11-06-25 - Thursdays w/Former Dallas Cowboy OLineman Dale Hellestrae - Thoughts On The Matt Kalil Divorce Bombshell And QB Competitions - What Do Cards Do w/Kyler Murray - Picks For NFL Week 10 Games

Summary

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Holmberg's Morning Sickness – November 6, 2025

Thursdays w/ Former Dallas Cowboy OLineman Dale Hellestrae: Kalil Divorce Bombshell, Cardinals’ Kyler Murray Saga, NFL Week 10 Picks & More

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Overview

This episode of "Holmberg's Morning Sickness" features the regular Thursday segment with former Dallas Cowboys offensive lineman Dale Hellestrae. The crew—John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, and Dick Toledo—tackles the jaw-dropping Matt Kalil divorce story, scrutinizes the Dallas Cowboys’ soft culture, dives into the Arizona Cardinals’ drama with Kyler Murray, and closes out with their sports gambling picks for NFL Week 10. The show is its signature irreverent self, mixing locker room stories and sports analysis with plenty of friendly mockery.

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Main Topics & Discussion Points

1. The Matt Kalil Divorce Bombshell

(05:26 – 08:54)

• What Happened:
  The show opens with incredulity over the viral podcast interview by Matt Kalil’s ex-wife, in which she claims the couple’s sex life broke apart because “his penis was like three Coke cans stacked on top of each other.”

  • John Holmberg jokes: “Is that the greatest divorce you’ve ever heard in your life?” (06:17)
  • The ex-wife allegedly even considered liposuction for “relief.” The studio erupts in laughter and disbelief.

• Locker Room Comparisons:
  Dale and John riff on infamous well-endowed athletes, including Michael Irvin and Sam Cassell, sharing locker room stories about the awkwardness and bravado.

  • Dale: “There are four guys in here that I can promise you will never, ever, ever have that issue.” (06:45)
  • John, deadpan: “Saying the words ‘it was uncomfortable having sex with him’ might happen, but not for the same reason, right?” (06:51)

• Memorable Anecdote:
  Dale segues to a clean but hilarious story about his young grandson comparing their “wieners,” which the show’s hosts use as further comic fodder.

  • Dale, quoting his grandson: “‘My wiener’s bigger than yours, Papa.’” (08:45)

Tone: Extremely irreverent, full of ribbing, with a mix of honest male vulnerability.

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2. Locker Room Culture: Nudity, Confidence, and Athletes

(08:54 – 14:37)

• Awkwardness & Norms:
  John and Dale discuss the weirdness of grown men being naked together in athletic settings—a contrast to real life—and the odd intimidation/social hierarchy that ensues.

  • Dale: “Isn’t that a weird concept? Just grown dudes walking around naked, taking a shower in a big, big giant one…” (12:07).
  • John: “It’s the least normal thing in the world. And it’s everything you try to avoid in everyday life.” (12:28)

• Observation:
  The segment draws laughs but lands a point about athletes' body image—referencing Kevin Durant’s comments on body insecurity.

Tone: Comedy with a small undercurrent of real talk about masculinity and body image.

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3. Dallas Cowboys Culture: Has Swag Killed Grit?

(14:38 – 20:44)

• Cowboys’ Softness & Ownership Issues:
  John points out the lack of accountability after a notably embarrassing loss to the Cardinals. High-fiving after bad plays and laughing on the sidelines are behaviors scrutinized.

  • Holmberg, exasperated: “Your high-powered offense…They’re on the sidelines laughing, and you’re down 24-something to the Cardinals who are in complete shambles…Is that coaching or do you just have to clean house?” (15:12)

• Dale's Take:

  • Ownership (Jerry Jones) sets a “no accountability” tone. The team’s plush facilities and star-treatment separate them from gritty, tough football.
    • Dale: “Nothing speaks football…You walk through a stinking bar [to the field]! And get treated like a superstar.” (17:22)
    • “No one’s held accountable. In the 90s, someone would have you up against a locker.” (17:47)

• Proposed Fix:
  John proposes a “seven-year rule”—if an owner doesn’t make the playoffs in that time, they’re forced to sell. Both hosts agree the league has become too friendly to passive, rich owners.

  • John: “Every seven years, if your team has not made the playoffs, the league forces you to sell…You’re giving back because the fans are the ones who are getting screwed.” (18:21)
  • Dale: “You wonder if somebody put that into the rulebook, just how serious Jerry would become.” (18:49)

Tone: Critical, nostalgic, and clearly frustrated—especially from Dale and John.

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4. Arizona Cardinals & Kyler Murray: Benching or IR Drama?

(21:02 – 28:37)

• The Situation:
  Kyler Murray, once the Cardinals’ star, has now been placed on IR despite appearing ready to play. The hosts see this as a “soft benching” linked either to internal issues or failed trade attempts.

  • John: “The Cardinals have now taken a guy who almost started Monday and placed him on IR. Which tells me two things: There’s a problem inside…Or they tried to ship him, there were no bites, and they had to come back and say, Kyler, you’re not playing.” (21:28)
  • Dale: “You’ve seen Kyler Murray for the last time unless all hell breaks loose.” (26:55)

• Comparisons to Cowboys Quarterback Situations:
  Dale shares his own Dallas experience—Jimmy Johnson sticking with winning backup QB Steve Beuerlein over a healthy but benched Troy Aikman, and the internal turmoil it caused.

  • Dale: “Locker room divided…there were two or three times in Jimmy’s tenure where it was a razor’s edge whether he’d lose the locker room.” (24:30)
  • Troy Aikman called his agent looking for a trade due to frustration. (25:57)

• Outlook:
  Dale expects Kyler is done as a Cardinal, barring a major team crisis. The group briefly mentions the salary cap realities of eating a star QB's contract, referencing the Broncos’ willingness to eat $60M for Russell Wilson.

