10-08-25 - Cardinals Fine Jonathan Gannon 100k For Punching Player On Sideline After Fumble - John Once Again Calls For Gay Community To Do AZ Pride Parade In June Like Everyone Else

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness – Arizona (98KUPD)

Episode: 10-08-25 – Cardinals Fine Jonathan Gannon 100k For Punching Player On Sideline
Date: October 8, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brett Vesely, Dick Toledo (Brady Bogen is absent)

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Overview

This episode covers the controversial incident of Arizona Cardinals head coach Jonathan Gannon being fined $100,000 for punching a player (Emari Demercado) on the sideline following a pivotal fumble. The hosts dig into the broader culture of physicality in football and coaching, discuss the NFL’s strict conduct policies, draw parallels to historic coaching scandals, and riff with signature irreverence about politics, Pride parades, and the spectacle of halftime shows. John also comments (with pleas and jabs) on Phoenix's schedule for Gay Pride, criticizing Arizona’s practice of moving it to October.

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Table of Contents

1. Morning Banter and Arizona Weather
2. Jonathan Gannon’s Sideline Punch – Immediate Reactions
3. Old School Coaching Culture vs. Modern Norms
4. What If the Player Punches Back?
5. Physicality, Workplaces, and Hypotheticals
6. Social Media, Podcasts, and Scandal Proliferation
7. Fan Hot Takes and Listener Messages
8. Politics, Public Outrage, and Halftime Shows
9. Phoenix Gay Pride Parade Rant
10. Notable Quotes

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1. Morning Banter and Arizona Weather

• John opens the show appreciating the beautiful Arizona October weather, contrasting local paradise with day-to-day drama:
  • “All that bitching and crying you’re doing all day about nothing. Go outside, breathe some of this air… because you live in paradise. And you must recognize it.” (00:56)
• Usual ribbing ensues (“unless you’re in Maryvale, stay inside… it’s horrifying.”)

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2. Jonathan Gannon’s Sideline Punch – Immediate Reactions

• Incident Recap: Cardinals coach Jonathan Gannon fined $100k for punching RB Emari Demercado after a costly pre-endzone fumble.
  • John: “…he got fined $100,000 for punching a player who, by the way, I don’t know how you didn’t punch. This is the dude… that just threw the ball down on the one yard line before he got in and cost the Cardinals the game.” (01:53)
• John sees the action as the “beginning of the avalanche” for the Cardinals’ season.
• Brett: “He deserved both of them.” (03:15), referencing Gannon hitting Demercado twice.

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3. Old School Coaching Culture vs. Modern Norms

• The show explores if this is “firing offense” and compares Gannon’s act to infamous past incidents:
  • Woody Hayes and Bobby Knight, both legendary coaches, were ousted for physical altercations with players.
  • John: “Woody’s face is everywhere in Ohio State. He’s legendary… and he got booted because a fan or a player finally said dude’s being a little rough…” (06:09)
  • Discussion on coaching “toughness,” generational shifts, and consequences.

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4. What If the Player Punches Back?

• The hypothetical: if Demercado had punched back, both would be out.
  • John: “If he defends himself from a coach… that would have been defense.” (10:02–10:04)
  • “If you had time to think about where to punch me, had time to think about not punching him.” (11:29)

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5. Physicality, Workplaces, and Hypotheticals

• Parallels are drawn to standard workplaces:
  • John: “Think of this in any other job… if you throw a punch into the guts of one of your employees…” (04:27)
  • The team riffs about how they’d respond if their boss did this, with punchy office hypotheticals and insurance claims.
• Brett jokes about Marines: “All those hits I took in the Marine Corps, who do I get to call and cry to?” (13:45)
• John: “Smarter move is to not punch an employee. That’s just my point.” (14:22)

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6. Social Media, Podcasts, and Scandal Proliferation

• John notes the power of former player podcasts and social media to escalate incidents:
  • “That’s the danger of podcasting and the brilliance of podcasting. Everybody’s voice in social media… gets heard.” (06:56)
• Former player reactions: James Harrison jokes he’d be in jail if a coach did that to him:
  • “James Harrison said he’d be in jail if any coach did that to him. Well, guess what? No coach would have done that to you.” (03:47)

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7. Fan Hot Takes and Listener Messages

• The hosts read and react to listeners’ messages—ranging from support for “old school” toughness to calling John a “pussy” for advocating anti-violence in football.
• John: “I like the old school mentality… but a closed fist punch is different than grabbing a guy by the shoulder pads and shaking him, even smacking somebody in the helmet.” (10:13)
• Brett: “There’s different rules for football.” (14:32)
• Toledo: “Gannon came out… and said, not my best moment.” (15:04)

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8. Politics, Public Outrage, and Halftime Shows

• John pivots to mock outrage at the Super Bowl halftime show—specifically, the selection of Bad Bunny, which has become a lightning rod for culture wars.
• He satirizes Fox News’ endless focus on drag queens and perceived threats, observing:
  • “Fox News will have you for months… they love when trans people say or do anything goofy… You would think the streets are crawling with trans people committing crimes.” (34:03)
• Political references abound—Lee Greenwood as suggested Super Bowl headliner, Bad Bunny’s Puerto Rican heritage, and “culture outrages” over halftime shows.
  • John: “We’re arguing about Bad Bunny at halftime. Enjoy flying into Burbank with San Diego controlling.” (39:48)

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9. Phoenix Gay Pride Parade Rant

• John expresses bemusement (and mock annoyance) at Phoenix’s practice of holding the Gay Pride Parade in October instead of June, the traditional national schedule.
  • “You can’t be prideful when it’s hot. June is Gay Pride Month… We, we move it. It’s retroactive pride… You can’t move pride and close streets in October when I want to be outside.” (44:57)
• Suggests Phoenix should “be proud in June” even if it’s “105 degrees,” otherwise it’s just “pride when it’s convenient.” (47:31)
• General tone is playful, pointed, and self-aware: “Convenient Pride is not the answer. Be proud in June, march inside like they do the farmer’s market.” (47:33)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Gannon’s Punch:

• John Holmberg (03:51):

  “I just don’t think you hit Debo that way. I just… certain dudes you’re not going to do that to. DeMarcado took a shot and then a full on hook to the body when his head was down and turned. It was a cheap move.”

• Brett (12:13):

  “JP what the F. John, stop being a pussy puss. It’s football.”

• John Holmberg (14:22):

  “In today’s world, the smarter move is to not punch an employee. That’s just my point.”

• Toledo (15:04):

  “Gannon came out, I think it was yesterday and said, ‘Not my best moment.’”

On Football vs. Workplace Culture:

• John Holmberg (04:27):

  “Think of this in any other job…if you throw a punch into the guts of one of your employees…”

Listener Interactions:

• John (10:13):

  “I like the old school mentality of a coach knocking somebody around, but a closed fist punch is different…”

• Brett (16:54):

  “Let’s just start playing flag football then for you pussies out there. Done.”

On Pride Parade Scheduling:

• John Holmberg (44:57):

  “You can’t be prideful when it’s hot. June is Gay Pride month…We wait here till October. We, we move it. It’s retroactive pride.”

• John Holmberg (47:33):

  “Convenient Pride is not the answer. Be proud up in June. March inside like they do the farmer’s market.”

On Culture Wars and Outrage:

• John Holmberg (36:56):

  “Fox News will have you for months…they love when trans people say or do anything goofy.”

