11-13-25 - Entertainment Drill - THU - w/Dale Hellestrae - Was There Controversy In The Finale Of The Golden Bachelor

Summary

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Holmberg's Morning Sickness: Entertainment Drill (Nov 13, 2025)

Episode Theme:
A lively and irreverent discussion of recent entertainment headlines, sports picks, and a deep dive into the finale of "The Golden Bachelor," with added humor and personal stories from the usual crew joined by former NFL player Dale Hellestrae.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Football Picks & Friendly Banter (01:44 - 04:16)

• NFL Game Predictions:
  The group goes through upcoming NFL matchups, including the Cowboys vs. Raiders and Bengals vs. Steelers. Brady and Dale poke fun at each other’s teams, with animated debates over point spreads and chosen teams.
  • “You pick the game, I'll pick a prop bet.” – John Holmberg (02:39)
  • “I'll go with the Steelers.” – Brady (03:03)
  • Lighthearted ribbing about financial bets, vehicles used, and “mom cars,” full of the show’s trademark sarcasm.

2. React Defense & Zip Tie Training Story (04:23 - 06:36)

• Self-Defense Anecdote:
  John recounts his experience at a tactical self-defense course where he learned to break out of zip ties, used in a “hostage fight” scenario.
  • “Got zip tied up yesterday ... man, oh man, is that not as fun as you think.” – John Holmberg (04:31)
  • “You realize how powerful you are when you feel weakened.” – John Holmberg (06:12)
• The segment playfully digresses into jokes about zip tie relay races at Dale’s party and the dangers of allowing oneself to be zip tied (“You’re probably shooting me before you get me zip tied. Unless I guess I'm knocked out.” – Dale, 05:29).

3. Entertainment Drill – Celeb News Highlights (06:36 - 08:40)

• Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs’ Prison Saga:
  • News that Combs’ prison release was delayed due to making “prison hooch” (fermented sugar, Fanta, and apples), sparking a riff on strange prison concoctions like “jenkum” (made from toilet water, urine, and feces).
    • “Fanta soda. Where do you get that?” – John Holmberg (07:07)
    • “You are one amazing alcoholic to think: I’m going after this!” – John Holmberg (08:08)
• Pop Culture Tangent:
  Brief, comic references to “purple juice” (prescription cough syrup and soda, once popularized in hip-hop), and the cultural oddities of prison life.

4. The Golden Bachelor Finale: Recap & Controversy (09:32 – 12:44)

• Dale’s Connection to the Show:
  • Dale reveals he’s Facebook friends with a contestant, offering a quasi-insider’s perspective.
    • “For some reason, I’m friends on Facebook with a girl that was on this show.” – Dale (09:33)
• Discussion of the Finale:
  • Mel Owens (the Golden Bachelor) sparked minor controversy for initially saying he wasn’t interested in women over 60, but ultimately chose 62-year-old Peg Mutts, a retired firefighter and bomb technician from Las Vegas.
    • “He handed out his final rose to 60-year-old Peg Mutts.” – Brady (09:53)
    • “No one likes it ... my favorite part of the Golden Bachelor is … women who haven’t kissed a guy for years ... their faces look like they've been drinking Kool-Aid ... from all the making out.” – John Holmberg (10:39)
  • The group jokes about the physical realities of romance among seniors, such as “rug burn on their faces from his stubble” and the desperation of contestants.
    • “It's great ... fun to watch old desperate women clamor for one last shot at a payday.” – John Holmberg (12:00)
    • “I’m gonna pour this old beef out for as long ... she’s got like a squirt bottle of lube and just hope ...” – John Holmberg (12:18)
  • Uncertain bromance as to whether the bachelor was a former football player.

