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John Holmberg
Good morning everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Thursday. It is 5:45. This is the morning sickness. My name is John. There's Brady. There's Brett. There's Big Dick Toledo. And off we go for another day in paradise. Here. Perfect. Outside? Absolutely. But I'm starting to feel the twinges of those fall allergies got me this morning.
Brady
Had to put a jacket on last night.
John Holmberg
We're wearing coats. It's nice because it's four degrees in the studio because the air conditioner only works here when we don't need it. Saddam's palace is so weird. We have such a strange building. Hold on.
Brady
That's why they'll come in and like, oh, the temperature's fine here. AC's working great.
John Holmberg
Oh, yeah. I don't know why you guys are complaining. Have you been here in the summer? We'd never come in. It's a sauna. It's a greenhouse anyway, so. Yeah, but it's great outside. If you're trying to get out there, go get them. We're just a few minutes away from me giving you code word number one. You can put it in the app. Take all that money we've got in the app. You'll be taking it in the app in about 14 minutes. I'll give you the word for you guys to start your day. And the participation is exceeding expectations. You guys are crushing it. So keep it up because tomorrow we do our first drawing for somebody to win the cash. God, that would.
Brady
Does the drawing happen during our show?
John Holmberg
No. I don't know.
Sarah
He's up this early?
Brady
Yeah, you know, like at 10 o'. Clock.
John Holmberg
Yeah. It would be great if we could, like, celebrate with the person, but I don't think we do that anymore. I think you just quietly get a phone call from Rudy. Rudy, Probably.
Sarah
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Sarah
Larry and Rudy aren't waking up this early.
John Holmberg
I'll tell you what, I like Rudy, but I think I'd rather just forego a thousand dollars than talk to Rudy on the phone. Because that dude, I can't imagine his phone conversations. Like, Rudy's in person. A person that, like, you're talking to on the phone. There's weird pauses, there's just staring. Okay, I guess we're done here, Rudy. See ya.
Brady
It'd be really quiet.
John Holmberg
Maybe we should have Kevin Berry call Kevin Belly. Yeah, I call him Kevin Belly because he's Asian. I don't think you can say his own last name. He was adopted by the Berry family. The bellies. I'd say, I don't know. I don't know his story. I'm making a lot of assumptions there. But if I told you we should have a contest here and say, all right, for a mil. Oh, I'm not allowed to do that anymore. For a million dollars, wander through our building and find Kevin Barry. Who do you think is Kevin Barry? Because there's no names or anything. You'd have eight choices before you rolled over to the Asian guy's desk and said, well, this is clearly Kevin Barry. No way. That's the least Asian name I've ever seen on an Asian guy. And Kevin Looks like if you saw Kevin at, like, a store, you'd. Your first thought would be, he doesn't speak English.
Brady
Like, he's not going to understand me.
John Holmberg
He's authentic. And then he starts talking. He's a Buffalo Bills fan. Like, Kevin, you are screwing up everything in my. My bigoted brain needs you to have an accent. You need to say that your family escaped something and landed in Toronto. That's what I need you to say. But, you know, he doesn't.
Sarah
What's happening, hot stuff?
John Holmberg
Well, that was the thing he said about. And he's funny. Kevin is a very funny guy because he's like, I can't tell all you white people apart, so it's no big deal if you start. And it's true. Speaking of not being able to tell, Brady, I'm not an old man. I'm. I'm a. Still fast on my feet. My brain still works well. But I am now a member of the Hey, I thought that was real club. And then the, hey, that's not real. And it is. I watched a video yesterday. You've seen the ones where the cats are dropping rats in people's mouths when they sleep.
Brady
Yes.
John Holmberg
And it's horrible. So I watched one the other day, and the cat took a. It killed a rat and jumped up on the stove and dumped it in a pot of soup. It's real. Yep. That one actually happened. And I'm like, no, these are those cat videos. And I had to research, like, wait a minute. This isn't real. And sure enough, it's real. The cat is killing rats. And then it.
Brady
I think the cat's name's Wendy.
John Holmberg
Wendy. You're right. That's exactly right. Wendy went and found a rat and then dumped it in the family soup that they're making soup. You know, you've got to be so. Well, first off, let's just say, what are you, Oliver Twist? Or Charlie's parents from the Willy Wonka who's got big vats of soup going and rats running around the house? That is so 1300s. It's ridiculous.
Brady
You can step outside the house and do some chores while the stew is on the stove.
John Holmberg
It was weird. It was a big. Like, there must be nine poor people in this house making a big old thing, what looked like just broth goo soup. And the cat went up and he jumps up on the counter, and Wendy goes over with a rat in its mouth and drops it right in the soup. And security camera caught it, so. And you're also super duper poor if You've got a security camera on your oven. Why in the world are you monitoring what goes on in your kitchen? You're getting. Because neighbor pours are coming in and stealing your bread and stuff. That's why I made an assumption about.
Brady
The whole thing, that the cat would get up there and you know there's heat on there. Usually they don't mess around on.
John Holmberg
The cat wanted it warm. His cat's hungry too. Brady. And they've got bigger problem in this story. And if I had this happen at my house where, you know, a dog grabbed a sewer rat and put it in something, the last thing I'm doing is releasing that to the public. And like, hey, John, don't you have a cat named Wendy? I think I saw it on the news. Yeah, we wanted to go viral. Like, your house is full of rats and you make stew for dinner. You're. You're broke or is everything okay? People be loaning me money. I could start a GoFundMe with just that video. But I thought that was.
Brady
If you're out in the country, cat brings in the mouse, dumps it in there. That's one thing about a rat that's different.
