11-12-25 - Pod Full Of Records And Glass Blowing Gear From A Relative Arrived At Brady's - Discussing John's Dad's Guns And Safes Leads To More Details On Brady's Neighbor Bob Ray And What Brady Didn't See

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona

Episode: 11-12-25 - Pod Full Of Records And Glass Blowing Gear From A Relative Arrived At Brady's, Discussing John's Dad's Guns And Safes, More Details On Brady's Neighbor Bob Ray
Date: November 12, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Brett Vesely, Dick Toledo

Episode Overview

This episode centers on the chaos and oddities of inheriting a storage pod from a deceased relative, unraveling old family mysteries, and exploring the eccentric history of Brady’s neighbor, Bob Ray. The hosts humorously dissect the complications of going through inherited belongings, speculate about what lies in mystery boxes, and reflect on family artifacts, gun collections, and peculiar neighbors with a mix of affection and disbelief.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Inheriting a Storage Pod: Buried Treasures and Headaches

• Brady receives a storage pod from a deceased aunt, full of tax records, old paperwork, tools, and random personal effects.
• The process leads to debates over what’s worth keeping and what should be thrown out or shredded, with John mocking Brady for his and his wife’s tendency to hoard (02:00-03:16).
• Brady describes finding keys to unknown safes and deposit boxes, sparking fantasies about uncovering hidden cash or accounts (04:07-04:27).
• John: “You’re trying to find the secret money. I see what’s going on.” (04:07)
• Much of the haul is mundane, but Brady scores some high-quality tools and unique glass blowing gear, as his aunt used to manufacture glassblowing kilns (07:37-08:32).

2. Quirky and Slightly Inappropriate Inheritances

• Brady unearths a valued piece: a $900 glass-blown bong, alongside art made by local artists and a couple of somewhat questionable racially caricatured vintage prints his family once displayed (08:46-10:22).
• Hilarity ensues as the hosts joke about bizarre family art and question the wisdom and taste behind keeping such items.
• John on Brady’s old art: “You had those prominently displayed… slavery was real. I don’t see that in your backyard.” (10:19)
• Brady tries to justify the art as historical artifacts, while John’s comedic skepticism is relentless.

3. Family Collections: Guns, Knives, WWII Memorabilia

• The conversation shifts to John’s father’s massive gun and safe collection. John laments the logistics and moral ambiguity of inheriting and selling a family arsenal (18:56–20:11).
• John: “Don’t make your death my job. What are you talking about? I don’t want to sell all your guns… I might sell one for a buck and it’s a $10 million gun.” (19:06)
• Brady and John commiserate about the personal and emotional confusion of inheriting militaria, such as knives taken off dead soldiers in WWII (23:56–24:28).
• John: “Do you think in Germany there’s a kid going, ‘My grandpa’s got an American’s stars and stuff?’” (24:39)

4. Legend of Bob Ray: The Eccentric, Troubled Neighbor

• Bob Ray’s Story Unfolds: Brady describes his neighbor, a WWII tank commander who married a German woman, collected German artifacts, and became infamous for walking his pug (named Winston) at night, often carrying a .45 revolver (26:36–28:52).
• Bob Ray’s quirks included nudity, firearm brandishing, cat hatred, and PTSD-fueled oddities that the neighborhood generally ignored.
• John: “That was what, those three little tiny gems? But we had sugar cereal.” (36:36)
• The hosts reflect on the normalization of Bob Ray’s behavior, noting a generational difference in addressing mental health and household boundaries.
• Brady admits, “He wasn’t all there,” after much coaxing from John (35:27).
• John: “You grew up in an insane asylum. You don’t even know it.” (37:13)

5. Neighborhood Dynamics and Denial

• John probes Brady on how the neighborhood continued to tolerate Bob Ray’s increasingly erratic and disturbing actions, from public nudity to firearm threats against local cats.
• Brady continually (and comedically) downplays the threats, while John points out the dangers and codependency:
  • John: “You are the most codependent person I’ve ever met in my life. You accept everything and make an excuse.” (44:01)
  • Brady: “It was all talk. That’s horrifying talk, though!” (44:06)
• The discussion exposes suburban denial and reluctance to confront uncomfortable truths.
• John: “Ask questions. There’s a naked man next door! You guys are turning blind eyes…” (41:17)

6. Family Nicknames and Their Absurd Origins

• The episode caps with playful ribbing about the legitimacy of family nicknames and tall tales, with John disbelieving Brady’s explanation of how his dad “Torp” supposedly got his nickname from the kids and it spread to adults (48:00–51:56).

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Inherited Hoarding:
  “You let the wife go up and handle what to keep—they keep everything. Oh, you’re a hoarder too, though.”
  – John (02:55)

• On Secret Inheritance:
  “You’re trying to find the secret money. I see what’s going on.”
  – John (04:07)

• On Glass Bong Discovery:
  “One of the things is valued at like 900 bucks. It’s a glass blown bong.”
  – Brady (08:46)
  “That’s so Colorado.”
  – John (09:21)

• On Old Family Art:
  “You had those prominently displayed. Displayed what? They’re real ants.”
  – John (10:29)

• On Gun Collections:
  “Don’t make your death my job. What are you talking about? I don’t want to sell all your guns.”
  – John (19:06)

• On WWII Trophies:
  “Do you think in Germany there’s like a kid going, ‘My grandpa’s got American soldiers', like, stars and stuff?’”
  – John (24:39)

• On Bob Ray’s Oddities:
  “He was a disaster… This neighbor of yours. Wow. That’s… your Bob Ray story gets better and better. He was a mental wreck.”
  – John (27:01)

• On Neighborhood Complicity:
  “You grew up in an insane asylum. You don’t even know it.”
  – John (37:13)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment/Topic | |---------|-----------------------------------------------| | 01:55 | Brady receives the inherited storage pod | | 04:07 | Speculation on hidden cash/keys | | 08:46 | Glass bong & glassblowing equipment | | 10:19 | Vintage art and questionable collectibles | | 18:56 | Inheriting gun collections/dealing with safes | | 23:56 | Stories of family warfare memorabilia | | 26:36 | Intro to Bob Ray’s legendary strangeness | | 35:27 | John pushes Brady to declare Bob Ray’s instability | | 37:13 | John’s “insane asylum” dig | | 41:17 | Denial and questions about neighborly oddities | | 48:00 | Family nicknames and urban myths |

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Episode Tone & Style

• The episode is wildly humorous, irreverent, and candid.
• John leads with relentless skepticism and biting sarcasm, while Brady earnestly tries to make sense of his past.
• Memorable for its storytelling, dark comedy, and willingness to roast both family traditions and community blind spots.

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Final Thoughts

Listeners are treated to a hilarious deep-dive into family inheritances, quirky art, and the shadowy corners of suburbia. The hosts’ comedic banter brings levity to topics of death, legacy, and the unexamined weirdness that shapes every family and neighborhood.

Memorable Closing: “Grasp—which is a reality concept Brady has yet to have—grasp, grasp it is. That’s the word for 6am...”
– John (42:51)

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Transcript

[Brett Vesely]

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[Byron]

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[Brett Vesely]

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[John]

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[Brady]

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[John]

And Wayne, if my car has an extended warranty, do I have to take.

[Larry McFeely]

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[Brett Vesely]

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[John]

Well, it's nice to have other options.

[Brett Vesely]

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[Larry McFeely]

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[Brett Vesely]

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[John]

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[Larry McFeely]

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[John]

A whole lot more. You've been deceived by an agent of Satan himself. He's evil. Sitting right here.

