11-13-25 - The End Of The Penny And The Possibility Of Elon Musk Becoming A Trillionaire Has Us Talking Finances And Economics - Brady's 4th Grade Friend Ate A Penny And It Messed Him Up

Summary

Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness – November 13, 2025

Episode Title: The End Of The Penny And The Possibility Of Elon Musk Becoming A Trillionaire Has Us Talking Finances And Economics - Brady's 4th Grade Friend Ate A Penny And It Messed Him Up

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Overview

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness centers on the disappearance of the penny in the U.S. monetary system, the startling prospect of Elon Musk becoming the world’s first trillionaire, and broader musings about money, inequality, and value. The crew—John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Brett Vesely, and Dick Toledo—delve into questions about wealth, the level of financial literacy in America, and the inherent weirdness of both obscene riches and everyday finances. All of this is animated by the show's signature irreverent banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Penny is Dead: Good Riddance?

• Discussion about the discontinuation of the penny (05:20–07:00)
  • It costs almost 4 cents to make a penny; a nickel costs nearly 13 cents.
  • The group agrees the penny had outlived its usefulness. Holmberg jokes, “The penny's dead, so I don't even... A trillion dollars. You can buy all the cars.” (04:40)
• Rounding and Pricing in a Penniless World (06:46–07:17)
  • Frustration about prices ending in .99 and the inconvenience this presents sans pennies: “Just give me zeros and give me fives and we don't have to worry about pennies. Like whenever you say it’s 9.99, you’re making a mess of things.” —John Holmberg (07:17)

2. Elon Musk, Trillionaires, and the Terror of Perspective

• What could a trillion buy? (04:14–09:10)
  • Factoids thrown around: Musk could theoretically buy all the cars or all the Ivy League schools.
  • Attempts are made to calculate the number of cars in America and their value, resulting in humorous confusion and tongue-in-cheek math. “If we truly try to understand a trillion and how much it is, you just pound your face into a wall for a little while and then walk away.” —John Holmberg (08:31)
• List of Assets Musk May Afford (07:51–08:18)
  • Holmberg finds it disturbing that Ivy League schools and all the cars in the US could be lumped together at the trillion-dollar mark.
• Wealth Inequality and Envy (15:14–16:54)
  • “It’s going to cause poor people to get really mad and jealous that someone on earth has a trillion dollars... then you know, we're gonna have a bunch of revolutionary idiots.” —John Holmberg (15:14)
  • Discussion on whether extreme wealth truly bothers people or if the outrage is superficial: “I don’t care that someone has a trillion dollars. But some people get really upset.” —John Holmberg (16:07)

3. Money Mindsets: Richness, Resentment, and Realistic Aspirations

• Are the Rich Villains or Heroes? (16:47–18:22)
  • Recounting a prior guest—a comedian—who said he wanted to “kill all the billionaires.”
  • Discussion that eliminating billionaires would simply elevate the next richest as new targets.
  • Holmberg argues self-improvement should be the focus instead of resentment: “Instead of being mad at someone else's wild success, get angry at yourself for not having any.” (17:15)
• Do the Rich Really Even Have That Money? (15:25–15:44)
  • Mike points out Musk’s wealth is mostly in assets, not cash, further muddying conceptions of actual riches.

4. The Stubbornness of Inequality

• Historical Perspective (24:52–26:39)
  • Holmberg notes that the “rich get richer, poor get poorer” rhetoric is perpetual in human history. Recalling periods in U.S. history, from Garfield’s presidency to the founding of the country, he says, “It’s age old. It never changes. So you might as well just cave. When in Rome. Go for it.”
• Resentment Toward Executives and Layoffs (28:31–29:46)
  • The group explores the optics of CEOs receiving massive payouts while staff are laid off. They conclude—grimly—that “that's always been business for 200 years.”

5. Pennies: The Absurd Legacy and Childhood Trauma

• Strange Memories of Pennies (37:08–41:01)
  • Listener email prompts tales about swallowing pennies as children. Brady recalls a friend who allegedly swallowed and later “passed” 55 cents, bringing it to school in a ziplock bag. Holmberg is skeptical: “He was a kid who wanted a story in school, and he made up 55 coins. He'd be very ill.” (38:36)
• Superstitions and Value
  • Laughing at old superstitions (“Face down penny stays down. Face up penny is the good luck one. If you’re an idiot who believes that...”) and the reality that most people ignore pennies these days.

6. On Dick Pics, Generational Changes, and the Economics of Attraction

• Tangent on Sextortion Scandal (41:01–46:50)
  • After a segue involving a childhood penny-eating friend, the team dives into a true crime anecdote from Brady’s old neighborhood involving a septuagenarian and a sextortion conspiracy.
• Nude Photos: From Polaroids to Snapchat (45:05–47:20)
  • Irreverent speculation about whether their own parents ever exchanged risqué photos when young leads to laughter and disgust:
    • “I would assume it’s human nature. I mean, even back to Titanic, Jack couldn’t wait to draw her naked... The very first thing they ever did with a camera was take a picture of a naked lady.”
• Wealth and Sex Appeal (21:51–23:24)
  • “If I was a woman, you’d have no idea how rich my husband would be. I’d be a wag. I’d be a complete awesome wag. I'd be the wacky, funny, ugly wag. But I would do all of it because that is a lottery in itself.” —Holmberg (21:53)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On lottery fever and suspicion:
  “Never really see that [billion dollar lottery] in July. If it happens in July, it's rare. And usually it's probably if I’m paying attention around a holiday or a week that they know everybody's on vacation, dicking around, not having anything to do.” —John Holmberg (03:35)

• On the penny's passing:
  “232 years the penny was around and now companies are trying to figure out, well, what do we do? ... Just give me zeros and give me fives and we don’t have to worry about pennies.” —John Holmberg (06:46)

• On calculating a trillion:
  “If we truly try to understand a trillion and how much it is, you just pound your face into a wall for a little while and then walk away.” —John Holmberg (08:31)

• On Elon Musk’s fortune and inequality:
  “It's going to cause poor people to get really mad and jealous that someone on earth has a trillion dollars...” —John Holmberg (15:14)

• On resentment toward the rich:
  “Instead of being mad at someone else's wild success, get angry at yourself for not having any.” —John Holmberg (17:15)

• On the persistent power of history:
  “It’s an... It's never changed. Holmberg’s morning sickness. It’s never been different. The rich get rich... It’s age old. It never changes.” —John Holmberg (25:16)

• On pennies in wishing fountains:
  “No, it's a ridiculous amount of money that gets thrown into wishing wells in the world. Like, we're talking hundreds of millions of dollars... The dude with the Trevi fountain broom probably is a millionaire himself.” —John Holmberg (29:54)

• On sex as currency:
  “Women use their vaginas as currency a lot... If you have a rich husband, it's a lottery win. And if I was a woman, I'd be going for that.” —John Holmberg (22:53)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Main theme intro & lottery discussion: 01:45–04:14
• The cost of the penny/nickel: 05:20–07:17
• Trillionaire thought experiments: 04:14–09:10
• History of inequality: 24:52–26:39
• Discussions on dislikes of the rich: 16:47–18:22 & 24:22–29:46
• Pennies & childhood stories: 37:08–41:01
• Generational changes in nudes/sex discussion: 45:05–47:20

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Tone and Language

The episode is marked by irreverence, self-deprecating humor, banter, and signature Arizona rowdiness. The hosts embrace their own confusion about massive numbers, poke fun at American obsessions with lotteries and billionaires, and relieve the heaviness of economic inequality with old-school playground stories and no-filter jokes.

