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Morning, Silver. His morning sickness.
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All right, all right, stop yelling.
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We're back on the Internet.
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Here. Real quick. This is what Dale said earlier. That's all we needed to hear. Ever again. That is now. Couldn't agree with that more, Dale. Hell streets here. I gotta ask you a question before we move on with the picks. Then we'll get to the entertainment drill. This is fascinating. We'll talk about it on the podcast. We do the sports thing, otherwise known as the John Holmberg sportscast with temporary permanent guest Dale Hell and the rest. Temporary now he was permanent last week.
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No, I'M permanent. We got temper.
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Nash is. Nash is the rest.
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Understand, once there are more than 100 listeners that kind of listen to this show, he goes, I'm going to put my name on this thing. And then it started off with him going, you do.
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You.
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You do the show and I'll be a guest host.
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I just wasn't sure I wanted to.
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Be in a room with her.
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Then I realized I could help. We'll talk about this.
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Okay.
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Have you to a Tonga Violoa and what he did and the press conference after the game. And then yesterday, Jonathan Gannon lights up the media with what he said about Michael Vick, which I don't remember. I don't know if you saw that.
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I did not see.
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Yesterday, asked him a simple question that said, at what point in your career did you realize that you can't be emotional about the game because injuries happen and things like that, and you can't be emotional when you move a player out of a starting job? Because I reset and Kyler are kind of in this thing. And he said, oh, that's easy. When my quarterback got arrested and he just, like, dropped the mic and left and he forgot he was with that staff when Michael Vick was. It was with Atlanta when the dog stuff broke. Yeah. So he's like, oh, I realized right then and there, don't get too close to these guys.
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Yeah.
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This is an emotion. Is that real for the team?
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Yes, it's very real. Now, the interesting thing is when I know they were asking him other questions. You hear these other coaches talk, It's. I'm sure radio's cutthroat. I'm sure a lot of businesses are cutthroat. There's no more cutthroat than football, than.
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Pro sports, Pro sports in general, but.
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Football and baseball, you're talking about guaranteed contracts and things like that. Are you playing this?
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Yeah, if you want. How early in your career did you have to start trying to figure out how to take the emotion out of coaching? As far as when you. When you have all these injuries and.
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You have all these different pieces.
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When's the first time that you can recall it? 2007, when our quarterback went to jail. And I love that he said it that way because it was so, like, this is proof I'm not emotional.
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Yes.
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Like, it was. I am. These are moving chess pieces to me.
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Yes.
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They're barely human.
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So you asked two questions. You talked about two. Yeah. Was it two things? Team meetings and.
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But is that why. I guess what I'm Asking is, why are football players so fragile that if one guy steps out of line, the whole team falls apart? They don't rally.
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But hold on here, John. Who are we talking about? Are we talking. Are we talking about a Super bowl contender? We talk about guys trying to fight for their job.
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We're talking of a guy with a C on his shirt.
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We're talking about the Miami Dolphins.
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They're in trouble.
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Yes.
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So wouldn't it make sense that somebody steps out and says the reason. The problem is nobody's talking about it.
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I played.
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Troy Aikman did it and he was allowed.
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I played 17 years in the NFL. I've never, ever, ever. I've been through two and 14. I've won three Super Bowls, never had a team players only meeting in the first week ever.
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That's true. That is true. Camp went so bad. Right.
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Something's wrong.
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All right.
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All right. And so we. Again, maybe. And then if the one thing is, if you're a player and you don't show up to a player's meeting, you're screwed. Your team screwed.
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So anyway, well, that's what I'm saying is like, why is it that everything's like, in house, in house, in house, but if a guy's not showing up, you can't say he's the problem?
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Well, see, I think good teams will do that.
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Yeah, that's what I figured.
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Okay.
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So it comes back to just being a stock franchise.
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Hey, John, let me tell you, Jane, over check, he's. He ain't cutting it.
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Yeah.
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And you tell somebody and maybe you mentioned on your.
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So if I've got to see on my jersey, I got to see on my jersey, you come to me and say, do something about this. And he has to.
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Yes. And if Troy calls a players only meeting, which I'm trying to remember, maybe during Switzerland, we might have had one. No, because I had a players meeting with Troy about Switzerland.
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Oh, yeah, you did. Yeah, I forgot.
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Because he was. Troy lost his mind. We went to an NC Championship game. Troy threw three picks and we lost. Yeah. Then we won a Super Bowl. They made the playoffs the following year and we were old.
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And you got trounced.
