10-30-25 - Thursdays w/Former Dallas Cowboy OLineman Dale Hellestrae - Thoughts On Suns Start To The Season And Dale Being Booed Out Of John's House Sunday - Picks For NFL Week 9 Games

Summary

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Episode Overview

Holmberg's Morning Sickness invites former Dallas Cowboys lineman Dale Hellestrae for their regular “Thursdays with Dale” segment. This episode covers the Phoenix Suns’ frustrating start to the NBA season, Dale’s comedic misadventures as a houseguest at John Holmberg's, playful banter about family and fandom, and, as always, spirited picks and debates for NFL Week 9. The episode balances strong sports analysis with the show’s trademark sarcasm, storytelling, and locker-room humor.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Dale’s Visit to Holmberg’s House: Booed Out & Banter (01:11–10:00)

• The show opens with John, Dale, Brady, Brett, and Toledo exchanging jabs about Dale's visit to John’s house on Sunday for a football game get-together.
• Dale comments on John's custom basketball court (“awesome” but jokes he’s “not sliding on it” and pokes fun at the Steeler-themed décor).
• Tension and laughter escalate regarding Dale's athleticism versus John's (03:02–03:54).
• Dale describes arriving wearing Ravens swag (to the horror of Steelers fans in the room), immediately earning jeers and getting “booed out” by John and friends (06:32–07:11).
• Dale insists he’s a gracious guest—despite the crowd’s reaction:

  "I brought a big bottle of the vodka that he likes. ... I brought flowers to his wife." — Dale (08:16)

• The segment degenerates humorously into the group arguing over who owes money for pizza and whose house etiquette is worse.

Notable Moments and Quotes:

• "[After] Dale comes over and she feels at home." — John on Dale’s wife working with special needs kids (06:07)
• "I just took that seat and evidently your wife was sitting next to that seat and your boy, Chris, on the other side. And boy, a lot of stupidity in that room." — Dale (08:54)
• "When I got to Chris...the stupidity was chasing me out the door and I could feel it. I could feel it on my ass as I tried to get out the door...I felt smarter [after I left]." — Dale (09:43)

2. The Great "Meet Dale’s Wife" Capers (10:03–15:44)

• Hilarious speculation about why John hasn’t met Dale’s wife after years of friendship.
• Dale’s wife expresses curiosity (12:19), leading to a comical but oddly threatening sequence about what might happen if they did meet.
• "I'm the biggest lie in your life." — John (14:08)
• Banter about a “double date” and who would get whose wife, culminating in light-hearted threats of property and marital swaps (“That basketball court would be changed...turned into a Cowboys court”).
• Tone: Sarcastic, self-deprecating, and (almost) sitcom-like.

3. Phoenix Suns Frustration & The ‘Booker Problem’ (17:25–26:51)

• John laments (from firsthand experience at the game) the Suns’ inability to “have nice sports things” (17:39), referencing another demoralizing loss.
• The focus quickly zeroes in on Devin Booker’s attitude and late-game decisions:

  "I've got to be the person who questions whether or not Devin Booker cares about [winning]." — John (17:36)
  "He doesn't have fun playing basketball." — Dale (18:18)

• Both agree Booker’s body language and tendency to bail out on big moments is worrying, punctuated by his choice to take a desperation 39-foot shot with several seconds left:

  "Devin Booker, you're making $50 million a year. Make a play. And I'm so sick and tired of seeing him settling for 30-foot jump shots." — Dale (19:31)

• They wonder if Booker is just too comfortable in Phoenix and whether the franchise should move on from him if his commitment wanes (21:10–21:25).
• Comparison to the long-suffering Larry Fitzgerald and Shane Doan, Valley stars who stayed loyal but never won a title, with John suggesting a trade might be the noble move for all (26:07).

Notable Quotes:

• "This city just cannot have nice sports things. The Cardinals are a catastrophe. ASU lost last week, and they're gonna lose again..." — John (17:39)
• "Your superstars deserve a shot...but please, do not put Larry Fitzgerald and Devin Booker [in the same category]." — Dale (26:07)

4. On Injuries, Cam Scadaboo, and Football War Stories (27:29–31:43)

• John admits to being a “mush” (bad-luck fan) after ASU standout Cam Skattebo’s season-ending injury, which he accidentally predicted on the previous episode.
• Dale details his own identical injury (“completely dislocated my ankle ... 98% of the time comes a fractured fibula”), providing grim but honest insight about recovery (~28:07–29:46).
• Cam’s recovery prospects are weighed; Dale says nine months is optimistic, depending on how much ligament damage occurred.
• Both reflect on the psychological adjustment after catastrophic injuries.

Notable Quotes:

• "All my ligaments were gone when my ankle got dislocated." — Dale (31:16)

5. NFL Week 9: Picks, Jokes, and Betting Chaos (34:19–39:18)

• Dale, John, Brett, and Brady argue (and bungle) through their weekly NFL picks and side-bets.
• Bengals/Bears, Cowboys/Cardinals, and Colts/Steelers are the games of focus, with some confusion over prop bets and payout math.
• As usual, the betting discussion turns into a comic farce about who’s winning, what the rules are, and how badly everyone is performing.
• “If Dale has to explain the math to you...” — John, roasting Brett about bet logistics. (36:49)

6. Odds and Ends: Listener Email & Show Dynamics (16:26; 39:26–40:00)

• John shares an email from a listener who couldn’t tolerate Dale’s other podcast for more than 10 minutes, which triggers more group ribbing.
• Humorous self-awareness as Dale jabs at his own “C-tier” podcast and John embraces his “man mistress” role as Dale’s true radio soulmate.
• The camaraderie and “roast everybody” spirit rounds out the show.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------| | 01:11–10:00 | Dale’s house visit fiasco & friendly abuse | | 10:03–15:44 | Joking about John meeting Dale’s wife & family banter | | 17:25–26:51 | Phoenix Suns postmortem & the Devin Booker discussion | | 27:29–31:43 | Cam Scadaboo injury & Dale’s NFL injury recollections | | 34:19–39:18 | Weekly NFL picks & comedic chaos over betting | | 16:26 | Listener feedback about Dale’s "other" podcast | | 39:26–40:00 | Closing show banter & signoff |

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Tone & Style Observations

• Language & Tone: Sarcastic, quick-witted, irreverent, with gruff affection and local flavor. Even sports talk is tinged with self-mockery.
• Style: Conversational, story-driven, heavy on teasing, “locker room” humor, but ultimately sports-nut insightful.