  • Dale: “If you get the right quarterback, you can still make the playoffs.” (27:53)

Tone: Analytical, pulling heavily on Dale’s player experience.

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5. NFL Week 10 Picks & In-Show Side Bets

(28:44 – 34:50)

• Contest Format:
  The guys pick their teams for the week (Bears, Cowboys, Steelers) or forced prop bets if teams are on a bye, ribbing each other for homering, hedging, or overcomplicating rules. The system: if only one host wins their bet, the losers have to pay up.

• Highlights:

  • Dale complains: “I can give you my phone. I don’t know how to get the apple money out of here. Jesus Christ.” (29:11)
  • Brady: “If you bet against your team, you should pay double!” (31:14)
  • Debate and mock indignation over rules, cashed bets, and who’s actually listening.

• Actual Picks:

  • Bears vs. Giants in Chicago (Dale/Bret discussion)
  • Cowboys on a bye; so pick is for Seahawks vs. Cardinals
  • Steelers vs. Chargers (John rolls with Steelers straight up despite road woes)
  • Prop bet: Jackson Smith-Njigba to score a touchdown (Brady)

• Atmosphere:
  Relentless trash talk, eye-rolling, and jokes about “wiping rear ends with $100 bills.”

Tone: Banter-driven; classic “guys razzing each other about football and gambling.”

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6. Championship Hopes & Phoenix Sports Woes

(34:54 – End)

• Valley Sports Frustration:
  Quick pivot to Phoenix’s championship drought. The hosts lament the Cardinals and Suns’ snakebit tendencies.

  • Dale: “It’s time to bail out on all of them.”
  • John: “Suns fans are just waiting for them to win so they can stop watching.”

• NBA Chatter:
  Dale and John discuss injuries and rotations, especially Jalen Green’s nagging “questionable” designation for the Suns and what it means for fan-favorite players like Con Gillespie.

Tone: Resigned (but still comedic), classic Arizona sports fatalism.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-----------------------------------------------------|-------------| | 06:17 | “Is that the greatest divorce you’ve ever heard in your life?” | John Holmberg | | 06:45 | “There are four guys in here that I can promise you will never, ever, ever have that issue.” | Dale Hellestrae | | 15:12 | “And they're on the sidelines laughing and high fiving and joking. You're down 24 something to the Cardinals…” | John Holmberg | | 17:22 | “You walk through a stinking bar. Nothing talks about football…And get treated like a superstar.” | Dale Hellestrae | | 18:21 | “Every seven years, if your team has not made the playoffs, the league forces you to sell…You’re giving back because the fans are the ones who are getting screwed.” | John Holmberg | | 21:28 | “The Cardinals have now taken a guy who almost started Monday and placed him on IR…There’s a problem inside…” | John Holmberg | | 24:30 | “There were two or three times in Jimmy's tenure in Dallas, where it was a razor's edge of whether he's going to lose the locker room or not.” | Dale Hellestrae | | 26:55 | “I think you’ve seen Kyler Murray for the last time unless all hell breaks loose.” | Dale Hellestrae | | 29:11 | “I can give you my phone. I don’t know how to get the apple money out of here. Jesus Christ.” | Dale Hellestrae | | 34:18 | “Pouty Brady is a blast. He thinks it's some sort of forceful thing. It's adorably. It's the cutest thing in the world when you get a little grumpy.” | John Holmberg | | 35:05 | “It’s time to bail out on all of them.” | Dale Hellestrae (about AZ teams) |

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Noteworthy Timestamps

• Matt Kalil Divorce Story & Locker Room Tales: 05:26 – 08:54
• Male Nudity & Locker Room Culture: 08:54 – 14:37
• Cowboys Soft Culture Rant: 14:38 – 20:44
• Cardinals/Kyler Murray Drama: 21:02 – 28:37
• NFL Picks/Bets Segment: 28:44 – 34:50
• Arizona Championship Drought, Suns Injuries: 34:54 – end

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Conclusion

This episode stands out as a perfect storm of sports mockery, blunt NFL insight, and over-the-top humor. Dale Hellestrae’s insider stories and blunt assessments pair perfectly with Holmberg’s comedic timing and skeptical takes on Arizona sports. If you want sharp, unfiltered talk about the NFL, a unique lens on the Cardinals’ dysfunction, and some of the best “guys just being guys” humor on the airwaves, this is an essential listen.

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Transcript

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[Dale Hellestra]

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[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

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[Brett Vesely]

There we go.

[Dale Hellestra]

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[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

We already yelling at him.

[Dale Hellestra]

What happened?

[Brett Vesely]

He's bitching about the music.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, I mean, coming. That's headache music.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

That was a great song. Royal blood British.

[Dale Hellestra]

You're not even okay.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Nothing about you.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

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[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

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[Brett Vesely]

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[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

We got. Oh, yeah. There's a whole bunch of weird.

[Brett Vesely]

What's going on?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Eric Spolster's house burned down.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

This guy for the Cowboys. I mean, it's speculation. They don't have any details of it. He dies. He had a huge game on Monday where, yeah, he blocked the punt and returned it for a touchdown. They find him dead, but there's no real details yet. There's speculation that he was in an accident, something terrible happened, and he went home and killed himself. That's what I've read a few times. And I'm like, if that's real. Yeah, then he was probably drunk or on drugs or doing something he shouldn't have been doing that made the guilt hit him to have to leave the scene in the first place.

[Dale Hellestra]

Before we get into all that, I do have one bone to pick.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

What a day. Go.