John Holmberg
A mouse and a rat, I don't know what. I had a long tail and I was watching it and I'm like, I don't care. Your cats catching rodents and pushing them around in the. No, no. You get. You need a second job is what you need. If you've got rats in your house. In the house I can understand. Like, I live Arcadia. And you know where grapefruit trees are, and you'll see these gigantic grapefruit rats in people's yards. But they're easy to get rid of. Like, you just have to clean stuff up. They just. Just don't leave junk around. And even though, you know, when I lived in Arcadia, we had a roof rat that would run along the back fence and just jump down and eat the. If you left the grapefruits from your tree on the ground, when they'd fall, they'd have little like rat head sized holes in them and they just. They'd bore out the center of that grapefruit. I'm telling you, you've never seen a more beautiful rat in your life than the glowing, healthy citrus rats of Arcadia. They're beautiful. I would keep one as a pet. From watching that, I thought for sure that was fake. That turns out to be real. That's on the news and that's on the family. Then I watched another one that almost brought Tears to my eyes. An eagle, I don't know if you saw this, is standing at a door. And then a dog is, like, on the other side, and the guy's cameras catch it. And then the dog and the eagle go to, like, this pond, and there's another eagle trapped. It's like, oh, my God. That eagle told that dog, like, lassie, like, something's going on with his buddy. Yeah. And then a guy came out, freed the eagle, and I'm like, holy cow. This is. And then I'm like, is this. This is real? And then I'm like, no, it's too elaborate. It's too long to be. AI. No one would spend this kind of time on it.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Like, this eagle told that dog, hey, come help me out. And then the owner came, picks the eagle up, and it had gunk on its feet. And the eagle trusted him. He put him in a bath and did it. And then. And then it. At the end of the thing, he's like, I built a special saddle so the eagle could ride my dog. Like, God damn it. I say, that was two minutes. I'm totally in on this. And then you see an eagle riding a golden retriever. And I'm like, I'm done. And it was. Wasn't so much those videos. It was now that. I don't know, like, I'm now in the category.
Brady
Rescues, where there's a bond with the animal that, sure, it made sense.
John Holmberg
They were playing. Like, they showed the eagles would occasionally come and visit and is playing in the yard. I'm like, that's neat. How neat is that? Those eagles, you'd think they just claw that dog in pieces and. Or the dog would be mad and. No, the dog would run into it and bump it and there wasn't a flaw in this thing. And then they go and show that he made a saddle and the eagle rides the dog and like, oh, my God, did I just sit through two minutes of this and not know? And then. Then it becomes. It's almost like the sixth sense. I'm like, oh, it was right in front of me the whole time. How did I fall for this? But I'm the. The news on this is. I'm falling for it already. Already. It's only going to get worse. Every day that passes, that thing gets better and better. I wish to God the mentally. The down syndrome people that are interrupting JFK and MLK and have you seen those? Oh, yeah. Oh, mlk. Given as I have a dream and that retarded boy comes up and just Goes peanut butter. All right, Jimmy. All right. And MLK reacts beautifully. I know those aren't real, but I want them to be. But man, it's. Imagine being grandma. Grandma can't. This is not good. So now I. And now I'm not gonna be sure about any of it.
Brady
Like that one the other week, the mountain lion went to the bowl of candy.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Brady
And jumped up. I don't know if that. I don't know either, because now there's a series of them where there's other animals.
John Holmberg
Have you seen the mountain lion attack the old man at his front door? And the dog. Yes, real. I looked it up. You got to do research.
Brady
So eagle came in and swooped on a cat.
John Holmberg
Haven't seen that one.
Brady
And the dog separates the eagle and the real. I don't know.
John Holmberg
You got to look into it.
Sarah
It's like that video a while back with the Australian guy boxing the kangaroo to save his dog.
Brady
Yeah.
Sarah
I would have thought that was AI back in the day, but that was AI.
John Holmberg
I can't do it, Brad. I can't live in this world. Ridiculous. Because you're right. I'd forgotten about the dude that had fought the boxing. They're like dancing the kangaroo head moves. He was like Manny Pacquiao of the ruse. But yeah, you're right. If that came out today, it'd be like, come on.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Fake kangaroo isn't gonna square up. He's not gonna go. He's not gonna have a fighting stance. And that kangaroo did. And that dude was clocking that kangaroo. Pissing him off. Like the kangaroo could take. He had a good chin, if I remember right. He did. But damn it all, my cynicism is my strength. I don't need to be more cynical. There has to be some. A remaining factor of my gullibility has to be there. It has to be. I have to be a little bit like, of a believer in a little something. I can't now because I've the eagle and the dog thing. I'm so stupid for doing that. But. But it cut off a piece of my innocence. It got off a pizza. Mine. Oh, this is a marvelous. It was. It was all fake. And now I don't trust any of it. You're telling me now Michael Jackson wasn't a stand up comic on Kill Tony, I. What more can I believe? Eazy.
Sarah
E wasn't on Mr. Rogers.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Charles Manson and Mr. Rogers weren't friends. Come on. Where do I draw these lines? But again, I remind you, next year is an election year. This is going to be awful for old people. Keep an eye Grandma and Grandpa. You think it's bad they're driving. They can't have social media. They can't be exposed to this. They're going to be targeted. This is not. This is where it all goes from Mr. Rogers and Eazy hanging out to target old people and scare them to death and make them vote a certain way and that, the algorithms and all that. You're getting targeted. It's John Holmberg here. Shannon, away from my friends at New Vision Auto Glass. Brady just had his windshield replaced. Toledo just had his windshield replaced. And Brett evidently got jealous because his windshield got cracked on his drive to work the other day. New Vision Auto Glass, they're your best friends. They'll fix that ugly busted glass, then give you up to $375 back, and you'll get dinner at the world famous Brazilian steakhouse, Rodizio Grill. Go to New Vision autoglass.com, see what you qualify for, then get it fixed. Call 480-210-9090. New Vision Auto Glass, proud sponsor of the Arizona diamondback. Holmberg's morning sickness.
