10-20-25 - Entertainment Drill - MON - Will Toledo Give His World Series Tickets To Trip If Mariners Lose Game 7?

Summary

Episode Overview

Main Theme:
This episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness revolves around baseball fandom anxiety and the potential misery of premature celebration, centered on Richard “Dick” Toledo’s possibly ill-fated purchase of World Series tickets for his Seattle Mariners—despite their spot still hanging in the balance. The hosts—John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, and Dick Toledo—riff on sports superstitions, emotional investment in teams, and the agony and euphoria of longtime sports fans, before jumping into the "Entertainment Drill" with some celebrity gossip.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Toledo’s World Series Ticket Dilemma (01:12–06:00)

• Context: With the Mariners up 2–0 but now at risk after losing their lead, Toledo bought World Series tickets before they were assured a berth.
• Host Reactions:
  • John Holmberg teases Toledo for the “mush” and wonders if Dodgers fan Tripp would want Toledo’s tickets if Seattle loses.
  • Tripp laughs off the idea, refusing to sit anywhere but the premium seats:
    • "There’s no way Tripp is sitting in the outfield." (02:07, John/Tripp)
    • "Trip sits in seats where you can read the names and numbers of the players." (02:28, John)
• Toledo’s Feelings:
  • Admits to feeling “like crap” (03:34) about the team’s collapse, blames Mariners management, and describes the constant emotional letdown:
    • "Sports sucks really, when you think about it." (03:58, John)
    • "It’s always heartbreak. Always." (04:04, Toledo)
  • Echoes relief over the idea of eventual victory, referencing Cubs fans who lost their obsessive fandom post-championship.

Notable Quote:

"If the Mariners do go to the World Series and win it, quit being a fan. It hurts too much after." —John Holmberg (04:04)

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2. The Psychology of Long-Suffering Fans (04:10–06:42)

• Comparing fanbases:
  • Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns, DAZ Browns, Jets, Vikings—hosts discuss what it means to be perpetually disappointed, with special sympathy for those whose teams rarely (or never) win titles.
    • "If you got a team that's consistently competitive in there, it's what, 100 years? 108. It's brutal." (04:26, John)
• Coping Mechanisms:
  • Concepts of relief, community among “loser” fanbases, and even the difference between football and baseball fan pain.

Notable Quote:

“You can huddle up with a bunch of other losers and feel some sort of community. I guess. I don't know what they do.” —John Holmberg (07:13)

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3. The Superstition & Self-Sabotage of Sports Fans (06:42–09:03)

• Superstitions:
  • The danger of “jinxing” one’s own team—Toledo’s ticket purchase as a possible curse is playfully lambasted.
    • "He's the dick. You're right. If you were calling him the dick, you're right. He's the one who did this to himself by buying tickets to a World Series his team wasn't even in yet." (07:29, John)
• Life Lessons:
  • Some tie-ins to general advice about not sabotaging oneself, segueing into a sponsor read about personal defense (reactdefense.com):
    • "Why are you doing that? Don't do that to yourself anymore." (08:24, John)

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4. Entertainment Drill – Pop Culture Highlights (09:03–13:17)

Jennifer Lopez's "Can't Find Love" Comments (09:03–09:57)

• J.Lo claims it's hard to find a man who loves her; ex-husband Ojani Noa publicly rebuffs her statements, implying she was unfaithful:
  • "You didn't keep it in your pants." (09:30, Host quoting Noa)

Robert Pattinson Eats Out of Jennifer Lawrence's Trash (10:01–10:39)

• Jennifer Lawrence recounts Pattinson eating food from her trash during a visit, unbothered by its status as literal garbage.
  • "He just ate right out of the trash." (10:38, John)

Toledo's Secret Ticket Purchase Busted at Home (10:56–12:18)

• Toledo’s wife finds out he bought the expensive tickets via the radio show; she calls him "dumb" but then suddenly wants to go—highlighting partner dynamics over big, risky splurges tied to sports fandom.

