10-24-25 - Trying To Remember Really Good Horror Or Scary Movies And We Can't Think Of Any Released Recently That Were Even Decent

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Holmberg’s Morning Sickness – Arizona

Episode: 10-24-25 – Trying To Remember Really Good Horror Or Scary Movies And We Can't Think Of Any Released Recently That Were Even Decent
Date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the Morning Sickness crew embarks on an energetic, hilarious, and honest discussion about horror and scary movies. They lament the lack of great, recent horror films and reminisce about memorable, older classics, exploring what makes truly scary cinema. The hosts debate supernatural vs. “realist” horror, trade stories about their own reactions, and respond to listener suggestions, all with their trademark irreverence and wit.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Recent Horror Movies: A Disappointing Drought

• The crew agrees: “There hasn’t been a good [scary movie] in forever” ([04:02], John).
• They recognize titles like Black Phone but dismiss them as forgettable or formulaic.
• Weapons came up as a recent example, but John found it “boring” and “didn’t make any sense to me” ([06:01], John).
• The group agrees that current films rarely achieve what classics did: "No good horror movie or suspenseful movie that I want to watch again." ([05:20], John).

2. The Impact of Horror Marketing and First Viewing Experiences

• The Blair Witch Project has a unique place for its marketing, which truly unsettled audiences before its “is-this-real?” mystery was solved.
  • John describes seeing it pre-release: "They showed it to us in a theater ... I'm like, that's the most horrifying thing ever. And then on the drive home, I'm like, why were there cameras in the room at the end?" ([07:06], John).
• Rewatching, though, is disappointing: “You watch it a second time, you’re like, this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen” ([08:43], John).

3. Standout Horror Classics: The Rewatchables

• The group revisits favorites:
  • The Ring (“entire time I watched, I’m like, this is – I don't like anything ... that horse jumped off the boat” – [04:47], John).
  • The Babadook – respected for its originality and "Australian thing"; “it's kind of cool ... Babadook was actually kind of scary” ([06:38], John).
  • The Grudge (“that scared the hell out of me” – [15:30], Listener via text; “Grudge wasn’t bad” – [15:32], John).
  • The Shining – “Shining is the best” ([20:43], John).
  • Nightmare on Elm Street (the first one) – “that movie is … truly scary” ([16:05], John).
  • Deliverance – “Deliverance might be the best Halloween movie ever ... you’re trying to be men and have an adventure, and your fat friend gets raped violently right in front of you.” ([22:40] - [24:52], John).
• They point out the value in rewatchability—something rare in contemporary horror.

4. Why Is Modern Horror Lacking?

• Overexposure to “real-life horror”:
  • “We get so much terrible reality news, horror movies can’t live up to what we actually see every day” ([16:29], John).
  • The group discusses news stories more disturbing than fiction.
• Desire for realism:
  • “I just don’t like when it gets supernatural… I like murderers in movies.” ([19:21], John).
• Desensitization: As society becomes more jaded, it’s harder for films to truly shock or disturb.

5. Supernatural vs. Realistic Horror

• The group agrees supernatural horror often loses them:
  • “When it goes supernatural, I'm like, all right, now anything can happen. I like the one where the guy next door …” ([21:26], John).
• “I think that's why the Ed Gein thing is so fascinating because he's just a regular fella. I like murderers in movies, I don't want that [supernatural].” ([19:32], John).

6. Listener and Crew Favorites: Deeper Cuts and Oddball Entries

• Human Centipede (“so underrated ... awesome, because it's funny” – [11:51], John).
• Saw series (“Saw one is good. The first. Yeah, those are pretty good. They get a little silly.” – [14:17], John).
• Jeepers Creepers, Terrifier, Children of the Corn, Silent Hill, Bone Tomahawk, Quiet Place, Tusk, Get Out, The Omen, The Exorcist—all get some discussion, praise, or disses.
• Rob Zombie’s films get dismissed as “unbelievably bad,” with a mild exception for Devil’s Rejects ([24:43], John/Bret).
• International suggestions surface, e.g., Korean film I Saw the Devil is recommended ([32:17], John via Rochester).
• Shaun of the Dead and Scream recognized as modern standouts, with Scream having “as good as a horror movie gets” opening ([32:55], John).