[Dale Hellestra]

I'm driving over here.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

You guys are selling this Playdio thing. Yeah. I mean, your people are volunteering to play music for whatever the hell they're playing music.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

A lot of bands looking to make it.

[Dale Hellestra]

And I hear the Sour Puss of Bradley.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah. Oh, it's terrible.

[Dale Hellestra]

And I mean, if you're trying to sell something, he should be on top of his.

[Brett Vesely]

Why don't you come in for it, Dale? You want to listen to it, too?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

You're about Royal Blood, who's a massively good band.

[Dale Hellestra]

I don't like your music. Now, you bring in some country. You should have a country group be your theme. Good Christ.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Southern rock is about.

[Dale Hellestra]

But these are guys that aren't known Brad. They give him a chance.

[Brett Vesely]

You're bitching about Royal Blood and you haven't even heard the stuff that we.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Have to suffer through. Don't. It makes this show better than all the others.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

When we feel like something is, we just say something. We're not going to play Pretend that Brett enjoys.

[Dale Hellestra]

He did. He didn't actually say it. He actually. It was a tone of voice and the. I could see it. I could see how he was city when he was saying that.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I say it.

[Dale Hellestra]

I dread it.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

He dreads the playo. I love it because I, I love the idea of something sucking so bad that you get to kind of envelop yourself in how if somebody thinks this is worth your time.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, see, I, I, I hate. I was thinking you're, you're for the little people. Give people a chance. Can I help them be in this defined. Yes. Some garage band. That.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Diamond in the rough.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[Brett Vesely]

And there are some good bands that.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Come out of it.

[Brett Vesely]

Like our, our winner last year.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

He doesn't like listening to crap. I think it's hilarious. And the needle in the haystack will reveal itself if it's out there. So that's what, that's why we do it.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

And for some of the bands, it's a good little reality check in a way.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

They take away some of the feedback.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

We're not your mom.

[Dale Hellestra]

Guys are the judges. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, God.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Oh, yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

And don't talk your stuff. You're the one bitching about Ozzy.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah. Yeah. You're the one who said Ozzy was terrible.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

So don't even start going, you know what, pal?

[Dale Hellestra]

You Dale. Right?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Exactly Right. Brett whining and crying about Ozzy the whole time. He's mad at you for unknown. Right.

[Dale Hellestra]

These are nobodies and they're trying to be somebody. That's right. I cheer for those.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

That's right. Now let's talk about the real stuff in sports today. Matt and Ryan Khalil and their huge three Coke canned penises. Did you see the, the podcast about Matt Khalil? Do you know him for. It was a defensive lineman or an offensive. He was an offensive lineman.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Desert Mountain.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

No, that, that's the quarterback. That's Slovis. Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

This guy. His ex wife went on a podcast. And this will never happen to you either. If Brooke comes to her senses someday and finally goes and comes on this show and says, I hear to talk to John about Dale. Oh, she would actually say, I'm here to talk about my new fiance John, about Dale. She would say, I left him because I didn't like Dale. Not what this lady said, which is, I left him because we couldn't have sex. His penis was like three Coke cans stacked on top of each other. Is that the greatest divorce you've ever heard in your life?

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

She tried to even actually get lipo done.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Wow. They tried to liposuction some of it out. So could be more comfortable proposing that. Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

Wow.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

You imagine that.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Wouldn't it, wouldn't it be worth divorce for Brooke to spread that tail. Like, she calls up Mark Curtis over at Channel 12 and says, I'm getting divorced from Dale, and I got some things I want to say.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, I said, she goes to Troy Hayden. I. Troy, Troy.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

And, well, he's friends with both of them, but we could. We could get that to happen. And then maybe even Ian Schwartz, who would, like his mouth would drop to the floor.

[Dale Hellestra]

There are four guys in here that I can promise you will never, ever, ever have that issue.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

It was too uncomfortable. Now, hold on, hold on. Saying the words it was uncomfortable, having sex with him might happen, but not for the same reason.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right? Exactly. Because of the size of your.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

For you, it would be like, this is just uncomfortable. I don't like anything that's happening. He's crying very hard. For me, it would just be like, when does this end? Like, I hate every second of it. For Brady, it would be like, oh, yeah, Sex.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Acorn in my side. I just.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

It was Brett, maybe. I don't know. Matthias seems like, you know, she's comfortable with you. That away. Three Coke cans. You ever see one of those in the locker room?

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, the closest Michael Irving. Yeah. Closest.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

And it's not that.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Did anyone ever challenge Michael Irvin in that department in the locker room? It was just his for good.

[Dale Hellestra]

Let him go on his way. Just let him go on his way. Every once in a while. You can distract him. Yeah. I think I've told you before, I'd say, but Michael, you look like you put on a few pounds. I mean, all of a sudden, he gets nervous. But his.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

But you're talking about his penis putting on a few pounds.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes. It's just. Again, let. Let those guys enjoy their glory.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah, they have to.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Nobody outworked Michael's penis.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

No. It was strong. Yeah. Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

Did I ever tell you the story about. About my grandson? And it's. It's a. It's a clean story. It's a fun story. Don't turn it dirty. Well, you're the one who.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

It's on the precipice of Michael Irvin dirty. Hold on. Your transition was speaking of Michael Irvin's dick. Have I ever told you about my grandson?

[Dale Hellestra]

Don't turn it dirty.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

All right.

[Dale Hellestra]

No. So we're taking care of one weekend, and it's my turn to get him ready for bed. He takes his bath also. He stands up in the bathtub. He goes, papa, do you have a wiener? And I went ask. Don't turn it dirty.