5. Sharon and Jack Osborne on Ozzy’s Passing (12:52 – 13:24)

• Podcast Return:
  Sharon and Jack Osborne returned to podcasting following Ozzy’s death, sharing touching stories of unexpected condolences received.
  • “Pleasantly surprised to hear from President Trump ... and King Charles paid respects.” – Brady (13:06)
  • “I forgot Sharon was on The Apprentice.” – Brady (13:17)

6. Irreverent Political Sidebar: Immigration & Health (13:28 – 15:19)

• Trump’s (Fictitious) Proposal:
  The hosts lampoon President Trump’s supposed “no more fat immigrants” plan, using it to roast each other’s health and prospects for citizenship.
  • “No more fatties, Dale! ... Good thing you’re already here because you would be out.” – John Holmberg (13:41)
  • Cross-talk about surgeries, chronic conditions, and who would be “allowed in” under this tongue-in-cheek policy.

7. Closing: William Shatner Q&A (15:41 – 16:18)

• Preview of Live Event:
  John prepares to moderate a Q&A with William Shatner after a “Wrath of Khan” screening, reflecting affectionately on their rapport.
  • “Tonight we should have fun ... me, Bill Shatner, and our friend Frank.” – John Holmberg (15:58)
  • “He wants to be called Bill, but I don’t know him well enough ... Mr. Shatner, it is.” – John Holmberg (16:07)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On “Golden Bachelor” Kissing Scenes:

  “Their faces look like they've been drinking Kool Aid for, like, a day and a half. They're just rubbed raw from all the making out.”
  – John Holmberg (10:39)

• On Prison Hooch:

  “You are one amazing alcoholic to think: I’m going after this!”
  – John Holmberg (08:08)

• On Old-Age Romantic Desperation:

  “It is so fun to watch old, desperate women clamor for one last shot at a payday ... or just a dude to be like, please, like. Like, I've got 80 cats. I need a man.”
  – John Holmberg (12:00)

• On Trump’s Supposed Immigration Policy:

  “No more fatties, Dale! ... Good thing you’re already here because you would be out.”
  – John Holmberg (13:41)

• On Moderating Shatner’s Q&A:

  “I have called him Bill once, but I didn't like it. ... He likes that I call him Mr. Shatner just because.”
  – John Holmberg (16:00)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment Description | |------------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:44-04:16| NFL Picks and Sports Humor | | 04:23-06:36| React Defense: Zip Tie Escape Anecdote | | 06:36-08:40| Sean Combs’ Prison Hooch Incident & Prison Booze Riffs | | 09:32-12:44| "Golden Bachelor" Finale Analysis & Controversy | | 12:52-13:24| Osborne Family: Condolences for Ozzy’s Passing | | 13:28-15:19| Trump’s “No Fat Immigrants” Satire & Medical Mockery | | 15:41-16:18| William Shatner Q&A Event Preview |

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Episode Tone:

High-energy, sarcastic, and unfiltered, with plenty of in-jokes, irreverence, and inside references. True to HMS tradition, the team balances pop culture hot takes with personal anecdotes and relentless teasing, especially when tackling “Golden Bachelor” antics and their own medical histories.

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For listeners seeking more than the headlines, this episode delivers the full, chaotic, and raucous HMS experience—complete with deep dives, weird tangents, and authentic chemistry among Arizona’s #1 morning crew.

Transcript

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[D]

You've been deceived by an agent of Satan himself. He's evil. Sitting right here.

[A]

Come on.

[E]

No, no, he's not evil.

[D]

He's just a bit rude. Let's get in trouble for. Ah. The whole time off the air, Dale talks about how he hated the whole idea of that party and fought and fought and fought against it until he.

[E]

I hate the idea of the couples shower.

[D]

Oh, man.

[E]

But being a grandpa is different, Johnny.

[D]

Sure, it's got to be great. It's got to be like me, the kids. I don't mind kids being around for a few hours. Go home.

[E]

Yeah, as soon as they start whining.

[D]

Or whatever, get them out.

[E]

Get out of here.

[D]

When they become kids again. Off you go. You get me more than you'll admit.

