10-23-25 - Entertainment Drill - THU - w/Dale Hellestrae - Barbie/Mattel Has Released Second Stevie Nicks Doll

Summary

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Holmberg's Morning Sickness – Entertainment Drill (10-23-25)

Theme:
The team dives into a lively Entertainment Drill, riffing on everything from gun safety and the “dark web” to reality TV secrets and the latest collector’s Barbie—this time honoring Stevie Nicks. The banter is peppered with local Arizona ties, inside jokes, and playful digs among friends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Gun Retention and Self-Defense (01:14–03:20)

• John Holmberg shares a vivid story inspired by “tactical black” self-defense training:
  • Describes a social media video where a security guard neutralizes a threat, underscoring the importance of continuing to act until the danger is gone.
  • “You have to understand your higher power because you feel confident with [a gun], but... unless you know how to work it, unless you know how to guard it, you don’t know what you’re doing.” (John, 02:29)
• Brett relates: He used to carry his handgun in his waistband, but after training, realized how easy it is for someone to take it.
• Holmberg strongly recommends anyone with a concealed carry permit learn gun retention, with a plug for React Defense.

2. The “Dark Web” Bit (03:20–04:34)

• Dale innocently asks, “Can you tell me what the dark web is?” (03:20)
• John and crew go off on a comedic tangent:
  • Holmberg jokes, “It shows up. The dark web finds you,” and plays with the idea of “black ink” before hitting the punchline—referencing the adult site “blacked.com,” much to Dale’s confusion and embarrassment.
  • “Sit down with your wife… I want to show you something…” (John, 04:07).

3. Reality TV and STD Tests (04:38–05:40)

• Brett reports on a reality TV casting director, Kristen Moss, who says many applicants are dismissed for having STDs.
  • “We dismiss a lot of people that try out because of STDs.” (Brett, 04:38)
• John comments on show logistics: They require contestants to be screened and “clean” due to the inherent sexual nature of certain shows like “Love Island.”

4. Michael Keaton’s Walk of Fame Mishap (05:40–06:36)

• Brett shares that Pittsburgh’s new Walk of Fame misspelled “Michael” Keaton’s name on his plaque.
• The crew jokes about other Pittsburgh legends like Mr. Rogers, Andy Warhol, and sports heroes.
• Holmberg notes Keaton once worked on “Mr. Rogers”' set: “He ran the train for make believe—he would push it and talk on the other side of the wall.” (John, 06:30)

5. Joe Pesci Declines Scorsese Doc (06:37–07:03)

• Pesci refused to be interviewed for a Martin Scorsese docu-series because he doesn’t want to discuss real-life criminals he based characters on.
  • “If I do that, he’s a rat. I’m in trouble.” (Brett, 06:55)
• Crew riffs on the wisdom of “no talking, shut up, keep your mouth.”

6. Stevie Nicks Gets a Second Barbie (07:04–08:52)

• Dale reveals Mattel has released a second Stevie Nicks Barbie, styled after her classic “Bella Donna” album cover, albeit sold only to Barbie Club 59 members and already sold out at $60 apiece.
• Conversation turns nostalgic-local:
  • Recollections of Nicks’ attire and age; discussion of whether she (or Linda Carter) attended Arcadia High School—both apparently did.
  • “My God, that’s crazy. She’s 77 and making Barbies of her. Hey, that’s pretty good. Good for her.” (John, 08:52)
• Side joke about Kardashian “bush,” leading to playful confusion.

