10-16-25 - Dodger Fan Goads Brewer Fan During NLCS And She Lost Her Job Fighting Back w/An ICE Comment - Casey Says If BJs Were Prizes On Game Shows Guys Would Have A Tough Choice

Summary

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Holmberg's Morning Sickness (98KUPD)

Episode: 10-16-25
Date: October 16, 2025

Episode Overview

The hosts (John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, and Dick Toledo) discuss recent viral moments stemming from sports fandom, specifically centering on a Milwaukee Brewers' fan who lost her job after an altercation with a Dodgers fan during the NLCS. The episode blends social commentary on outrage culture, the pitfalls of modern fandom, and the hazards of viral shaming. The show also segues into a comedic exploration of relationships and male psychology, capped with the hypothetical of "Would guys rather have money or a BJ as a game show prize?" as well as some inside-radio industry talk about ratings.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Outrage Culture & The Digital Age (01:43–04:10)

• The Problem with Always-Online Outrage:
  John laments how we're living in an era where everyone has something in their phone that could offend someone if it leaked.
  • "Everybody's got something in their phone. That would offend some group. So let's pull the sticks out of our asses and stop going after everybody for that kind of stuff." (01:58)
• Auto-deleting Threads:
  Holmberg jokes that if you're in a group chat with the likes of "Brady, Brett, or Doug… delete every night before bed." (02:36)
• Social Media Impact:
  The hosts discuss how public shaming and viral videos are weaponized, making private disputes into national news.

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2. Brewers vs. Dodgers Fan Incident Breakdown (03:43–09:37)

• Recap of the Event:
  A Brewers fan, Susan Kobalarchik, was taunted by a Dodgers fan, and in response, made an "ICE" comment on camera, leading to her job loss.
  • "The only reason she lost her job is because people at her. And she also had to retire from her position at the Make a Wish Foundation." (04:23)
• Consequences & Fairness:
  The hosts stress that it's excessive to lose your job for losing your cool at a sporting event.
  • "You can't do it. So an apology would have worked." (05:26)
• Fandom as 'Tribal' and Irrational:
  John rationalizes the irrationality of sports fans, suggesting sporting events are heightened environments and we should expect some venting.
  • "You don't screw with people's tribal fandom. We're irrational. You are an irrational person." (04:50)
• Strategic Silence Advice:
  Dick Toledo chimes in with practical wisdom:
  • "Got the argument and the scoreboard. Yup. You don't fight back when your road guy is winning." (07:54)
• Judging by Looks & Stereotypes:
  The show tongue-in-cheek references the woman's "Karen haircut" and how visual appearance often primes audiences for outrage.
  • "Her look doesn't help her at all. It's a trap. Your haircut makes you – back to judging a book by its cover, which works 95% of the time." (09:09)

Notable Quotes

• On escalation and entrapment:
  • John: "It's a trap. I'll be honest with you. It's a trap. I don't think it's fair. Yeah, you got akbarred on that one. That is a massive trap in a huge way." (09:06)
• On women vs. men fandom:
  • John: "Of course it's a woman will do it because men fandom is usually physical. Women fandom is — I'm going to say a horrible thing. She lost her job, she lost her position." (08:51)
• The Camera Rule:
  • John: "If a dude is filming something and trying to get your goat and you fall for it, you're going to get fired. Responding's your worst option." (07:20)

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3. Sports, Stereotypes & Social Satire (11:00–12:16)

• On Dodgers Fans & ICE Jokes:
  The hosts riff satirically about Dodger games being an "ICE hot spot", parodying both the stereotype and law enforcement sting operations.
  • "If ICE wanted big numbers, they just hang out at Chavez Ravine." (11:47)
  • Holmberg is quick to note the non-malicious intent, but skewers the absurdity of the outcomes.

