10-14-25 - Emailers Pissed At John For Not Being Angry About The Bad Bunny Halftime Show As We Remind Them About The Androgenous Music They Loved

Summary

Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness, 10-14-25

Episode Title: Emailers Pissed At John For Not Being Angry About The Bad Bunny Halftime Show As We Remind Them About The Androgynous Music They Loved
Original Air Date: October 14, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, (briefly) Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo

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Overview

This episode revolves around John Holmberg's reaction—or lack thereof—to listener outrage about Bad Bunny performing at the Super Bowl halftime show. Several listeners critique John for not being more incensed, particularly over what they perceive as Bad Bunny’s androgynous image and "trans" associations. The crew digs into the hypocrisy of this outrage, referencing androgyny and gender-bending in rock and pop music through past decades, especially the glam metal era of the 1980s. The hosts urge listeners to "hate for the right reasons," dissecting what actually bothers people about artists and why these debates persist across generations.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Listener Outrage Over Bad Bunny’s Halftime Performance

• Start [00:15]: Holmberg notes a flood of angry emails about Bad Bunny. Some accuse him of hypocrisy, claiming he criticizes other pop culture elements but is too accepting of Bad Bunny.
  • “John, you crap on the 311. Ugh, the WNBA and Guy Fieri with every waking breath. But now you're 100% on board with this Spanish tranny soy boy. What gives?” ([01:04] Listener email)
• John clarifies that he’s not a Bad Bunny fan but doesn't understand the hysteria: “I just don’t understand the fear.” ([01:07])
• Brady asks, “Why now are you mad?”—referring to Bad Bunny’s 10-year career suddenly becoming controversial ([01:03]).

2. Comparing Androgyny in Music Across Decades

• John highlights the androgynous, gender-bending trends in 70s and 80s rock:
  • “If we’re gonna get upset about transsexuals in rock, we’re gonna start chopping up that old record collection drastically. The entire 80s—Metallica, Bowie, Jagger…all of metal in the 80s was glammy girl hair and makeup—Poison.” ([01:30]-[02:10])
  • “I wanted to bone half of them on the album before I found out.” ([02:16], John)
  • “Rob Halford…” ([03:03]) — direct shout to the famously gay Judas Priest frontman.
• Brady adds, “Pet Shop Boys…Boy George…Elton John. Rod Stewart.” ([03:28]-[03:36])
• John reflects, "Everything I listened to [in the '80s] was kind of on the [gay] or it was actually gay." ([03:36])
• Bottom line: “If you’re upset that he’s representation of trans…grab a mirror…and go through your record collection and start kicking out all the ones that might have sucked a weenie—you’re going to be there a long time." ([03:46])

3. The Double Standard and ‘Right Reasons’ to Dislike an Artist

• John pleads with listeners to “hate for the right reasons”:
  • “Hate his music, fine, but your argument falls apart when you say, ‘I don’t want to accept this trans movement.’" ([04:30])
  • “Music’s always been a bunch of twinkie weirdos.” ([04:44])
• Brady and John riff on album covers from Orleans, Ambrosia, Queen, and Poison, ridiculing their hyper-feminine, campy styles ([06:06]-[08:13]).
  • “Those dudes are on coke, blowing each other. ([06:38], John)
• Notable: Audience member Phil writes, “Bad Bunny sucks. Nothing to do with his heritage. I just think he sucks in English or Spanish. He’s el Sucko.” ([06:38]-[06:52])

4. Satirical Takes: The Real Reasons to Hate Artists

• John jokes about people hating artists for superficial reasons—Wardrobes, faces, and the like, not their sexuality or gender expression:
  • “I don’t hate somebody for their clothes. I will hate you for your face.” ([10:13], John)
• He riffs on how silly it is to get worked up over a halftime show at all:
  • “Isn’t it a little gay to get worked up about a halftime show? That is a little gay, too. It’s football! Halftime’s the time to piss, grab a beer...” ([10:48])