7. Playful Sports Banter and Weekend Plans (09:00–09:53)

• The segment closes on inside jokes about upcoming NFL games, jersey odors, and social plans.
• “You’re not coming by wearing any Ravens gear to my house.” (John, 09:15)
• Teasing Dale about mistaken identities, football allegiances, and plans to “see you Sunday.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On gun retention:
  “It’s the easiest thing in the world to go, ‘This is mine now.’” (John, 02:43)
• On reality TV standards:
  “We dismiss a lot of people that try out because of STDs.” (Brett, 04:38)
• On celebrity honors gone wrong:
  “They misspelled his name on the plaque. They reversed the E and the A. Misspell that Mike Eel.” (Brett, 05:53)
• On Scorsese and Pesci:
  “If I do that, he’s a rat. I’m in trouble.” (Brett, 06:55)
• On local celebrity trivia:
  “She went to Arcadia High School…Did Stevie Nicks go to Arcadia, too?” (Dale & John, 08:20–08:25)
• On age and icons:
  “My God, that’s crazy. She’s 77 and making Barbies of her. Hey, that’s pretty good.” (John, 08:52)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Gun Retention & Self-Defense Discussion: 01:14–03:20
• “Dark Web” Comedy Bit: 03:20–04:34
• Reality TV STD Testing: 04:38–05:40
• Michael Keaton Walk of Fame: 05:40–06:36
• Joe Pesci & Scorsese: 06:37–07:03
• Stevie Nicks Barbie: 07:04–08:52
• Closing Sports Banter: 09:00–09:53

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Tone and Style

True to the show’s style, the conversation is irreverent, sarcastic, and packed with quick-witted local and pop culture references. The hosts frequently roast each other and riff on topics loosely tethered to the entertainment news of the day, creating a sense of “listening in” on an inside joke between old friends. If you missed the episode, this summary captures both the content and the character of the crew’s banter.

Transcript

[John Holmberg]

You're listening to the HMS Podcast, brought to you by MMP guns.com your most trusted online marketplace for firearms, ammunition and accessories. It's John Holmberg here. Shaylon away from my friends at New Vision Auto Glass. Brady just had his windshield replaced. Toledo just had his windshield replaced. And Brett evidently got jealous because his windshield got cracked on his drive to work the other day. New Vision Auto Glass, they're your best friends. They'll fix that ugly busted glass, then give you up to $375 back and you'll get dinner at the world famous Brazilian steakhouse, Rodizio Grill. Go to new vision autoglass.com, see what you qual, then get it fixed. Call 480-210-9090. New Vision Auto Glass, proud sponsor of the Arizona Diamondback. You thought that was funny?

[Dale]

You were laughing like a hyena when he said it. What the hell is wrong with you?

[John Holmberg]

Sorry, everybody. It's true. Stuff's hard to catch, man. It's hard to catch. And I'm not. I am not disgusting. I. There's so much sports stuff to talk about. We're gonna have to do it on the podcast, Right? That'll happen on the John Holmberg Sports podcast. That sports thing with John Holmberg and friends and the annoying one and then. And also Dave Nash.

[Dale]

Yeah, see what I did there?

[John Holmberg]

He called himself that. It's time for the entertainment drill. It's brought to you by our [e-mail] that's the home of tactical black self defense training. And you got all sorts of reasons to defend yourself in this world. I've been watching these Instagram videos, the Dark Web. Have you seen the ones where there was a great one the other day where it was a perfect example of what they do at Tactical Black. A guy comes in and a security guard pushes him, says, you're not allowed past this quite. You know, we got a line going. It's evidently like full or whatever. And he pushes him. And the guy goes, you know who I am? Don't you know? He pulls a gun out of his waistband and he goes to lift it and security guard ends him. Eight, nine shots. And he's like, that's it.

[Dale]

And shots with his fist or the.

[John Holmberg]

Gun kills a guy in the doorway. And everybody's, you know, all these people in this article were like, did you have to unload the whole magazine in him? And he's like, did you notice that when he hit the ground, he shot twice. I'd shot him eight times. And he Pulled the trigger two times on the ground as you keep shooting until it stops moving. And then everybody else was like, whoa. And they're like, that's how you train for that kind of stuff. If somebody's gonna pull a gun on you, you have to. It's the scariest thing in the world, even when we just drill it up there. But there's a bunch of videos on here of, like, they did it right, and the general public can't take it, but this guy did it right. And there's times when they do it wrong, too. But it is really remarkable if you're. If you're a guy who carries a weapon, you have to understand your higher power because you feel confident with it. But Brett was with me that one time when we started to do gun retention. So easy to take it from me. And you don't realize that you just feel a little bit stronger. And unless you know how to work it, unless you know how to guard it, you don't know what you're doing. And that's a fact. And that's not, you know, being mean to you. Be smart about it. And you should want to learn. Gun retention. It's an amazing. Brett used to keep it in his. You know, kept it in your back. Not doing that anymore. It's like. Because it's just the easiest thing in the world to go. This is mine now. So simple. And they teach you all that stuff. Gun retention is the best thing, I think they do up there for people who have a concealed carrier or carry permit. If you're a guy who does that, you should look into it. Reactdefense.com. they're gonna make you better at being you. It's the home of tactical Black Brady. Entertain me.