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4. Relationships & The 'BJ Game Show Hypothetical' (14:26–21:18)

• BJ as the Ultimate Male Prize:
  John reads a message from listener Casey and embarks on a hilarious (and earnest) riff: if BJs were a game show prize, men would have tough choices to make.
  • "If blowjobs were a prize on game shows and you were on Wheel of Fortune and they gave you the option of playing for money or a blowjob from Vanna, it would be a decision you'd have to think about." (14:51)
  • "We’re a simple creature. Quit reading self help books, ladies… He’ll listen if you – all you have to [is give a BJ]." (15:35)
• Monetary Thresholds for a BJ:
  The hosts debate the point at which cash outweighs the story of a BJ from Vanna White. Keeping the tone light and irreverent, Holmberg lands here:
  • "I think if I got that [$45,000], I would take it over the Vanna BJ. But anything less than that, I'd consider the BJ and the car." (19:40)

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5. Radio Industry Inside Baseball – Ratings & Demographics (18:02–19:08)

• Radio Ratings Quirkiness:
  Discussion about how listener demographics are "weighted" in ratings. Listeners from certain backgrounds or platforms can count much more, affecting the station’s numbers.
  • "If somebody was Gutierrez and they listened to kupd, you’d get the equivalent of like five white people." (18:41)
  • "With the app...it only helps little bits of things. It doesn’t help, like, actual rate. It’s very difficult system." (18:20)
• Headphones Don't Count:
  Advice to listeners: stop listening on headphones if you want ratings to count; "Turn it up. Make other people hear it too." (19:06)

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Memorable / Comedic Highlights

• "You got Akbarred on that one"
  Referencing Admiral Ackbar’s famous "It's a trap!" to describe being baited in public altercations. (09:06)
• "When you cut your hair like that, you’re pretty close to losing your job anyway..."
  Holmberg’s roast on the “Karen” archetype (09:37)
• "If blowjobs were prizes on game shows... it would be questionable to be on a game show, like, even the Deal or No Deal, and you walk out of there with a couple hundred grand. And then all the models with the suitcases came in and said, we'd like to blow you for that money. You're like, yeah, I'm gonna have to think about that." (15:15)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:43 – “Sticks up your ass” rant & the universality of offensive phone threads
• 03:43 – Breakdown of the Brewers-Dodgers ICE incident and fallout
• 07:20 – Advice: if someone’s filming you, do not engage
• 09:06 – “It’s a trap”: The existential risk of responding in the viral age
• 11:47 – ICE and Dodger fan satire
• 14:51 – BJ as a game show prize and the psychology of the straight male brain
• 18:00 – Radio industry demographic weighting and listening habits
• 19:40 – "Vanna White BJ” vs. “$45k cash" analysis

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Tone & Takeaways

With irreverent humor and pointed social criticism, Holmberg and company dissect how public shaming, digital virality, and cancellable moments distort both sports and social reality. The panel's tone is candid, self-effacing, and often outrageous, blending pop culture riffing with real talk about sports, relationships, and how easily anyone can get ensnared by a trap of their own passions.

If you missed the episode:
Expect laughter, snark, and unpredictable (but sharp) takes on sports fandom, viral shaming, blowjobs-as-tension-solvers, and why radio ratings are as weird as ever.

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Transcript

[A]

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[A]

Let me introduce the world to something awesome. And again on our talk this morning about you know, everybody, the sticks up your ass. People who act like they don't have any threads in their phone, they're bad, making this national. You know, I was watching last night and I think it was somebody on cnn. It was that awful woman, Erin Burnett. I can't look at her face. I just don't like her face. And so she's like these young Republicans started a text thread and they are dumb. It was dumb to be prominent political figures in certain areas saying what they were saying. But it just begs the like, she's got threads in her phone with Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon about silly stuff that would offend someone. Everybody's got something in their phone. That would offend some group. So let's pull the sticks out of our asses and stop going after everybody for that kind of stuff. And also a reminder that we all need to be smart and auto delete all of the threads again. If you're in a thread and it has anyone named Brady, Brett, or Doug in it, it's time for. Or Paul. Sorry. Or Paul, it's time for you to just delete every night before bed when you check your alarm. Should probably do that right now. Delete. I did it. Did you? Of course. Delete it all again for my personal thing. And also, I have a friend named John Chambers. If John Chambers ever text me or I have to delete that almost immediately after, just in case something horrible happens in the phone. It's that. Have you seen that one Instagram thing where the girl's like, are you cheating on me? And he's like, no, I don't know why you're bothering me.

[C]

You are cheating on me. Let me see your phone.

[A]

And then he kind of does a thought bubble of his last few texts with his friends.

[C]

Just let me see your phone. Why don't you let me see your phone?