5. Halftime Show Cultural Anxiety: Familiar Patterns

• The crew draws parallels between current outrage and past generational cultural panics:
  • “Now you turn 60, 55 and you’re like, ‘These kids today with this rock!’ That’s exactly what you used to hear all the time when you were a kid.” ([02:38])
• They poke fun at Latino/a anti-Bad Bunny rhetoric in Arizona, noting how cross-cultural tensions manifest even when many listeners can’t understand the lyrics ([07:01], [12:08]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Everything I listened to [in the '80s] was kind of on the [gay] or it was actually gay. I liked George Michael when I was a kid...I had no idea.” ([03:36], John Holmberg)
• “Go back and look at the Poison album cover...and tell me Bad Bunny’s worse.” ([02:46], John)
• “Music’s always been a bunch of Twinkie weirdos.” ([04:44], John)
• “I will hate you for your face. Like, if I like J.J. McCarthy of the Vikings. I can’t. I just don’t like him because of his face.” ([10:13], John Holmberg)
• “Isn’t it a little gay to get worked up about a halftime show?...Halftime’s the time to piss, grab a beer, laugh, talk about the game and just see what goes on.” ([10:48], John Holmberg)
• “Don’t hate him because he’s gay. Hate him because you have a hard-on watching.” ([07:29], John)

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Key Timestamps

• [01:03] — Listener email: Why aren’t you angry at Bad Bunny?
• [02:10] — 1980s music and androgyny parallels
• [03:36] — John’s reflection on his “gay” taste in ‘80s/‘90s pop
• [04:44] — “Music’s always been a bunch of Twinkie weirdos.”
• [06:38] — Phil: “Bad Bunny sucks. … He’s el Sucko.”
• [07:29] — “Don’t hate him because he’s gay. Hate him because you have a hard-on watching.”
• [10:13] — “I will hate you for your face.”
• [10:48] — Satire: Being angry about the halftime show is “a little gay.”

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Conclusion

In this episode, John Holmberg and crew use humor and honest self-reflection to dismantle listener outrage over Bad Bunny’s gender expression and presence at a prime American pop culture event. They urge the audience to recognize their own generational hypocrisies—reminding them that androgyny, queerness, and flamboyance have always been present in the music world, especially in the acts many now-vocal critics worshipped as teenagers. The hosts champion the right to dislike music for “real” reasons—the art itself, not identity politics. The show is irreverent, fast-paced, and sharp-tongued, as always, with several classic digs at the excesses of both current and past pop culture.

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For those who missed it:
You didn’t miss any deep scandal—just a wry takedown of cultural hypocrisy, a lot of nostalgia, and a reminder that the “weirdness” folks rail at in pop music today is nothing new. If you like your radio with a dose of self-aware snark, it’s a classic episode.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

There you go. It's Metallica right there. One here in the morning sickness right in the middle of this app contest. Bucks. Bucks is the name of it. Brett had to leave again. He's got to. He's got some family stuff. He's got to tote people back and forth, appointments and things like that. So we. And we just watched Brett drive away in a Subaru. That's weird to see. It's one of them sports car Subarus, though. I didn't know they made those. I didn't know. Lesbians like to go fast. But evidently, I guess when they're moving in with each other after their second date, they have to lickety split, expedite that process. And when I say lickety split, you know. You know what I mean? Boy, these. I get a lot of emails. People just mad at Bad Bunny. I think the world just told them. Do you know Bad Bunny's been around for like 10 years, right?

[B]

Why now are you mad?

[A]

I'm so angry. It says, john, you crap on the 311. Ugh, the WNBA and Guy Fieri with every waking breath. But now you're 100% on board with this Spanish tranny soy boy. What gives? Look, I didn't say it was 100% on board. I just don't understand the fear. And here's the other thing.

[B]

He was okay. And he's funny Gilmore, too.

[A]

He's. No. No one was good in that. Don't take it back.

[B]

That's where my anger started.

[A]

All right. Is that where you got mad? He's an Happy Gilmore, too. He's funny on Saturday Night Live. I didn't watch this most recent one, but when I saw him before, I'm like, he's pretty good. If we're gonna get upset about transsexuals in rock, we're gonna start chopping up that. That old record collection drastically. The entire 80s. And we just played Metallica back in the 80s, they called them. You know, they were trannies and girls and their long hair and everything. This is a common problem. You're turning into Bowie. Yeah, David Bowie, Mick Jagger. Oh, no. How many dudes? You want to talk about it, though? I mean, all of metal in the 80s was glammy girl hair and make it poison.

[B]

Sure. Yeah.

[A]

I wanted to bone half of them on the album before I found out. So if we were. If we're upset that he's representation of trans. I guess there's a little uproar. There's an uproar. But come on, it was the 80s. You had people from 1904 still mad. And everything about us in the 80s was like, Ah, they don't know. They're stupid. And now we're doing it. Now you turn 60, 55, and you're like, these kids today with this rock. Like, that's exactly what you used to hear all the time when you were a kid. Yeah, but Poison was different. Those guys were good. Go back and look at the album cover. Look at the cat Dragon. And tell me Bad Bunny's worse than.