[Dale]

Before you say something, can you tell me what the dark web is?

[John Holmberg]

It's. Yeah, it's a dark.

[Dale]

How do you. How do you find the dark web?

[John Holmberg]

It shows up. The dark web finds you. Yeah, it's kind of a really. I don't know how to do it. There's some sort of secondary. What is that called? John cobalt or some sort of other language of computer. Oh, that drops you out of the regular Internet into another one. And sometimes the dark web videos will pop up on regular one.

[Dale]

I. I've just heard that term before, and I'm like, I don't.

[Brett]

I don't think I found it.

[John Holmberg]

Stuff you don't want to be.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Well, here's the thing, Dale. If you want to get on the dark web.

[Dale]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

If you want to just see The. The basic introduction. Get your phone out right now. It's blacked. Start there. Sit down with your wife.

[Dale]

Is this black ink? You can reorder black ink.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's right. Black. Oh, you get black inked. You get inked. All right. Yeah. You and your wife sit down and go, I want to show you something. And then just.

[Dale]

Johnny told me about it.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you can tell whatever you want just as long as you do it. I'm fine with that. And you'll be on the dark web before you know you're familiar with blacked.com. that's what makes me laugh. Look at his face. He knows Dale's had a weekend alone before.

[Dale]

It's just the way you said it, your facial expressions.

[John Holmberg]

He worked with Michael for how many years? I mean, come on. He lived it. Yeah, yeah, that's true. All right, go ahead.

[Brett]

The casting director for a reality TV Kristen Moss was being interviewed and she talked about what she had to go through to get the casting. She says we dismiss a lot of people that try out because of STDs.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Brett]

She's basically assuring that you see these reality shows and they. They're exploring each other. We don't let anyone. That's what she said. Well, they're exploring each other sexually. There's going to be STD tests. We have to do that.

[John Holmberg]

And it's a show designed to have multiple people having sex with each other. You can't run the risk of bringing in diseases.

[Brett]

Amount of people that come in to try out, that have.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, sure.

[Brett]

Still go for it.

[John Holmberg]

A little bumpy. Yeah. But if they're not showing, they just have to take a blood test, find out. You'll see. But yeah, that's. That's not like Love Island. And they all have to be clean. They leave clean, too. That's the. That's why they can have multiple shows. After Love island, they went to, you know, Losers island and all that stuff.

[Brett]

Michael Keaton was inducted into the new Pittsburgh Walk of Fame on Monday. They misspelled his name on the plaque. And Michael, they reversed the E and.

[John Holmberg]

The A. Misspell that Mike Eel.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody. Yeah, I was gonna say. I'm. I'm not gonna fight that.

[Dale]

Is that an honor to be in the Pittsburgh?

[John Holmberg]

Mr. Rogers? Andy Warhol, probably some newscasters.

[Brett]

And Terry Brown, Andrew Carnegie.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, that too.

[Brett]

George Benson, Roberto Clemente.

[John Holmberg]

A lot of the sports guys are going to be on that. Joe Green, Franco Harris picture of the. Michael Keaton's from Pittsburgh.

[Dale]

He drove through there one Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, all the gun. Yeah, he's big. You know, he worked at. He worked on Mr. Rogers set.

[Dale]

Oh.

[John Holmberg]

He ran the train for the make believe. He would push it and talk to on the other side of the wall.

[Dale]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Really? Yep.

[Brett]

The upcoming Martin Scorsese documentary docu series. Joe Pesci refused to interview for it or be interviewed for it because he doesn't like talking about the sleazy criminals he played because they're based on people he actually knew.

[John Holmberg]

Oh.