[E]

Yes. I will not admit it.

[D]

It's so true.

[E]

Are we not doing our picks?

[D]

We'll do our picks. Calm down.

[E]

But this is the Brady Report.

[D]

It's the entertainment drill and we'll get to that first and then at the end. Who are your Cowboys playing?

[E]

They play Monday night.

[F]

Yeah, Monday night. The Raiders.

[D]

They play the Raiders, their favorite. Who wins that one? We'll do your picks right now since you're crazy.

[E]

They had the week off. They had the death. Those are going to knock each other off. Win one for Neanderth. Cowboys.

[D]

Straight up Cowboys. Brady, your bungles are taking on my Steelers. You pick the game, I'll pick a prop bet.

[F]

Oh geez.

[D]

Okay, Dealers are five and a half points.

[F]

Five and a half.

[D]

Then since Pittsburgh.

[E]

Who did Pittsburgh play last week?

[D]

Chargers. Terrible game.

[F]

25:10.

[D]

Let's go.

[F]

Can the Bengals come on?

[D]

Staring at the phone's not going to do any different. Make a choice, lady.

[F]

I'll go with the Steelers.

[D]

Damn right. And for my props, I will pick the. Pat Friarmouth has a touchdown.

[E]

Okay, now you could turn it in this week. Shut up. Yeah, I forgot about that $33 fine.

[D]

No, there's no fine.

[E]

Yeah, you didn't turn it in last week.

[D]

Well then you kick in one of these weeks and maybe I'll pay you the 33. I forgot to pay my. Nobody's paying any bets but me.

[E]

You make the most money. You buy ugly ass. Four trucks. Hahaha.

[D]

It's a beautiful, beautiful car, Brady.

[E]

You get out of your aviator, you just look at John's thing, shake your head and go.

[D]

Yeah, it is cute. And Brady, for no reason. His came with four car seats. He doesn't need them, but it's a mom car. So if you guys want to keep your showers. Yeah, for your showers. And I bet you it comes with like blue and pink powder because you're going to need it a lot if you're driving one of those, because that's all you do is go to those.

[F]

Then we need a fourth pick and we'll go with.

[D]

We'll go with Brett's Bears. Just for fun.

[E]

Who do they got?

[F]

The Vikings in Minnesota.

[D]

Do we go against it for Brett?

[E]

No, I think Brad would pick the Bears this week.

[D]

You think he takes them again?

[E]

I think they're on a roll.

[D]

We'll take the bears plus the two and a half. Yeah, that gives us plus 1150 for our bet. Okay, so I'll place that right now and get that spot.

[E]

Oh yeah, you said that last.

[D]

I forgot last week. Now I'm gonna do it because I. You don't forget two weeks in a row.

[E]

That's just terribly stupid.

[D]

It's time for the entertainment drill. It's brought to you by my [e-mail], the home of tactical black self defense training. Got zip tied up yesterday. Dale at react defense. They threw zip ties on and did hostage fights. The way to break out of zip ties, man, oh man, is that not as fun as you think. And it's the big thick ones. And you have to really commit to just going boom across your chest to break them. If you don't, your hands stay. So you get zip tied. You try to get it and they didn't come off. Then you got to go fight with your two hands tied together. We had a blast yesterday. I was hitting these pads. I would just. You know how you realize how strong you are with both hands together. Oh, my God. The punching was so much fun.

[F]

That's what they did at Dale's shower. They did zip tie relay race.

[D]

I would have to zip tie me to stay there.

[E]

But how do you allow yourself to get zip tied?

[D]

Well, that's the thing. Maybe get bonked in the head, knocked out, you wake up zip tied. Something like that. Like you've been taken hostage. It was again, scenarios that have actually happened. That's what they go through. Like this happened to the police. Reports have this thing, guy was zip tied by the captors and couldn't break. But we gotta teach how to get out. And now they put like wires in them and stuff. It's crazy.