[Brett Vesely]

So I said, I'm not gonna say anything.

[Dale Hellestra]

You Almost did.

[Brett Vesely]

I'm turning my mic.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, turn it off.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Turn your mic off. I'll turn. I'm turning.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Grandpa said, well, yes, I do.

[Dale Hellestra]

And I said, why, yes, I do. And. And he looks at me, goes, my wiener's bigger than yours. And I'm like, where's this coming from?

[Brett Vesely]

I'm turning my. This is too easy.

[Dale Hellestra]

I've got you for a few years, son. And I asked my daughter, so where did that come from? And she said that she's going to bath one night. And he said, look at my wiener, Mom. It's big, isn't it? She goes, I didn't want to ruin his confidence.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

By the way, Brooke just texted me and said that you're stacked like two Tootsie Rolls. So that's not bad. That's pretty good. It's not cocaine.

[Dale Hellestra]

Side by side by side.

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[Dale Hellestra]

Not the length. It's the curve, Johnny.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

So that. Side by side Tootsie Rolls. All right. I suppose, if you're proud of that.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, those big. Those big ones.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

A jumbo.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, the joke ones.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Oh, that's impressive. Yeah, I just. I remember that there's just moments when, you know, like when Sam Cassell came into the locker room and I was covering stuff and his touched the ground and spun like a. It's just. I don't know that I'd be a comfortable athlete.

[Dale Hellestra]

Did you. When you. When you noticed it, did you immediately, like, make an awkward turn away?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

He yelled at everybody. His towel fell off while he was yelling at the team with the press in the room.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

So he came out of the showers while we're all talking about the Suns, who were at the time 0 and 12, yelling and screaming. And he comes out and started to scream. I don't care who's in here. I'm the only mother who cares about this team. I'm the only one who cares about winning. And he goes on and on. And his towel fell off, and he was so mad that it started to swing left to right and then started to do full rotations because his body was gyrating all over.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Hit four guys.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I didn't hear a thing.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

At their locker.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I didn't hear anything.

[Dale Hellestra]

So you didn't turn away?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I stared at it. It was marvelous. Everybody did.

[Brett Vesely]

Dale, did it sound like a chopper landing at the 4,007 7 or what?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah, there was that. It was a very strange, like. I don't care. I'm standing with my junk out and everything.

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[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

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[Brett Vesely]

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[Dale Hellestra]

Slow down.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

It was so big.

[Dale Hellestra]

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[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

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[Dale Hellestra]

Holmberg's Morning Sickness.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

They wanted to jump over it swinging.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Oh yeah, I grabbed it. We got him and Michael Irving. We did double dutch for a half an hour. It was insane. And I'm like, all these other guys in here are bad. And then and, and Kevin Durant just did an interview where he said he had body image issues. And I'm like, well, that's a penis thing. You're seven feet tall. You're in great shape.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Why are you telling a magazine like, I really have some serious body image problems? The only reason you would is because you had a locker next to Sam Cassell for a little bit.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right. And you, you probably have a Holmberg issue.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Maybe I would, trust me. We all. Sam. Because I could still be packing nice Cassell rolls up and I'm like, when did they hand those out? How did I not. I missed that. It's incredible. So it's, you know, you had to walk around in there with your pinky.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, isn't that a weird thing about it? Isn't that a weird concept? Just grown dudes walking around naked, taking a shower in a big, big giant ones big shower and singing. Yeah. You know, just talking. You know, you sit there showering.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Why?

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, what are you doing after, you know, after we get out of here after meeting. It's. It's everything that's like, it's normal.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

It isn't. It's the least normal thing in the world. And it's everything you try to avoid in everyday life. And yet in sp, in athletics, it's like, let's get naked.

[Dale Hellestra]

But I'll tell you when it gets bad is I go to this gym up, up north and there's these old guys who I promise you they're wise to not allow them to walk around naked around their house. But they walk around. The log was like, I have told guys, cover yourself up.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Put something over there.

[Dale Hellestra]

Nobody wants to see that.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Shaven yes. Their patents like that, leaning over. And I think they're like, dale, do.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

You have a wiener?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah, there's something. There's some validity to the idea. They're not allowed to be naked at home.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

And so they. They have to be naked somewhere.

[Dale Hellestra]

Somewhere.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

So they wander around each other.

[Dale Hellestra]

I have gone into the steam room a couple times. There's been a guy just sitting there with a towel underneath his butt. Sitting there. I say, put that towel on yourself.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

See, but there's the problem. You're going into a steam room with strangers. You're going to see some dicks.

[Dale Hellestra]

You've never been in a steam room?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Not with other people.

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

Yuck.

[Dale Hellestra]

What? You're rich enough that you have a steam room at your house?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Actually, I do. So, yeah. Get any questions about that? Yeah, I got a sauna in there.

[Dale Hellestra]

Do you?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Oh, it's awesome.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

But it's an individual.

[Dale Hellestra]

Where's that house? Like, when I come over.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

You're not allowed on that side. You're allowed in the public domain area.

[Dale Hellestra]

There's that door I heard you talk about. If you try to go out of the.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah, there are people on the other side. Well, armed guards. That's the real part of the house. And then there's the area where you hang out.

[Brett Vesely]

You let the commoners go in there.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

The homeless come over the.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

The soup kitchen, so to speak. They come in, you have your pizza, and you get out, and then, you know, I'll allow you in there. And if you start wandering around on the other side, there's some trouble. So it's on that side. Like what, you're not coming over to use my sauna anyway?

[Dale Hellestra]

No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it. But. By the way, do you see the gift I left you last Thursday?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

No.

[Dale Hellestra]

Really?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Of course I did. You didn't see the picture I sent back?

