10-23-25 - FULL SHOW - THURSDAY - Holmbergs Morning Sickness 98 KUPD

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness – Arizona | 98KUPD | Episode: 10-23-25 – FULL SHOW – THURSDAY

Date: October 23, 2025
Host: John Holmberg (with Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo, and guest Dale Hellestrae)
Theme: Wide-Ranging Morning Radio with a Focus on Sports, Gambling, and Irreverent Arizona Laughs

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, the Holmberg’s Morning Sickness crew dives into the aftermath of the Phoenix Suns' season opener, the joys and perils of being a sports fan in Arizona, and the breaking NBA gambling scandal with mob ties. The team ranges from personal stories and debates about literacy in America to the rise of social media influencers and issues in modern sports. Not afraid to push boundaries or ruffle a few feathers, this installment is both a snapshot of Arizona’s unique sports culture and a no-holds-barred roundtable on the absurdities of life.

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Key Segment Breakdowns & Timestamps

1. Morning Banter & Sports Recap

[00:48–05:41]

• John shares the experience of attending the Phoenix Suns' season opener, highlighting the crowd’s mood swings.
  • “Less than an hour ago, this was the worst team in the league, and now their expectations are all over.” – John [01:24]
• Humorous detours about friends with small feet and their implications.
• Celebration of “sports equinox” – all the big leagues in action at once: “The best time to be a sports fan, to be a man.” – John [04:36]

2. Lightning Strikes & Forgetting Your Loved Ones

[05:45–13:24]

• The bizarre tale of Danny Devine, who was struck by lightning twice; discussion of news sensationalism and the trauma of “meeting your family again.”
  • “How about that assignment news guy? Hey, go over to that guy who's been struck twice. Find out what he thinks of lightning strikes. He's against it.” – John [08:28]
• Tangent: Head injuries, amnesia, and the loyalty of spouses; musings on whether people would stick with partners who mentally “reset.”
  • “I have a staunch requirement for people I spend a lot of time with. They have to be able to read.” – John [14:44]

3. Literacy in America & Social Commentary

[16:31–23:57]

• The gang is stunned by statistics about illiteracy: “32 to 45 million adults in America are functionally illiterate.” – Scott Taylor [17:51]
• Jokes about coworkers in promotions and low reading skills in radio.
  • “I work with 33 of them.” – John, on the radio industry [16:39]

4. Payola, Plugola, & Influencer Culture

[29:04–41:11]

• John rails against the rise of social media influencers demanding freebies from businesses, noting the parallels to old-school radio payola scandals.
  • “How come influencers can do it, and we’re still stuck in the dark ages?” – John [33:33]
• Story of a local influencer who tried to extort a bakery for free goods, trashed them online when refused, and the ripple effect of viral negativity.
  • “It’s the mob. You come in, you give us some free food... or we burn your place down online.” – John [39:44]

5. NBA Gambling Scandal & Mob Involvement

[43:04–68:33]

• Breaking news: Multiple NBA figures including Portland’s head coach and players arrested in a widespread illegal gambling/mob ring (“Operation Nothing But Net”).
  • Vigorous debate on the implications for pro sports, legal betting apps, and the integrity of games.
  • “You arrest a head coach in pro sports, this is a big deal.” – John [48:50]
  • “The FBI knows who’s going to rat.” – John [49:24]
• Mob stereotypes playfully invoked; Italian, Jewish, Russian, and Yakuza “families” debated.
  • “Why does it always have to be us? Can’t the Nips be involved too?” – Brady, satirically [68:04]
• Memorable Quote: “Sports are better when the mob’s involved. Vegas is better when the mob’s involved. Pizza...damn it. All good work.” – John [75:07]

6. Sports Betting, Lawsuits, and Retribution

[56:37–60:36]

• The crew ponders if fans could sue sports betting apps if games are found rigged.
  • “If the sports [games] themselves are not [legitimate], we’re going to start demanding that these apps give us money back.” – John [56:37]

7. Absurd Arizona Life – Mayonnaise, Accidents, & Penis Enlargement in a Corolla

[84:18–95:44]

• Wild sidebars about grilled cheese expertise, condiment hatred, and a Florida man with a “No Drugs” sign busted for drug dealing.
• Bizarre news story: A guy in Thailand performing penis enlargements in the back of a Corolla, leading to a group debate on how far they'd go for extra inches.
  • “If somebody told you right now they could add three inches to your dick and it was free...would you do it?” – John [92:51]

8. Radio Games, Picks, and More Sports

[121:32–152:48]

• Recap of the show’s running sports betting parlay – heated ribbing as losing picks cost the crew a shot at $2,400.
  • “Don’t cash out. That’s a character flaw.” – John [143:08]
• Dale Hellestrae joins for picks, stories of running into the mob and defense of the “old days,” when you couldn’t trust boxing or anyone with a pinky ring.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Literacy stats shock: “45 million people can’t read past a fifth grade level.” – Scott [18:00]
• On influencer grift: “It’s the mob... If you don’t give me stuff, I’m gonna burn your place down [online].” – John [39:44]
• On sports and the mob: “If you’re influential, you have to earn that. You can’t just show up and be an influencer.” – John [37:41]
• Regarding the gambling scandal: "They don't arrest the head of the snake first. They get guys that they absolutely have dead to rights." – John [49:24]
• On cash-out in betting: “If you make the bet and you say, ‘Let’s go, pay me a million dollars,’ you don’t take the cash out.” – John [143:49]
• Takedown on mayonnaise: “Mayonnaise is disgusting by itself and I've had that... If I could get rid of one condiment it would be mayonnaise.” – John [85:52]

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Tone & Language

• Tone: Unfiltered, irreverent, sarcastic, and frequently self-deprecating. The crew balances sharp local insight and rapid-fire wit with bro humor and edge.
• Language: Casual, peppered with adult jokes, Arizona references, and intentional exaggeration for comedic effect.

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Highlights & Listener Takeaways

• Arizona as Sports Central: October is the best time to be a sports fan; all leagues ramp up.
• NBA Gambling/Mob Scandal: The big news of the day; 31 people arrested, including high-profile names. Implications are massive for the NBA, sports betting, and even sportsbook legal accountability.
• The New Era of Influence: Social media “influencers” wield power akin to 1950s radio DJs, extorting businesses for free goods under threat of public shaming.
• Absurdity is Comfort: The show never stays “serious” for long—insult comics riffing on themselves, each other, and life in Arizona.
• Authentic Arizona: Inside jokes about small feet, reading levels, and the unique quirks of Phoenix culture.
• Lessons in Trust: Whether it’s trusting a doctor in a Corolla or picking your spouse after amnesia, the answer is “be skeptical.”
• Mob Nostalgia: Sports and Vegas were “better”—at least more interesting—when somebody was fixing the odds.

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Essential Timestamps

| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------|----------------| | Sports Equinox & Suns Recap | 00:48–05:41 | | Lightning Strikes & Amnesia | 05:45–13:24 | | America’s Reading Problem | 16:31–23:57 | | Influencers & Old Payola Scandals | 29:04–41:11 | | Mob and NBA Gambling Scandal | 43:04–68:33 | | Sports Betting Lawsuits Debate | 56:37–60:36 | | Penis Enlargement in a Corolla | 92:51–95:44 | | Mob Stories & Betting Parlay Drama | 121:32–152:48 |

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Final Thoughts

Whether you’re a diehard Arizona sports geek, a morning radio junkie, or just love outrageous, boldly honest banter, this episode captures exactly why Holmberg’s Morning Sickness is an institution. It’s rowdy, raw, and rarely afraid—addressing real headlines and ridiculous hypotheticals with the same gusto. If you follow sports, bet on games, or just want to hear what’s broken (or beautiful) about America, this episode delivers.

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Transcript

[Scott Taylor]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Brett]

What the hell is wrong with you?

[John Holmberg]

P.D. good morning, everybody.

[Brett]

Hello there.

[John Holmberg]

Welcome. I got beef sticks stuck in my throat. Boy, I've said that before.

[Scott Taylor]

Welcome to Katie kb.

[John Holmberg]

What a way to start the morning. Just, yeah, don't eat beef sticks and then start to talk. Hi there, everybody. My name.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Love doing that.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I don't mind it. That's the fun of the fun of a fun night before and waking up with a beef stick in your mouth. It's fantastic. There's Brady, there's Brett, there's Toledo. This is the morning sickness. How are you? Good. That's nice. Good to hear it. Fresh off of the sun's opener last night. Went down there and very funny. Entire night because the team couldn't be worse for the first half of the game. And everybody rumbling this team might win 20 games, might win, might win 15 or 20, 25 games tops. Maybe end of the game, third quarter, really big comeback. Then I'm winning the thing. They were down 20 in the second quarter. They had a great game, ended up being a lot of fun. And at the end, everybody was like, you know, I mean, if they could surprise people, this might be like a, you know, I get 45, 50 wins out of them. Like, wait a second. Like, less than an hour ago, this was the worst team in the league, and now their expectations are all over the ma. But I'll tell you what, get to know Dylan Brooks. I said it before that guy. We, the Suns have a guy that's going to piss off everyone in basketball. He's already chipping with people last night and he's going to get in fights, but they won't be like his fault. Fights. There'll be those weird. I love players like that. There's nothing better in sports.

[Dale Hellestrae]

So I saw Channel 12's review. The sports guy there, and he was like, this new lineup is. It's good.

[John Holmberg]

They're gonna run. They're not gonna make any run. They're more fun. They're gonna be together this year. All right, whatever. No, they don't. If that's what he was saying, that guy should be fired. He. It's one game. He needs to calm the f down there. It's a game, and they didn't have everybody. So whoever that was should be immediately dismissed from their position. Yeah. It was fun, though, to watch everybody swinging back and forth, though, because nobody knows. It's just an absolute unknown of what they're gonna be and who they. So good times, though. And the crowd was fun. All the regulars were there again. Down in the rah rah room. Had everybody going back. I got. I looked at my friend, Dr. Brink, and I realized that I have. I have one friend in my life who has. Who's a grown man who has size nine feet.

[Brett]

I had.

[John Holmberg]

I had no idea that that was even possible, to be a grown man with size 9ft.

[Scott Taylor]

Scott Taylor have that.

[John Holmberg]

Scott Taylor has small feet. And you know what? The Brinks are smaller.

[Brady]

Whoa.

[John Holmberg]

They're about the same height. And nurse said. I looked down at his shoes. I'm like, I like your shoes. Where are the rest of them? And he goes, yeah, I got size nines. Like, nines. You're a grown man, and not like a small grown man, like a normal grown man. Brady, you've got tens at least nine and a half.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And tens.

[John Holmberg]

All right, now you're closing in on it, but you're a shorter man. He's a normal sized person. Very strange. By eight, huh?

[Dale Hellestrae]

It's a nine and a half by eight.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. There's. The other thing is that. Yeah. I would never look down at your feet and go, those are small. Be like. Those are. Those are oddly shaped.

[Brett]

What.

[John Holmberg]

What do they call a foot on a elephant? They have that roundness to the bottom and the. You can see the nails in the front. He's got very wide feet. But then his. His lady friend quickly remedied the me noticing that he has small feet and pointed out that early on in their relationship, she went to touch his thigh down by his knee and felt something. And he's like, you can't do that. I'm like, all right. Well, the myth is not true.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Good cover.

[John Holmberg]

Imagine a Great. That would be. Some guys listening are like, yeah, what'? That. You actually. You have to warn people not to touch your leg. Don't do that. You're gonna hit something you don't want to. It's down by my knee, and you're gonna want to. You're gonna bang into that. None of the blood flow went to my feet to grow them. So, yeah, Dr. Brink, tiny little feet. He doesn't care. And then he and his lady limped out of the rah, rah room with her tiny little feet and her obvious problems from, you know, other things. It was a great night. One armed man was there. Oh, it was awesome. Doug Hopkins. We had the. And it was fun, but who knows what the Suns will be? But it's another thing getting started that you can stare at and have your time sucked out of your life. You got World Series. You got all the. All the major sports are going right now. That's. It's the best time to be a sports fan, to be a man. You got the World Series starting Friday. You got hockey back. You got basketball back. Officially, football is in full swing. This is a. This is it. This is that weird kind of almost, you know, annual eclipse. They're like, oh, you got to see this thing. It's phenomenal. Mercury. Basketball is over, so there's nothing getting in the way. And you don't have to pander to anybody and act like you care about something that's terrible. Still have that Rising thing, so you occasionally get a soccer fan that'll pop their head out of the thing.

[Brett]

Well, don't forget about.

[John Holmberg]

No, it's already forgotten. You have to be reminded that it's a league every once in a while before people start saying, I'm going to a Rising game. Tough ticket to sell. Tough ticket. We'll see. So I was. I had fun. It was a good time. And that team will be more fun, but they're making a run. Stop it. We'll see if it turns out he's right. He didn't know. It turns out he's wrong. He didn't know. This is a. This is a giant question. The team might as well be dressed like the Riddler. Just have question marks all over him because no one knows what's going to happen with this squad. It's fun. Then I came home last night, and I watched the news for a second, and. And there was a dude on there. Listen to this. This is the story. And talk about someone I want to hang out with. Like, I. I have a friend who Was in a plane crash, like a real one, and survived. Not like a. Like a twin prop, like a real. Was Northwest Airlines.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Billy, right?

[John Holmberg]

Billy, yeah, my buddy Billy. And so I'm like, if I ever fly, I want Billy on the plane. Because the odds of Billy going down again, astronomical. So he's the safest guy in the world to fly with. This guy Sundays, talking about two people who had survived lightning strikes up at Mount Lemmon down in Tucson.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I saw that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I got hit just hiking and lightning took him down. They always go. And I didn't know this. They said, we go to our expert on this. His name is Danny Devine. He was celebrating his grandson's birthday in 2007 when a storm brewed. He went outside, walked across the driveway to the garage. So the last thing I remember is reaching up and grabbing hold of the garage door. And then I woke up in the hospital. No recollection of what happened. Didn't know who my wife was. Didn't know anybody. And it took three years for his memory to come back. It took a couple years for him to be able to read again, write, walk. And then in 2023, got struck again. Wow. You imagine. It's not like, you know, a medical anomaly.

[Brett]

You're out.

[John Holmberg]

How does you stay inside during lightning? Like, he got over it. 21 years had passed. He's like, meh. I think that's right. Was it 2002 or 7 lemon lightning.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Strike to that couple?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that was. Well, there's always the rumor. I'm not sure that's actually true. That might be a. One of those tales. But they say that people got struck by lightning on Mount Lemon. And while they were making love and. And they. And they glued together somehow. To me, that seems a little. Seems a little far fetched. Yeah. It was 2007 to 2023. So in those 16 years, from the first lightning strike to the second, he probably was a little trepidatious about going out when the clouds were. You know, you look at, you'd see clouds and kind of go, I'm gonna stay inside. Or he got completely cocky, like, get struck by lightning again.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You.

[John Holmberg]

It's not happening. And it did. He got hit again. It's. And started all over. And so they. The poor bastard. When people get struck by lightning, the news goes, danny, come on outside. We want to talk to you about your worst day ever. Yeah, come outside, baby. No, Danny, we had two people out there in Lemon got hit. We need to talk to you about it. Don't want to talk about it. Never want to talk about it.

[Brett]

Turn the lights off.

[John Holmberg]

You can't live in darkness forever. Danny. Come outside. The news is here. We want to talk to you about the worst things that have ever happened to you and remind you that it happened to someone else. Go away. Dude's a good sport. There he was on the news, and what do you expect him to say? It's not so bad, you know, Three years again to read. I couldn't remember anybody in my family. It was like meeting them again. Anything else you want to know about that? So I can go back into my hole and cry as you remind me of this horrible thing? How about that assignment news guy? Hey, go over to that guy who's been struck twice. Find out what he thinks of lightning strikes. He's against him. I'm gonna go ahead. I'll speak for him as his spokesman. Danny's pretty. Got a pat stance on lightning. Pretty awful. He's against it. No need to bother him anymore. Let's leave that guy alone. What do you say?

[Dale Hellestrae]

I wonder, meeting the family again, you know, for a second time.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

That all sudden he's. He liked a relative that he hated the first time.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I wonder if it. Or.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Or the other way.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Do you think if you were struck by lightning, you'd come back and like. Like, you're the thing that would. The thing that would strike me is when you first start dating someone, it's totally different, you know?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Sure.

[John Holmberg]

Everybody's kind of amorous. There's twinkles in your eyes and everything else.

[Dale Hellestrae]

The honeymoon period.

[John Holmberg]

Right. So when you get struck by lightning and come back, your wife doesn't have to, like, she doesn't feel that whole start over thing. I wonder if you'd be, like, attracted to her anymore. I think it's going to be a good ploy for a lot of dudes to get out of relationships is just come home, light your head on fire for like five seconds, put some charcoal on your face and come home and just go. Or, you know, have somebody drop you off. Is this where I live? And just play dumb for a little bit. And then, you know, try to see if your wife would step up her game or what her ploy would be if you got struck by lightning. Because I wonder if over time, you'd be like, this is a good opportunity for me to get out of here.

[Scott Taylor]

Some guys, would they go through all of that?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I think. I think they'd go stand out there with golf clubs in the air during a storm just to see if you know you do it. I don't know. That would work because she would have to go back to being like a new girlfriend because to you that's what she is. And if she's putting in, you know, the sweatpants and T shirt bare minimum and you're like, this is my wife, I just met her yesterday. This is the energy she puts towards this thing. This is done. Lightning strikes. If you want to find a silver lining on that cloud. That gotcha might be a reset button. Once you learn to read, walk and do all that stuff again, you don't have to hang out with all those people. And then you just go, sorry, struck by. It's an excuse for the rest. I've been struck by lightning. I don't remember you. And that's just a good way to never have that person call you again. You can start deleting folks from your phone. That's what they should talk to that guy about when they go to his house. Who'd you get rid of? Oh my God, my brother in law. I still pretend I don't know who he is. It's like that's one. There's like one thing in my brain that never came back. I'd call everybody like that. I didn't like, hey, Timmy, what's up? My name's Jeff. Geez, Timmy, since the lightning strike, I don't remember you at all. And then he'd just leave you alone. It'd be great. It would be fantastic. You go back and you could start, you know, you're like you said you could, you could like people that you didn't like before. I wonder if that would happen.

[Scott Taylor]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, I don't think so. I think that would be consistent.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It wasn't lightning. But my uncle who had that head trauma.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. He got hit in a car. A car wreck.

[Brett]

Right.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Personality changed. Things that he liked. I mean it was just like the opposite of what he was before.

[John Holmberg]

But didn't he come back a little bit special?

[Dale Hellestrae]

He started out basically as a six year old kid.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And he stuck with his wife, left.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Over, you know, about two or three year period. Moved up about a decade.

[John Holmberg]

So he was like a teenage boy. He was.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And then he got to the college.

[John Holmberg]

Level when he never have graduated. Yeah, yeah. He just stayed frat boy.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Your college guy that. Let's not drive.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You don't want him driving again. Just like getting struck by light and you don't want him behind the wheel again. Look what he did the first time. But his wife Stayed. They stayed together?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

No kidding. You think she was still satisfying this the boy?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Well, I think it went through a pretty good swing when he was the teen and college guy, but not when.

[John Holmberg]

He was looking for action when he was a second grader where she's still like, I got to get some of that.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Well, she went through a period where it's like, you're grounded. I mean, he would hide the car keys. He would do stuff like a kid would do to prank his paid.

[John Holmberg]

Because out of guilt, women stayed.

[Dale Hellestrae]

They'd been together for 36 years.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, so what? That's that Catholic guilt? That is exactly what that is. Because if Matthiah Megan turned into six year olds, it's time to go. He's out. I would pay for your care, but I ain't sticking around for that crap. No way. No way.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You would have.

[John Holmberg]

You think Why?

[Dale Hellestrae]

I don't know. 500 million reasons why.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, because that dude was really rich. That's different. Yeah, I get it now. I forgot about that. He was. He had a lot of. He had a ton of money.

[Scott Taylor]

Oh, well then, yeah, all right, well, that changes everything.

[John Holmberg]

So she stuck around and probably, you know, got power of attorney and all the money, and so it's all hers in the end. That's probably true. Okay. Money changes everything though. But just your average, Your average wife getting a head knock. I think you got a 90 day money back guarantee on that for you. Like, I. It's time for me to go. I can't. I'm not sticking around for this. You'd like to say that you're a better person than that, but I don't think I could tolerate somebody who.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I think if you. If you, you know, talking about it, it's easier to say, yeah, oh, yeah, for sure. I would be out. When you find yourself in that situation.

