11-17-25 - Wondering What Keeps Cardinals Fans Being Fans Of The Team - Draymond Green Retaliated On Fan Who Called Him Angel Reese - Still Contemplating A Reality Where Trump Blew Clinton And Asking If That's All Politics

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness (11-17-25)

Episode Theme: Why Do Cardinals Fans Keep Suffering? | Draymond Green vs. Angel Reese Taunt | Absurd Political Fantasies

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Episode Overview

On this episode of "Holmberg’s Morning Sickness," John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Brett Vesely, and Dick Toledo return to take on an especially miserable Monday for Arizona sports fans. The team dives into the ongoing suffering of Cardinals loyalists, the volatile Draymond Green/Angel Reese moment with a courtside heckler, and spirals into irreverent speculation about bombshell Epstein files and the tangled world of political scandal. The show’s signature blend of dark humor, sarcasm, and unpredictable honesty is on full display throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. What Keeps Cardinals Fans Being Fans?

• Opening Rant on the Cardinals' Futility

  • John immediately lashes out at the “sinking ship” that is the Arizona Cardinals, berating fans for their loyalty to a seemingly hopeless franchise.
  • He predicts an inevitable quarterback change (Slovis in, likely soon) and questions why anyone keeps “trekking out there, sitting in those seats, spending that money and staring at that product.”
  • Holmberg: "Told you for three weeks, Cardinal fans... it’s never too late to jump off this sinking ship. It is just a disaster to try to be a fan of that. It’s never going to get better." [02:30]

• Cycle of Coaches and Kyler Murray

  • Team discusses the likelihood of another coaching reset, and how Kyler Murray's massive contract "anchors" the franchise.
  • Ownership's insistence on change vs. the futility of swapping out one losing formula for another.

• Cardinals’ Lovability Deficit

  • Contextualizes the difference between “lovable losers” (Cubs, Browns) vs. just plain losers (Cardinals).
  • Holmberg: "Cardinals aren’t lovable losers. They’re not lovable. They’re just losers. There’s a difference." [34:00]

2. Weekend Recap: NFL Chaos and Betting Woes

• League Parity & Betting Disasters

  • Parity in the league has everyone’s betting results upside down. John admits he hasn’t got a clue anymore, "the more evidence we have, the worse my picks get."
  • Surprise outcomes—like the Chargers getting stomped by the Jaguars—leave the crew in disbelief.

• Brief Steelers/Bears Banter

  • Friendly trash talk between John (Steelers) and Brett (Bears) over their upcoming matchup, and relief at possibly not facing Aaron Rodgers.

3. NBA Drama: Draymond Green vs. the “Angel Reese” Heckle

• Game Recap & Viral Incident

  • John recounts his night at the Suns game, then pivots to a viral moment where Draymond Green confronts a fan mocking him by calling him "Angel Reese."
  • The fan, unfazed by Draymond’s approach, stands his ground—quite literally matching Draymond’s stature.

• Is Calling a Man a Woman the New Slur?

  • The crew debates whether "calling a man a woman" is the latest un-PC insult that society will clamp down on.
  • Holmberg: "Any man getting called a woman has a right to punch that man in the face." [13:36]
  • Draymond’s quote: "It was a good joke at first ... but you can’t keep calling me a woman, I got four kids and one on the way." [11:17]

• Double Standards and Gender in Sports

  • Questions how NBA players (who publicly support the WNBA) become so offended when compared to female players.
  • Ruminations on sports trash talk evolving alongside cultural taboos.

4. Politics Gets Wild: Trump, Clinton, and the Epstein Files

• Absurdist Daydreams of Scandal

  • John gleefully recounts the show’s earlier wild speculation: Donald Trump witnessing or being involved in explicit acts with Bill Clinton on Epstein Island.
  • They riff on the uselessness of endless political scandal unless something so outlandish and embarrassing emerges that it can't be ignored.