[E]

You're probably shooting me before you get me zip tied. Unless I guess I'm knocked out.

[D]

Well, if you don't have a gun, though, if there's no gun play and these guys are just bonking you or you get into a fight and they zip tie, you're trying to take it a little quick. You need to stay alive. Yeah. Zip tieing a guy's not easy unless you got a gun right to the head and somebody else is like working. It's. There's ways to get zip tied, but trust me, you don't want to be. We've learned how to break out of those.

[E]

And your wrists aren't all bruised.

[D]

You can get. You can get beat up. I got the lines.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I didn't get mine.

[F]

He kept.

[D]

I never got him.

[E]

You didn't commit. Oh, you.

[D]

Because I'm afraid. And then once that.

[F]

Once sleep in them.

[D]

Once that pulled a little. I'm like, I don't think I'm gonna do that again. I'll just fight with two hands. It was fun. My adrenaline was through the moon. You can do this for 89 bucks for the month of training. They'll get you in on this stuff. You don't have to do the zip tie thing with volunteers. But it was awesome. And you learned to do stuff like, man, what if this happened? What do I know what to do? And immediately, like, I can't get out. I got to learn how to fight like this. And you realize how powerful you are when you feel weakened. That's what the place does. It takes your weaknesses, turns them into powers. It's an amazing thing. 89 bucks for the month of training right now. Reactdefense.com. it's their 25th anniversary and they're celebrating by giving it back to you. It's the home of Tactical Black, Brady and Dale Entertainment.

[F]

Sean Diddy Combs. His prison release has been pushed back.

[E]

What do you do?

[F]

Says he violated a rule in. In prison and it pushed it back a month. Original release was supposed to be May 8, 2028. Now it's June 4, 2028. He was making prison hooch. Got busted.

[D]

He was making jenkum.

[F]

No, not jenkum. It was fermented sugar, Fanta soda and apples. Ew.

[D]

Fanta soda. Where do you get that?

[F]

It must. That's one of the things I'd be.

[E]

In the vending machines.

[D]

That's still a thing. I haven't had fanta since I was a kid.

[F]

It's gotta be. It's gotta be in the bottle too, because I don't know if they'd allow them to have the vending machine cans and stuff. Take the.

[E]

I don't know if they allow them have bottles, Brady.

[D]

Yeah, the prisoners, the glass bottle.

[F]

They have the 2 liter bottle and.

[D]

Then they going to shove that up a guy's ass if you have one of those. I don't think that's a thing.

[F]

That's why they're okay with the bottles.

[D]

Then zip time and. Yeah, the bottles and the. Yeah, it's not going. Probably just a paper cup. A Fanta. It's better than the other one. You know what jankum is, Dale? It's where you take toilet water. And what was the other stuff?

[F]

Your urine and poop.

[D]

Your urine and your poop. And you ferment it. You put it in like a little mason jar, put it up by the window, and it turns into liquor.

[E]

How do you even start? Like who even goes, huh? I wonder what would happen.

[D]

You are one amazing alcoholic. To think I'm going after this. Yeah, cuz you read about it. Once you find out that that'll ferment into something. They added something Else. Yeah, it's got to be like a.

[F]

Fruit or sugar or.

[D]

Yeah, I don't remember what it was, but yeah, sanitizer. It could be something with alcohol in it. Wow. Pop it in there and it. That's what jenkum is. And then purple juice, of course is the. The robitussin and some sort of soda or something. I don't know what that is. Something else in there. That's what Jamarcus Russell used to drink a lot of.

[F]

Got purple juice hooked on it pretty good.

[E]

Really?

[D]

Yeah. That's why he walked around dumb all the time.

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[E]

Holmberg's Morning Sickness. Why do you keep hacking on me?

[D]

Yeah, he's got the COVID I was covering my mouth.

[E]

All right.

[D]

Go brain.