[B]

That Brett Michaels blowing you a kiss.

[A]

I'm not. Yeah, he. And they flirted with you, and they kind of thought about it for a second.

[B]

Wink.

[A]

Rob Halford. So if we're starting to get in on the whole gay thing as to why Bad Bunny's not good, let's grab a mirror real quick and spin that around. And just. That's. I'm not a Bad Bunny fan. I don't know what he's saying. I don't speak Spanish. But he's not threatening to me because I lived through the 80s. That was the gayest time ever.

[B]

Pet Shop Boys.

[A]

Oh, my God, we're the 80s gay. I go back and I look at my head, my hands, just my head. I go, no wonder my dad thought I was gay.

[B]

Boy George.

[A]

Everything I listened to was kind of on the or. It was actually gay. I liked George Michael when I was a kid. I'm like, the guy can sing the phone book. I had no idea. Elton John. Look, Elton John. Rod Stewart. People who are angry at Bad Bunny for the trans thing, calm down. He doesn't speak English. Okay. You don't have to like it. I'm just saying the whole trans thing is kind of not an argument. Or go through your record collection and start kicking out all the ones that might have sucked a weenie, because you are going to be there for a long time. Long time. And while you're at it, I saw.

[B]

The additional campaign, the hate for Bad Bunny at the New York Yankees game. They showed him. Oh, they booed him because he's sitting during the America.

[A]

Oh, was it. We'll see. That kind of crap. Yeah, he's just not making any fans that way. Hate him for the right reasons. I'm all about hating stuff. Hate them for the right reasons. Though your argument falls apart when you say, I don't want to accept this trans movement. I'm like, then you need to delete all your 80s, because all that was was cross dressing. Weirdness in the 80s. All of it strange stuff. Music's always been a bunch of Twinkie weirdos. There are tons of it. All those dudes in your high school that, you know were mad at their dads and grew their hair out long and smoked. They'd cry at the house.

[B]

Metrosexual.

[A]

Oh, well, no, that was in the. That was when it got weird. It did get a little weird. We weren't celebrating metrosexuals in the 80s. We were just liking it now. I didn't hear. I didn't hear if the most recent Saturday Night Live was funny. But he doesn't write it, so it's not his fault if it's terrible. It's just, can he perform the stuff given. I'm not saying he's, you know, Richard Pryor, but he seems affable and likable. Puts a dress on now and again. Kind of funny that way, too. But yeah. I mean, we don't want to go back in time and start saying, these trannies can't sing. Oh, I gotta get rid of a lot of records. All I'm saying is calm down, have a laugh. What if he comes out in a dress and, like, trips on it and Bad Bunny eat on tv? That would be like a dream come true for even me. And I'm not rooting against him. I just don't care.

[B]

His best move would be to bring.

[A]

Out Lee Greenwood if he sang in Spanish. Proud to be an American. I would. I would tip my cat and bunny. You knocked that one stiff. Well done. Go back and look at the Poison album cover. Go back. And this guy Kevin is right. Kevin Stivison said. Go back and Google Ambrosia's album covers. I think Orleans is the other one. Those two, everybody just dudes.

[B]

Dudes with their shirts, queen anything from the disco era.

[A]

All those dudes are on coke blowing each other. So we just be mad at him for the right reasons. We hate his music. Fine. That's what Phil says. By the way, bad money sucks. Nothing to do with his heritage. I just think he sucks in English or in Spanish. He's el Sucko. Yeah, Phil's. You're right. I don't necessarily get it either. I don't. I don't.

[B]

They announced it.

[A]

I was like. All I thought was, oh, boy, here we go. They're clamoring for that international audience. Andrew says I speak full Spanish, and I have trouble understanding what that guy says in his songs. Yeah, I speak English. I can't sing. All of them do.

[B]

And Poco wore Dickies.

[A]

Was going through old album covers we'd have to get rid of. He's got an ascot on. Dude, I, I, that's gay. That's one of the gayest things I've ever seen. Don't hate him because he's gay. Hate him because you have a hard on watching. What's the one is Orleans.

[B]

They got their album cover shot.

[A]

70S 80s 70s wasn't nearly as gay as the 80s 80s is.

[B]

There it is.

[A]

Look at that. Oh yeah. Orleans just naked. Yeah. Hate it for the right reasons.

[B]

And there's one that you can be mad about.