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Yeah, by. I think Carolina or something.
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Was Carolina.
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Carolina. And Troy's going to go. Well, it's all because of Switzer. No, it's not. No, it's not.
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But anyway, Troy's just a competitor.
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Yeah.
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Let's get to the picks. Brady and I have the Bengals in Pittsburgh or Pittsburgh going into Cincinnati Thursday. Flacco in Cincinnati I thought, I really.
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Thought, I really thought that he might lead him to a victory last week almost.
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But somebody's going to get flaccoed. He does it. Interesting statistic. Under Mike Tomlin as a road team on Thursday, The Steelers are 2 and 9. They covered the spread two times.
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Did we play Thursday last year? Thursday?
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I don't remember. Be just at the end of the year. I don't remember.
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I don't know.
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But it's a, it's a weird one. It's a weird little thing. Steelers do not have good short weeks. They just don't.
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Because, because one thing you're going to look at and go, well, this year's team is different than last year's team but 2 and 9, 2 and 9.
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Over 14 year period on road games on Thursday. So in the Steelers Bengals game, Brady, I'm going to leave it to you to pick the game and I will, I will add something from that game to our, to our picks. Who's going to win it, Steelers or Bengals tonight in Cincinnati. Flaco, five and a half points.
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Five and a half points.
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You want the points, you can go there. Make it snappy. Let's go.
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I'll take the points.
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The Bangles, the Bengals plus five and a half. I'll say anytime. Touchdown score. Darnell Washington.
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Who's Darnell Washington?
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300 pound tight end that is just going to mop the league up soon. They're starting to use him, right? For the first time in a couple.
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Of years he is a giant.
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Darnell Washington will be a guy who scores a touchdown.
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So how do we figure out when you two lose who pays Brett and I?
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Well, if we both lose, it doesn't matter. I don't like if my bet hits and his loses and he's the only loser, then he pays all of us.
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And if his bet hits, the bet.
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Has to go 3 for 4 for the guy's bet to go. If we both missed like you and Brett did last week, nobody pays anything because the thing was a half who? The Bears have Saints in Chicago and taking the Bears four in a row for the Bears. Look, Saints Chicago.
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Come on.
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Yes.
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I don't know. Local product.
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I'm going Saints straight up. Straight up.
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How can you. Everybody's on Amman. Supposedly he was really hard on poor little Caleb Williams.
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He was whatever.
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And Caleb Williams didn't show up for his interview and probably getting that right. Pinky finger painted pink. He had his manicure going so he missed the media meeting. Four in a row. You're really Going to four in a.
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Row against the Saints, Chicago. That All right. 4 and 2, Bears. They were 4 and 2 last year. Dale, your Cowboys are taking on the commander in Dallas. Oh, Dale's deals out. That's the noise. I like when Dale makes that noise. Oh, do you need a bucket? You need a bucket. That's not going on over there. What's in that glass?
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A swallow.
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I've heard that before. Kido, isolate that, too. Isolate.
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John, you're so big. John, you're so big. That's right.
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Why are you choking? Thank you, Dale. It's John Holmer here. Sh away. For my friends at New Vision Autoglass, Brady just had his windshield replaced. Toledo just had his windshield replaced. And Brett evidently got jealous because his windsh shield got cracked on his drive to work the other day. New Vision Auto Glass, they're your best friends. They'll fix that ugly busted glass, then give you up to $375 back, and you'll get dinner at the world famous Brazilian steakhouse, Rhodesio Grill. Go to new visionautoglast.com, see what you qualify for, then get it fixed. Call 480-210-9090. New Vision Auto Glass, proud sponsor of the Arizona Diamondback.
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Holmberg's morning sickness.
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All right, Cowboys commanders in Dallas.
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Dallas can't stop Covid for Friday, and that's nothing. Yeah, I mean, with three boosters.
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You like Washington in Dallas coming off a loss on a short week.
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I'm gonna. I am gonna go with the commander. All right? I go with the commander because I just don't. I don't think Dallas could stop them.
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You don't think Dallas can stop them? But they can't. Can. Can. Can the commander stop Dallas again?
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I can see it be a 4037 game again, and Dallas finding a way to lose.
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All right, our bet is 20 $292.
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Ooh.
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If we win it.
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So Brett cost us money last week.
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Yeah, and you. And you now.
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You did, too. Brad cost the money the week before.
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Well, he's gonna pay us. And you did the week before that.
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With your time.
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Yeah, with your stupid time.