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This episode will appeal to listeners who enjoy:

• Jokes on the absurdities of modern finance and economics
• Honest talk about jealousy, resentment, and self-reflection around wealth
• The weird places “money talk” takes a radio show—childhood stories, rants about pennies, and generational debates about nude photos

In sum: The penny is dead, a trillion is unfathomable, and if you’re not a billionaire, at least you’re probably not passing pocket change in a Ziploc at school.

Transcript

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[Brady]

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[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

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[Brett Vesely]

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[John Holmberg]

No, no, he's not. He's not evil. He's just a bit rude. Good morning, everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Thursday. It is 5:45 this the morning sickness. My name's John. There's Brady. Brett's still sitting up. Big Dick Toledo's around here somewhere. We are ready to go for yet another glorious day in paradise. And the last perfect day for a little bit as the rain's going to start sneaking in tomorrow.

[Brady]

But snow up north.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, heard about that. My snow in the north might get some. Some ski weather going. And open those up right on Thanksgiving, it's a perfect time. Two things that almost seem fixed every year is that it snows right before Thanksgiving break. And the lottery hits $1 billion around the holidays every time. Every time. Is it Powerball or Mega Millions or whichever one is hitting $1 billion again.

[Brady]

Yeah. Make sure you get it right.

[John Holmberg]

Did it win last night? Well, obviously it didn't, because they were talking about $1 billion this morning. I mean, even if it did, we're always around 900 million to a billion dollars around the holidays almost all the time. Makes me feel like it might be rigged. Weird. It's got. I'm pretty sure.

[Brady]

I know you've gotten it through that app, Jackpocket.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah, I like Jackpocket.

[Brady]

I did it as well, and I've probably. When it's gotten to a billion, you know. All right, I'll throw it in. It just seems weird going to that, too, because it's. It's got an extra layer in there, like, am I really getting the ticket?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Is it real? I've done scratcher tickets on Jackpocket just for goofing around, and I've won a couple times. Pretty good, but never anything huge. But, you know, some nice ones, like, four, five hundred bucks on a couple of them. And. Yeah, that's neat. But, yeah, when I buy the tickets, I'm like, is this just throwing money in the pot? It is, though. Guess what?

[Brady]

It is.

[John Holmberg]

Even if you have a ticket in your hand.

[Brady]

And so basically, you scratch it on the phone or.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you can scratch it. And there's a little thing that just cuts to the chase, this ticket. But you do a thing, and you don't get any of that. Weird. It's got to be cancerous. The lead, the lead cover, lead dust, whatever that magic is that you can't brush off without. But it comes right off the coin.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I don't understand. How come I can't just. Why. How does it stick? But it does. And then it doesn't rip the paper. I don't get it. It's magic, that's for sure. But, yeah, it's a billion dollars again, whenever. Never really see that in July. If it happens in July, it rare. And usually it's probably if I'm paying attention around a holiday or a week that they know everybody's on vacation, dicking around, not having anything to do. So. Got all that stuff. Good luck to you. I hope you all win. I want to win it, too. So I'll be playing because once it hits a billion, we all get interested, which is really weird. That's a strange, strange thing we all do.

[Brady]

You know, when you think about the money, like what? You know, everyone does a scenario, you. You kind of daydream about, what am I going to do with it? What's the first thing you buy. Whatever. I just saw a thing on Elon Musk. If he becomes the first trillionaire. Yeah, they did some daydreaming for him. He could purchase every car in the United States.

[John Holmberg]

All of them.

[Brady]

Yes. And then buy all Ivy League schools.

[John Holmberg]

That's weird. It seems like the car thing would surpass a trillion. Every single car, like every new car. Not like it's all the cars in America. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Trillion is like it's unimaginable amount of money. And if he makes it, if he has. If he's worth a trillion dollars, which I still can't believe is. The thing is, he's worth a trillion dollars. That's maybe. I guess that's probably about right. I'm not good with anything past, I don't know, a couple hundred bucks. I'm still. I'm still mourning the loss of the penny. The penny's dead, so I don't even. A trillion dollars. You can buy all the car.

[Brady]

Yeah. And then, you know what else is next? A penny was 3 point. Cost us almost 4 cents to make one penny.

[John Holmberg]

3.8 or something.

[Brady]

The nickel almost cost 13 cents.

[John Holmberg]

All change has to go up. We don't need it anymore. There's. You just don't need it anymore. It's not going to be that long before paper money's gone. But they got rid of the. The penny. And now, you know, everybody's been like, when's the last time you even had a penny that you kept, that you've used. Have you used pennies in a while? I've never. I don't think I've been a while.

[Brady]

I found one the other day and I'm like, you know, the rock? Do I pick it up?

[John Holmberg]

Well, if it's good luck. I mean, you're an insane person. Unless it's face down. It's face down.

[Brady]

I checked out the year and it was after 1982. That's not worth it.

[John Holmberg]

Well, if you picked it up for good luck and checked it out and said, this isn't good luck, and put it down, you're gonna die tomorrow. That's how pennies work. They're like wizards, little copper wizards. But yeah, it's face down. Penny stays down. Face up penny is the good luck one. If you're an idiot who believes that pennies being tossed in the ground are good. I don't. I can't remember the last time I'm like, oh, I have a penny. I don't know that I've ever Been the guy who dug into his pocket to make change easier for the guy at 7:11. If he can't work change without my penny, he's an idiot. Anyway, you got a penny? It'll make it a lot easier on me. It's like, no, I'm not digging through my pockets for a penny. So you can just get.

[Brady]

Shut up. There's always that little bowl that they have that have pennies to make up if you're shorter.

[John Holmberg]

And it got to the point with pennies, we'd all just say, screw it, close enough. And then we'd round up. So the penny's dead. 232 years the penny was around and now companies are trying to figure out, well, what do we do? Stop charging anything less than 0 and 5. Don't give me yeah, round up, round down. Well, yeah, round up, round out. Well, they won't round down. You're absolutely right. But just give me zeros and give me fives and we don't have to worry about pennies. Like whenever you say it's 999, you're making a mess of things.