[F]

Dale's got a great story.

[E]

Okay, well, what's interesting about this is for some reason I'm friends on Facebook with a girl that was on this show.

[D]

What?

[E]

The Golden Bachelor. Mel Owens caught flack for saying he wasn't interested in a lady over 60.

[D]

Yeah, he's. He's a human male.

[E]

But last night he handed his final rose to a 62 year old woman. Oh, do you remember a few months ago, blah, blah, blah. The Golden Bachelor finale aired last night and no, he did. He handed out his final rose to 60 year old peg Mutts. And she's a retired firefighter tech from Las Vegas.

[D]

How old is he?

[F]

I think he's 62.

[D]

Yeah, she's 62.

[E]

Also, Mel gave Peg a ring in the finale. But while they're still together, they're not engaged. But there's a girl. I think she was a former cowboy.

[D]

Cheerleader and she's on your Facebook page. Just saying. Hey, Dale. She was one of the finalists for the Golden Bachelor.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[D]

No one likes it. You know what? I've always talked about this. My favorite part of the Golden Bachelor is the first couple days of the show. There's these women who haven't kissed a guy for years. They're either, you know, frigid old ladies or widows or something. And so they haven't. So their faces are super soft. And you know from aging that your stubble gets really hard. So the Golden Bachelor is making out with all these broads, and then they go into their little room to talk about it, and their faces look like they've been drinking Kool aid for, like, a day and a half. They're just rubbed raw from all the making out because their tongues haven't touched tongues with anyone else for.

[E]

Have you actually watched a episode? Golden Bachelor?

[D]

Loved it.

[E]

Really?

[D]

Because it was just, hi, how are you? I'm just so excited to meet you. And then they take that stubble.

[F]

And I watched episode one where they introduced all that.

[D]

Oh. And then he makes out with half of them. And it is so good because they. They get rug burn on their faces from his stubble because it's the first time they've kissed in ages. Something that wasn't a baby.

[F]

He was 66. She's 60.

[D]

Okay, that's gross. I don't want to think about them doing anything, but it's hilarious.

[F]

At Las Vegas Bomb Tech. She's wild.

[D]

Golden Bachelor is hilarious because it is desperate.

[E]

When would you have to wait to be on there?

[D]

I think you got to be 60.

[E]

60 it is.

[F]

So there are a couple below 60.

[D]

There's a few understood. Like, the women can be.

[F]

Because he said he wasn't going to do anything.

[D]

I thought the guy had to be 60 and everybody else could be whatever. It's great. It is so fun to watch old, desperate women clamor for one last shot at a payday. Or just a dude to be like, please, like. Like, I've got 80 cats. I need a man.

[E]

I'm here with 15 other women. Yeah. Find true love.

[D]

I'm gonna pour this old beef out for as long hand. I'm gonna give her one last run. She's got, like, a squirt bottle of lube and, like, just a hope. That's it. Because she's dry as a cracker.

[F]

And was he the former. He was a former football player, right?

[D]

Oh, I don't know about this guy. I didn't watch this year's episode. I watched the last one. The dude was lying about everything. It was great. He was just manipulating these women.

[E]

Really?

[D]

Oh, so good. So funny. Because it's.

[E]

It's.

[D]

It's television desperation. Like, it's so sad and at the same time, great. Oh, you got to watch episodes of that.

[F]

Sharon Kelly and Jack Osborne have returned to their podcast since Ozzy passed away in July. And they talked about two people that they were surprised to hear from. Pleasantly surprised to hear from President Trump.

[D]

Yeah.

[F]

Left a voicemail. And King Charles paid respects with. Wrote him a little letter.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

For Ozzy. Dale hated him, but Ozzy was a legend.

[F]

And I forgot Sharon was on the Apprentice. Yeah. Season three.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

He left a nice little note.

[F]

And Jack was like, it was really cool because he didn't have to do that.