[Brett]

And he goes, if I do that, he's a rat. I'm in trouble.

[John Holmberg]

You don't want to get involved. No talking shut. Keep your mouth.

[Brett]

Got a great story.

[John Holmberg]

All right, Dale, go.

[Dale]

I mean, I don't know how you pull this nonsense out.

[John Holmberg]

Here we go.

[Dale]

Barbie just released a second Stevie Nicks doll.

[John Holmberg]

Who? Barbie. Oh, the Barbie. The Mattel. Okay.

[Dale]

This time, inspired by the COVID of her solo debut album, Belladonna.

[John Holmberg]

You don't remember Stevie Nicks albums?

[Dale]

No, I mean, I remember her.

[John Holmberg]

She's standing in that black dress. I'm guessing that's the white gown. Oh, okay. Okay.

[Dale]

She wears a flowy white dress and tall white boots and comes with a microphone and a black top hat.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, and it's got a bird on it.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Dale]

Unfortunately, the doll was only available for Barbie Club 59 members sold out right away. And at $60 a pop, who's buying.

[John Holmberg]

A Stevie Nicks Barbie?

[Brett]

You hit the back and he goes.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, who's buying this?

[Dale]

But of course, there are a bunch of listings on ebay from resellers. By the way, do you. Did you order from the Kardashians? John the Bush.

[John Holmberg]

The ultimate bush. Yeah, yeah, I've got that. Do you want one?

[Dale]

Are they comfortable?

[John Holmberg]

You know what? They're scratchy. Yeah, but they're not bad. That's the album cover. That's right. And people bought the Barbie of Stevie Nicks.

[Dale]

Now I see older than I am.

[John Holmberg]

And that's the second one. 70.

[Brett]

The other one is in the black dress.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I've seen them.

[Dale]

She went to Arcadia High School.

[John Holmberg]

Did she go to Arcadia? I thought that was Linda Carter.

[Dale]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Are you sure?

[Dale]

Both of them did.

[John Holmberg]

Did Steven Hicks go to Arcadia, too? That could have been too far from you.

[Dale]

No, we played against them. She's, I think, five years old.

[John Holmberg]

All right, So I just.

[Dale]

Now I know it's eighth grade.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, she wouldn't have. She would. Probably a gigantic 8th grader. You could have gotten some older. Some older ass time. No, she's 77. Oh. She's a little older.

[Dale]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

She could have been the mother of a kid.

[Dale]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

My God, that's crazy. She's 77 and making Barbies over. Hey, that's pretty good. Good for her. That's impressive. All right. What else on your mind, Dale? It's good.

[Dale]

Everything's good. I think we're gonna win this week.

[John Holmberg]

We'll be happy, go lucky and better win some money. This is yours.

[Dale]

I'll come over with some flowers for your. For your sweet wife on Sunday.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. Are you coming by this weekend?

[Dale]

I got to wear my Baltimore Ravens.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, they're not playing the Ravens. The Bears are. You're not coming by wearing any Ravens gear to my house.

[Dale]

I gotta show you my new hair.

[John Holmberg]

Are you coming by for the packers game Sunday night? You got to wear the shirt. You got to wear the Steelers gear.

[Dale]

They all smell, John.

[John Holmberg]

No, they don't. They're after you. Take it off jerseys. Oh, he wears it and then it smells. Then I wash it. Of course I wash my jersey thought. But I was like, man.

[Dale]

I mean, he picks up eight of those dudes on the way.

[John Holmberg]

Look, here's the thing. School and Thomas and Dale thinks that the two Mexicans are hired help. It's always making them get drinks for him and stuff. Anyway, well, good. We'll see you Sunday there.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

With the blower. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that is true. There's sometimes they do have the blower on their back. They forget it's 10:09. Larry, I'm out at EOS tonight. Oh, that's right. Where you going? From 5 to 7, EOS Fitness in Queen Creek on Signal Butte and Queen Creek Road. All right, well, n side. Easy peasy. Get out there and see Brett tonight. Larry's coming up next. We'll talk to you guys tomorrow right here in the morning sickness, Arizona's most.

[Dale]

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[John Holmberg]

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