• (39:48)

  “We’re arguing about Bad Bunny at halftime. Enjoy flying into Burbank with San Diego controlling.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:53–07:23: Gannon punch incident and NFL context.
• 07:23–13:07: Debating workplace violence vs. “football culture”; old school vs. new reality.
• 15:04–16:54: Listener feedback and Gannon’s apology.
• 34:16–39:48: Culture war over the Super Bowl halftime show, Fox News and Bad Bunny.
• 44:45–47:33: John’s rant on moving Phoenix Pride from June to October.

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Tone & Style

The episode is frank, fast-moving, laced with sarcasm, off-color humor, and banter typical of rowdy morning radio. The hosts bounce between genuine sports analysis, cultural commentary, and intentionally politically incorrect asides—never taking themselves too seriously.

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In sum:
This episode delivers a pointed discussion of sportsmanship, modern workplace standards, and how public reactions (both professional and cultural) play out in today’s hyper-connected world. The Gannon incident serves as a launching point for larger riffs on tradition, consequence, and the quirks of Arizona life. If you like your sports and social commentary rowdy, skeptical, and unfiltered, this is classic “Morning Sickness.”

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Transcript

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[John Holmberg]

Sickness. You've been deceived by an agent of Satan himself. He's evil. Sitting right here.

[Toledo]

Come on.

[Byron]

No, no, he's not.

[John Holmberg]

He's not evil. He's just a bit rude. Good morning, everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Wednesday. It is 5:45. This is most of the morning sickness. My name's John Holmberg. How are you? Brady's not here. There's Brett. You're here. Yeah, yeah. All right. You sound great. I'm not so sure about myself, but I don't know. Still on my mind. And then Toledo's in the other room. We're good. Let's get it started, shall we? It's a glorious morning. First of all, just take advantage of it again. I do this every October where I walk outside, I'm like, here we go. Appreciate it, everyone. Appreciate it. We live in paradise, bitch. Cry about politics all day. Argue with your family. That guy's too gay. That guy's not gay enough. Where are the drag queens? Get rid of the drag. All that bitching and crying you're doing all day about nothing. Go outside, breathe some of this air that we got going on right now. Take a walk, enjoy yourself, because you live in paradise. And you must recognize it. It's beautiful here. We don't say it enough unless you're in Maryvale. Stay inside. You're gonna get shot. Yeah, I was there last week. It's horrifying.

[Brett]

Horrifying, But I'm enemy.

[John Holmberg]

No way. Yeah. No. It's so nice out right now. It makes you upset that if you have to get up this early to do a job, the sucky part is, is that you got to go to work instead of like, all right, well, I'm up. I might as well do something. It's spectacular out there right now. It is absolutely beautiful. So get on out there if you can. Take the chance and make it happen. I am fascinated so far today with what's going to happen with Jonathan Gannon. I don't know if you saw it. You saw it over the wings. He punched it. He got. He got. Find $100,000 for punching a player who, by the way, I don't know how you didn't punch. This is the dude who was, you know, traipsing into the end zone and just threw the ball down on the one yard line before he got in and cost the Cardinals the game. Not. That's not fair. But it did. It cost him the game.

[Brett]

Yeah, it did. At the end of the day, the.

[John Holmberg]

Beginning of the avalanche, which I think is the beginning of the avalanche of the season. And unfortunately, a guy like Jonathan Gannon, who I liked as a coach, showed some really poor coaching inability on Sunday. And now they hit him with a hundred thousand dollars for punching a player. Which, by the way, you can do if you've got a precedent set for fines. And they do in the NFL. They have a whole thing. And oddly enough, one of the things is altercation with a player that gets out of hand. There is a fine for that and there's a severity to it. Cardinals coach got hit with it. If you didn't see Demercado, he took two. He hit him twice.

[Brett]

He deserved both of them.

[John Holmberg]

Well, if you've got an Italian head coach, and I think Gannon might have a little Italian in him, he came from Philadelphia. I think you punch guys all the time. But Cardinal fans have to be torn on this one. Cause there's a player out there who just drops the ball going in to the end zone in a game that, you know, probably should have been sealed and goes back, you know, he was sad. He was down. I watched James Harrison and Joe Hayden. They've got a podcast together. And James Harrison said he'd be in jail if any coach did that to him. Well, guess what? No coach would have done that to you.

[Brett]

Right?

[John Holmberg]

That's. There's the. There's the pick your battles. I don't think James Harrison drops the ball going into the end zone and the coach punches James Harrison in the stomach. I just don't think you hit Debo that way. I just. I think there's certain dudes you're not going to do that to. DeMarcado took a shot and then a full on hook to the body when his head was down and turned. It was a cheap move. And I'm wondering if this is going to be a firing offense. Like I. This is.

[Brett]

If Kime held on to his. I would just go stand drunk.

[Byron]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Pull the Bruce Kelly. I like what you're saying. I'm an alcoholic. Think of this in any other job anywhere in the United States. If you throw a punch into the guts of one of your employees, wait.

[Brett]

For me Tripp to come in today.

[John Holmberg]

If Tripp's like, I don't know what you're thinking half the time with what you talk about. Get out of my office. I'm like, that guy A is going to get his ass kicked. B, I'm losing my job and I'm gaining all sorts of money in the lawsuit. It is, it's bad. And I think it's just the little bit of what will turn out to be a really bad thing if demarcado. And I gotta hand it to him because I still think he feels like an idiot. So he doesn't want his. He didn't want his name all over the papers. Well, I don't even say papers. You know what I mean? The Internet. I said, that's old timey term for news. All right. See, the man doesn't want his name in print, that's for sure. Brett. All right, we'll be right back with more ink spots after this. No, he doesn't want his name in the lights. So he's staying quiet probably at the advice of other people. But this, this, this teeter totter is tilting in his favor right now. And as the guy who they, you know, Woody Hayes was, is still a legendary coach in Ohio State and in college football. When I went back to Ohio State with Brady that time to watch Michigan, Ohio State, all they do on the billboard on the screen is put Woody hay stuff on. There's the punch.

[Brett]

There's any sound, though.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, there's. I don't either. But he just, he wanders over and just. He slugs him. He just slugs the poor guy right in the guts and then gets him.

[Brett]

On the way out too.

[John Holmberg]

But Woody's. Woody's face is everywhere in Ohio State. He's legendary. Absolutely legendary. And he got booted because a fan or a player finally said, dude's being a little rough. And then they got it on film of him smacking a dude around. Ohio State fans remember the name of the guy he hit that got Woody bounced. Now they were kind of looking for a way to get rid of Woody. At the time, he was old, it might not have been going the right direction, but he was still the legend, and you just can't do that. You just. And Bobby Knight, same thing. Got a little rough with the player. He's gone. And, you know, he was just yelling at guys, and they had a video of it where he got in somebody's face, he got a little physical, and you're gone. So Jonathan Gannon surviving. This is going to be questionable now, especially that former players have taken to podcast. That's the danger of podcasting and the brilliance of podcasting. Everybody's voice in social media, too, gets heard. All these. All these old players have now jumped on this Ida killed that mother bandwagon. And I think now this idiot move of a. Of a guy who dropped the ball is now in his favor. He's now been the victim of a terrible situation. And I don't know that Gannon makes it out of this. I. I know it's early in that. I don't think. I don't think they're going to tolerate it. I don't think the NFL, well, the Cardinals, would, you're right. But.