• Legacy, Scandal Fatigue & the American Appetite

  • Consensus: If Clinton is outed in one more sex scandal ("especially a boy-job on Epstein Island"), it would be his comedic end, but not much could shock the public anymore.
  • Holmberg: "If Clinton gets a boy job... The jokes will be hilarious and he’s going to die from that... You can’t be that old and have gay blowjob stories come out." [23:29]

• Hope for Peak Political Absurdity

  • John's personal wish? For the “Epstein files” to expose the most farcical, Roman-empire levels of political debauchery possible.
  • "I want us to have the Roman council and find out these dudes are just wild." [29:12]

5. Fans and Futility: The Psychology of Sticking With Losers

• Why Do Fans Stay Loyal?

  • John probes why Cardinals fans, and by extension, Browns, Jets fans, etc., continue to subject themselves to suffering.
  • "It’d be like every Sunday you’re gonna have cerebral palsy for eight hours. Why are you doing this to yourself?" [35:00]

• Difference Between “Badge of Honor” and “Self-Inflicted Palsy”

  • Cubs fans at least had a shared, cultural identity as long-term sufferers; Cardinals fans, he argues, do not.
  • Owning up to his own “for nothing” fandom, John encourages fans: “There’s a cure. It’s any other team.”

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Notable Memorable Quotes

• On the Cardinals’ Pain
  John Holmberg [02:30]:
  "What a tough sled it is to get on board as a Cardinals fan and trek all the way out there and sit in those seats and spend that money and stare at that product and say, ‘What am I doing?’"

• On Draymond Green Being Called ‘Angel Reese’
  Draymond Green via John [11:17]:
  “It was a good joke at first... but you can’t keep calling me a woman. I got four kids and one on the way. You can’t keep calling me a woman.”

• On Insults Evolving in Sports
  John Holmberg [16:29]:
  “I also thought that NBA players loved the WNBA and to be compared to one of their highest rebounders would be a compliment, but evidently it’s not. It’s just really insulting to be called a WNBA player when you’re in the NBA.”

• On Unthinkable Political Scandal
  John Holmberg [23:29]:
  “If he’s getting blown on Epstein Island by a dude, we’re gonna start caring... There’s no way Bill Clinton gets exposed [like that].”

• On Fan Loyalty
  John Holmberg [34:00]:
  “Cardinals aren’t lovable losers. They’re not lovable. They’re just losers. There’s a difference."

• On Dreaded Fandom
  John Holmberg [35:00]:
  "It’d be like every Sunday you’re gonna have cerebral palsy for eight hours. Why are you doing this to yourself?”

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:13 | Show proper starts – "Monday before Palladio," Brett’s return | | 02:28 | Cardinals’ misery, John’s open rant | | 04:32 | “Is this the end again?” – Cardinals coaching/roster doom spiral | | 06:41 | NFL pool chaos, betting woes | | 10:10 | Suns game recap, Draymond Green incident setup | | 11:17 | Draymond Green “Angel Reese” heckle incident and quote | | 13:36 | Repercussions of calling a man a woman; discussion on sports insults| | 18:25 | Cultural weight of gendered insults in sports trash talk | | 22:42 | Epstein files, Trump/Clinton scandal fantasy riff | | 29:12 | Wild speculation: Roman-empire level political debauchery | | 34:00 | “Lovable losers” vs. “just losers”—Cardinals fans roasted | | 35:00 | “It’d be like every Sunday you have cerebral palsy”—fan misery |

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Tone and Flavor

Throughout, the episode is classic HMS: guy-talk with sharp sarcasm, refusal to take sacred cows seriously, and wild creative asides. Holmberg’s deadpan disgust at sports futility, cheery irreverence about politics, and eagerness to push every joke over the line, keeps the banter kinetic and darkly funny.