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Memorable Quotes (with Attribution & Time)

• “This city just cannot have nice sports things. The Cardinals are a catastrophe…”
  — John Holmberg (17:39)
• “He doesn't have fun playing basketball...the only time I've seen him enjoy it was the Olympics.”
  — Dale Hellestrae (18:18)
• “I’m the biggest lie in your life.”
  — John Holmberg (14:08)
• “I brought a big bottle of the vodka that he likes. … I brought flowers to his wife.”
  — Dale Hellestrae (08:16)
• “Devin Booker, you're making $50 million a year. Make a play. And I'm so sick and tired of seeing him settling for 30-foot jump shots.”
  — Dale Hellestrae (19:31)
• “If Dale has to explain the math to you...”
  — John Holmberg (36:49)

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Conclusion

This episode is a prime slice of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness: raucous, family-like sports radio that mixes local Phoenix fandom, genuine sports frustration, sharp wit, and the kind of ribbing that only happens among old friends. Whether you’re in it for sports insight or the banter, the show delivers both in heavy doses.

Transcript

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[Dale Elster]

Homburg's morning sickness.

[John Holmberg]

The old method of treatment for a person in this condition was to throw him in jail in the name of love. Ow. FA fou. That's great stuff. Highly suspect right there. Highly suspect.

[Dale Elster]

Is that AI? Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

No, it feels like a.

[Dale Elster]

You almost have to check everything now. It's.

[John Holmberg]

It will just wait. This is the brand new stuff Dale to just start.

[Dale Elster]

It will be used for bad.

[John Holmberg]

Everything is.

[Dale Elster]

It will be used for bad.

[John Holmberg]

Sting said it in his song I've never seen a. What is this? What is the thing? Something of technology. Modern technology that wasn't used as a weapon of war.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah, it's going to be. It's going to be bad. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Everything starts with a good intention. Like this is great. What a great invention. And then the next thing you know we're blowing up people in the Middle east with it going. It works. Dale Hellister is here right now. We got a lot to talk about today.

[Dale Elster]

Dale.

[John Holmberg]

Dale's brought to you by our friends at diamond coatings az.com and you can now see what they did to my sport court. It's awesome. Dale's at my house on Sunday and so it's pretty cool, right?

[Brady]

Did you hoop it up, Dale?

[Dale Elster]

The only thing I have a question about the who. Terrible. Well, come on. I, I walked out there and John did look like he was. He was playing right handed, but he's.

[John Holmberg]

Left handed basketball, been drinking all day.

[Dale Elster]

I mean, come on. I mean. Oh, he's making excuses. I mean, I, I felt bad for the backboard, the rim that was getting.

[John Holmberg]

Well, you know. You know what? That very be true because when he shot, he didn't hit either one. So he was taking it easy on him.

[Dale Elster]

But the one question from about four feet. And I was at my alma mater Samor a couple weeks ago on the basketball court. They had a little reunion and I'm like, is that hoop really 10ft mine? No. Well, that yours and this one. Because I've now seen two basketball hoops and I used to be an okay basketball player and it's like, I think that hoop's 11 foot tall.

[John Holmberg]

It feels like it's ever away. When we filmed the commercial for diamond coatings az, we did it on the court.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And, and I'm shooting, I'm hitting everything. They're like, oh, this can be great. So they said, the camera guy said, all right, I'm going to film you from behind. Just make a layup, turn around and go, hey, it's John Holberg. From seven layups I've clanked. I could not, for the better defense, stand behind me with a camera because I was useless. Like the ball's falling out of my hands. It's going. I'm like, why? I'm. I just did this like 25 times in a row. The second that camera rolled, I could not hit. I mean. And then we lowered the backboard to make it look like I dunked down to like seven and a half feet. And I still got a little step stool just in case I go ahead and stretched. So I'm like, yeah, I'll just hang off. I'm standing on this thing. So I mean, it's pretty obvious that's what it is when I'm standing there.

[Dale Elster]

But, but the court, it's awesome. Awesome.

[John Holmberg]

Thank you. Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

And it does come with other teams, right? Like, like they do a cowboys scene.

[John Holmberg]

They invented that for me.

[Dale Elster]

Okay.

[Brady]

They ordered mud hen if you want.

[John Holmberg]

If you want to do anything they can dream up, they did it. And I even said, let's get it like, you know, like it's tacky like you like to.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah. Well, that's what I wonder. When I first walked on, I said, does it have a little. It's what I used to be able to play.

[John Holmberg]

It's got some stick and cut. You're not sliding on it. What they did was incredible. And it's made up. Like they're like, we have all this material, let's see what we can do. And they came up with a color scheme. They put the Steeler stuff on it. It's so, it's so nice.

[Dale Elster]

It's gorgeous. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

So thank you. And diamond coatings. AZ did it all. And that was, you know, all I said was Steeler stuff. That's. It's dumb to have a basketball court with Steeler stuff on it. But I'm dumb and I want that. And they did it. You can do it with your kids pictures. You can do anything you want.

[Dale Elster]

See, that's what's crazy. Yes.

[John Holmberg]

And they can figure it out. It's awesome. And they do that UV stable stuff. The epoxy floor is. Arizona will not ruin it. So it's got years and years of life ahead of it.

[Brady]

Dale, you could do with the Jordan pose.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, put your head on Jordan.