[Dale Hellestra]

No, I never got.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Dale gave me his Baltimore Ravens beanie, and it's proudly draped over the back of my office toilet. Yeah, it's on. It's on the handle.

[Dale Hellestra]

I thought you put it on Adolf Hitler or something.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

No, Adolf Hitler's not in there. Technically, it's just the COVID of a book. Yeah, it's just. And you know that Hitler's in my bathroom, so stay out of my bath.

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, I've been in there a couple times.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

You haven't.

[Dale Hellestra]

It's relaxed.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

It's not a thing. I want to talk about the Cowboys, even though they're going through a thing today. Monday night's game. This Is like this goes back to what you've been saying the whole time about them being soft and stuff. And then we'll get into the Kyler Murray thing. Also the. That team had swagger in a game where they were down almost the entire time badly. They were tackling guys after nine yard runs and high fiving each other. And it wasn't like they were mean mug. And one dude flexed over the running back for the Cardinals. The Cardinals came into your building and slapped you silly from jump and your high powered offense and all this. And they're on the sidelines laughing and high fiving and joking. You're down 24 something to the Cardinals who are in a complete shambles. And they came into your building. Did this. Is that coaching or is that just something that you just have to clean house. You can't fix that.

[Dale Hellestra]

That is again, when you talk about. We talk about the Jets. I guess maybe we're off there. When we were talking about the jets and how from the top everything gets permeated by what the top is. If it's good, good smelling stuff comes down. If it's bad like the jets, it's bad smelling stuff that comes downhill. It's the Cowboys ownership. It starts with Jerry Jones, who has audacity. Last week to go, yeah, I know we can fix our defense, but there's $100 million in natural gas out there that. A billion dollars of natural gas that I'm making phone calls on. Yeah, and that's fine, but then hire a dude to do your football stuff.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

You're basically saying out loud, I don't.

[Dale Hellestra]

Have time to do my job and I don't care.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

And screw you, the fans will show up.

[Dale Hellestra]

And I've told you this before, their PAGS facility, it's a Taj Mahal. It's gorgeous. But it's also like a zoo. They allow tours to come through. You're going from one meeting to the weight room or the lunchroom and there's 40 people walking through Oogling and Ogland. But there's mahogany. I promise you, John, if you walk into that locker room, it's cleaner than your house has ever been. And that doesn't speak of football, does not speak of putting your hand in the dirt, knocking the crap out of somebody in front of you. Okay, so you go from that and it's gorgeous. Yeah. Nothing speaks football. Yeah. To the stadium, which is even worse, which is even more ostentatious. Look at you. Look at that.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

And reading words from a big word book.

[Dale Hellestra]

Brett, spell that for Me, D, A, L, E. But you go to the stadium, it's even more plush.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

And guess what you do when you walk out of the field to play a football game? You walk through a bar.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

You walk through a stinking bar. Nothing talks about football.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

And get treated like a superstar. The fans will not stop filming you and taking your paparazzi in.

[Dale Hellestra]

And so it starts at the top, permeates down. Nobody's gonna be held. Nobody's held accountable. I promise you. If that was the 90s and I'm not, I kind of the old guy.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

On the, on the front porch. But I'm really not.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

No, you're not wrong.

[Dale Hellestra]

But if that happened in the 90s, somebody would have you up against a locker after the game telling you that's not.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

On second and 10, the Cardinals ran a basic sweep and got nine yards. And it wasn't like a well blocked or any guy just didn't have anybody hit him. Nine yards in corner, takes him down, stands over him, gives a little flex and high fives the other guy. Instead of like, we just gave up nine yards.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes, yes.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

They're getting three more downs.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

For sure.

[Dale Hellestra]

It's a tough watch for those former people.

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

And as fans, it's like, you get to the point where you're like, this has to change now. And they're not going to until the owners go, I came up with this this morning. Every seven years, if your team has not made the playoffs, the league forces you to sell yourself. Somebody else said, sell for what you bought it for. You can't profit. You've been profiting the whole time off. You're giving back because the fans are the ones who are getting screwed. And for seven years, you haven't had a winning season.

[Dale Hellestra]

You wonder if somebody put that. That into the rule book, just how serious Jerry would become.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

No one would go seven years. None of those guys would be like, I can't lose this cash cow.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

And it's because of Jerry Jones that these teams have so much value. But it's also because of a lot of these owners just sit back and steal the money.

[Dale Hellestra]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

The Bidwells would be in the mix, but we're. I know we better go. It'll be a couple of couple of years off to having that. You've got to get rid of it.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. Can you imagine going to year seven?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Oh, you would. You'd spend all the money. If you're in year seven, the league gives you another 25 million for the cat because you're in your bad year, go grab some free agents because you're in year seven. If you don't make it happen this year, you're gone. And you. You're not banned from the NFL. You can buy another team that's going through the same thing, but you can't have this one for.

[Dale Hellestra]

Because think about it. Here's the deal. We talk about the jets in Cleveland all the time.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Always.

[Dale Hellestra]

Cleveland jets, never ends. Cleveland Jets. Yeah. Well, guess what. The jets have gone further than the playoffs more recently than the Cowboys have. They played in championship games 10, 12 years ago.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

15 years ago was their last winning season.