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Summary for the Uninitiated

If you missed this episode:

• The crew destroyed Arizona Cardinals fans (again), urging them to question their masochism.
• NFL chaos and abysmal betting results were shared.
• The Draymond Green/Angel Reese taunting incident sparked a loose debate about modern insults and masculinity in sports.
• Politics got a farcical roast with the team imagining the only thing that’d make “Epstein files” matter: photographic proof of presidents getting obscene together.
• John’s throughline: Arizona sports offer pain with no “badge of honor,” and the only sane move is rooting for someone else.

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For Cardinals fans, political junkies, and sports culture watchers, it's a raucous episode of self-deprecating, no-filter banter—just maybe don’t listen with the kids.

Transcript

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[John Holmberg]

Morning sickness. Good morning, everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Monday, the Monday before Palladio. We'll get to that in a little bit. It's 5:45 there. The morning sickness. My name is John. Hi. There's Brady. And let's bring him back. Everybody, it's Brett Presley back in the room. Welcome back, Brett.

[Brett Vesely]

Thank you.

[John Holmberg]

Toledo's here too. Oh, no, no. Calm down.

[Brett Vesely]

So what's new, guys?

[John Holmberg]

The ying and the yang. How you been? This, that and the other. Yeah. Good to have Brett home. He's sitting here, the room is complete again and everybody's moving right along. And now I have to hate Brett all week because the Steelers and Bears play on Sunday and that's quite a thing. So screw you and your stupid bears and welcome back all at the exact same time. Wonderful things happen. And just Brett missed. I nearly killed William Shatner. And Trump. Trump blew Clinton. I think that's what you missed last week. Just. I think he's all caught up. Am I Wrong, Brady said. Allergies. Yeah, it's pretty. Pretty much all you. You had. You had missed a good week, man. Yeah, sounds like it. Yeah. We'll get into the. I'll recap the shattering thing off there for you, but I told the story on Friday that nearly killed him, and I've spent the entire weekend waiting for the news to break that he is no longer with us. And it's.

[Brady]

He didn't finish the tour.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but he did. The old prick went through Anaheim and I guess he's up in Napa Valley now or just finished last night. It's crazy, but I did my best to nearly kill him. I now know what it looks like to see William Shatner dead in person. I didn't think I'd ever have that in my bingo card, but there it was. Yeah. Let's talk about a little football first to start. And again, I've told you for three weeks, Cardinal fans, you'll email me again on a Monday telling me I'm an idiot. But I'm telling you guys, it's never too late to jump off this sinking ship. It is just a disaster to try to be a fan of that. It's never going to get better. And I'm telling. I also told you that you would see Slovis as your quarterback. And I'm thinking maybe in a week or two. Slovis is going to be your quarterback in a week. I thought it would be the end of this game last, but I thought we'd be this one. I was a week off. It'll be next week when they start to see that again. What a tough sled it is to get on board as a Cardinal fan and trek all the way out there and sit in those seats and spend that money and stare at that product and say, what am I doing? Yeah. Guy completed like a thousand passes. Unbelievable. It doesn't matter. A week before Brock Purdy or Mac Jones was 33 of 39 and they lost. What do you have? 44, 47. 47. 47 completed passes. It's insanity. And he's got trounced. We were at my house. My buddy Joe is there. Jose is there. The Steelers game had just ended. We're kind of just talking, you know, recapping the Steelers game. I don't know if you noticed, Brady, but the Bengals were stomped into the earth yesterday by the Steelers.

[Brady]

I did a little bit.

[John Holmberg]

Did you watch a little of that?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And so we're talking and I turned and I looked up at the TV and saw the Cardinals game was. There were nine or is it 12 minutes or something like that left in the game. We're like, this game's three minutes old and it's 13 to nothing. How did that happen? They did that last week. Like they're going to get trounced at home. And sure enough, that's exactly what happened. Just peppered.

[Brett Vesely]

Is this the end again?