7. The “True Story” Effect

• Stories “based on a true story” (e.g., Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Ed Gein) are especially disturbing and effective ([22:37], John).
• Real-life horrors and their proximity (“who in my neighborhood is close to this?” – [22:24], John) capture more fear than the supernatural.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On recent horror films:
  • “There hasn’t been a good one in forever, ever.” – John ([04:02])
• On Blair Witch marketing:
  • "I walked out of there feeling like that's the most horrifying thing ever. And then on the drive home, I'm like, why were there cameras in the room at the end?" – John ([07:06])
• On being duped:
  • "I thought the Blair Witch was real. Felt real until I saw the main girl on Jay Leno promoting." – Listener Nick via text ([11:05])
• On real-life horror:
  • “We get so much terrible reality news, horror movies can’t live up to what we actually see every day.” – John ([16:29])
• On Deliverance as horror:
  • “Deliverance might be the best Halloween movie ever. It was unintentionally, but for men.” – John ([22:47])
  • “You're trying to be men and have an adventure, and your fat friend gets raped violently right in front of you.” – John ([24:52])
• On supernatural losing its edge:
  • “When it goes supernatural, I'm like, all right, now anything can happen … I like the one where the guy next door is …” – John ([21:26])
• On The Shining and Stephen King’s films:
  • “Cujo was terrible. Shining is the best ... all the other stuff he’s done is not good … Christine ... all of his stuff’s garbage.” – John/crew ([20:43–20:52])
• On “human pancakes” Halloween decor:
  • “When I did my three pumpkin Human Centipede, when I carved it out and made pumpkins, eating the ass of the pumpkins in front of them ... that might be the most proud Halloween thing I've ever done.” – John ([12:00])
• On aging and horror:
  • “Sex and the City, one of the scariest things you’ll ever watch ... When Carrie gets close ups ... That is the scare. You'll scream a hundred times.” – John ([33:18])

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 04:00-06:30 | Frustration with recent horror movies, “there hasn’t been a good one in forever”; discussion of “The Ring”, “Annabelle”, “Black Phone” | | 06:38-09:30 | Marketing genius and deception of “Blair Witch Project”; disappointing on rewatch | | 11:46-14:17 | Listener input; discussion of “Human Centipede”, “Saw”, power of disturbing imagery | | 16:05-17:57 | Praise for “Nightmare on Elm Street” (original), “The Ring”, “Halloween”, and pondering how real-life news now outpaces movie horror | | 19:21-22:04 | Debate: supernatural horror vs. realism and why “true story” horror films (Ed Gein, Texas Chainsaw) scare more | | 22:40-24:52 | “Deliverance” as a horror film for men; why its violence resonates so strongly | | 24:43-26:18 | Rob Zombie movies, “Devil’s Rejects” as exception, fun with creepy Halloween adventures | | 27:24-28:25 | Analysis of recent oddball horror: “Tusk”, “Get Out”, “Quiet Place” | | 29:00-29:44 | Classic religious/supernatural horror: “The Exorcist”, “The Omen” | | 32:17-32:55 | International recommendation: “I Saw the Devil”; “Shaun of the Dead”, “Scream” as comedic/modern standouts | | 33:18-35:29 | Comic relief: aging in “Sex and the City” as true modern horror |

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Listener Interaction & Recommendations

• Audience texting in recommendations, such as The Grudge, Silent Hill, Jeepers Creepers, Terrifier ([15:15], [15:31]).
• Calls for international horror: I Saw The Devil (Korean, subtitled), shut down by Bret: "subtitled, so Bret’s out for sure—waste of time!" ([32:44], Bret/John).
• Laughter about cult classics and comedic horror: Shaun of the Dead, Scream, “first ten minutes … as good as it gets” ([32:54], John).

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Conclusion & Tone

The episode is a lively, snarky, genuine discussion among horror fans jaded by recent fare and nostalgic for the classics. They find new horror can't compete with either the real world's daily terrors or the sharp simplicity of older films. The banter is loaded with offbeat humor, candid opinions, ribbing among the hosts, and the kind of pop-culture bluntness fans love.

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For a Great Scare, the Crew Recommends:

• Classics: The Ring, The Exorcist, The Shining, Deliverance, Nightmare on Elm Street (original), Silence of the Lambs, Scream
• Modern Standouts: Get Out, A Quiet Place, Tusk (with a “ridiculous” ending)
• Wildcards: Human Centipede, Shaun of the Dead, I Saw the Devil (for subtitle fans)

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For those craving new horror, their advice: Lower your expectations…or just revisit the oldies but goodies.

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[E]

And they're.

[D]

They're Asian wives. Yeah, they're all. Look at this. I don't know who any of these guys are. Let me find that picture. It's. Yeah, Zuckerberg's got one. I don't know who the other dudes are. Said every billionaire's final startup is a marriage to an Asian lady. And they're. They're like four big deals. And Zuckerberg is one of them. They've got these young Asian girls. And the thing about it is. And Elon Musk said, they'll marry you. They'll go so far as to, like, do this. That you get yourself into a honey trap. That's. Jackpot, son. Said, tell Brady that don't feel bad about being bad at video games. They've made a special version for him called Retard Dead Redemption. I like that one. And people want Brady the patriotic man. Horse buy in the squares today. So write that down. We might have to have that. That reality in there. I was in a discussion yesterday. It's like, somebody told me, they asked me on text, like, who you like move, like, what's this? Because Dom was here and he was talking to Larry, and they were talking about a bunch of horror movies. I'd Never heard of that. Are coming out, like, right. Like, none of them. And I know about Black Phone, but I watched about 10 minutes of it and I thought it sucked. And those guys were dancing around. What is. Like, what's the last good scary movie that was made? Like, there hasn't been a good one in forever, ever. And not just Sage. Like, there's no good one too.