[Brett]

B o o h o o Bo.

[John Holmberg]

Hang on to the ball. You don't get punched.

[Brett]

You're a football player, for Christ's sake.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but you. There's a difference between being allowed to go out and hit another dude and having your coach come over and hit you in a soft spot of pads. Now, it's not going to hurt him. Yeah, he's padded up, but it's. There's that. It's like spitting on a guy. It doesn't hurt, but, man, it is a. Like, James Harrison said it best. James has two kids named James and Henry. And he said if that happened to me, I'd come home. It was very funny. He said, I go home and James and Henry look at me, and I'm like, hey, kids, clean your room. Like you, dad, you pussy. You're not. You don't do anything about. You let that man hit you on tv. And he's like, that's what he was most worried about. Even Joe Hayden, who's a skinny little cornerback, said, I know that dude wouldn't have hit me a second time. Yeah, it would have been over after the first one. Frank Kush, good. Jeremy, just Frank Cush of asu. Yeah. I mean, Frank Kush got in trouble. Legend Kush Field, for God's sakes. They named the field after the dude took a swing into dude you can't do that. I think Woody hit a guy on another team once too. That didn't help him. But I mean this kind of was like, ooh, did you see that Sunday? And by Tuesday everybody's like this, this is not good. Like this has to be dealt with. And they're dealing with it with a fine. I'm not so sure. Fines fix things all the time. And I think once that check clears, then the NFL goes in and says, by the way, does DeMarcado want to press charges? And it's a work environment. Everybody keeps saying that. It's a business, it's a business, it's a work environment. So you can't have that.

[Brett]

Well, then we might as well fire him and bring in a single Gilbert mom to be the head coach now.

[John Holmberg]

So you're for the punch.

[Brett]

Goddamn, he deserved it. Being an idiot. And if, and if it was that big of a deal, then he should have jumped up there and, and jacked Gavin right back.

[John Holmberg]

And I wonder, I kind of, you know, hypothetically, again, this is what a chick would do. But here's what didn't happen. But what if, what if he'd have punched Gannon back mountain at that point? Then everybody's out because Gannon gets fired if he punches him back. Because then you realize, oh, this, this alter, this got out of hand and he started it. You can't have a guy, you can't hit a subordinate with your closed fist. No matter what they're wearing, armor, whatever. You having an angry punch into a guy, it's. This is. And you punch back and then, and then you run that risk.

[Brett]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

He knew DeMarcusato is not a great big name in the league, that if he got physical with a coach there, he's off the team. But if he defends himself from a coach. Exactly.

[Brett]

Swinging, that would have been defense.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett]

There would have been no big deal.

[John Holmberg]

This one says John, do we need to just start handing out participation trophies again for all these pussies?

[Brett]

Exactly.

[John Holmberg]

Brett's with you. I don't know. I'm torn. I like the old school mentality of a coach knocking somebody around, but a closed fist punch is different than grabbing a guy by the shoulder pads and shaking him, even smacking somebody in the helmet.

[Brett]

The guy gets sacked by 300 pound dudes all day long. He can't take a hit from 160 pound. Gannon.

[John Holmberg]

Ye. Gannon's pretty strong. Okay, well, whatever. And it was a nice hook. It was a nice hook, Brett. And good form. Twisted the Hips. It was from the body. It wasn't an arm punch. It was a little loose, it was a little wobbly. You know, he's not a. He's not a fighter, but it was a little outside, but still he threw.

[Brett]

It's kind of a glass Joe looking guy.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Here's the other thing. He has a little glass Joe. Here's the other thing, though, Gannon, if I were to argue against this, threw a punch to his body. Knowing a punch to the head is bad and a punch to those pads gonna hurt my hand. So there's no arguing that he. Not only that, this wasn't just a loss of control, swing at anything, it was a calculated thought. I. If I hit him here, it won't hurt. If I hit him in the head, I go to jail. If I hit him in the pads, my, my hand will break.

[Brett]

It's a wake up call.

[John Holmberg]

It was a. I don't wanna say it was premeditated, but it was definitely thought out for that second. Now, it was.

[Brett]

You would have too, at that point.

[John Holmberg]

Right after seeing that game just get out of hand. That's the danger. Right. But here's the thing that, you know, in a courtroom, they would say, so if you had time to think about where to punch me. Had time to think about not punching him. Yeah. So. So I like you. This is why I like. He's a football player.

[Toledo]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

This guy said it's John under his period. A ton of bitching about a dude who plays football for a living. Tell John to take a Midol and shut up. No, why can't we talk about. We talk about football all the time. Why can't we talk about when this happens? I know he's calling me a pussy because, you know, let your boss punch you in the stomach and see if you go, boo hoo. I mean, punch him back and take your chances. Yeah, people don't think about that. They always see the tape later and then hindsight it and go, I'd have done this or that or this. You don't realize it's going to be a viral moment. You don't even know if it's on tape. So the only thing that would be on tape. And in football, a lot of the times the penalty goes to the dude who reacts. That could hold true in his brain. In life, too. A lot of times if he, if he'd have effed up Jonathan Gannon right there on the sidelines, people would have been like, my God, the player went nuts and beat the coach up. And they're like, yeah, but the coach hit him first. I'm like, I didn't see that. Then the dude's never going to work again. And you could have that happen at your work too. Trip lays one into my stomach and I beat the tar of the old fella. Suddenly it's elder abuse. You know, I've got these five. God. You know, he's got blood in his hair. He's wandering around like, what did John do to Trips? Like, he hit me first. Like, oh, you pussy. That's an older man. And I'm like, oh, no.

[Brett]

Eye for an eye.

[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

Dot Comberg's morning sickness. I don't mind your. I don't mind your theory.

[Brett]

All those hits I took in the Marine Corps, who do I get to call and cry to?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Yeah. Wait, you were in the Marines?

[Brett]

Oh, I was going to say.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Mark out of the Semper 5. Brad, I had no idea. Thank you for your service. But yeah. All the punches you took in the Marine Corps, but they pussied up the Marine Corps with this too.

[Brett]

The.

[John Holmberg]

You can't get hit in the Marine Corps. And they have.

[Brett]

And that's what's wrong with this world.

[John Holmberg]

That's right.

[Brett]

Ridiculous.

[John Holmberg]

More had get bread up on a soapbox. He's got a. He's got a campaign to punch people more often at work.

[Brett]

Jp what the F. John, stop being a pussy puss. It's football.

[John Holmberg]

I am not saying.

[Toledo]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

I'm against it. I'm saying you shouldn't do it in this world. In today's world, the smarter move is to not punch an employee. That's. That's just my point.

[Brett]

I think there's different rules for football.

[John Holmberg]

From a brain standpoint, no matter what. If there were different Rules for football. It would happen more.

[Brett]

It should happen more. When you do something stupid like that.

[John Holmberg]

You'Re digging your heels and you should be an executive at Hubbard.

[Brett]

I'm Brady right now.

[Toledo]

Digging Brady wouldn't dig in on.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, this one says getting a little physical in a physical game, get off your period. I'm not saying I'm disagreeing with the physicality. I'm disagreeing only with the idea that it's dumb and you might lose your job for it.

[Toledo]

Gannon came out, I think it was yesterday and said, not my best moment. No, I mean, he had to a little bit, but he's also had time to reflect.

[John Holmberg]

Right. And that's what all people who've done something wrong do.

