Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness — 11-05-25

Podcast: Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona
Date: November 5, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg (A), Brady Bogen (B), Bret Vesely (C), Dick Toledo (D)

Overview

This episode revolves around two major themes: the decline of the traditional car-buying experience and a candid, comedic debate about Tom Brady’s public admission of cloning his dog—featuring wild riffs on cloning, ego, and the ethics of duplicating oneself (for everything from athletic skill to "kissing knowledge"). The conversation is sharp and full of humorous banter, touching on nostalgia, technology, and the quirks of celebrity culture.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Modern Car-Buying "Letdown" Experience (02:30–18:40)

• Car Shopping Has Changed:
  John visits multiple dealerships and finds the process unexpectedly impersonal and inventory bare. Salespeople point him to online ordering instead of offering vehicles on-site.

  • "You get to the deal... and they have the display ones ... 'do you have anything else?' 'No, we can go online and order it.' And I'm like, well, so can I. Why am I here?" – John (03:00)

• Dealerships Are Just a Middleman Now:
  Sales staff admit they no longer have much inventory power, while the idea of immediate purchase is gone.

  • "We used to be able to move cars like crazy... We have to go to a second lot and look at all this other stuff." – unnamed salesperson (paraphrased by John) (04:50)

• Disappointment with Model and Color Selection:
  Most available cars are base models or undesirable colors (notably, “puke brown”). If you want specific trims or colors, it’s months of waiting.

  • “So many people are driving puke brown cars because it was the one on the lot, and they needed a car.” – John (15:55)

• Nostalgia for the Sales "Game":
  John reminisces about when negotiation was part of the experience and when dealers fought to make a sale:

  • “Remember when leaving the car lot caused multiple people to come and find you?” – Brady (14:12)
  • “My dad used to hate car dealers. ... He felt the need to explode to make the guy so afraid.” – John (18:43)

• Financing Quirks and Tricks:
  John discusses odd incentives to finance, even when he preferred paying cash.

  • “The last guy talked me into ... if you could finance for a couple months and then pay it off, I get extra money... What are you doing for me on that?” – John (17:13)

Memorable Quote

• "I'm basically the Toyota Corolla of making out. ... You're not gonna remember me. But when you park it, you're like, 'I don't want to own one of these, but that's a pretty nice car that basically got me here.'" – John (42:58)

2. Tom Brady, Dog Cloning, and the Weirdness of Copying Yourself (24:59–50:46)

• Tom Brady Clones His Dog:
  Discussion pivots sharply as John reveals that Tom Brady publicly admitted to cloning his beloved dog Lua.

  • “Tom Brady is confirmed the weirdest mother effer on the planet... he’s a eugenics Hitler is what he is.” – John (24:59)

• Ethical and Existential Cloning Questions:
  The crew debates whether cloning pets—or even humans—is ethical or creepy, referencing pop culture (Pet Semetary, Jurassic Park) and real-life cloning businesses.

  • “Cloning your pets is flat out wrong. ... That is mad scientist nonsense, that you don’t want—that Dr. Moreau kind of stuff.” – John (28:27)
  • “It has its own experiences and its own things. Sometimes they're not wired right through cloning...” – Cloning expert, paraphrased by John (28:10)

• Would You Clone Yourself—For the Kissing Knowledge?
  A long, comedic riff ensues about the hypothetical: If you cloned yourself, would you kiss yourself (or more)? The crew banters about ego, technique, and what it would feel like to be both the kisser and the kissed.

  • “If you built another me, it would be dangerous because that's the only person I'd want to hang out with... He’d know exactly the tenderness of the kiss that I need. He’d be perfect.” – John (34:31)
  • “Would you clone yourself?” – John, provoking the crew (50:25)

• Tom Brady’s Motivation and the Fear of a "Brady Army":
  John speculates, only half-joking, that Brady is testing cloning on his dog to pave the way for creating more Bradys—whether for football legacy or personal pleasure.

  • “There's no way he didn't look into this with the people rebuilding... Tom Brady rang them up and said, can you do my puppy? And they said yes. Which means Tom Brady's brain isn't going to sit back and say, what about me?” – John (46:10)
  • “Imagine an army of Tom Bradys. That insufferable amount of ego coming at you and cheating...” – John (47:17)

• Further Tangents: Celebrity Kissing Techniques
  The group humorously assesses coworkers' and celebrities' likely kissing abilities just based on their lips, speech or demeanor.

  • “Larry would be horrible—Larry’s mouth would be way too wide open.” – John (37:03)
  • “I'm gonna go down and take a gander. ... It’s work, you’re not supposed to stare at people’s mouths and go, ‘Would I make out?’” – John (41:10)

Notable Quotes

• “If clone Brady came in, you’d immediately be like, I wonder what…” – John (34:51)
• “You can tell by somebody’s mouth whether or not they’re a good kisser.” – John (45:46)
• “Don’t think there isn’t a Tom Brady in some sort of weird gelatinous fluid in a big tube ... waiting to be broken out.” – John, on possible Brady clones (45:53)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On dealerships becoming obsolete:
  • "Why do I leave the house? If you don't have the inventory and we're both going to the internet at the end of this? I'm an idiot." – John (09:11)
• On Tom Brady as a ‘mad scientist’:
  • "That's mad. That's the bad guy in a Bond movie would say something like that." – John (30:32)
• On self-cloning curiosity:
  • "You’d have to know. And what if you found out, man, I'm pretty good kisser?" – John (35:10)
• On office “kissing power ranking”:
  • "Fitz has a good... He uses his mouth well, like, it’s—he's—you probably are all right. You got a nice shape on that thing." – John (36:28)

Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Segment | |:----------:|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:30–18:40| Modern dealership experience & car buying frustrations | | 18:42–22:38| Nostalgia for car-sales "games," and John’s dad vs. salesmen | | 24:59–31:44| Tom Brady’s dog cloning, ethics of pet cloning, and company news | | 33:06–38:59| Would you clone yourself? Hypotheticals about "kissing yourself" | | 38:59–44:36| Playful rankings of coworkers’ kissing prowess | | 46:31–50:46| Cloning in pop culture; fears of “Brady Army”; self-awareness |

Conclusion

This episode offers a sharp, comedic—but occasionally earnest—reflection on how technology and changing attitudes have stripped rituals (like car buying) of their old thrill, alongside a wildly entertaining exchange on celebrity ego, science, and the unimaginable future of cloning ourselves (and what weird knowledge about ourselves we’d pursue if we did). Thanks to the hosts' quick wit, everyone from car dealers to Tom Brady gets roasted, and even the weirdest questions—“Would you kiss your clone?”—are addressed with the full force of the Morning Sickness team’s irreverent humor.