[E]

And I don't recognize any.

[D]

Yeah, but I mean, they're like, Annabelle is okay. And I get the last one that got me because we were talking yesterday about, like, Halloween and the scary movies and I can't remember the name of it. The Ring. That one had me like, that one the entire time I watched. I'm like, this is. I don't like anything. That. That horse. When that horse jumped off the boat, I don't remember it. Like, but that was like. And everybody that looked at the TV and saw it was just the weirdest.

[A]

About, like, the conjuring and stuff like that.

[D]

I never liked any of those. Like, they're okay.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

But I never want to go back. Like, I want. Like, if the ring is on, I'll watch it again. Like, there's no good horror movie or suspenseful movie that I want to watch again. You watch it once. You're like, all right, like, everybody's on about this weapons movie right now. And I thought it sucked. Larry loved it. And I'm like, but there's a bunch of stuff you can't explain. They never like. And to their own admission, they never went back to the thing that was. Why are there guns floating over the dead bodies heads? Why? Oh, it's like a reference to video games. Yeah, but there are no video games mentioned through the whole movie. Like, I mean, I get it that the kids were being, you know, I guess, kind of like manipulated through some sort of. So they would be the players.

[A]

The.

[D]

But it didn't make any sense to me and it was just boring after a while. Just like now I'm just bored. I haven't seen a good one in a while. I think the Ring I liked a lot. I like more of the thrillers than anything else. But if you look at movies like, Black Phone is an interesting concept, but I've already made a second one. So, you know, it's just. And that's, I think, why. It's just I feel like you get after years and years of watching scary horror movies, you feel duped. You watch a good one, you just know they're going to make a Babadook's old Too. Babadook was okay. And I think Americans like Babadook because it was like an Australian thing. So everybody was.

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

That one Babadook is an Australian, kind of almost Beetlejuicer Candyman. That there's the little boy. And it's funny because the little boys run around the house all the time. It's the baby Duke. It's the baby Duke. And he's got the little accent, and you're worried about a stupid named thing. But then mom turns into a Babadook, and it's this, you know, you have to go through the steps, and the Babadook can take you over. It is kind of cool. And he lives under the stairs, and he's scary. Babadook was actually kind of scary.

[A]

What about Blair Witch? Did you get into that?

[D]

Blair Witch? I. Here's the thing about Blair Witch that. Damn it. So when I worked at the old radio station, the Zone, they came to us about eight months before that movie had any press and said, we want to show you guys a documentary. And they showed it. It was the. The marketing of that movie was so good that they showed it to me and my producer, Kevin, and Stephanie, the girl that was on the show. And they showed it to us in a theater. And there were, like, seven people in the whole theater. And I'm like. And they're telling us the whole time this is. This actually happened?

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

They didn't. They weren't saying it was a movie. They're saying this. This is something. We don't know if the public's ever going to see it. We're thinking about doing this. We're showing it to, you know, media outlets and things like that. So we got to watch that. And I walked out of there feeling like that's the most horrifying thing ever. And then on the drive home, I'm like, why were there cameras in the room at the end? Like, wait a second. Did I just fall for that whole thing? But I had to ask questions. You didn't have, you know, full Internet access in 1998 or whenever it was to sit and go, is that real? So you had to discuss it with the other people that saw it. Stephanie was 100% in, because girls aren't, you know, They're. You know what I'm saying? She fell for it hook, line, and Sinker was crying. The producer, Kevin, was like, I don't know. Like, it seemed so okay until it didn't. And so then you watch it a second time. You're like, this Is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Once you knew it was a movie, it's terrible. But the way they presented it to. And I went on the air the next day because I still wasn't quite. I'm like, if I saw. We hadn't been, you know, shown Brett's videos of dark web horrors and, you know, you had to go watch the faces of death to even come close to anything. That was like murder mystery crazy. And then at the end, I'm like, wait a second, it's a ghost. Like, I'm falling for this. Like, I fell for, like, the acting's okay, but you watch it a second time.

[E]

It doesn't hold up.

[D]

Oh, it doesn't hold up. It's because it's terrible. It doesn't hold up. The first time if you have critical thinking.

[E]

First time I watched.

[D]

Oh, it's terrible theater. Well, by the time it got to the theater, everybody was kind of in on the idea. I was like, and then you find out that it's just a ripoff and they should have been sued for a movie called the New Jersey Devil. It's the same exact thing. These kids did it with handicams back in early night. It's the same exact thing called the New Jersey Devil.

[E]

And it is amazing. The money that it made, it was huge. And because people weren't sure to make it was very.