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Why are you calling me, man?
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Yeah, you know what? Leave it to me, Dale. I'll fix this. You two are mad at each other. I've got the solution.
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Thank you.
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Get this show recorded so we can get to the podcast.
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All right.
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All right. Yeah.
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2,300 win for that one.
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Wow.
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I'll take my hundred out of that, and we'll split it. So, boys, I hope we get It And Darnell Washington is the key. That's a big one right there. All right, let's get to the entertainment drill and get the hell out of here. Great. Dale Hel Sports report brought to you by diamond diamond coatings a dot com. They can take care of just about anything. They. You've got counters in the backyard. You've got a barbecue. You got cement. You got pavers, garage floors. They got it all. They can figure something out. And what they did to my sport court. When you see that online here in the next couple days, I'll let them take the photos. My God. Couldn't be happier. Awesome things. And if you've got a piece of property and you want to just boost up that concrete, you won't be. You'll be blown away how much visual value that adds. Diamond coatings. AZ.com it's time now for the entertainment drill. It's brought to you by my friends@reactdefense.com home attack. I already talked to Jay and Josh about that thing I told you earlier about people spraying, you know, the sides of your car and things like that. And they have cop friends they've talked to and they're putting it to the test up there. There's already got a plan going for, you know, somebody doing that kind of thing. And isn't just self defense against attacks. It's self defense against. If I see this, what do I do? Some dude spraying the car beat the.
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Crap out of it.
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If I see Brady sprayed some on my car, he's going down.
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Well, all right. And then he'll never catch me. That would be a. That would be a foot race I'd love to watch down the street. That would be Benny Hill.
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One kidney versus one.
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Dale completely sold it. React defense.com Most of you think like dale. You're wrong. They'll fix it. It's the home of tactical black. Brady entertainment.
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Al Pacino and Robert de niro are celebrating 50 years of friendship in a winter ad campaign. It's called moncler.
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Oh.
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It's a luxury men's clothing in women's too.
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But moncler, I like my new clothes.
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Don't you like your rollout ad?
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Nice. Nice being friends with you for a long time. We've been friends for a while. They're friends. 50 years we've been friends. Even though the Godfather came out 55 years ago. I like you.
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You like me.
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What are we gonna do about it? We gonna go homosexual? I don't know. I've heard things.
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Two Dodgers players won't stay.
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You got a great ass, De Niro. Thank you, Al.
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Two of the Dodgers won't stay in the team's hotel while they're in Milwaukee. It's called the Pfister Hotel.
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Okay.
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And it's haunted.
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Oh, my God. Oh, the Mexican place.
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How's that spelled? Brady.
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Start with a pf. Okay, good. Like the faucet. Bread's playing in the background while they're at the Fister. Yeah, I'm not staying at the Fister. They're not kidding. The name says everything. I thought it was just a thing, but it's real. I guarantee it.
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They're the.
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They're Mexican players.
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Teosco Hernandez.
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Yep.
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Mookie Bets.
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Mookie Betts is afraid of ghosts.
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And he stayed there before, but he says I. I didn't sleep the whole time. I just kept hearing noises.
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Well, that was because of the Milwaukee squish you had in your room.
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Yeah.
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Chaska Hernandez doesn't surprise me because I think he's Dominican and they're into voodoo and stuff, so. Ghosts are scary. All of them, by the way, generalized sweeping statement. All of the Dominican Republicans. People are afraid of ghosts.
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His reason is TIASC says I'm not afraid, but I brought my wife with me, and she won't stay there.
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Yeah, she gets mad at him every time there's another person in his room. So they have to go, ghost or otherwise, because he'll bang him.
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Someone put out the stats of Travis Kelsey's receiving yards and touchdowns. It's improved since Taylor came out with the song Wood, which is talking about his crank.
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Giant Redwood. Pee Pee.
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Yeah.
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Johnny, you ever have a girl write a song about you?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Lacking. Called Black.
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No, it was called Deep.
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I wish it was Deep.
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It's called Deep. I don't know if you said there was another one.
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Oh, that was. That was something called Shallow, right?
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No, no, no. Deep. There was a call. There was another song called Ocean Eyes. And Browntown was another one that was written about me. Why Won't He Love Me? And that was. Several women wrote that song. It was weird.
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Pope Leo was in the Pope Mobile the other day.
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Yeah.
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Acknowledged. Cubs fan flipped him off.
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Crowd gave him the finger. The holy finger. Nice.
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He's a snack.
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He said Han Perdido.