[Dale Elster]

Stay above that six foot rim.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, man, I don't want to. Dale. Dale comes over and he's watching me and my friend Joe and J.D. we're just shooting. We're playing. By the way, did you see how I won the game?

[Dale Elster]

No, I, I, whoever won that game, playing pig. So I, because there's no way you guys didn't make any shots.

[John Holmberg]

I go back to the basket from 22ft. One hand. One hand. And, and Joe even goes, come on it.

[Dale Elster]

Boom. Well, that's probably better because when you're shooting face in the basket of one.

[John Holmberg]

Working, killing. That's how I won the game, Dale. I was crushing.

[Dale Elster]

Okay, so. So I go over to John's house. I go over there, what, maybe probably twice a year.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, a couple of games a year.

[Dale Elster]

You know, usually the prime times. Because I don't want to hang out with him Sunday mornings. I'm praying for him as, as the Sundays take off. But I show up. I, I like to do this because his band of merry men, they're all. Yes. And, and some very pretty girls.

[John Holmberg]

All right, your wife. Yeah, calm down. He likes Susie.

[Dale Elster]

Very friendly and all that. She's a cowboy, so.

[John Holmberg]

But she works with mentally challenged kids. So Dale comes over and she feels at home.

[Dale Elster]

But, and she makes a great Brownie.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, she does.

[Dale Elster]

I don't know what that means.

[John Holmberg]

I hope we're talking about the same thing.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah, but the Ravens send me a three games. They send me something every year. It was a hoodie. One year this year they sent me. What's that called? A beanie. And a regular, you know, golf cat.

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Dale Elster]

And so I. I come running. I walk it in. These guys just lose their mind.

[John Holmberg]

He's got his stupid Raven and he looks.

[Brett Vesely]

Looks like Lamar.

[Dale Elster]

Lamar.

[John Holmberg]

Lamar was the second ugliest Raven that day.

[Dale Elster]

I could get some grill.

[John Holmberg]

Dale even admitted it. He goes. He goes, I gotta take this off. I look so bad.

[Dale Elster]

I got about. I got about two minutes.

[John Holmberg]

I didn't ever think that Dale would reveal all of Dale. Once I'm like, that's better. Like, just like, covering it up is usually a good idea. Not with that Ravens being. It had nothing to do the Ravens. Just the way that things sat on your head. It was. I don't have a beanie head either. I look. I look very cancerous in one of those. I look really sick in a beanie.

[Dale Elster]

But that's something the Raven said me. A lot of people like that. You know, It's a high, high quality. Whatever. Anyway, yeah, so did that. They got jeered by all his knuckleheads. Booed you heavily. Well, I. I was gonna get to that, but a couple things. Like I said, I've probably been there two or three times over the last year and a half.

[John Holmberg]

I don't think they've won a game with you there.

[Dale Elster]

Yes, because you made me stay.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that's right. Because you left one earlier.

[Dale Elster]

That's right.

[John Holmberg]

You're right.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah. I left with the lead. They lost. It's my fault. Yep. And so I show up and I've come up two or three times now. One, I bought pizzas last year.

[John Holmberg]

That's true.

[Dale Elster]

Okay. And I only came two games.

[John Holmberg]

That's right.

[Dale Elster]

No, I bought them kicked in. Just stop with the kicking.

[John Holmberg]

He kicked him.

[Dale Elster]

He gave me the 20.

[Brett Vesely]

He didn't buy him.

[John Holmberg]

How much did he throw in? He.

[Dale Elster]

He paid. He paid me.

[John Holmberg]

All right. He paid a good amount.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah. Okay.

[John Holmberg]

He gave the minimum.

[Dale Elster]

Okay, so that's a perfect example. I brought a big bottle of the vodka that he likes.

[John Holmberg]

Yep.

[Dale Elster]

Not big enough. I brought flowers to his wife. Wow, that's a problem.

[Brett Vesely]

Well, he sounds like a great guest.

[Dick Toledo]

Actually.

[John Holmberg]

He's actually fine.

[Brett Vesely]

He's.

[Brady]

And I stick it.

[Dale Elster]

Guess what I said F. John Holberg.

[John Holmberg]

What?

[Dale Elster]

I'm just going to show up yeah. And guess what? He hasn't and moaned anything. I brainstorm. Except for I get busted. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

He's pouring all my alcohol into one of his cups and he goes, you.

[Dale Elster]

Got any 7Up Coke or anything? Come on. What kind of. What kind of bar?

[John Holmberg]

Somebody drank it all. We did. We had it and it was gone.

[Dale Elster]

And then the last thing I did have, mixers.

[John Holmberg]

I got you.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah, you did. You found it. Thank you. And the last thing I want to tell you, just. I don't think you even know this, John, is the fact that I just took that seat and evidently your wife was sitting next to that seat and your boy Chris on the other side. And boy, a lot of stupidity in that room.

[John Holmberg]

But that's the way to talk about.

[Dale Elster]

When I got to Chris. And so I sat down and your wife's very nice, very conversational. I started talking and whatever the show, podcast World came up, I said, do you listen to John? She's not really. But when I do listen, do the podcast, I like to listen to Thursday mornings when you.

[John Holmberg]

When you're on. Oh, that's very nice.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah, yeah. It's not a lie.

[Brady]

She was before that, she's like, what day do you guys do that?

[John Holmberg]

She saw you in that beanie and she thought maybe had like a day or two left to live and she better say nice things to this guy.

[Dale Elster]

And as I walked out, as John said, everybody booed me. I was just trying to get away because the stupidity was chasing me out the door and I could feel it. I could feel on my ass as I tried to get out the door. Boom, shut the door. I felt smarter.

[John Holmberg]

Let's get into a better talk about this. Dale's wife's dying to meet me.

[Dale Elster]

That did come up.

[John Holmberg]

Dale's wife is sick.

[Dale Elster]

I thought he forbid that.

[John Holmberg]

He's attempted to keep me away from her.

[Dale Elster]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

For reasons that we all realize other.

[Dale Elster]

For how long?