[Brett Vesely]

Come on.

[Byron]

No, no, he's not.

[John]

He's not evil. He's just a bit rude. Good morning, everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Wednesday. Man, November 12th. Already? It's 5:45. This is your morning sickness. My name is John. There's Brady. Brett's still out, obviously. And then, of course, you got big dick Toledo sitting around here somewhere. We're off and running for another glorious day here in paradise. A good one. Another 85 degree November day. Beat that. Everybody go play outside. Play outside? The whole world's a pool. Just get in and in this.

[Brady]

Unload a pod you just got from.

[John]

No, that's what you did.

[Brady]

Huh?

[John]

You just got a pod from a.

[Brady]

Fantastic.

[John]

How fun is that?

[Brady]

Boxes and boxes of.

[John]

Not your stuff. Yeah, this was an inherited pod. Yeah, and it's stuff you don't want. Yeah, stuff you don't Want business tax returns since why in the world.

[Brady]

They're just.

[John]

How did that end up in the pod? They just loaded the house and put it in the pod.

[Brady]

Yeah, basically.

[John]

You didn't go through it first. You wanted the tax returns.

[Brady]

I. I didn't know.

[John]

Oh, boy. Ronnie went up and wanted the tax returns to.

[Brady]

Yeah. She thought, oh, I'm. I need to keep them. They're filed in boxes. I go, you don't.

[John]

That person is no longer with us.

[Brady]

Yeah. So there's.

[John]

There's no oh, you've got.

[Brady]

Other than oh? She's thinking. I go, well, we, you know, pay to have it shredded.

[John]

Yeah. Or just burn it slowly in a field.

[Brady]

Thought about that. But they're. They're, you know, those regular filing boxes.

[John]

Sure.

[Brady]

There must be 20.

[John]

Oh, good Lord. You didn't go up. No, that's a mistake. You let her. You let the wife go up and handle what to keep. They keep everything. Oh, you're a hoarder, too, though.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

You're bad. This would.

[Brady]

And even.

[John]

You're gonna keep all this.

[Brady]

Oh, you're nowhere up, Brady.

[John]

You just got your garage redone. It was reasonable and human. And now you got all this.

[Brady]

Just. Just a day or two delay. I've got. I've got enough room in the storage.

[John]

No, we already had a problem with your garage. Nobody gonna do with those cans. You got to keep other people's tax papers and cans.

[Brady]

I only have two more boxes of. Two more Tupperware, Whatever you call storage boxes of cans. So I'm gonna throw them up on the wall, too.

[John]

You got to get them up there.

[Brady]

I might as well complete the project.

[John]

By all those tax boxes. What did you find in there of the other person's belongings? They're like, hey, I think that's a.

[Brady]

Part of it, is finding certain things that might have been filed in the wrong place.

[John]

Yeah, but so what if they're dead? Doesn't matter. All their paperwork is meaningless now. As far as that goes. Yeah.

[Brady]

And there could be. But there's, like, potential. There could be other accounts that you don't know.

[John]

You're trying to find the secret money. I see what's going on.

[Brady]

Or it just sits there.

[John]

Are you forced to go through that? Oh, yeah. I would go through that if it meant.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Yeah.

[John]

Somebody's extra money.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

So now you got to go a couple of mysteries.

[Brady]

There's a bunch of keys, and a couple are. Have been identified as basically safety deposit box.

[John]

Oh, but you got to find the bank. This is like a free for all.

[Brady]

Every one of them in. In Denver. That she figured that her aunt.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And that's not ours.

[John]

So her aunt passed away and left you like a game. Yeah, it's like a. Like a whole game of go through. What do you think? Like. Because if somebody. If I died and the key situation would be confusing for me too.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

I got loads of keys from old houses, from other people's houses.

[Brady]

Everyone has loads of keys. There's like a drawer that would have.

[John]

Exactly. I got no idea what any of this stuff is. In fact, when I redid my house, I redid a back storage facility thing. It's got five doors on it.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

And each one has a different key. I don't lock those because I don't know what key goes where. I'd stand out there for two hours trying to figure out which keys go to this. I have a bike lock. I don't understand where that key is. I have the. The bike rack on the back of my Jeep. I have to dig a hole in that. I got 55 keys for that trailer hitch. Trailer hitch things. Oh, disaster. So keys. That's the worst. And she didn't leave any. Like. So that's why you got all that paper. You got to.

[Unidentified Male 2]

Yeah.

[Brady]

There might be a crumb in one of those boxes.

[John]

You're like. You and Ronnie are kind of hoping for maybe. Jackpot.

[Brady]

Well, the thing that's interesting because her aunt was always known. She always did a lot of stuff. Like. I mean, she would save cash and did transactions in cash.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And so when all.

[John]

Since she passed away, where's the cash?

[Brady]

Yep.

[John]

Unless she was just running. I got cash now and then. That's all I had.

[Brady]

Yeah. Well, no, at the time she's got her. You know, she had a retirement stuff and all that. But she always would have. She always felt like I gotta have this reserve, you know, so much Right. Liquid, ready to go. Rather than. She had a shoebox electronically.

[John]

So maybe she just. Maybe she was just playing the game.

[Brady]

There was a safe.

[John]

There was anything in it.

[Brady]

Nope.

[John]

That's the sign. That's the signs of a person who's running. One to one. There's cash. One to one. Yeah. What about her credit situation? She have credit cards? Could she get credit? Maybe that's what she was running cash.

[Brady]

She did. And she had one. One credit card through one of the banks.

[John]

But did it. Yeah, but multiple. Find other credit company. Because if she's running cash, there's two reasons why. She's crazy. Or she couldn't get Anything off of credit anymore or pay for it because crazy millionaires run the cash.

[Brady]

You know, ETN the last couple years she did some work on her house.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

So she did take a little second.

[John]

Out to a second mortgage. Yeah, well, if she had cash, she wouldn't have done that.

[Brady]

I know. Which is interesting.

[John]

You don't take a second out if you can pay for it with cash.

[Brady]

And the fact that there is hardly any anything left on the second she passed away.

[John]

The Brady mystery. I like this. Ask David said ask Brady if there's a generator in that pod. Was there? Did you get your generator back in your own? Kind of weird. No.

[Brady]

But I got a nice, nice new set of tools.

[John]

Hey, that's good. You're going to keep them? Oh yeah, yeah. A good set. Some craftsman, some snap on. Good brand name.

[Brady]

Some cobalt.

[John]

Cobalt. Nice. Very good. Something I've heard of. That's all. I really. I don't know if I could use them. I just know that if you have tools that has a name that isn't Chinese.

[Brady]

I mean the. Yeah, the set was really nice and had.

[John]

Yeah. Real men will make funny if you come in with your Cobinkos. What the hell are these? I don't know.

[Brady]

You'll like this. I wish I would have taken a picture. I'll get it this morning. But I have it up on my shelf now and it's for something for Kirby eventually to tap in. My Ronnie's aunt.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Owned a. She made the ovens, the kilns for glassblowing artists.

[John]

She made them.

[Brady]

Made them. She has. It was called Denver Glass.

[John]

Okay.

[Brady]

And had a very good reputation too for.

[John]

For the glass blowing. Very small group of people, but yes, it is.

[Brady]

But universities would buy. Sure. So anyway, she's got some stuff artists have made throughout, you know, little collection.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And one of the things is valued at like 900 bucks. It's a glass blown bong.

[John]

All right. Kirby's gonna.

[Brady]

Put that up on my. Hey, man.