[Toledo]

And he didn't realize that there's cameras everywhere at every NFL game.

[John Holmberg]

He did realize a lot when he balled up his fist and said, don't hit him in the chest, don't hit him in the head. That's true. There. There was a split second of thinking again, do I. Do I wish coach Tomlin would have punched what's my Johnson? The new rookie that just let the ball bounce in the end zone against the Seahawks. And I'm like, are you kidding me? Caleb Johnson is the name. And he just let a kickoff go into the end zone. He stood and watched it and Seahawks picked it up like, that's a touchdown. Cause like an on site. It went 10 yards and also had the new rules. It followed like five rules. This ball. And they would. I like Tomlin to go over and punch him in the nose. Oh, 100%. We all were wanting to punch the television, but, you know, you can't or it would. It would happen every week. If it was okay. It should. I think. I don't. I'm not against it. I'm not against coaches getting physical players. But the risk you run is like what James Harrison said. Dude punches me like that. This is not a coach player situation. I'll lose my job.

[Brett]

Well, then. Then there you go.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but that's why you can't have that. Could you imagine how many times Bears melees would have gotten people getting fired and cut and all he would have.

[Brett]

Got is he would have gotten beat up. Good, good.

[John Holmberg]

Imagine that.

[Toledo]

He'd be like Hawking we were looking at yesterday.

[Brett]

I hope it would be worse than.

[John Holmberg]

That the next time you'd have seen him. They probably shouldn't have hit my employees, but yeah, it would have been bad.

[Toledo]

I think Gannon actually had a sense of the cameras being all around him, which is why he kept his punch low to the gut.

[John Holmberg]

I think he just lost his mind for a second and regained consciousness while he was punching. Like, don't hit him in the pads. Don't hit him in the head. Just enough thoughts now.

[Toledo]

Somebody. Somebody brought up. I think it was on text. Somebody said, now what happens if he comes over and was talking to him angrily with his finger and then slaps him on the helmet? Like is common in football. Like, just kind of says, all right, let's go, or whatever. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

He had a guy in the helmet real quick with an open hand. You're like, come on. That's seemingly acceptable physicality. But this guy says two things. Smack bird upside his head and see what happens in the room. And two, what have you learned in tactical black? Very true. And deescalate what you got to have. D. Markado was like, all right, I want to kill that man for this. Right? Did he just punch me in the stomach? But I also know that the better situation in that is there's no more threat. It's no longer anything. I want to keep going and. And let him. Let him eat it. I just. I'm not saying I'm for Gannon's firing, but I'm saying, man, it's on the table now, and this is not going to get better before it gets worse. If it goes away, I'll be surprised.

[Toledo]

Well, we all know Brett concealed carries, so the slap to the head to Brett probably isn't going to happen in this room unless there's a last boy sc.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it could be pretty fun, though.

[Brett]

Well, let's just start playing flag football then for you pussies out there. Done.

[John Holmberg]

This guy says, at least it was just a punch. Imagine if the Cardinals had hired Mark Sanchez as their coach. Yeah, that's true. Sanchez would have just knifed the dude. That's very true. Ronnie Sears. Excellent point.

[Brett]

By the way, that Instagram post you said or sent to us yesterday with Sanchez throwing knives.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. No, that was Toledo. And they've. Now Mark Sanchez is becoming kind of a joke, so. Yeah, yeah, it's the. The smartest thing. I agree with Kyle. Just the smartest thing D. Markado can do is just shut up. If he bitches or complains, he's never going to play again. He'll become a problem.

[Brett]

This will be interesting.

[Toledo]

Well, he'll become a problem for whatever team takes him on, too.

[John Holmberg]

It will be interesting. I. I'm.

[Toledo]

I'm more playing in Dale's indoor football league.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Sean Rockefeller, blind listener, says I didn't see anything. Didn't look too bad to me. What's the problem? That's true. Blind. Blind people see.

[Brett]

Listen to Sean.

[John Holmberg]

Sean needs to be witness. His name is Sean Rockefeller. I didn't see nothing. I don't know. I heard a goo. And that was it. Yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm fascinated by the entire thing. I'll take you guys calling me. This guy says it's quote the subject says, signed John Holmberg. It's perfectly acceptable to take a crucial game moment and throw it in the cat crap box, then become confused when your coach loses his sanity. Sign John Holbrook. No. Is it all in good humor? I get you, J.B. you're good. Yeah, it's very. It's. Look, I don't know what I'd have done if Tripp punches me. I know for a fact after I giggle because it's going to get like. Like he poked the Pillsbury Doughboy. I can't imagine his. His swing has much sting less.

[Brett]

Let's go higher.

[Toledo]

What if Jenny came in and give you a little sock to the solar.

[John Holmberg]

Plexus floors with her? Jenny, Our owner mopped the floors with her. She takes a swing at me even if she just look in tactical black. This sounds arrogant. It's. But if I see you cock your hand back, I'm coming in with a jab, right?

[Toledo]

You're neutralizing the threat.

[John Holmberg]

If I'm cornered by our owner, Jenny and I. And I don't see an escape route and I can't deescalate situation. I watch her baller. A little hand up and it goes back like it's coming in. She's taken two in the face with the left because I don't think she's trained. Now she might go low and take me to the ground. Oh, but then I'm just.

[Toledo]

Don't give up your back.

[John Holmberg]

I'm going to heal hooker. I'm going to maim her.

[Brett]

So if Jenny Cannon comes in on.

[John Holmberg]

You or Jenny Gannon, Jenny Gannon comes and throws a bomb to the stomach. There's just gonna be blood. And Jenny.

[Toledo]

There you go. There you go.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not suing anybody. I'm. I'm taking her right in front of you boys. And you know what it would be to the like at first, like one of those 80s movies where everybody's just in horror. But then after I get up and her heart's in my mouth and I'm just standing around and everybody's like, what just happened? That one Lone person. It'll be tripped, too.

[Toledo]

Yeah. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Just slow clapping.

[Toledo]

I was gonna say.

[John Holmberg]

Are.

[Toledo]

Are we okay if we film or are we expected to intervene?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it would be great, too, because it would be like the mat. All of her Bobs would. Yeah, all of her Bobs would try to jump in, and they'd just be flying through the air because I'm in a rage. So I'd take out all the Hubbard Bobs and then just mop the floors with her. You ask. So I'm just giving you my scenario. I don't believe that Jenny's gonna hit me or attack me, but if it. But I'm saying just for the laughs. Yeah, but again, if your owner punches you in the stomach at work today, all these people calling me a pussy. It's football. That wasn't football. It was on the sidelines. That wasn't football anymore. You can't punch a guy on the football field. You get kicked out of the game. Okay, but you can't.

[Brett]

It's a man sport.

[John Holmberg]

But it has. But it's. If.

[Brett]

You know you're going to get a tattoo of a WNBA or Mercury thing here soon, because this. This is turning into That.

[John Holmberg]

I wore my son stuff today for Merc night. I don't have any merchandise. The. So if.

[Toledo]

The.

[John Holmberg]

If a dude walks up to Caleb Williams and just slugs him on the field, you're not going to go, where's the flag?

[Brett]

If he deserves it, he deserves it. Oh, you mean on the opposite team.

[John Holmberg]

That's different football. There we go.

[Brett]

Something different.

[John Holmberg]

Football fans are such pussies. Deep down, it's like McCoy goes the trans interference.

[Brett]

No, no, no, no.