[John Holmberg]

Mm.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Sometimes things can change.

[John Holmberg]

I don't think so.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I mean, because would you, you know, if all sudden it happened to your pet? Your dog?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Or a cat for someone.

[John Holmberg]

You know, my cats can't read now.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You would stay?

[John Holmberg]

I couldn't tell if they. Look, a cat at age 2 is not that much different than a cat at age 10. A 40 year old woman whole lot different than a 6 year old girl. I have a staunch requirement for people I spend a lot of time with. They have to be able to read. That's huge. That's a big one for me. It's a deal breaker. So I graduated, but I can't read. Oh, wow. We're done here. This this I'm gonna pick. Do you have to, like, you take her to dinner and she has to go, I don't know what this is. Oh, it's the menu.

[Brett]

I know.

[John Holmberg]

All this is just jumble to me.

[Dale Hellestrae]

The whole time she's been telling, you can go ahead and just order for me. Oh, that's cool.

[John Holmberg]

I like people. I like to deal with readers.

[Scott Taylor]

Let's just Dua Lipa.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, if Dua Lipa couldn't read, I'd read to her. Yeah, I'd read her to sleep every night. That's different. There's no.

[Brady]

No, no, no.

[John Holmberg]

But that's how she showed up. If I knew Dua Lipa as a reader and she started getting dumber with every day, I'd be like, well, you can't even read anymore. What? It would be disappointing if she showed up a non reader. It's like, that's just who she is. I'm fine with that. You show up super hot with the inability to read. I'll stay as long as she still.

[Scott Taylor]

Knows how to take that bra off.

[Dale Hellestrae]

What's the problem?

[Scott Taylor]

Read whatever. Don't matter.

[John Holmberg]

That's your skill.

[Scott Taylor]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

That's what you go with, man. You can teach them, pull them drawers to read. That's. I can. No, that's just. That's creepy.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It's easy.

[John Holmberg]

No, you. You can't teach anybody to read.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I mean, that's why it's constant learning.

[John Holmberg]

It's not working. It's very stagnant.

[Brett]

You haven't.

[John Holmberg]

You haven't grown a lot there. Yeah, I don't want to teach people to read. I feel bad, but that's what those professionals go to school for. In a way, my selfishness keeps jobs going. Because if just if just people at home are going to help you read, what do you need to take them all these medical facilities for? Yeah, I'm not doing that. Struck by that.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Into someone that can't read.

[John Holmberg]

Where am I hanging out that people can't?

[Brett]

I don't know.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I mean, I'm just. I was just thinking about that.

[Scott Taylor]

Our promotions department.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that's true. Yeah, probably. I'm in radio. Yep. I have. I work with 33 of them because.

[Dale Hellestrae]

The only one that I can think of that said it publicly was that.

[John Holmberg]

Fantasia, Fantasia Barino, and I just find it. Then she wrote a book.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yep.

[John Holmberg]

Go figure. Yeah. Okay. Read. She said it out loud on tv. I'm illiterate and I can't read. Like, not at all. No. I don't know how you can't read like that is being able to speak.

[Dale Hellestrae]

As well or know the language. It's just weird that you can't read.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you'd think that you would have.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Learned the words on paper.

[John Holmberg]

I guess it seems harder to do than being able to read. Like you. You got to make a concerted effort to not be able to read. And again, I'm talking about people. If there's a dude out there just driving to work with pie eyes right now going, oh, boy, they're talking about me. I can't read like you can.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Because what would the number be right now in. In America of people who can't read?

[Scott Taylor]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I don't know. But I'm not hanging out in places where folks are like, I'm not much of a reader. I'm not either. No, I mean, like, I can't do it. It's like climbing mountains to me. I can't do it. Yeah, I have a. I mean, I understand.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You maybe have been saying a word for years and you've never seen it on paper.

[Scott Taylor]

32 to 45 million adults in America are functionally illiterate.

[John Holmberg]

Functionally illiterate meaning they can't, cannot read.

[Scott Taylor]

Or comprehend beyond a fifth grade level.

[John Holmberg]

Jesus Christ. 40 million.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah.

[Scott Taylor]

That many people in radio.

[John Holmberg]

I was gonna say our industry is huge. Well, on that note, let's get the word out there for you guys to put into the promo code. It's wrist. That starts with a W. Good luck.

[Scott Taylor]

Slash your wrists if you can't read.

[John Holmberg]

Good luck. Yeah, it's what you should open up if you can't spell or read. Risk. 45 million people can't read past a fifth grade level.

[Scott Taylor]

2 to 45.

[John Holmberg]

There are only 350 million people here, so.

[Scott Taylor]

Well, you got to think of Apache Junction.

[John Holmberg]

The whole city can't read Mississippi.

[Scott Taylor]

Well, look, we were just talking about the teachers yesterday.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, well, they're not teaching anybody. Right?

[Scott Taylor]

Or so. I mean, the numbers are going up.

[John Holmberg]

That is true. That is not. The arrow is not pointing down on the literacy issue. 45 million. Anyway, wrist is the code word today. If you want to go over there and tap that app. Good luck to all you fifth grade. The fifth graders can figure that out. I've never. I've never speak to text.

[Scott Taylor]

Now you can do that.

[John Holmberg]

Don't think I've ever met anybody who can't read. I've met dumb people and that's dumb. But I don't know anybody who can't read.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Fifth grade level is pretty good reading. I just watched Ruby, grow up.

[John Holmberg]

That was a sad statement you just made. That's a low bar you're setting, my friend.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Figures you're reading most stuff at fifth grade.

[John Holmberg]

Most newspapers were written at a sixth grade level because they just. For those people over there, you know that Brett was talking about fifth grade. You can. You can pull it together, but you're not functionally pulling it off. You're not, you know, look at watch. You think that that's pretty. Watch a fifth grader write down something they still don't have. The. Your you are, the three yours. The, you know, all the contractions and things like that that words present. They're not. They're not putting it together. So I would imagine there's a lot of. You're pretty stupid in fifth grade. And if you are an adult who's about as smart as a. Are you smarter than a fifth grader was a show. And they put. They put some of the most brilliant fifth graders out there and still pretty basic stuff. Fifth grade. Yeah. You get chucked in the head. I'm starting to wonder. I mean, I would. I don't know how much different it would be outside of the reading and comprehension if I was suddenly just a. A teen boy again. I'm pretty sure my brain is still there. I don't know that I'm that much different than most of them. I just don't know when to use 67 or say the word no cap.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And is the language going to get worse or getting worse with. Now text and.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, sure. Then you gotta learn. We're hammering a lot of words. Didn't even think of that. You gotta text again. You gotta learn to do that. I watched the thing online of people. They were asking a bunch of young, like, younger just going into college people, you know, just. You want to do a spelling bee for 100 bucks? And he'd go, are you sure? And he talked to somebody and they'd be like, spell this. And it was like contusion. And the guy goes, man, he goes, C O, N2. And he did the number. And he's like, wait a minute, what? And he said, c o n 2s. And he's like, why are you saying 2? He's. That's. You put a 2 there. And he's like, no, no, no. Spell it. He goes, I am. And I'm like, oh, my God. That's what we're doing. That's. The future's gonna have numbers. And everybody's spelling out license plates.

[Brett]

Holmberg's morning sickness, Holberg's morning sickness radiate.

[John Holmberg]

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[Brett]

Holmberg's morning sickness.

[Scott Taylor]

No fries with.

[John Holmberg]

Well, good luck with that. Fries has an apostrophe or it doesn't. You got to know when to use it. What? Yeah, it's good luck for that. 40 million people can't read well and I've run into none of them. So that's a success for me. I don't. If you can't read and I've met you, great job. Because I didn't know. I would have assumed it, I guess. I assume most people can read and that that's adults.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Right. Because it would make sense.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I mean they're not. Right. Yeah. They're not going to count as adults. Yeah. They wouldn't say no. 3 year olds at a 5th grade level. Of course he's not. He's got hope though. But. Yeah, that's crazy. Anyway. I don't know if I could do it.

[Dale Hellestrae]

So they had that population.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I don't know that I'd want someone around me.

[Dale Hellestrae]

The kids and adults.

[John Holmberg]

Did you happen to. You probably never ask these questions, but if your aunt and uncle were like, what in there? Like, did she become his mother after he bonked his head? Probably like more so than women love being caretakers. So she probably like, absolutely. The news was bad at first and she's like, this is going to be great. The attention I'm going to get for this and everybody's going to think I'm an angel. She's going to be the greatest.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And then I wonder to what kind of level of like, okay, it's back now.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. When did it get to normal? Yeah. When do you first dabble in the marital act again? I think that just goes away. And I think when you raise your husband, you know, I don't think you can have Sexual feelings for someone you taught to read. I'm pretty sure that might be what I'm talking about. That might have just talked me into my whole stance. I don't think I could ever be sexually involved with someone again.

[Dale Hellestrae]

So.

[John Holmberg]

She's 86. Who I taught to read. She is currently 86.

[Dale Hellestrae]

She's 86. And went to the Ohio State football game with her and hung out with her twice. It's my mom's sister.

[Brett]

Sure.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And we were kind of giving her a hard time because she's now this guy at the home that. Where she's at.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Likes him. So they're hanging out a lot.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, she's got a boyfriend.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Okay. You got a boyfriend? Yeah, well, no, we are friends. Are you sure about that?

[John Holmberg]

Feed him Gerbers too.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I'm like, I think there's a little more to that, Luann. And so she's like, no, I'm done with that physical stuff. And I said, louann, when you asked her. Yeah. When were you done with that?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And it was more of a selfish question to see if you're on pace. Yeah, yeah. Are we done at my house?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Because my sister was in the cartoon. Like when we were done with that, she goes, you know what? For me, I would guess probably a year ago.

[John Holmberg]

Wow. So when her husband got thwacked, retarded, she stayed on. Oh, she did leave.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Well, he.

[Brett]

He died.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, okay. All right.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But he, you know, he passed away 20 plus years. Oh.

[John Holmberg]

So she got married and started remarrying. Oh, I bet she was a wildcat with that guy. He could read. And then he had all that money. Jesus. She said she's a black widow and now she's got a new guy she's aiming at 86 years old and she's.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Got her a new out. We were calling him the suitor.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Yeah. The suitor is going for her hand and she's all juiced up again, but she doesn't want to use it. Nope.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Done with that. Been there, done that.

[John Holmberg]

That's my. That's my.

[Dale Hellestrae]

That's refreshing. My sister's like, oh, I'm so behind.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. She's still.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I'm at where you're at, Luanne.

[John Holmberg]

And then they laugh like, yeah. So, jv, your brother in law is not getting.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I said, I'm sorry, jv.

[John Holmberg]

He's done. He doesn't get laid anymore. Your sister's pulled it off the table.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Really? That's terrible. People never ask the question to old people. When did you stop having physical relations you're not asking out of curiosity for them. You're seeing, is it normal what I'm going through right now? Anybody that asks that question to me, I hear them saying, I haven't had sex in ages. When does that stop? Is this normal or just make me feel okay about my crappy life? Because if you ever ask someone, I would ask her because her husband got knocked in the melon. I'm like, can you have sex with somebody you've taught to read? And I say, other than Britney Zamora, no, I don't think that's a thing. Britney Zamora teaches people to read and they have sex with. I don't think that's a possibility in my life.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You know the good thing, for the most part, the features, I mean, he was the same guy looking. They put. It wasn't like disfigured from the head injury or.

[John Holmberg]

He looked the same. He looked the same, but he was gone, really gone at first.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And then it was wild watching him develop through the years because then he.

[John Holmberg]

Come back and like you'd want to play like video games.

[Dale Hellestrae]

He thought he had a lot in common with Michael Jordan.

[Brett]

Did he?

[Dale Hellestrae]

So he went out and bought a full. He saw the COVID of GQ magazine and Michael was on it.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And Michael had this full length black leather jacket. He went out, got that.

[John Holmberg]

He got himself a duster.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Wanted to get his ear pierced. Here's this. Senior partner of a law firm for years now. I've got.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And they probably still let him in the building. As if to say, you're allowed in.

[Brady]

He.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But he wasn't in office for about two years. And then they just like. There was no reason.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he couldn't Practice law says 40 million adults can't read. And one of them does the news on your show every day, Jonathan. Yes, we know, but I think even Brady's reading skills are above that of a fifth grade.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah, seventh, seventh, eighth grade.

[John Holmberg]

And it's laughable. No offense, but it is true that sometimes how you read gets so convoluted. Now imagine you're functional. You actually, I would never say can't read. You struggle with speaking and reading at the same time. Sometimes. Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And I think the problem. I think there's a prep issue, you know, if you spent more time of what you're going to present. Well, it's only, you know, that's always a learning curve.

[John Holmberg]

We've been at it for 25 years. Eventually you're going to figure that out.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And sometimes you just don't.

[John Holmberg]

After. After After a quarter century, you pretty much. You know what, there's going to be a pattern you develop, and yours is that there's no reason to get better at it.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Just never forget the. Wing it.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, wing it. Yeah. And. And, you know, just make things up. That's always act like you got to be better at bull if you're not going to put in the work. That's just basically how it is. Yeah. Bottom line is, stop banging on that dude's door every time somebody on Mount Lemmon gets hit by lightning. He's been through enough. There's been a shooting downtown. Let's go over to the Kennedy House and see what they think about us, I guess. Jackie, are you home?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Go away.

[John Holmberg]

No, somebody's head got blown off. We want to. We want your opinion. It's bad. Thank you. Miss One acid. Leave people alone who've been through that. No. There's a building collapsed on a guy. Didn't someone down the street survive? 9, 11. Let's go over there. The building fell down. You want to talk about it? 9, 11. Survivor.

[Dale Hellestrae]

No.

[John Holmberg]

What do you think of buildings falling down on people? Bad. Thank you. Great work, news team. We talked to someone who had a building almost fall on them, and they think it's bad. Back to you, Ian, with the weather. It's terrible. It's just. They're just. They're just vultures. And that dude doing that report again for Dirty Dining. Jason Barry, who I think there's got to be. He's not long for this world if he keeps it up. Went up the zips on Warner flies in the drain. Like, will you stop it? Somebody's eventually gonna start saying, you're killing my business. And it's not gonna. There's a lady also, that she's fighting back because this is. You know what's crazy in radio. It's illegal to tell a business, hey, give me some stuff and I'll talk about you on the air. Right? That has been a. That has been a plugola, they call it. It's been a thing in this business since it started back in the day when. When radio DJs were on, they would hear from a record company and a song that might not be that good, they'd go to a guy like, if it was me today or us and we're on, and that was still the way they did it. They'd bring us records and go, you want a trip to cancun? Spin this 10 or 12 times for us. Give us some spins. And it was very illegal. And it turned into take your crew out to dinner. Yeah, yeah. Give me free meals at your restaurant, and I'll mention you on the air a lot. And it became this thing. It's like, well, that's just not fair for people who actually pay for advertising. You're getting free stuff, which is almost like compensation. It's bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. And I always thought when it was explained to me it was mainly for tax purposes because you can get a bunch of free things done that. That would be considered like, you know, when we give prizes away of a certain value, you got to fill out tax paper. But if some, like, if, you know, the diamond guys who just recoded my back basketball court.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You know, I'm giving you some free mentions. So you guys come over and do this and pay for anything. You don't pay for anything. That's illegal and it's wrong because you're getting thousands of dollars of work for free. Which I always thought was a tax thing. This influencer. This is how it works now, though. And I don't know how it hasn't been cracked down on. Some lady called some bakery here in town, and her name's, like, Glamorama, and she's an influence, and she called. She goes, give me a bunch of free bakery goods, and I'll come in and give you a positive review. And they're like, we don't really want to do that. We're not in that game. But you guys are more than welcome to come down and if you want to give us a review, that'd be great. Whatever. They're really nice to her. And Glamorama went down there and they're like, turn the music down. I'm going to do a video. And they gave her espresso.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah, they shut it down.

[John Holmberg]

Like, they gave her a nice. Gave her a nice visit, you know, and said, oh, here's some free espresso shots. Thanks for coming. You know, you can do that as an owner. It's like, here, this one's on the house. But you can't just say, I want free shirts from Dickson for the rest of my life. I'll talk to, you know, you can't do it. But so then, because she didn't get any free things, she went on and did a video just basically saying, this place is fake and they're garbage, and rammed them into the. It's like 8 million views, and for no reason at all, they get all these views on it. And the poor shop owner's like, what did we do wrong, that's incredibly illegal. But nobody's saying anything. And I didn't realize influencers did that. I didn't realize they called ahead. I thought you had to kind of know them.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It's a combination of one. The ones that are really not so big, the startup influencers are the ones that will contact the restaurant. Hey, sure, I've got a following of so much, but a lot of restaurants.

[Scott Taylor]

Yeah, Portnoy's not doing that. He just shows up.

[John Holmberg]

But I'd lose my job.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Contact him a ton of restaurants right now before they open up. They're like, oh, sure, let's reach these influencers.

[John Holmberg]

And I'll tell you right now, at this point, I bet you Dave's got a price. Like if Porkopolis said, hey, Dave Portnoy, you want to come to my business? He's like, yeah, it's going to cost you a million dollars.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I don't even think he does that. He'll just.

[John Holmberg]

I almost bet you he has to in order to make. Because otherwise the free stuff's going to. Somebody's going to start looking at. It's. I'd lose my job tomorrow if I tried that. If I called any business in this city and say, hey, we got a pretty successful. We tease you about the Morning Cup. I got a pretty successful show over there. I'll give you a bunch of free mentions if you just, you know, and I'll give you a positive review and I'll talk about it. She's got to keep me in free food for a long time. I'm out.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Right?

[John Holmberg]

Done. And I don't know how come that works for them. And what I'm saying is I'm jealous. Like, this seems like an awesome thing and these guys are getting away with it. How come? Influencers can do it. And we still are stuck in the dark ages of that.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And there's so many that are right in between that that you don't know. You know, you don't follow enough. Like, a lot of people that own the businesses and they're like, I'm an influencer. Okay?

[John Holmberg]

You look at their numbers. If they've got like three or 400,000 people and they're mostly local, you're gonna be like, this is great. If I ran a business and some guy came in and said, I've got 500,000 followers and I'm only Phoenix centric. I talk about Phoenix all the time. They get 500,000 followers. That's great for me. That's awesome.

[Dale Hellestrae]

A lot.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. So I'M gonna go ahead and give you some stuff. And then you keep pumping out to those people at how great I am. That used to be incredibly illegal. It's payola. It's plug ola. It's all of it. And I don't know how that's happening, but I'm very envious of it. I never thought of that. I've been. I've been beaten back by radio for so many years to say how wrong it is. I do think it's Rifterish, but I. Terrible.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But the revenue comes from not necessarily that restaurant inviting him or bar inviting out because they have so many followers now.

[Scott Taylor]

They're gonna Instagram and stuff.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. But if you're not. If you're asking for free things for a service and they're giving you that.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You'Re not at that level where you're making revenue.

[John Holmberg]

That's pay.

[Brett]

It is.

[Scott Taylor]

But they're not technically, quote unquote, on the radio. They're not a business.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, it's true.

[Scott Taylor]

They're an individual.

[John Holmberg]

Right, Right. But it's a gray area. But the IRS is the confusing thing to me because you are receiving goods and services and they're huge on that. That's a big deal. Everybody thinks it's just money exchange. You get a bunch of stuff from a business that's.

[Dale Hellestrae]

That's pay.

[John Holmberg]

It's just a different type of pay.

[Scott Taylor]

Someday, I mean, there'll probably be something that the IRS has to do with that. Because, I mean, like, we're talking about it now with these AI songs that are getting created.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's true.

[Scott Taylor]

Getting paid on that.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that's what I wanted to do with this. JL Patisserie is the place that that influencer bashed. And I say screw the influencer and go over there to jails and try to. To remedy that.

[Scott Taylor]

Where is it?

[John Holmberg]

You know what?

[Scott Taylor]

I don't know.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It's kind of. You know, it just reminds me of that lady that. What was her name? Amy, back in the day.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. But she did that on tv. Yeah. That was all.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And it's, you know, Yelp. Originally, someone would go out of the way and just bash a place because they just didn't like the attitude of a person.

[John Holmberg]

She didn't get that. She went on Gordon Ramsay and became an insane human being.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And it was the best thing she ever did for a business for a minute. And then it turned out maybe she's really that way and that her business was inevitably going to fail for screaming at customers.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Customers and it went the other way, Right.