[D]

Did you like President Trump's New Deal? No more fat immigrants. He's not letting you in if you're fat.

[E]

Did not see that.

[D]

You want to come in here normal. That's fine. You show up and you sign up and you're overweight. You're going home.

[E]

Sucking up our medical.

[D]

No more fatties, Dale.

[F]

No more.

[D]

Good thing you're already here because you would be out. I don't like the big ones.

[E]

It's true.

[D]

He's booting fats. Really?

[F]

Well, it hasn't passed yet.

[D]

He would. It'll happen. Trump has.

[E]

He's.

[D]

It's going to happen just to drive people.

[E]

Who gets in first, me or Brady?

[D]

If you're trying to immigrate to the nation, Brady's out because he's already gotten met. Well, you both do. You're both medical nightmares.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

You're both drains on the system. Everybody out. Everybody out. You're both done. Yeah. You're both going to come over.

[F]

All be done.

[E]

Huh?

[D]

No different for physical. They can fix that. Yours is constant, chronic problem.

[F]

I fix mine.

[D]

Huh?

[F]

I can fix mine right now.

[D]

But you haven't. That's what I'm saying. If you were trying to get in right now. Well, no high blood pressure and heart issues and one kidney. And all this going on. You're not coming in here.

[F]

But don't you think it's expensive replacing things? I already did it. Well, done it. I thought you have to do it again.

[D]

No, you don't have to. It's not a chronic condition. And besides, it's not going to bleed them dry every day with pills and this and that. You got to take pills. You got to do this. You got to be careful. All these and it's going to lead to something worse. Mine's a simple surgery. It's one and done. They're talking about chronic illnesses, diabetes, heart disease.

[E]

What's your surgery?

[D]

Well, he's trying to compare me to him with this.

[F]

Two shoulders, two hips, back.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Class. Ankles.

[D]

I walk right in. I walk right in. Yeah, you can keep acting like it. Heart's on its last Thread and you're telling me that we're the same? You're crazy. I'm in this country first. They'd like. Let's let that go. Get her, get in. Give me a job in government. You two'd be standing outside looking in. How do you do that?

[E]

Johnny, can you get us in here?

[D]

No, I can't, sorry. No rah rah room for you. I like that plan. I like that a lot. It's 1014 already, Dale. You've wasted enough time. That's it for us. You got. Tonight is William Shatner night for me. Tickets still available. You got to go out there if you want to. Not many though, I'll tell you that. They're down to their last few. So William Shatner and I will be on the stage tonight if you want to head on down.

[E]

What are you doing?

[D]

I am moderating William Shatner's question and answer period after the Wrath of Khan. I'd done it before Bill and I go back. Bill's my dad. Frank's going to be part of that as well as guest, so it'll be me, Bill Shatner, and then our friend Frank.

[E]

Do you actually call him Bill?

[D]

I have called him Bill once, but I didn't like it. I didn't like it. No, he didn't care. I didn't like. He likes that. I call him Mr. Shatner just because.

[E]

It just seems like, well, what's he, 90 something?

[D]

94. But yeah, he wants to be called Bill, but I don't know him well enough to go, hey, Bill. Yeah, Mr. Shatner.

[E]

So you treat him with the utmost.

[D]

Sort of just on the phone, please call me bill. No, Mr. Shatner, it is, it's pretty great. So tonight we should have fun.

[E]

Literally, just a question, answer period. People pay money.

[D]

People pay money and they get to ask the questions. And so I get to sit and moderate all the stuff and then we tell stories and back and forth. So I was so good at it last time, they asked me to do it again. Meanwhile, you two are at the hospital getting EKGs and stuff, trying to get into the country. That's it for us. We're done. Larry's coming up next. Have a great Thursday. We'll see you tomorrow right here in the morning sickness.

[F]

Salaam.

[D]

Hey, it's not weird.

[F]

It's pretty cool, actually. No membership fees. Enough of this.