[John]

He thinks I haven't even used it already. I smelled the thing on the pod, man. Yeah, of course she's gonna have that and it's gonna sit in your ear.

[Brady]

I'm hoping Chihuly made this one.

[John]

Yeah, it's pretty good. Some one eyed bongs coming at you. I like that.

[Brady]

It's like a vine growing and it's got a gecko wrapped around it on the outside layer.

[John]

Very pretty. Very pretty glass bong.

[Brett Vesely]

Super weedy.

[John]

Yeah, that's so Colorado. So. Yeah. That's in your house. So nothing so Far other than the glass bong. You're like, whoa, this is.

[Brady]

And then there's some other glass blown stuff.

[John]

Anything you're keeping? You found that you were kind of surprised.

[Brady]

She had some art, a couple pictures. Ronnie went through those. Yeah.

[John]

Matches your house. Or it does. Yeah. Okay, that's good. That's good. It does it. Or is it being forced to match your house by your wife? And you can't say because it's.

[Brady]

No, there's three of the pictures definitely matched.

[John]

Okay, that's good.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Outside of that matched your artwork.

[John]

Like, you're not that racist stuff you hang.

[Brady]

No, I got them back up in the garage.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Football player with a yam.

[John]

You got one backup. You found a spot. You found a home for one of your racist dads from the 20s.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

That's all right.

[Brady]

It was the white guy, football, with a leather helmet, holding.

[John]

Oh, that's not a racist one.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

What happened to the lady? The big lipped angel? What was she selling yams, too? Peaches.

[Brady]

That's it.

[Unidentified Male 1]

It was peaches.

[John]

Horrible.

[Brady]

Those were yams.

[John]

Yeah, it was yams, too. Yeah, she was selling yams as well. And it was just. It was hard to be in Brady's house a couple of times.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Like, yams.

[John]

He had those prominently displayed. Displayed What?

[Unidentified Male 3]

They're real ants.

[John]

Okay, well, slavery was real. And I don't see that in your backyard. You should probably think about this food.

[Brady]

Labels from 1929.

[Unidentified Male 1]

The Japanese artwork up at Porkopolis.

[John]

That wasn't his RA. Racist. That was funny.

[Unidentified Male 1]

It was just farters.

[John]

Yeah. The other stuff was actual racist.

[Brady]

But you didn't Chinese.

[John]

Was it Chinese? I don't know. Whatever it was, it was funny. It was. Okay. You can make fart jokes with any race. It's funny. I mean, you can't have, like, what Brady was having was like a lady with a yam and a watermelon and those gigantic lips farting. That's still, like.

[Brady]

That's.

[John]

It was the black face of art. Yeah.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Is the caricatures.

[John]

Yeah. It was terrifying.

[Brady]

And it was like 900 years old art. And it said.

[John]

Oh, the Chinese stuff. Yeah, sure.

[Brady]

But enjoy the barbecue. Baked beans.

[John]

The other ones weren't. It was bad, but it was also kind of funny. Just in the. I can't believe someone's doing this way. So nothing that would be fun to get somebody's pod, go through their lives. I don't know that anybody. If I. It always. I always put myself in those positions. Like, if I got potted up, what would People be shocked at the art. Would be hilarious.

[Brady]

And you know what? I'm glad it wasn't like a huge pot.

[John]

Yeah. You didn't get a lot, you know.

[Brady]

Yeah, that's less work by 6.

[John]

Yeah, that's, you know. Okay. Keep it. Kind of lazy.

[Unidentified Male 1]

All boxes.

[Brady]

It was pretty much all boxes. And There was a 50cc Vespa.

[John]

Oh, cool. A little Italian thing, like a original vespa.

[Brady]

No, it's a.

[John]

There's a little buzz about the. Kirby's getting that too.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

Everybody will never ride that. That'll be rebooted.

[Brady]

Oh, it needs new wheels. It's been sitting.

[John]

And I'll get it. And Kirby will be. Be bopping around back and forth. It's the coolest Italian kid in school. Hey, man, I got a motorbike, man.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Kirby, you wearing a kaiser helmet?

[John]

Yeah, mine would be.

[Brady]

It's a Italian. It's got the Italian color, the helmet flag on green. Yeah.

[John]

My Barry Wood art of the. And the Donald Trump Pete. All the stuff J. Todd himes has painted for me over the years. It's down at the apartment. And that would be boxed up, because that would be something I wouldn't. And then people be like, oh, all right. Thanks. Because it's not a known thing. It's a interesting art collection. Oh, it's hilarious. And then questions abound, like, my history would change.

[Unidentified Male 2]

Brady there.

[John]

No Brady. We sold Brady. Some guys got the Brady penis painting. We sold that at our golf tournament. But I've got Barry wood as the baby on the COVID of nirvana with this huge dork. I have an actual painting that Jay did. Awesome job by J. Todd Himes to. To put that one up. And then the Donald Trump one he did for me, where Donald's wiener is just draped over his leg, and it's humongous. I have all three of them. I have all three of them in. Well, Warren Jeff's still in my office here. I just haven't hung it. I have Warren Jeffs with his penis out. All of them are wiener art. It's like Jeffrey Epstein had all that weird art of things like Clinton in a dress and stuff like that. I've got a few of those. But if I died unexpectedly and people went through my stuff and you didn't know if I was the last one standing, and then everybody. Nobody could explain why those things existed. Oh, it would change my entire hill. He was into some. But it's fun because it's Doug Hopkins apartment. Technically.

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[Brady]

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[John]

Morning sickness. So every time the people from the the apartment go, hey, we got to change the filters, we're going to come in and do a light switch and stuff. Because they'll do that. They just leave a note. And then they go into TV Doug Hopkins apartment and see these just dick art everywhere. And Doug always calls get those down. Those guys are going in on Tuesday. Like I'm not gonna have time to get down there. God damn it. And he's trying to get somebody to go down there and move those paintings. I'm not on the lease.

[Brady]

Well, two of those barbecue baked bean pictures.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Are in two different people's houses.

[John]

The racist ones you have.

[Brady]

Yeah. And the money went to one went to the save drafts now and the other to ma' am the clan. Yeah.

[John]

Oh, ma'. Am. That's different military system. Yeah. Somebody I used to bottom for.

[Brady]

Yeah, you.

[John]

Wait a minute.

[Brady]

700.

[John]

Hold on. You took your racist art to a charity auction and gave it to them as a sweet nice donation?

[Brady]

No, I did it on my own.

[John]

Okay, you sold it.

[Brady]

So I went to a barbecue festival.

[John]

Okay, I see what you and then.

[Brady]

Just went online, said if you want.

[John]

To bid on this picture, you should do a pod. A pod sale. Just open that pot up and let anybody rummage.

[Brady]

There's a couple of, you know, since she was in the artwork and stuff, I've got a torch. Acetylene.

[John]

Oh, nice. You get one of them blowing torches.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

For welding. And I have no idea.

[Unidentified Male 1]

All I know is how to spark.

[John]

Exactly. I'm not playing with that. I burn everything down. Blow it up. Oh, my hands would be on fire the second I picked it up.

[Brady]

Yeah. There's some tools there that are either.

[John]

Don't even understand.

[Unidentified Male 1]

That's like old school welding with the. With the tanks and all that.

[John]

Look it up on the Internet. Don't go crazy with time. Find out what it's worth.

[Brady]

Glass too. That is. That can be used for something. In other words, like rods and sheets of glass.

[John]

There's a glass plate in the ass.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Damn Groupons.