Brady
How many old men are like, did Bob Ross knock my wife off?
John Holmberg
Knock my wife up? Yeah. Yeah. Bob Ross's new thing, instead of getting mad at the art, is to paint cabins. Have you seen those?
Sarah
No.
John Holmberg
Oh, the best. And you. And I've seen like nine of them. And I know Bob Ross is dead. Happy little cabin. I'm just making right here. Happy cabin. Little Phthalo blue. Ah, this cabin's great. Yeah, it's from my memory of the time I'm in the 70s and then it just ends. And he. All he does is talk about the last time he banged your mom and I. You know, it's a typical painting. The one of Hiroshima. He painted Hiroshima. And I'm like, all right. But I can't have this. I can't have my cynicism this in doubt at all. I mean, any.
Brady
The fact that it's now getting to the point where I was thinking maybe Instagram schooling through that is over now because it's all AI good. Yeah.
John Holmberg
I mean, we have. So on the heels of that, I do have to say I am now officially in old man territory because I saw one of your guys, Brady, an Ohio state rep, has introduced a bill to say, let's get ahead of this a little. The toothpaste is out of the tube. AI is winning. Let's get ahead of it a little and make it so. What? Something non sentient. Entities, which basically is somebody who can't actually feel or emote for real. Like, there's no feel. A sentient being is someone who feels and experiences rather than just exists. He declared that AI systems non sentient entities. We have to ban them from gaining legal personhood. And everybody's like, we're not even close to that. And he was like, right, exactly. Let's do it now. Let's make it so there cannot be any bills passed in the future that give anything artificial intelligence rights. Let's do this now. And he started by saying, sure, you're. Because all the rest of those old people, like, that's crazy talk. AI is our friend. It's like, no, it's not. You guys aren't. You're idiots. Let's get on this now, because it'll get out of hand fast. And. And it's not going to stop. So let's. Let's make it so. And he cited the example. Let's make it so no real people can marry one. Let's make that a law right now.
Sarah
Sorry, Larry.
John Holmberg
And another guy said, by AI, you mean gays? And he's, no, we're not doing that again. That's hard. That's over. No, come on, let's make it so the gays can't do it too.
Brady
They'll put them under the umbrella.
John Holmberg
It's genius. Yeah, they'll put you LGBTQ AI. So it's. They can't hold power of authority. They can't be attorneys. They can't. Like he said, we can't put them as beings. They can be tools people use. But that's. He's trying to pass a law in Ohio, and everybody's kind of like, that's years down the road. And I was like, he was loud. No, it isn't year. It's less than that. I mean, think about it. In November of 2022, we discovered AI. Or was it 23? It might even be after that.
Brady
And you're like, wow, this launched in 2022.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Okay. So it was late November, and you're like, have you seen this thing? And they could chat GPT and all this other stuff. And, yeah, so I'm all for that. And that's like screaming and yelling at the wind. You got to stop the AI from being people. And let's just cut off the weirdos now that are going to try to marry it, because that's common that you can never have a legal marriage to a robot. I'm all for that. I think that's A good idea that once we kind of divide the line, but again, pretty soon it's not going to matter. But you can have your relationship. You just can't start making, like, rights for it. Can't have rights. I'm fine with that.
Brady
We've hit a milestone with AI right now. Over half the online articles are now written by AI.
John Holmberg
No.
Brady
A study in 2022 predicted. Predicted that we'd hit 90% AI writing by 2026.
John Holmberg
Wow. There it is, right in front of you. Let's take their rights away. I. I never thought I'd say that on the radio. Like, we've got to take this. We've got to take these people's rights from them. AI is not people. It's getting confusing, but I'm already on that now. Eagle on a saddle. What the. Come on, John. Be better. Be better. Because, you know, right now it's just for fun. And, you know, it's Mr. Rogers, Stephen Hawking, you're having a great time and you're thinking, AI is fun. It's my friend. And then the next thing you know, election season's coming and the target on old people is going to be crazy and it's going to make them. You thought we had political divide now and misinformation now. Just like if Facebook was too much for fake news. If the misinformation train was simply just what we were doing to each other. Imagine what's coming now if they're going to abuse it that away.
Brady
Oh, candidates rescuing animals.
John Holmberg
Oh, boy. I know it's six o'. Clock. We got to do it. Yeah. Candidates with saddles on their backs. Ron Paul having eagles ride them. I have eagles ride me all the time. It's like, oh, my God, he's American. He's the most American man I've ever goddamn seen. He built an eagle saddle for himself. I've got video of it. Cue up to Lee Greenwood. Remember that the old phrase, the tape don't lie. That was an old football basket. Like, you go watch the tape. The tape don't lie.
Brady
Now it does.
John Holmberg
Now it does. The word for six o' clock is dub S T U B. Put it in your app. Go to the United KPD app and check it out. Click on the Take it in the app and then find 6am Put the promo code stub in there and you're all but entered. You're right there in there. And then we'll find out who wins money. Starting on tomorrow, we'll do another 7, 8, and 9. And later in the day, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Gotta pay attention. You gotta listen a lot. That's the whole point of this. And get that whole thing done. Stub, tell a friend and good luck and hop on there. You guys are clobbering this entire thing, which is fairly amazing. Yeah. And I love the AI joke videos. But if we could get some politicians on that to say if it doesn't make you laugh, it has to be banned from the Internet like within an hour. If we should have a rating system like American Idol where we vote on and off AI videos with just a thumb, I just go, boo. And if. If it boos out in the first two hours, if more it disappears from the interwebs, it can't ever be shown again. It's.