[John Holmberg]

I mean, you think, oh, it's got. I mean, you got to fire. Yeah, you can't. Again, the. Yeah. Three years, no playoffs. And then you go. Nobody goes into a fourth. No coach goes into a fourth year with no like growth that way. Injuries or otherwise. It just doesn't matter. Start the rotation and then you lose the team to start dropping 40 points a game. You know, it's not going to. Yeah, it's. Yeah. Keep the rotation. It's just nonstop. Yeah, I think that's it. I would say if they bring it back, they wouldn't be stupid to do it, but they've got to bring back an entirely different roster. And then if you do that, you need. You got to have four or five different, different coaching years that you've got to give this guy to say, all right, you've got a brand new roster. So it's like Gannon wasn't here. You can't do it. So he's got to go. Fresh start roster and coaches and some lucky team will end up with Gannon because that guy's pretty good. So Cardinals fans. I know, I know. But it's not going to be good. You don't. It's got to hurt quite a bit.

[Brady]

A little anchor, some weight to get rid of too. With Kyler Murray.

[John Holmberg]

Yep. What do you do on that? You know, hey, you pay him and you suck it up for another year. Yeah, it's brutal. And I don't know next week if you and I will have our Aaron Rodgers back to Chicago matchup because he busted his hand. I saw that it might be Mason Rudolph going in with the Steelers and that's true. That's good. Well, you can be happy with that. You get tired of Aaron Rodgers. But I mean, as a Bears fan watching, I would like to come back. Love to have him and just say you're not doing it again and have him get just. Just trounced. But yeah, we'll see. We'll see what happens. Brady, your season's over, so it doesn't really matter. We're not going to talk about you. Enjoy your college football.

[Brady]

The Chiefs.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. Looks like the Chiefs are sitting out. Which I think everybody's kind of happy with. But again, if they sneak into the playoffs, they're the most dangerous team in the playoffs. Especially if they get to be like getting in, they're going to have to go like 5 and 2 or 6 and 1 just to have a sniff at it.

[Brady]

And anyone that could do it, I.

[John Holmberg]

Don'T want them in there because that would mean that they're hot going in and there they are now. No thanks Goodell.

[Brett Vesely]

Make sure they get in.

[John Holmberg]

It's not a big deal. It feels like that's something that could happen. It's all mixed up. The more every football pool I'm in, the less I realize I know about this year in football. I don't. I would have never picked the Chargers to get stomped out by the Jags yesterday. In fact, I didn't. All my football pools are like, I'm. I'm not good at it. In the beginning of the year I was great. And now it's as the season as they have more evidence of who they are. I'm getting worse.

[Brady]

We did on our co pick.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, what? We did. We did okay.

[Brady]

Moist boys.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, we're all right with the Jags. Did we go to the Jet? Well, we took the points. Yeah. Who knew that they'd win it outright by 29, let alone you gave some. They got points if I'm not mistaken for that. It's crazy. So I don't know much of much anymore about it. I just like watching the games and trying to figure stuff out. But again, this guy says I went to the Cardinal game. It was terrible. Only good thing about the game is I got to meet some of the guys from Shorzy. Wait a minute, Gabriel. The dudes from Shorzy were there.

[Brett Vesely]

Who?

[John Holmberg]

What is he? What is Jared Kiso and the boys doing up there?

[Brady]

Probably just a couple of Canadians.

[John Holmberg]

He thought that could be.

[Brady]

Yeah, they're wearing shirts.

[John Holmberg]

Give your horn a tog. Get off my back. What's wrong with you?