[Mike]

So because you asked, there are just over 3 million new cars on lots in the US right now. Which means a trillion dollars would get you an average car price of $333,000.

[John Holmberg]

Wait, the average car price is not 333,000.

[Mike]

I know 3 million cars. If you take up the whole trillion.

[John Holmberg]

Dollars with just the new cars, with.

[Mike]

Just the new cars, each car would.

[John Holmberg]

Essentially be worth 33,000. So yeah, you could buy all the cars. I don't understand. A trillion.

[Brady]

And then by the Ivy League schools, it had this list, you know, with what the trillion dollars could get.

[John Holmberg]

That sort of bothers me that all the cars are a trillion dollars. And like the what, 14 or 15 Ivy League schools are also a trillion dollars.

[Mike]

I think there's eight.

[John Holmberg]

That's crazy. That just basically tells you what a rip off college.

[Brady]

They're not a trillion.

[John Holmberg]

That's what I'm saying though. He could buy them all. That means. That means he could probably do it now if they weren't. But they're talking about a trillionaire and they throw that in there. They shouldn't even be whispering. Ivy League schools. And if you had a trillion bucks, you could have all 10.

[Brady]

So you could do, you know, based upon the average of a car right now, I think it's like $50,000.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, do that.

[Brady]

What times? How many? Did you say new?

[John Holmberg]

That's just crazy. I don't even understand that.

[Mike]

It's so big. I turn my.

[John Holmberg]

You got to turn your iPhone to the side. It's like one of those calculators I never understood. With the extra buttons. Yes. I don't get those. I don't understand math. But, I mean, if we truly try to understand a trillion and how much it is, you just pound your face into a wall for a little while and then walk away.

[Mike]

So if. If we said the average car price is. I put 52. For some reason, $52,000 pennies. A trillion dollars would get you 19,230,769 cars.

[John Holmberg]

It's got to be 19 million cars in America, right?

[Brady]

I don't know. That's.

[John Holmberg]

At 50 grand each. There's got to be 19 million cars. Absolutely.

[Brady]

But new, are you saying.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know. I'm just. I'm. Yeah. I mean, 19 million new cars is probably reasonable, too, considering there's 350 million people. I don't know how many cars are, but I go over 100 million, so we're talking 100 million. Some are dumpers.

[Mike]

I watched a guy yesterday, ultimately, 284.6 million registered vehicles in the U.S. 280 million. 280 million.

[John Holmberg]

I don't even know how to. Again, you might as well just be speaking Chinese. And, you know, only people who understand this are Chinese, because it's math. I certainly don't. So he could buy all 280 million cars if they're all valued at 30,000, let's just say on average, right? Because yesterday I was at a gas station, and there was a dude who was filling up oil, like, mobile oil containers with more oil, and he had in his trunk, and a black guy stood next to this guy, and he was sort of like, Eminem. He looked like Eminem. And the black guy goes, she drink any oil? And he goes, man, sucking it down. And I'm like, all right, whitey, you don't have to put on a show. Yeah, sucking it down, man. Can't keep up. He goes, I'm gonna drive it into the ground, though. And then he just had this oil in the car. And I started. I've never had that happen either, where I've needed to pour oil in my car, like, emergency style. Like, what's going on in that car that you have extra oil that you're. He's, like, making it in the back of his car. He was pouring something into an oil thing, and, like, he's. I gotta. I got a big bucket of it. Now. Wait a minute.

[Mike]

He's making two cycle oil.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know what he's. Yeah, he's like. He's like, two. Stroking this. He might know what he's doing. I don't know what he's doing.

[Brady]

He'd be keeping a couple of bottles back there and putting it in there, maybe. Because he must have an oil leak.

[John Holmberg]

So my brain is watching this dude in his trunk. He's got an oil leak. Absurd. I mean, he's not fixing that, but he's spending, like, tons of money on it.

[Mike]

Sure it wasn't like, stop leak or something like that?

[John Holmberg]

No, it was in a mobile one. Crappy cars, that great thing. So I'm looking at him pumping my gas like, we got a bomb builder over there. Nobody does that. He popped the trunk open. He had, like, three bottles. He's pouring all of them into a bigger bottle, and he put it in a grocery bag that was like an old Corolla or something, and he. And just let it die. I think the black guy and I were both like, what are you doing? Black guy's like, yeah, she's drinking oil, right? Sucking it down, man. And I'm like, all right, play us. Cool it, Kamala. You're not. You're. Yeah, you don't have to go nuts now. Just say, yes, it does. It sucks down oil. You're. You're vanilla white. Yes, it does, sir. It eats the oil. Yeah, sucking it down, yo. All right. He's not gonna hire you for his next rap album. I think you need to stop being a RA. That's racist. Most racist thing that happens that nobody talks about that is racist is when is Brady's laugh. White people get uncomfortable and start doing that. Hey, man, what's going on? Hey, yo, Play.

[Brady]

What's up?

[John Holmberg]

Now calm down. What was that? Come on.

[Mike]

Brady's authentic.

[John Holmberg]

I liked. I like Brady's big black guy laugh. You got a good one. And then when he took Mike Epson, his crew, he grabbed a basketball and led them outside, and shockingly, it was a hit. Like, I was like. I figured Brady was going to get beat up for even suggesting it, but they were like, yeah, let's do that. At six in the morning, we'll go out, play some ball sickness.

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[John Holmberg]

Holmberg's Morning Sickness but yeah so I didn't know what that was but so that car is probably worth about $2,000 and then you got some cars that are worth and a couple hundred thousand. So I'd say the average car of the 280 million or but I think we'd run around 20,000 used and new 280 million. So how much is that?

[Mike]

Here's a little better average.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know how to do a trillion on a calculator. I don't know if I it's just.

[Mike]

One with oh I don't know. So the the 286 million is all registered vehicles, trucks, motorcycles, everything. So there are 98.6 million passenger cars. That works out to an average cost of $10,141 per car. And to make so there's some junkers.

[John Holmberg]

That are so the average so he.

[Mike]

Could afford to give every owner of a passenger vehicle $10,141.

[John Holmberg]

Huh. Diggity.

[Mike]

And if you were to do all vehicles he could just buy them for $3,521.

[John Holmberg]

Unbelievable. $3,000.

[Mike]

All 86 million. Yeah. Times 3521 is a trillion dollars.

[John Holmberg]

I don't understand. Then he couldn't buy them because not all of them are $3,000.

[Mike]

Well I'm just saying you buy the.

[John Holmberg]

Passenger cars or it must be all new cars.

[Mike]

Either way has to be all passengers.