Brady
It's amazing how quickly it burns out, though.
John Holmberg
What do you mean?
Brady
Like they have the certain characters like Bob Ross at this time. Yeah, okay, I'm over. Like, if I said Bob Ross, I'm skipping.
John Holmberg
Do you are? Yes.
Brady
I mean, there's a.
John Holmberg
You're missing a lot.
Brady
Close.
John Holmberg
You're missing.
Brady
I've seen a lot.
John Holmberg
Because you never know when that down syndrome boy is going to come interrupt him. I'm in it. It's a. It's a series to me.
Brady
That's one I haven't seen.
John Holmberg
You got to watch. He showed up at JFK's events.
Brady
He seen a lot of the MLK and MLK.
John Holmberg
MLK doing standup was pretty good when.
Brady
He did a lot of Hitler.
John Holmberg
Hitler's. Hitler's kind of come and gone now. I don't see a Mr. Rogers kind of.
Brady
But that's what I'm saying is that window. That is a short window. So the re. They'll keep rotating new celebs.
John Holmberg
Well, good Macho man Savage visited Mr. Rogers. Mr. Rogers yelled at him and I pissed myself. So long as they're funny doing the national anthem. You're trying to touch me. You're trying to get to my emotions. You're trying to hit me in the heart. And it's going to be a dog video. Or he does something spectacular. I'm susceptible to that. And if at the end the dog turns and votes and. Or says vote aoc, I'd be like, this is okay. That dog's brilliant. It's happening right in front of us. But yeah, let's make laws now where weirdos can't marry him. At least legally. You can do whatever you want at home. If you've got an AI girlfriend and you want to whack off to that, I Mean, porn is way ahead of the curve on that.
Brady
The animal ones that I've fallen for, too, and luckily they're not that long. It's. Every now and then it opens up like, oh, my gosh, this is happening. And then the animal flips you off.
John Holmberg
Yeah. And then gives you a finger. I had one the other day where a lion and a lioness were in night vision.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
And the lion was snoring, and the lioness just smacked him in the head. And then they both looked at the camera in the lioness. I'm like, come on. I was in on that. That was real. But what we have to do is start making people who like it to the point of wanting to marry it. We have to make them crazy before they go crazy. You have to start telling everybody that's crazy behavior. That isn't normal. No, don't fly your freak flag. This is what that is. It's all the moms. My son's unique and he's expressing himself. No, he's not. He's dressed as Braveheart at school. You got to stop this now. We stopped calling people crazy, and then they were allowed to do whatever they wanted. And they're marrying furries and they're. We got to make crazy crazy again. Because right now there's a different entity out there that's going to make everybody a little crazy. So we have to make it so it can't. So we can't have love with it. It doesn't love you back. There's an old movie. It's not great. Virginia Madsen's in it called Electric dreams. And it's 1980s, and a dude spills something on his computer, and it kind of comes to life and falls in love with his girlfriend, and she starts to kind of like the computer, too. It's not a human shape, but he says all the right things. He does all that. You think AI is not gonna woo some people with the proper language? It's amazing.
Brady
We got a six, seven that.
John Holmberg
Yeah, we got. We got six. Yeah. Put a six, seven on there. Whatever that is, just do it. But I'm too stupid, and I fell for the thing. And then there was the. You know. And the good news is it will. The side thing on AI is it will capture stupidity because there was a kid and smashing up windows and doing all sorts of damage around the neighborhood, and they didn't know who it was, and they started to talk to him, and he had something on his computer that his parents noticed, and he had a conversation with Chat GPT about what evidence do you leave behind if you're smashing car windows? And they kind of thought it was him, but they really have anything on him. And then they looked at his ChatGPT conversation. He was asking ChatGPT, if I smash car windows, like, what do I have to clean first that the cops will know that it's me? And, like, he's going through all this stuff, and they're like, you're having conversations with chat GPT, but exactly the crime we just. We just found. And, like, oh, so dummies will still use it wasn't me. Yeah. He thought he's. How do I get away with Ask ChatGPT. How do I continue to get away with this? And he got it. So the good news is ChatGPT can be our friend. Bad news, too many moms love their kids too much and will allow their special little angels. But. But Braden loves this woman, and I don't care that she's real. She's made him so happy. And women hate each other, so it would be like. And women are just bitches. So it's better that she's just. She's gonna never be mean to him. She can't hurt him. And that's all moms want. That's a nice thing. Moms don't ever want their sons. I almost said cuns. Cuns is one of the worst words you can almost say. It's not even a real word. Don't want their sons to be, like, hurt. They don't want their sons to feel pain. That's why we invented all those drugs to dumb down your kids and why they're in so much trouble in their early 20s now when life actually starts to get to them. They've been numbed their entire childhood with mom pills that say, no, he doesn't need a most. He's got ADD and he's. He's got anxiety, and, you know, he's never faced anything tough. Hol's morning sickness. So now that you know you've got the perfect girl, and that's one thing moms are always like, is this girl good enough for my little boy? The computer can be and never really threatens mom. So lunatic moms will let their sons do this. We have to get ahead of it by calling people crazy now before they go crazy. Brett, you and I have lived our lives beautifully judging a book by its cover, and that's. That is still the biggest lie ever told to you is you can't judge a book by its cover 95% of the time. You can. The 5% you don't. Those are your friends. My rule in life has always been, I assume, you're an asshole until you prove me wrong. And I want you to feel the same about me. I'll do my best to show you I'm not an asshole. And then that's that 5% of people you keep in your life. The other 95%, you're like, nah, I knew it when I met him. Everybody knows your body is equipped with sensors that know this guy. No, no, no, no, no. Like, Dave Portnoy. I wouldn't want to be friends with Dave Portnoy just because I look at him and I'm like, mm, mm, mm, mm. Something ain't right here. He's got the dog thing. A few things I like, but he's Bostonian. Immediately, that accent makes me go, we can't be friends.