[Brady]

I think it's the guys.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, they call you a T fer because that's the only way I know for sure it was the dudes from Shoresy. Was it Handsome lad? I mean, who was it? Who is there? Gabriel, help. That's worth going. I mean, if you're going to meet some celebrities in the crowd. Sure. Anything to distract you from the crap in the middle of the field garbage. Also, that's something that's going on that may drive me away from sports forever and ever and ever. I never liked college basketball for two Reasons it's somebody else's kids playing for free. I don't go to little league games. And then also that band, toodling band that won't stop honking out Sloopy non stop during a game. It's the worst. It's tradition. Yeah. Some traditions need to die and that's one of them. Nobody likes marching bands. Sittings. You're called a marching band. And the reason people like that is because you march away, you leave the room, you go somewhere. I don't like marching bands sitting down. That's a sitting band. And a sitting band better be pretty good. Well, they honk and toot and honk and toot. I was watching. I don't even remember who was playing. Flipping around on espn. It was late and they were rerunning some college game and the team scored 67 points. And when they hit their 67th point, the place went crazy. Six, seven, six, seven. Oh, yeah, they lost the lines. And I'm like, oh, no, no, this is something.

[Brady]

They're doing it now in restaurants.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Brady]

Order numbers.

[John Holmberg]

Order number six. They've been doing that at like five guys. There's that viral meme that's gone out for a few weeks that the 6, 7 thing has gotten annoyingly out. And oh, but the basketball game and the band started tootling and making all sorts of noise and the fans were doing the nut juggle thing, which actually I kind of thought was funny at first when they. I don't know why that's the same.

[Brady]

That's part of the. Yeah, I don't know that who started that. Might be a football player.

[John Holmberg]

It doesn't matter who started. It doesn't matter. They all need to be just reprimanded completely. But it's got to go away eventually. And again, parents, it's up to you to make 6, 7 uncool by making it cool, please. And then the. I went to the Suns game last night too. It was a hell of a game. I don't know how it happened. Suns were down 20, then they were up 20, then it was tied. Every time I turned around, like, oh, there's they're. They're tied.

[Brady]

It.

[John Holmberg]

It was. There was a 20 point lead. We left basically to go hang out when it was a 20 point lead. We're like, yeah, we'll just hang out in the Raha room. We'll just me and my buddy Jordan, or we'll just sit and chat it out at the thing. Watch the end of this clunker we got down there. And it Was tied again. I'm like, I don't know. It was 97, 77. We get down there and it's 105 to 104. I'm like, huh?

[Brady]

Three fest.

[John Holmberg]

We took. We took a walk, and then Atlanta won the damn game. But while we were on our way down, we saw what had happened in the awesome moment with Draymond Green and the New Orleans Pelicans fan, where the Pelicans fan was teasing Draymond Green a little bit about being Angel Reese. And he made a couple Angel Reese references saying, you're nothing but a rebounder. Basically, you're Angel Reese. Nice. Nice job, Angel. And he kept doing it. Well, Draymond, who is known for mouthing off, for getting in the ears of players, for chirping all game long, didn't like it and wandered over to the fan in the crowd and just barked at him and said, that's it. You can't quit calling me a woman. He's like, what? Angel Reese, the best rebounder. I don't think what Draymond expected was when he got to the dude who was chirping that he would be the shorter of the two people, the fan was as big as Draymond was. And he's like, damn, let's go. He just stood there and looked at him. All right, you wanna. You wanna go? And he was very. He's like, look, it was a little intimidating. Have Draymond Green. They interviewed him later. A little intimidating. Have Draymond Green come over and. But, you know, Draymond said it was a great quote, too, because. And this is a dude. I mean, he's known for his mouth, but he says it was a good joke at first. Draymond says this, but you can't keep calling me a woman. I got four kids and one on the way. You can't keep calling me a woman. He got quiet, though, so it was fine. Now, is this going to become a thing? Because you can't use being a woman as a slur, right? Like, if I called you. Yeah, yeah, that's a yeah. But if you just start seeing. Yeah, is this a thing now that can get people in big trouble? Like, you call somebody gay. You know, what's wrong with being gay? Or the R word? The argument is like, ah, pretty sure, retard. Like, well, why is that? You can't do that. John Holmberg's morning sickness. The 98 KUPD.