[John Holmberg]

It's going to cause poor people to get really mad and jealous that someone on earth has a trillion dollars. They're already mad at billionaires you get 1 trillionaire and then you know, we're gonna have a bunch of revolutionary idiots.

[Mike]

To go Pluribus on you. But it's. But it gets into. Does he really have the money? It's just all.

[John Holmberg]

It's out there. Well, it's valued, right?

[Mike]

No, I get it. He's got it.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

With this, with the, you know, new contract from Tesla puts him at.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, the trillionaire. That's the value of his stuff.

[Mike]

And by 2040. So he's got 15 years to get there.

[John Holmberg]

A trillion dollars.

[Mike]

He'll get there.

[John Holmberg]

And here we are wondering, like, what are we gonna do without pennies? No, we're not. Trillion dollars. And I, for one, my Apple pay.

[Mike]

Hasn'T lost the penny.

[John Holmberg]

No, no. Some people get mad at that and I don't understand it. I don't. I look at it.

[Mike]

It's the goal, isn't it?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I feel like, oh, it's possible. I'm never gonna get there.

[Mike]

No.

[John Holmberg]

I have to stumble across something pretty magical. And I just expressed how little chance I have because of my inability to work a calculator. I'm pretty sure I'm immune to what did I get to. But it's there. I get. I'm. I don't care that someone has a trillion dollars. But some people get really upset. There was a comedian in here a couple years ago, a young guy. It's like, I want to kill all the billionaires. And he said it out, change the world. Change the world. I'd kill the billionaires. And I'm like, well, then there'd just be a new tier of really, really rich people called, you know, the extreme millionaires. Like, there's always going to be something much bigger than you, and you kill the billionaire.

[Mike]

Create a wealth opening for those guys to gobble up.

[John Holmberg]

There's a bunch of money floating around that it's going to go somewhere next.

[Brady]

Man up.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, and I don't. I don't. It's like in Vegas. I don't understand when people get mad at a guy who wins, oh, that guy. Just because they didn't, they're mad because someone else didn't. I get greed and I understand that people are greedy, but you're not gonna stop that. So start working on yourself a little bit. Instead of being mad at someone else's wild success, get angry at yourself for not having any.

[Mike]

Brady, was that study sponsored by the General and Shaq? They're just looking to insure all those cars.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I gotta ensure that stuff. Elon, don't waste all your money on them. Cars. Unless you get the General. That's right, Jackie.

[Brady]

General.

[John Holmberg]

I have hallucinations.

[Mike]

John, maybe you know this, but Las Vegas already got rid of giving you change back at casinos.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, They've. They've eliminated all that. Like, there's no coins in Vegas anymore. Hardly at all. By the way, 6am code word to start it all off is chance. As in, you have a chance.

[Mike]

It's out there.

[John Holmberg]

You're not going to get it, but you have a chance. Maybe somebody I don't know. I root for that. I vote for everybody to have, like, massive amounts of success. I root for it.

[Mike]

Absolutely.

[John Holmberg]

And the people who start telling me how it's all stacked against them, everything else, I'm like, oh, well, you're not gonna do it. That's. You can't.

[Mike]

Whether you can or you can't, I'm borderline.

[John Holmberg]

I'm borderline retarded. I have. I can't. I can read pretty well, but it's like, not for a long period of time. Yeah, I read the words, but after a while, I can't comprehend them.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. It takes two pages before I'm like, what. What was that? I'm not very good at that. I can't do math at all. And yet. Oh, I've always. I did okay.

[Mike]

I've always had to rescan. Yeah. What did this sentence mean? Let me go back.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I. I did all right. I'm, you know, doing all right in life. And I'm an idiot. It's possible. And I think that's why I don't get mad at billionaires. And I'm like, maybe they're idiots, too, but I'm moron, and I did fine. And it's just a matter of getting out there. So I don't have a crew of.

[Brady]

Tax people and accountants.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, sure, you got to have people around you, but I'm just saying, it's like. It's. You're like. You're an idiot. Brady's an idiot. He did good taxes.

[Mike]

Haven't you seen Brady?

[John Holmberg]

They don't pay taxes. I'll see. Here we go. Red for Ed. God damn it. Living with a commie. Does your commie wife hate billionaires? Does she say it out loud.

[Mike]

She's not happy about him.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Why?

[Mike]

I don't know. Well, she got mad when I was looking at a used Tesla.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, because of Eli.

[Mike]

Hey, he's not getting that money, but if you.

[John Holmberg]

Yes, he is. He's got a trillion dollars. He'll find it. Yeah, it's that you can think, he's not. Eventually he's just going to give me that. But I understand the argument. But I also think that if I gave you a billion dollars and you were against billionaires, you would keep it. I don't think anybody's truly authentic when they say, if I would never take a billion dollars. Like everybo.

[Mike]

We've done that exercise how many times on this show, everybody, when a thousand wasn't good enough for people, of course. And then all of a sudden it was.

[John Holmberg]

We went through a time where we weren't going to give away money anymore because people were getting snotty. Right before the housing crisis, when everybody, for some reason, every listener of KUPD was a high on the hog. We gave $500 an hour away.

[Mike]

Every hour we had those callers, the.

[John Holmberg]

Calls would be like, hey, congratulations. What are you going to do with it? Oh, it's not that much money, really. I know. It's 500 bucks free, though. I mean, that's pretty nice. I mean, you guys could give away more. Maybe I'd get excited. And they refused to, like, like, feign excitement on the phone.

[Brady]

Well, you tell them, you know, you started a business and all sudden this business 10 years later is worth $2 billion.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

You say, no, no, no, keep me at a hundred grand a year and I'll give the rest away. And there might be, but it's very few.

[John Holmberg]

You're dinking around in the garage and you're like, hey, cool, I just invented something. And this little thing takes. I see it on Instagram all the time. You're flipping through, some guy did some dumb thing and he invented this silliness and he's trying to make money off it. And let's say it hits and you make a billion dollars. You wouldn't give that back. You'd be more philanthropic because there's great tax write offs. And also that's a huge thing people do is start giving to charities when they make money, because the more money you make, the less you have to write off. Except charity. So that's why these. It's galaxies and it's insane.

[Brady]

Helps their legs pass it on to the relative. That guy. I think if that started. Patagonia did like, half his wealth to charity, but it protected the states.

[John Holmberg]

Sure.

[Brady]

Taxes after, you know, he passed away.

[John Holmberg]

Super smart.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I just, I just don't buy it. I'm the same way with, like, people who are religious, but I question them. I'm like, you've never read the book and seemingly it's the most important book. Same thing with these billionaire haters. And I get it. Some people hate billionaires. I get it. This one says the same people who hate billionaires seem to love Taylor Swift and Rihanna. I don't know if that's accurate or not, Josh, but I like it. I'm gonna go with that. Young teen girls, women in their early 20s hate billionaires. But I guarantee if they met one that looked okay, by the way, they're.