[A]

He's like, yeah, I'm cheating on you. Will not give the phone because of his talk to his friends. But you've. Everybody's got that group thing. Let me introduce you to a woman who is now in trouble for the other thing we need to stop being angry about constantly. Susan Kobalarchik. She's a Brewers fan, and she was at a Dodgers brewers game, and this happened here. What is it? Oh, why is everybody quiet? What is this?

[D]

I'm sorry.

[A]

You know what?

[B]

Let's call ice.

[A]

Oh, there it was. So a Dodger fan is making fun of brewers fans as they were up in the game pretty high. And she's like, real men drink beer. And he's got, like, a Happy Thursday, you know, vodka spritzer in his hand or whatever. And then she's like, real men drink beer. And he goes, why is everyone so quiet? And then she goes, we should call ice. And the dude turns and he goes, I'm an American and I'm a war veteran. She lost her job. We got to stop that, too.

[D]

Did we prove that?

[A]

That she lost her job or that it's not a. Well, no, we didn't, but still. Yeah, yeah, we vet that. He doesn't look American to me. You look like Bad Bunny. He's Puerto Rican. It counts. But he. So basically, she lost her job, and I'M not one to stand up for this kind of stuff. But again, who hasn't, in a moment of anger, said something terrible to the guy who's winning the fight? And especially a woman. They. They're like baby scorpions when you. When you mess with them, they shoot all the venom. They don't have that borderline like, I better watch my tongue. This was a Dodgers fan, and it. The only reason she lost her job is because people at her. And she also had to retire from her position at the Make a Wish Foundation. Okay, I get it. But you can't be at a sporting event on the road, rubbing it into the home team and not expect somebody to lash out with something awful that they think will hurt you and only you. She was not being racist to all people, just him. She wanted to hurt his feelings. She lost her job because he was videotaping the whole thing. And the Brewer fans were tired of this dude he was antagonizing. He was mad. And I'm not one to say, you know, that there shouldn't have been a retaliation, but the dude could have verbally gotten her. She doesn't need to lose her job. You don't screw with people's tribal fandom. We're irrational. You are an irrational person. You can't do it. So an apology would have worked.

[D]

A sporting event.

[A]

A sporting event drinking. She might have some true feelings come out. She looked at this guy and thought, she doubled down. I'm going to go for it. I'm throwing the nuke. And she did it. But he, in his own weird way, was asking for something horrible to be said. And if you're doing that, you're taking half of the fun of sports away. At least it wasn't physical like it used to get. Some guy would get lippy at a road game. He used to not be able to do that. This whole, don't, you know, getting lippy on the road shouldn't happen. I go to a lot of Suns games, and a lot of the road team fans try to rub it into the Suns. Laker fans are the worst. They turn to Suns fans intentionally trying to piss them off. And then if they don't like what the retaliation is, you lose your job. That's not right. I'm fine with what he was drinking. The Brewer lady tried that first.

[C]

Real men drink beer. You've got some weird cocktail.

[A]

She tried to kind of, what are you? Gay? Is basically what she was saying. And. And it didn't land. Didn't hit him, didn't care. And he just kept going, what'd this broad look like? She's a middle aged Wisconsin woman, okay, Nevermind with a Karen haircut. But she's the perfect. Oh yeah, she's the perfect prototype. For what? Everybody goes, ah, she's fired. But let's just say when you know Ralphie May. I was reminded of Ralphie May's old bit by a friend yesterday and years ago, Ralph used to do a thing. It says, I don't care who you are, you're a liar. If you say you're not racist in traffic, you'll say whatever it is that you think would piss off that person in the car in front of you that you're mad at. And if they're black, they're Mexican, or if you're black and the person's white, you will go down the road of things you are not allowed to say. It's a release valve, it's an extra. She threw the ice bomb. Here's the thing you have to remind yourself of. If a dude is filming something and trying to get your goat and you fall for it, you're going to get fired. Anytime anyone's holding a camera up and looking at you going, loser, loser. Responding's your worst option. But at sporting events, she should have.

[D]

Gotten fired just for acknowledging. Because you're losing, you don't say anything. Yeah, scoreboard says it all.

[A]

Oh no, she was losing.

[D]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

She couldn't.

[D]

You don't fight back.

[A]

You don't fight back when, when your road guy is. Got the argument and. Yeah. And the scoreboard. Yep.

[D]

It'll come back around.

