10-14-25 - Entertainment Drill - TUE - 50th Anniversary For Bill And Hillary Clinton Has People Comparing Her Old Photos To Sydney Sweeney

Summary

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Holmberg's Morning Sickness – Entertainment Drill: Comparing Hillary Clinton to Sydney Sweeney & The Science of Scariest Movies

Episode Date: October 14, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, (brief mentions of Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo)

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Episode Overview

In this segment of the "Entertainment Drill," Holmberg and Brady bounce through the latest pop entertainment news, focusing on the hilarity and absurdity of Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton's 50th anniversary photos going viral—especially as people on social media bizarrely compare young Hillary to actress Sydney Sweeney. The hosts also run through the results of a "science-backed" list of the scariest movies, poke fun at M. Night Shyamalan's projects, comment on Apple TV's rebranding, and riff on the attractiveness of First Ladies. As always, the segment is peppered with rapid-fire jokes, irreverence, and a healthy dose of skepticism.

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Key Discussion Points & Timestamps

1. Gun Retention and Self-Defense Classes

00:00–03:23

• Holmberg underscores the importance of not just carrying firearms but actually training to retain and handle them correctly.
  • “No one ever trains about that. You train shooting, you train learning how to shoot the gun. You ever train how to hang on to it in case somebody tries to get it from you? It's remarkably different than what you think.” – Holmberg [01:18]
• Anecdotes about holster safety, carrying in the waistband ("dumbest thing you can do"), and how classes gave Holmberg pause about carrying himself.

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2. The Science of Scariest Movies (2025 List)

03:23–05:51

• Brady introduces a study measuring heart rates while watching scary movies.
• The hosts discuss how some movies use jump scares vs. a "slow boil" psychological approach.
• Top 5 science-backed scariest movies:
  • 5. The Conjuring
  • 4. Insidious
  • 3. Skinamarink (2022)
  • 2. Host (2020)
  • 1. Sinister (2012) [04:55]
• Holmberg is dismissive of jump-scare approaches:
  • “Scary movies are the same way. If you shut a door and there's a guy behind it... Not a fan.” – Holmberg [03:54]
  • “I like movies that slow boil to scared. Like Silence of the Lambs...” [05:03]
• Brief digression into "Black Rabbit," a show Holmberg finds anxiety-inducing.

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3. Magic 8 Ball Movie & M. Night Shyamalan

05:51–06:24

• Brady reveals a live-action Magic 8 Ball movie is in the works, directed by M. Night Shyamalan.
• Holmberg snarks:
  • “Look forward to an amazing trailer and a terrible movie because that's what M. Night does.” [06:05]
• Written by Brad Falchuk, “best known for being Gwyneth Paltrow's husband,” which is news to everyone in the room.

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4. Apple TV Drops the "Plus"

06:24–06:57

• Briefly, Apple TV+ rebrands to Apple TV.
• Holmberg recalls seeing a business called “batteries plus plus”—teasing the absurd escalation of “+” branding:
  • “With one plus you can't have two pluses, can you? Without something in between them. You can't just put plus plus next to itself.” [07:01]

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5. 50th Anniversary for the Clintons – Viral Photo Comparisons

07:09–11:09

A. Social Media Compares Young Hillary to Sydney Sweeney

• Brady brings up social media chatter comparing young Hillary Clinton's old photos to actress Sydney Sweeney.
• Holmberg is immediately incredulous, roasting the comparison:
  • “Now they're comparing her to Sydney Sweeney in a way that it is that she is alive. And that is where the similarities end, my friend.” – Holmberg [07:23]
  • “She looks like a saw mask.” [07:26]
• The hosts question why anyone would even think to make this comparison, suggesting it's a political reach.
  • “Who is comparing Hillary Clinton to Sydney Sweeney?” – Holmberg [07:48]
  • “It's still Hillary Clinton. Ugh. Still Hillary Clinton. Nope, nope. I'm seeing the same thing. Boy, you'd have to make me look for it to see it. I would have never been shown those photos without prompting and said, boy, she looks like Sydney Sweeney.” – Holmberg [08:44]