[John Holmberg]

More people. If you're. If you're. If you're yelling at the people going in to eat at your place, and you're screaming and yelling at people or causing a stir, eventually you're going out of business. But I just. Yeah, it's just. Yeah, it's gross. Just you keep doing that stuff, and I just. I find that gross, though. I think that, hey, I'm important. You make me important. I'll give it, but I'll do it. You know, I'm not against it, but I guess that's kind of a. That's a thing people do. Call ahead. I could never do that. I was raised different to call ahead and go, why don't you give me the product you do, and then I'll do what I can to help you out instead of just saying, I've got money in my pocket, I'll make the exchange. I'll buy your food or go over and say, yeah, I'm gonna give you a positive review. And if they choose at that point to say, we're gonna give you gifts, that's different. But I could never call and say, give me some stuff, and I'll come in and I'll take, you know, I'll take you to the next level. I just. It's weird.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Portnoy go. And he buys because he can also give a review. Not a good review.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And that's why he leaves it that way. He's like, look, this is my right. Well, Portnoy doesn't all you want right now. Has he made a couple of places, big money because he got, you know, a good rating. Absolutely.

[John Holmberg]

That Trevor's place.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yep.

[John Holmberg]

Is only in existence, I think, because Portnoy gave him so much, it took.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It to the next level.

[John Holmberg]

And, you know, I don't understand. You know, I don't understand that either. It's like. Like, I guess that you eat cheese pizza and you take a bite of it. I don't really think that you've done much, but it's. It's a gimmick. It's a good gimmick.

[Scott Taylor]

It's the same with all these influencers.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah.

[Scott Taylor]

Doesn't.

[John Holmberg]

Weird.

[Scott Taylor]

Who cares?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Well, I understand that. Like, if you've got. If you're influential, like the meaning of the words lost. Like, if you're influential, it's like, oh, you have to earn that. You can't just show up and be an influencer. I can't not have heard of you and have you do I know I mean, it's different world.

[Scott Taylor]

People buy into it.

[John Holmberg]

I know. And that's the other thing is that that one little number that says 331k followers, you're like, oh, this guy knows what he's doing. Doesn't mean. Doesn't mean anything. It's very strange. But to J.L. patisserie, and I don't know where it is. Did you find it? J.L. patisserie. I feel bad for you that, you know, just because you didn't play the game. The guy came in and it's mob. It's basically the mob. You come in, you give us some free food. Yeah. And then they say, well, we're not going to do that. We're not going to play your game. And then he jabs them. It sucks. Yeah. I don't even know if I see where it is on the story. There we go.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But like, you say that, you know, I mean. Yeah. She's got a chunk of people that follow her, obviously.

[John Holmberg]

Who? The Glamorama.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I guess so.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And I. When I read Glamorama, I think, Trance. I think for some reason that's probably a drag queen. But I don't know. It's weird. Anyway, those poor people. Maybe. Maybe their patisserie stinks. I don't know.

[Scott Taylor]

Bakery.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I just don't understand. French bakery. Yeah, it's a French bakery on Shea. Oh, okay.

[Scott Taylor]

Like 74, 73rd. So it's right where 42ish.

[John Holmberg]

It's like right where Amy's Bakery. The old. It might even be the same building. Let me find where that place is cursed. That lady got famous because Gordon Ramsay went. What are you doing? You can't yell at the punters.

[Scott Taylor]

Same neighborhood, but it's a little close.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. You are acting like a junkie. Get out of here. Gordon, you invited me. And they go back and forth, yelling. I'm like. And then I even went down there. ABC restaurant. I went out there to see her. This is the poor lady just trying to make her business. Making some French breads.

[Scott Taylor]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And something called Glamorama came in there and said, if you don't give me stuff, I'm gonna. I'm gonna burn your place down.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I just.

[John Holmberg]

It's the mob.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Picked up it on the Instagram. The Glamorama as a review. I see her.

[John Holmberg]

Is it? Yeah. Are you going. You followed the Glamorama?

[Dale Hellestrae]

No, I was. I just basically put Glamorama in.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Instagram. And it pulls up. I think that's the girl that's her. And it has the Tick Tock influencer recently reviewed jl no.

[John Holmberg]

Petisseri. She did well. We're giving them a good one too.

[Scott Taylor]

We should go there.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. You don't do that to people. That's just. That ain't right. And if I'm saying it ain't right, you know how wrong it is. The word is risk this morning in the code. You want to put it in there in the app and find out how you can take a thousand bucks from us? We'll offer it to you. And if you're over in that area on Shea and 74th street and you're thinking about maybe having a croissant, go over there to JL and say, you know what? Glamorama and whoever the hell she is, and I think you guys are trying to make a business work in this city. And there's no reason for some jackass to come in here and make. Make everything bad for you. So. And they could stink, people like. What about Viet Shack? Wasn't Brady doing that? Oh, we know Brady does it. We just have to. We have to work around it. It. He'll come in. The one thing Brady does well is tell everybody. Viet Check doesn't give me anything. Okay, great. They'll keep it right there.

[Scott Taylor]

We paid for our food and we went in there that day.

[Brett]

Right?

[John Holmberg]

Quan would have it. No other way.

[Brady]

Who cares?

[John Holmberg]

And also, I would never tell you about Viet Check giving me free things up there on Warner and Elliot or where's it at? Elliot and Priest.

[Scott Taylor]

And.

[John Holmberg]

I would never tell you. I would never falsely promote Viet Shack. Vietnamese food without the war.

[Scott Taylor]

That's a good. Catch my eye.

[John Holmberg]

That looks pretty good. Yeah. No more war.

[Brett]

Just eat.

[Scott Taylor]

Call Tong. He's gotta get some shirts made with that.

[John Holmberg]

Hi, Tom. You associate Vietnam with war? Terrible. Associated with delicious dumpling. And me and Brady. I call bready.

[Brett]

All here.

[John Holmberg]

Too much sodium, Tom. Can't do it anyway. Yeah, no. There's times when you're like, oh, that was great, or something. I'll have a moment where I'm like, I'm not even getting paid for this. These guys were awesome. But I got. You got to be super careful not to get a bunch of free things from people. It's. That's just bad. Bad juju. Especially in this world. Can't do it. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? Five eight five nine. Eight hundred. That's the number. You tell us, we scream it. It's 98 KUPD. Wagah.

[Brett]

Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.

[John Holmberg]

You thought that was funny? You were laughing like a hyena when he said it.

[Brett]

What the hell is wrong with you?

[John Holmberg]

Thank you very much. Miles to nowhere. Off we go on this glorious Thursday morning already. Thursday, get rid of the 6am word. Somebody pointed out said you were making fun of people that can't read. He said, have you paid attention to the game you're playing for this word contest? Just one syllable. Pretty easy. Yeah, he's right. I guess we always kind of knew that. 40 million of you can't read 7 o' clock words coming up. And it's a toughie because it's got seven letters.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Oh, we're screwed.

[John Holmberg]

Still only one syllable though. And that's mainly just to keep the dummies from like wrist was a hard one because people kept thinking I was saying risk and has a W in it. And it doesn't sound like it should. That was a test right there. By the way, I'm following quite closely now as my phone is exploding with what's going on here. Brett, your people, they're back.

[Scott Taylor]

We didn't do nothing.

[John Holmberg]

You did it.

[Brady]

We got back involved in the sports industry.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Here we are.

[John Holmberg]

Look at us.

[Brady]

Sorry about that. NBA guys.

[John Holmberg]

NBA guys are getting arrested like crazy this morning. There's a raid on an illegal gambling ring that just got the Portland Trailblazers. Head coach Chauncey Billups just got charged. He's gonna get bounced. The guy who plays, he was a coach for Cleveland named Damon Jones. Arrested a player from Miami, Terry Rozier arrested. They waited for basketball to get started. Got the spotlight on him. Espn, everybody's paying attention. And bam. A mob related gambling ring. Not related to any of the handheld stuff. Not FanDuel, not any of the legit ones. These dudes were the old fashioned one. Brad used to be proud. The old fashioned way. Sports used to get fixed back when heavyweight champions were Italians. When we knew they were doing it and we couldn't stop it. I don't know how they did it again, but they got into actual players. They got a head coach. I don't know what kind of money's getting thrown around, but for a head coach of an NBA team to go, yeah, I'll get involved in your illegal ring. There had to be some serious cash going because Chauncey Billups makes a lot of money up in Portland. So for him to say, I'll risk that there's something huge behind this is gonna get big.

[Brady]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Scott Taylor]

I Don't think so.

[Brady]

A couple of guys making a friendly wager on. I don't know, what do they call that? The handball. With the baskets and the. I don't even. Brett, you and I. Yeah.

[Scott Taylor]

I don't know what they're talking about.

[Brady]

We don't pay much attention to the African culture. So I don't understand the NBA. Why would I get involved in something I just don't know anything about? But, you know, that's for them. We have our own stuff, like boxing in the 50s when we were dominant. I'm just trying to get a nice. Nice cannoli. I don't know why everybody's thinking, I've got. What do I. What do I. What do I gotta watch all that for? I've seen the Wire. I'm not interested in this thing. Make it on my back.

[John Holmberg]

But they did it. Brett, your people are back involved in sports. It's been ages. Please.

[Dale Hellestrae]

So it wasn't like an illegal card.

[John Holmberg]

Game or loads of it. It's just whatever it is, is illegal gambling. But when you've got a guy who's making $18 million a year involved in an illegal gambling thing, that means the money's worth risking. The 18 million.

[Scott Taylor]

I don't know. He's got. He's got his own hellcat. I don't think he needed.

[John Holmberg]

That's my point. You know how he could have a dealership before it's all over? You've got players, current players involved. And I don't know what it is. I don't know if it's a. You know, if it's kind of like.

[Dale Hellestrae]

When the celebrities had those.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, the Molly's Game thing. Yeah. Like, you get illegal gambling games. But I don't know. This is weird. People are like, is this fake? Is this the first AI scam? Is this. I don't know, but it's interesting. So far, so good. If it is fake, it's pretty darn good. And again, I'm thrilled if it's fake because I want these people back in sports. It was better when it was crooked.

[Scott Taylor]

So was Vegas.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, Vegas was run its best ever by you. You people. That's right. You heard me. You people. Whoa.

[Brady]

What are you talking about? We ran a good organization. We had fun for the Family Circus Circus.

[John Holmberg]

We.

[Brady]

Important things for the kids. The video mumbo jumbo and the pac mans. I think they had that. Then you come down and you're having a nice adult beverage and you enjoy the day. May you go watch some basketball? Which may or may not be on the up and up.

[Scott Taylor]

So how'd they catch him?

[John Holmberg]

Did they raid his house? That's the thing, I don't know. They've got some videos of guys actually in cuffs getting walked away. It's a gambling scandal as right now as it is right now. But the funny thing on espn, which is great, somebody screenshot it while Mike Greenberg, who I can't stand on espn, is talking to Shams, the NBA super guy, about how Chauncey Billups has been arrested of gambling investigations. In the bottom right corner of the screen while they're. They can't believe what they're hearing. My God, there's a gambling problem right at the bottom of the screen. It says esp. It's an ad for ESPN Bet. It's their gambling app. It's going to be tough to be indignant and hoity toity over gambling allegations now that everybody's got it in their phone. We're all susceptible to gambling is everywhere. You know, it's all over.

[Brady]

So I don't know what you're talking about. You can't have a friendly car game anymore, bro. What happened?

[Scott Taylor]

You got what's going on in this world.

[Brady]

Go down the hallway and roll some dice with somebody. Suddenly the feds are involved. Cash Patel.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I gotta deal with this guy bringing revenue in.

[Brady]

That was all I was doing was, you know, I was helping the community. I was involved. I was involved in the community. I'm a business.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You're an earner for the community.

[Brady]

Exactly right, Brady. Thank you. You know what? Freaking only for you every time you come into my place. But disagree. You're an influencer, Brady. You influenced me to do things like, you know, hit a treadmill and Jesus Christ, do some things about my life. He influences me to just say, never ever will I be this way.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it's crazy. But yeah, all the news is popping up on this. I don't know what it's going to do and I don't know where we're going with it, but you arrest a head coach in pro sports, this is a big deal.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And if it has is a big deal.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Some guys on the side and this.

[John Holmberg]

Showed up out of nowhere to where? They didn't just go in and go, hey, we're thinking maybe this was happening. They went in and cuffed him up. They arrested a current head coach, current player and a current assistant coach, day one. And I think there are more to come. Well, that's the thing. And you know better than me, this is the FBI knows who's going to rat.

[Scott Taylor]

How would I know?

[John Holmberg]

They're trying to get one. Yeah, they. They know the rats. And there's a guy named Chauncey Billups who has got a lot to lose, and he's carrying the face of the NBA right now with this. He would be the first one to start spilling the beans. They don't arrest the. The head of the snake. First. They get guys that they absolutely have dead to rights, and they say, you're done.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Unless you break this down for us. Chauncey Billups gonna be a rat, and then the mob's gonna be involved in that Chauncey.

[Brady]

But why would I have a deal with a man named Chauncey? If Chauncey talks, I hear that Chauncey has terminal illness. Ah, that would be a shame to watch Chauncey disappear. These other.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I know what Tony Soprano would have to say about that.

[Brady]

Tony Soprano, I don't know. He's a good businessman. He runs business.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Chauncey, the.

[Brady]

Chauncey is probably queer is what Brady's saying. Someone named Chauncey probably takes it in the app, so to speak. Brett, we're back. And we were doing a business. Don't you rat. I'll keep my eyes on. I need you later. That's it.

[John Holmberg]

How about that? I like when the mob's involved Chauncey and Noah. You talk to an Italian and we have one. Yeah, Noah. Noah's one, too. Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to do that scene. Damn it. I would. But tell me, Noah, what do your.

[Brady]

Parents do when you applied for. When you applied for.

[John Holmberg]

For. For Columbia, did you write down African American or Jewish?

[Scott Taylor]

Can you imagine that?

[Brady]

If.

[Dale Hellestrae]

If that was in.

[Scott Taylor]

Can you imagine if that was in Noah's house?

[John Holmberg]

It'd be like, oh, my God, which one was it?

[Scott Taylor]

If it was a Noah's house.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, this is.

[Brady]

No, Sounds like you got a bird up in your radic. What's going on, Noah?

[John Holmberg]

That scene is so dynamically awesome. Yeah. Anyway, this is a big deal. Big deal. And then now everybody's going back and showing clips of Miami's Terry Rosier. They're not even saying that they were shaving points, but they're showing him, like, pass the ball to no one out of bounds, and, like, it obviously starts looking like. Wait a minute, it's wnba. Yeah. Missing, like, rolling the ball one, two, together. Yeah, well, it's what they did to that kid who was here at ASU years ago when he was shaving points. I can't remember his name off Great nickname. Oh, he was great. But, yeah, he was really good. He was the point guard, and he got involved in that point shaving thing. And then you go back and watch the tapes, and you're like, oh, my God. Movie blue chips, which isn't very good. Had its eyes on that. And when Nick Nolte's running the tape, watching his team do it, he's like, oh, no, my guys are shaving points. They're doing it like the spread was seven points, and all they had to do was hold the ball or miss a free throw, and then suddenly they just chuck it to the other team for no reason with 20 seconds. Oh, it was bad, bad, bad. But this is. Yeah, they go after a head coach, you've got something bad going here.

[Scott Taylor]

They should go after the wnba. They pass to nobody. They fall over the court. See, there's something going on over there.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Where the fed's at, not making enough money.

[Brady]

Brett, God damn it, I told you not to rat. We've been making hay over there in the wnba. Nobody pays attention to it. These girls are already terrible. So when they throw the ball in the audience, nobody notices. Of course they throw it in the third row. That's what they do. But if you get one to do it on purpose now and again, I mean, the point spread in the wnba, that's like throwing rabbits out of a hat. It's luck.

[Dale Hellestrae]

The over under of fans catching a ball.

[Brady]

Oh, yeah. No, there's more chance of getting a basketball and a W and B than a foul ball and baseball. And actually give those away.

[Scott Taylor]

We got check if Adam Fanduel.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

How many. How many foul balls have gone into the crowd here in a basketball game?

[Dave]

So reading into that article, there was for the mafia. Rosier had, like, there were more than 30 bets within 40 minutes on him going under on a number of stats. And so there were a bunch of sportsbooks that were like, hold on. Why is all this.

[John Holmberg]

So this isn't back room gambling. This is on the floor.

[Dave]

This looks like it's Right.

[John Holmberg]

And they got a coach.

[Dave]

Well, I don't know about.

[John Holmberg]

Well, they arrest.

[Dave]

Well, I don't know about Billups.

[John Holmberg]

I just read about Rozier, but I'm saying if they're arresting a coach, it's not because he's playing poker in the background. Something's going on.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Give us some more.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, well, beyond that, the money's got to be massive. You get like, Dale and I talk about this all the time. The guys to go after our referees, and they've Done that in the NBA and guys who don't make much but impact it. Long snappers, punters, holders, kickers.

[Dave]

Those are the ones that sale one over the kicker.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I mean, the kickers are starting to get paid, but a long snapper is usually league minimum. Pretty good number. I think it's like 750 a year.

[Dave]

Well, that's what I mean. You can affect a three point game by sailing it over the kicker's head.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. If you're like, hey, if the opportunity arises, now's the time. You got a guy in the front row of the crowd that just does the thing to his nose. And Dale Hella stray long snapper knows, I'm getting $3 million if I just dirt one. Am I gonna lose my job? Am I gonna do it all the.

[Dave]

Time and watch all the activity on missing the field?

[John Holmberg]

Exactly. Oh, my gosh. This is crazy. And it. And this is very. To me, this is very cut and dry. Because the FBI would. They actually waited for the season to start to do this.

[Dave]

They've announced that the FBI will have a press conference.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my, oh, my.

[Dave]

Because it's the. It's. A former assistant coach for the Cavaliers was also arrested.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, well, that's. Yeah, they got him. They got rosier. They got. Those are their first three arrests as a player, an assistant and a head coach. You get a head coach involved in this, then, oh, there's some dominoes that are gonna be tumbling. Cause once you know, Brett knows again. Ask Brett. Ask in Italian.

[Scott Taylor]

What?

[John Holmberg]

You get one head coach, you've asked 10. You don't get lucky and hit the first head coach and have him sign on.

[Brady]

What's this guy talking about, Brett? Why does he do this to you?

[Scott Taylor]

That's fake news.

[Brady]

I agree. Why does he. What if this is some sort of bias, bigotry towards an Italian people? That he would attack you in such a way.

[Scott Taylor]

It's racially motivated.

[Brady]

I think so too. Your skin is very olive and pure right now, by the way. You look fantastic using a product. Or is that just natural ooze? That's very nice.

[John Holmberg]

They ask. I don't know how many coaches you have to get to to get one. Unless. Yeah, exactly. Unless they have something on billups for something else. And that's how it was with Michael Jordan and all that other stuff. It's like, we'll take care of your family if you don't start doing what we need you to do. And I'm not sure he played ball. The rim. This is crazy. All right, go Ahead. Keep your eyes on that. Oh, seven o'. Clock. Word is scratch. Scratch. Put that in your promo code for seven o'. Clock. Maybe 1000 bucks that away too. Money just flying all over the place.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Was making some scratch.

[John Holmberg]

Oh yeah, yeah. To use it in a sentence, Chauncey. But Chauncey Billups is going to owe the IRS and the feds some scratch. Rats Scratch. And some one of those guys gonna rat. Somebody's already ratted to get them in there. So. Oh, this is gonna Brett. You people make sports better.

[Scott Taylor]

Thank you. I mean, no, we didn't have nothing left.

[John Holmberg]

And let's just for fun speculate the ramifications of sports gambling in our hands. You know, you now have Joe Public making bets. And if it turns out some of those games were crooked, Joe Public is going to get lawyers and groups and say this is, you know, a faulty product that promises it's on the up and up. And if the sports themselves are not, we. We're going to start demanding that these, these apps give us money back when it turns out that the game I bet on if you still. Because it keeps. That's the good thing about sports game. It keeps your bets forever. I can go back and see my first bet three years ago and if it turns out it's one of those games with Chauncey Billups and they find out that they and I missed the parlay for like 50 grand because they under over didn't hit.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But do you think it's like the back of a sports ticket where they said they're not responsible on the back.

[John Holmberg]

Of a sports ticket if.

[Dale Hellestrae]

If they haven't done it and someone else powers.

[Scott Taylor]

It's the agreement at the beginning.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Do you agree?