[A]

You know what the proper response is? It's tried and true, never fails you. It's beautiful. And then, you know, throw in the nuke. The nuke then becomes F U C word. You throw in the C bomb to close your F U. And everybody's like, wow, that middle aged Wisconsin woman has some. Jesus, she's got a mouth on her. And then most of the time you.

[D]

Guys are definitely out playing us today.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, you're the winners today. And then you can say something a little racist. Like when you go back to your house with 14 people, I'm sure there's going to be a huge celebration. And then he's like, what is that supposed to mean? You pissed him off, now he's going to say something dumb and he'll lose his job at Reloberto's. That's the kind of stuff we go for. But I blame the guy antagonizing the home team fans trying to get him to say something dumb. And of course it's a woman will do it because men fandom is usually physical. Women fandom is, I'm going to say, a horrible thing. She lost her job, she lost her position. She's the Brewer's care. It's a trap. I'll be honest with you. It's a trap. I don't think it's fair. Yeah, you got akbarred on that one. That is a massive trap in a huge way. She looks like the Phillies broad too, that stole the ball from the kid.

[D]

That doesn't help.

[A]

Well, it's her look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Her look doesn't help her at all. It's a trap. Your haircut makes you every again, back to judging a book by its cover, which works 95% of the time. You look at her and you're like, oh, boy, we got a Karen on our hands.

[D]

It would be standing ovation laughter as if it was a hot blonde.

[A]

Oh, it's a hot blonde.

[C]

Call ice.

[A]

You bit. Well, she's also not going to have a very important job and she's certainly not working with the youth at the Make a wish. I don't want to catch it.

[D]

She might lose a crown of some.

[A]

Sort that she's probably wearing either way. Yeah, a woman with that bi level 80s lesbian haircut screaming, we should call ICE. That's in the wheelhouse of getting your job. You're. Once you cut your hair like that, you're pretty close to losing your job anyway because we just assume the next thing coming out of your mouth is going to be terrible. There's nothing you can do but the cameras, the observation. If somebody's filming you, do something. Level it back. Because it is like Brady said and like Admiral Ackbar always taught us, it's a trap. It's always a trap when there's somebody holding their phone up, looking at you, saying, what are you going to do about it? Your next move, get you fired. And you're a Brewer fan. How passionate are you? I know it hurts, but the Dodgers have been there a million times. Chances are you're gonna lose this series. You're just gonna have to eat it. You're Milwaukee. Take the good stuff. It's. You know, you had the bucks a couple years ago. You're probably not gonna win any championships for a few years. Sorry, Green Bay, you're not Milwaukee. You're close, but they claim you. But it's not the same thing. So Brewer fans, nobody likes you anyway. Shh. Wasted.

[C]

Call ice.

[A]

White women. You gotta know better. It's a good zing, though.

[D]

It's funny.

[A]

Really good zing. And the guy responding was solid. I'm an American. I'm a war veteran. It's like, ah, crap. I'm gonna lose my. I can't play with the handicapped kids anymore. That's for sure. That. That dream just died. But it's not fair. Sticks need to be removed from asses. We all need to unite over the fact that AI is about to take our brains. Let's, you know, we're all. We've got. Let's make sure that we're kind of on the same page now with. All right, let's fight real fights. Let's no longer worry about a.

[D]

We've got less than a year, people.

[A]

Yeah. We've got 12 months to live before AI is our overlord and we're working in the brain mines. It's true. Let's stop fighting over whether or not ICE is going to come for a Dodger fan. We all know that's right around the corner. You're the Dodger fans. You guys know. Yeah. Right at the gate. If ICE wanted big numbers, they just hang out at Chavez Ravine. It's. It's. They're known for it. You think we don't notice? King Taco, Go Doyers. We don't understand what any of that means, but we know it's prevalent. ICE is licking its chops at the Dodgers World Series. They're hanging around at the super bowl just because bad bunnies there go to LA for a Dodger game.

[D]

I just think of that time they did the super bowl ticket giveaway.

[A]

Oh, yeah, The Sting. Yeah. Gave it to a bunch of guys with warrants and they all showed up. Super bowl tickets, man. Yeah. And then one dude.

[C]

I know you.