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[John Holmberg]

Oh, you got the video of it. Yeah, yeah. This is great. Step curry in the pigeon. They're trying to. They're trying to you, but right here, he's actually the guy on the ball into it. You don't want to see this. Yeah, he went over to the crowd and started mouthing off to a guy. And then security's fat asses start rolling, rolling over. I would love to sit here and say, I agree with you, Joe, but sometimes there has to be a line that can't be crossed either. And calling a man a woman, is that lies? That is the most awful thing you can say to anything. Any man getting called a woman has a right to punch that man in the face. Eventually, they're going to have to build barriers around the basketball court. That's pretty soft right there. Hockey or what? I mean, yeah, man. Probably like some glass thing, some partition to keep it so that.

[Brett Vesely]

Are they booting them out?

[John Holmberg]

No, they just talked to him, said, could you keep it down? There are rules. If you've ever sat on the floor, they say no cussing, no pictures. You know, a lot of times they'll.

[Brady]

You know, I'll be experiencing that Friday.

[John Holmberg]

You'Re going on there sitting down for. Are you behind the benches? That's even More rules?

[Brady]

No. A buddy of mine that I did something for says, hey, I just want to say thank you. And he's like, that's nice.

[John Holmberg]

You get some seats down low. That's awesome. The. They do tell you, though, if you're sitting there, I sat behind the sun's bench. Like, no cameras. Know this. You can take pictures before the game, but if a huddle's going on, you'll get removed for this, this, this, and this. Don't talk to the players. Don't talk to anybody that you see that you just don't. And it's like, okay. And some people do, some people don't. You sit behind the sun's bench, you're not going to get a lot of barking. But they're. They're soft. They'll turn on you. And you got to remember, they're like 24 years old. They're not exactly. All the brains haven't. They're still mushy up top.

[Brett Vesely]

So you got to keep your phone in your pocket and stuff like that. When you're sitting, you're in a fishbowl.

[Brady]

It's really not the most comfortable.

[John Holmberg]

No, you can't. You can't. You're not supposed to. You can have your phone out, right? But you can't, like, go taking photos. They'll just. They'll ask you to go, oh, and there's no cussing, which is ironic because that's all that's going on on that bench and on the floors. Like, you're not allowed to, as a fan, cuss. And it's. It's fine. But they can, like, crazy and at you. If. If they don't like. Like you say something about their game, they can turn on you and ask you to be removed. It's like, they're very soft. Very soft. But that was kind of cool. And Draymond went over and was. The dude was as big as him. And then the security sat out. He stayed. And then Draymond later said, oh, it's all right. He got. He got quiet, so things were cool. But you don't call me a woman. It's the worst thing you can. I thought in this day and age that that was like, we're all supposed to be okay with that. And I. I also thought that NBA players loved the WNBA and to be compared to one of their highest rebounders would be a compliment, but evidently it's not. It's just really insulting to be called a WNBA player when you're in the NBA. And I say to that it Makes me happy that the whole thing is.

[Brady]

That that particular one would get him.

[John Holmberg]

Well, yeah, it's pretty good one. When you look, you don't want to be compared to anybody in the wnba. That's rude. They're horrible at basketball. He's worked really hard to not be.

[Brady]

I know, but that would be the least of my. I mean, like, you know, you're not necessarily.

[John Holmberg]

Well, yeah, but until. Until you are on his. In his shoes. Brady, you don't know what it's like to be compared to a woman. It's a man's worst nightmare. Evidently. The dude must. I want to know what the jokes were to get him that way, because that had to.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

There had to be some other thing in him. Yeah. If it's a funny joke at first, nice job, Angel. But I think that's what it was. It was the Daryl. Eventually he snapped. It's a good, good rebound there, Angel. And the better part was it was in New Orleans, the home of Angel Reese. She went to lsu.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Like, they love her down there. And still she's used as a punchline for real basketball. Oh, it's fantastic.

[Brett Vesely]

That fan's gonna be on a talk show some more.

[John Holmberg]

Good, good.