[Scott Taylor]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. There's no agreement possibly be an agreement that says if it turns out the games are suspect due to mob interference or if they're rigged in any sort of way, I'll bet it is not out of there. I'll bet there is. That is why. That is why there's not been sports in Vegas for years is because they couldn't risk having their games not be on the up and up. That's the reason why Roger Goodell burned all the tapes from Tape Gate the day after. He said there's nothing to see here and we'll let us see him. I destroyed them because the mobsters were like, if this game's not on the up and up, I'm not talking about you and me. Joe Public can sue. The mobsters will blow the whole thing up. Because if it Turns out these games weren't legitimate. And the people who weren't involved, they're like, wait a second, Vegas. If they find out that these things were manipulated and they lost a ton of money on that. It wouldn't be the first. There's been plenty of charges against people who have rigged games and get the money back to the gamblers casinos.

[Dale Hellestrae]

There have been.

[John Holmberg]

When that dude got arrested back in the early 2000s for rigging NBA playoff games. A, people were going to get killed. B, the casinos were losing their minds that the mob was going to come in here and say are you guys in on this? Who's doing this?

[Dale Hellestrae]

This?

[John Holmberg]

And they were doing it. And so you get all sorts of.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But people got cash back, taxes got.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, the government got everything back. You make sure that that is on the up and up or it can't happen. The one thing about gambling that has to be if it's not on the up and up, the government will kill it.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But the government. But I'm talking about like individuals.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know. I'm sure, I'm sure if there was a guy. There is. If there's a guy who had like a ticket that said I lost a million dollars on that game. Game, he'd have a legitimate case. To say that you're, you're allowing bets of a fraudulent unchecked thing. It's like a Ponzi scheme. You might not get your money back, but people are going to fight to get it back. Homeburg's morning sickness and you're going to try to get retribution to the people who are right. It's a crime. It's Toledo, Toledo's wife. But I'm Toledo's ex wife. I'm not. Look, why she was swiping money and what she has to do for the rest of her life is somehow pay that back. If they get the guy who did it, the retribution goes back to all. And it would probably be casinos first and everything else. But you find out like that gets going and it. And all these games were rigged. People, people demand their money back. Nobody just goes, oh well.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But I'm saying it just doesn't seem like there's been people getting caught. But I haven't heard anything because it.

[John Holmberg]

Used to be illegal to gamble the money back. It used to be illegal to gamble.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah. So you could.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I'm talking about with your handheld.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Turn it in.

[John Holmberg]

You're like you. You're the one keeping the receipts on me. I've got, I've got the History because of what you guys do. I'm not saying it's gonna happen that way, but I'm saying it's a lot easier for Joe Public to go, hey, I got screwed on this deal. And you said you were running an up and up operation here.

[Scott Taylor]

You can't read this on here.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, I won't read it on the air. But you printed it. Okay, that's enough. I told you, I can read it on the air. It's fine.

[Brady]

Okay, go ahead as this guy. It's okay. All right, so what this Homburg character's telling me is a bunch of these. I call them immigrants playing ball. No different than me and you, Brett.

[Scott Taylor]

I agree.

[Brady]

A bunch of these folks out here playing this, this urban. I don't know what you call it. Basketball. I'm not even familiar with the sportsman.

[Scott Taylor]

I don't. Yeah, I don't.

[Brady]

Somehow or another they get pinched and we get blamed.

[John Holmberg]

I don't understand.

[Brady]

How in the world do you pinch an entire group of people, the hip hop crowd, and we just some noodle people trying to make it work. We getting blamed.

[John Holmberg]

It's unbelievable.

[Brady]

There is no such thing as the mob.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You know that.

[Brady]

And so on. Other. We still get blamed. I mean, I, I went to one of those basketball games. When does the Jackson 5 get off the floor? In the game beginning.

[John Holmberg]

I didn't realize.

[Brady]

I'm unfamiliar is what I'm saying.

[Scott Taylor]

You went to the Suns playing nurse.

[Brady]

I thought like Earth, wind and fire. When are they going to be done throwing this ball back and forth? I want to see some sports. I had no idea. These people get pinched and. Look, Brett, you and I have to take the heat.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, when gambling was illegal, nobody wanted to admit, hey, I lost money on that.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah, because you'd get.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, because you'd get in trouble for like. Well, how much are you gambling?

[Dale Hellestrae]

True.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, so Yahoo. Yeah, Billups was charged in a poker operation tied to the mafia. His involvement reportedly not related to games he coached. All right, well, that's. Yeah, that'll keep that. That'll keep that a little better. But you got players who are in on this very same stand. It's pretty big. That's a big deal. And by the way, because I'm here for the jokes, fun, fun and fun. I can't wait for this thing to erupt. Somebody's rattin the mob comes back again. Talk to an Italian. And Brady, you and I know this. Having sat in a room with Brett now for five and a half years, they will not admit that at one point or another in professional boxing, eight of the 12 belts in boxing were held by Italians. And they said it wasn't rigged. The mob had nothing. And suddenly the mob gets stung on the whole deal. And no Italian has won anything. Like maybe one or two total.

[Scott Taylor]

Two of the best boxers ever.

[John Holmberg]

I know. Rocky Marciano, Rocky balboa, the Rockies. 80 years. Maybe two Italian champions have have shown up. But for about a 12 year span, only Italians won boxing fights. And then the mob got hit. It went away. They had to refocus their efforts because they were making it so obvious.

[Scott Taylor]

A bigger fish to fry.

[Dale Hellestrae]

They went to coaching.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Why should we get beat on getting all these Italian coaches?

[Scott Taylor]

Yeah, you're welcome. Phoenix.

[John Holmberg]

It's right. If it wasn't for the mob, you wouldn't have a basketball team or you'd.

[Scott Taylor]

Be stuck in that. That dump at the Coliseum.

[John Holmberg]

You got a nice place downtown.

[Scott Taylor]

You're welcome.

[John Holmberg]

The mob built Banquet, Ballpark and America West Arena.

[Scott Taylor]

People did not. Colangelo.

[Brady]

Well, you set him straight. Brad.

[John Holmberg]

What's going on over here?

[Scott Taylor]

I don't know what the hell he's doing.

[Brady]

What is that? I said, listen, I don't like what I'm married.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Hard working people.

[Brady]

You know what? I. I didn't know Mr. Holmberg was an Indian. And not the type you got running around here with the white feathers. The other ones that work at Discover Car. Because I see a little red dot on his forehead in this future. That's right. I don't know what to. I don't know what those people. I thought he was a Jew. I thought he was on. I thought he was on the up and up. He took care of our money. You know what I'm saying?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Pretty good with numbers.

[Brady]

Very good with numbers. The nose, the complaining. I thought for sure. Turns out he's nothing more than a.

[John Holmberg]

What is the word?

[Brady]

Fanuk. Is that a thing? Is a Ricky Own.

[John Holmberg]

It's one of them.

[Brady]

It was a fagioli.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It was all of it.

[Brady]

It's all of them. He's all the bad things. You can put the guy around who's veto. Ask Tom Brennaman what he is. He'll come up with like seven or eight words. They're all right. What's that? I'm straight.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Brett.

[Brady]

Rocky Mars. Champion was legitimate.

[Scott Taylor]

Damn right.

[Brady]

Knocked out Joe Lewis.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. That happened. Yep. You see pictures of those two together and you're like, wow. Which one won again? The little Italian one.

[Dale Hellestrae]

No kidding. Phantom punch.

[John Holmberg]

It wasn't Joe Lewis. He knocked out what was that guy's name, the crazy one? Oh, Patterson. Patterson. And then he had Floyd Patterson. Yeah, he had the Jersey. Joe Walcott. That was the lunatic. Yeah. Italian. Italian heavyweights. You had Italian middleweights. You had, you know, Jake lamata. All of them champions. Brilliant. Italians everywhere fight suddenly, and you can't talk an Italian into it that any. Like, never would you have an Italian. I want to go. I want to go to one of your big Italian dentists, get the whole family from Chicago in and sit down and go, guys, you know what? I think the 1950s boxing world was completely rigged and not one ear to.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

It would immediately start like. It would be like a chorus of, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Who invited this guy?

[Dale Hellestrae]

It went away in the Olympics.

[John Holmberg]

All of a sudden, suddenly they can't fight at all. Like, the 60s meant no more. Italians were good at it. Oh, we dominated and we left it behind for somebody else.

[Scott Taylor]

That's right.

[John Holmberg]

Come on. And I don't know if you noticed in boxing, it was a legitimate, beautiful sport. And then, you know, oh, there goes the neighborhood. We're not. We're not hanging out there. I love when the mob's involved in sports.

[Dale Hellestrae]

The last good one was Tony Danza.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, yeah, really, literally. Tony Banta from Taxi was the last great Italian boxer. The 70s could still do things like Rocky and Tony Banta on Taxi. And although they made fun of him for getting knocked out all the time, they still could fool the general public into thinking that that's a legitimate thing. If you did a TV show now about an Italian boxer, people be like, I'm not launching that. That's not a thing. It's far too gone. Anyway, my friend says, what if we learned that deandre Ayton is amazing at basketball but decided to throw basketball games day one? Well, he's been great at that too. This is fascinating. I like this. I like this a lot. Call whoever you call Brett and go, this is great. This is an awesome thing.

[Dale Hellestrae]

If it goes that way. Sounds like it's more like a potentially a Molly's game back.

[John Holmberg]

Well, you got that One of them, but one is definitely they're getting the player for the heat for throwing the games. I mean, they're looking at all of I love mafia stuff. Love it. And see, the FBI said it was the mob and they're busting lots of quote family members. Oh, this is gonna breaking news as it on the fly. I like this a lot, John. How do you know it was the Italians? What if it's the Yakuza?

[Brady]

Exactly.

[John Holmberg]

There you go.

[Brady]

Why does it always have to be us? Can't the Nips be involved too?

[John Holmberg]

Sorry.

[Brady]

I mean Trump's. Trump's talking constantly about the Chinese and the. I don't know which ones are what. But aren't we friendly with them? I think it's the Yakuza too. In our basketball games. It wasn't us, right, Brett?

[Scott Taylor]

That's right.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Thank you.

[John Holmberg]

What if it is the Yakuza? That. That's a. That throws samurai wrench into it. Oh, the Russians, the collusion of their. Oh my God, this guy. Oh, this could be just amazing. But how dumb do you have have to be to get involved at all in sports and backroom poker games with mafia people in Portland? That's hard to do it. Put on the best games I guess the Portland mafia is known for. Anyway. This is amazing. Yeah. And the betting stuff is, man, it's going to be. There's going to be something that comes back from that because if you can go back and prove that you had bet on a game that was unofficial, I mean, I guarantee you right now that if you won on something that was that way, they're going to take the money from you. They'll go back and go, you made a bet on a game that was not. They'll take it from you in a second. Your. Your winnings were ill gotten. And that's going to be even worse if FanDuel finds out. Like you know, because then you'll be like, well, why did you bet the under so heavily?

[Brett]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

I took a chance. We're not. You're not getting that because that wasn't legit. It. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. I like this was the only time ASU basketball was really truly interesting. Wasn't. They were running around over there throwing games and stuff. I keep wanting to say Fat Lever, but he was before. Fat Lever is the greatest, the greatest name in the history of sports. I wanted him to be famous forever, but this guy says, I know you don't like books and I'm kind of with you on that, but I listened to wise guys audiobook and there's a big part about the Boston College point shaving scandal that was completely left out of Goodfellas. Could have gone B.C. players got arrested. Henry and Jimmy got away with it. Chauncey is in big trouble. Yeah. If you get arrested and if Cash Patel is like talking to you about gambling, you're done. They know. They follow the money. Ooh, this is fun.

[Scott Taylor]

I wouldn't want to talk to Cash Patel about the weather? Because there's no reason for Cash Patel to be talking to you.

[John Holmberg]

How you doing? I'm Cash Patel. Your eyes are going everywhere right now. What is going on with your face? Look, sir, I'm here to talk to you about your gambling habits. Oh, Christ. All right, where do I put my hands behind my back, or are you going to hog timing? Oh, this guy comes in, says, oh, yeah, you and Tripp talked about this. I knew you were a mob tard. Oh, no, I'm a mob libtard. Maga tard. Mob tard. I heard you mention Trump in the middle of this. He's not friends with the Chinese libtard. Can't mention his name, people lose their minds. Headache, Smith. Damn it. You know who told me that? Dale Hellestray. Nice job, Dale. Thanks. He'll be in at 9. I'm sure we'll discuss this further. Dale and I have talked about this a ton. Like, and he said he would have done it. You get $3 million offer to throw a playoff game if the opportunity arises. And all you have to do is dirt a snap. Your name lives in infamy, but you've got 3 million bucks where before. And Dale was probably making 3, 400,000, maybe. I'm shooting high on that as the league minimum back when he played. And he's, you know, he's hanging out with Troy and Michael and Emmett. They were good friends, and those dudes are making millions. That's like us dragging, you know, Thriller out with us all the time. It's like, you don't want to hang out with the poorest guy on your team. He's never going to pay for anything. But suddenly Dale has the opportunity to make three or four million bucks, and all he has to do is dirt the ball. Once he said he'd do it. I like gambling.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Two years into it, Dale just bought a yacht.

[John Holmberg]

Well, Dale wouldn't be smart with his name.

[Brett]

I just got all my teeth goldened.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, no, he's got a grill.

[Brett]

It's a hella grill.

[John Holmberg]

Johnny. Johnny, you gotta get your teeth cold. It's 7:22.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I would love to see that.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I would. At least. You know what? Maybe that's what we'll get Dale for Christmas. Christmas. A grill. A Lamar Jackson grill. And then Lamar Jackson be like, see, I'm not the ugliest man in NFL. It's Travis Hunter, Dale and me. What do you got on the big board of musical treats Here we try to figure out what's going on here.

[Scott Taylor]

All right. Wake Up Song brought to you by Action Ride Shop.

[John Holmberg]

Of course.

[Scott Taylor]

I just hung out with Josh a little bit yesterday. They're planning something big next month.

[John Holmberg]

That's right.

[Scott Taylor]

Big, big sale. They're going to be blowing out some bikes for some ridiculously crazy prices. All right, details to follow, but we'll say beginning of November, we'll be hanging out with Josh and the boys over at Action Ride Shop, the new location on power Road and McDowell. They got tons of stuff planned, but right now, if you need a new bike, that's the place to go. You need to rent one. You know? You know, you're not sure you want to drop the cake for a new pivot or new Santa Cruz. Well, try it before you buy. You can go rent.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I would do if I was close to. If I was closer to the store, I'd be renting those all the time.

[Scott Taylor]

Absolutely.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Scott Taylor]

So just actionrideshop.com and don't forget, snow season is coming, so they're going to be starting taking reservations and things like that. So over at the OG location. So you got two locations, Power Road and McDowell, and of course the OG right there at Gilbert Road and Southern. It is Action Ride Shop.

[John Holmberg]

We'll be out there November 8th, right?

[Scott Taylor]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Good. Interesting point here. And this, I just like this for the idea of it being true. If it is or not, I don't care. But it would be fun if it was. Says, do you really think when the refs go to New York to get the call on a disputed play in the red flag in football, they're actually talking to an official at the replay center? No, they're talking to Brett's people to see what's best for the game. Did you watch the Lions and Bucks? I'm a Lions fan and I can admit the Bucks got screwed on a bunch of replays.

[Brady]

The heavy money was on Detroit.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I do like it goes back to New York.

[John Holmberg]

It goes back to New York.

[Scott Taylor]

They call Paulie Walnuts on the phone.

[John Holmberg]

And yeah, basically Dan Campbell's throwing the red challenge flag.

[Brady]

Let's show me to play. What's the spread on this thing? 3rd and 18. This is the first, Don. Looks like that was a legitimate call. I think we're all right, boss.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Turn this one over.

[Brady]

I'm going to go ahead and say this is a pretty good. Don't bother me with these things.

[John Holmberg]

After further review, the ref says, don't bother me with these things. The call stands.

[Dale Hellestrae]

That's where the ref slips up over the past years for giving him the business.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that was it. Him giving him the business. I love that guy. Red. Yeah. This is. This is going to be fun. Nice job for your people. Always make it more interesting. All the movies are better when the mob's involved, you know, Sports are better when the mob's involved. You just don't know. Vegas is better when the mob's involved. Yeah, restaurants, almost always. Pizza. Damn it all. Good work. What do you got up there?

[Brady]

All right.

[Scott Taylor]

On the list. Primus. My name is Mud for Chauncey. Static X Mastodon, Five Finger Death Punch. Foo Fighters Down The Warning. Ghost Rats for Scored Sports Gambling. Keep your mouth shut for Chauncey. And Vol Beat Shotgun Blues for Chauncey.

[John Holmberg]

If he talks too much, man, already the threats are flying.

[Scott Taylor]

Hey, I don't know who said that.

[John Holmberg]

You know, awful lot of warnings for Chauncey from Brett's list.

[Scott Taylor]

I don't mean none.

[John Holmberg]

I'm just saying, keep your mouth shuts. Pretty solid. But I think Rats is the thing we're going to hear about next. And I like that song. So Rats it is. We'll go with Ghost. Rats is solid. Well, we'll keep our eyes on it because this is. The timing's outstanding, by the way. I do know one thing from all of this stuff. If you are currently going through your fanduel or whatever account you use and you see a lot of WNBA bets, you have a gambling problem. If you're betting on the WNBA with any sort of like, well, you know, she scored 14. Like any sort, you have a gambling issue. No one. Even experts in Vegas are like, positive, what's going to happen to one of those things? So the very least, this might save some lives, some families. But don't tell anybody about it. Chauncey, this one's for you. It's Rats, It's Ghost, it's 98K upd. I'll post it.

[Brett]

Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.

[John Holmberg]

You thought that was funny? You were laughing like a hyena when he said it. What the hell is wrong with you? All right, there you go. Thank you very much. Pumpkins. And is the season for the pumpkins. Boy, I'm fascinated by this thing.

[Dale Hellestrae]

The gambling ring.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, it's awesome stuff, man. Love it. Absolutely. The word is, oh, it's over. Seven o' clock is already done. Let's tear that out. Jim Roman right into the trash. Great word. It is gone now. We are looking forward to 8 o'. Clock. We'll get that Later. It is now time for Brady to give you all the news that only Brady knows. We call. Oh, by the way, somebody emailed and said is anybody to look into the Cardinals last three games. If there's a gambling issue in sports again, the only team in history to lose three games in a row having a seven point or more lead in the fourth quarter. They're like, oh, no. Now everything is suspect. But let's just say this. It's the Cardinals. That's probably some pretty legitimate losing they're doing out there. Nobody's betting on them, nobody's fixing. But we do have, you know, if they want.

[Scott Taylor]

I'd say the fix is in.

[John Holmberg]

We've got the quiet Western mafia still living here, you know, floating around. Brett knows better than anybody. No, no, no. How you doing?

[Brady]

My name is Dave Johnson.

[John Holmberg]

I just moved in. There's a lot of that going on. This is my nephew, Chris Terry. Oh, my own. I mean, Gez Louise. There's an awful lot of these Italians running around this city that have to be here. Don't necessarily want to going to Cardinal games going.

[Brady]

I think we can get to that.

[John Holmberg]

Gannon K. Kid. It starts looking fishy now when you start seeing that. Evidently Chauncey not. Yeah, it was. Chauncey Billups, coach of the Blazers, was involved in multiple poker games involving up to 12 mob families. What an idiot. Love it. Love every second of it. Great job, Brett. Your people. It's time for the Brady Report. It's brought to you by our [e-mail].

[Brady]

You want some privacy? You like a little privacy in what you're doing shade?

[John Holmberg]

That's right. You get some privacy for when you're on your computer on your back patio so no feds can shoot through that screen you put up there. All pro Shade. I've talked to Robert. Guarantees the mob can't see what you're doing in your house when you get one of their shades put in.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Shade your poker game.

[Brett]

That's right.

[John Holmberg]

You shade your poker game. Cash Patel would be blind to all your shenanigans if you just put one of those things on your back patio. Put the blind down, play your games. Chauncey Billups won't even show up. He'd just be there. No one will know he was there. Get him behind the shades. It's a beautiful thing if you're up to no good. If you're. You want privacy. If you want to walk around naked on your back patio, they can put that thing in there and make it so you have privacy. They've got the privacy shades. They've got the shade shades that go over the awnings. They can cover your screens and get it all. If the sun's bugging you in any area of your existence, all pro shade can help you. All pro shade.com covering up those mob activities for 20 years plus now. Brady report.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Good Thursday morning to you, Phoenix. Hello, world. Happy national slap your co worker day.

[John Holmberg]

All right, I'll be right back. Hey, what's going on, John? How's your day going?

[Brett]

Why?