B. Broader Commentary on First Ladies' Attractiveness

• Holmberg says Melania Trump is the only objectively hot first lady, regardless of politics:
  • “And we're looking at Melania and people like, how dare you? Like what? There is one great looking first lady of all time. Politics aside, Melania is hot, period.” [08:23]
• Pops off at the absurdity of using AI to “young up” Hillary, or trying to retcon attractiveness:
  • “No hot First Ladies existed since the development of photography other than Jackie. And I'm putting Melania way ahead of that modern day hot. Jackie's eyes were too far apart. She looked like she should be in Finding Nemo. Melania pretty straightforward, A little mean looking, but I kind of like that. Hillary is not in the argument.” – Holmberg [10:01]
• In typical show style, it gets darkly comedic:
  • “I'd take Jackie with chunks of brain on her before Hillary. Thank you. Proud of that. What is this Brain. It's still better than Hillary. One of them gives good brain, I'll tell you that. Hey, Hillary. I had to go elsewhere for that.” – Holmberg [10:49]

C. Who's Spreading the Comparison?

• Brady cites “mostly feedback from the girls from The View.” Holmberg jokes, “the View would go nuts over this because they're no—” [09:09], trailing off into laughter.

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6. Memorable Quotes & Notable Moments

• On jump-scare horror movies:

  • “Smile and Smile 2 were seven and a half, eight, and seven on the list again.” – Brady [04:16]

• On Clinton photo discourse:

  • “Maybe Sabrina Carpenter, but not Sydney Sweeney.” – Brady [08:41]

• On the lasting meme of First Lady attractiveness:

  • “I don't want to see [Hillary Clinton's face] before either.” – Holmberg [07:16]

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Tone & Style

The hosts use a loose, riff-heavy conversational style, poking fun at internet absurdities and Hollywood tendencies with irreverence and a touch of snark. No topic is too sacred, from gun safety to First Lady looks, but it's all played for laughs with a local talk radio flavor. Political jabs (at both sides), pop culture hot takes, and off-the-cuff quips abound.

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Summary Takeaways

• The entertainment news segment covers viral comparisons between Hillary Clinton and Sydney Sweeney (which the hosts universally mock as ridiculous), the science of scary movies (with dismissals of jump scares), a jab at M. Night Shyamalan's unpredictable film quality, Apple TV’s rebranding, and irreverent debate over which First Ladies qualify as “hot.”
• The tone is fast, sharp, and sardonic, with ample side comments and visual gags.
• Anyone catching up will get not just the entertainment headlines, but the distinctly biting viewpoint of the HMS crew.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

It's amazing weapons handling to begin with.

[A]

Weapons handling is great. Yeah. And shooting tests and things like that. I'm all for, like, something like that, but man, oh, man, that gun retention thing for people who carry. And people who carry are super responsible. They should want to do that because it was eye opening for me. I don't carry a holster, but I have a concealed carry permit. But I. If I had a holster. One of the reasons I won't carry is because of the classes I was at. I'm like, I'm just not real good at that right now. I want to get better at understanding.

[B]

I keep mine in the waistband.

[A]

Smart. And it's the dumbest thing you can do, but yeah, if you want to do that too. A lot of people stuff it in the back of their pants. Ridiculous. You learn to be a little smarter about being smart. It's a really good thing. And you get out there and they'll teach you all that stuff. Plus, you get in good shape while you're doing it. Probably won't ever need it. But much like people said yesterday in Tempe, why would I ever need to, you know, have a guy come take a look at my roof? It's fine. And we don't get big storms around here. Okay, well, tell that to the Yucca Tap Room, who we've got videos from that just.

[B]

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[A]

Probably every once in a while have your roof inspected. Same way with your body and your brain. And that's what they do. Reactdefense.com they'll take care of you. It's the home of tactical Black Brady Entertainment.