[Dale Hellestra]

1995 since the Cowboys got to the NFC championship game.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

But they make the playoffs all the time. Steelers the same way. Make the playoffs all the time. They got to get further. But that franchise is now in that, oh, well, we're not very good for a long, long time thing. It's bad. All right. I like my theory. I think it would work. Instead of relegating like they do in soccer, you just. The owners can't stay. The Bidwells would have to go. And if you go 14 years and you only got two, you're automatically out forever. If you're only one for two seven year spans. That's it. That's. That's two generations, for God's sakes. You're out.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, I tell you, if the customer. We gotta go to break.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah, we'll go to break. We'll go to break right now. You keep that thought in your head. If it's possible there's nothing else in there. Dale Hell street is joining us right now, brought to you by our friends at Diamond Coatings az. We'll talk some more sports next.

[Dale Hellestra]

Morning sickness medicate KUPD Holmberg's morning sickness.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

All right, we are in the heart of Dale Hellestra's visit with us on Thursdays. He comes down here, brought to you by our [e-mail] and they'll take care of your needs for your flooring, pavers, garage, patio, whatever you want to.

[Dale Hellestra]

Basketball court.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Basketball court. Your sports house. Oh, they'll paint your house inside and out, too. They told me about that last time. They're at the house. I didn't even know that part. Diamondcoatingsaz.com we'll get to our fanduel pics in just a moment. But we were just talking about the Cowboys and their swagger and all the silliness and how bad franchises stay bad for a reason and relegating this to that and getting rid of Owners. There's also the quiet soap operas that go on. We got one right here in town.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I have for years said that Kyler Murray got the short end of the stick. Every time I watch the Cardinals with.

[Dale Hellestra]

Is there a pun there or no?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

He is short. That's true. But he's the best athlete on the field every game. Like that guy's incredibly athletic. Size is a little bit of a problem. He's got the strongest arm of a quarterback. He's Dan Marino strong, that quick flick. He's 65 yards. Whenever he just decides to dream it. It's a big arm. What we can't see as fans is what is wrong with him mentally. The Cardinals have now taken a guy who almost started Monday and placed him on ir, which tells me two things. There's a problem inside between either Gannon and him or ownership in him. And he's being cordial about it. And so are they. Or they tried to ship him. There were no bites and they had to come back and go, kyler, you're not playing. And we're gonna have to do something about that to make this easier on us and you. We don't want to embarrass you. How's your foot? And at that moment, kind of with a wink and a nod, Kyler goes, it's bad.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

It's a boo boo.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

It's a bad one. And it's not here.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah. You know, it's. It's the. The whole trade thing that's fascinating.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I think they tried to unload because.

[Dale Hellestra]

What could you possibly think you could get for a Kyler Murray when you.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Saw the prices of the other players getting traded like Sauce Gardner going for two first rounders to a franchise that should not have done that. Their problem was not corner, although it wasn't deep. They got better. But that was a big swing.

[Dale Hellestra]

It was a big swing.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

The Cowboys getting Quinn and Williams for a lot.

[Dale Hellestra]

But by the way, did you. The thing. I said this on Monday on our other show, the main event, the fact that. Did you see the. The goal line play where the Cardinal quarterback is. The name Jacoby does the quarterback sneak. Yeah.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

The Cowboys had, first of all, just a four man front.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

And. And the defensive tackles were on the inside shoulders of the guards. So there's a natural hole right there in the middle. But what they did was they slanted out to the B gaps, so they left him. The two guards are wedging in with the. They had nobody to block. It's like, come on. Was that the defensive Call. Because both defensive tackles did it. I don't care if he had Aaron Donald in his prime. Doesn't matter if you say, hey, you're in this gap. Slat outside on a quarterback sneak. He's not going to make the tackle. Makes no sense.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

You're going right over.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

That's just Matt Eberfluss, the defense in Dallas.

[Dale Hellestra]

It's just. It's.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

How much do you think. And you said, oddly enough, Troy Aikman went through this with the Cowboys when they had to go to him and say, we got two options here. You're either still hurt or Berline's our guy. Because Berline was winning and Troy was struggling that year. That was early on.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, he. He had a great start of the season. Hurt his knee.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Oh, that's right.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay. So he was going to be out for a month. Yeah. Okay. You couldn't put guys on IR back then because you put them on IR and they're gone for the. For the season.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay. And so Steve comes in, we win one game, we win two games. We win three games, win four games. Now Troy's getting started, getting healthy.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Now.

[Dale Hellestra]

He went five games. Yeah. Now Troy's healthy. We won five in a row. And Jimmy went to him and said, we're sticking with Steve. It was. There were like two or three times in Jimmy's tenure there in Dallas, where it was a razor's edge of whether he's going to lose the locker room or not. In 1990, when I got there, Steve Walsh, Troy Aikman, locker room divided.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Really.

[Dale Hellestra]

They wouldn't make a decision on who was the guy. And because you had your bus. Universal Miami guys, they finally settled on Troy. We went on to.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Was Irvin on Walsh's side?

[Dale Hellestra]

Irvin was.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Because they played together quietly.

[Dale Hellestra]

I think he knew Troy was the better quarterback, but he couldn't bail a yell and screamer. Yeah. Against you.

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

So.

[Dale Hellestra]

So almost lost locker room there. And then when the Troy, Steve Berline thing we. Now we've won six in a row going into the playoffs.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

Troy's been healthy for two weeks. And Jimmy decided we're gonna stick with Steve for the wild game against Chicago in Chicago. And we beat them. So now we won seven in a row with Berline. Troy's been healthy for three weeks and boiling hot. Yeah. And again, he kept. He was professional.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Troy, keep it together. Did he talk to you about.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes. Oh, yeah. He's furious.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I hate that Jimmy Johnson.

[Dale Hellestra]

And he made calls to Lee Steinberg and said, I want out. Of here. Really, you know, I. I can't stand it here. I need to get out of here. Whatever.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Wow.