[John]

Years ago we did a glass blowing thing.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Glass blowing thing. It was actually pretty cool.

[John]

But you're never going to do it again though.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Probably not.

[John]

It's.

[Brady]

It's. You'd fire it up once or twice. It's almost like we had a. She had a kiln in the basement.

[John]

Yeah. Not doing that.

[Brady]

And Ronnie was thinking about bringing it.

[John]

Back and doing kiln stuff at your house.

[Brady]

Convert that to a pizza oven. Yeah.

[John]

That's the only thing you're going to cook in it. I was going to say immediately. If there's fire in a box, that's not going to blow glass. That's going to blow pie. There's no way. Yeah. I think the glassblowing thing is a lot like being an Australian shepherd. Like, you do it and if you're a regular dog, you're like, okay, that was kind of fun. Sheep are fun. But some Australian shepherds see sheep for the first time and like, oh, I gotta do this every day of my whole life. I think that's like glassblowing. It's one in every 10 million. Think I'm gonna do this twice.

[Brady]

And you can do some ceramics in it too. Like you want to throw your own plates, whatever.

[John]

And your own singing bowls.

[Unidentified Male 1]

You won't do.

[John]

If Ronnie wants that kiln in your house, she has to sell her singing bowls and get serious about it and make her own.

[Brady]

And it go. It would. It would go outside too.

[John]

Of course it would go. Where are you gonna put in your kitchen?

[Brady]

Well, she had it in her basement.

[Byron]

Yeah.

[John]

But she probably had ventilation for that 1800s house.

[Brady]

It was a cellar.

[John]

No. Yeah, that was. She was trying to burn her house down. That's dumb. Anyway, good luck with all that. That sounds awful. Just awful. At 6am on the dot. Grasp. We'll go with it. 6am code word for this first 6am box.

[Brady]

Grasp.

[John]

They get on the app, take it in the app, put grasp in the 6am slot. Try to get yourself a thousand bucks. We're off and run and start. And that thing as well. Yeah, I would like that. I would like. I would like someone I know to. My dad's done that. He's. He always tells me, like, when I die, here's my codes. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I need you to know my codes. And he sends them to him. Like, I don't even know what this for. I got about 35 gun safes. I want you to have them all. I'm like, you've been to my house. Yeah.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Too many guns.

[John]

I have. I'm like, where am I putting that? You'll find a spot for 35 safes. You have a giant barn. What am I going to do with this? I have hundreds of guns. Dad, I'm here. Listen to what you tell them all the time. I'm like, you're 78. You're in great shape. I want that to continue for as long as possible. Start selling off some of the guns. Don't make your death my job. What are you talking about? I don't want to sell all your guns. That sounds. And then I don't know what the values are. One might be meaningful. I don't know. And I sell it for like.

[Brady]

You're like, I'm not letting go of that.

[John]

Why? No. What?

[Brady]

I sell it, but I don't know why. I think you keep majority of it.

[John]

What are you crazy?

[Brady]

Just in case something happens. Well, he's waiting your 15 minutes. You can at least get an hour now out of it. You got more lead?

[John]

Yeah, well, trust me. My dad keeps telling me that the. When the Civil War starts. Right, everybody? My friend Dean came out a couple of weeks ago. We were talking. He's in Texas now. And I said something. My dad's in this. In the middle of nowhere in Fredericksburg, Texas. He goes, oh, the Hill Country. That's where I want to end up. And I'm like, why? And he goes, because that's where we fight back. And I'm like, what the hell are you talking. Well, when the Civil War happened, I'm like, oh, my God, are all of you this way? Is the whole state doing this?

[Brady]

You'll see.

[John]

Yeah, because he was, like, excited about the Civil War, too. And I'm like, why would they attack hill country? Texas first. Why are you guys so dead set on that being.

[Brady]

It is kind of fun to Prep for.

[Unidentified Male 3]

No, it's not.

[John]

It's crazy. So I told him and sell stuff. And he's like, well, you're gonna need some of these in case. I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm not fighting for food. I'll use one of your guns on myself before I'll start firing away on society. That doesn't seem good.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Put it to use. That's all he's asking.

[John]

Yeah, you'd think I'd be one of the people that's on board just plugging away, hungry folks coming to my house and bugging me, but I'm not. I'm not one of those. I would be one of the hungry people. I recognize my lot in the apocalypse. I'm going to be. I'm going to be one of the first starving ones. I'd sell all those guns for food, and then I'd get shot by one of them.

[Unidentified Male 1]

So what, you'd have a week with whatever you got in your house?

[John]

Oh, no, I would ration it up. I got. No way. I got maybe. Well, I mean, unless you count scooping out, like, the last of the ketchup as food you need to.

[Unidentified Male 1]

You can live on.

[John]

If I could scoop that out, maybe. My dad told me a long time ago, he goes, you gotta be. You gotta be smarter than this. And I'm like, what are you talking about? You've got a pool. You can filter that water that becomes drinking water. The first thing is shut down is the city services. That water's gonna be a commodity. Like, so there'll be, like, zombie people trying to fight for. Why wouldn't I just let them have my water? You're gonna need that. I'm like, I don't have a filtration system for the chlorine. It's gonna kill me.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Who is this they?

[John]

Well, them. You got to be careful of them. Yeah, they. Thems are actually starting to happen.

[Brady]

Hang gliders coming in.

[John]

He's calmed down about. Oh, yeah, he's calmed down about it, but he honestly believes that it's going to be a necessity to have that arsenal. And maybe he's right. But I. If he is, I don't want to be here now. It doesn't sound fun.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Oh, I'll pass your number on to my number onto your dad. I'll take some of those.

[John]

Oh, no, you're not getting anything for free. I'm going to sell them. And I'm just telling him to sell them and for himself before. Yeah, he knows the value.

[Brady]

Tell your dad to do it or have him have a third party. Because I already told you, end up. You know, once you look at that stuff, it's harder to say. Well, this was the first thing I have. Torps. 1868 Emporium from the knife collection.

[John]

Oh, the knives.

[Brady]

Yeah, we called us. The stuff that he saved and stuff. The 1868 Emporium. We'd get him pieced out. Every year at Christmas you'd get this package present.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And it came from his collection.

[John]

Old knife. Yeah.

[Brady]

Now I've got.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Your dad was laundering weapons through your family to me.

[John]

Yeah, the dumb one will handle it. I mean, Brady. Ah, geez, they said it out loud.

[Brady]

There's a good chance you get shanked.

[John]

At my house and come in, there's a hundred knives by a Lincoln age blade. That's good. I like that. Yeah.

[Brady]

A couple of collectible John Wayne pocket knives.

[John]

I'm sure my dad's got that.

[Brady]

Yes, he does.

[John]

And I. And I. Look, the first thing a gun, you know, Antiques Roadshow gun guy is going to do if I have to go through that is see the word sucker right over my head. He's like, oh, this is no good. This one's worth a buck and it's like a $10 million gun. I don't. I have no idea what he's got, and I don't want to be the one responsible for that. Like. And he's alive. He doesn't need all those guns. Sell them, man. Sell everything. Enjoy your life. I want my. I'm not one of those people that's waiting for any of this to happen so I can strike it rich. I don't. I don't want to inherit any. I want my dad to spend everything he worked for. I want it to be his and I want that to be all his. I don't. I'm not looking forward to that. I don't want that to be the case. There's always going to be something left over and that's it. That's. I don't. I want him to sell it all.

[Brady]

I've got one item that I. Just. One of the knives. It was a relative of my grandfather's. He got it off of a dead soldier.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Oh, yeah, it's a SS officer. We got that.