[A]

Yeah. One dude noticed that everybody there looked a little bit suspect again. How did you enter this contest? I didn't enter anything, man. They just called me. It's like, oh. One guy figured it out in amongst, like, 90. I didn't enter anything. And they called me to what's going on around. Yeah. And then the cops came like, ah, crap. It's 8:42. We're just moments away from that glorious 9:00 word. Your 8:00 word beat is gone. I can throw that one out. And the next one coming up is ready at 9 and gets you qualified to win a thousand bucks. Then Dale comes in and ruins the show for an hour. It's 98K upd. It's John Holbert here from my friends at New Vision Auto Glass. Six weeks and counting. My windshield is still perfect. Call New Vision Auto Glass and after about 15 minutes on the phone, you'll get everything you need. You can get up to $375 back. Visit newvisionautoglast.com to see what you qual. Then you get that delicious free dinner from the world famous Brazilian steakhouse Rhodesio Grill now in Mesa and their new location in Scottsdale. There's no excuse for you not to have a good piece of glass on that car. I don't want to hear it. Pick up the phone and fix it. 480-210-9090. New Vision Auto Glass, proud sponsor of the Arizona Diamondbacks. Holmberg's morning sickness. Just a few minutes away from giving you another word. By the way, guy agreeing with the lady in Milwaukee says real life. No, real men drink beer. That's true. Signed, Dylan Mulvaney. Oh, geez, I didn't. Yeah, Dylan is not a good example. Anyway, yeah, the Milwaukee lady got. Got punched. She doesn't deserve it all the way around. I also got an email from a guy who was going back. He's a couple hours behind, which kind of throws the show off, but I enjoy still. He's like, listening this morning about the BJ thing and how it solves all the problems and it's true. Marriage counselor, all this other stuff, ladies, it's up to you. You've got all the. You've got every weapon. You want to save a marriage that you or save an argument even have to be like, your marriage is in trouble. You can make life easier. I don't think they're interested in that. And Casey said, john, you're so right. If blowjobs were a prize on game shows and you were on Wheel of Fortune and they gave you the option of playing for money or a blowjob from Vanna, it would be a decision you'd have to think about. Like, not necessarily today, Vanna, but let's go back to awesome Vanna. Like, you're playing for $10,000. Or I'm like, okay, I'll take the BJ. That's a great story for my friends and everything else. It would be questionable to be on a game show, like, even the Deal or no Deal, and you walk out of there with a couple hundred grand. And then all the models with the suitcases came in and said, we'd like to blow you for that money. You're like, yeah, I'm gonna Have to think about that. How many? There's 31 of you. Every day I get a new model from. Do I have to get the DEI one, The fat one? I'm not really interested in the one that they hired just because they didn't want to offend fat people. I'll take one day off. Okay. I'll take Thursdays off. And I'm gonna pick four of you that I don't like and the rest of you, yeah, here's the suitcase. I don't want it. We're a simple creature. Quit reading self help books, ladies. Quit acting like you need to go to a therapist and spend thousands of dollars. He doesn't listen. Oh, he'll listen if you all you have to.

[C]

I don't want to degrade my.

[A]

You don't want happiness. What you're saying out loud is, I just don't want to be happy. I'm not willing to do what it takes to be happy. Guys, just deep down, when a girl who's really nice to their friends and then at home says, scramble my guts tonight, like, yeah, I'm going to do all this. This is what this is. You're a dream woman. Anyway, I'm not a therapist, but I should be. The word for 9 o' clock is Doe D O U g h. Like Doug Hopkins. If you didn't space the Doug from the h. Doe. It comes up on my phone all the time. Doe Hopkins. Evidently somebody didn't know who he was and saw it and said, who's this doe Hopkins guy? And it ran on wildfire on the Internet, kind of for a little bit. It's very funny. My phone always corrects Doug to do because of Hopkins. My next letter is usually an h. So dough d o u g h is the word for 9am on the app. Get down there, take it in the app, put it in the promo code for nine, and you are all registered up for Thursday morning. Shannon's in for Fitz this week. I believe it's Fitz's birthday boy week, so he's out doing his thing. So happy birthday to our friend Fitz as well. And then at 2 o', clock, Shan Man's gonna help you out by giving you more of these qualifying words. And I don't want to say what the two o' clock word is, but it's I will later. They can have it written down so in case you miss it. But don't. You know what? I'm not going to give it to you. You got to play along. And then, of course, I've been telling you how radio executives have. I always. I always know that when something is leaning or weighted, it's broken. And then you find out that ratings are weighted for people who listen on. I don't know how it works, but certain things are way. Mexicans were always like. They used to be like 8 to 1 to a white person. So if a Mexican person listened to your station. Heavy. Like, if somebody votes. Dude, if somebody was Gutierrez and they listened to kupd, you'd get the equivalent of like five white people. Yeah, it was a man. Your ratings would just skyrocket. If a Mexican guy. Black people were like three to one. I don't know if they ever did it for women, but I think they helped out. Whatever.