[Dale Hellestra]

And then we went up to Detroit, and that was the year Barry Sanders had that run. You'll see on all the Highlights tour, all 11 Defenders had at least one chance at him. Some of them had. And the bench sometimes had two.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Couple of fans.

[Dale Hellestra]

He's still running.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

He's still run.

[Dale Hellestra]

Coors Light guy, you know, and he's still running. And then they brought Troy in late, but somehow, some way, they patched it up early in the off season.

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

Wow.

[Dale Hellestra]

And Steve was, you know, super cordial about it. He said, hey, I'm not the starting quarterback. Somehow, some way, we're just winning games. It's Troy's team, but we keep winning.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Why take out the hot, Right?

[Dale Hellestra]

Exactly. So.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

So Kyler being sat on the IR now to me is basically, it's a soft benching. And the idea is that he will not be here.

[Dale Hellestra]

I think you've seen Kyler Murray for the last time unless all hell breaks loose.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

So the quarterback for the Cardinals is going to be Kendrel Sloven or whatever his name. Slovis Keaton.

[Dale Hellestra]

Desert Mountain High School.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

That's right. Keaton Slovis. Inevitably, because going back to Dale's patented phrase, Arizona fans can't have nice things. Jacoby Brissette might be playing well, but something's going to happen where his rib pops or something this weekend and slow this to the rescue.

[Dale Hellestra]

They're gonna be up 21 to 10 on Seattle with five minutes left and something's gonna go wrong.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Something stupid will happen. I'll be like, slovis is the answer. And you're gonna deal with Slovis going out the door. Yes, it's gonna happen.

[Dale Hellestra]

And that's a thing, though. The whole. The whole interesting thing is how do you figure out the salary cap ramifications and all that, that disaster. But you know, Denver shown, hey, you can do it. You can get rid of Russell Wilson and eat $60 million for a couple years.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

You'll be fine.

[Dale Hellestra]

And if you get the right quarterback, you can still make the playoffs.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

And that just goes to tell you that payroll means nothing to the owners at all. They're capped for other teams reasons. You get that huge. These guys don't lose a penny on this.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, they don't lose. They don't lose. It's just. What it's. What can you do? You do.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

You can't do anything to your right.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Your roster gets screwed up, but you can dead money that they can play with it. And they did. Denver did a great job. Just had to eat it for a year.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes. And now, again, now, can you talk Bidwell into saying, hey, this isn't our guy? Plus the fact that we said it off the air, the fact that there's been no NFL coach who's gone through three full years, not made the playoffs, and come back for a fourth.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah.

[Dale Hellestra]

And that's third year. This is his third year, you know, and it certainly does not look like.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

They'Re on a playoff, Although they played well against.

[Dale Hellestra]

They did. But again, it's. It's Cowboys. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

And you're not proud of your Cowboys right now. Now.

[Dale Hellestra]

Disgusting.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

You screwed up our bets last week in a huge way. By saying, hey, what if only one guy wins? All the rest of us should pay. Well, then Brett wins. The only one on our bet last week. So now we all got to throw 33 bucks his way to cover the $100 bet.

[Dale Hellestra]

I still haven't even changed it. Still have an issue with it.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

We all. Brady. I'm the Jew. Of course. And it's going to be pulling.

[Dale Hellestra]

I can give you my phone. I don't know how to get the apple money out of here. Jesus Christ.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

We all listened last week. Don't act like you get.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

I didn't listen to him. He called me fatty.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Well, of course you did. But you heard it, so you did listen. Because you're right, he did. So you heard some of it.

[Dale Hellestra]

I do have a little bone to pick. The fact that Brady was going to pick against his Bengals, but. But Brad already did, so you made.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Him take a. I'm never taking any of you to Vegas. You're hindsight losers.

[Dale Hellestra]

But we said. But you said.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

We lost him.

[Brett Vesely]

Brady's fine.

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

Pay up.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

No, he's not. He's paying, too. And because he sat here and said. All right, fine. Whether he was listening or not, you were in on it, and now you're bitching that you.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, we.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

You didn't say anything when the bet was going on.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Was just. If you bet against you, your team, you should pay.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, no, no.

[Brett Vesely]

That was on the text. That wasn't on the air.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

He's adding more. And I don't mind that one either. I like more bets. It's more fun.

[Dale Hellestra]

We'll keep it simple. If you're the only guy gets it right and the other three idiots lose you money, you get money.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I'm the only one losing money here. Let's calm down. But let's. Yeah, but still. I'm. But I'm the one not complaining. Let's keep going.

[Dale Hellestra]

You wipe your rear end with Hunter?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Isn't it great?

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I had a five in my pocket the other day. I burned my pants. How embarrassing. What was that doing? Oh, my God. Who put this? Joke 1. Do they still make ones? Kidding.

[Dale Hellestra]

Of course. For pennies.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I'm kidding. I would never have a five in my pants. That was a joke. Everybody, it's time to go down the list and find out what we're picking this week. Your Bears are five and three, looking for six wins in a row.

[Dale Hellestra]

No, we.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Or is it five?

[Brett Vesely]

We lost the one we lost last week.

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

Week.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Lost the Ravens. Oh, that's right. 500. Okay. That's right. It was two weeks, but here.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yeah, that's.

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

I'm sorry.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah, two weeks ago.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah, that's right. I forgot about it. If you got six wins staring six wins in the face, who do you got this week?

[Brett Vesely]

Giants.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

And in Chicago. In Chicago, the limping Giants taking the Bears to go fixing. It's okay, man. That's a tough one for me because they're. They're that team that would lose a game like this.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, it's the Bears. It's a crapshoot either way.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

It doesn't matter.

[Brett Vesely]

But I'm.