[John Holmberg]

Cause I'm supposed to.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It might happen for some workers because it coincides with national Croc day.

[John Holmberg]

The shoes. Yeah, I'd slap anybody in the crochet. You know, our. Our super sales lady, the queen of sales, Susan just announced that she's leaving us. She's gonna finally be done with this business in a little while, so she's gonna fly off. What, her incentive to go downstairs and just start knocking everybody around. She's got nothing to lose. Watch out for Susan's slap of the day, I'd say.

[Scott Taylor]

Oh, man. Moynihan hard. They're gonna have Moynihan.

[John Holmberg]

I heard you were complaining about me. A little bit. Well, I'm retiring, so. Take that, loser.

[Scott Taylor]

And that.

[John Holmberg]

Where's that skinny little Hitler, Scott Taylor?

[Brett]

Take that.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I want to see it.

[John Holmberg]

I'd start pointing people out.

[Scott Taylor]

She'd have to bust into the stall while he's taking a deuce.

[John Holmberg]

All you'd hear is, who's next, Holmberg? I don't know. I heard Jennifer Cartwright call you a bitch once. Oh, really? I like that. We made Susan the craziest person in the world. She's just such a. She's a kind woman. But it is fun. Cause, you know, she's running a gaggle of crazy people, so it's inevitable.

[Scott Taylor]

It's true.

[Dale Hellestrae]

A couple of basis fun facts. Have you ever talked about having a buttload of something?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

A butt is a real unit of measurement.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

108 Imperial gallons, or 130American gallons. It was common and used for the casks of liquids like wine and whiskey. When you'd fill a barrel up, you'd have a bucket buttload of wine.

[John Holmberg]

Hmm.

[Dale Hellestrae]

The placenta that a woman grows during pregnancy is technically an organ. And it's the only organ that's meant to leave the body. Interesting. Never knew that.

[John Holmberg]

And they plop it right out with the organism that's going to ruin their lives for the next 22 to 25 years.

[Dale Hellestrae]

After you play eight years in the major League baseball. You get a gold card that gives you in a guest free admission to any MLB game for the rest of your life.

[John Holmberg]

Like you were having a problem getting tickets if you've played that long anyway. How long do you have to play?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Eight years.

[John Holmberg]

We know a couple guys played baseball for eight years. Never once did they mention their gold card. Free tickets to the games. By the way, a lot of those.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Guys, you know, I. It's interesting. I just thought, I don't know. It's the one sport MLB compared to football and basketball that doesn't seem like the former players. Once they retire, they don't go to too many games after. I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

Doesn't seem like they're hanging out at the game. If they are, they're up in the booth or in a suite with somebody else. But. Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Or employed by the like.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. You played golf with J. Bell? Quite a bit. I've been out with him a couple of times and it's like, yeah, watch here and there. There. Like I guess you get your fill.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Of it and he'll go to his sons that are, you know, trying to make it to the sure league. But other than that, he's not like.

[John Holmberg]

Go to all humping it down to ball games on the regular.

[Dale Hellestrae]

New poll found 37 of adults who plan to dress up for Halloween still haven't picked out a costume.

[John Holmberg]

You better hurry up. Eight days away and night of the Singing Death said, we're gonna have all the costumes. Gonna be great. Big party. Copper Blues, Desert Ridge. Get your tickets now. They're running out. By the way. Surprisingly.

[Dale Hellestrae]

According to another new survey about finding out what America's favorite sandwich is, 61% of Americans say the grilled cheese is their favorite sandwich. But a whopping 75% of people don't feel confident that they're an expert at making a grilled cheese.

[John Holmberg]

Who's confident? They're an expert at. Do you an expert at making a grilled cheese?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Me? Yes.

[John Holmberg]

You think, you think experts, I mean, but expert. You couldn't learn something like you would. You're the teacher, not the top.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Evidently they don't have the confidence of making a good grilled cheese.

[John Holmberg]

It's butter, bread and cheese.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

It's like cereal. It's hard to screw up.

[Dale Hellestrae]

12% swear by Mayo. Yeah. Whites to grill it instead of the butter.

[John Holmberg]

Goddamn whites. I'm with you black people on that one. Chauncey can make it. Chauncey Johnson and I agree on two things. The mob is awesome and mayo is disgusting. And Mayo makes you disgusting. Let me remind you that since mayo has gone on everything and Brady taught me this about two weeks ago, the average weight of the American woman is now 190 pounds or something like it was 170 for women and 199 for men. Or was it? Yeah, it was brutal. That's what it was was mayonnaise. Driven American fat sauce is what it's called and it's ranch dressing. Don't fool yourself. Eat a lot of mayonnaise. Now you're not. You're a mayonnaise. You're not a. You like it, I can tell by.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Your face right now I don't mind. I mean I'd put it on a.

[John Holmberg]

Sandwich but you go out of your way to just slather it on there like you like them. Like. Is a sandwich without mayonnaise not good?

[Dale Hellestrae]

No, I can do it without or with. Or without.

[John Holmberg]

But you prefer.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Mustard mayo combo. I like that.

[John Holmberg]

I would sooner eat your than I would mayonnaise on a sandwich. If you gave me a cup of your manhood and a thing of mayonnaise. Now you, you're damn straight I would. Mayonnaise is disgusting by itself and I've had that.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I know of only one time I've. I have had a grilled cheese. The person made it with the mayo instead of the butter. I really couldn't tell much of it.

[John Holmberg]

And they didn't put much on white people stuff. That's one thing I wildly. I mean there's a few things that white people make me ashamed of, but that's probably top of the list. That then racism, then hillbillary. I think if I could get rid of one condiment it would be mayonnaise. And I don't like relish. I don't like all the. But that's the top of the list because people can sneak it in on you. You can see relish. Sometimes mayonnaise blends in with like you said, with mustard and stuff. The next thing you know you're taking a bite of somebody's.

[Dale Hellestrae]

76 year old man in Florida, John Moss had a sign at the front of his house that said absolutely no drugs allowed on the premises. John was just arrested and hit with multiple charges of drug trafficking after search of his home turned up a ton of drugs on his premises. A literal tonight, 32 ounces of cocaine, 36 grams of oxy, 442 grams of marijuana, 17 grams of.

[Dave]

I always forget that's a ton of gram. I don't know a Lot.

[John Holmberg]

It's a lot for drugs when you start dealing with multiple grams.

[Dave]

I know it was expensive, but do you?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Morphine. Used to be you had meth and 20 grand in cash. That's a ton of drugs and multiple handguns.

[John Holmberg]

John. The only thing worse than mayonnaise is Miracle Whip. Yeah, I wouldn't even touch that. That's fake mayonnaise.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I don't like marijuana.

[John Holmberg]

I don't even know what it is. It's like Fluffer Nutter, man one.

[Scott Taylor]

Grilled cheese is Mexican. Whiteies use the butter on the grilled.

[John Holmberg]

Cheese like human beings. Mayonnaise is.

[Scott Taylor]

Yeah, Mexican. Dude said that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, don't tell white people about it because they love that stuff. I'm practically a crip when it comes to mayonnaise. I am like one of the blackest people you'll ever meet. I can't stand it.

[Dave]

I gotta pull that quote.

[Scott Taylor]

I don't like this in your kitchen.

[John Holmberg]

This is my kitchen.

[Scott Taylor]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. Yep. That my kitchen. Yeah. There's no mayonnaise in it. And that's probably the next thing that's gonna happen I'd be fine with. Gross.

[Dale Hellestrae]

This woman in Bethesda, Maryland is in trouble. She sent her husband an AI generate generated photo of a man on their couch. He was at work. She sent him a photo as a prank. That'd be funny. He thought it was legit.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Called 9118 Cruisers, went over to the house to check out the intruder. She was there and said, oh, how's goofing? Well, she's looking at multiple charges.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that shouldn't be. It's just a joke going sideways. Pay the fine and move on. You're getting multiple charges.

[Dale Hellestrae]

They arrested her. She was released on a ten thousand dollar bond.

[John Holmberg]

She's up to something more than just this. They've come to this house a hundred times. They're tired of her antics. If I did a joke and you overreacted and the cops came, they'd be like, you're going. You're gonna have to fine you for this. I'm like, that's fine. But nobody did anything arrest worthy.

[Scott Taylor]

She's probably got an Instagram page or something and that's.

[John Holmberg]

That's what, she's going for it. Yeah, she was. The cops are tired of her. They had her on five or six things they've let her off on. Screw this bitch. If we have to come to your house one more time for your prank.

[Dale Hellestrae]

We got a guy in Thailand, got busted. They're calling the DODGY doctor. He was performing penis enlargement procedures in the back of his 1990 Toyota Corolla.

[John Holmberg]

Big business in Thailand, by the way.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Pattaya Mullen is the guy's name. He was also known as Chang Ye Modified.

[John Holmberg]

Does that mean dick modifier?

[Dale Hellestrae]

I think so.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, remember that when you're in Thailand next year. Toledo, when you go back to your haunts.

[Dale Hellestrae]

So here's hurts getting in the back seat of the Toyota to get their penis enlargement. There's different procedures that he had how small. He would do everything from inject liquids into the girth.

[John Holmberg]

But look how little they are in the back of a Corolla.

[Dale Hellestrae]

They.

[John Holmberg]

They make a Corolla like. No, it makes it look like a Rolls Royce. The two little tie guys in the back of a Corolla. There's room, there's the operating room and.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Then the waiting room is the front seat.

[Scott Taylor]

Look, I'm not going to any doctor that's driving a Corolla. I mean it's got to be.

[John Holmberg]

Well now hold on. You know, in Thailand. Yeah, that's true.

[Scott Taylor]

It's got to be at least a Supra.

[John Holmberg]

But this, you need a back seat and the Supra's got that tight back seat. But not for that.

[Dave]

They got.

[Scott Taylor]

Yeah, come on.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But here's the thing about it. I don't know if that car is even drivable. It was just.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, it's just being used. But I'm telling you, they are making a Toyota Corolla look like a hotel room.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Boom.

[John Holmberg]

They're so little.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It does look roomy.

[John Holmberg]

And so he just grabs a needle full of dude.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Everything from. Yeah, he would fill them to add girth. He would inject pearls.

[John Holmberg]

What does that mean? Like the actual pearls.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Pearls.

[Scott Taylor]

What got your own built in French tickler.

[John Holmberg]

Apparently you're not reading that right.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Pearls are expensive. I'll show you the pictures of.

[John Holmberg]

To make it bumpy for her pleasure.

[Dale Hellestrae]

A bunch of different. He had a. A collection of pearls.

[John Holmberg]

How about that? So he would put little bubbles. Yeah, it's like a little like a sex toy.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Didn't use any sterilizing equipment.

[John Holmberg]

That's Thailand. What's sterile there?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Blades and new and needles.

[John Holmberg]

Those people of Toledo's been there. Those people are not exactly sticklers for cleanliness.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Pay the fine and let them get back to work. Work. Listen, pay the fine.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Clean your equipment, clean your Corolla.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Keep doing what you're doing.

[Brady]

But I have to ask you to put that in a plastic next time you do A DECA surgery.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I get in trouble. No plastic.

[Brady]

No plastic.

[John Holmberg]

But you can still do in Becca Carrera, preferably Supra for Bretta penis enragement. If somebody told you right now they could add three inches to your dick and it was free.

[Dave]

Free.

[John Holmberg]

But it had to be done in the back of their car, would you do it?

[Scott Taylor]

Absolutely not.

[Dale Hellestrae]

No. My God, no. Jump in the back of this car.

[John Holmberg]

All right. I'm just going to find your threshold.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Kitchen?

[Dale Hellestrae]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Living room?

[Dale Hellestrae]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Rented space.

[Dave]

We're getting warmer.

[John Holmberg]

Where?

[Dale Hellestrae]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Any sort of strip mall. Rented space.

[Dave]

Strip mall.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Any strip mall. Like getting your ear pierced?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, it could be a Claire's at the mall. You can sit down in the chair next to the 12 year getting her ear pierced and get.

[Scott Taylor]

Oh, that's. That's wrong. Don't even.

[John Holmberg]

What are you here for? Get ear pierced. No, no. I want you to add the 3 inches. I heard they do that at Claire's now. Okay.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It's fathers with their sons. It's time for you to grow.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's right. Instead of moms taking their daughters to get their ear pierced, unfortunately, you're a Vesley and you're. I've had the DNA passed on of multiple vessel. Man. Man. We're gonna get you a little larger here. We're going to Claire's.

[Scott Taylor]

Absolutely not.

[John Holmberg]

Grandpa, I don't want to go.

[Brett]

Homeburg's morning sickness.

[John Holmberg]

So you. It would have to be a medical facility, only you're a Johnson in the Johnson family tradition. Johnson, like your grandfather before you. And these little tadgers are. Unexpected. Acceptable. I would do it in the back of a nice car.

[Dale Hellestrae]

No, you wouldn't.

[Scott Taylor]

So what's your threshold?

[John Holmberg]

Like, if that doctor had, like, a Phantom or a Maybach.

[Scott Taylor]

So, like, if Har rolls up in his Tesla, you jumping in the back door, getting your three inches?

[Dale Hellestrae]

No, he'll get his three. Three inches in a Phantom.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, here's the thing. I'd have to see the doctor himself. And I've got. I can make yours bigger. I'm like, yeah, yeah, whatever. In the back of the car. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he whips his out and it's a hog. And he goes. I did it to myself. I'm like, oh, as. I can do this for you right now for free. In the back of the car.

[Dale Hellestrae]

What about in the back of a Hellcat?

[John Holmberg]

Yes, Hellcats are cool. Very cool.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You're guaranteed three inches.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you just get bigger being in it.

[Scott Taylor]

I think that on a Carnival cruise.

[John Holmberg]

Yes.

[Scott Taylor]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

I think I would go.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Sick bay.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I think I would go.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Old Doc comes up, he's got a.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Little side gig going.

[John Holmberg]

Isaac pulls me. I can help you out. You don't need Doc for this. And then he gives me two fingers and they're huge. Yeah, I think I'd go to a rented place if he had a sign. Because, I mean, it's the same thing as going to, like, urgent care. I don't know for sure what's going on in there, but they've rented a spot.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You do it at urgent care if it was a side gig.

[John Holmberg]

Well, but that's my point. My point being all we need for trust in this world is a sign and a spot, a little bit of, you know what's going on in there. But yeah, people can fool you just by saying, I got a sign, got a spot. You assume all the paperwork work's been done to legitimize that the car is obviously like a.

[Dave]

It's better called salt in the back of the nail salon. Or if it's actually.

[John Holmberg]

But once he got his storefront, you're like, oh, he must be legitimate.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I, I'd feel better if it was like, you know, the lice clinics of America, if it had the citizen, larger America sign up.

[John Holmberg]

But we've all gone to like, you know, I did PRP treatment at a place that just said that's what they did. And then when you're talking to folks, they're like, oh, we're not, we're not doctors.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Still not the back of a car, John.

[John Holmberg]

I know, but that's what, that's the mental break. That's what I'm saying. It's no backyard truly. Is no different than the back of a car.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You would say, I, I would do that. But like, if you're.

[John Holmberg]

No, I'm joking around because I'm saying basically your trust factor is. I mean, it's not that much of a. Yeah. It's no difference really from a guy in the back of the car and a guy who rented a space if.

[Dave]

They had the high end equipment. Equipment, but it was in a backyard and you, you wouldn't do it.

[John Holmberg]

You wouldn't do it. But if it was in a rented space, that same equipment looks, Looks legitimate and you're not sure. Have you ever said, all right, I want to see your paperwork dentist. You just assume he's doing this because he's been legitimized.

[Dale Hellestrae]

That's.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And that's why the presentation of that.

[Dave]

You might look at it, make sure. He's not a Michigan grad.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, like my dentist went to Iowa.

[Dave]

Do you know that for sure?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, because he's talked about Iowa football.

[Dave]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

And usually, usually I go to him on a Saturday and we're watching the game in his living room while he's drilling. But you know, mine went to byu. Yeah, well, you got a good Mormon dentist. They have good teeth.

[Scott Taylor]

That's mine too.

[Dave]

I live in Mesa.

[John Holmberg]

Mormon dentist.

[Dave]

Mine's a Buckeye, non Mormon.

[John Holmberg]

You found a Buckeye dentist?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Of course.

[Scott Taylor]

Are you serious?

[John Holmberg]

Of course he did. Does he make your breast smell like too or just him? Oh, it's 8:05. The word for 8:00 clock is track. T R, A C, K. Track. That's what you got to go do for your promo code. At 8 o', clock, track gets involved in that thousand dollar giveaway. Good luck to all of you. Track is the eight o' clock word.

[Dave]

John. I, for one, maybe it's just me. I would jump in the back of a rusted ass Corolla or a dirty alleyway. All I care is give me those three inches.

[John Holmberg]

Goddammit. Yeah. What if you're a micro penis and a guy promises you that for nothing? Nothing. It's discreet, there's no medical paperwork. And you do it and it works.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You probably have a better chance of going, how about this?

[John Holmberg]

Let me ask you this. In our discussion earlier of influencers. Let's say I did it and I go to you and I'm like, look at this thing. It's.

[Dale Hellestrae]

That helps the reference.

[John Holmberg]

And then I'm like, do it in the back of the Corolla.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah.

[Dave]

I mean, like, how did girls do it's.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And I showed you. Like, this dude's got something going on.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Car would be lined.

[John Holmberg]

You would. Yeah, I'm. Because I'm an influence. Influencer. Because my endorsements are authentic. I'm telling you, man, if you want to see it, I've got this Boogie Nights ride now I'm flopping around. Yeah. I, I would have a couple people in my life that could come to me and show me their wings ago.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You'd be pretty specific. You'd say, you know, don't go with these pearls here.

[John Holmberg]

Go with this pearl. Yeah, I would have trial and error with my pearls. I didn't like those pearls that hurt when I pee. I got that one removed. But I don't want needles in my wiener ever.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I don't know, the pearl thing, it's got to be like that. It's like a bubba Penis like the Bubba tea, huh? Those balls a little. Has he had.

[John Holmberg]

You called it a Bubba tea. Bubba Bubba.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Boba is boba.

[John Holmberg]

Bubba's a hillbilly. Boba is the.

[Dave]

This is why we have fifth grade.

[John Holmberg]

Questions about your boba tea. Why is that hard?

[Dale Hellestrae]

There's no.

[John Holmberg]

Like. He's literally physically struggling with Boba Bubba tea.

[Dave]

And now you're gonna look it up.

[Brett]

How you doing?

[Dale Hellestrae]

I got a couple of pretty videos.

[John Holmberg]

Hey, Bubba, your teeth tastes like piss. That's the Bubba. The hell is Bubba? You said Bubba tea. You meant boba tea with the fruits. You're queer. You're drinking my man juice.

[Scott Taylor]

You asked.

[John Holmberg]

That's Bubba tea tea. You order Bubba tea sometimes?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah. From a.

[John Holmberg]

You go up in the drive through.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And say, Bubba Sumu wrestler.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. You never hear the people go, thanks.

[Brady]

For coming to Dad's brothers. Can I help you?

[John Holmberg]

I'll have one Bubba Tea, please.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah, I've never ordered it. Laughing.

[John Holmberg]

Why am I inside?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Throw some Bubba in it.

[John Holmberg]

Little side of Bubba Boba tea. Yeah, you're straight. What are you ordering Boba tea for?

[Scott Taylor]

John? You'll get this done in the back of a Corolla, but won't eat at a food truck.

[John Holmberg]

I was making a point.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Well.

[Dave]

And other people say, you know, your aversion to mayo. You know what's in elote.

[John Holmberg]

I know. That's a big one for me. That's a big one for me. And I know that. But I'm talking about mayo by itself. You can fool me with mayo if I don't know it's there. Yeah. Okay.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It's in a lot of stuff.

[John Holmberg]

But if. Yeah. If mayo is just. Just on a sandwich, I'll throw it out.

[Scott Taylor]

Okay, so you're not eating a ham and cheese with.

[John Holmberg]

No, no, no. If it's just mayo by itself as its own thing, but if it's mixed in there with what's going on with the lotte. I honestly don't know. If you put a sock in a latte, I might just chow down on it. Something about that combination works well like that.