[D]

The Irish didn't count.

[A]

The Irish was zero. Like, when you were Irish. Irish, it was like, you don't want that as ratings. We'd rather have. We'd rather had a. We'd rather had a zero than have an Irish audience. Take that, Boston. But with the app, when you listen on the app, it counts heavier. Because if you have. I've been talking about it all week. If you have earbuds in or if it's not audible, it doesn't count as ratings other than on the app, which doesn't. It only helps little bits of things. It doesn't help, like actual rate. It's very difficult system. And this guy says, I used to listen to the app on my AirPods, but hearing you say that it doesn't count anymore. I have it come right through my phone. The speaker. Is that better? Now my neighbors and me all get to listen to Brett say the word broad 15 times a morning. That's right. You need other people to hear it for the ratings to catch it, I think. So stop listening on your headphones. That's all we're asking. Because it doesn't help us. It hurts us. And we know you're out.

[D]

Any meters on my block yesterday?

[A]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[D]

The tunes coming out of the Amazon truck.

[A]

Is he blasting us? Keep that up. I'm not 100 sure how it works, but I've had a meeting here in the last couple weeks saying that people listen on headphones, don't get. We don't get credit. And I'm like, well, what are we doing? I'll just tell them not to do that anymore. And they're like, be careful. I'm like, no, I don't care anymore. How's that against the rules? You're not allowed to talk about how people listen. Sure I am. They're listening now, doing a great job. Turn it up. That's all I'm saying. Make other people hear it too. That's it. And that's true. Guy said, john, what is your threshold on Wheel of Fortune for the Vanna BJ versus money? I think, because they always have that $45,000 win. I think if I got that, I would take it over the van of bj. But anything less than that, I'd consider the BJ and the car.

[D]

It's one round.

[A]

What do you mean?

[D]

Twelve hundred bucks.

[A]

Oh, oh my God. If they're giving them away per round. I'm talking about like the final super wheel.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You actually spin that. It could be a million. Obviously, I'm keeping the million. I'm keeping anything over 45 because after taxes you get like 28. And then I think BJ from Van White is worth $28,000 worth of stories. I think a couple years ago. Yeah, not now. Right? Back in the day, even still. Wait, you turn the money down and What? Yeah. Then 74 year old Vanna White gave me a blowjob in the dress. How much is the money? How much are we talking again? 45 before taxes. That's my, that's my limit. They give 45 grand. Yeah. Before taxes. For the story of Vanna White. Because again, about 20, 25 to 28 in cash. After that, after all the fees and stuff hit you, I think, I think I'd take the van of BJ just to come back in here and go, you didn't take them. It's funny because you didn't take the money. No, my God. Van of looming. Oh my God. That's a better to do. Turn the money down because it's a better story. So I take that the car they can keep. That's a process to win a car in a game show. You got, you get the base model. It's one you never roll. And I want to, I got to go through the process of selling it. And then. And they say you can take a cash equivalent, which is usually like a third of the cost of the car. You know, you can up the options.

[D]

You gotta pay for it.

[A]

Yeah. You take the beach. Yeah, exactly. You get. And then you're buying a new car that you didn't even ask for. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. I love that. Like. And they're doing a lot of prices. Right. AI things too with like the guy in the wheelchair. Let's see what you've won with a treadmill, a new wheelchair. That happened? The one, the lady in a wheelchair actually won a treadmill on prices, right? Guy in a wheelchair won a bicycle. That's AI because then Bob goes, well, hop on, bitch. And that's how you know it's AI because Bob never actually. It's. There's some good ones on there. Dale is going to join us in a little bit. We'll talk sports, get our fanduel bets in and chat with Mr. Hellestra. Three time world champion coming up next. It's out of control now. 88 K U PD.