[D]

Yeah, it was War of the World anything, right? It was. War of the World's terrible. Like, it was like. Or War of the World's exceptional when it comes to the media. But it was a terrible movie. By the way. Cheddar. Hard R. Cheddar is the word for seven o'. Clock. Not cheddar. Like you say. Cheddar get on that. Hit our app. Make it take some money out of the app. Like that Ryan guy. Yeah. So I was thinking about that and I'm like, it's a little disappointing because, you know, we all get excited for a good scary thriller. Yeah.

[A]

If it's good. But there's so much trash out there too.

[D]

Yeah. There's like no anxiety inducing fear based horror movie. Broomhead over at KTR told me about a six part series about this dude that had ghosts in his house in Florida and he just documented the whole thing. And every once in a while, I don't buy ghosts, but every once in a while there'd be a clunk or something that came out of nowhere that made you just go, if that was real. But it's just not. And Broomhead text me Later. What do you think? Do I get tactical? Tactical? Tactical. Like, no, I didn't like it at all. It was okay. It was six episodes was too many. I tried getting through it. It was okay.

[E]

It is a lot.

[D]

But by the end of it, you're like, okay, he's going to go back to that stupid swamp and banging around. And then you start wondering if people are going to die. Nobody was going to die. It's ghosts. Yeah. Blair Witch was in there. I don't know. There's just been nothing. And I think when Pete, when I asked yesterday, that was the best one I come up with is the ring. What's. I mean. And that's a long time ago that I would go back and watch again. Yeah. This guy says, I thought, nick, you're as dumb as I was. Nick says, I thought the Blair Witch was real. Felt real until I saw the main girl on Jay Leno promoting. Yeah, that was pretty. So I guess you were chased around by an apparition. For how long were you in the woods there? But you're getting stalked and your friends are all dead. Let's talk about your movie. Yeah, I was in the movie. And people think it's real because they're dumb. I thought it was real. Your friends have never been on the show.

[E]

So it's movies disturbing the Human Centipede.

[D]

That I still think is so underrated. Human Centipede, awesome. Because it's funny.

[E]

Time of the season. It's pretty good to watch that.

[D]

When I did my three pumpkin Human Centipede, when I carved it out and made pumpkins, eating the ass of the pumpkins in front of them, and I used yarn and sewed them together. That might be the most proud Halloween thing I've ever done. And the doctor in that movie, oh, he was great. The best part of my Human Centipede pumpkin was having to explain it to kids. Because at the time, not a lot of people knew, what in the world did you make there? And the moms were like, yeah, what is that? I'm like, have you seen Human Centipede to kids? What's Human Centipede? Oh, this crazy German doctor stows his face to people's butts and like, all right, that's. Give him his Snickers and let's get off the porch. You're a horrible man.

[E]

Why?

[D]

It's pumpkins eaten. We're eating them, too. You gutted it. Why can't they eat out of each other? Bye, now. But I made that thing. I was so proud of it. I Took pictures. I've never taken pictures of anything. Halloween, I took pictures. I was so proud of myself. It's hard to carve out the pumpkin and make it fit on another pumpkin's ass. It's hard. And then I tried to make the first pumpkin, like. Oh, like make a face like horrible things were happening. The middle pumpkin. Oddly enough, the sun killed the middle pumpkin first. Just like in the real.

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[D]

Holmberg's morning sickness, because it's the hardest one to keep alive. But yeah, it was. It was. That was pretty good. I like that. And then, of course, you know, there's the. Just the absolute horrific stuff where it's just slaughters. And I don't get into those either. We need it. We need a. We need a. A new forever one. This one says.

[E]

I mean, the saw movies. One or two.

[D]

Saw one is good. Is good. The first. Yeah, that's. Those are pretty good. They get a little silly. And then I think there was like seven or eight or somewhere along the line they made another good one, but I don't know. Yeah, that's. It says the guy said the only thing at Blair Witch that freaked me out was the end where the camera just shows the guy standing in the corner. I don't know why, but it made my whole body chill. Ye. Because it felt. I don't know. That was the last time we could be duped by something. Like in movies that. But they promoted the hell out of that thing so well. And they got me talking. They got people in. You know, they went grassroots. They went city to city and got us talking on the air going, there's. I've not seen this in the news. I don't know what this is. But evidently these kids were stalked. They still don't know who did it, if it was a person or. And then I had to catch myself and go there. There are no ghost murders in the history of Man. So why in the. Why would the one that happened be fully documented? I was pretty dumb on that one. That was not good.

[A]

Tons of people are sending in all kinds of crazy horror movies.

[D]

Yeah. You know, and they. I don't want to.

[E]

You don't recognize the names?

[A]

Some do.

[D]

It's, you know, like, anything that stands out. I don't want to watch a movie. The Grudge was pretty good. That wasn't bad. Yeah.

[A]

Grace said the Grudge scared the hell out.

[D]

Yeah, Grudge wasn't bad. This guy says, John, you're right. They've remade the Hand that Rocks the Cradle. If you're looking for a good horror movie, you have to go to films. Pre2012. Silent Hill was. I did like that one, too. The Freaky Nurses. Yeah, there's been a few. There's just nothing that's like, go back to. And you watch old Like Halloween. And again, I always say that one of the best ones ever made and unfortunately got ruined was the first Nightmare on Elm Street. That movie is.