[Mike]

Following two of them.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I've seen several. I mean, you know, with age you start gaining wisdom a little bit in certain areas. You know, Look, I was watching something the other day and I forget whose wife it was. He was an athlete and he was not a good looking man, but his wife was beautiful. And he just signed this new contract and he's making a ton of money and I'm like, if they're mad about success, they'll suck it up if it's a dude. Like, women love the idea of. I mean, you talk about lotteries, that's part of me wishes, like, if I was a woman, you'd have no idea how rich my husband would be. I would be one of those. I'd be a wag. I'd be a complete awesome wag. I'd be the wacky, funny, ugly wag. But I would do all of it because that is a lottery in itself. If you're. If women use their vaginas as currency a lot.

[Mike]

You talk about it every January up north, digging their heels into the turf.

[John Holmberg]

At the Phoenix Open. It's a pure lottery ticket search. That's all it is. And they're running around looking for their lottery tickets.

[Mike]

Story J Day.

[John Holmberg]

And I'm not mad at them. I think it's great. If I had that power and I could use my vagina as currency or my breasts. And it pays. I'm doing it. And I know there's people out there who get mad at it, but they're the same ones mad at billionaires because they realize they don't have. They can't cash that check. They don't look the part. But if you have a rich husband, it's a lottery win. And if I was a woman, I'd be going for that. Yeah, I'm not mad at billionaires.

[Mike]

I think it's Holland's Galaxy. She's in the Hunt family.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, the one that my friend Colin dated for a minute. He took her to Titanic and then got the flu and couldn't come back and she moved on to one of the Hunt owners of the Chiefs. Her name is Tony Munoz Hunt. Now, she did all right. She did very all right. Yeah. And I'll tell you, she could have fallen in love with Colin. And then one of the Hunt family comes up and goes, you are the most magnificent creature I've ever said. Colin is going to somehow or another start looking pretty awful, pretty ratty. She goes back to that house. Yeah, it's trillion dollars is nice. It would be nice to have. I'll take it. But I don't understand being mad at billionaires. This one says people that are billionaires most of the time have a lower salary than people understand. They get paid in stock options because it's non taxable income. Maybe. Maybe there's an argument that they screw around with taxes, but so would you and so does everybody.

[Mike]

I agree with that statement. But they're not making five figures.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, no, Everybody has the ability to give more in taxes. You don't have to pay what you say. You can. You can tip them. Nobody does it. No one ever does it. They just get mad when people richer than them don't. It's. I like rich. I like rich. And the idea of rich, it's probably a lot more.

[Brady]

I think what you hear now is the rich are getting richer.

[John Holmberg]

Okay.

[Brady]

People that are.

[John Holmberg]

So I'm watching have that sentiment where they can't.

[Brady]

They don't like rich people.

[John Holmberg]

I'm watching Death by lightning. Yeah, right. And it's the. It's the. It's one of the most magnificent stories in history in America that everyone's forgotten. And I love that. The very first screen grab of the whole thing is this is a historical telling about two men that people forgot. And one was the 20th president of the United States. It's James Garfield.

[Mike]

And we watched that show last night.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, did you watch some of it last night? Pretty good. Yeah, it's good. But I went back and I looked and I said, what kind of condition was the United states in in 1880? Like what? Like what? Strife could not politically agree between the two parties. They were fighting the whole time. Couldn't get anything done. The rich were gaining tons of wealth. The poor were dropping off the face of the earth. So all the policies. The rich were getting rich. It's an. It's never changed. Holmberg's morning sickness. It's never been different. The rich get rich 15 years.

[Brady]

Right. Okay. 10 or 15 from the.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you're from the Civil War, but. Okay, let's go. Then go back to 1775. What was the big argument. The peasants couldn't make any money and the rich kept getting richer. And how do we balance this out? We start the United States, go back to why they left England. Oh, we can't. Religious persecution. But they were keeping a thumb on us. While the rich got richer, the poor got poor. It's age old. It never changes. So you might as well just cave. When in Rome. Go for it. At least the US Makes it. So you can, you know, you can try to do it. It's nearly impossible, I'll say that. But that's what makes it awesome. I love the idea of a trillion dollars, but mostly for me, that's what I want. A trillion me dollars.

[Brady]

And, you know, I just think in order to have the universal health care, which a lot of people are like, that's what we like.

[John Holmberg]

Those countries are taxed a lot higher than fine. I look at. I was in a room with billionaires the other night. Didn't even know I was talking to one for a minute. Friend of mine comes over me, goes, there's so much money in this room right now. And I'm really. He goes, that guy you're just talking to multi billions. Like, no kidding. No kidding. He's like, yeah, he is. I forgot what he did, but he's just Ridiculous amount of cash. Artie Moreno was. Owns the Angels and everything. Multi billions. And you start hanging around, hobnobbing in those areas, and you realize just, they're just normal. They're like, they're. And then you can start to see, oh, women get lit up and men get like, it's. You know, there's a bigger lion in the pride. I love it. And I'm not doing. And there's the other thing. You'd be mad at billionaires all day, but what are you doing? Like, I don't do anything. Like I just said, I watched TV last night. I watched Death by Lightning about. You know, I'm entertained by it. But could I have been in a. In a lab somewhere learning or teaching myself something new? Sure. But I'm not doing that. So I'm not. I'm not trying to garner more success by getting better at being me. I want some, though. So a trillion dollars doesn't bother me at all. But some people want to kill them. And I get it. I get it. I get it.

[Brady]

Bent out of shape that he gets killed by somebody on the streets.

[Mike]

Well, Luigi.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, well. But nope, a lot of people weren't been out of shape. A lot of people made them heroes.

[Brady]

That's what I'm saying. Oh, good. It's a rich guy that's ripping people off.

[John Holmberg]

Right. But he just had a job and making a bunch of money. And maybe he was bad at his job. But if you're going to shoot everybody who's bad at his job, you're not going to be left with a lot of people.

[Brady]

It is tough to see a big company or whatever that a CEO exits and has this huge package or the CEOs making 400 times. But they're. But they're laying off people.

[John Holmberg]

Sure.

[Brady]

4,000 employees, that's a tough pill to swallow.

[Mike]

Yeah, but that's business. That's always been business for 200 years.

[John Holmberg]

But you were one of the people on the chopping block. Yeah. You were one of the worker bees. It sucks. It certainly does.

[Brady]

But you think, you know, some of that would. Well, if you could. The one that's making 400 times more instead of getting, you know, let's get rid of 4,000 people.