[Dave]

It's like most foods, if you disguise it real well, you'll eat it.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, they. Well, that's the thing, is. The key to it is not knowing. They told me at the. At Hillstone that the thing I like to get has a coconut. Coconut in it. Like, not shavings, but it's got, like, a coconut thing in there. And I'm like, what? And because the guy behind the bar knows me, and he's like, yeah, we. That's got coke. I'm like, you're messing with me. He goes, seriously? And you look in the bottom, and it's got a little like some sort of treatment of coconut where they could drink or food. No, no, it's a salad. It's a Thai jungle noodle salad. They don't call it that anymore because they said it was racist. And I don't even know how it's true. It used to be on about four weeks ago. So good Evil Thai jungle noodle salad. Salad is what it was called. And now it's just like Thai peanut salad. But the sauce they use has coconut in it. But you'd never know. And I'm like, well, at least you don't taste it. So you could remove it and I wouldn't know. But once I knew you didn't order it, started ordering the burger.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

First radio video is another death by bull. You know, I don't know how often they throw these.

[John Holmberg]

Bull parties.

[Dave]

Bull parties, judging by your algorithm.

[John Holmberg]

A lot. A lot. Where they just release a bull at the park.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah. And no, there's no get snagged on the run by.

[John Holmberg]

Well, people are just wandering around near a bull in public. And now here's the snagger. Oh, got him by the ass. That was in his jeans at least. Right? I don't think that caught his ass. Oh, he's out cold, though. This bull hates this guy.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Oh, he got the bulls. Just got him there.

[Dave]

Got him in the arm there.

[John Holmberg]

And the answer to the. Is to throw blankets at the bull. And it worked, kind of.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Then the guy gets hold of the tail still on the guy. He's. He's over his victory.

[John Holmberg]

He's standing over his. He's stomping on him. Oh, they're trying to cover the bull's face with all these blankets. So they just bring blankets to bull parties, wander around, bull picks one of them to hate. Hates it out loud. And the funny thing was, well, the bull was going to kill someone else, and the guy ran in front of the bull's charge. He's actually saving the life of a woman. If you go back and look.

[Dave]

Yeah, I don't know, John. I think he got part of the ass on that one.

[John Holmberg]

Did he got it? Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Big chunk.

[John Holmberg]

Well, I know nothing good happened here. I'm not saying everything was a strike, but the ones that did land. But I can't have empathy for you because you messed with the bull. And we all know that ending.

[Dave]

It looked like a park, but then all of A sudden they've got stands.

[John Holmberg]

That might be be housing in that dump country. Just have rows of seats that you live in.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Next one's the latest AI that got me.

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Had to look at it a couple times.

[John Holmberg]

The pressure cooker while it's under pressure Net AI. But it's from net AI website. Had to look at it four times. We'll watch it again.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I'm drawing the creativity of it.

[John Holmberg]

So when you go to net AI.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I don't even like gatma, but I, I.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. Like a pressure cooker blows up and a German shepherd comes in and stands on his. Stands on the owner. Maybe the worst AI video I've ever seen for no reason at all. Why did you show us this one?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Cuz he got duped.

[John Holmberg]

Cuz he got. No, but I mean, what. Even if it was real.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I just was impressed with the dog and doing what? No, it wasn't because he got. He realized this morning.

[Dave]

He realized this morning.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but you got duped for what was like before you got duped. What did you think was good about this?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Nothing. I didn't.

[John Holmberg]

What am I missing? Good.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I was just kidding on that. But I thought I got duped originally. Yeah, but the one I do like.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know what just happened.

[Dale Hellestrae]

So brush I'll do tomorrow.

[John Holmberg]

No, do it now. Why?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Well, there's. Because we run a series. It's his chiropractor that's working on the.

[John Holmberg]

AI Chiropractor that throws him into the walls. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

That's hilarious.

[John Holmberg]

Are you okay?

[Dale Hellestrae]

Because I had. We had. Did you get duped by that yesterday?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And he basically, the chiropractor is working on a guy like that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Chucks him in the wall and then Chuck's an old lady.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I've seen those where he jumps on their backs and everything. Yeah, I haven't seen those yet. Those are good comic. Those aren't real, by the way. Way. Right. Okay. Just making sure. I Just making sure.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But I don't know, maybe they are.

[John Holmberg]

I don't understand why anybody made the pressure cooker blow.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I know, it's weird.

[John Holmberg]

That's why the thing I was like, Gilbert, Mom. Yeah, that's a dumb one. It's got to be Brett.

[Brett]

What do you got?

[John Holmberg]

It doesn't have to be from Gilbert. Well, I mean, I doubt it. Yeah, I don't think she's. We can't really pinpoint a good guess. The geography, some Halloween stuff. Here we go. It's a kangaroo eating a Halloween decoration. And then the Skeleton talks. Oh, it scares the kangaroo. And the kangaroo hops away.

[Dale Hellestrae]

AI doing a little.

[John Holmberg]

You think? I don't.

[Scott Taylor]

He's just pissed now.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just grumpy because he got. Not only.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Do you like that one better than the pressure cooker.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that one, I think that might have been legitimate kind of fun. All right.

[Scott Taylor]

It's a bunch of Braden and Hayden.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, they've got a shotgun and the old man's go. They're aiming it at each other.

[Brady]

They.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, they've got guns. Each one of them holding a gun on the other. Oh, no. This is not gonna end well. Quit playing with guns. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, he put it up against his throat and he pulled the trigger. Oh, you moron. That's what guns do. Oh, he's done. Why now, Darwin?

[Dave]

That's why.

[John Holmberg]

Why? Yeah, you're right. What the. Oh, my God.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I think we've.

[Scott Taylor]

I think we've seen this, but I'm not sure.

[John Holmberg]

We're going to the gym. We're in a gym. A guy's running towards something. He chomps over a truck. Oh, and he gets his foot stuck in the back of truck and.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Always good to review.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God. Yeah, he. He got it stuck in the back. He tried to jump over the back of a pickup truck and got his foot stuck inside between the spare tire. Broke his leg in half.

[Dave]

That looked like like a dude at his shop, like a mechanic just trying to do that.

[Brett]

Why?

[John Holmberg]

Got a big room. He put his truck in it, some gym equipment, took his shirt off and started running around right here.

[Scott Taylor]

What's going to happen here?

[John Holmberg]

Okay, two naked. Well, two girls in robes in the dark are one's. One's about to take a robe off. The other one is sitting there staring at they. They're mildly attractive, but not head turning.

[Dave]

I think blondie's got a wang.

[John Holmberg]

What happens next?

[Dale Hellestrae]

All right. Yeah, that's what I'm.

[John Holmberg]

You're saying blondie's got a wing flash.

[Dave]

That's a big hand.

[John Holmberg]

A big head, too. Yeah, I like that guy.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It could be double wang flash.

[John Holmberg]

You think we're gonna go two wangs on this?

[Dave]

I'm going at least one wang. I'm going one wang.

[John Holmberg]

This is a one wang. Two woman, one way wang.

[Scott Taylor]

Are you taking double wang there, Brady, or.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you're going double wang. I'm gonna say yeah. Geez. I guess that's probably the best guess. I'm gonna sit with the boys. Overshooting. All right. There's Two naked ladies.

[Dale Hellestrae]

We got two stars.

[Dave]

That's the same woman.

[John Holmberg]

No, they've recently had babies, though. They're staring eye to eye. Oh, now they're. Oh, they're just fist fighting naked. I. You're right, Brett. I would have never guessed this. They going. They're kind of going. It's naked, average girl fist fight. And now they're. Now it's turning into spankings. And. Oh, we. We're going to the ground. Oh, one of them got tossed to the ground.

[Brett]

Oh, God.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, boy. Now we're grabbing them by the crotch. We're pulling the old trump. Oh. Ow. She just bit her boob. The boob bite noise. All right, we're in the middle. She's doing some hand strikes to the face. Oh, she's covering her mouth. And the others. Oh, they just grabbed her boobs as a counter. And now that she's prying her eyes out. Oh, now she's just licking her. Now they're just licking her. Yeah, that's. That was. Yeah, it's an honor. All right. Wow.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Way off.

[John Holmberg]

Didn't. Yeah, we all thought dongs. It turned out it was just going to be a fist fight that turned into a finger party.

[Scott Taylor]

All right, here's a old town on a Saturday afternoon.

[John Holmberg]

Girl in a bikini at a bar, taking her panties off. Everything looks good so far. She's at, like, what used to be the islands.

[Dave]

Looks like dos gringos.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, she's crawling on the bar. She's on all fours on the bar. Nope. Now she's sitting down on the bar, hanging off the edge. No pants. Oh, she's spreading her legs for the camera. And now she's. Yeah, no wang. Everything looks good. Everything's legit.

[Dave]

What's coming out of it.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, she's gonna shoot something out of this. Nope, she's revealed her breasts as well. No, she's peeing said fire out of her.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Away. Oh, fire away.

[Dave]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

She's peeing.

[Dave]

I was actually hoping for fire.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, she. I was, too. I thought he said fire also. Oh, she just peed on him from a distance. Good, good distance on.

[Scott Taylor]

And we'll. We'll end with this one.

[John Holmberg]

All right, There's a lady milking a man into a mason jar that's full. That's Bubba tea is what she's making. And aren't she licking off the edge of the. Now she's putting in her chocolate milk. And now she's just gonna drink. Drinkers. What's the difference between that and just taking it straight from the tap?

[Scott Taylor]

I think it's more load than it is milk.

[John Holmberg]

All right. I suppose drinking loads of distilled milk. A mason jar full. Yes. All right. Yuck. And always remember, a subtle little clue that you're watching an AI video is that you're at net AI. The German shepherd was sweet. I just don't understand why anybody would make that. Try it for real. Blow up a pressure cooker and see if your dog protects you. It's not going to happen. It's going to start licking whatever was in the pressure cooker that's now all over the wall. The word for 8 o' clock is track. Hop on that, put it in a little promo code area and you are ready to go. Maybe win $1,000 right there. We got money and you can take it in the app. It's right there at our app. Good luck to you. Track is the word. There goes your Brady report.

[Brett]

Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.

[John Holmberg]

You thought that was funny? Morning sickness. You were laughing like a hyena when he said it.

[Brett]

What the hell is wrong with you?

[John Holmberg]

Getting closer and closer to that 9 o' clock word. Track the 8 o' clock word. You might have a minute or so to go on. That looks pretty done to me. 9am right around the corner. Then we'll be done for our morning and Fitz will take over at 2 and start handing out these words. Get you a thousand bucks in your pocket. We buy your love. That's what we do. We're not afraid to say it. We care enough to occasionally offer you some money to stick around and that's nice. I can't get enough of this gambling thing. I keep reading more. 31 people already have been arrested this morning. And the incredible thing that the FBI is doing, that includes the NBA and the one thing that they said this thing is, it's absolutely enveloped the NBA and the Mafia, Genovese, politicians. Well, I haven't heard yet, but not yet. But they. Yeah, the thing I was just reading basically said this is what's interesting is.

[Dale Hellestrae]

That, you know, last week that whole thing came out on the Governor Chicago big card player. But he has on the tax report.

[John Holmberg]

Well, that's also based on the idea that politically they're trying to attack each other like crazy. So everything is we hate Pritzker, we hate Trump, we hate this guy, we hate that guy.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But the fact that there could be politicians had, you know, in the big games, we'll see. Poker games.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, these they were funneling through evidently some elaborate computer cheating system to take money from these poker games. It's a lot like there's a lot going on. But the, the word envelops. The NBA is not good for the NBA because that was. Evidently that's a thing. But yeah. 31 people, 11 states, wire fraud, money laundering, extortion. And here's the cool part. It's called Operation Nothing But Net. We have a whole department that sits and thinks this stuff up the way we do. Like band names. And so that's a good band name. We should change it to. That's a good FBI operation name. Operation Grandma Squirter. Like that kind of thing. Same as a band name. But I want, I always want to know what, what I ideas were thrown out that. Now I don't like that. Operation to the Hoop. No, sounds stupid. Kind of dumb.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Alley oop.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, operation. Yeah, stuff like that. But how do they do it? Is it just the first thing that comes to mind or is there like a. An hour long meeting and then they draw out of a hat. It's always clever. I mean we've always. Exactly. But we do that because we're actually promoting an event. Why do you do it for this.

[Scott Taylor]

Operation Hellcat.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's probably Operation NBA Hellcat anyway. Operation Nothing But Net. Yeah. And there's videos of the rosier guy for the Heat faking an injury when he hit the mark of his under. He was like a 15 point under on a game and then he pretended to be hurt and managed to stay at the under. And the betting was huge on that. So they've got numbers on this all day long. It's crazy. I was talking to a guy online, he's like, you think that the sports gambling things would be liable. You're out of your mind. Oh, I know they're going to try and probably will get away with it. But now more than ever, we, as just general citizens, thanks to these gambling apps, have a track record of what we've bet on up and down. And they say it's legal. It's in their words, legal online betting. And if it turns out it's all not right, then it becomes illegal online betting. And we've got got, you know, a history in our phone or on our computer of what we've done to sit back and say, all right, what are we going to do about that retribution? I know it would be a tough fight, but I remember back in the 90s when I worked at Tony Roma's, my. One of my co workers name was Chad and he went to ASU and he's like Hey, I got a bookie. Like, oh, what do we do with him? He's like, I got a bookie. We'll call in college bets. So we would make college bets together and throw cash at him. And we were doing pretty good. And back and forth we go. And the bookie one day goes to Chad's place and puts a gun in his face and says, you're screwing me on this, this, and this. And Chad's like, I don't know what you're talking about. He had the wrong place, the wrong guy. He thought Chad was the best. It was another dude. And Chad came back. And I'm like, all right, here's my bets. And he goes, we're never doing it again. I'm like, why? And he goes, I had a gun in my face last night because some guy said we weren't paying our bets. I'm like, we haven't missed a thing. And I'm like, oh, the wrong dude. And so that. But there was. We couldn't call the cops. You couldn't do anything about it because what we were doing wasn't legal either. Now, with the word legal attached to everything, you know, you know, fanduel is not going to come and put a gun in my head and go, you didn't bet on that Blazers game. You hear? Well, okay, fanduel. But I says in my history that I guy, it's legal. So it screws these online sports books, too. They didn't get behind this. They've been doing it. They've been doing the best they can. Oh, this is going to get hairy. This guy says, has anyone noticed the Kansas City Chiefs haven't covered a spread till last weekend for over a year? That's true. Every game they won last year was like a three points. They barely cover spreads. When you play the Raiders, you're going to accidentally beat them by 30 so that, you know.

[Scott Taylor]

And nobody took that one anywhere.

[John Holmberg]

But still, They've got a 14 point spread coming up this week. Commanders if it lands on 13 or 14. What I don't understand is it was the first game of the year. The other night, Kevin Durant in Houston. I was talking to a guy online on this too, and they had the over under on his points for the game at 23 and a half and he scored 23. 3. How do you know he's with a new team? You don't know what they're going to be doing, how much they're going to use him in the offense. They nailed it. Or do they look at they put the number. Hell yes. If I was a player, I'd be all over ads. I would be. I would be susceptible to that as a player. If I'm like, I'm supposed to get three assists. When I get two, I'm going to make bad passes. You know, I'm not in the game much. I'm one of the bent. Like, if I'm Colin Gillespie of the Suns, I'm like, I'm supposed to have figures.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Even though you're not getting anything out of it, you're just wondering, oh, no, no.

[John Holmberg]

How many people that I would call. Like, someone like you, the way it works and just say, hey, over. Under on assist is four tonight. Good idea to put a lot on the under and leave it at that. I wouldn't have to call you. I just tell you, like right here. Go under. I'm not going over four, I promise. No way I'm gonna pass it to dudes who can't shoot. I'm gonna make bad decisions. I'm gonna drop the ball a lot. I might get sat down today. I'm new. Next thing, we're splitting it. Shohei Ohtani. There's no way Shohei Otani wasn't involved in what was going on.

[Scott Taylor]

That got swept.

[John Holmberg]

That got swept big. Because you got the greatest player in baseball history now sitting there with a couple million dollars. And he got to blame his translator. They shipped that guy out of town.

[Scott Taylor]

I'm sure he's fine.

[John Holmberg]

Shohei knew exactly what was going on, though. Let's not fool ourselves. Crazy. Oh, I love everything.

[Scott Taylor]

I'm sure the translator is just fine.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Oh, he's. He's taken care. Oh, yeah, he's okay. We got the nine o' clock word coming up in just a little bit. Prepare yourself for that. And of course, Dale Hellistrate coming in on this oddly strange sports day. And we'll talk to dale next. It's 98K upd, Arizona's most powerful, powerful radio station. You thought that was funny? You were laughing like a hyena when he said it.

[Brett]

What the hell is wrong with you?

[John Holmberg]

That's a great question. All right, quiet down. Don't be dumb. It is time now for Tiny to come in here and get it all done. It's Dale Hellasre, three time world champion, co host of the main event on the Internet. Promoted. No, he didn't. That's not mine.

[Scott Taylor]

That's not his.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Oh.

[John Holmberg]

Also participant in the John Holmberg sportscast called the Sports Thing with John Holberg.

[Scott Taylor]

Now he's Just a participant. He was permanent guest before.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And now he's a participant.

[Scott Taylor]

Yeah.

[Brett]

I. I was the lead guy.

[Scott Taylor]

You pissed him off.

[Brett]

I was the lead guy until he found out that this thing might be kind of good.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. When I got involved, I said, this thing might be good. I should take it over. And I did. It's a good podcast. I'm enjoying the hell out of it. Yeah. It's got me as the star and host. And then you've got permanent temporary guest Dale Hell along with. That's right.

[Brett]

And John. John says we gotta get a camera.

[John Holmberg]

We were talking about that, the podcast, having cameras involved.

[Brett]

And you need a camera on you like you need a hole.

[John Holmberg]

Don't you start.

[Brett]

Come on.

[John Holmberg]

Cameras turn away from you.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

If you've ever heard a camera scream, it's like a horror movie. And turn it on and point it at Dale. Your camera will turn around the main event.

[Brett]

You can find it on all your podcast things.

[John Holmberg]

That's right.

[Brett]

Podbean and Apple.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. Same with ours.

[Brett]

Yeah. With Steve McCullough.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. That's right.

[Brett]

Are you the captain of the ship of our.

[John Holmberg]

Of our shop?

[Brett]

I see a C on your.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I'm the captain of the Sudbury Blueberry Bulldogs.

[Brett]

Okay. All right. Read my sponsor. We need to sell some stuff.

[John Holmberg]

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[Brett]

Oh, and pickleball.

[John Holmberg]

Well, it's a combo.

[Brett]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

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[Brett]

How do you get a hold of them?

[John Holmberg]

Diamondcoatings AZ.com Dale said it several times.

[Brett]

You just don't know how to sell.

[John Holmberg]

Also, the word is gold. People think I'm saying gold. The nine o' clock word for our app contest is gold, as in I love gold, like the leprechaun.

[Brett]

All right. A gold medal.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that's exactly right. Not the goal is a metal gold medal. Don't go Z O L D is what we're doing. It is a. It's a weird day here. The news broke this morning that. And you had a great question right off the bat, Dale. Beyond all the sun stuff and everything else, a head coach in the NBA was arrested this morning. Yes. For illegal gambling activities. And they said the words the FBI used were it envelops the NBA. That means that either this isn't done or like you said, they're going back in time. How far back do we go? Because we're talking about last year's games, which is why Rosier down in Miami got arrested.

[Brett]

Right, Right.

[John Holmberg]

And Chauncey Billup's not arrested for basketball yet, but he was involved in all sorts of side gambling games with the. How do you say, Genovese.

[Scott Taylor]

Genovese.

[John Holmberg]

Genovese. Rayleigh. No. What?

[Brett]

Well, one of us was involved in the Israeli mob.

[John Holmberg]

Is that it too?

[Brett]

Yeah, the Israeli mob. I think it was Chauncey Billups. The card games were.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. They said there were 12 different families involved. Not all Italian, which is surprising, but like. Yeah, Israeli.

[Brett]

So your.

[John Holmberg]

Your people are my Jew mobs in it. This is incredible. This gets great.

[Brett]

Well, see what I know, what a lot of people don't understand is, and we can get into the whys and questions and all that, but you play these high stakes cards games and all, you know, say you make $100 million. Legend has it Phil Mickelson was in that big, big, big time. Yeah. And how much money he made over his entire career. But you get into trouble with these guys.

[John Holmberg]

Oh.

[Brett]

And all of a sudden they say, well, here's how we can kind of settle this. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You have control of something. Yes.

[Brett]

And. Or you. Seriously, who's gonna. In 45 minutes with Rosier, all of a sudden $15,000 worth of bets are coming in on the unders on his.

[John Holmberg]

And then he gets hurt.

[Brett]

Yes. 10 minutes.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. It's very, very strange that. So nobody saw that.

[Brett]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Or they did and they just have kept it quiet.