[John]

You got a German one and a Japanese one?

[Brady]

Yeah. You don't have the Japanese ones missing? Oh, I think cousin Jeff has that.

[John]

Cousin Jeff swiped it off. Oh, that was grandpa. Killed himself a Jap and got his glasses and a knife, right?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

And then another one of your grandparents killed a Kraut.

[Brady]

Yeah, it's a Mini. And I'm like, how do you put that online and sell it? Like, what are you doing with that?

[Unidentified Male 1]

Do you think there are kid Me, there's marketplaces for that.

[Brady]

Oh, there are, but it's just weird.

[John]

Just dawned on me. Do you think in Germany there's like a kid going, my grandpa's got an American soldiers, like stars and stuff?

[Unidentified Male 1]

Yes, absolutely.

[Brady]

For sure.

[John]

It just dawned on me that why wouldn't they throw that away?

[Unidentified Male 1]

Recognizing Japanese as well.

[John]

That's gross. Vietnamese. And they've got like trophies of American soldiers. That pissed me off immediately. Like, immediately thinking. And I got mad. But we talk about it for their side. Like, it's not a couple people that.

[Brady]

Have the collection of like, multiple helmets.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Helmets. With.

[John]

With the bullet through the helmet. That's horrible.

[Brady]

And they would write messages on their helmets too. Like you'd see that in.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Apocalypse Now. Yeah. Little messages on. He's got the German messages on the helmet.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Think about Private Huffam.

[John]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Watching that German soldier go by.

[John]

That's right. Man, I can't even imagine that I didn't think of them having American stuff. Makes me want to blow everybody up again. Let's go kick some more acids over there and start. Oh, I bet you there's Afghanis with American trophies. You sons of bitches. Oh, Wants me to drop a little sunshine on him right now. I don't know why that made me so mad, but we're talking about it the same way we got Japanese. Yeah. Oh, man, I would. You're making me angry. Day after Veterans Day. Who do we nuke today after that? This conversation's pissed me off. I wonder what they would do. Like if you. Like if you were a German kid and you came over to America and you saw. I remember there was a kid named Drake that came over from Germany as a foreign exchange student. And I got to be kind of friendly with him. And I wonder if he went into anybody's house and grandparents because that was, you know, back when World War II. Grandparents were still kind of hanging around a lot. And he probably met some people as like, ah. Crowds.

[Brady]

Oh.

[John]

And then that still hated Germans. They were trained to hate them still. And they had trophies. Ooh, that's gross.

[Brady]

Bob Ray brought back a.

[John]

The naked guy.

[Brady]

German woman married her.

[John]

Is that the naked guy?

[Brady]

The tank commander?

[John]

Yeah. Your naked neighbor.

[Brady]

Yep.

[John]

He. His wife rolled in one of the tank.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Naked tank commander. Oh, man.

[Brady]

Grabbed a FRW line.

[John]

You didn't tell me. He had war PTSD that no one had because World War II, they didn't.

[Brady]

Oh, he had some.

[John]

Oh, he had a lot. That's why he was naked up in the window.

[Brady]

Yeah, a couple. He was going through some stuff.

[John]

He was a disaster. This neighbor of yours. Wow. That's. And he brought back up Annalise. He brought back a prisoner and had three sons that. Oh, little Nazi Aryan boys. Oh, my God. Your Bob Ray story gets better and better. He was a mental wreck.

[Brady]

Legend.

[John]

He's a wreck. He was a mess. Was he allowed to work? Did you ever notice any of that?

[Brady]

So he worked for a beer distributor.

[John]

Yeah. He lost jobs. A lot of it.

[Brady]

Velvet Ice Cream. Which was a company. No. Selling it to retail accounts.

[John]

Holmberg's morning sickness. He sold ice cream when he got back from the war.

[Brady]

Beer and ice cream.

[Unidentified Male 1]

How to be on a sales call with that guy?

[John]

I'll whip my dick out. I got out there. I hate pants. Don't you hate pants? What did you say, Mr. Ray? Don't you hate pants? Please leave my ice cream emporium. That's enough. You wanna buy more vanilla?

[Unidentified Male 3]

I'm gonna show you something you'll never forget.

[John]

He just stood in the ice cream window naked.

[Brady]

Walked their pug, Winston, every night with a full size.

[John]

He named it after Churchill. This dude was. He never left the European front.

[Brady]

The biggest concern was when he's walking Winston in the.45 at night. We knew it. He'd always.

[Unidentified Male 1]

During the day, the biggest concern was.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Let me tell you.

[John]

In the window.

[Brady]

The biggest concern for us is Bob couldn't stand cats. And he's like, if one crosses my path. That's why I got the.45. Like Bob.

[John]

Wait a minute. He walked his dog in your old neighborhood. Which I knew.

[Brady]

Hunting.

[John]

I'd been there. There was no reason to carry a weapon. No, he had a.45 and a Pug.

[Brady]

Yeah. I don't know.

[John]

And he went out and he wanted to shoot animals.

[Brady]

Cats.

[John]

Only because he reminded him of German.

[Brady]

Must be.

[John]

That's exactly what you guys. Oh. Because you never ask questions in Upper Arlington. I'm going to tell you. Your biggest concern was him jerking off in the window to the kids next door. Second biggest concern was him walking around reliving World War II with Winston.

[Brady]

Winston lasted a long time.

[John]

I did. I think. I don't know.

[Brady]

Winston Churchill.

[John]

Yeah, it was Winston Churchill.

[Brady]

Cigarettes.

[John]

No, it was Winston Churchill. He already had Winston as a pet. Those were in his pocket. Winston Churchill. And he probably smoked Winston's because it reminded him of his great European leader, Winston.

[Brady]

And talking about having a collection of relics that he got from Germany. Their house was furnished with this wood. Carved china, cabinets full of Hummel and German crystal.

[John]

He fell in love with Germany.

[Brady]

Annalise had. You know, her grandmother or her mother still lived there.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And she would send stuff back. Part of. I think she came from.

[John]

Yeah, he was in love with Germany. He liked Alma, had some money, he wanted to stay, and he might have switched teams. My ex wife's dad had a twin brother, and the two of them would talk about Vietnam. Like the mall.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

And he went back after. When he got back here, he was working. He's like, ah, this sucks. And he. He became, like, vice president of Vietnam Airlines. He couldn't get enough of that place. He went to Vietnam and went, this is heaven. And he's just shooting at everything, like. And I said, why did you like Vietnam so much? And he goes, because it was all free. I'm like, what?

[Brady]

And he goes, they still throw that out there. You can live in Vietnam.

[John]

No. Wasn't the money, like, literally, American soldiers could steal women, houses, food, anything we wanted. That's why he liked it. He goes, there were no rules. It was all free.

[Brady]

I wonder if that's what Tang.

[John]

High on the plex, maybe. But he loved it. He loved it. And he. And he was like, I'm going back. And because it's just this. He loved Vietnam, and he never left. America sucked. His wife was Asian. They got divorced, but she. She was very pretty. Vietnam. Vietnamese woman. Didn't take her out of the jungle back in the 70s, but he got her in the 80s and. Or 90s, actually launched her. And she stayed up there in, like, Paso Robles, California. Pretty happy for a while there until he started to go, we're going back.

[Unidentified Male 3]

And she was like, no, go back.

[John]

No, because we're going back. I don't want to move from Vietnam. We come here. I marry you. I marry. I married Charlie for a reason. You're going back with me. And he wanted to be in Vietnam more than anything. Bob Ray sounds like a guy who was pretty nostalgic for Germany. He liked it.