[John Holmberg]

No, you're some people to keep the thing nice because you've got. I get paid a lot of money to make those decisions and take that punch. I'll cut 400 people to be the guy that says, well, that's just where it is. I. I produce. This guy says, you'd use your vagina or breasts to obtain success if you could. Well, you have used your mouth to reach the level you're currently on. That is true. I have. Orally, I have. You use what you got, is what I'm saying. You use what you got. And you don't have pennies anymore, so quit crying. You got to.

[Brady]

We got to get through. What was it, 300 billion still in circulation.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, they're, They're. Look, they're going to be.

[Brady]

I wonder how long that will take to finally.

[John Holmberg]

It won't happen. They'll be in drawers and they'll be everywhere. We'll never get them all back. Some are in the garbage, some are in dumps. I mean, you know, bottom of the ocean. Every. Every wishing well, they're done. You go up to Caesars and go to the. The fake fountains that they have, the Roman fake fountains. And there's just people chucking pennies in there like crazy. I'd like to see the percentage of wishes that came true from the penny chuck, because they clean it every day. And there was some number I. Staggering. No, it's a ridiculous amount of money that gets thrown into wishing wells in the world. Like, we're talking hundreds of millions of dollars. They always throw Me, fountain people throw like, like silver dollars and that the dudes cleaning that up are making a mint. The dude with the Trevi fountain broom probably is a millionaire himself. Keeping some of it, putting some in the bucket, putting it in his pocket. That's pretty awesome. So, yeah, I like, I like the idea of millions. But the big loser here is Abraham Lincoln. But we've already got him on another coin. It's almost like they knew when they put him on the penny. Put him on something else. These aren't going to last that long. Get him on two. Is he the only one on two? Abe's on the penny and the five, right?

[Mike]

Jfk.

[John Holmberg]

Now he's the only one who's on the silver dollar.

[Mike]

Is that Eisenhower?

[John Holmberg]

Morgan Freeman, I think. I don't know. Silver dollar. It is Eisenhower.

[Mike]

I think it's Eisenhower, yeah. Or is it that briefly cent piece, Anthony?

[John Holmberg]

I don't know. I don't want any coin. I think they should just delete coins completely. Everything's going digital anyway. Just get rid of them and then you'll create more boring people who have collected coins.

[Mike]

Kennedy's on the 50 cent piece. What else is Kennedy on?

[John Holmberg]

Well, Kenny's only on one, isn't he? I don't know.

[Mike]

I don't know. I thought he was on two, but.

[John Holmberg]

Maybe, yeah, just get rid of coins altogether. The penny is dead. 232 years of penny, no more. They'll not make another new penny ever again. And it's good because I've pain in the ass. Getting change is the worst thing in the world. Give me paper. I haven't had even a paper exchange for I don't know how long.

[Mike]

Yes. Nailed it. Eisenhower on the silver.

[John Holmberg]

Eisenhower on the silver. You win. Congratulations. Now if you only had a trillion of those, well, you can have a thousand of them, I guess. Seems. Seems crappy now, doesn't it? You can take it in the app. It's nice. Thousand bucks still nice. But it's a penny to Elon chance. It's less than a penny to Elon. Chance is the word for the six o' clock hour. And that's how you get that.

[Brady]

The other comparison I like is when they take. They did it with Tiger woods and people that are, you know, at the time millionaires. And they said they're every day spending like $10 to you and I for Tiger woods would be.

[John Holmberg]

Oh yeah, when they used to. When Tiger.

[Brady]

A thousand bucks a day, right?

[John Holmberg]

Would be like us spending $10. Yeah, yeah, it was the. The. But that's the thing we start getting in other people's pockets. Well, he's got this much. And that's ridiculous. It's just ridiculous to you. If you had it, you'd be doing the same thing. I mean, other than I'm going to say this and it's going to. It's controversial. Other than a few obvious life choices that went sideways. Jeffrey Epstein had it figured out, right? Yeah. I mean, the island, he used it for evil, but all the stuff, he had that island. If you ever Google search that island, you're like, all right, how did you screw this up? This is awesome.

[Brady]

You know why people went there?

[John Holmberg]

I don't know when they're gonna turn that into a resort, but it was. It's gorgeous. And it has to. It's not the island's fault. We could still use the island. Spruce it up, get the team together and put some bedrooms out there. Get those Canadians on HGTV that turned that dump into. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. They had that Bahamas place and they went nuts and go over to Epstein Island.

[Brady]

Speed that one up. You want to get more people in on that?

[John Holmberg]

What do you mean, a couple?

[Brady]

It took a long time.

[John Holmberg]

Well, they had a hurricane that didn't help. Get over to Epstein island and start making that resort thing and change the name to whatever you want or even make it kind of a joke theme park and then move on.

[Mike]

Time is your hindrance. You've got a trillion dollars.

[John Holmberg]

First thing I'd do if I owned Epstein island is make it a resort. Adults only. That's kind of a funny joke on itself. People like, no kids allowed, just in case. Maybe it's the island that does that to us. Maybe there's some special fantasy island, special fog that comes off of it that makes you want to bang kids. I don't know. But Epstein island would be a place. You look at that on Google Maps and it's stunning. This was beautiful.

[Mike]

Isn't it ironic, John, that Puffy saying, mo money, mo problems.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, well, that's it. Everybody's got problems. Money doesn't make it so you don't have problems, but it's not. You don't have creditors. That's the thing. But get that Epstein island, turn it into an adults only resort. And I mean no kids. In fact, maybe even nobody who's ever had a kid. I don't even want to want phone calls back to kids. It's a singles and child free. They're talking about that now for the United States, you know, no fat people, no people.

[Brady]

As far as people coming into the country.

[John Holmberg]

You can't come into the country if you're fat, diabetic, you got health issues. You got to stay home. It's like, well, we got to come here for. No, we're not. You're not draining us. You stay home chunks and do the same thing for like, people dragging their kids in. Nah, take that back to your war torn, rabid man. It's not my fault. Or put them on Epstein island first. Epstein island is gorgeous. Do it this morning. Apple, get on your phone and Google Maps your. Oh, my God, the place is stunning. Even Google Maps can't, like, delete the turquoise around the island. The beauty that the Runway. It's perfect. I want to go is what I'm saying. Now that it's cleaned up, no more trouble. Would you go to Epstein Island? Free trip, everybody. Right? Absolutely. Like right now? Yeah. Brady's even. Not Brady would even go even.

[Mike]

Just some of the pictures of the buildings.

[John Holmberg]

Kirby can't go.

[Mike]

No.

[John Holmberg]

Not allowed.

[Mike]

How long?

[John Holmberg]

Two years, another year or so. But right now, she's not even like a whisper. So. No, I know. If even Kirby says, hey, man, I want to tag along. No.

[Mike]

No.