[John Holmberg]

Sexual.

[Dale Elster]

10 years?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, at least. Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

Okay. And. And. And I say, hey, I'm doing this with John or I'm golfing with John or. Yeah. And never, ever, ever has she ever said, well, can I meet John? You know.

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[Dale Elster]

But this Sunday? Yeah, it's a Sunday night. And she said, how come I don't get invited? I said, you. They're a bunch of idiots there. You wouldn't have any fun. She goes, are you. Are you not. Are you ashamed of introducing me?

[Brady]

There we go.

[Dale Elster]

I'm like, oh, my God. Now we're two steps away from this actually having to happen.

[John Holmberg]

Then he tells me.

[Dale Elster]

He goes, we go out to dinner or something.

[John Holmberg]

Can you behave like I will treat that bitch so nice.

[Dale Elster]

John and I. He's gonna flip Brooke off, and John and I get in a fist fight.

[John Holmberg]

And then she'll see, oh, a real man.

[Dale Elster]

And then we'll go home together.

[John Holmberg]

She's very curious about me.

[Dale Elster]

Dale, she threw that out.

[Brady]

So maybe by the end of the year, that'll be the last of Dale. She won't let you.

[John Holmberg]

Come on, I'd be such a gentleman.

[Brett Vesely]

She doesn't listen on Thursday mornings.

[Dale Elster]

She doesn't know what station.

[John Holmberg]

She doesn't even know about this. I am. I am his man mistress.

[Dale Elster]

What he. John's asked off air is. So what if she calls you and she needs to see you. There's an emergency. I'd say I'd be out of here so quick going back to my other.

[John Holmberg]

Studio because you're supposed to be at the other show right now. You lie to her about.

[Dale Elster]

Now that Dave Nash is part of our podcast. That's okay because she's Matt. Dave.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. But I am still some sort of weird.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You know that the wild cards that. That could turn her into an absolute sounds sex demon final Sounds like a great relationship.

[Brett Vesely]

And you have to lie to your wife.

[John Holmberg]

Exactly.

[Dale Elster]

Only thing I've lied to her about in my entire life.

[John Holmberg]

Wow.

[Dale Elster]

That's not true.

[John Holmberg]

You've lied. That's a lie too.

[Brady]

There's one thing.

[John Holmberg]

Garbage.

[Dale Elster]

That's the biggest thing.

[John Holmberg]

I'm the biggest lie in your life.

[Dale Elster]

My dead body. Will she ever be John Holmes? And here it is.

[John Holmberg]

Is that the biggest lie in his life is me.

[Dale Elster]

That's a lie too. That's big.

[John Holmberg]

Stop. Yeah. So I would. I'd be happy to meet her. She seems right. And your daughters are lovely.

[Dale Elster]

They.

[John Holmberg]

They've contacted me several times.

[Dale Elster]

Well, not several, but they. But they like you. They. They get a kick out of you, Brooks. A different breed.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know what that means.

[Dale Elster]

So. Well, that means that my daughter.

[John Holmberg]

She's got terrible taste, humor.

[Dale Elster]

So she's got great. She's got great eyes.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. She's beautiful woman.

[Dale Elster]

I don't know, 2020 vision and all that.

[John Holmberg]

So she's been hypnotized to like Brady.

[Dale Elster]

Why can't he just give me a compliment?

[John Holmberg]

I did. I said your wife is lovely, as far as I know. Well, yeah, of course. We all did.

[Dale Elster]

I would do. I. I'm.

[John Holmberg]

What?

[Dale Elster]

I'm. I'm kind of. I'm kind of. I'm kind of inching towards. I would do a double date.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know. I think it should just be me and you and her.

[Dale Elster]

That will never happen. I think just at first, the thrift. You know what?

[John Holmberg]

Maybe I'll just call Brooke and go. I know you've got some trepidations.

[Brady]

Why don't you guys, the three of you just go for like afternoon te.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Like a coffee or like. I know Brooke and I get reservations about me, but I just want to go out and just one on one. I'm no threat.

[Dale Elster]

Brooke go out?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

And then since Megan's so into me, Megan and I will go out.

[John Holmberg]

That's fine. Okay. And that's fine.

[Dale Elster]

But if she says, john, don't come home, then, well, what are you gonna do?

[John Holmberg]

What else is new? That's fine. I'll have a house with Brooke anyway. It'll be lovely.

[Dale Elster]

Not as nice as yours.

[John Holmberg]

Well, it's a nice house.

[Dale Elster]

And by the way, that basketball court would be changed. Changed?

[John Holmberg]

Turn into a gay course? Yeah, you turned it a Cowboys court.

[Dale Elster]

You're weird about your Steelers. You're weird. And you admit that?

[John Holmberg]

Very much. Okay, I got this, too. It says, morning. John wanted to say. This is from Adam. Martinez wanted to say, I really enjoy the sports thing podcast. Dale often mentions that he does another show, the Main Event. And because I liked your podcast, I decided to support Dale as well and give it a go. I didn't last 10 minutes. Boring. Atrocious. I like Dale, but, man, we got to get him on. Just with you now as he's tearing up your other podcast. I've never listened to it.

[Dale Elster]

So is Martinez one of these guys you picked up off the street?

[John Holmberg]

No, he's a random listener who emailed me and said, your bread's buttered with Johnny. And that's what Dale knows, or he wouldn't be doing this podcast.

[Dale Elster]

I enjoy your company, but I always see this white van outside of John's house when I go over there, and I think that he just send somebody down to Indian school. You come with me. You. I got a jerk for you. He's racist.

[Brady]

Picking up fans.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, there were a couple. I'll feed you. I'll feed you. I won't pay for it, but we.

[John Holmberg]

Had, like, 30 people there last night.

[Dale Elster]

A lot of people. Sunday night.

[John Holmberg]

Sunday night came and they knew I was coming, and they did not know it. But, yeah, it was a fun night. And I'm very excited about hanging out with your wife again. I mean, for the first time. That'll be fun for me and her.