[Brady]

He liked plowing through. Yeah.

[Unidentified Male 1]

And the layers of your onion.

[John]

Yeah, there's that. That Bob Ray story you need to start.

[Brady]

Usually you'd get a tank story from him.

[John]

Your biography would start as 10 pages and end at 10,000. Because the guy writing it would be like, finally, somebody's asking questions.

[Brady]

Oh, yeah, there's that time.

[John]

Oh, yeah, there's the World War II veteran who lost his mind that everybody acted like was normal. You were just told Bob raised nothing. But there was a. In your neighborhood, right? Now, if there was a guy back from Afghanistan that walked around in your neighborhood at night with a.45 threatening to kill cats and had a dog named Schwarzkopf, would you be like, he's okay. Kirby should know he's okay.

[Brady]

And I don't know if you remember.

[John]

Well, answer the question, sir.

[Brady]

What's the question?

[John]

This is one of the rose colored classes.

[Brady]

Would Kirby be okay?

[John]

Not would Kirby be okay? Because I know your answer is, he's fine.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Your imaginary man isn't going to kill.

[John]

If that was happening in your neighborhood, wouldn't it be cause for concern?

[Brady]

I'd be doing the same thing Bunny did. Knock on the door. Knock it off.

[John]

You would knock on the crazy veteran store who carries a.45 and threatens to kill the cats of the neighborhood, Try.

[Unidentified Male 1]

To be the guy in charge and.

[John]

Just say, that's enough of that, or what a normal person would do. Warn everyone, he's scary, be nice to him, but stay away from his house. That's what normal people do. You would go to his house.

[Brady]

You didn't have to worry about that. That was pretty much most people. Other than us, you were the only ones who would approach the house. Because I still was. I was. You know, David Ray was my age, and then his older brother, Muckrat Ray.

[John]

Yeah, that's right. So of course that's normal, too. The other families in Upper Arlington were like those Rays. Not for us.

[Brady]

Sure.

[John]

Okay. So it was known that they were crazy.

[Brady]

Yeah, because when.

[John]

Yeah, well, no, there's a lot of. Because it's. We know. The nudity.

[Brady]

When Annelise is storming out of the door, yelling in German to stay off the lawn or whatever.

[John]

It was a known fact in the neighborhood by everybody but the bogans, who wouldn't accept that anything's bad, that this was the house of insanity.

[Brady]

And maybe it was mostly me going over there because Annelise bought sugar cereal. I mean.

[John]

That's right. It's a German. Mom.

[Brady]

Eat.

[John]

You are a mystery man. And you just gotta ask questions.

[Brady]

Oh, yeah. Annalise, my mom. Would you like a little feed my son?

[Unidentified Male 3]

Would you like us a Sugar Pops?

[John]

You're a very portly little boy.

[Brady]

That was light. She had the Fruity Pebbles.

[John]

Oh, yeah. Good stuff. Well, I mean, Sugar Pops actually say sugar in the title.

[Brady]

I know, but it just doesn't.

[John]

You've had them. They're not as good. I like sugar pops. I don't mind the milk. Tasty. They make milk taste like. Like women's breast milk. I know that sounds weird, but I've had some. So. That lady shot in my mouth. I'll never forget that flavor. I'm like. It's like sugar pop milk. Anyway. Yeah. So that's what I wanted to hear at the end of that, which is you were the only ones that. That just acted like the rays were normal. Everybody else was being distant and cautious. Pretty much that thing in my neighborhood.

[Brady]

If I found out. Yeah, because the boys, you know, we. We'd go camping a lot. Bob would never go.

[John]

He could be in the woods. David.

[Brady]

Mark.

[John]

He probably wasn't allowed out there for fears he'd start firing away at anybody that came close, screaming, kraut. Kraut. He wasn't home.

[Brady]

You know, he might have went on one.

[John]

I want to hear you say it.

[Brady]

I want to know that.

[John]

Yeah, I need to hear you say it.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Bob wasn't all there.

[Brady]

That's right. Oh, yeah. No, he. You know, we let him.

[John]

No, no, no. You don't let him do anything. He was doing what he wanted.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Bob took seats.

[Brady]

Oh, we let Bob be Bob.

[John]

Yeah. Bob wasn't home. You get everybody else was on guard, but he wasn't. Oh, here we go.

[Brady]

He wasn't like the.

[John]

Let me recap before you say this sentence.

[Brady]

Okay.

[John]

Naked in the window multiple times. Had neighbors actually move away because of it.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Carried a gun for cats.

[John]

A gun to kill the cats in the neighborhood walking.

[Brady]

Not every time, but it may matter this time.

[Unidentified Male 1]

He doesn't have his gun.

[Unidentified Male 3]

He's out there gunless tonight. Everybody's overreacting.

[Unidentified Male 1]

It's a good day for Bob.

[John]

That normal to you?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

No. The answer is clearly no. Now finish your sentence before I gave you a little. You were about to say he was a. And then I stopped you. Because before you say.

[Brady]

The only thing that was fearful is going over there. Because he'd be upset. The boys would fight all the time.

[John]

Let's not go to the only thing that was fearful.

[Brady]

That was the one thing that was fearful that what? Bob would go to the belt.

[John]

He would beat the kids as well.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

That was what, those three little tiny gems. But we had sugar cereal.

[Brady]

As far as a belt or spanking. No, that was pretty common.

[John]

Oh, spankings are fine. Yeah, but you're saying that the neighborhood knew there was.

[Brady]

He didn't have to go to it a lot of times, but that was there.

[John]

It was Abuse doesn't happen every day, but when it does, you remember. I don't know what. I don't know what kind of punishment my friends got from their parents. I assume there were some spankings and I know there were some groundings.

[Brady]

Well, when John and Mark got into a fight and John wanted to shank him with a knife. Break down.

[John]

Where'd he get that from?

[Unidentified Male 1]

And where'd he get that idea from?

[John]

You grew up in an insane asylum. You don't even know it.

[Brady]

Shanking for their. They got Bob brought home some straw, like pea shooter straws that were designed.

[John]

What's that?

[Brady]

Like mini blow dart.

[John]

Oh, okay. Yeah.

[Brady]

And there's a bucket of them. So divide them up.

[John]

Let me ask you this.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Where do you get that?

[Unidentified Male 1]

Oh, back in the day, you could buy pea shooters.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

You could buy blow darts.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John]

When I was alive.

[Brady]

And it wasn't designed necessarily for the blow dryer. It's really a pea shooter. You load it up with teaspoon. Yeah. They're like rubber balls.

[John]

Oh, okay.

[Unidentified Male 1]

They were green.

[Brady]

Green.

[John]

All right. I don't know what that is.

[Brady]

So anyway, he had a bunch of them in there. And they're different colors. Divide them up amongst the three of you.

[John]

Just eye poker outers. I'm guessing it's mostly what they became. That's why they're not allowed now in the fight happened.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Come on, John is the 70s, you know, there was no choking.

[John]

I was a better time. I'm not gonna lie.

[Brady]

John accused Mark of stacking the division. He's got more peace shooters than I do. Escalated. Here we go.

[John]

So much like the war, one side had more weaponry. The older brother was time to attack. Yeah. Before it got too out of hand. And Bob bought them weapons.

[Brady]

Yeah, the peaches.

[John]

Well, is this a time when the police were involved? Anytime that Bob beat his kids or there was any sort of weapon play in the house. No, no, police never came. Even for the nudity.