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Yeah. Which means they lost. Cubs. Yeah, they lost. They lost a playoff game, you dumbass. Your team had 48 wins.
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Dale's got two. Great.
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All right, Hurry, Dale, go.
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Well, why are we in hurry?
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Because we gotta go. Don't you want to start that podcast? What's the name of that podcast again? I gotta look it up. John Holmberg, Sportscast. Oh, okay. Featuring temporary permanent guest Dale, Hella stray and friend.
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This is. Come on first. Golden Girls Christmas Experience is coming. Johnny. Here's what's on the menu, just in case you were wondering. The Immersive Pop up, which opens on November 19, will include cheesecake flights.
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What?
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St Olaf Cook Christmas cookies.
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That's where Betty White's character was from on the show.
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And other treats inspired by the beloved sitcom.
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So you can go celebrate. The Golden Girls. They're not there. Obviously. They're dead. Are we going to dig them up? Are we? Ed Geen and the Golden Girls. What's going on?
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Are all of them wiped out?
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They're all wiped out.
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Wow.
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They're all gone.
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They're all gone.
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They're all gone.
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I thought one was still alive.
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No, Betty White was the last remaining. I thought Rue was still around, but Girl of Gold. No, Rue died before Betty.
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Oh, wow.
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Betty's the last one.
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Fruitcake. Golden ornament, truffles.
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All right, that's enough. All right, I'm with Dale on this one. Way to go Real.
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That is ridiculous.
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I thought Dale would be excited about that for some reason.
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Just got an email. Taylor Swift just wrote a song about me called Long Sack, which I thought was nice, so thank you. It's on the new album. It's deep.
C
That's pretty cool, though, to have a song. A song written. Your wiener is that impressive, John?
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Yeah.
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The most famous singer, whether you like her or not, right? All women sings a song about you.
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All women, when they're with you, say everything's fine with your wiener.
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No, they don't.
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If she breaks up with you, she's gonna write a song about how it was twisted or had bumps or she'll bash. Yeah, yeah. It was a curve down. Used to hit her in the pelvis.
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Right now.
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Right now.
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She's loving it right now.
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Yeah, it's immortalized.
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Nobody Fern Dobson wrote that song for you?
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No, no one at Dobson did.
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Or Phoebe's College or Scottsdale College or Glendale College, any of the community colleges.
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Sans songs about me. Who's the weirdo? Would have been the song I wrote. That's it. We're done. It's 10 after 10. Dale, you've wasted enough of our time. At 2 o', clock, those words on our app. Get going again, Shan. Man's gonna help you with that. Larry is coming up next and he's got all sorts of fun stuff for you. We're done. We will see you guys tomorrow. Right here in the morning sickness.
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Episode: 10-16-25 – Entertainment Drill – THU – w/Dale Hellestrae – HMS Picks for Week 7 NFL Games – Dodger Players Won't Stay At Haunted Hotel In Milwaukee
Date: October 16, 2025
Host & Guests: John Holmberg (Host), Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo, Dale Hellestrae (NFL guest analyst)
This episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness blends the show’s trademark irreverence with sharp sports analysis and entertainment news. With former NFL player Dale Hellestrae joining as a “temporary permanent” guest, the crew dives into Week 7 NFL picks, discusses the emotional detachment in pro sports, and shares light-hearted banter about haunted hotels, celebrity gossip, and an immersive Golden Girls pop-up. The episode is packed with witty exchanges, behind-the-scenes football insights, and classic “morning drive” humor.
Structure: Roundtable-style selections for key NFL matchups, including playful trash talk and stake setting.
Games Tackled:
Betting Stakes:
Al Pacino & Robert De Niro:
Dodgers Players Won’t Stay at Haunted Hotel:
Travis Kelce’s stats improve post Taylor Swift song release about him (“Wood”):
Pope Leo gets flipped off by Cubs fans:
Golden Girls Christmas Pop-Up:
The episode is fast-paced, irreverent, and loaded with inside jokes and off-the-cuff humor characteristic of morning radio. John Holmberg drives the conversation with snark and sharp wit, while Dale provides authenticity and story-rich NFL commentary. The group alternates between sincere sports analysis and comedic tangents, creating an engaging mix that keeps both hardcore sports fans and pop-culture enthusiasts entertained.
If you missed this episode, expect:
Listen for: NFL locker room honesty, banter about haunted hotels, Golden Girls cheesecake pop-ups, and why having your name on a song (allegedly) is the ultimate achievement.