[Dale Elster]

Maybe that's why I look so good. If you two have met before. That's why I look so. Look so good. No, that's why.

[John Holmberg]

That's why she wants to see me again. That's right. No, I've never met.

[Dale Elster]

She actually said, is this nose really that bad?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, come on. Then she is listening.

[Dale Elster]

Then she knows.

[John Holmberg]

Let's get to why you're here. Sports quickly. Suns are in action, and they are a frustrating mess. Last night, I didn't understand. I was at the game. And here's what I have to say about this. I think you and I have talked about this, but you have convinced me completely.

[Dale Elster]

This.

[John Holmberg]

This city just cannot have nice sports things. The Cardinals are a catastrophe. ASU lost last week and they're gonna lose this and they're gonna lose again. And it's like kind of that ugg where they're just the sun bowl again or something like that. They're going to El Paso or San Diego for one of those holiday bowls. And then. And then you got the Suns, and the Suns had their run and now they're down. I've said this a little bit before, but last night I watched it happen, and I'm like, yeah, I'm right about this. I. I have to be the person who questions whether or not Devin Booker cares about.

[Dale Elster]

See, I just said that on the main event an hour ago. I said, if they've got to get.

[John Holmberg]

Rid of him, they've got to get rid of him.

[Dale Elster]

He does not. He doesn't have fun playing basketball.

[John Holmberg]

It doesn't look like it.

[Dale Elster]

The only time I've seen him enjoy playing basketball is on the Olympic team. And when I watch him win, it doesn't matter if they're winning or they're losing. I'm.

[John Holmberg]

I'm rooting harder for him to have a championship than I think he is. Like, I'm like you. I'm. I want him to go and not because I don't like him. I think he's a great person. I think he's as fast, super nice. I met his family. He didn't even know that. I've met his family. I flew with his sister and his mom from here to la.

[Dale Elster]

You met everybody's family.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know. I don't know, but that just happens to me. I met his dad at a game, hanging out with him. And Kevin Ray is like a catalyst. Like, oh, that's Devin's mom. So I was with Kevin both times.

[Dale Elster]

Okay?

[John Holmberg]

So he just seems like a wonderful person. But the fact he resigned with this team and what I watched last night, when with four seconds left and down one, and he just chucks a ball.

[Dale Elster]

From 30 seconds, 39ft.

[John Holmberg]

And I'm like, there's four seconds left. Did he not see that?

[Dale Elster]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

And he's like, dad, what are you going to do? Lost to Memphis.

[Brady]

You've been late to stuff. Earlier stuff. Time.

[John Holmberg]

No, time out. You look up, you see four seconds. You played for 11 years, you might know. I got a couple more steps. I don't have to shoot from 40ft.

[Dale Elster]

Here's the thing that bothers me about it is most people are folks. Oh you need to keep that extra time out. Take all that time out and blah blah blah BS. Yeah. Make a play. Devin Booker. You're making $50 million a year. Make a play. And I'm so sick and tired of seeing him settling for 30 foot jump shots.

[John Holmberg]

Don't know what that is.

[Dale Elster]

It happened three years ago and be and earlier because they didn't have a whole lot of players.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

But you don't see Superstars settle for 30. You only needed a two.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

You're down by one point. You don't need to shoot 39 footer.

[John Holmberg]

Anything but what he did.

[Dale Elster]

And then the. The other thing is John, and I'm probably, I'm self admitting probably a little too hard on this body language. I can sit here and have a conversation with you. Yeah. You don't have to say anything. And I know you're flipping me off with your body.

[John Holmberg]

That'S constant again.

[Brady]

It's like one giant finger.

[John Holmberg]

It does look like a huge finger. It's not though.

[Dale Elster]

No. But I'm telling you like coach my kids it's got so Christian Academy over the last 20 years. I tell them you could be staring me not saying a word and I can tell you're. Yeah. Your body language. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Everybody knows that body language is a.

[Dale Elster]

Thing that has that body language. He doesn't have fun out there.

[John Holmberg]

It looks indifferent and it bothers me because I think on a better team he would be. But the fact he resigned here. No, tell me this. In your time of the Cowboys, a superstar like Troy Aikman or Michael Irvin sits through four years of 1 and 15, 3 and 12, 4 and 11. It's getting better. But it's not not getting better fast. Then you have a meteoric rise.

[Dale Elster]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Lose the super bowl the next two years, a little disappointing. Then it's like we got rid of everybody but you again. Is Michael Irvin staying for another rebuild? No, he's not staying for Devin Booker signed here going. I know we're starting over. He doesn't mind losing.

[Dale Elster]

But here's the thing that I also want to cast out there. The fact that he doesn't need to have a superstar to sit him down and go what the hell are you doing in our Cowboys locker room? You were susceptible to anybody coming up to you and Troy, Michael Emmett were treated the same way as Dale Elster, John Giesick and Kevin Gogan. You were called on the carpet. If you're being.

[John Holmberg]

If you're messing stuff up.

[Dale Elster]

Morning sickness.

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[Dale Elster]

Holmberg's morning sickness. And again off the field. You do whatever you want to do off the field, but if you show up Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday, that's all I care about. Especially Sunday.

[John Holmberg]

I watched you at the Steelers game last Sunday become that guy. When DK Metcalf shoved his finger in that guy, he went like, what are you doing? And we all thought it, but you could see it in Dale like this just somebody's got to get him.

[Dale Elster]

If Michael Irvin had done that, Eric Williams Larian would have had him pinned back and sat down in his face. And it doesn't make any sense.

[John Holmberg]

It's just so.

[Brady]

But Booker, signing is easy. I mean, if you were going to play in house games, where would you rather be? In Phoenix.

[Dale Elster]

Oh, right.

[John Holmberg]

But there's the point. Of course.

[Brett Vesely]

But you want to win, right? You want to win.

[John Holmberg]

You're making my point.

[Brett Vesely]

You're not going to do it.

[John Holmberg]

He's here for the resort.