[Dale Hellestra]

The other thing I think you should throw in there is you should lose double if you pick against your team at home.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Calm down. Like you did last week.

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, no.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

You picked. You picked the Cowboys.

[Dale Hellestra]

Yes, I did pick the Cowboys.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Week before. You picked. All right, who do Cowboys have this week?

[Dale Hellestra]

I don't know.

[Brett Vesely]

Wow. Hang on.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

I got it. They're on a buy.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Those are on a buy.

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

So you get to pick.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Oh, so you get to pick. Let you pick the Cardinals and Seahawks.

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

Seahawks.

[Dale Hellestra]

Okay, well, Seahawks.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

All right. Take Seattle. Brady, you have to pick a prop bet because your Bengals are on a buy for your Seahawks and Cardinals.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

I gotta go prop bet on.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah, just. Why? You just have to pick a guy, pick a touchdown, who's scoring a touchdown and through the whole game, take your Ohio State boy.

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Marvin. No, the other one. Yes. Myth Ninja.

[Dale Hellestra]

The guys already got a thousand yards. Smith.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Ninja. I'll go with him for a touchdown.

[Dale Hellestra]

Way to go out on a ledge.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah, well, it could help. Glad I could help that I said, you gotta pick a prop bet and was like, I gotta build a rocket to the moon. No, you just have to pick an Ohio State receiver that everybody's talking about. It's easy. That's a Simple one. Are you okay with that? What are you looking at him for? Why are you so confused?

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Just tell me why I need to bet.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Well, there we go. Hey, we're on a time crunch here, Mr. Stares at the Walls.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

You said, I'll pick the Cardinal game.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Well, because I didn't realize the Cowboys were on a buy, so I'm actually gotta.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

The basketballs are on a buy, too.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

That's what my point was, jackass. That's why I gave you the cardinal G. Being mad? No, this is Brady being.

[Dale Hellestra]

Is he pouting?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Contrarian. Just basically not running with the punches because he realized, okay, Dad's got to pick that. You got to dance on your feet a little bit. I'm good at it. So we gave you the Cardinal game. All you had to do is pick a prop bet. I gave you the easier of the two. It's a chance the Cardinals could shock the Seahawks. Jackson Smith Ninja is going to get one. You know that.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Jamar Chase was going to get one.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

As we thought so. But you might have put the. You might have put the kibosh on, and now you'll. Brett. 33 bucks, jackass. My Steelers are in Los Angeles against the Chargers, and they never play well on the road. Statistically. Horrible Going out west.

[Dale Hellestra]

Really?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

On the road out west? Yeah. If they go west of St. Louis, it's bad news. Okay, so I'm gonna go ahead and say the Steelers will win this, but I'm taking. I think it's three points. I'm gonna take those points. I think I'm gonna take the point.

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

Yeah.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

Three and a half.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Yeah, I'll take the Steelers in the.

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

Three and a half.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Ah, screw it. I'll go straight up. I'm going straight upstairs.

[Dale Hellestra]

You gotta go straight up. I mean, otherwise our bet's gonna win us 100 bucks.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

All right, all right, you're right. I'll knock that.

[Brett Vesely]

What's his bet?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Go for it. I didn't put it in there, Brady. Did you?

[Dale Hellestra]

No.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

All right, I'll put it in there.

[Dale Hellestra]

Bray's already on, and it's a selfish thing.

[Additional Co-host or Guest]

I've already studied and everything. And the horse guy doesn't know whose team.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

God forbid you ask Brady. Hey, do a quick prop bet on that. Well, that would require knowing some of those guys. You had two Ohio State players just jump on right away, Marvin, and you.

[Dale Hellestra]

Know the odds would go up if you took Marvin.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

It's true. Do you want to make that change?

[Mike King (Profiling Evil podcast host)]

No.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

You want to go with Jackson Smith Ninja?

[Dale Hellestra]

I do like pouty. Brady.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Pouty Brady is a blast. He thinks it's some sort of forceful thing. It's adorably. It's the cutest thing in the world. See, when you get a little grumpy, we all think the teddy bear is going to rage. So cute.

[Dale Hellestra]

The world's against him. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Oh, it's so. And you just want to go over and poke him in the tummy. You're mad. It's 9:50. We got an entertainment drill coming up. Hopefully that bet hits. Brett. Congratulations for being the only winner last week.

[Dale Hellestra]

Thank you.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Anything else? Anything else in sports you want to cover for? Hit the button.

[Dale Hellestra]

Did I hear you guys talking about championships in the Valley? Oh, well, what brought that subject up?

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Well, because I was saying it's time to bail out on the Cardinals.

[Dale Hellestra]

Oh, it's time to bail out on all of them.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

No.

[Dale Hellestra]

You got your boy again. Questionable tonight. Jalen Green.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I don't know what's going on.

[Dale Hellestra]

How many stinking times he could be questionable.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

I don't know what's going on, and.

[Dale Hellestra]

Then not suit up at 4. 45.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

The Suns are. You're just waiting for them to win it so you can stop watching.

[Dale Hellestra]

Well, the thing. The thing about the suns is if Jalen Green comes back. When he comes back, that means probably my favorite player, Con Gillespie, is going to get less four times.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

But if it's. If he pulls out the same numbers, then it's a bigger problem. Jalen Green's back than colic.

[Dale Hellestra]

He's better. But does he play with the same energy? No. Keep screaming.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

That's enough. Knock it off.

[Dale Hellestra]

Who said that in the other room? Oh, there's Dale.

[Co-host (possibly Brett's co-host or sports commentator)]

Time. We've got time. You're done here, Dale. We'll do the entertainment drill next.

[Dale Hellestra]

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