[Brady]

I'm gonna ask. The only time they came is I saw some guys. They lifted the wrong house. When I was little. There's guys stealing bikes out of garages. Yeah, and I saw him come out of the raised garage.

[John]

The bike kid.

[Brady]

The thieves, they had a minivan or not a full size van, just generic white.

[John]

Yeah.

[Brady]

They took over 19 bikes out of our block. Because you have your bikes outside or. Sure.

[John]

You weren't worried about Upper Arlington except for Bob Ray walking around shooting the cats.

[Unidentified Male 1]

I'm gonna ask a question I think I know the answer to.

[John]

Oh, My God.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Whatever became of the Ray boys?

[Brady]

Mark is buried. Has a daughter.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Married or buried?

[John]

Married or buried? I heard buried.

[Brady]

He's married.

[John]

Okay. He's been buried.

[Brady]

Might be divorced now. Mark had a little. Struggled with the bottle. A little psychotic break. All right. I was one for two.

[John]

Yeah. No, one of them wasn't gonna make it.

[Brady]

It's an amazing out. Wildlife conservationist.

[John]

Who, the drunk? The drunken. Okay. Good Christ, man. Good.

[Brady]

David's a photographer and I believe works at the Columbus Zoo.

[John]

All right, well, there you go. Homberg's morning sickness. Thanks, Brady. Thanks for the trip down your poor memory lane. No questions. No questions as a child? None. Why was our neighbor naked? Mom?

[Brady]

Why?

[John]

Because they have severe ptsd. Do we know that? Now, a lot of Those World War II veterans and Vietnamese veterans, the Vietnam veterans, they didn't have the treatment we have, but they had the horrors of war in their heads every day.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Vietnam especially.

[John]

No one ever went to Bob and said, hey, he's the crazy veteran in the neighborhood.

[Brady]

He's.

[John]

Just stay away from him. You were allowed in.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Keep the firework.

[John]

You were allowed to go to the guy's house after the nudity.

[Brady]

I. So I didn't know about.

[John]

Yeah, but your mom did. My mom would have stopped me from going to the naked guy.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Well, there would have been an excuse why you can't.

[John]

You are not allowed over there.

[Brady]

Well, when.

[John]

When it happened the first time.

[Brady]

Yeah, I was out of. I was in college.

[John]

Okay, so you don't have to make it about you. It's.

[Brady]

I know, but. So it's. Exactly.

[John]

But you weren't going to the houses anymore, Right?

[Unidentified Male 1]

And let's.

[Brady]

Let's clarify that.

[Unidentified Male 1]

The first time it happened, where they knew.

[John]

They not even knew about it, where they did something, they finally put their foot. And you were already in college. Like that is enough.

[Brady]

Because he. Yeah, like you said, he could have been doing it multiple times. These were the times he got caught.

[John]

These are the times he got caught. There's one is too many multiple nudities and then neighbors moving. Bob Ray was an insane person. I want to go back. I just changed my mind. If time machines get invented, I just want to go back and go. You people are living in false bliss. Ask questions. Questions are the devil and the cancer to the truth. Like, no ask questions. There's a naked man next door. You guys are turning blind eyes when he's walking around at night with a dog named after Winston Churchill.

[Brett Vesely]

With a.45.

[John]

He hates cats.

[Unidentified Male 3]

You got no questions.

[John]

Let it be. We're all still here, right? Jesus Christ. Man, that is great.

[Unidentified Male 1]

On the flip side, we never would.

[Unidentified Male 4]

Have had the stories.

[John]

That's a fact. Yeah. And Brady wouldn't have this.

[Brady]

It was a joy living next to Bob Ray, I'm sure. Across the street.

[John]

Sure it was. I'm positive.

[Brady]

Annalise was a saint.

[John]

Yeah, that's right. And we're changing that now with the reality of what actually occurred, because Upper Arlington, you guys. I've been there. Let's pretend there's no problems. It's very weird. Nobody said hello to me. They just said, go, Buckeyes. Not a single hello. The bank teller. Everybody walk up and like, hey, how you doing?

[Unidentified Male 3]

Go, Buckeyes.

[John]

Okay, I need to make a withdrawal. Go, Buckeyes. I heard you. The hell's going on? Gas station.

[Brady]

Hey, coach.

[John]

Come on, guys. Okay, what is going on? Naked man up there in the window. Hey, you're naked. Get out of that window.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Come on, guys.

[John]

No, don't say that right now, guys. Weirdos. Anyway. Well, grasp, which is a reality concept Brady has yet to have. Grasp. Grasp it is. That's the word for 6am Throw that in the box and do that. Didn't intend to talk about Bob Ray again this morning. We learned more. 25 years and counting. And you trying to think of any.

[Brady]

Other Bob Ray store?

[John]

Well, yeah. Ask questions, call your mom, and say, how come nobody addressed Bob's ptsd? What was with the gun and the cat thing? Oh, there's nothing. Brady talk to another family.

[Brady]

I probably knew more about the. The gun and the cat. He'd always talk about hating cats.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Who else had repair on the block?

[John]

Time out. If he was all, we had two cats.

[Brady]

I'm like, bob, these are our cats.

[John]

Okay, you just proved yourself wrong, that you'd be the only one that knows that.

[Brady]

No, I'm not. Like, I would know more, maybe than what Bunny would know.

[John]

She didn't know about Bob's satiable appetite for murdering cats.

[Brady]

I think it was all talk. No, I don't think. You take your cats out. That stuff gets brushed under the rug. That's why.

[John]

You know what I want to do? I want to be gay with you. And I want to become an alcoholic and a drug addict because you're the most codependent person I've ever met in my life. You are. You accept everything and make an excuse.

[Brady]

I.

[John]

It was all talk. That's horrifying talk, though. I'm gonna kill all the neighborhood cats. But I swear to God, if I see one of those little Nazi bastards. I'm like, what, David?

[Brady]

I run him over with my car.

[John]

And not a single person said, hey, Bob, let's bring her down a little bit. We're up to a 10. We need to be about a 5 with the murder talk.

[Brady]

Oh, it was said by who?

[John]

You said that it was.

[Brady]

But it's so hard to really come down hard on him when he has this velvet ice cream in front of you.

[John]

He bribed you with treats. Don't tell anybody our little secret there.

[Unidentified Male 3]

You bet, Mr. Ray, you want to go cat?

[John]

You want to go roll some cats? I'm knocking them down one after. You think he. He killed a few cats? He ran over a few cats and then came home and people's cats were missing. And Bob never ever said a thing.

[Brady]

Well, in our neighborhood, we never had any cats missing.

[John]

Maybe he drove to a hillyard or something and drove over the cats there and then came home. Serial killers sometimes know better than to do it in their own neighborhood. They keep their. They keep their plate clean and they go out and dirty up other areas.

[Brady]

He also could have been raised on a farm, you know.

[John]

Okay, no, he wasn't. He wanted to kill them because they were evil. You can grow up on a farm and recognize barn cats have to be taken care of. Yes, they eat a bunch of stuff and then they breed and you got a whole bunch of cats running around and there's a chance he just hated the individual cat. And everyone in the neighborhood knew, right? You don't think everyone knew about him walking around with a gun wanting to kill cats? If he talked, you said he talked about it all the time.

[Unidentified Male 1]

That's on you guys not being responsible for the neighborhood.

[Brady]

He's patrolling the neighborhood.

[John]

When you say, good Christ. No, he wasn't. When you say, only you knew, was that. Here's.

[Brady]

No, no, I. I'm not the only one that knew.