[John Holmberg]

No families, no nothing. Just adult couples. Nothing strange can happen to that. And I would be there in two minutes.

[Brady]

Wexner's probably going, I'm first in line for this island, right?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. He was in on it with him, right?

[Brady]

No, he. Epstein basically stole it. Borrowed 287 million from and never question it. After things went down like, well, there.

[Mike]

Was no worry about where he wasn't going to be able to pay it.

[John Holmberg]

Back with a noose. Didn't help.

[Mike]

Yeah, that's what I mean.

[John Holmberg]

Anyway, news.

[Mike]

This guy says he died of natural.

[John Holmberg]

That's true. He did have a heart attack with his neck. Scott says no more pennies. What are we going to hurl at you Jews? All right, that's enough of you. That's it. They're still out there.

[Mike]

That's how copper wire was made. How will we make it now out of pennies? Two Jews fighting over.

[John Holmberg]

All right, that is not how it was. Mace, stop it. This one says, have you ever swallowed a penny when you were little? Plug me like a sewer cap for days. I'm glad they're gone. He's got triggers with pennies because one kept him filled with poo. It was the original Ozempic. They just couldn't digest anything because he ate a penny. Holmberg's morning sickness.

[Brady]

Doctor. Our buddy Jay Blazey for his fifth grade show.

[John Holmberg]

And tell ate a bunch of pennies.

[Brady]

Past 55 cents and. Yeah, pass it. And brought it in a ziploc bag like two days later for his.

[John Holmberg]

Straight out of his. Out of his feces. I don't believe him. I think he just had a bunch of pennies in a bag. And he lied.

[Brady]

It wasn't pennies.

[John Holmberg]

It was coins. Whatever. He lied.

[Brett Vesely]

Of course.

[Brady]

A nickel. Whatever.

[John Holmberg]

You wouldn't a first that he lied. Brady, you bought a story. There's no way he swallowed 55.

[Brady]

His mom was in on it too.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, probably. Like she. You wouldn't poop them all out the first time. Like you wouldn't get all 55.

[Brady]

It took a couple days.

[John Holmberg]

Plus, by the way, you had to be sitting there counting how many you ate. It took a couple days. So we were sifting through multiple movements. That's not true. Didn't happen. He was a kid who wanted a story in school, and he made up 55 coins. He'd be very ill. Not 55 coins, 55 cents. Oh, I thought you said 55 coins. So he had two quarters and a nickel. Yeah, or four dimes.

[Brady]

Yep, exactly.

[John Holmberg]

Double nickels, five pennies. Either way, he made that up. And if he only came in with two coins, I'd be like, big deal. So it had to be a pretty impressive. Yeah. Your kid's an idiot. Yeah, I know. I told him not to do it, but he did. And then we sifted through his for a couple of hours. Yeah, mom wouldn't allow.

[Brady]

She didn't know he was doing it.

[John Holmberg]

Because he was making it up. He didn't know. That's all made up. He might have eaten a coin and thought, this is cool. And then he dug through it. You got to think about your friend at that point. This guy was attention starved. Like, he was not getting the attention he needed. So he brought a bag of quarters into work or school. And everybody.

[Brady]

I passed these.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, poop. Dug it. Dug this out of my poop.

[Brady]

I don't believe you. I'll open the bag.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you can smell it. Because all you have to do is rub it in dog crap. Nobody's gonna. Nobody wants to touch that. And the teacher was like, you little jackass. Sit down. Stop eating coffee. Give me those. Those are health hazards, you idiot. I was digging around in my own and found my coins that I've been eating. Sit down, Jay. I don't buy it because I've heard stories where kids, like, go over the hospital for a penny. They eat it, and it tears the tar out of their insides. Like leans up against their stomach and just starts burrowing a hole into. It's like some reaction with the acid in the copper or whatever they're made of. And all those kids, like there were kids in school, those hillbillies that would do stuff. And you're like, he's just making that up. He's not. He didn't eat money. And then. And then you have to think about why you're friends with a guy who did that. And then for attention. Dug it out of his. Came to school with the smile on his face.

[Brady]

For my next trick.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's creepy. Just rub your pet rabbit in a bunch of dog crap and have him come and just this. They ate it and I passed it. All right, Jay, you need attention from your parents. Something's not right at home. Does he still run with that story? He still talks about it a lot. So he's still kind of.

[Brady]

No, he doesn't talk about. I probably bring it up.

[John Holmberg]

You bring it up. You were very. This guy here, you were very impressed. What grade was this?

[Brady]

He was like in fourth or fifth grade.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that would have been a. And that would have been a family embarrassment in Upper Arlington. His parents would never allow us. Yeah, his parents would have never allowed that.

[Brady]

By the way, speaking. UA. Yeah, it's getting a little rocked right now. UA, there's a guy, that 76 year old man that lived in Old Arlington, where my neighborhood, he was. Killed his wife over sextortion.

[John Holmberg]

He killed his wife?

[Brady]

Met a girl, younger woman, online, and they had a relationship and she threatened she was gonna send pictures. Pictures that he had sent her, right? Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

The wife, she's got jerk off pictures. The Dave Ellefson story. She's got some tugging pictures and the girls.

[Brady]

So he doesn't want anyone to fight.

[John Holmberg]

Out, so he killed the. Which one did he kill?

[Brady]

His wife.

[John Holmberg]

Why'd he kill his wife?

[Brady]

Couldn't live with it for her. And then he stabbed himself.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, it didn't work. Oh, so he didn't kill the girl that was going to try to send the pictures?

[Brady]

No, he's like, if she doesn't know and I'm out of the equation, I don't have anything to worry.

[John Holmberg]

Because he was 76, he's just gonna kill everybody.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

So he's 76, he's got a side piece. He's still beaten off on the phone.

[Brady]

I think she came over a couple times where they hooked up a couple of times.

[John Holmberg]

And then she took photos of it.

[Brady]

He. Well, the wooing Process of. Hey, are you interested in me?

[John Holmberg]

He sended dick pics.

[Brady]

He was sending pics.

[John Holmberg]

76 year old dick pics. That should be illegal.

[Brady]

A lot right in there.

[John Holmberg]

Ooh, that's pretty good. That's pretty good Upper Arlington story there.

[Brady]

So I've been telling my friends, you know this guy? Was this your neighbor?

[John Holmberg]

Have you found a connection?

[Brady]

Are you friends with him?

[John Holmberg]

Where do you find a connection? Was he a member? No, but I have a Scioto Country Club.

[Brady]

I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

Oh man.

[Brady]

But I know. I mean the road that he's on, there's some nice cribs. He could be.

[John Holmberg]

He lives in a nice neighborhood. Oh, that's awesome. Those are good stories. Sextortion. You don't kill your wife, you kill the sex daughter. Yeah, right. Yeah, I would think if you're up for killing.