[Brett]

Well, I think it raised flag it and then it's like okay, well now we need to start looking into this thing.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And they want to make sure that they're damn sure.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett]

That they're going to get them.

[Dale Hellestrae]

But let's get into avoided looking into it in the past.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I think the NBA has done a great job. I think now that you've got so many people's eyes on gambling lines though it used to be there was a very frowned upon. But ESPN never used to run the over. You know the first time you ever saw over unders on a, on a ticker was the ufl. And I remember watching that going, I know what they're doing here. They're getting like they're acting like this is new but they're going to start putting it on NFL games. They want to make it look normal for anybody who's poked in. ESPN started to put the gambling lines on the scroll. That used to be taboo. That was never mentioned. You'd have Jimmy the Greek pop on. You'd have an expert and he was a little shady with the pinky ring. And let me tell you something, Brett, these teams have been. I got them favored by seven and like oh, gambling. Not allowed to mention gambling lines. No ever. Even on pregame shows. Now it's everywhere. So you and I, I, Joe Schmo watching Brady and I know it now talking on Thursdays when we're doing our picks together. Oh, Brady. It's hard to hear sweet, innocent Brady. 14 and a half down there in KC against the commanders.

[Dale Hellestrae]

You know Dale told me about these hooks.

[John Holmberg]

That's what.

[Brett]

That's what.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Brady started throwing hooks around. I don't know, I got burned on that hook. It was a bad beat. These are people who three years ago didn't have this language. So now that all these people are involved and a lot more people know about Terry Rosier over under than ever before.

[Brett]

But the thing is you look at $14,000 worth of bets came in on his unders within a 45 minute period.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody bets on him ever. Individually.

[Brett]

No. In a nondescript whoever was Heat Pelicans, Hornets. Pelicans game in March and all of a sudden 15, $14,000 come in on Rozier's unders and yes, that's when the.

[John Holmberg]

Computers Start going, something's not right. But again, it comes back to all of us having an app on our phones and knowing these over unders. Knowing, like, again, the. I had a guy email me and say, the Kansas City Chiefs. He said, I'm a fan of the Chiefs. And I've been accusing them of point shaving for the last year and a half. They haven't covered a spread. Like, 90% of the time the Chiefs.

[Brett]

Don'T cover was the first time they.

[John Holmberg]

Covered in a very long time. And it's like, why?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And then. And then everybody who has those moments that say, oh, the Chiefs get the ref's help and this and that, it pushes. And then you don't want to believe it, but why wouldn't it happen? And. But the problem is.

[Dale Hellestrae]

So what's the call this week on the Chiefs?

[John Holmberg]

You've got to get watch the hook is what I'm saying. Get burned by that 14 and that hook will kick your ass. And you know, you got any juice on that and the vid comes back and haunts you forever. But, yeah, it used to be like, I would go to Brett and say, I want to place this bet. And if things went sideways, Brett and I would handle it physically. Or he'd take something from me.

[Brett]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

I couldn't call the police on him. I couldn't get justice on a bad bet or a beat that was sideways, or if the bet turned out, I get beat. But right.

[Brett]

Or if.

[John Holmberg]

Or if I was dealing with some shady people, I had no recourse. Now, the people who have been doing it us might have a little pushback if it turns out this is a big deal and it turns out the NBA bets again. I don't know how. I don't know. I don't even know your feeling on the tapes that Belichick had for three or four years.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Years.

[John Holmberg]

But I knew when it was really bad. When Roger Goodell had a press conference say, I've seen all the tapes. You know, the punishment was just. And I destroyed them.

[Brett]

Couple things on that. Number one, I think that the tapes were a lot more sinister than the flake gate.

[John Holmberg]

And the reason they didn't want it. Oh, much more sinister. But I think they're more sinister than we even know, which is why they were destroyed. Because if. If Brett's family got a hold of that and notice that you've been fixing games from within without them and gamblers took hits on super bowl territory, you're dancing around the wrong.

[Brett]

The only thing that I think you can glean out of those tapes is if you're going to hire a couple people to try and figure out their signals, because I've always said, come watch our practice, but nobody, you know what we're going to run. You don't know when.

[John Holmberg]

And you also don't know their formation, but personnel.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

When you move a guy over to this side, this is the play that goes all the time sometimes onside kick. I will never forget Marshall Falk saying that when he watched the. The onside kick in that Saints Colts game and it was that crucial moment and they brought in three guys who'd never run on the special teams.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And Marshall folks said if you had the tape of that, you'd have known and that that on set kick would have never happened.

[Brett]

Well, tell me this. Should we go back and look at the Steelers cowboys?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you know what? Yeah. You guys might have screwed us on that deal.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And we could have won that game. What you're saying is, what was the spread on that? 12 points. You guys had a heavy spread.

[Dale Hellestrae]

There was a hook in it.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. There's 12 and a half. Did you get hooked on.

[Brett]

Damn it.

[John Holmberg]

Brady got hooked.

[Brett]

Hey, I want to know between you two if you two got in a fight over. Over somebody owns somebody.

[John Holmberg]

Me and Brett.

[Brett]

Yeah. Who wins?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I kill him. I'm a trained assassin. I've seen him fight.

[Brett]

Come on, Brett. Come on.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah, you're fighting. Doesn't do anything against lead.

[John Holmberg]

You don't know if he's gonna pull a gun.

[Scott Taylor]

I see it coming.

[John Holmberg]

See, and that's not a fight. That's a murder.

[Brett]

Fists.

[Scott Taylor]

He'S got training.

[Brett]

But if that nose isn't exploded within.

[John Holmberg]

The second punch, if you can land a first one, then maybe. If you land. If he lands one, then maybe there'll be a second. But, yeah, you're going to need two to explode it. Yeah. No.

[Brett]

So. So the whole gambling thing, what? Just absolutely blows my mind because the first thing I look at is these guys have both Billups and Rozier made over $100 million in their career.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I said earlier this morning.

[Brett]

Over 100 million. What are you.

[John Holmberg]

How much money's involved if you're willing to risk that.

[Brett]

But when you look at the phone and go, oh, Israeli Mobsy. Yeah. Hello.

[John Holmberg]

Come on.

[Brett]

What are you. What are you doing?

[John Holmberg]

Or even somebody whispers. I don't have. Look, I don't have a hundred million dollars, but I'm in a comfortable space.

[Brett]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

And if somebody's like, oh, I'm with The mob. And I want to talk to him like, yeesh, I'm not doing business with him. I'm just gonna stay away from ever. I might buy him lunch, but my wallet's pretty much staying in my pocket most of the time around him. Because I'm like, this is gonna get bad if I start investing in what he asked me to invest in. Why?

[Scott Taylor]

Cause it's Israeli mobs. You keeping your wallet in your pocket?

[John Holmberg]

No, he would keep his wallet. I knew I'd have to pay. No, but if it was Italian or anything, anything that I'm like, this is shady.

[Brett]

I'm not going to lunch with them.

[John Holmberg]

I did. Okay. So once I went to Vegas, a guy. This was the closest I've been to this, right? So guy calls me up through another person who. He heard me do some voice work for the Suns on a schedule release. I did Barkley, Shaq, Kenny, and Ernie. I did the pregame, but they were basically babies, right? But I did their voices, and they overdubbed it. It looked great. We could do it with AI now. It would be so much easier. But back then, it was thing. Guy's friend sends it to this dude and says he's an Internet billionaire. He starts these companies that has all this games. And you see the. Like, the Royal Kingdom game, how much money that has to be making. Because, I mean, the celebrities. I mean, LeBron James. Yeah. Kevin Hart, the cast of Friends, all the people that are up there talking about. It's like this thing's making a fortune. And that's what he did. He used to come up with these Internet games. So he. He gets told about me, and he says, you want to do some voices for it? An associate of his. And I'm like, sure. And he goes, I'm up in Vegas. I'm opening the business. And he said, why don't you come up and we'll talk? And he said, I'll show you around. I'm like, actually, I'm kind of connected in Vegas a little bit. I've got some stuff at the Aria. I can come up. I'll meet you. We'll have lunch, talk about the business. I'll gamble it. I'll go home. He said, okay.

[Brett]

Morning sickness. Hol's morning sickness.

[John Holmberg]

So I get there. This is the craziest thing I've ever been a part of. And it made me so nervous. So I. I meet with my casino hostess. I tell her, and she goes, that's shady. And I'm like, really talked to another guy that said, just beware of him because he starts things and quits them. He, he's got so much money, that'll start something, just abandon it. Next thing you know, you got your. So don't quit your job for this guy. I wasn't going to. He calls me in my room at 10, 10 in the morning, and he says, I know we're supposed to meet at noon, but I'm down in the lobby now. You want to come down? I'm like, all right. So I go downstairs, 11 o', clock, I'm all ready to go. I sit down, plop down with him. And he goes, so what do you, what do you do? What do you do? And I'm like, what do I do? And he was kind of quick and like, almost coked up. He goes, you want to ride? He. I can't remember the cars of Ferrari. And he said, it took Ferrari. If you want to ride that or you want to ride in a Bugatti, I got both. I'll do both. You want to go take a ride? And I'm like, we're good. And I'm getting this odd vibe. He said, here's what we're gonna do. I like the voice work you did. I want you to do it for my games. I'm starting this new gaming day. I want you to do my voice thing. I want to be. I'll have you on call. And he goes, well, let's just do it. Let's just do it the old fashioned way. How much are you? How much do you make? And I'm like, come on, I'm not taking. Goes, you know, let me just get, let me throw a number at you. I'll give it to you. You're on call, okay? And I'm like, all right. And he, he literally said, I'll deliver $250,000 to your house. And I'm like, why, why don't we just do it like, case by case or whatever? And he said, no, no, just do that. And you'll be, you'll be my employee. We'll be covered. And I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing, right? I didn't even know the job yet, and he's already handing me, in our minds, 250,000 cash. Be on call to start off to be on call. And I'm like, what does that mean? He goes, well, I need you to call you up, you do the thing. And I'm like. And even I'm thinking that's excessive. That's an awful lot. I'm really good at this, but I don'. And I'm like, what does it entail? And I got so nervous. And he left. He goes, I'll come back, we'll do dinner. And I'm like, okay. And he left. And I'm sitting there like, I don't want to be in a room with him ever again. I don't even.

[Brett]

I want to be in public spaces.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And if I'm wildly public and also don't want people taking pictures of us sitting down together. It was that dirty and I turned it down. And it could have just because all I thought was, I'm getting in deep with somebody that's.

[Brett]

Yeah, I'm going to owe now. Did you follow how he. How the games went?

[John Holmberg]

Dale. I didn't know the company's name. He came out and said, I want you to do this, this, and this for me. I'm like, well, what is it you're doing? I'm starting this thing over here. I'll show you. We'll go over and we'll take a look at the building. And that's when he started to throw the cars. I'm like, what is the name of what I'm doing, though? Like, what would you do? Oh, you do the voice thing. You know, you're good. You do your thing. And I'm like, I'm literally sitting at the. There's a lobby bar at the Aria and I'm staring at this guy and all my brain's doing is run. Get away from this part. If he gives you 250 thousand dollars, you are going to be under his thumb forever.

[Brett]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Like, he bought you.

[Brett]

Because the next, the, the. The next package is gonna be three dudes in suits.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And a horse head. Or the next one's gonna be like, I gave you $250,000. You do what I tell you to. And I'm like, what do I have to do? Kill Dale Hellis trailer.

[Brett]

God damn it.

[John Holmberg]

All right, I'll do it.

[Brett]

That's easy.

[John Holmberg]

That's simple.

[Brett]

That's easy.

[John Holmberg]

Take him golfing out of week upon just a little push in the back and he's done.

[Brett]

Leaving the sad.

[John Holmberg]

But it was this weird moment where I'm like, if I was desperate, I'd have absolutely said whatever you need me to do.

[Brett]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

But luckily I'm in a spot where, like, that is wildly tempting, but if I don't get any more information from you, you're buying me and I don't know for what.

[Brett]

Right. And being on what is on call.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly. And what is on call with voice work?

[Brett]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Like, this wasn't a. I can't do.

[Brett]

It in Arizona and send it up to you. Do I have to come to Vegas? Do I.

[John Holmberg]

No details. He was. He was buying me on the. It was the weirdest thing you to call us.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Netanyahu.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. My only. Yeah. I need you to do me a favor. You do voices, do an impression of this guy. Calling this guy. Tell him his balls are gonna be in the mail if he doesn't deliver. What, you'll do it. Next thing you know, I'm on the phone.

[Brady]

I think I need you to do me a favor.

[Brett]

I've had one run in with them mob, and I didn't even. I. I didn't know it, but there's this place called Campis in Dallas, right by smu. You get. We got to go eat free there, if you're a decent football player. And I'm sitting in the office one evening after dinner, and we're talking to Big Joe, that's the guy who started the restaurant, and. And all that. It's me and my. My line mate. There's. There. There's two of us in this kind of a cramped office. All sudden, two dude out of every movie you've ever seen. Sunglasses, black coats, black pants and a black tie, white shirt. And walk in hand, Big Joe, this manila envelope, and he literally pulls up something, looks like a whatever, 8 by 12 glossy. Boom. Pulls the other one up, puts it back down, down. Nods at the guy, hands it back.

[John Holmberg]

It's over.

[Brett]

And then he went right back to talking to us.

[John Holmberg]

It's like, I gotta hold on. I gotta go. You just witnessed the hit.

[Brett]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

You just witnessed the thumbs up.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Is that what that was in your photos?

[Brett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

That was the photographer.

[John Holmberg]

You went for the night, sir.

[Brett]

My line mate swears he saw a dead body.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God.

[Brett]

You know, and. And this was confirmation that.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, my God. But let's. You know what? And again we're clutching our pearls that this gambling thing is broke this morning and a bunch of athletes are being arrested. There is absolutely nothing new here. It's just we're surprised because there's so many cameras and so much money now and again. I always go back and Brett will argue because he just won't admit it. In the 50s, eight of the. I think 10 or 12 belts in boxing were held by Italians.

[Brett]

Right?

[John Holmberg]

When the mox. When the good. When the mob got Kennedy and they were, like, keeping an eye on them, suddenly it was just all Black guys and Mexicans. Nobody and no Italians could fight somebody else.

[Scott Taylor]

Put the work in. What are we going to take the beating for? Like I said, you're welcome. Phoenix, we got you an arena. We got you basketball team.

[John Holmberg]

You won't hear it. Okay, but it is not new.

[Scott Taylor]

Got your baseball team.

[John Holmberg]

At one point. At one point, horse racing and boxing were America's number one sport. Yes, one and two. And it wasn't even close.

[Dale Hellestrae]

No.

[John Holmberg]

And it was all because of the gambling element. Yes, that was it. That was it you could use. There was a return on illegal gambling. Everything about it. If you weren't at the arena or you weren't at the track, you couldn't bet. But a lot of people still did. But it was number one for a reason. Then it got broken up and then the regular sports came. Why wouldn't that be crooked too? I'm sure back in the 30s, nobody thought the races were fixed, but they were. Nobody thought the boxing matches were fixed, but they were. Why can't we say, say nobody thought the Chiefs and Eagles super bowl was fixed, but why not?

[Brett]

But. Well, the whole thing is. Especially back then. Obviously you didn't have all these trackers. You didn't have cameras, you didn't have phones, you didn't have computers. You didn't have all that to try and flag and track to try and get away with it today.

[John Holmberg]

Maybe it's easier.

[Brett]

How is that? Every bet is monitored by somebody.

[John Holmberg]

Right, but dummies like you and me don't understand the computer aspect of this. That's an awful lot of money getting floated around in video. Visibly.

[Brett]

But I guarantee you. What's your usual bet? 100 bucks.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, 100 bucks.

[Brett]

My mind's less.

[John Holmberg]

By the way, you owe us. We'll get to that. Yeah, that's right. What are you talking about?

[Brett]

Buyout, Johnny, you owe me.

[John Holmberg]

We'll get into this. Cut the conversation. We're moving on. Screw you and your stupid stories.

[Brett]

Your hundred dollar bet all of a sudden came up and you, John holmberg, you bet $10,000 on. On. On Devin Booker. Under.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And Devin Booker goes out.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett]

In middle of first quarter. Like.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that. And I'm not alone. I'm not alone. There's like hundreds of other people doing it. Yeah, it's obvious that you can watch the, the spikes in the falls. Right, but that's easy to manipulate too. Really. I mean, if you really say like.

[Brett]

But I. I guess what I understand is in it. And then I forgot over the summer there was the guy from the wizards who got arrested again. Gosh, I just forgot his name anyway. Gilbert Arenas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, they. They had a poker game on the plane flight home. And there's some money that flies around in those, but not a million dollars. There'll be hundreds and. Yeah. And things like that. And. And then somebody got mad at the other person, and they both brought guns.

[John Holmberg]

In the locker room.

[Brett]

It's like, what is going on? But what I. Again, wait a minute.

[John Holmberg]

What is going on? Michael Irvin tried to kill a man over a haircut.

[Brett]

John, that's fairly.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Hair's different.

[Brett]

Was understandable.

[John Holmberg]

Was it over a haircut? Is that the story? I know that's the story, but is that.

[Brett]

Well, he didn't like him either. Okay.

[John Holmberg]

And was there a woman involved?

[Brett]

No woman. No.

[John Holmberg]

Was there money involved?

[Brett]

There's a woman involved. That's Michael all day, every day. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. So he. This dude didn't dabble where he should have been.

[Brett]

Dabble? No chance.

[John Holmberg]

Because it does seem like. But it seems like a convenient story. He got mad.

[Brett]

Well, there were scissors there. Guys getting his hair cut.

[John Holmberg]

He was on probation. He should he. Something else was going on there. No one.

[Brett]

Well, if we could get into the minds of all these idiots.

[Scott Taylor]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Then maybe they wouldn't be so many idiots.

[John Holmberg]

That's a very good point. Now, speaking of idiots, last week during our football bets, Brady and I had the Bengals and Steelers. On Thursday, last week, gladly took the Bengals five and a half. Brady got that. It was a good bet. I picked Darnell Washington to score a touchdown. Check that box. Huge ding. That helped us a $2,300 bet. Brett picked his Bears to win his. Their fourth game in a row. Boom. They do it. You had your Dallas Cowboys against their rivals.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

With no receivers or anything on the commanders. And you picked the commanders to beat your heart and soul. Dallas Cowboys. And you're the only one who lost. So fork over the 33 bucks because you lost us $2,000.

[Brett]

Well, I'm going to go with the Brett payment method. I'm going to wait a. That's fine. And let the interest rise.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Okay. I see you get the vig on that. I understand. A little juice. The. The thing is, I sent everybody in our little group a text saying, all right, Brady and I did our part, and Brett's game's going our way. And the Cowboys have, you know, pick it up because they were down like 15 when I sent the text.

[Brett]

And.

[John Holmberg]

And it said on the thing, cash out 500 bucks.

[Brett]

Take the 500.

[John Holmberg]

Never. You cowards. And wait a minute. He's the one who said, take the 500.

[Dale Hellestrae]

No, I said, ooh.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that's right. No. Tempting. And I'm like, I'm not even looking at cash outs.

[Brett]

I'm a man.

[John Holmberg]

You said I wouldn't want to be in a foxhole with you. Well, that was with me. That's what I told him.

[Scott Taylor]

I wouldn't want to be on a sports book with him at 2400 bucks. We would have won.

[John Holmberg]

His family's going through a lot today. A lot of news breaking on Brett today.

[Scott Taylor]

That's not 2,400 bucks we would have walked away with.

[Brett]

Or we could have walked away with 100 and been half.

[Scott Taylor]

You wouldn't have got anything. You lost. You'd have cashed out.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, because you're a cash out.

[Brett]

We had $100 each.

[John Holmberg]

Are you or are you not a cash out guy?

[Brett]

I've never cashed.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, don't cash out. That's my. One of my. That. That is a. That's a character flaw.

[Brett]

That is.

[John Holmberg]

That's a human character flaw. It's a character flaw.

[Brett]

Come on. I mean, you got money in your pocket.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett]

To take your wife out to dinner.

[John Holmberg]

I got money in my pocket. That's why I'm gambling.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It was a couple of Super Bowls, like, two years ago. That guy had $333,000 cash out.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

If he rides, it goes to a million.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And I think he. I think he cashed.

[John Holmberg]

Well, then he's a giant person with a P word for a moniker. Because that guy, if you make the bet and you say, let's go, pay me a million dollars, you don't take the cash out.

[Brett]

No. I have been in, like, we used to do a big college bowl game pool.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brett]

And they're like 50 guys in there, and it came down to the national championship game, and I had picked one team, and if that team wins, I was going to win, like, 10 grand. Grand.