Sarah
Guilty till proven innocent.
John Holmberg
Exactly. Not in a court of law.
Sarah
No, no, no.
John Holmberg
Put in the court of public perception. Yeah. You got to prove it to me. And I like that. That keeps you healthy. All this whole love and give him a chance thing, it's never once worked out, ever. Brady's prince and God of love got hammered up against a wall, put up a couple of sticks, and nailed it to him. Love don't work. Judge everyone immediately. Let's change. Let's flip the script on this whole thing. Immediately judge who you just met. Immediate. Do it. Stop fighting it. I don't care how accepting and loving and caring you are. You judge the second you meet someone. The second if they've got dirty nails, if they're dressed like idiots, if they're, you know, something hanging out of their nose, like, oh, this person. You immediately judge everyone. And then some people just dismiss the obvious signs the red flags are all over everybody. Always judge everyone. Most of the time. People won't, like, disappointment. Initial meetings, you know.
Brady
Yeah. You can't prevent that. Yeah. There's no one that I don't know that does not judge everyone, does it?
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Brady
It just happens. It's your being able to control that.
John Holmberg
Focus, that it's your internal safety measures that basically say, all right, assess the situation. What do I got here? And assume the worst. Your body always says, are we in danger first? It never goes, this is safe as can be. You're meeting new people. It's always your body's like, all right, keep your eyes open. What do we got going on? And it's when you let your guard down, is when you get hit with it. Brett and I have done Brady hasn't lucky so far. Although lost a generator. You don't. You just got to judge every. Not everybody is. Has your best interest. Judge a book by its cover. Start calling crazy crazy on first glance, and you know what happens? Enough people start calling Tyler crazy, He's gonna go, I'm not crazy. And either go crazy or try to not be crazy anymore. It's like when you tell somebody you dress like an idiot. And if enough people start saying you dress like an idiot, the dude's gonna change the way he dresses. Like, why I thought I was. I'm not cool. Or he's gonna double down and have a personality based on the fact of what he knows everybody thinks of him.
Brady
Or he's gonna walk into the building.
John Holmberg
And shoot a bunch of people. No, that's not it, Brady. It's the love people that do that. It's the love people that do that. The ones that coddle their kids and tell them the world's against you. You've got to know girls will love you because they're all. That's the ones we're having trouble with. The ones who can't find love. Call people crazy before they go crazy. Stop telling them they're normal. The more they feel normal when they're actually crazy, and the less they fit in. Because they're crazy but nobody's saying so is when they snap. If a crazy person is told they're normal all the time, they think to themselves, well, then how come I can't fit in? Everybody tells me I'm normal and I can't fit in. Where's my girlfriend? It's because you're crazy. But your mom and your parents never said so. Your friends don't say so. You don't have any friends because you're crazy. And then your mom's like, kids are just unique. You let your freak flag fly. Okay, well, that's gonna result in flying, and nobody wants that. Crazy is crazy. If you got a crazy kid, look at him today and call him crazy. And also if you're in a Young Republicans group and you're loving Hitler. Delete, delete, delete. I don't know if you saw that either.
Brady
Your chat groups.
John Holmberg
Yeah, chat groups. Boy. And that's another thing. We. Let's just. Let's just clean the air here. Let's have a moment between all of us again. Like I said yesterday, all your stupid kids that you think are so angelic are making the Internet a horrible, racist, fat shaming, bullying nightmare. And then in real life, they're like, we don't like bullying. We don't want. Shut the up. You're the worst generation of all of us when it comes to that. Because you've got something to hide behind. Back in my day, why, when I was a boy, if you were a bully, you did it in person. And if you were a racist, you just were hanging out with Brett most of the time. That's how it worked. As I grew up, Brett was like, hey, this guy's all right. He tells funny jokes. I'm not bringing him home to anybody, but.
Brady
And I can't tell the jokes to everyone, right?
John Holmberg
So now you got something to hide behind, so screw you. The other thing is, it's time for people to stop saying stupid things like, I don't have any friends I talk to like that on the Internet. I don't have a throat. I would never say such. I would never say words like that. I don't use those types of words. That's why Tom Brennaman can't have a big job anymore. The one line he used, it wasn't because he said homo F word. It's because with a few minutes of that, he said, I'm a God fearing man. I don't even use words like that. Dude, yeah, you do. We heard you. And you should have just said, yeah, I say all the. And I just got caught. I got to be better people. He just still gotten fired because he was getting fired no matter what. But people would have been like, yeah, I get it. So do I. This Young Republicans group is just. It's riddled with what every. Everyone has in their phone. With one single group of friends, every man. I won't go on and say women do this, but I assume probably, I think so. Every man has a thread of friends. It's the worst friend group of all time. When it comes to the best, depending.
Sarah
On how you look at it, you.
Brady
Know, nothing is sacred.