[Mike]

Good. The sex was John.

[John Holmberg]

He was gonna kill himself though. It couldn't have been that great. He couldn't live with him.

[Mike]

I think that's what he's telling now.

[John Holmberg]

That's why he stabbed him.

[Brady]

I think he was trying to frame her too. Maybe. They're saying she attacked his wife and then attacked me.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, he's gonna. So he had to tell. But if he's trying to frame her, he's got to stay alive. So he wasn't serious about his suicide?

[Brady]

Yeah, then it came clean.

[John Holmberg]

Killed the wife, threw a couple of jabs into himself, and then tried to say that Jodi Arias was in his house there for a little. I believe so. Oh, this dude's done. And guess what else? Those pictures are coming out in court. We're gonna see him anyway. Boy, you're like. As a woman, things aren't going your way when they got a 76 year old man sending you pictures of his gray wiener. That's the worst day of your life. What's your number?

[Brady]

Hi.

[John Holmberg]

What's your number? Why? Just tell me. Here it comes. That's GROSS. My dad's 78.

[Brady]

You know how many junk pics are.

[John Holmberg]

Out there of my dad?

[Brady]

Yeah, a ton of them.

[John Holmberg]

I bet she's done a couple. He's dabbled with the dick pic.

[Mike]

One of those work trips doing some kind of construction or something?

[John Holmberg]

No, no, no, no.

[Mike]

I just, just.

[John Holmberg]

He's just taking pictures.

[Mike]

Like one of those old.

[Brady]

Now he's on the ranch.

[John Holmberg]

I bet you my dad had.

[Mike]

He would have been in his prime, in his 70s, right?

[John Holmberg]

20S. He was in his 20s. I would assume my dad took some Polaroids of his dick at one point or another. I'm assuming that would have been like.

[Mike]

I'll throw that in there. I'm sure my mom did.

[John Holmberg]

Your mom took pictures of her?

[Mike]

I'm sure she did.

[John Holmberg]

That's gross. I didn't know your mom had a dick. That changes. Yeah, that changes everything. You think your mom was trying to get into beaver hunt or something? Oh, no, you're pausing.

[Brady]

I wouldn't.

[Mike]

I wouldn't. I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility. She's a single mother dating a married man.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, God. And she had beaver hunt aspirations in the back of Penthouse if it paid. Oh, man. I'm leaving. See you two later.

[Mike]

Just because you can't picture Marcy doing the same thing.

[John Holmberg]

Marcy wouldn't have done it. My dad wouldn't have wanted that. I'm sure my dad took some. Some snapshots of some stuff. Sent.

[Brady]

Sent some in for one.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, no, no, he didn't do. My dad would. My dad.

[Mike]

I don't know.

[Brady]

A different level.

[John Holmberg]

My dad would have found that repulsive. Like, he didn't.

[Mike]

And all of a sudden, Marcy gets a letter from Hustler.

[Brady]

He's not coming in like John Candy and Splash.

[John Holmberg]

Hey, no, he. But I'm. I would assume it's human nature. I mean, even back to Titanic, Jack couldn't wait to draw her naked. Like, I mean, you found ways to. To do naked pictures.

[Brady]

But I'm pretty sure sketching that guy, it was a good sketch. That was a very.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he was good at it.

[Brady]

He could have had a better room accommodations instead of.

[John Holmberg]

He hadn't really cashed in on the art. He was trying to cash in on the broadest.

[Brady]

Not most, but a lot. Die poor.

[John Holmberg]

They're poor. Yeah, Nobody wants your crap. But I would assume that it was probably burned. Like, there was Polaroids of our parents. I mean, what's the first thing we did when we got home? Movie cameras. We started filming each other naked. The very first thing they ever did with a camera was take a picture of a naked lady. Hey, this thing works. Take your pants off. Like, they were weird about it. Yeah, it's printing press stuff. There was a bunch of. The first one was, like, some nude woman. We couldn't get enough of it. So I'm pretty sure if I'm a realist, Toledo's mom tried to get in a beaver hunt, and my dad has some pictures of his wiener. And then the phone came along and made that a lot easier.

[Brady]

I think it's a combination. I think a lot of. They're also a generation of having an actual physical picture. They don't want that out there.

[John Holmberg]

Right. Well, that's what I'm saying. They burned it up. It was easier to get rid of it. It was tangible. It wasn't floating in the cloud. Well, if you're just taking Polaroids, there's no role. That would be the thing. It was the Snapchat of the day, just disappeared on its own anyway. Think of your parents doing that right now. And then try not to drive off the road because it's impossible to think of that. Yuck. Yuck. And as against it as you are, you've probably begged for pictures of Ronnie's boobs and stuff like that at one point or another. We actually made you do it on the airfield.

[Brady]

Yeah, I asked.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, one time.

[Mike]

Got a flat. No. Right?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. You guys never.

[Mike]

I didn't mean to use the term flat there.

[Brady]

Never.

[John Holmberg]

Ever exchanged any nude pictures, even in the courting process?

[Mike]

No, no, listen, I never did either, but never. We were older.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

So what?

[Mike]

Plenty of people in when I got divorced.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike]

Plenty flying around then.

[John Holmberg]

So you've done it?

[Mike]

Oh, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. But just not with Lisa. Yeah. Interesting. Hmm. I'll send you one right now.

[Mike]

We've seen him. I remember in your Summer of Love, there was mine.

[John Holmberg]

No, no, no. It had nothing to do with that. I'll do it right now just for fun. It has nothing to do with courting anyone. I'm like, you want to see a funny picture of my wiener? Okay.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Mike]

That I have not.

[John Holmberg]

No, I don't break them out unless it's like, we're really low on material, but. Here you go. Here's my.

[Mike]

What are you doing? Like, looking at the magnifier.

[John Holmberg]

Taking just some interesting angles.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Try to find an interesting angle.

[Mike]

Artwork, Some artsy photos.

[John Holmberg]

No, it never turns out to be that artistic. It's usually.

[Mike]

Is that the idea going in?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Trying to make it look appealing.

[John Holmberg]

Just seeing what she's like down there. What's this guy look like? What's the undercarriage like?

[Brady]

How close?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, sure. Doesn't bother me. That's interesting. Means you don't get boob pictures from a girl. It's like. Seems like waste time. It's like a waste of paint. You pay for your phone, might as well get something out of it. The word for 6am is chance. Take a chance. Put it in the promo code today and take it in the air. Let's get a wake up song, shall we? 5, 8, 5, 9, 800. A good one. We'll scream it together. It's 98K upd. Wake up.

[Mike]

It's not weird.

[John Holmberg]

It's pretty cool, actually.

[Mike]

No membership fee.

[John Holmberg]

Have heard enough of this.