[A]

I haven't seen that so long.

[D]

If you get rid of Freddy after, like, we all know what he is now. Return goofy joke where he got silly. That first one is, like, truly scary because it's based on the idea that if you die in your dreams, you die. What if. What if. What if you fall asleep? What if there's a murderer that can get in there? It was kind of a cool thing. You can't fall asleep. That one's pretty good. Just enough gore to be like, yuck. And then just enough suspense to be worried about it. That's an underrated movie. As far as horror movies go, there aren't many good ones. I don't know. I think it's. You know what I think? Why? Oh, this might be something I just stumbled into. I think because we get so much terrible reality news, horror movies can't live up to what we actually see every day. You know, sensitized. Well, it's a little desensitized, but at the same time, it's like the story can't. Like, we watch things online that are so, like, grotesque and weird that the story around it is better. You can't make it up. Like, so if you try to make characters out of it, you get bored until you just get to the meat and potatoes. And we get the meat and potatoes with Brett every day on our Instagram. Every day. So. And then you read stories about, you know, like, this thing that's going on here in town that they just arrested a crossing guard. Who's 22 for having a ton of child porn downloads on his phone. And he got a tip. Somebody said, hey, I happen to know this guy. And he's downloading them into his Dropbox and they find him in the Dropbox and go through his computer and like, you've got tons of this. He's 22 and he's like, I know it's bad. I just have this. But he got a job as a crossing guard. So I mean, we can start the horror every day with a story we read or something we see on Instagram or in the news. So I think we're surrounded by so much horror movie stories that the horror movies are silly now. It's like, wow, that's nothing compared to Nathan Sutherland. Or I mean, Nathan Sutherland is a horror movie.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[D]

And it happened. That's why the Ed Gein thing has everybody. That's why Ed Gein's message in the documentary is like, you guys love this stuff. We can't keep up. Like, you like taking real things and making them entertainment. This dude was a butcher. Like, he was a horrible. The Butcher of Plainfield.

[E]

I think there is definite truth to that. Because as far as. Even the. The graphic side of it. Because back in the day when you'd have a good horror movie, they would. It left your. The imagination. They would. A lot of them. Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. You just knew somebody was more effective than the actual show.

[A]

People are saying Jeepers Creepers.

[D]

Never saw that one.

[E]

That dude.

[D]

Is that okay? Is that the one with that big super smiley faced guy?

[E]

No, he's like a. He's a demon. But I know the one you're talking about that.

[D]

Yeah, I don't know what that. He's got a top hat.

[A]

Terrifier is another one that keeps coming up.

[D]

Yeah, somebody actually I've heard terrifier. A few people have said that to me. Even yesterday we were talking about it. I don't know. I just don't.

[E]

Children of the Corn.

[D]

That's. Yeah, those. I never thought that was any good. Actually. That one never got me. Just Stephen King stuff sucks. Almost all of it.

[E]

Jeepers Creepers thing was a flying Batman like thing that would attack. Swoop in on a school bus.

[D]

I just don't like when it gets supernatural, you know, I like it. I think that's why the Ed Gein thing is so fascinating because he's just a regular fella. I like murderers in movies. I don't want that.

[E]

Got me pretty good. Was as far as if being in Tight Spaces was either the cave or where they were going underground.

[D]

Oh. When they make it full anxiety, like there's no move. Yeah.

[E]

They came across those orc things or Minox hillbillies that were living in there.

[D]

That's right.

[E]

It was.

[D]

God about. That was. Yeah. That was kind of gay, I think. Well, because it just. You can like it if you want, but everybody else thinks it's gay. I forgot about that one. Yeah. And they called them. Like they're eating people. Yeah. They called them Minox, which was something from another thing. But they were bone. Tomahawk is pretty intense. Not a great.

[E]

It's a slow.

[A]

Slow.

[D]

Yeah, it's. It's a Western.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

With but that couple of awesome scene. Oh, man, that dude gets split in half. That one's not bad. The Shining.

[E]

I don't know.

[D]

Suspenseful, crazy. It's long. It's. It's like it builds and builds and builds. It never has a down moment. But yeah, I think maybe King One horror movie.

[A]

That's probably the best one, I would think. Which one? The Shining.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Because Cujo was terrible.

[D]

Shining is the best.

[A]

Cemetery was horrible.

[D]

Horrible. Almost all the. Except for Shawshank Redemption and Misery. Right.

[A]

But those are really.

[D]

Horror Green Mile. Yeah, those are. All the other stuff he's done is not good. Christine. And yeah, there's all of his stuff's garbage. Like, it all looks cheap too. Like, even Cujo's like this. Just like, I can tell when the dog turns into a puppet. Yeah. I missed. I missed the days of going like.

[E]

The gauge has something to do with it probably.