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5. Running Gags, Local Politics & Wrap-Up (12:23–13:36)

• Local Political Shout-out: Holmberg jokes about having shifted the polls for Jack Ciattarelli in New Jersey just because he likes the guy’s name.
• Community Connection:
  • Ongoing fun at Toledo’s expense, with cohosts ribbing him for "mushing" his team and not consulting his wife.
    • "She has every right to say you are dumb and go, yeah, but she's not going to enjoy it if they lose..." (12:10, John on Lisa Toledo)

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Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• "Sports sucks really, when you think about it." —John Holmberg (03:58)
• "It’s always heartbreak. Always." —Dick Toledo (04:04)
• "If the Mariners do go to the World Series and win it, quit being a fan. It hurts too much after." —John Holmberg (04:10)
• "Trip sits in seats where you can read the names and numbers of the players." —John Holmberg (02:28)
• "You didn't keep it in your pants." —Host, quoting J.Lo's ex Ojani Noa (09:30)
• "He just ate right out of the trash." —John Holmberg (10:38)
• "You can huddle up with a bunch of other losers and feel some sort of community. I guess. I don't know what they do." —John Holmberg (07:13)
• "She goes, you bought tickets? And I said, Maybe. And she goes, you're dumb." —Dick Toledo (11:15)

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Segment Timestamps

| Segment | Start | End | Notes | |--------------------------------------|----------|----------|-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | Sports Ticket Drama | 01:12 | 06:42 | Mariners, Dodgers, ticket-jinxing, superstitions, emotional toll | | Long-Suffering Sports Fandom | 04:10 | 06:42 | Detroit, Cleveland, coping mechanisms | | Entertainment Drill & Celebrity News | 09:03 | 12:18 | J.Lo gossip, Jennifer Lawrence’s trash food, Toledo home drama | | Local Politics & Wrap-Up | 12:23 | 13:36 | Jack Ciattarelli poll improvements, closing banter |

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Episode Summary

• The episode humorously and insightfully explores the superstitions and emotional pitfalls of being a die-hard sports fan, anchored by Toledo’s potentially ill-fated World Series ticket purchase.
• The crew candidly discusses the difference between heartbroken fanbases and “spoiled” perennial contenders, describes the relief and emptiness after finally seeing a life-longed-for championship, and pokes fun at their own obsessions.
• Entertainment gossip offers playful palate-cleansers—none weirder than Robert Pattinson’s trash can diet and J.Lo’s public disputes with exes.
• Throughout, the show maintains a blend of sarcasm, empathy, and inside-baseball ribbing, giving listeners a window into both the pain and joy of fandom—plus a little perverse pleasure in seeing a colleague “jinx” his own happiness.

Transcript

[A]

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[A]

You were laughing like a hyena when he said it. What the hell is wrong with you? All right, we have to discuss it. I don't want to jinx it, but we have to. The emails have been bugging me all morning. Anyway, Richard's Seattle Mariners, who He just mushed. Mushed. Bought tickets. Richard did to the World Series after they were up 2 0. Here comes Tripp. And Tripp is laughing already. He walks in laughing. Come on in. So, Tripp, you are. Your Dodgers are in the World Series.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

All right. And his Mariners also had a 20 lead in their series, but couldn't pull it off the way the Dodgers did. Right? Right. The Dodgers closed the deal tonight, and I'd like to broker this. If the Mariners lose, would you give Tripp your tickets? No. Tripp, you're welcome because you don't want these garbage tickets anywhere. Tripp would rather.

[D]

Exactly. Why? There's no way Tripp is sitting in the outfield.

[A]

He would fly. He told me already.

[D]

No way.

[A]

I would fly to Toronto before I would ever.

[E]

Are there seats all the way out there?

[A]

Yeah, there Are those are actual concern about them people. That's not like a prison transfer or anything. Those are actual human beings that are there. I thought those were. That's the way the workers go. Well, that. Yeah. And then they. Yeah, well, I guess they are mostly.