[B]

The Science of Scare project came out with their 2025 list of the scariest movies according to science. So the test subjects they had wear heart monitors. Wouldn't it be funny throughout each movie screening?

[A]

So it's not movies that are scientific. So the. According to science, the scariest movies of all time could still be like Freddie Trudeau Exorcist probably still gets people.

[B]

The Exorcism of Emily Rose.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Was the only one on the exercise.

[A]

But that's got a bunch of like shut doors and ghosty moves and big bangs. And I don't like scary movies. That to me, that's like hot wings. Hot wings that are just hot for the sake of being hot aren't tasty. But if they're really hot and they taste good, that's better. Scary movies are the same way. If you shut a door and there's a guy behind it that wasn't There a second ago. Just the bang. Spook factor. Not a fan. I'm glad Brett's not here.

[B]

Smile and smile. Two were seven and a half. Eight and seven on the list again.

[A]

Same thing, just big loud noises and quick cuts.

[B]

Top five, the Conjuring.

[A]

First one's good.

[B]

Number four was Insidious. Number three, Skin a Mirink. That came out in 2022. Never heard of it. Number two, Host came out in 2020.

[A]

Cinema. What?

[B]

Skinna Marink.

[A]

Skinnima Rink. Like a cinema. Skinima.

[B]

I don't know, I mean it's.

[A]

I don't know it.

[B]

Number one was Sinister 2012.

[A]

Yeah, I prefer movies that make me.

[B]

I'm sure we'll hear about the Skin of Marine.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. I like movies that slow boil to scared. Like Silence of the Lambs has that. I don't like movies that are jump cut scary where like something fast flashes across.

[B]

Yeah. You think that would be the ones that would get your heart rate up?

[A]

Yeah, the ones.

[B]

Well, but I guess throughout the rest of the movie, not so much where maybe these are just constantly.

[A]

The ones that just go building are the ones that make your heart go so you'd flutter. Silence the Lambs doesn't have a heart rate flutter. I'll tell you what got my heart going though. I don't know if you guys have watched it. Black Rabbit. There's. That's so anxiety drenched that like you just sit there like, oh, somebody would you just do the thing? Right? Stop being stupid. It's crazy. Just turn Vincent in.

[B]

A live action scripted series based on the Magic 8 bar. Eight ball is in the works. And M. Night Shyamalan. Shyamalama Ding Dong is directing it.

[A]

What's it called?

[B]

Magic 8 Ball.

[A]

No. So look forward to an amazing trailer and a terrible movie because that's what M. Night does.

[B]

It was written by Brad Falchuk, who was best known for being Gwyneth Paltrow's husband.

[A]

That's the first I'm hearing of both of those things.

[B]

Apple TV plus is dropping the plus from its name.

[A]

They're cured.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

No longer positive. It's just Apple TV again. You know, my favorite thing is there was a. I forget what the store was. I drove by the other day, but it was something plus and then had the plus sign. So it was plus plus. Like you don't write out plus and add a plus sign. I can't remember what the store was. And I started laughing like that's too many pluses.

[B]

Batteries plus plus is it batteries plus plus.

[A]

Is that it? I'm like, that's why so many pluses. I get it. With one plus you can't have two pluses, can you? Without something in between them. You can't just put plus plus next to itself.

[B]

Hillary Clinton and Bill, they celebrated their 50th wedding anniversary.

[A]

Can you believe it?

[B]

Brady, did you see the throwback pics?

[A]

No. I don't like to look at her face now. I don't want to see it before either.

[B]

Comparing her to Sydney Sweeney. And no, they're not Carpenter.

[A]

Now they're comparing her to Sydney Sweeney in a way that it is that she is alive. And that is where. That is where the similarities end, my friend. Let me tell you that who is compelled? Maybe they were looking at me and they thought I looked like Sydney Sweeney, but not that wife of mine. She looks like a saw mask.

[B]

Tay Tay Swift's Life of a showgirl sold 4 million copies in the first week, which is a record in the modern era.

[A]

Who is comparing. I got a mad. Who is comparing Hillary Clinton to Sydney Sweeney?

