Episode Overview
Holmberg's Morning Sickness invites former Dallas Cowboys lineman Dale Hellestrae for their regular “Thursdays with Dale” segment. This episode covers the Phoenix Suns’ frustrating start to the NBA season, Dale’s comedic misadventures as a houseguest at John Holmberg's, playful banter about family and fandom, and, as always, spirited picks and debates for NFL Week 9. The episode balances strong sports analysis with the show’s trademark sarcasm, storytelling, and locker-room humor.
Key Discussion Points
1. Dale’s Visit to Holmberg’s House: Booed Out & Banter (01:11–10:00)
- The show opens with John, Dale, Brady, Brett, and Toledo exchanging jabs about Dale's visit to John’s house on Sunday for a football game get-together.
- Dale comments on John's custom basketball court (“awesome” but jokes he’s “not sliding on it” and pokes fun at the Steeler-themed décor).
- Tension and laughter escalate regarding Dale's athleticism versus John's (03:02–03:54).
- Dale describes arriving wearing Ravens swag (to the horror of Steelers fans in the room), immediately earning jeers and getting “booed out” by John and friends (06:32–07:11).
- Dale insists he’s a gracious guest—despite the crowd’s reaction:
"I brought a big bottle of the vodka that he likes. ... I brought flowers to his wife." — Dale (08:16)
- The segment degenerates humorously into the group arguing over who owes money for pizza and whose house etiquette is worse.
Notable Moments and Quotes:
- "[After] Dale comes over and she feels at home." — John on Dale’s wife working with special needs kids (06:07)
- "I just took that seat and evidently your wife was sitting next to that seat and your boy, Chris, on the other side. And boy, a lot of stupidity in that room." — Dale (08:54)
- "When I got to Chris...the stupidity was chasing me out the door and I could feel it. I could feel it on my ass as I tried to get out the door...I felt smarter [after I left]." — Dale (09:43)
2. The Great "Meet Dale’s Wife" Capers (10:03–15:44)
- Hilarious speculation about why John hasn’t met Dale’s wife after years of friendship.
- Dale’s wife expresses curiosity (12:19), leading to a comical but oddly threatening sequence about what might happen if they did meet.
- "I'm the biggest lie in your life." — John (14:08)
- Banter about a “double date” and who would get whose wife, culminating in light-hearted threats of property and marital swaps (“That basketball court would be changed...turned into a Cowboys court”).
- Tone: Sarcastic, self-deprecating, and (almost) sitcom-like.
3. Phoenix Suns Frustration & The ‘Booker Problem’ (17:25–26:51)
- John laments (from firsthand experience at the game) the Suns’ inability to “have nice sports things” (17:39), referencing another demoralizing loss.
- The focus quickly zeroes in on Devin Booker’s attitude and late-game decisions:
"I've got to be the person who questions whether or not Devin Booker cares about [winning]." — John (17:36)
"He doesn't have fun playing basketball." — Dale (18:18) - Both agree Booker’s body language and tendency to bail out on big moments is worrying, punctuated by his choice to take a desperation 39-foot shot with several seconds left:
"Devin Booker, you're making $50 million a year. Make a play. And I'm so sick and tired of seeing him settling for 30-foot jump shots." — Dale (19:31)
- They wonder if Booker is just too comfortable in Phoenix and whether the franchise should move on from him if his commitment wanes (21:10–21:25).
- Comparison to the long-suffering Larry Fitzgerald and Shane Doan, Valley stars who stayed loyal but never won a title, with John suggesting a trade might be the noble move for all (26:07).
Notable Quotes:
- "This city just cannot have nice sports things. The Cardinals are a catastrophe. ASU lost last week, and they're gonna lose again..." — John (17:39)
- "Your superstars deserve a shot...but please, do not put Larry Fitzgerald and Devin Booker [in the same category]." — Dale (26:07)
4. On Injuries, Cam Scadaboo, and Football War Stories (27:29–31:43)
- John admits to being a “mush” (bad-luck fan) after ASU standout Cam Skattebo’s season-ending injury, which he accidentally predicted on the previous episode.
- Dale details his own identical injury (“completely dislocated my ankle ... 98% of the time comes a fractured fibula”), providing grim but honest insight about recovery (~28:07–29:46).
- Cam’s recovery prospects are weighed; Dale says nine months is optimistic, depending on how much ligament damage occurred.
- Both reflect on the psychological adjustment after catastrophic injuries.
Notable Quotes:
- "All my ligaments were gone when my ankle got dislocated." — Dale (31:16)
5. NFL Week 9: Picks, Jokes, and Betting Chaos (34:19–39:18)
- Dale, John, Brett, and Brady argue (and bungle) through their weekly NFL picks and side-bets.
- Bengals/Bears, Cowboys/Cardinals, and Colts/Steelers are the games of focus, with some confusion over prop bets and payout math.
- As usual, the betting discussion turns into a comic farce about who’s winning, what the rules are, and how badly everyone is performing.
- “If Dale has to explain the math to you...” — John, roasting Brett about bet logistics. (36:49)
6. Odds and Ends: Listener Email & Show Dynamics (16:26; 39:26–40:00)
- John shares an email from a listener who couldn’t tolerate Dale’s other podcast for more than 10 minutes, which triggers more group ribbing.
- Humorous self-awareness as Dale jabs at his own “C-tier” podcast and John embraces his “man mistress” role as Dale’s true radio soulmate.
- The camaraderie and “roast everybody” spirit rounds out the show.
Timestamps for Key Segments
| Time | Segment | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------| | 01:11–10:00 | Dale’s house visit fiasco & friendly abuse | | 10:03–15:44 | Joking about John meeting Dale’s wife & family banter | | 17:25–26:51 | Phoenix Suns postmortem & the Devin Booker discussion | | 27:29–31:43 | Cam Scadaboo injury & Dale’s NFL injury recollections | | 34:19–39:18 | Weekly NFL picks & comedic chaos over betting | | 16:26 | Listener feedback about Dale’s "other" podcast | | 39:26–40:00 | Closing show banter & signoff |
Tone & Style Observations
- Language & Tone: Sarcastic, quick-witted, irreverent, with gruff affection and local flavor. Even sports talk is tinged with self-mockery.
- Style: Conversational, story-driven, heavy on teasing, “locker room” humor, but ultimately sports-nut insightful.
Memorable Quotes (with Attribution & Time)
- “This city just cannot have nice sports things. The Cardinals are a catastrophe…”
— John Holmberg (17:39) - “He doesn't have fun playing basketball...the only time I've seen him enjoy it was the Olympics.”
— Dale Hellestrae (18:18) - “I’m the biggest lie in your life.”
— John Holmberg (14:08) - “I brought a big bottle of the vodka that he likes. … I brought flowers to his wife.”
— Dale Hellestrae (08:16) - “Devin Booker, you're making $50 million a year. Make a play. And I'm so sick and tired of seeing him settling for 30-foot jump shots.”
— Dale Hellestrae (19:31) - “If Dale has to explain the math to you...”
— John Holmberg (36:49)
Conclusion
This episode is a prime slice of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness: raucous, family-like sports radio that mixes local Phoenix fandom, genuine sports frustration, sharp wit, and the kind of ribbing that only happens among old friends. Whether you’re in it for sports insight or the banter, the show delivers both in heavy doses.