[D]

Trip sits in seats where you can read the names and numbers of the players.

[A]

Well, you can see the game. It's an important aspect of being at the gift. So you don't want his tickets? Thank you. Even. Okay. Just checking in. Even free. They're that bad. Are you gonna. Do you want to make a friendly wager if the Mariners are in? No.

[D]

No.

[A]

You don't want to make. You don't want to do it again.

[D]

You're just gonna wax the Mariners. You think? Have you seen the past four games of the Mariners?

[A]

Did you hear what he just said though? No contest.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

He just jinxed the Dodgers. Oh, please. Now it's just going to be a bunch of people banging heads and nothing's going to happen everywhere. All right. I just want to pick. I want to make the offer to Trip that you had a couple of tickets just laying around you're probably not going to be able to use. And I know a guy who. Oh, do you regret My buddy Dave. And take us to the Series. Dave. I mean, be more specific. Dave. Robert. Anyway. Yeah. Are you feeling the oops?

[D]

I'm not feeling the oops.

[A]

How did you feel last night?

[E]

Like crap.

[D]

Like I didn't.

[A]

Butterflies.

[E]

There's got to be butterflies.

[D]

Dan Wilson is just mismanaging the.

[E]

The whole thing.

[A]

I read Dan Wilson's lips last night. God damn it. Toledo is all I kept saying.

[B]

That's fair.

[A]

You're Jesus. It's a good series. You didn't expect that after two. Zero. No. You're not having any fun with this. Sports sucks really. When you think about.

[D]

Was a great Friday. But then it's also to what end? Like it's always heartbreak. Always.

[A]

I'm telling you right now, if the Mariners do go to the World Series and win it, quit being a fan.

[D]

I have to.

[A]

It hurts too much after. Especially when you've waited as long if they. If they were consistently there, it's different. Never like trips. Being a Dodger fan is like meh. Will be there next year.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

Like it's a constant for them.

[E]

Exactly.

[D]

If you've got a team, all those other teams have multiple World Series fu.

[A]

Yeah. If you got a team that's consistently competitive in there, it's what, 100 years? 108. It's brutal.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I. I understand more now why you gave up. I don't know if you gave up on the Cubs, but why you stopped.

[A]

I don't have it like I used to.

[D]

I understand it.

[A]

The diseases.

[D]

I understand it.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

If you get there, it's like there is so much effort and time and. Oh, your whole life put into every eight months a year.

[A]

Your whole life has been. The Mariners failing.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Especially the last 25.

[A]

It stinks. All right. Trip doesn't want your credit tickets.

[E]

Reflecting when the Cubs finally did.

[A]

It couldn't wait for that.

[E]

It was worth it, right?

[A]

No, no, it was. It was a odd relief and almost anticlimactic. It was this. It felt great that your team wins it all, but it just took all this weight off of you. Like, I don't have to do this anymore. Like, it was almost a freeing. I felt like I had been released from prison. Yes. It was euphoric. But then I'm like, now I just don't. I don't want anything if that. I can't get involved in that again.

[D]

From Thursday night, I realized I'm like, God damn it. I have to wait until next October to even know if they're gonna be close again.

[A]

I have a feeling Suns fans are gonna be the same.

[D]

Did you see their payroll?

[A]

Oh, well, last year was the second highest in all of sports, but if you get it now, the payroll's not terrible. This year, they still owe money for old guys, though. But if they win it all, it's going to be more of a relief than it is a celebration. It's the weirdest thing, and I've talked to other Cub fans about it. It's, like, felt the same way. It's like it was over. It wasn't like it's finally, the nightmare is over. It wasn't, oh, my God, we want it. It was. That whole mess has ended.

[D]

It's just all of it. It's different. I was telling somebody else. It's different in football. It's just different.

[A]

Yep.

[D]

A season seems to be. Feels like it's shorter than.