[Dale Elster]

See, I think. No, I think he's trying to be tricky. And you know, the gambling and.

[Brady]

Oh yeah, the house games, the poker games.

[Dale Elster]

Read into Brady.

[John Holmberg]

I just, I didn't want to go that direction. He's not part of it.

[Brady]

You're right. The resort fact.

[John Holmberg]

But he's just here because he likes it here. That's not enough. He should be saying hey guys, I love my time here. It's not. He's not classless. And you just say hey, it's time for me to go someplace that's going to compete.

[Dale Elster]

But again, who's. Who wants him at $50 million?

[Dick Toledo]

Everybody.

[Dale Elster]

No.

[John Holmberg]

You give up six.

[Brady]

I don't think.

[John Holmberg]

Absolutely. That's ridiculous.

[Dale Elster]

Getting six picks. That's a homer. No, it is.

[John Holmberg]

All right, you get four. It's still better than nothing. You get four. There are several teams that will take Devon Booker and give you a couple of players off of their bench that just to make the money.

[Dale Elster]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

And some there are tons of. The Lakers would be one if they had a cap issue that but they couldn't. Tons of them. Tons of them that are sitting there chasing championships will say he's the guy and he is the guy that can put you over the top. He doesn't care. He signed a contract here to go. I'll stay here no matter if we win.

[Dale Elster]

Place of pine can doesn't count up there and.

[John Holmberg]

And you can't help but. But but say he just doesn't. It doesn't affect him.

[Dale Elster]

I mean as a scene does not seem to affect.

[John Holmberg]

Doesn't light a fire.

[Dale Elster]

I've seen him miss those game winning shots and I missed. I've missed one or two in. In my brief playing career. Yeah, it's devastating.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

You rest everybody's. You have an emotion. It drive me crazy.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

So again back to the whole the Valley.

[Brett Vesely]

What about Larry Fitzgerald staying here so long?

[John Holmberg]

Same thing. I said that years ago too. I'm like let him go. Let Shane Doan go trade these guys who have been so great for so long for your franchise and say we can't get you there but we want to see you do it. They did it with the Boston Bruins and Ray Bork. They had a good buy in his last game in Boston. Knowing the trade deadline. You're not going to be here.

[Dale Elster]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

And we didn't get you a title but go get one. And he got one in Colorado when there were Bruins fans happy.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Because you would be if your team can't get over the hump. Your superstars deserve a shot.

[Dale Elster]

But please while however long I know you guys do not put Larry Fitzgerald and Devin Booker. No.

[John Holmberg]

You know what though? In a way he signed to except for it seemed at the time the Cardinals were actually potentially able with Carson Palmer and all that. So it made sense for him to sign. But then at the end when he's just John Skelton and Kevin Cobb and God knows who else career.

[Dale Elster]

And guess what? He's out for the hall of Fame this year. His name just. He should be. He should be a first ballot guy. Yeah. But his name just kind of has. He's a second leading receiver in the history of the National Football League. And his name never comes up when you talk about the top five and receivers in the history.

[John Holmberg]

And because he never had that connection. He had 31 quarterbacks throwing to him. He made magic with everybody. But, you know, Montana and Rice, Aikman, Irvin, you have all those. Bradshaw, Swan, you had all those, these combos. Fitzgerald and who? Kurt Warner. For a minute.

[Dale Elster]

For a minute.

[John Holmberg]

And I never did anything essentially.

[Dale Elster]

Well, you got to Super Bowl.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Got there.

[Dale Elster]

I know you had a chance under Bruce Arians. Yeah. Anyway, it's. It's frustrating to be a Valley fan, and unfortunately, I've been around here the longest. Maybe I'm the only one that was alive when this happened. Sons came here. I don't know, 1960.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. I wasn't alive yet. That's insane. Yeah, yeah, you were around.

[Dale Elster]

So I saw. Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Back in this Podunk town. The podcast last week, we also mentioned that. I said, kim, Scatteraboo's career is not going to be long if he keeps doing what he's doing. I know, and I feel a little bit bad about that. I text Cam over the weekend and.

[Dale Elster]

Told him you're sorry for jinxing him.

[John Holmberg]

No. Yeah, I just told him. I said, you know, you're a legend. This whole city, everybody's New York. Everybody's like, you were. You're a legend. Like, you know, keep your head up. You're gonna be all right. Sorry, you're dealing with us. And he was, you know, nice little text back, but we kind of accidentally called that me.

[Dale Elster]

You're the mush.

[John Holmberg]

And you said Sunday night that you have had that dislocated foot.

[Dale Elster]

I've had the exact same thing. And I've told anybody who's asked, yeah, I completely dislocated my ankle. Well, along with that, 98% of the time comes a fractured fibula. And so I still got a plate on my fibula. And they went in and I was in surgery in about two hours. They took me from the stadium to the hospital. Obviously my upper torso had my pads off.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

It wasn't to the zoo.

[Dale Elster]

And then cut my football pants off, but they put a, A, a screw about yay big through my, into my ankle and a plate on my leg. Oh, and the plates on the, the it's on the fibula. It's on the outside holding that thing up. And now that I've, you know.

[John Holmberg]

Was your foot facing the wrong way too?

[Dale Elster]

What happened to me? It's interesting. Oh, okay. So I'm gonna throw. I, I, I, I. You watch pimple pop.

[John Holmberg]

I know, but I don't like fearing about it. I'd rather watch it than hear it.

[Dale Elster]

I stepped down. It was a natural grass field step. Guy did an outside move on me. I went to move. Everything moved but my left foot.

[Mo]

Oh.

[Dale Elster]

And so I got kind of spun around and I went down. I'm like, damn, that hurts. And I didn't think anything like it was catastrophic, but I couldn't get up. And trainers doctors come out and took my shoe off. And then when they cut the tape off.

[Mo]

Off.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

The two little bones on each side of your ankle.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

Went.

[John Holmberg]

They just moved out. Oh. The tape was holding it in and.