[B]

Pull you up the photos.

[A]

It's no. And Sydney Sweeney's face isn't that great. But I always thought Rebecca de Mourner.

[B]

I don't see the Sabrina Carpenter as.

[A]

Much, but Rebecca De Mornay was a beautiful version of Hillary Clinton. But we won't say that Trump's wife's hot. We're that politically divided that we'll go dig pictures up of Hillary and say she's hot and nobody can fight it. And we're looking at Melania and people like, how dare you? Like what? There is one great looking first lady of all time. Politics aside, Melania is hot, period.

[B]

Hillary didn't have any. She went to AI Young Hillary.

[A]

No, these are doctored.

[B]

Maybe Sabrina Carpenter, but not Sydney Sweeney.

[A]

No, there's no. That's still Hillary Clinton. Ugh. Still Hillary Clinton. Nope, nope. I'm seeing the same thing. Boy, you. You know, you'd have to make me look for it to see it. I would have never been shown those photos without prompting and said, boy, she looks like Sydney Sweeney.

[B]

I think it was feedback mostly from the girls from the View.

[A]

Yeah, the View would go nuts over this because they're no.

[B]

That.

[A]

Even side by side. It's not even a thing. Sabrina Carpenter's got kind of a strange face. No, no, no, no.

[B]

Not happening.

[A]

No, Hillary has always been goofy. Look, you can dig and find the greatest picture of Hillary or, yeah, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and it would still not be the in the category of hot. Those are the three best pictures I've ever seen of her. There's plenty of them. Back in her days in school when you're like, what was Bill thinking? I was not. I was thinking, I'm going south on all of them. And she just happened to stay 20s.

[B]

Jackie Kennedy. John. She's better than Melania Trump.

[A]

But Melania is still hot in the argument. I'm with you on that. We can have that discussion prior. Otherwise you're just dragging first ladies in for no reason. And don't you dare throw big Mike at me. Lady Bird. Lady Bird is an out. No hot First Ladies existed since the development of photography other than Jackie. And I'm putting Melania way ahead of that modern day hot. Jackie's eyes were too far apart. She looked like she should be in Finding Nemo. Melania pretty straightforward, A little mean looking, but I kind of like that. Hillary is not in the argument. Maybe if Brady's Ladybird's back in there. Because I'll go ladybird versus Hillary and we can fight because I don't know which side I'm on. I'd take Jackie with chunks of brain on her before Hillary. Thank you. Proud of that. What is this Brain. It's still better than Hillary. One of them gives good brain, I'll tell you that. Hey, Hillary. I had to go elsewhere for that.

[B]

Man. Those eyes of JFK just before the.

[A]

Shooting, eating that sandwich and getting jelly on him. We talked about that when you weren't here last week. I was. I watched that 100 times. My favorite part of the video of the video of JFK eating that jelly sandwich in Dallas. Is that his first words? Ah, shucks. I peed my pants when he dropped that jelly on his shirt and said, shucks, I have ruined this shirt. What a crappy day this is gonna be. Oh, you'll survive, John. And then they just drive off. It's great. Anyway, what are you gonna do? Trying to compare Hillary to hot people Now, I believe there is an agenda. Before I wasn't in on the deep state, but if that's there. No, now I think there is one. Alex Jones was right. There you go. That's it. Larry's coming up next. Fitz will have more money chances for you. This place is just exploding with love. And you guys can be the ones collecting. We will catch you tomorrow right here in the Morning Sickness. It's out of control now. It's John Holberg here from the morning sickness for lifechangerloan.com. a guy I know is going through a divorce, which stinks for him. He's trying to figure out how much it's going to take to pay off the future ex wife. You got bills you want to consolidate, you got some stuff you want to take care of, Go ahead and do it. Or if you're just really good with money and you want to get out of that mortgage as fast as possible, Life Changer Loan is the way to do it. Average Customer saves about 250,000 in interest. House is paid off in about five years. Life changer Loan it's not magic, it's just math. Lifechangerloan.com.