John Holmberg
Nothing is off limits. Nothing is off limits. I have one in this room with you morons. The three of us are involved in another one with people who are just absolutely insane. We, they're. They're nuts. They. We torture each other. If that ever got out again. Go back to Johnny Depp's trial and other people, quote, lawyers ever read that to, to a jury, you have to do what Johnny Depp did and just say, you know, Mr. Depp, did you at one point or another say, that's good, I heart Hitler? Yes, I did. You have to just eat it because it's on there. I don't know, but it's. Today's the day to flop your own phone and go through and delete those. Not. Not delete them from your lives. Just delete the thread. There's no reason to have it every day at 11:58pm you should go through and if it says Doug Paul, Brett Brady on the thread, just delete it. Delete it, because there's no good coming from that. And then go back into deleted files and delete again. And then clear cache. And I don't know how many other things. I don't know how to do it, but I know that there's ways to get it off the phone. I don't know for sure. I got to go. I got to talk to Mike down there and just go, hey, Mike, Mike, when I delete Brett, Doug, Paul, and Brady from my phone, how do you find it? And then he'll go to one other thing. Ah, there's a. There's a whole secondary, recently deleted thing inside. Some other thing inside. Yeah, it's Inception. But flop your own phone today because I know a bunch of dudes in their trucks right now are laughing, going, it's me and James and Charles. You've got your group that does horrible.
Sarah
And you got different levels. Like, you're like, all right, this one. All right, that one goes to this.
John Holmberg
Group, not that one. I'm passing it over to this group, in fact. And I'm going to. I'm going to ice him right now. We have a thread group with Broomhead.
Sarah
Yeah.
John Holmberg
And at one point, Mike Broomhead from ktr. And it's funny stuff. Brett says to me. I'm not sure I can send Broomhead certain things. I'm like, oh, no, no, he's one of us. He'll laugh. Like, he. And you weren't worried about, like, just to the level. I just didn't want to offend him. Like, I don't know, is he ready for the whammy? Yeah. Is he ready for the. For the sledge o matic? Because I've got a great one. And it would fit right into the stuff we do because basically the Broomhead thing has turned into us sharing. Hilarious. Like, it started like WNBA stuff and then it's just like the women Olympics and like silly girl things and occasionally. Cause Mike used to be a bull rider. Some crazy stuff like that. And then Brett's just like, I don't know, this broom head thread. Is he okay if I. And I remember the phrase I used. It's all right, Brad. He's one of Us. That's true. And I did. And then the next thing you know, Brett's just going, take a look at his broom face. And we were dying. He just wasn't sure, like. But that was very diligent of you to make sure. The rest of the group we had. Somebody had to vouch for the guy that we could send terrible things from the Internet. But it's time we all stopped acting like, I don't want to hear from anybody who emails. Maybe you shouldn't send those things. Well, then maybe I should just get in the box. Because life isn't fun without hilarious taboo memes. We always have to have something that's a little taboo in our lives, because if you don't, you're gonna want it more. This is. It's almost a release valve. It's a little thing that hits the steam out of you for a second. Just go, all right. At least I'm not that. But this Young Republicans group had I love Hitler on there, had the homo F word. Somebody said the N word. We avoid all that stuff to the best of our ability. Sometimes the memes come through and you'll get one that, you know, I didn't create. You know.
Brady
Yeah, I'm just forwarding this.
John Holmberg
Most of the time. We are. Our threads are just horrific. AI now like, of things that. And, you know, the big. On the Mr. Roger stuff at this point. But I'm not going to lie and act like we're like, well, we're lily angels on this thing. We would never. All of us have that line we draw. We don't. And you know what's bad about it is that everybody acts like we're doing something wrong when the line is being given to us by the beautiful Internet and your kids. Six, seven, all of them. So, yeah, you got that thread. Kill it. But this Young Republicans group made a mistake. I didn't know when it was first presented, and I forgive them immediately. I don't care if it's Democrats or Republicans. People on the Internet, it's dumb to Texas, but everybody's but for the grace of God, there go I. I believe is the phrase, you can't. These are those moments where you can't go, I can't believe those guys would do that. If you're a Democrat and you're mad at the Republican group for saying silly things like Hitler this, Hitler that, go on your kid's phone and realize that it's happening, it's in your house, you're probably doing it, too. So I don't Care what the it does. It's not a win for a political group because pretty soon yours is going to have it too, because everybody's doing it. I forgive him. Holmberg's morning sickness. The thing I didn't forgive was there's a state councilman in this group and there's a couple 40 year olds. So when they kept saying it was Young Republicans, I think we all assumed it was a bunch of teenagers. It wasn't. It was dudes like us. And I swear, I know better. Brett was smart enough to go, I don't know about this Broomhead situation. I like him, but I don't know him well enough to know Brett. He's one of us. If you've got a state councilman in your thread and somebody says the homo F word, that dude's job at that moment is to go, I can't. I can't. Because one of the posts in this Young Republican thing was, if anybody got hold of these texts, we'd all be cooked. And that is the most prominent one, because that's proof that you know what you're doing is just detrimental. People are losing their jobs from. And should. But good Lord, now's the time to delete it all. Delete.
Brady
Because this stuff is funny.
John Holmberg
It is, though. It's a Brady. It is funny.
Sarah
And another.
John Holmberg
But you have to be careful in the group. Yeah, it doesn't matter if you think it's funny. If you're in a group where you're also discussing the future of Republican politics and you also. It's bad news for the people who want to achieve more later, dismiss yourself from that. If it's Brett Brady, Doug, me, now Broomhead's out and we're sending you stuff. You're like, well, those guys aren't going anywhere with future stuff. They're just Jack. They're professional jackasses.