[Dale Elster]

It fell like two inches. And I'm looking at the doctors and their faces are turning white. I'm like, that's not good, is it? They didn't say anything. Both of them are holding it. Air cast. Boom. Gone. Yeah, but, but I told her because originally they, I didn't talk about the fibula.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

But I was told when it happened to me, the fibula is affected a lot.

[Brady]

How long were you out?

[Dale Elster]

I missed the season.

[John Holmberg]

Whole season.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah. But pardon me.

[John Holmberg]

Recovery was 12 months.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah. I think you'll be ready in nine.

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Dale Elster]

I, I, obviously I, I missed the football season, but I started working out the next off season. But obviously he plays a different position than I do. It's a matter of trusting it now. Can I stick it in the ground?

[John Holmberg]

It's going to take, it's going to take a minute. Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

Before.

[John Holmberg]

You don't want to twist that thing all the way around again. I've had ankle issues my whole adult life because of busted them so much when I was playing basketball as a kid and my ankle used to just fall off. Like it was, it had this weird thing where I take it wrong. So I used to wear high tops everywhere. If I didn't my, it would just kind of pop open and I'd have to kind of wiggle it and we snap back in. It didn't feel good, but it didn't. Like it wasn't stopping me. But yeah, it would just like it, it was just weird.

[Dale Elster]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

And I could, I could detach it it and I could take my toes and just grind them and then my ankle would go clunk. And the whole foot was useless for a minute. So. So I don't even know what I should have gone and gotten fixed.

[Dale Elster]

Tightening your ligaments.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I feel pretty good now.

[Dale Elster]

That's what.

[John Holmberg]

That's what the doctor said. You just loosened everything up with all these sprains.

[Dale Elster]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Whatever you do, you do. But it's better now. So time. That's what I told.

[Dale Elster]

A little bit has to do. Cam will be fine.

[Brady]

So it would have been better if it broke then dislocated. Because I've been hearing back and forth like a dislocation is a quicker recovery.

[Dale Elster]

The dislocation depends on the leg. All my ligaments were gone when. When. When my ankle got.

[Brady]

So then.

[John Holmberg]

That's.

[Brady]

That's right. That was the key, I think they're saying.

[Dale Elster]

And so hopefully it's less severe for him.

[Brady]

Yeah. And doesn't look like it.

[Dale Elster]

No. All right.

[John Holmberg]

We're gonna get our picks in here. Scatter will be fine.

[Dale Elster]

World series is just what it is.

[John Holmberg]

It's pretty fun. 18.

[Dale Elster]

It is what it is. It's a great world series, but it's a lot of. Don't tell me you're cheering for the Dodgers.

[John Holmberg]

Country music has ruined it has moved.

[Dale Elster]

Ruined the world series.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. Brad Paisley.

[Dale Elster]

Oh, I know.

[John Holmberg]

I read that has ruined it.

[Dale Elster]

Too long as world series.

[John Holmberg]

And the other two times he sang the national anthem. Those went to extra innings too.

[Dale Elster]

Really?

[John Holmberg]

He's done it four times every.

[Dale Elster]

Exactly.

[John Holmberg]

Although that game was incredible. Yeah.

[Dale Elster]

World series.

[John Holmberg]

But I don't want to talk about that till it's over.

[Dale Elster]

Did you watch the whole thing? I watched for the whole.

[John Holmberg]

I watched. Watched every pitch of that game. I wanted to go to bed and I didn't. I stayed up till midnight.

[Dale Elster]

It's fascinating and I think fox does a great job. Yeah. Of showing us you can hear the umpire. Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Just seven hours is a lot of baseball. That was a lot.

[Dale Elster]

I'm just calling everything. If I'm not home plate umpire, everything's a strike.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I'm getting out of there. Yeah. You're all going to swing the bat. And if I'm a pitcher, I'm throwing it anywhere. And I'm hoping Enrico Palazzo calls everything a strike. We got ourselves Dale hell here from diamond wind coatings. Az. That's right. That's what you're sponsored by. And gets your whole garage floor. Any pavers you got at your house. If you've got a floor. They can make it beautiful. They did it to my sport court. It's amazing. Check it out. @98kupd.com we'll look there. We're gonna get our football picks in here.

[Dale Elster]

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[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

I'm sure they are, Larry.

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[John Holmberg]

All right, There you go. It's nine. Morning sickness.

[Dale Elster]

Time flies.

[John Holmberg]

It is flying Dale. Flying. Let's get right to it.

[Dale Elster]

Hold on. Who am I brought to you by?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Dale Elster]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

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[Dale Elster]

What a professional.

[John Holmberg]

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[Dale Elster]

What are those pictures of your house coming out?

[John Holmberg]

It should be on the. It should be all over the Internet.

[Dale Elster]

The video. It's not all all over that. People are losing their mind.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I mean. Is there more Internet than that? I have never noticed. It's time now for our football picks. And of course, Brady and Brett, you are head to head this week with the Bengals and Bears. Last week, all of us lost our bets.

[Brett Vesely]

We all mushed.

[John Holmberg]

All four of us blew it weeks prior.

[Dale Elster]

Okay, hold on. Should we add one more caveat?

[John Holmberg]

What's that?

[Dale Elster]

If one guy wins and the other three loses he gets paid.

[John Holmberg]

I like that. Everybody kicks the 33 to the. That guy.

[Dale Elster]

Okay.

[John Holmberg]

I like that. There's one winner.

[Dale Elster]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Out of the four. Cuz the chances of that happening are just. But all four of us losing.

[Dale Elster]

We all suck.

[John Holmberg]

We sucked. Well, that was my first loss of the season. I felt really.

[Dale Elster]

We all sucked.

[John Holmberg]

Stop it, Brady. I'm gonna let you pick the Bengals and Colts game first.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, Bears.

[John Holmberg]

No, Bears. I'm sorry. I'm thinking of my team. Bengals and Bears.

[Brady]

Cincinny.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. Joe Flacco's got something wrong with him.