[A]

Well, not for the season. I mean. Well, you got your championships. Yeah. You got.

[D]

We've been there three times in 20 years.

[A]

I know.

[D]

Two losses.

[A]

But then you get to be like Browns and Jets and there are teams.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Detroit. Detroit, Minnesota.

[A]

It's going to hurt more Detroit fans when they get out of this open window and it. And there's no title and it closes.

[E]

Oh, rebuild.

[A]

Then you turn back into the Lions again.

[D]

How do you like Just relating to Mariners. How do you do it in Cleveland? How do you do it as a Browns fan? They took your team away.

[A]

Well, you're in Ohio.

[D]

Gave it back.

[A]

You're in northern Ohio. Your life's miserable all the time. You're used to it.

[D]

When they gave it back, you've gone through, what, 29 starting quarterbacks.

[A]

Doesn't matter. You're a Browns fan. Life. Life was not good in the first place. And then you strapped yourself up.

[E]

It creates a stronger bond.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And they built it.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

You can huddle up.

[E]

Look at those fans.

[A]

You can huddle up with a bunch of other losers and feel some sort of community. I guess. I don't know what they do. Anyway, it's time for the entertainment, Joe. Good luck with your ticket sales, Toledo, because you're not going anywhere. I'm trying to reverse it. Trying to help him back. I know. I'm trying to help back. He's the dick. You're right. If you were calling him the dick, you're right. He's the one who did this to himself by buying tickets to a World Series his team wasn't even in yet. Oh, boy.

[D]

Do in the game is Saturday game or Sunday game two, I think.

[A]

All right, well, we're all counting on. See. See a Monday morning right here in the morning sickness with Toledo present. And by then it'll be Toronto LA11 when you're back on Monday from your World Series game. Boy, what a kick in the dick. Did it to himself. Did it to himself. Just don't buy World Series tickets. It's time for the entertainment drill. Brady. It is brought to you by our [e-mail] the home of tactical Black. I don't know if they can help you from kicking yourself in the dick, but they can if somebody else is trying to. Yeah, just. Yeah, I guess that's the best defense.

[D]

Is why are you doing it?

[A]

Why are you doing that? Don't do that to yourself anymore. There's a lot of that. Why are you doing that? Is the big question at react defense. What are you doing that for? That's a huge. What are you doing?

[E]

Stop it.

[A]

They teach you how to stop saying that and start asking yourself, why am I doing this? I'm putting myself in harm's way. They teach you how to get out of situations before they even start. Sort of like the way Toledo bought tickets to a World Series with a team that's not even in it yet. He could have defended your bank account from that move and also get you in great shape while you're at it. You're going to have some fun. You're going to meet great people who are like minded and. And you guys are going to become better versions of yourselves. Reactdefense.com it's the home of Tactical Black Brady. Quickly Entertainment.

[E]

Jennifer Lopez did an interview on Howard Stern and talked about how she couldn't find a man to love her.

[A]

She's had like eight.

[E]

They're not capable, she pointed out, but her ex. Oh, Johnny Noah, they were married from 1997-98.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

He said, no, you've been married four times. You're. We all loved you. We are capable. The problem was you didn't reciprocate.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

You didn't keep it in your pants.

[D]

Oh.

[E]

She's like, I want to.

[A]

I'm coming out on this.

[E]

Yeah. He basically did. He said, you. She was a unfaithful.

[A]

No kidding. So she started to splash it around and tell everybody else.

[E]

The whole time she's been talking their fault. It's like, no, it's not. According to.

[A]

Wow. Johnny Ohtani.

[E]

Oh, Johnny.

[A]

Or whatever his name is. Oh, Johnny.

[E]

Jennifer Lawrence. She's recently done a movie with Robert Pattinson that's coming out. Die My Love comes out November 7th. So she's doing the interview and she was on the Graham Norton show and she talked about when Robert Pattinson came over when they were doing another movie before this. And he said, you got any food? She's like, yeah, I do. And he goes to the bathroom and she pulls the food out of the garbage because she's thrown everything away.