[John]

Yeah, but you said you hold on.

[Brady]

To my brother, so, you know, again, I've heard him talk about it. It wasn't all the time.

[John]

You said all the time. I'm using your words.

[Unidentified Male 1]

No, if it was all the time, then everyone hope that everyone would have acted.

[Brady]

When you feel, has he been there? Might have been, you know, UA police came by one night. They're like, you can't carry that.

[John]

Put your pants on.

[Brady]

Yeah, get that pants on and put your gun away.

[John]

Start toting that gun.

[Brady]

Put both guns away.

[John]

We're not killing any cats tonight. Because I got worried for a second when you said I might have been.

[Unidentified Male 3]

The only one that really kind of knew. Oh, I knew.

[John]

And that made me just think that at night you were asleep.

[Unidentified Male 4]

Hey, kid, wake up.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Hey, Bob, put some pants on.

[Unidentified Male 4]

I hate every cat I see. From cat A to cat Z.

[John]

Do you want to go out and kill with me?

[Unidentified Male 1]

You were like Lieutenant Dan. He was. And you were Forrest. Holding the knife to your neck in the middle of the night, going through some. Some of the tremors.

[Unidentified Male 4]

You fat little German mother.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Cut your throat right here.

[Brady]

Bob, something bit me.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Bob, it's time for bed. Bob, you should go lay down. You seem angry.

[Unidentified Male 4]

I swear to God, you eat any more of my sugar cereal, I'm gonna shove this knife straight up your ass to cut your heart out the opposite direction.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Bob, you drink all the alcohol in the house?

[Unidentified Male 4]

No, my son didn't.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Good night, Mr. Ray.

[Unidentified Male 4]

I'm gonna take you down, you little fat cat.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Good night.

[Unidentified Male 1]

See you tomorrow.

[Brady]

What's with the pantyhose over the head?

[Unidentified Male 4]

I'm gonna that mouth of yours before.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Good night, Mr. Ray. Have a great night. He talks to me at night. Cause he cares.

[Unidentified Male 1]

Whispers in my ear.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Time for bed.

[John]

Hey, Brady, why is your neck bleeding?

[Brady]

What?

[Unidentified Male 1]

Oh, Bob Ray showed me how sharp his knife was.

[John]

Is he in your room again, threatening your life?

[Brady]

Yup.

[John]

This Bob Ray's a card.

[Unidentified Male 3]

Good night, Brady. Night, dad.

[John]

It all started.

[Brady]

I don't want to call my brother.

[John]

It all started when Brady believes that the entire neighborhood started to call his father Torp after Brady nicknamed him friends from college nickname. Yeah, that seems reasonable. We'll call you Torp too. Because you're named Torpedo after your card game skills with the kids. And everybody in the area just accepted it. That is not how.

[Brady]

That story isn't 100%.

[John]

No one earns a nickname from their kids with their college friends. High school, it doesn't matter. Not your high school friends. His.

[Brady]

No, his old men's my high school.

[John]

I understand that you're not following me. Your high school.

[Brady]

You're saying he had that name before?

[John]

I'm saying he used to knock down like crazy down there in Cuba. And his name was Torpedo because he was rocking them.

[Brady]

That. That name Torpedo. You think you did until 1979.

[John]

There is no truth to that.

[Brady]

Oh, yeah?

[John]

I met his friends when I was in Columbus and they called him Torp. They wouldn't.

[Brady]

That's how good of a nickname.

[John]

That's how dumb you are. Is that you believe? You probably heard it. Never thought about it because you didn't ask questions.

[Unidentified Male 3]

How come everybody calls my dad Torp? He's the Torpedo.

[John]

And then your dad's like Torpedo. You kids gave me that nickname. Not my friends. When I was in the Cuban Revolution. Torp was not his nickname. Torp.

[Brady]

Muckrat Ray.

[John]

Yeah. You gave some nicknames. I'm not saying you didn't.

[Brady]

You all founded in 1979 by you.

[John]

You were the nickname out hander.

[Brady]

No. Someone in the.

[John]

None of this is real. No fellow car. No grown man. Do you think that if Kirby nicknamed you something, I'd call you that?

[Brady]

Yes.

[John]

No. I knew you long before. I'm not going to do it. I'm having enough trouble. My friend Dorsey changed his name to Dean legally. And I still call him Dorsey all the time because that's what I know. Nobody that knew torp up to 1979 was like, hey, that's great. Let's just change everything about that. Those kids are right. Why didn't they just call him dad since you guys did too? That's not a real thing. You think it was. No, no. The whole city wouldn't have called me Torp. My son does. That's just weird. No, Tom, he wouldn't lead.

[Unidentified Male 3]

The fact everybody knew.

[Brady]

It's how well I spread the word.

[John]

No, that is not. Or maybe Bob snuck into everybody. We're starting to call Tom Bogan Torpedo. If you don't want your throat slit from end to end or your guts opened up from your nuts to your gullet like a two pound trout, start calling him Torp.

[Unidentified Male 3]

You got it, Bob.

[Unidentified Male 1]

You don't want to see me in a dark hallway.

[Unidentified Male 4]

You don't want me hearing you saying the word Tom ever again.

[Brady]

Okay. You got it popped.

[Unidentified Male 3]

From now on, Thomas Torp.

[Unidentified Male 4]

The kids won't have it any other way.

[Brady]

You bet.

[John]

Do you think his friends from college call him Toledo? No, nobody does.

[Brady]

Because that was founded here.

[John]

That's right.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John]

So why did you. 1979, why did your dad's friends from college call him Torp?

[Brady]

Friend from college.

[John]

I met two of them at the. At your house.

[Brady]

Tad Weed.

[John]

I met a couple of guys at your house who were your dad's card playing. Like a college guy and a card playing guy. And they were both about 80 and they both called him Torp. And ones I've known him since 19. Like that's great. He calls you Torp.

[Brady]

That might have been Trapper Dan Palmer.

[John]

I don't know who it was. I didn't pay attention. Trapper. All right. That's great. Yeah. Anyway, who were you? The kid in the cornfield. Everyone lives Here. All right. That was the guy. Yeah, it was. They hunted. They talked about hunting, and. I mean, that was the dude. And they've known each other forever. Yeah, and he called him Torp.

[Brady]

Yeah, because we started calling. We also called Trapper Dan.

[John]

All right?

[Brady]

Late in life.

[John]

It's not true. It just isn't. It just doesn't add up. It's like the Bible. None of it's. You can't.

[Brady]

It is contradictory.

[John]

It doesn't. It doesn't add up.

[Brady]

These disciples went out and spread the word.

[John]

It doesn't matter.

[Brady]

His name is.

[John]

Doesn't add up. Does not. We're working on it, but it doesn't. Eventually, he'll come to.

[Unidentified Male 3]

You have to worry about Bob reading of the gun every time.

[John]

Those are the types of people we're dealing with here. Golly, Brady, it sure is fun. I want to visit Bob Ray's grave and see how many people have, you know, vandalized a son of a bitch like he's the worst man in the neighborhood. There's just feces on it every day. This man ruined my life.

[Brady]

You'll find a pint of ice cream.

[John]

And a bucket of feces in a blue bell. Let's get a wake up song while you're typing the word grasp in there and we're trying to figure out what the hell went on. Give us that Wake up song. 585-9800. A good one and we'll scream it together. It's 98 KUPD.

[Brady]

Wake Up. It's not weird.

[John]

It's pretty cool, actually.

[Brady]

No membership fee.

[John]

I have heard enough of this.