[Brady]

Three and a half.

[Dale Elster]

I told you Flacco would have one good game.

[John Holmberg]

He's had two and then he got a little bit dinged. He's hurt.

[Brady]

Put up 38 points.

[John Holmberg]

He's hurt against the Jets. Go ahead. Pick a team and go.

[Brady]

I'm going with the Bangles.

[John Holmberg]

All right, let's go straight up. Bangles.

[Dick Toledo]

Whoa.

[Brett Vesely]

Then I get to go straight up or you still want me to make.

[John Holmberg]

No, you have to make a. Like a.

[Brady]

Why?

[Brett Vesely]

If I'm gonna go opposite him. Shouldn't matter.

[John Holmberg]

Oh yeah. You can't bet that twice. Can't bet each team to win. Win.

[Brett Vesely]

Taking the Bears to win. He's to win.

[John Holmberg]

Well, I can't put that. That's stupid. Like who?

[Brett Vesely]

I'll take the Bears minus three.

[John Holmberg]

No, no. See, you have to take a prop bet. We already picked the team.

[Brett Vesely]

Well then come back to me later because I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

[John Holmberg]

Well, we've always done.

[Brett Vesely]

But I've never done prop bets.

[John Holmberg]

I always take the.

[Brett Vesely]

I never do.

[John Holmberg]

All right, he'll take the prop bet, you take the Bears. Jesus Christ. This is too hard.

[Dale Elster]

I always just take it straight up.

[Brady]

Anytime. Touchdown.

[Dale Elster]

But if you choose. Okay, one of you is going to lose. True.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Dale Elster]

That means we all lose now.

[John Holmberg]

We can't. We. If you go side to side, our four man bet is screwed no matter what the heels is.33 bucks for not even thinking about that. If Dale has to explain the math to you.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh man.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Go kill yourself.

[Dale Elster]

All right.

[John Holmberg]

And you have to do an anytime Touchdown. Score. You want Jamar Chase?

[Dale Elster]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. That's pretty good. Dale, who you Cowboys have this week.

[Brady]

Then Brett's taking the Bears.

[Dale Elster]

They got the Cardinals on Monday night.

[John Holmberg]

That's right. It's Monday night against the Cardinals.

[Dale Elster]

Cardinals coming off a bye week, rested, healthy. I was back in the lineup.

[John Holmberg]

You're taking the Cowboys. Crowd's gonna be all Dallas.

[Dale Elster]

I. I gotta I gotta take the Cowboys.

[John Holmberg]

I think that's the smart.

[Dale Elster]

It's. Even though Kyler Murray's undefeated in the. In Jerry's world. Do you know that Johnny high school did not know.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that's right. Because he was down there. That's right.

[Dale Elster]

High school, college, NFL.

[John Holmberg]

It's interesting. This will be the first time you're saying the Cowboys beat Kyler Murray. Oh, boy. All right, I'll take that one. Steelers take. Take on the Colts. I'm going to take the Colts. That's a better team. That's a team that's absolutely nearly unstoppable. And the Steelers defense is so confused, it's hard to watch. So I think this one, if anything, I'd take the over. It's only 50 points. I think the. I think Indy might put 40 on them because that defense is awesome.

[Brett Vesely]

Defense is that bad?

[John Holmberg]

Terrible. Right now they're confused. I watched the all 22 of that.

[Dale Elster]

Is it not amazing? Here's. Here's Danny Dimensions, who's now Indiana Jones.

[John Holmberg]

That's right.

[Dale Elster]

And can't throw a ball to a wet paper set through a wet paper sack in New York. Now he goes to Indianapolis like he's gonna be a Pro Bowler this year.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he might be the MVP.

[Dale Elster]

They might win 12 games this year.

[John Holmberg]

They might have the one and two and most valuable player because Taylor's just as good. Yeah, they're. They're good. Who knew? They're a good team.

[Dale Elster]

The offensive line is pretty solid.

[John Holmberg]

Everything about them is playing well. So I'm taking the Colts in a big way and I take the over on that as well as well. All right, we got that. And now we put our 100 bucks on it. It is a. It's a plus. Whoa. 5300. That can't be right. 2300. Sorry. I got seven of them in there.

[Dale Elster]

There you go.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's a good one. I like that.

[Dale Elster]

So what does that mean?

[John Holmberg]

So that means they're 100 bucks. We get 2300. That's pretty good stuff right there.

[Dale Elster]

How do you split it four ways, though?

[John Holmberg]

With math, Dale.

[Brady]

That's easy.

[Dale Elster]

2300. I don't want change. Johnny want screwed up here.

[John Holmberg]

We'll figure it out. It'll be something. We'll win something. Let's just put it that way. I'll get it in there.

[Dale Elster]

But we haven't won yet this year.

[John Holmberg]

No, I've won all the bets.

[Dale Elster]

You didn't win last.

[John Holmberg]

We didn't win. Well, we kind of won the one you tied yeah, we all got paid on that. Well, the three of us. Yeah, they all got to sit out on that garbage.

[Dale Elster]

Amazing how everything stacked against me. Brady. The world has never been fair to.

[John Holmberg]

Dale Hellish, host of the main event.

[Dale Elster]

With Steve McColl which is the C.

[John Holmberg]

Tier level show that everybody's talking about. The sports, that sports thing. John Holmberg podcast.

[Dale Elster]

Did the blind guy ever text rock fellow?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he's fired off a couple, couple of gems. We'll get to that on the cast. It's good. And you can listen later today to the John Holberg podcast featuring permanent guest Dale Hell straight and the of the rest. Pretty good stuff.

[Dale Elster]

This idiot says, I don't really want anything to do with it. I'll just be a guest host. And now it's all turned into the.

[John Holmberg]

John H. Well, it naturally it just kind of turned itself into that. No one else was taking the reign, so might as well do it. It turned out to be pretty damn good. It's not weird. It's pretty cool actually.

[Brady]

No membership fee.

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