Sarah
And always remember, if you get that thread from all your friends and there's one extra number there, it's not in your phone.
John Holmberg
Don't comment. Never comment. Oh, God. Is that the best advice of all time? If you've got just a number, who's that?
Sarah
Yeah, right, exactly.
John Holmberg
I got one with Hopkins. Make a wish. Sam. I'm so surprised he's still alive. And then a couple other people from Hopkins work that are just numbers. I think I know who those numbers.
Sarah
Are, but I chance it.
John Holmberg
I don't know. We don't send anything bad. It's mostly just immaculate grid results and sport and occasionally a funny sports thing. We'll go back and forth with that, Hopkins and I'll tell each, we basically are the two meanest people in the world, back and forth to each other. Doug Hopkins has the unbelievable skill of calling me right as I've sat down to take a deuce. So I send a picture of my pants around my ankles, and I'm like, you're a wizard. I don't know how you do this, like, hundreds of times. He's amazing at it. So we go back and forth, just teasing each other. You still wouldn't want those in a courtroom, but it's, you know, it's understandable. Private conversation. If Hopkins and I are on his work thing, and I'm like, man, that chick you got working at you, I sure would like to motorboat those. Then all of a sudden, it gets out at Doug's work, and now Doug's talking to John about somebody. It would be terrible. So we do talk about Doug's employees, but it's just the two of us privately, the way it used to be. There's no boss that doesn't look around his office and go, I'd probably her if it was the 70s. But it's 2025, so I've just got to bury that thought. Flop your own phone today, because we've all got it. And stop immediately. Stop acting like you're above it. You're not. You do terrible things on your. I've got terrible things in my phone. We all do. And it's time we just took a breath and said, stop acting like you're above. You're above this. If anybody asks, do you have. Do you. Don't. Don't shake your head. I can't believe. If you see it on the news and it's like these people were texting terrible things, just, oh, I can't believe people. You're doing it, too. Just go, yeah, that's normal. That's how people behave. And I don't want to hear from anybody. If you're listening to this show and you're going to email me and go, like, I would never, ever put those things. Shut up. Yes, you would. You've made a trans joke. You've got a topic, You've done something, you've made fun of a group which.
Brady
Would rather have all that memes and stuff like that. Dark comedy, whatever, or just a constant threat of where should we protest or break down, Right?
John Holmberg
But again, I'm sure those protesty feminists are like, God, I'd love to if it wasn't for those Chinese protesters that show up I can't stand them. There's always one who's like, there's an Asian lady there. That's when she does her protest march. She screams, and it's a shrill sound. And I'm sure some of those feminists are like, ugh, is Quan Lee coming? She's like, why do you not like Quan Lee? Oh, don't get me wrong. It's just I don't know her voice. Oh, I know she. And all you need is one person to go, me too. And then they start their own thread. And then a third will say something, text that girl too. She's with us. And then they start making racist, like, this is Quan Lee. They'll find a lady screaming and yelling, an Asian. And they'll send it to each other going, doesn't this remind you of Kwan Lee at our protest? They're bad, too. So you feminists, the marchers, are the ones who are the most hateful. They've got a whole group. They just out and out, admit they don't like. It's time we stopped. You all have something horrible in your phone. Stop judging other people who get caught with it. And if you are somebody who's got, like, political aspirations and you're in a thread that's talking about how much everybody loves Hitler, even if it's a joke, should probably just step away, step out of that. Because even, like, Broomhead, he's a political fellow, he's got some connections. But we're not running back and forth telling each other how much we love Hitler. Now, occasionally there might be a World War II meme that pops through, that's very funny to us. You know, it sounds bad when you're explaining it, but all jokes do. Enjoy yourselves. That's what I'm saying. Have fun out there with your garbage, silly. Yeah, this Todd Martin is right. If anybody's ever laughed at south park and you have no idea how they're getting away with it, they're the only ones who do. And you're laughing. You're guilty. If you've ever laughed at one, you're guilty, too. So just, you know, everybody, lighten up. Sticks out of acid. And just remember, your kids are doing it, too. Your kids are not good people. None of them are, to a certain degree. The kids are the ones making most of these videos. Then I thank them for that. I think it's a beautiful Flop your phone. That's all I'm saying. Six, seven, flop your phone today. Six, seven, star. And if you've got kids, go through those Too. This guy said, wait, you don't like Dave in the thread? I thought all you jews stuck together. This doesn't make any sense to me. But yeah, you're right, Dave. Yeah, judge. That's our message today. Judge people immediately. And if you don't like them, just avoid them. Like even if they. Until they prove you different. You know what the best phrase I've ever heard someone say to me ever. It's the biggest compliment I can get. You know, John, I was wrong about you in a positive way. That's such a revealing phrase to say you hated me just based on my face. Like right off the bat, you judged me. Not for me. And I'm fine with that. Cause I do that a lot of the times too. I get it.
Brady
But when you pass.
John Holmberg
But when they. When they tell you, you know what's wrong about you, you really won me over. It's like, I'm still gonna be a little self conscious of that. Well, what did I do wrong? Cause I wanna correct that behavior so I don't do it over and over. The only way you're right. Yeah, well, most of the time you're. 95% of the time they. Did you meet that idiot? I don't know about this new guy. Who? Ed downstairs. I don't know about him. Everybody's like, what? Yeah, have you talked to Ed yet? He's crazy. And then you heard he turned around. Ed's fine. Somebody said, good. Like, really? Okay. Have you met Kevin Belly downstairs? Does he even speak English? Like, no. No. Somebody's got to talk to him to find out.
Brady
It'll happen one day with Brett. He's like, you know, yeah, I really enjoyed that carnival cruise.