[D]

But you'd think that they could. Like people who are older could make a smarter, like, fun. But I think it's because you.

[E]

That's where they get into the spiritual side. The ghost.

[D]

Yeah, that's when they lose me. They lose me completely. When it's like. When it goes supernatural, I'm like, all right now anything can happen. I like to. I like the one where the guy next door is like, think about all the things that could be movies. We say it all the time. Oh, that's gonna make a great movie. The dude that kidnapped those white ladies in Cleveland, stuffed him in the basement. Come on.

[E]

The guy in. Was it either Austria or Germany that kept his daughter and the kids in that dungeon for years? She had kids?

[D]

Oh, that's right. He made babies with her. Yeah, it was the old. I remember that. I forgot about that. Then she had to raise her down.

[E]

There for like 15 years.

[D]

This is the type of stuff that horror movies are made of. Oh, and the. And the British couple that killed their daughter, buried her in the yard and then started to kill just people that would stay at their house. And they were like these butchers on this regular street that owned some sort of. That. It's a great documentary, but that would be an awesome.

[E]

Things that are based on a true story.

[D]

Yeah, that's what that makes better ones. Because then you can sit and look at your neighbors and go, where do I live? Who in my neighborhood is close to this? Because it's close.

[E]

Because back in the day, I remember the Texas Chainsaw Massacre based on a.

[D]

Trace on a true story. Well, it was edgy.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

So it's just borrowed. Nothing from. Never happened. But it was borrowed stuff. But in the. You know, you get around Halloween, you start worrying. Deliverance is the scariest movie that's ever been made, hands down. That's probably true. That's. That is a. That rape scene is enough to make every man just go, I'm never. I'm never going out there. Like you wouldn't say, like the way the showers. People hated showers after Psycho. I don't know that there's a man who's ever walked in the woods since Deliverance came out and not said squeal like a pig or like, just broke the tension by mentioning Deliverance. It's real.

[E]

Whenever you're canoeing.

[D]

Yeah. If you ever even think about camping or canoeing.

[A]

I don't do either.

[D]

Your fattest friend's gonna take it in the ass from a hillbilly. Sorry, Brady, you're out. I mean, Brady would be our Ned Beatty. You know, we would go out a lot. Yeah, you'd be Burt Reynolds. I'd be Jon Voight. He'd be Ned Beatty. And I feel for you, brother. That's the casting. The. The work you have to do in that.

[A]

Toledo's playing a banjo.

[D]

No, Toledo would be Ronnie. What's his name? Ronnie Cox. The fourth guy. It was kind of like Toledo. You didn't really need him.

[E]

That arm over the. Bent over in the rapids.

[D]

He takes a beating. Yeah, but Deliverance might be the best Halloween movie ever. It was unintentionally, but for men. You're trying to be men and have an adventure, and your fat friend gets raped violently right in front of you.

[E]

And then goes home. What a weekend.

[D]

He didn't go, did he? Oh, yeah, he had to. He survived. You're right. I forgot about that. He back in the station wagon and didn't Burt Reynolds, like, bust his leg and the bone was sticking out.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, it's such a great movie.

[E]

So tense when he's trying to hold on to that compound, though.

[D]

Yes. Oh, okay, now we're cooking with gas. Deliverance is a great suspense movie. Silence the Lambs to me is as good as any movie can ever get. So that's always on the list. But I don't. You know, there's been. Remember when Rob Zombie started pushing his movies out and everybody got excited and you watched me like, these are unbelievably bad.

[A]

I like the Devil's Rejects. I thought that was good.

[D]

It. Visually, it's neat, but nothing happens.

[A]

But everything else, it's like when he read it.

[D]

Halloween. Oh. Anyway, yeah, it's the season. Everybody's talking about that kind of stuff. But, yeah, if you want to watch a movie that's going to make you cringe for Halloween. Deliverance is the answer for men. I don't know that women understand how horrifying Deliverance is because every guy goes through that. We're going to go up. I'm doing it this weekend. I've got a couple of my buddies that just bought Jeeps.

[A]

You got.

[D]

God damn it. Oh, no. Well, I mean, it's an Airbnb. It's very nice. It's actually really nice. I didn't even think of that. We're gonna go out into the. I'm there.

[E]

It'll make you think about it.

[D]

I just now did for the first time. But we'll. Oh, Jesus. Well, none of us. Who would I be in this one? Anthony B. Burt Reynolds. Brink would be Ronnie Cox. I'm again John Voight Brady. You want to go with. We don't have a fourth. We need our Ned Beatty. Yeah. They just bought new Jeeps. And I'm like, I'll show you around Sedona. And can kind of get used to knowing how to four wheel in the. You know, the fun yet, you know, starter kits. And they're all kind of nervous about they've never done it. And morning sickness. Holg's morning sickness. Oh, boy. And I want. And my whole goal is to take him on a night run. Oh, this is going to end in rape. Not again.

[E]

You hear banjo run.