[A]

The Village People. You're right. I forgot about that. These twinks have been screaming for years. The Village People were Donald Trump's rally song. What's wrong with everybody?

[B]

Ambrosia.

[A]

Ambrosia is a solid one. Vinnie Vincent. This guy says, remember Vinnie Vincent? I think he made a Bruce Caitlyn switch. I don't know if that's true, but doesn't surprise me because musicians are fragile, strange people, very weird. They grew their hair out long and everybody thought they were gay. Elton John's one of my favorite artists ever. If he did the halftime show at Sewer, people would love it. He's worse than Bad Bunny when it comes to that. Would anybody say that if, if Elton John was the halftime show. Ah, this tranny twink. Would anybody be mad? I don't think anybody care if he sang in Spanish and he did. Nikita, you will never know.

[B]

Ricky Rocket. Look at what Ricky Rocket is doing to you on that album cover.

[A]

The Poison album cover is four girls that I wouldn't have a chance with back in the 80s unless they were on Method. Well, maybe, maybe, maybe. I get a meth bj. They're beautiful. I didn't like Poison because one of the dudes named himself C.C. deVille and I'm like, your name is Cadillac Coupe DeVille, you idiot. Anyway, people are all over me. You're all over this guy? No, no, I'm not 100 in love with Bad Bunny. I just understand your hate. You know, he boned Kendall Jenner for a little while, which means our guy Devin Booker's igloo brothers with him. Eskimo brothers. Sorry. Well, they share the same igloo. Does that make Devin some sort of. Did he catch it? I don't get it.

[B]

The crew album has two girls on it. Identify him.

[A]

Oh my God. I wouldn't know. I'd have to bone my way to the bottom to find out. Anyway, I'm. Look, you know me at this point. It's been a long time we spent together. I hate a lot of stuff, but I try to hate for the right reasons. I hate because things suck.

[B]

I hate. And terrorists first go around.

[A]

Yeah. But I don't hate somebody for their clothes. I will hate you for your face. Like, if I like J.J. mcCarthy of the Vikings. I can't. I just don't like him because of his face. The dude who's playing Bruce Springsteen in that new movie, that Jeremy Allen White. I can't look at his face. I. I just want to punch him in his rat face. I don't know why that is. I've had that. My dad had that for Stockard Channing. He would announce people he just couldn't look at. We've all got that. Which one's that? Pantera. Super gay when they first came out. Wow. They love being in tights and gays. Anyway, also, it's. This guy's right. Adam's right. Isn't a little gay to get worked up about a halftime show. That is a little gay, too. It's football. Halftime's the time to piss, grab a beer, laugh, talk about the game and just see what goes on and then talk about it the next day, going, wow, did you see that twink bouncing around at halftime? What the hell was that? This is an interesting question. Do you think Brady's dad ever called his mom Bad Bunny? I bet. I bet your mom was Bad Bunny.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[A]

She. Get on all fours and hop over here. Bad Bunny. Oh, Tor. Pathetic. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. Hold on a second. Bad Bunny's eating, so we'll feed you in a minute.

[B]

Grilled cheese.

[A]

Bad Daddy's gonna eat, too. Thank McDonald's for VIP grilled cheese. I swear to God, that kid will be the death of me. Anyway, we got the hot releases coming, but Brett had to leave early. Maybe Bad Bunny will have a new album out and your minds will explode that way. Not.

[B]

Not this.

[A]

Yeah, could be. I bet he does come out with something big. Oh, boy. Oh, Bad Bunny. What you have stirred up and now you can't even mention. What's the big deal? People lose their minds. You listen to rock music.

[B]

I've heard a Bad Bunny song.

[A]

Maybe you have. Guarantee you have. You wouldn't know it because it's in another language. So you just. You roll up your windows most of the time, think you're in a bad neighborhood. It's my own car. If you hear a Bad Bunny song. You. You're probably leaving. Oh boy. Yeah, yeah. Cause the stabbins are soon in your brain. You're like, people are gonna start getting stabbed now. I'm in a food city. Like you won't know why you're there. I better get out of here. There's a lot of Jaliscos. Yantara, roll them up. There's a Bad Bunny song.

[B]

Just here to get some fresh salsa.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, excuse me, Holmes.

[A]

Hate him for hating things you like. But I don't get the whole tranny thing. Because if you're in rock music, boy, you can't hate the gay because it's all over it. Trust me, we've seen it. We got the hot releases coming up in just moments. Again, the word is bucks this morning. Get on that, on the app. It's 98. He's out of control now.