[John Holmberg]

He hooked him.

[Toledo]

Just admitted.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, we cry like Caleb Williams punched on the field.

[Brett]

His boys to go over and beat the hell out of that guy. That's a fair. You're goddamn right.

[John Holmberg]

Kick that out of the game. That's what I'm saying.

[Toledo]

Olin Kreutz defended his quarterback a couple of times.

[John Holmberg]

You punch a guy on the field, you're kicked out. The coach punching on the sidelines. There's ramifications for that, and they're big.

[Brett]

Not when you deserve it.

[John Holmberg]

I agree. You can still deserve the punch. But there's ramifications. It's like free speech. Brett, you're free to say it.

[Brett]

Absolutely.

[John Holmberg]

There's consequences.

[Toledo]

100 and even deep down, you know, as much as you're digging in your heels, you know that this is the right way to handle this.

[John Holmberg]

He knows.

[Brett]

What?

[John Holmberg]

You know, he just went dumb.

[Toledo]

What? Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly like he's watching a porn. If you play football, you're gonna get hit. Go play flag football, you sissy bitch boy. There you go. All right, But. Okay. I don't know what team you cheer for, Matthew, but I know for a fact exactly if your team. He punched him. The guy needs to get you kicked out of the league. You should be kicked out of the league. That's what all. If it happens to your team and that's on the field even as much.

[Toledo]

As you hate Kyler, if he goes down like that, you're. You're bitching for the foul.

[John Holmberg]

I'd had no problem. The dude just laid. Laid out Gannon right there.

[Brett]

I'm not saying that's wrong either.

[John Holmberg]

No, no, that would have been correct. That would have been absolutely.

[Brett]

No, I'm not.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but when. And I never understood a player that takes a swing at a dude in a helmet. Dale and I talk about that all the time. It's like he's like, I prayed for dudes to get mad enough to take a swing at my helmet. They'll break their hands. It's just. I don't get it. But you're still getting kicked out and nobody goes. These are. They're like, that guy deserves. You punch a guy and everybody's saying.

[Brett]

Oh, it's just football.

[John Holmberg]

It's football. All right. Well, that's why there's no punching.

[Toledo]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Is because it would constantly be a brawl. Yeah. That wrecked the game. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the hell out of it. This guy says, f that your plan's dumb. Boss punches me, I'm taking a soccer dive and screaming for hours. I'm going to sue the hell out of everybody. Yeah, it's probably a better way. Mopping the floors with Jenny. But here's the thing. If your boss.

[Toledo]

Red card.

[John Holmberg]

If Jenny, the owner, punched me and I mopped the floors with her, but I. I knew for sure I had backup of people saying they saw her.

[Toledo]

You need to make sure that then.

[John Holmberg]

I can also sue. So I get the satisfaction of mopping the floors with the owner and suing them. And they got deep pockets. So a billionaire punching you in the tummy is like the greatest because you can crush them now and then sue them.

[Toledo]

Would you in. In this day and age, would you take the first punch, look around and then say, all right, everybody's watching. And then. No, because then you're goat her into a second punch.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah, I might. I might. I might do the Muhammad Ali, George Foreman.

[Toledo]

He's dead.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, you got old lady and just piss her off to heaven. Just rear back and throw another one and then it's a melee. I don't know how this happened, but here we are. Jesus Christ pussies. Brock gets his ass viciously beat up every night and this pussy and pads can't take a jab from a coach. That's right. Barack Obama is nightly raped by his wife. Big Mike. Thank you David. Somehow or another Obama snuck into the conversation and it's a legitimate argument.

[Brett]

Like Obama getting his butt.

[John Holmberg]

Obama might be the toughest dude in America. Yeah yeah. The yeah, he might be the Republicans will hate here. And that might be the toughest man in America. The things he goes through for fun.

[Brett]

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[John Holmberg]

Dot Comberg's Morning sickness. This one says Israel. I like piling on. You guys make me laugh. Hey Holmberg, is your soccer jersey size a large? Since you became a pussy today, I'm going to get you a thanks. That's funny. All right. And this guy's right to demarcotto should thank Gannon. Gannon hitting him probably saved his job. They can't cut him now. He gets another chance. He gets to be on the team. He gets a check. Probably would have been the end of his career otherwise. That's an excellent point.

[Toledo]

Getting any carries.

[John Holmberg]

That punch kept him around. That's. Yeah.

[Toledo]

I mean it's. You call it quiet quitting or whatever, he's going to sit on the bench. He ain't getting in the game.

[John Holmberg]

Jim Lord is a pussy like me evidently goes you know, that's if I hit an employee, I lose everything I've ever worked for. You can't hit people at work.

[Toledo]

Right?

[John Holmberg]

I agree. When sue stopped on that packers player in 2011, I argued he lost his balance as he was with the Lions. And this guy's a Lions fan because he was just losing his balance when someone kicked Stafford. I wanted his head on a pike. Yeah. His family out on the streets. Yeah.

[Toledo]

You only can sue did it again with the Dolphins. Everybody went, see.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. This one says, I actually like that Gannon chewed the dude the F out basically because he cost us the game on a 75 yard one. What we should be talking about is how effing soft Bidwell is for finding him. For aggressively holding Demarcato accountable. Yeah. The punch, it changes everything.

[Toledo]

Was a big.

[Brett]

Well to find him. Or is it the NFL? That part?

[John Holmberg]

I think the NFL.

[Toledo]

Well, the NFL Players association is involved. They're investigating. I don't know what there is to investigate their investigators.

[John Holmberg]

Remember though, when Bruce Arians for the Bucks. I don't know. He didn't even hit the guy just kind of swiped across his helmet and got a $50,000 fine because they're, they're very careful about coaches making. Putting what James Harrison said, do not put your hands on me. Because you're not talking about the physicality of it. You're talking about the demoralization of a man. Yes. And these dudes are amped up alpha males. So you're not. You put your hands on a dude in an alter like when you're supposed to be on the same team, suddenly it's different. You don't. It's like a woman at that point. You do not put your hands on them. It's bad. I'm not you. Ah, you mother almost made me call you a bunch of Tom Brennamans. Well, let's put it you, Tom Brennaman's out there can suck it.

[Toledo]

If Calais Campbell picks up a fumble and runs it back and drops it at the one yard line, is punching the six foot eight Kaleus Campbell.

[John Holmberg]

Like what? Harrison said, coach does that to me. I'm losing my job. Like. And Joe Hayden said, nobody's doing that to you.

[Toledo]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Joe Hayden is a mini man. He might have had it happen to him. It's a good. It's an interesting. It's an interesting like dilemma that maybe will just go away. But I. After the fine yesterday, I don't think it goes away. All these old players come out now that the. Now that the video has kind of gotten everywhere because it's a Cardinal game. No one was watching the Cardinals and Titans outside of Cardinal fans.

[Brett]

No one Kyler was happy about this.

[John Holmberg]

Oh yeah. This takes the heat up and Marvin Harrison. Marvin Harrison would have dropped the punch.

[Toledo]

A hike bouncing off his face mask and then him just kind of dirt in a ball that was. There was nobody in there.

[John Holmberg]

Look, if this isn't about Kyler's poor performance, they were up 21 to 6, but this thing fell apart.

[Brett]

I mean, in general, with the dog thing and everything that's going on with Kyler right now, it takes the attention off of him.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it does for a minute. But to your point, this.