[D]

Oh, yeah. I might just play it. Maybe I'll be that kid. This one says Tusk is the. Is a great scary movie. Body horror twists and the dude gets raped. I saw Tusk. It's with Brendan Fraser. Or is that Brendan Fraser? No. Yes, it is. No, he's the walrus in the other one. What's the. I can't remember.

[E]

The whale.

[D]

Well, yeah, this guy surgically makes a dude a walrus.

[E]

And isn't that the one that Kevin Smith behind? Is that.

[D]

Yes. Yeah. And then at the end, there's. Well, I won't give it away, but it's good. And so is it. Elijah Wood who's in Tusk. Look up Tusk. I forgot who the guy is, but he's kidnapping. And the guys. He had one before, and. But then he's got this fascination with walruses, and he turns the dude into a walrus, and then they get into this weird fight at the end, and it's this rubber suit. It's very strange. And there's a rape in it. And it's the Kevin Smith one.

[A]

Yeah. Michael Parks. Justin Long.

[D]

Justin Long. That's who I'm trying to. Justin Law is the one that turns into the walrus. It is. It's. It's kind of worth it until the last 20 minutes because you can't tell. Is this supposed to be hilarious? And then it doesn't actually. Get out was pretty good.

[E]

Get out was.

[D]

Get out was a good movie. On top of being a little bit like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, I liked Get Out. That's a good one. Anyway, just. I got into that conversation yesterday. It's been running through my head because I just have my basics. I go to the ring. I love Silence of the Lambs and a couple of the old, old horror movies. But the other one.

[E]

It'S about the same age as Get Out. It's with.

[D]

God darn it, he'll get it.

[E]

Never mind.

[A]

The woman's version of Deliverance is the last house on the left. I never seen that one.

[E]

Quiet Place.

[D]

Quiet Place is good. That's a really good. The last house on the left. Yeah, I. Brady just caught his own. He was scrambling the hamster, got the wheel going fast. Quiet place. Last house on the left is. There's a woman getting raped by hillbilly in there.

[A]

I don't know. I'm gonna have to look that up.

[D]

Yeah. All right. Yeah, there's. Yeah. I want to see something good again. And then you go back to the old ones. Don't be afraid of the dark. Guy just sent me that. And, you know, dial M for murder. They're horrible, but they scared the hell out of people.

[E]

The original Omen.

[D]

Yeah, it's okay. It's pretty good.

[A]

I'm still an Exorcist guy.

[D]

I like the Exorcist original.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Omen's.

[E]

Good.

[D]

It's just got. It's an awful lot.

[E]

There's a couple of good.

[D]

Oh yeah. Oh, and Damien starts knocking people down.

[E]

The train hitched in the.

[D]

For years I used to scream if I ever looked out a window and saw someone I knew I would say their name just like that maid and go, I did it all for you. And if anybody got it, they'd laugh. If they didn't, they just thought I was nuts. But that maid that hangs herself off the top and Damien and like what is she doing up there? I did it off of you. And then she leaps off the roof and hangs herself. Oh. And they show the whole thing.

[A]

Event Horizon.

[D]

Never saw it.

[A]

It's more of a sci fi horror movie. But I know our buddy Captain Coronado, he freaks out over that.

[D]

One guy says one of the ones I've seen recently, that's one of. I think an all time horror classic is called Blood in them Hills. There's two hillbillies in that I thought were gonna rape me. That's Brady and I. Brady and I are the Blood in Them Hills movie. I forgot about that.

[E]

Top of the list.

[D]

Yeah, I don't think you can top horror movies because we have too much access to the news.

[A]

Last. Last house on the left was a rape and revenge horror film.

[D]

Well that sounds good.

[A]

Right away it was Wes Cravens directorial debut.

[D]

It was.

[A]

Yeah, that's old 72.

[D]

Okay, I'll keep an eye out on that one. Yeah, I mean think of again. Go back to the. The horror movie. It's not gonna. You're gonna have a hard time coming up with something better than 22 year old crossing guard for kids. Turns out he's a porn addict for, you know, underage porn. Thank God they caught him or it would have turned into a horror movie.

[A]

Couple came up. Cabin in the woods.

[D]

Never saw that. Yeah, there's a few of them out there. I'm gonna get on that. I'm gonna get on that this week. I'm gonna try to find some new ones but I'll end up going back to the basics. And the favorites. Tusk is. Tusk is an interesting one. Just know. Take it from me, the ending is ridiculous but it's got some life to it. As it goes on. You're kind of like this isn't bad at 7:23. The word for 7 o' clock hour is cheddar hard R. You throw that in there. The promo code for seven o'. Clock. Take it in the app and you might be walking away with A thousand bucks. We're buying your love. That's what we do. And it's always good for everyone, especially the winner. So do it today. Cheddar, you got about 15 more minutes. Throw that in there. We'll come up with another one at 8:00'. Clock. Brett, what do you got on the big board of musical treats?