[John Holmberg]

Nice.

[Brett]

And I had no money, so see, if they win, I win. 10 grand if they lose.

[John Holmberg]

Well, if you're a broke dick gambling, you take the money. If you're a man with something underneath.

[Brett]

Or do you do the smart thing and put a little cha ching on the other team?

[John Holmberg]

Just balance yourself.

[Brett]

Not really even balance, but take a little bit so you don't walk away with nothing.

[John Holmberg]

Hedging your bets.

[Brett]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's it. It's a pussy's move. Yeah. So you make a bet and you stick to. To it. What do you say? It's like a man pays his bets, right?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I make a bet with you, we go till what the agreed ending was. You don't sit in the middle and go, can I have $20, Mom? Because that's essentially what you're doing. I don't want to lose. I don't like it. And don't gamble.

[Brett]

500. John, I know that's not much to you, but, Brady, I was reading through Brett's.

[John Holmberg]

It wasn't $500. It would have been a hundred a piece.

[Scott Taylor]

Nothing.

[Brett]

200 for you.

[John Holmberg]

That we put in. That's breaking even for me.

[Brett]

Breaking even? No, you take 100.

[John Holmberg]

Because I got to put another 100 in next week for you. Deadbeats.

[Brett]

Freaking Cowboys.

[John Holmberg]

Hey, ass. Freaking Cowboys. How about them Cowboys?

[Brett]

Who knows anything about the NFL? Who knows anything about the NBA?

[John Holmberg]

Brady and I and Brett did last week.

[Brett]

You were the only one we'll see this week.

[John Holmberg]

We all like. I haven't lost yet.

[Brett]

Jonathan.

[John Holmberg]

I got the. I got the receipt.

[Brett]

I think you and I lost the same week, and that's why we didn't have to pay.

[Scott Taylor]

That was you and I that lost.

[John Holmberg]

My bets have hit every weekday.

[Brett]

Oh, okay.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I guess I am, too.

[John Holmberg]

I think you missed one, but it was. It was a tight one, but I think that was.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Oh, because we had two losers in one week.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, two. Two loser weeks.

[Scott Taylor]

But so wait a minute. So we got Dale tied once. Is it two losses?

[John Holmberg]

Two losses in a tie. I got one.

[Scott Taylor]

I got two. Because we both lost in the same.

[John Holmberg]

We gotta go. Not time. That's good. Good for you because you're taking a beating here.

[Brett]

Can he smile?

[John Holmberg]

Toledo? No, not when you're here. He doesn't like it.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It's been a tough week.

[John Holmberg]

It's been tough week. It's Mariners. We'll talk about that.

[Brett]

You bought a ticket.

[Scott Taylor]

Buy some tickets.

[John Holmberg]

You looking at some tickets you want to buy? He sold them to Chauncey Billup's friends. He's in trouble. All right, well, more with Dale in just moments as the sports world collapses around us. Don't take away my sports. It's 98.

[Brett]

Morning sickness.

[John Holmberg]

Homeburg.

[Brett]

Morning sickness.

[John Holmberg]

We'll get to that in a little while. Dale, off the air. We'll talk about that off the air.

[Brett]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

You don't want to talk about herpes on the air.

[Brett]

We're talking about sons. Talking about rah rah got a lot.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, the rah rah room. We had Hopkins and the boys. We all went down there, had fun. My buddy, Dr. Brink Antony. My friend Brian. Yeah, we had. It was a good first half of the game, Dale. Everybody was saying, maybe they win 15 games, 16 games. We sat drinking, hanging out. Like, if they tie this game, we'll go back to our seats, but they're not gonna. Next thing you know, we're all running back to our seats. They came back. They won it. That's a bad Sacramento team. It's not a good sunset, but it was more fun to watch a team that had some charge and heart in them.

[Brett]

And my new favorite players, Dylan Brooks.

[John Holmberg]

Dylan Brooks, if you're a Suns fan, get. Get ready to buy his jersey.

[Brett]

Seriously. I was talking about it on the main event this morning before I came to in here with Steve McColum. You can find it on Apple, who that is, and Spotify and those things. But I said, imagine Kevin Durant getting six stitches in his forehead. Yeah, that's a week. Yeah, that's at least a week.

[John Holmberg]

He's out for a long time.

[Brett]

Or I'm just going to put a headband on this dude.

[John Holmberg]

Put a tampon on his head and wrapped it up with an A6 band headband and went back out.

[Brett]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

And wouldn't shut up. As the game went on, he just kept getting more and more into Rosen's face. It was exciting. And everybody's like, oh, here. When he started to bark and it got a little chippy, the whole crowd buzzed. Phoenix has never had a tough team. They've pretended to every once in a while. This might actually be a fairly tough team.

[Brett]

I don't think of all our sports franchises.

[John Holmberg]

No, it's a resort town.

[Dale Hellestrae]

It softens tough guys who come in the town.

[Brett]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Ex McDaniel was the one. I'm like, oh, Phoenix can't have tough guys. Can't happen. Because they go to the Phoenician once and they're like, yeah, this is more fun than what I'm doing.

[Brett]

Well, enjoy Dylan Brooks this year because if he spends offseason here.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, forget it. Yeah, he's going to be the nicest guy in the world.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Keep the. It's in his contract. He can't go to Scottdale. You're not allowed. Dale Hell is here right now. He's brought to you by our friends at Diamond Coatings A dot com. Get your garage floor or any sort of flooring. You've got Vamp. Just amazing what they do. You got an idea? They'll cover it and they're perfect. Diamond coatings 8. All right, let's get to the picks. We'll talk about the. We'll talk about all that other stuff on John Holmberg sports podcast. Yeah. With special guests. You said weekly special guest. Today my guests are Dale Hellas, Trey and a fellow named Dave. We're going to talk to him later as well.

[Brett]

Angry fan. He doesn't show over. Yeah, Robot TV there. He's angry.

[John Holmberg]

He still does a show over there.

[Brett]

Yeah, he's the angry patriot there.

[John Holmberg]

Jesus Christ. And our blind listener Sean Rockefeller has emailed over some thoughts on Dave after taking it easy. He hates Dave. Passionately hates Dave. All right, let's get to it. Dale blew the picks last week for us. We would have had a nice monster this week. We go right to it. In one of the worst games I've ever seen in my life. On paper. Going in. Brady's Bengals are hosting the New York Jets. Televised. It is. Yes. They're going to put cameras and pay people to talk about this game. Brady, who's the.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I'm a little nervous about this, but I'm. I'm gonna go with the Bengals.

[John Holmberg]

All right.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I mean, the jets are straight up right now.

[Brett]

Okay. Are you. Are you giving the points?

[Dale Hellestrae]

No, straight.

[John Holmberg]

Go straight up.

[Brett]

All right.

[John Holmberg]

Yours is very interesting too, Brett. The Ravens get Lamar Jackson back.

[Scott Taylor]

Well, he was limited to practice, so I don't know. They haven't said either way.

[John Holmberg]

There's no way. There's.

[Scott Taylor]

He's injured pretty good.

[John Holmberg]

He's playing. The Bears are rushing for 170 something yards a game. That's insane.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah.

[Scott Taylor]

Caleb's thrown nine. Nine touchdowns. Only three intercepts.

[John Holmberg]

Doing all right. Four and two.

[Brett]

One four. Color. What. What color? Fingernail polish.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not taking that purple.

[Scott Taylor]

We're not taking that back.

[John Holmberg]

Can't wear purple against the Ravens. The Ravens get Lamar back. The Bears go into Baltimore. Four game winning streak. Baltimore can't stop the run. Bears can run. Who you got going? 5. You're going with the Bears to be.

[Scott Taylor]

You should be proud of me, for God's sake. How about Ravens?

[John Holmberg]

I am, I am. I am rooting heavily for that. Are the Cowboys off this week, Dale?

[Scott Taylor]

Now Denver.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, they got Denver. That's right. Oh, boy. There it is in Denver. High flying Cowboys offense, no defense. Denver, no offense. Good defense.

[Brett]

I'm gonna take the Cowboys, I think, straight up. Yeah, I'll take the Cowboys straight up. Up.

[Scott Taylor]

And.

[Brett]

And how about one of those prop bets? I'll say Dak throws a touchdown pass.

[John Holmberg]

You want me to add one? I'll throw one in there if you want to make good on your.

[Brett]

I don't know how much that would add. Add to it, but I. I think. I think Dax pretty soon he's have a lot lower odds than your. Your pick last week for Pittsburgh.

[John Holmberg]

Darnell Washington. Tight end. Heavy tight end. Heavy running 3:13 all day.

[Brett]

All right.

[John Holmberg]

My Steelers are Sunday night against the packers at home. Much like I talked about last week, Steelers were 2 and 7 on Thursday night as a road team. Oh, and 6 against their own division. Now they're 2 and 10 and oh and 7 equally as impressive as on Sunday nights. Mike Tomlin is 14 and 6. Covers his bread every time. I'm going to take plus three Steelers on that. And our bet is $2,000.

[Scott Taylor]

Who.

[Brett]

Who they. Who are they playing? The Packers.

[Scott Taylor]

In Pittsburgh.

[Brett]

In Pittsburgh, Green Bay's favored.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Wow.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Steelers are getting three. How about that take?

[Brett]

Well, I think you should take him straight up. I think that's all go up to 2500.

[John Holmberg]

No, that's silly. I'm gonna take it my way. You shut up. I think. I'm not taking advice from him. He hasn't won a single week.

[Brett]

You haven't.

[John Holmberg]

You haven't won a week. Not one. We got all the other stuff too, to talk about. I'm gonna get another commercial and we're gonna do that. Who's gonna win the World Series? Go. Just go.

[Brett]

It's gotta be the Dodgers. But I want Toronto.

[John Holmberg]

You want Toronto? You hate the Dodgers, don't you? Can't you admire like Americans? All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's anti American.

[Brett]

Shohei Ohtani.

[Scott Taylor]

Look at commie.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, exactly. We'll take a break here. We'll come back with the entertainment drill. Nice job. Our bets are getting trounced mainly because of our football expert missing all of his football bets.

[Scott Taylor]

Mushell astray.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Mosh Hell astray is not helping any of that. The entertainment drill's coming up.

[Brett]

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[John Holmberg]

You thought that was funny? You were laughing like a hyena when he said it. What the hell is wrong with you? Sorry, everybody. It's true. Stuff's hard to catch, man. It's hard to catch. And I'm not. I'm not disgusting. Yeah, I. There's so much sports stuff to talk about. We're gonna have to do it on the podcast. We are, right? That'll happen on the John Holmberg sports podcast. That sports thing with John Holmberg and friends and the annoying one and then. And also Dave Nash.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

See what I did There, he called himself that. It's time for the entertainment drill. It's brought to you by our [e-mail] that's the home of Tactical Black self defense training. And you got all sorts of reasons to defend yourself in this world. I've been watching these Instagram videos, the, the, the Dark Web. Have you seen the ones where there was a great one the other day where it was a perfect example of what they do at Tactical Black. A guy comes in and a security guard pushes him, says, you're not allowed past this quite. You know, we got a line going, it's evidently like full or whatever. And he pushes him. And the guy goes, you know who I am?

[Brett]

Don't you know?

[John Holmberg]

He pulls a gun out of his waistband and he goes to lift it. And security guard ends him. Eight, nine shots. And he's like, that's it.

[Brett]

Shots with his fist, rolling with a.

[John Holmberg]

Gun, kills a guy in the doorway. And everybody's, you know, all these people in this article were like, did you have to unload the whole magazine in him? And he's like, did you notice that when he hit the ground, he shot twice? I'd shot him eight times. And he pulled the trigger two times on the ground as you keep shooting until it stops moving. And then everybody else was like, whoa. Like, that's. And they're like, that's how you train for that kind of stuff. If somebody's going to pull a gun on you, you have to. It's the scariest thing in the world, even when we just drill it up there. But there's a bunch of videos on here of like, they did it right and the general public can't take it, but this guy did it right. And there's times when they do it wrong too. But it is really remarkable if you're, if you're a guy who carries a weapon, you have to understand your higher power because you feel confident with it. But Brett was with me that one time when we started to do gun retention. So easy to take it from me. And you don't realize that. You just feel a little bit stronger. And unless you know how to work it, unless you know how to guard it, you don't know what you're doing. And that's a fact. And that's not, you know, being mean to you. Be smart about it. And you should want to learn gun retention. It's an amazing. Brett used to keep it in his, you know, kept it in your back. Not doing that anymore. It's like, because it's just the easiest thing in the world to go. This is mine now. So simple. And they teach you all that stuff. Gun retention is the best thing, I think they do up there for people who have a concealed carrier or carry permit. If you're a guy who does that, you should look into it. React Defense dot com. They're going to make you better at being you. It's the home of tactical Black Brady Entertainment.

[Brett]

Before you said so. Can you tell me what the Dark Web is?

[John Holmberg]

It's. Yeah, it's a dark.

[Brett]

How do you. How do you find the Dark Web?

[John Holmberg]

It shows up. The Dark Web finds you. Yeah, it's kind of a really. I don't know how to do it. There's some sort of secondary. What is that called? John Cobalt or some sort of other language of computer. Oh, that drops you out of the regular Internet into another one. And sometimes the Dark web videos will pop up on regular one.

[Brett]

I. I've just heard that term before, and I'm like, I don't.

[Dale Hellestrae]

I don't think I found it.

[Scott Taylor]

Stuff you don't want to be.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Well, here's the thing, Dale.

[Brett]

I don't want to be on there.

[John Holmberg]

Want to get on the Dark Web. If you want to just see the basic introduction, get your phone out right now. It's blacked.com. start there. Sit down with your wife.

[Brett]

Is this black ink? You can reorder black ink.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's right. Black doc. Oh, you get black inked. You get inked. All right. Yeah. You and your wife sit down and go, I want to show you something. And then just black ink.

[Brett]

Johnny told me about it. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You can tell whatever you want just as long as you do it. I'm fine with that. And you'll be on the Dark web.

[Brett]

Before you know it.

[John Holmberg]

You're familiar with. With black dot com. That's what makes me laugh. Look at his face. He knows Dale's had a weekend alone before.

[Brett]

It's just the way you said it, your facial expressions.

[Scott Taylor]

He worked with Michael for how many years?

[John Holmberg]

He lived it.

[Scott Taylor]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's true. All right, go ahead, Brady.

[Dale Hellestrae]

The casting director for a reality TV Kristen Moss was being interviewed and she talked about what she had to go through to get the casting. She says we dismiss a lot of people that try out because of STDs.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Dale Hellestrae]

She's basically assuring that you see these reality shows and they. They're exploring each other. We don't let anyone. That's what she said. Well, they're the exploring each Other sexually, there's going to be STD tests. We have to do that.

[John Holmberg]

And it's a show designed to have multiple people having sex with each other. You can't run the risk of bringing in diseases.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Amount of people that come in to try out that have.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, shit, sure.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Still go for it.

[Scott Taylor]

A little bumpy.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. But if they're not showing, they just have to take a blood test, find out. You'll see. But yeah, that's. That's not like Love island. And they all have to be clean. They leave clean, too. That's the. That's why they can have multiple shows. After Love island, they went to, you know, Losers island and all that stuff.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Michael Keaton was inducted into the new Pittsburgh Walk of Fame on Monday. Monday. They misspelled his name on the plaque on Michael. They reversed the E and the A. Misspell that Mike.

[John Holmberg]

Eel.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody. Yeah, I was gonna say. I'm. I'm not gonna fight that.

[Brett]

Is that an honor to be in the Pittsburgh one? Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You Mr. Rogers, Andy Warhol, probably some newscasters. And Terry.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Andrew Carnegie.

[John Holmberg]

No. Yeah, that's too.

[Dale Hellestrae]

George Benson, Roberto Clemente.

[John Holmberg]

A lot of the sports guys are going to be on that. Joe Green, Franco Harris.

[Scott Taylor]

Michael Keaton's from Pittsburgh.

[Brett]

He drove through there one.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I mean, I know the gun. Yeah, he's big. You know, he worked at. He worked on Mr. Rogers set. Oh. He ran the train for the make believe. He would push it and talk to on the other side of the wall.

[Brett]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Really? Yep.

[Dale Hellestrae]

The upcoming Martin Scorsese crazy documentary docu series. Joe Pesci refused to interview for it or be interviewed for it because he doesn't like talking about the sleazy criminals he played because they're based on people he actually knew.

[John Holmberg]

Oh.

[Dale Hellestrae]

And he goes, if I do that, he's a rat. I'm in trouble.

[John Holmberg]

You don't want to get involved.

[Scott Taylor]

No talking shut.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Keep your mouth's got a great story.

[John Holmberg]

All right, Dale, go.

[Brett]

I mean, I don't know how you pull this nonsense out.

[John Holmberg]

We can go.

[Brett]

Barbie just released a second Stevie Nicks doll. Who?

[John Holmberg]

Barbie. Oh, the Barbie. The Mattel cover. Okay.

[Brett]

This time inspired by the COVID of her solo debut, Alum Belladonna.

[John Holmberg]

You don't remember Stevie Nick's albums?

[Brett]

No, I mean, I remember her.

[John Holmberg]

She's standing in that black dress. I'm guessing that's the white gown. Oh, okay. Okay.

[Brett]

She wears a flowy white dress and tall white boots and comes with a microphone and a black top hat.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. And it's got a bird on it.

[Dale Hellestrae]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Unfortunately, the doll was only available for Barbie Club 59 members sold out right away at $60 a pop.

[John Holmberg]

Who's buying a Stevie Nicks Barbie?

[Dale Hellestrae]

You hit the back and he goes, yeah, who's.

[John Holmberg]

Who's buying this?

[Brett]

But of course, there are a bunch of listings on ebay from resellers. By the way, do you. Did you order from the Kardashians?

[John Holmberg]

John the Bush. The Ultimate Bush. Yeah, yeah, I've got that on. Do you want one?

[Brett]

Are they comfortable?

[John Holmberg]

You know what? They're scratchy. Yeah, but they're not bad. That's the album cover. That's right. And people bought the Barbie of Stevie Nicks now. And that's the second one. 70.

[Dale Hellestrae]

The other one is in the black dress.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I've seen them.

[Brett]

She went to high school.

[John Holmberg]

Did she go to Arcadia? I thought that was Linda Carter.

[Brett]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Are you sure? Did Stephen Hicks go to Arcadia, too? That could have been too far from you.

[Brett]

No, I would play against them. She's. I think, five years old.

[John Holmberg]

All right. I just.

[Brett]

Now I know it's eighth grader.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, she wouldn't have. She would probably a gigantic 8th grader. You could have gotten some older. Some older ass time.

[Scott Taylor]

No, she's 77.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, she's a little older.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

She could have been the mother of a kid. Yes. My God. That's crazy. She's 77 and making Barbies over. Hey, that's pretty good. Good for her. That's impressive. All right. What else on your mind, Dale? It's good.

[Brett]

Everything's good. I think we're gonna win this week. We'll be happy, go lucky, and better win some money.

[John Holmberg]

This is yours.

[Brett]

I'll come over with some flowers for your. For your sweet wife on Sunday.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. Are you coming by this weekend?

[Brett]

I gotta wear my Baltimore Ravens.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, they're not playing the Ravens. The Bears are. You're not coming by wearing any Ravens gear to my house.

[Brett]

I gotta show you my new hair.

[John Holmberg]

Are you coming by for the packers game Sunday night? Nick, you got to wear the shirt. You got to wear the Steelers gear.

[Brett]

They all smell, John.

[John Holmberg]

No, they don't. They're after you. Take it off jerseys. He wears it and then it smells. Then I wash it. Of course I wash my jerseys.

[Scott Taylor]

Thought.

[John Holmberg]

But I was like, man.

[Brett]

I mean, he picks up eight of those dudes on the way.

[John Holmberg]

Look, here's the thing.

[Brett]

School and Thomas.

[John Holmberg]

Dale thinks that the two Mexicans are hired help. It's always making them get drinks for him and stuff anyway. Well, okay. We'll see you Sunday. Yeah.

[Scott Taylor]

With the blower.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, that is true. There's sometimes they do have the blower on their back. They forget it's 10:09, Larry. Oh, that's right. Where are you going?

[Scott Taylor]

From 5 to 7, EOS Fitness in Queen Creek on Signal Butte and Queen Creek Road.

[John Holmberg]

All right, well, kneeside, easy peasy. Get out there and see Brett tonight. Larry's coming up next. We'll talk to you guys tomorrow right here in the morning sickness.

[Brett]

Hola, Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.