John Holmberg
It could be that's not gonna happen. I prejudged that too. I'm not going on that. I'm not. I know immediately I'm not gonna fit into that. Same reason I won't go to the boom boom room. I want to. I want to real bad. But I think when I walk in, they're gonna look at me and judge me immediately and go, we don't want you here. Hellcats early this year, look no further than our own building. Is that for 10 years before I finally broke the door down and said, hey, Corey, do you want to come on with us? We had a dude working here that simply had a limp. No one knew him. Avoided him like the plague.
Brady
Never had a date of birth.
John Holmberg
And why. Yeah. And why? Yeah. He never got a birthday card. Never got the email. Birthday. Hey, everybody, it's Corey Thriller's birthday today? Never. Because we just avoided him. Why? Because we didn't know if he was super sensitive about the thing. And we all probably felt a little guilty going, well, I do make fun of that walk quite a bit. Not his so much.
Sarah
You shouldn't do that.
John Holmberg
Generally, I've made. Maybe he hates me because for me especially, I've been out loud about it. But all these other people. Nobody ever approached Corey, ever. Everybody avoided the crippled kid. And then I kicked the door down. And now Corey's like the. He's the toast of the town. John Gordon was the only one that. Corey's great. I don't know why he got. You've talked to it. Is it nice? Did you catch anything? Is it contagious? What's he got?
Brady
Does he have a birthday?
John Holmberg
Because Emily downstairs never knew the birthday. He said, hey, Cory, what's your birthday? How come it didn't come through in the email? Oh, I never had a birthday here. How long have you worked here, Corey? I was expecting the word months to come out of his mouth. 10 years. What?
Brady
He's not getting paid, is he?
John Holmberg
10 years and he wasn't. He was selling blood and plasma to pay for his stuff. I understand that you had the crippled boy on your show today. You've opened that door. Yeah, Tripp, he seems pretty nice. Well, I've been paying him in crippled pay, which I made up myself. And it's a third of the. You know. Cause he moves his third. Well, not all of them. There's a couple people downstairs that move at the same snail's pace, and they're completely okay. But if you can't make it down the hall in less than eight minutes, I don't have to pay you full wage. I want to go to stake 44. It's on the company. Can we not pay Corey? Why? Yeah, you're right. Let's. I'll meet you over there. So we all kind of avoided Corey. And then you find out Corey is also. If he was healthy and had the same mentality, he's Ed Geen. There's no question that Corey has that gene in him that this could go sideways. I love Corey. I think he's great. But I met his friend, and that was the day I knew that those two sit in a weird shed sometimes and talk about people's skin.
Brady
Met his parents on Friday.
John Holmberg
You met his parents?
Brady
And they're nice.
John Holmberg
Maybe worse than us about. They told us to have a contest with him, see how fast he can get in and out of our cars.
Brady
Yeah.
John Holmberg
You ever seen Corey try to get into a truck? I'm like, why would we have seen that? You need to time it and put it on the air. It's like the dad was big on good wager. Use him as a game. Really? Yeah.
Sarah
KUPD truck. It's jacked up and everything.
John Holmberg
Yeah. See if you can get into the truck. He can't, by the way. He's gonna fall. It's hilarious. I'm his father. It's okay.
Brady
We do it all the time at home.
John Holmberg
Like, in order to feed Corey, he has to go through, like, an obstacle course. It's hilarious. Anyway. All right, the word this morning, six o', clock, is stub. S T U B. Get on that, put it in the app and knock it down. And then give us a call or text over to Brett. You're not texting stub. You're doing it on the app in the promo code. So do it there. Give us a Wake up song. 585-9800 is the number. You know how to do this by now. And we'll scream it together. It's 98 KVD. Wake up. It's out of control now.
Host: John Holmberg
Co-hosts: Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo
Date: October 16, 2025
Episode Theme:
This episode dives into the confusion and skepticism caused by convincing AI-generated videos, public reactions to AI and online misinformation, Ohio’s legislative push to preempt AI personhood and relationships, and a candid rant on judging people based on first impressions. The infectious mix of Arizona morning banter, wry cynicism, and social commentary runs throughout.
The team wrestles with the ever-blurring line between real and AI-generated content ("I Thought That Was Real Club"), with Holmberg admitting he's fallen for several online fakes lately. Tangents include legislative efforts in Ohio against granting AI personhood or marriage rights, and how group chats can be ticking time bombs for anyone—especially public figures. Throughout, the crew debates the value (or delusion) of society’s insistence on "not judging a book by its cover" and the normalization of group-based inappropriate jokes in digital culture.
Falling for AI Fakes:
Misinformation and Election Warnings:
AI-Generated Comedy and Memes:
Preemptive Legislation:
Growth of AI-Generated Content:
Holmberg’s Philosophy:
Social Safety and Sanity:
Scrub Your Phones!
Young Republicans Group Chat Scandal:
No One’s Immune:
Holmberg on AI confusion:
On the societal implications of AI:
On “judging” as a survival tool:
On keeping private chats private:
On group hypocrisy:
The show is a brash, honest, and darkly comic reflection on how we’re all susceptible to AI “deepfakes,” why everyone judges at first glance (and should), and how no one is immune from harboring questionable jokes or content in private (especially in group chats). The hosts urge realism: accept your foibles, judge early, don’t pretend you’re above dark humor, and—whatever you do—scrub your phones.
Final Message:
Judge people immediately (but be open to being proven wrong); protect yourself from AI misinformation; and above all, don't get caught with incriminating group chats—because, as Holmberg repeats, "you all have something horrible in your phone."