[A]

He ate her garbage.

[E]

Ate the garbage food. He's like, got any more? And she goes, yeah, I do, but it's. It's all in the garbage can.

[A]

Oh.

[E]

He's like, I'm fine with that.

[A]

He just ate right out of the trash.

[E]

Yeah. Why would you answer question half a century.

[A]

Do you have any food with. Yes. If you've thrown it away. If you ask me right now, John, do you have any food? I'm like, no, because I just tossed it.

[E]

She folded under pressure.

[A]

By the way, everybody wants to tell Toledo happy domestic violence month tonight. Tonight might be. You might want to watch that one alone.

[E]

Lisa, find something to do to this.

[A]

She'll be a post.

[D]

She found out Friday had been able to keep a video from her until Friday when she was listening to the show, getting ready.

[A]

Me physically. Oh, you found her with the tickets.

[D]

Texting me. She goes, you bought tickets? And I said, Maybe. And she goes, you're dumb.

[A]

Oh, you didn't tell her?

[D]

No.

[A]

That'S dumb.

[D]

It's my account.

[A]

Yeah, but still.

[E]

It'S my account or.

[A]

Get away with that. Good job.

[E]

I would never do something like that.

[A]

But then Pretty bought an RV for somebody's birthday and it turned out to be his.

[E]

That's true.

[A]

It's my account. Wow. All right.

[D]

But then Friday, when they won, she's like, who are you gonna take? And I'm like, I don't know yet. I'm not sure. They said Alex wants to go. And she goes, oh, does he?

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, yeah. And then she's like, well, I'm like, oh, you want to go now?

[A]

Oh, she wants to tackle.

[D]

Like I was up. She says, well, yeah, it's a once in a life. I'm like, you can't tell me I'm dumb.

[A]

That's what you are. Well, no, I'm telling you, you're dumb, too.

[D]

I agreed with her, but I'm like, wait a minute.

[A]

No. She has every right to say you are dumb and go, yeah, but she's not going to enjoy it if they lose the game.

[D]

She better not.

[A]

Yeah, she's going to be miserable anyway.

[E]

Good luck, Dodgers.

[A]

By the way, Jersey. A couple months ago, I started to throw my support behind Jack Ciattarelli out there in New Jersey. He's getting close. It's working. He's. I know he's getting close. I got an email that says, are you still in the Citarella camp? And I'm like, I know Jack Ciadarelli. I'm in. He's going to win. Or maybe. It's awfully tight. It was like 48 to 16 when I started talking about him. It's not my. It's not my way back when I found out, I act like I had. I had nothing to do with it, and now it's like, 48, 44.

[E]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

He's right on top. And if you're looking at the way that's going, she's stagnant. He's flying forward. Governor Citarelli is a very real possibility in our world. And before you email me, I don't even know what side he's on. I just like his name. Anybody named Jack Schitterelli? Get Stu. Good, bad or otherwise. He's had a lot of obstacles just from the second grade on.

[E]

Oh, man.

[A]

Once the teacher said, jack Seattle Seattarali Cittarelli. Your name is Jack Schitterelli? Yeah. Okay.

[D]

Jack's not short for anything.

[A]

Jack Sia to rally. Nope. You missed it again. My name and get to know me. I'm Jack Ciattarelli.

[D]

You'll know about me soon.

[A]

You are gonna know Jack Ciatarelli. That's his name. Nothing I can do about it. Anyway. We're done. 1008 Larry's next. Fitz has your words for later in the day and we'll talk to you tomorrow right here in the morning sickness, Arizona's most powerful powerful rock radio station. It's John Holberg here from the morning sickness and I'm sitting with shane orlando from orlandoautobody.com. you see somebody with a dinged up car and you kind of feel like, why don't you get that fixed? What do you find is the reason most people don't come to you and get their car fixed when it needs to be fixed?

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