[Toledo]

This kind of stains Gannon too. Like, if they fire completely. I mean, he's a good coordinator completely. Bringing somebody else in, it's like. What's his name for the Saints? He was. He sat down for a while after that whole investigation for the Super Bowl.

[John Holmberg]

And you go back to that Cardinal fans, the bounty gate that happened in New Orleans.

[Toledo]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

I remember some Cardinal fans going coach again. This is football. It isn't some sort of weird streak that. Okay, funny. Here we go. When Kurt Warner got laid out and they paid him 50 grand to hurt laid out month multiple times with that game. Then they knocked him out of the game. And you get. You get a reward from your coach back then for the Saints, when he would do that. Was his name Greg something? Yeah, I don't know.

[Toledo]

Greg Williams.

[John Holmberg]

Greg Williams, that's it. Yeah. And he was the one who was paying the bounty for knocking dudes out of games.

[Toledo]

And then he took a job in Cleveland and he couldn't really recover.

[John Holmberg]

No. Eventually that one hits, but, you know, I don't remember a whole lot of these. You know, if I'd have said, yeah, man, that's the way the game's played. It's physical. If you get hurt, you get hurt people.

[Toledo]

You can't do.

[John Holmberg]

You can't go trying to hurt people. Oh, okay. I'm the. Yeah. 100 grand, though. That's a pretty Cardinals that. This one said. Adam Schefter said the Cardinals are firing Jonathan Gannon. So.

[Toledo]

Finding. Not firing. Right.

[John Holmberg]

Finding. Finding.

[Toledo]

Oh, okay, just clarify.

[John Holmberg]

Finding 100 grand for his altercation. Oh, it's a weird one. It's. It's a weird one.

[Brett]

Didn't Bidwell get his ass beat by his wife or was that somebody else in the Bidwell?

[John Holmberg]

One of the Bidwells did. He was. Remember, he was drunk at a like a fourth of July party, and his wife beat the tar out of him inside the house. And he stood in the. He stood in his cul de sac. And the cops.

[Toledo]

Camera, don't call anybody. I'm not giving you my Name?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he's. At first, he wouldn't.

[Toledo]

Do we have to.

[John Holmberg]

Do we have to talk about who I'm Todd Bidwell.

[Toledo]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

No one knows about me when I pretty much live enough.

[Toledo]

I'm the black sheep.

[John Holmberg]

I don't really know anything about football and kind of. I like the ballet. I remember his name, but he got knocked around.

[Brett]

This one went to you. Can you imagine if Pete Carroll punched Geno Smith after one of those 524 picks?

[Toledo]

This year's having a bad year.

[John Holmberg]

Good. John is definitely the mommy of the show now. You can't hit. And then Brett says, shut up, broadcast. Whoop his ass. Thank you, Brett, for being the only one who let your nuts hang. That's right. If that's what your nuts hanging means. Okay. Swing low.

[Toledo]

Never thought I'd come full circle. And you're a Gilbert mom now.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I'm a Gilbert mom now. I can't believe it. Poor little kids. These goons on the sidelines. Gannon's a goon. Jonathan Goonan. That's funny. I stand by what I say despite your terrible behavior. And by the way, you've hurt my feelings. And that just makes me. That just makes me emotional. I'm calling Mark Curtis and Troy Hayden. I'm going to be on the news. We're having a. We're having a city hall about this.

[Toledo]

Shoes are you going to wear?

[John Holmberg]

I'm going to wear nice ones. I'll probably have my new. I do have a new pair of LeBron's and I'm not a big LeBron. I bought some LeBron's because they're the design. They're Jordan LeBron's, but they're very cool. I will say this, though, when you buy the new LeBron's and their cool design, their structure of how they do the laces, within a day broke. They have these. Yeah. So I was like, ah, typical LeBron. Let me down again. But they look good. I might wear those on TV because they're new. All the other Gilbert moms be like, oh, I've got to get a pair of those. That'll be the envy of all Gilbert. I have a new idea, too. You want to be famous and you don't. You want to be infamous? Actually, no. You'll be famous, but you don't. Like. I'm trying to find ways, like all these people are trying to do something loud and stupid and then get their names out there. You know, it started with, you know, infamy has been around for a long time. People Try to do that. I just figured out as this headline crossed my phone this morning. Phoenix drag performer accused of sexual conduct with child he met online. He's gonna be on Fox News every day and his name's gonna be synonymous with this. It's a terrible crime. But if you wanted to get your name, you want a little fame. And you will be on the news every day if you dress in drag and commit a crime. Not something as awful as that, right? But go out and rob a Walgreens and then start screaming something crazy inside the Walgreens and then giggle your way through this like you only take like 400 worth of stuff dressed as a woman. And Fox News will have you for months on there.

[Toledo]

Who?

[John Holmberg]

Remember that lady in Phoenix or that man in front of that thing. They'll lose their mind. Your name will all be out. So if you're looking, if you're nuts, nuts. I'm trying to help people who are nuts. If you're nuts and you want fame, dress and drag and do something dumb. That's all you have to do. Because Fox News loves that. I watched them for two hours yesterday, had it on the background while I was doing some stuff. And all they talk about is drag queens and inner city crime. It's like if you watch, if you watched Fox for more than an 30 minutes, you get information you'd buy. In two hours you're just sitting there going, I'm not going outside ever again. It was the most fear based stuff I've ever watched in my life. Then it turned into Bad Bunny and he's a transvestite and they lost their mind over him. And they just then. And look, I'm not political. And people always go, you're a Dem, you're a, you're a Republican. I mean, we have somebody in this building who's, you know, said, my wife has a problem listening because you're so right wing. And I'm like, man, let me ask this question to Republic. What is wrong with you that Bad Bunny can't be at the halftime show. He hates America. You don't know that for sure. He didn't come here because he doesn't like the ice thing. He's also American. Do we not know that? Puerto Rico. And they asked Eric Dickerson because he said he shouldn't do it. If he hates America so much, he should go. And they told him, you know, Puerto Rico's America. He goes, yeah, no, Puerto Rico's America, but it's not the America. And I'm like, well, yeah, it is our stepson, but it's still ours. And so he's American. He's not going to get deported. Whoopi Goldberg goes on and starts saying, talk with an accent and get a tan and go hang around the super bowl and see if ice bothers you. And that's kind of funny to me because it is. We've lost our minds. The super bowl performer is now got people hinging on whether or not they can tolerate football ever again.

[Brett]

Who cares?

[John Holmberg]

I didn't want Lady Gaga to do the halftime show. I have no idea if Maroon 5 hates America behind the scenes. When did we get to this point? And they started in with the trans thing. And I realized at that moment, all you have to do to be on TV every single day and have your name and lights and you don't have to hurt a soul is to dress in drag and do something dumb once. That's it. Dress up like a woman. Go out and knock an old lady down. And then. And then, you know, quietly help her up. Turn the video off. Are you knocking her down? And then help her up, say, sorry about that, give her 50 bucks and walk away. But that video gets sent out. You're never going to stop seeing it. They love when trans people say or do anything goofy. And you would think the streets are crawling with trans people committing crimes. I found it. Hysteric.

[Toledo]

Want to really blow their minds. Start talking about Kim Petras doing that.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God. What would they do if Kim pet.

[Brett]

Why Those cans in HD on the 75 inch I watch, I jerk off.