[A]

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[D]

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[A]

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[D]

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[A]

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[D]

Someone I trust with movies is Rochester from next door at the Video West. He's. He's a movie guy. He's an actor and stuff like that too. And he says, watch the Korean film I saw, the Devil. Says one of the best serial killers I've ever seen on film. He kills the fiance of a detective who tracks him down and puts a tracker in him and then goes and stops him before he kills again. Which is pretty cool. That's cool. I like that idea. But subtitled. So Brett's out for sure.

[A]

Waste of time.

[D]

And then if you want to laugh and watch a really good one, Shaun of the Dead is still brilliant. Somebody brought that up. I'm like, that is a spectacular movie.

[A]

About the first scream.

[D]

Good. First 10 minutes of that movie are as good as a horror movie gets. Yeah, Scream's pretty awesome. I like that one, too. All right, what do you got up.

[A]

There on the list? Psycho Stick, Apocalyptica, Static X, Iron Maiden, Shinedown, Marilyn Manson, Mob Scene for everything going on. System of a Down, Wasp, for some reason, Stone Sour Dope, Metallica and Primus.

[D]

And I have to agree with my friend Gary. Sex and the City, one of the scariest things you'll ever watch. Especially the reboot, the most recent one. And just like that, when you get to see the horrors of aging. My God, these women. What happened to them? Sarah Jessica Parker always looked like Ruth Buzzi when she was young. Now she looks like Ruth Buzzy's foot. And they keep dressing her up like that's gonna fix it. It doesn't. And they managed to find women on that show that are equally as weird looking to make Sarah Jessica Parker actually the pretty one. Still impossible. That's that you watch that you'll get. You'll freak out. That's a bad one. That is the scare. You'll scream a hundred times. Especially when Carrie gets close ups. When you get close ups of Carrie Bradshaw on the new Sex in the City. Oh, my God. You will. It's got to be scary. That's got to be the rape scene in Deliverance to women to see what's going to happen to them when they get old. That's Carrie used to love her. What happened to her face? She turned 55. It's inevitable. They should do. They did that. Actually that's kind of the movie to me. More in that Quality Girl or just in where they did that serum to not age. It's more. It's less about that and more about like body morphing into other things. Because you're, you know, plastic surgeries and stuff. Eventually you're going to turn into a monster. The monster you fear with aging is nowhere near as dangerous as the one you can actually do yourself thinking that you're fixing the aging. So it's. That one's pretty good. I forget what it's called. Like serum or something like that. I can't remember. It's not bad. And Margaret Qualley is naked in it a lot. And you're like, this is. She's pretty hot. And then you realize that it's all menu. It's all fake. Like they put on fake boobs. She never did a nude scene. It was all prosthetics. But they're really good prosthetics. Whatever you want to do there, Bert, you pick it up.

[A]

I like the Manson or the Apocalyptica.

[D]

Let's do mob scene. That was one that popped up for me too.

[E]

All right.

[D]

Manson's mobs. And I haven't seen this yet, but somebody said Long Legs is a decent movie. Nicholas Cage just did that like a year ago. Did you see that?

[A]

No.

[D]

You didn't see that?

[A]

I didn't watch Nicholas Cage movies normally. Unless I want to laugh.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. Nicholas Cage movies usually are like. Well, he's put out a lot. A ton of. And they're. None of them are that great. Last one I watched all the way through Is pig. I got a pig. Baby girl. It sniffs out truffles. And he got a pig that he loved very much and became a. Because it could find truffles faster than anyone else. So it made his restaurant better. He was a chef. It's a strange movie. I think the pig got stolen and killed. I don't remember. Baby girl down.

[A]

Careful.

[E]

Pig gone.

[D]

He loves it.

[A]

It is.

[D]

Yeah, it's. It's sort of like John Wick without all the violence that his pig goes missing. Not bad, though. All right, let's do it. Mob scene by Marilyn Manson. I like this one a lot. Knock it out. Here's your wake up song. Everybody at 7:30. Got 10 more minutes with Cheddar. Put Cheddar up there and get yourself a chance at a thousand bucks on the app. Is it not running? What happened? Oh, look at me. I was running it, man.

[E]

Stretch.

[D]

I was running. I was stretching. Stretch again. You start whenever you feel the need. Oh, you got to start your computer all over. Oh, well, I was stretching.

[A]

I'll stretch some more here.

[D]

Well, you still have nine minutes. Come on, build it up for these people. A thousand dollars? That's awesome. Imagine what you could do with that, man.

[A]

What would you do with a thousand dollars?

[D]

Well, I don't know, but it's sitting there. And you can take it in the app. This is us stretching, by the way. Hurry up, Brad. I got.

[A]

I'm working it. I'm working it.

[D]

Brady's still looking up movies. He's remembering the Demi Moore one.

[E]

The substance.

[D]

The substance. There you go. If you see Brady later today and he just shouts out the substance, that means his brain started working again. Quiet place. It's 98 KVD, Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.