wake up. Hey. It's not weird. It's pret. Pretty cool, actually. No membership fee. I have heard enough of this.