[John Holmberg]

To it and it would dry. And Republicans hate that. You gay. Like, no, I'm not having sex with its butt entertainment. I like that lady's cans a lot. Now a reconstructed vagina sends me into another stratosphere of, like, confusion and not knowing. But I bought him out. There you go.

[Brett]

Bottom out.

[Toledo]

Yep.

[John Holmberg]

So long as I would be like, it looks real. I feel the same way about, like, a kit car. Is that a Ferrari? No, it's a kit car. It looks real. I think I want in it. Same with Kim Petticoat.

[Toledo]

What if it looks like that exploding cigar we saw yesterday in Brett's video?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, the vagina.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Then the doctors did a terrible job. But doctors do terrible jobs on boobs sometimes. Some people get those double boobs. They get weird boob on top of boob. It's not a.

[Byron]

It's.

[John Holmberg]

And they look real in clothes.

[Toledo]

The little balloon wrinkles.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know what that is. Yeah, they gotta figure that out. Like science has gotten. It has to advance to the point where we don't get that wrinkle skin and boobs or the double bubble and. Doesn't make sense. But yeah, just dress in drag and do something stupid and you'll be on TV all day long. I don't understand why Republicans lose their mind. Yesterday, the speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. All that's going on. Was talking about Bad Bunny at halftime and then suggested, because his finger's on the pulse, maybe Lee Greenwood should do it.

[Byron]

What?

[John Holmberg]

What kind of halftime show would that be? For the masses. He said, we need somebody who's got more mass appeal. Well, you saw, like, Lee Greenwood, dude, that's one song because that's all he's got. And what's massive?

[Brett]

Another song.

[John Holmberg]

He doesn't have one.

[Toledo]

He does, but they're.

[John Holmberg]

No, he doesn't.

[Toledo]

They're all fading.

[John Holmberg]

No, he doesn't. Holmberg's morning sickness. Medicate K U PD Holmberg's morning sickness. He doesn't have another song Anybody would hear and go, oh, this is mass appeal. Awesome. What about that? He's like, if you want mass appeal, maybe we should go to Lee Greenwood for the halftime show. Okay, maybe before the thing. But when he sings, it's at a Trump rally. It's never to a crew of, like, everybody.

[Toledo]

The song was recorded in 1982. He doesn't sound like this now.

[John Holmberg]

It doesn't matter if he's good or not. What are you thinking? Go fix the shutdown. You're worried about Bad Bunny at halftime? And I watched. It was 35 minutes. We have no air traffic controllers.

[Toledo]

That's the thing.

[John Holmberg]

And I know you're gonna email me. Well, the Democrats. I know it's both of them. They're both stupid as f. Completely stupid. And we're arguing about Bad Bunny at halftime.

[Toledo]

Enjoy flying into Burbank with San Diego controlling.

[John Holmberg]

I don't want. I'm not getting on one right now. Because if the air traffic controllers are the last people you want to piss off and they're calling in sick to work because they're not getting paid. They're like, well, if I'm not getting paid, I'm doing doordash and stuff.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And. And so you got, like, a group of dudes who aren't real happy that are still going in because just out of loyalty, eventually there's going to be an effort moment. Right. It's crazy.

[Brett]

This Bad Bunny thing's ridiculous. Like, I've always said, vote with your dollar. You don't like it Change the goddamn station. They won't send the NFL a message.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly. You know, turn your TV off. And by the way, you have to be family for it to matter.

[Brett]

It's already done. They're not going to change it because they love it.

[John Holmberg]

The NFL loves this. Fox has given them all this like Bad Bunny press and people are gonna be.

[Brett]

We are right now.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly.

[Brett]

But people.

[John Holmberg]

People are going to be like, what is this about? All the old people that didn't know what Bad Bunny was. Like, my friend's dad comes to my Steelers games. He's 80 something. His name's Skip. What we got some sort of up there for halftime. But he'll watch and go this here. Look at him in his close like it'll. His hate will fuel.

[Brett]

His son too.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, well, his son. Yeah, yeah. The whole family is built.

[Toledo]

They say about Usher this last.

[John Holmberg]

It's in their blood. Oh, when. When the weekend was on. Chris is the. Every year they announce who's on the halftime show. My friend Chris goes, well, Metallica ever get a shot? I'm like, no, they won't. They're 60 year old men who appeal to 50 year old men. They're not mainstream anymore. They're a classic band that maybe gets a piece, but they're never going to headline.

[Brett]

Disagree.

[John Holmberg]

Bull.

[Toledo]

They're Mata Hoople for our generation that's digging.

[John Holmberg]

Oh my God.

[Toledo]

You.

[John Holmberg]

I'm on Chris's side. They're not Motta Hoople. All the young dudes. Do you think 30 years ago anybody's going Motta Hoople should do halftime because it's similar. Metallica's bigger than Motta Hoople.

[Brett]

All the young.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, all the young dudes is like Mike Johnson would love it. Lee Greenwood, Little Mat, the Hoople. I mean, what are we waiting for? It shows how out of touch they are that we're mad about Bad Bunny because dudes in a dress. But that's not new David Bowie. I mean this, this dude. This isn't a bad song.

[Brett]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

You don't like Montau? This is a cool song. David Bowie wrote this.

[Toledo]

Let him sing it then.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not sure if that's Mont or the Hoople singing, but yeah, it's a little strange voice. I like this. Very boyish. You don't like this?

[Toledo]

So.

[John Holmberg]

I don't want to hear it at halftime.

[Brett]

No, I don't want to hear it now.

[John Holmberg]

And it's singing about being gay, I think. Because all the young dudes.

[Brett]

Definitely would be a Bowie.

[John Holmberg]

It's A. It's a Bowie. Yeah. Either way. I don't know how you compared Metallica to Monta Hoo, but you pissed me off. That's a Toledo thing. I didn't do that. Dick move. Yeah, I. I don't know. It's just. It's one of those things where I just watched yesterday, and I'm like, this is why people have lost their minds. This is why everybody's goofy. It's because if you spend. Why is that doubling up?

[Brett]

What's that noise?

[Toledo]

It's doubled up.

[John Holmberg]

Nothing's playing. Okay, this. This place is haunted. I just turned everything off. And here we go.

[Brett]

Scanning that computer.

[John Holmberg]

You know what I might scan in this thing, but I'm at work, and the smart thing to do is to not punch it. Although I do punch a lot of electronics and then get accused of it. Did you punch that? No. Did you punch that and wreck that? It was broken. No.

[Toledo]

Innocent until proven guilty.

[John Holmberg]

Do you have film of it? No, we don't cameras in here? No, of course I didn't punch that. Anywho, so it's got a divot in it. Yeah, I know.

[Toledo]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

I must have leaned on it. I'm pretty heavy.

[Brett]

I blame Sean Knight.

[John Holmberg]

I think Brady stumbled in here and sat down on the. Hey, it's broke.

[Toledo]

I like Brett's idea.

[John Holmberg]

It's bro. Sean Knight did it. Yeah. Blame his subordinate. What? Why am I. Why am I losing my job? Shouldn't have punched the board. What? Shut up, Sean. Get out. Anyway, the message I was having here is, stop watching your favorite thing, Republican or Democrat, for hours on end. Because, man, it's easy to fall in line and just go, are there that many transvestites? Fox had me wondering. And I wasn't even watching. It was just on in the background. I'm like, is there that many transvestites? And it's a damn rain delay.

[Toledo]

Are you looking at your neighbors a little different?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I do. They're up to something. They're. They're trying to indoctrinate me. And if I also. I don't understand that. It's like they're going to make our kids gay. I'm like, I don't know. Like, you should have more of an influence over your kids than Bad Bunny's halftime show. And if Bad Bunny's halftime show makes your kid gay. He was gay. Yeah. I just don't get it. Speaking of gay, I guess the weather. The weather's nice enough to be prideful now.

[Toledo]

Oh, have you Seen it look like Pride threw up downstairs.

[Brett]

Oh, I missed it.

[Toledo]

There's evidently there's an area of the downstairs that is getting ready for next weekend.

[Brett]

Oh, is that the parade again?

[Toledo]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Oh, Jesus.

[John Holmberg]

And they are getting ready. Well, I mean, but the problem I have with it, and I laugh, is that you can't be prideful when it's hot. June is Gay Pride month, and that's when all the parades happen everywhere. We wait here till October. We, we, we move it. It's retroactive pride. You can't be pride when it's 105. It's like, ugh, I'm not that proud right now.

[Toledo]

What do we do in June? See us in October.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. They basically are like, not here. We're not proud until around Halloween. And so downstairs is just. Cause Katie KB has just become the single gayest thing ever. And even gay people are like, guys, you're pushing it. It's a little far.

[Toledo]

Well, wait till you see what they've got planned for next weekend.

[John Holmberg]

The rainbow flags in this building are everywhere. And you can't like, like, here they come.

[Toledo]

You know how we have boxes of our bandanas, right?

[John Holmberg]

It's all gay flag.

[Toledo]

Triple of that are gay flags downstairs.

[John Holmberg]

Which I'm all fine with them, but man, I say this to the gays and as a platinum member of your club has never been abused, but would do it mainly because women don't make as much money as men. So it's appealing to me to have a dollar for dollar situation going on. The. The economics of homosexuality a lot better than heterosexuality reality. Plus, I think two men getting a divorce wouldn't be where's mine? I think they're both like, I got some, you got some. Let's just get out of here.

[Toledo]

What do you do with the tv?

[John Holmberg]

That's about what it would be pretty much like. Well, there's multiple TVs in a man's house. So you'd split and both guys would be like, well, I earn a dollar for a dollar and you earn a dollar for a dollar. Women would be like, I get half. I don't know that gays do that as much. I've seen some gay divorce and I don't think they. They didn't fight for half as hard. They just left. And then I think they still blew each other because they're. Dudes are like, I'll blow you one last time. I'll even angry blow you. But I definitely want one of those either way. Yeah, it's getting crazy down there. With this. And if you're gonna have a Pride Month, it has to be every. Like, you can't. You can't move it. So gays of Phoenix, you live in Phoenix. Pride is in June. You're proud in the heat now take your Pride parade right to the W Hotel pool or something like that. Or, you know, rent it out. But you can't move pride and close streets in October when I want to be outside. That's all they're doing. They just want to be in heterosexuals way to show how proud they are. And I'm proud that you're proud. That's good for you. But Pride month is in June. And if you're really prideful. I saw a couple of Pride parades back in June on tv. There were rain and not men. This time it was rain and rain. You have to do pride when they say pride. And Phoenix is like, no, it's too hot to be proud. We'll do it in October. No. Nope. You can't clog up the streets when we all want to be outside.

[Brett]

So it's prideful when it's convenient. Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Convenient. Pride. Convenient. Pride is not the answer. Be proud up in June. March inside like they do the farmer's market. They take it right inside. On Wednesdays and Saturdays. It goes indoors because it's too hot to be outside.

[Toledo]

Take over the madhouse on McDowell. Let them walk laps in that.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. Call All Pro Shade.

[Brett]

Walk in any room.

[John Holmberg]

Call all Pro Shade and shade Central Avenue and March in June. But your Pride Month is June. If I go down Central for the next two weeks in my neighborhood, I have got to be up there. And I have to divert or I've got signs closing streets that I got to end up on 10th street, go around Thomas and go back just to go to the Windsor to have a gay hamburger. I want a goddamn Pride Month. When it's Pride Month, don't surprise people.

[Toledo]

Is it only on Central? The parade?

[John Holmberg]

No, they're everywhere. But Central's a big one. And October old heterosexuals drive around. What the hell these roads closed for? You're surprising the straight old people.

[Toledo]

That's right.

[John Holmberg]

And you're gonna make people come into town. You're gonna make them not going to cause more trouble.

[Toledo]

Don't think Mesa has a parade.

[John Holmberg]

Yes, they do. Everyone has one.

[Toledo]

I think they do.

[Brett]

Downtown, I'm pretty sure.

[John Holmberg]

But this one says maybe the smell of gays in June keeps gays away from each other. If the swamp balls, I don't care. You guys as a group, pick June as your pride month. Be proud in June. Be proud every day. But no parade.

[Toledo]

But still, it's not like they leave Phoenix in June. You're used to the heat in June.

[John Holmberg]

Mitigate. Yes. You live here. You chose to live here. This is where pride happens for you. Palm Springs didn't move it. It's hot there too.

[Toledo]

Really?

[John Holmberg]

No. Vegas has pride stuff in June because they got a lot of pools, right?

[Brett]

You know what? I hand it to Mesa. They actually do it in June.

[John Holmberg]

Hey, there you go.

[Brett]

They actually did it in June at night.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. They're going to do another one.

[Brett]

Well, I'm sure they will.

[Byron]

But.

[John Holmberg]

Anyway. Gay.

[Toledo]

DJ Pooty Cat.

[John Holmberg]

Look, that's right there.

[Brett]

They're having a plant sale.

[John Holmberg]

You just sold two tickets.

[Toledo]

I know.

[John Holmberg]

I'm going to DJ Pooty Cat, right? I don't know. I just.

[Toledo]

My empanadas.

[John Holmberg]

Empanadas and Pooty Cat. Forget it. Yeah, I just. In your mind, when you hear DJ Pooty Cat, you picture him.

[Toledo]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

And he is rainbow bright. He's rainbow bright in a big hat and like weird helmet under his hat that has goggles that are rainbow tinted and. And like glitter shoots off of him. And occasionally that thing, that thing from NBC that looks like the more, you know, star that goes through the sky just all around him at all times. DJ Pooty Cat is. He's on my. I'm going to Apple after the. During the break. I'm going to Apple, check out Pooty Cat. Anyway, gays, don't muck up traffic for your pride because it's convenient. It's inconvenient for us for you to be prideful when the weather's not.

[Toledo]

Stop being prideful.

[John Holmberg]

Stop it. You live in Phoenix. Pride isn't in October. Yeah, yeah. Be prideful in October. But no street closures.

[Brett]

I think that's DJ Pooty Cat.

[John Holmberg]

That's DJ Pooty Cat. That's a fella.

[Toledo]

Not what I expected.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know what that is. DJ Pooty Cat's got it together.

[Toledo]

Mix and mingle.

[John Holmberg]

All right. Watch Booty Cat one of these days. It's a lady. I was really wrong about what DJ Pooty Cat looked like. Like, that's DJ Pud talking. This day is celebrating his one year anniversary. She's doing a promotion for some club. She's Pooty Cat Mat. All right. Anyway, let's get a wake up song, shall we? A good one. And we'll scream it together. It's 98K. Wake up.

[Toledo]

It's not weird. It's pretty cool, actually. No membership fees.

[John Holmberg]

I have heard enough of this.