[Brady]

Victorious.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

I don't know the Runway.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I don't know what the jokes were. I couldn't have been that one, Brady. That wouldn't have made anybody mad. Lingerie, your thongs in your ass. Something. Something along those lines. You can't really cuss. But my God, I just found it to be like, oh, no, there. There's going to be the W word. You can't compare a man woman. Yeah, you can, because our word. You can't say you're an R word because it's like, why is it that's bad? It's like. And the homo F word. We used to call each other that constantly. And people were like, well, why is that a bad thing? Why would that be a despair? Why would he be upset if you called him out? I'm like, have you seen what those guys do to each other? Of course he'd be upset. If you're not interested in that activity, that's a huge insult to be compared to that. Just a bad word. But now to compare a man to.

[Brady]

A woman.

[John Holmberg]

I mean, it could be a slur. At this point, people can start losing their jobs. The Godfather, the great line in the Godfather. Stand in my office, sitting here, crying like a woman. You throw like a girl. All these things, what we do as men that make us feel good. Oh, yeah. Nice. And golf. Nice shot, Nancy. When a guy misses, you know, duffs one or hits it a few yards or.

[Brady]

Yeah. Your wife's name.

[John Holmberg]

Tiger woods was notorious for out driving you and then giving you a tampon. He would reach into his pocket and hand you a tampon on, you know, friendly games. He would do it in PGA events. Forget who? The guys.

[Brady]

Other players.

[John Holmberg]

Jones. Yeah. He'd say a nice drive, and he'd hand you a tampon like you dick, Tiger. Why? Because you hit like a woman. If some soft player like Draymond Green is out there and Tiger hands him a. A tampon and he tells the press, and Tiger's got to explain why he said hitting like a woman is a bad thing. For a man. It is. You punch like a girl is the last thing a guy punching wants to hear.

[Brady]

Women can punch. Now he's got a garage full of maxi pads. From the other player. From the other players.

[John Holmberg]

It's got loads of them because he's way behind now. But you know what? In his day, he started that.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You can't imagine anybody else. You can sit and say, yeah. Now he's 50, so he doesn't hit it as far. Well, good. He got his tradition continues. Yeah. Six o'. Clock. The word. The final day of giving you guys a chance to win Money is today. VIP is the 6 o' clock code word. This is a goof day, Brett. We had a day disappear, so we had to redo it.

[Brett Vesely]

This thing's empty.

[John Holmberg]

There's one more. Well, there's the big book. We had Toledo. Have to look them up. VIP is the 6am word. That's not really a word. VIP. Throw it in there and make it a thing. And that's something. There it is. You got them all. So you can do it. One more day of this silliness. We'll do it. 6, 7, 8, and 9. I'll tell you a word you can pop into the glorious Take it in the app promo. And we'll be done with the guys in the suits. And they're incredibly colorless and meaningless contest that we can now finish up and make the bobs go. It's a real success with every one of our stations. Creativity means doing the same thing in multiple places. That's what they would say. We didn't have an option. Although I do like giving money away. So I will give them that shake of the hands to the bob's terrible contest. But it does work because money's involved. VIP for 6am and type it in like a Man, don't be some broad typing with their big old nails, messing it up with VOP and things like that. Come on, keep it together. Brad, it's good to have you back. All the well wishes. All the well wishes came in. And we didn't have anybody giggling at all at things last week that normally got giggled at, which is, you know, I think at one point, Brady.

[Brady]

So many words said.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Every time they're like. It's just weird.

[John Holmberg]

Brady brought up beans like a hundred times. No one laughed. There was a thing about guys digging like literal diggers. No one. That didn't happen. So it's good to have your incredibly annoying laugh back when we're trying to explain what normal things are. Also, last week, we were at the end of the week under the impression that there was a chance that Trump had blown Bill Clinton on Epstein Island. And now Trump has gone full 180. He must have read all of it. I look pretty good here. Go ahead. And they're gonna release the Epstein things if it isn't for hired another hundred attorneys. Something's going on to now it's like, just go. Which is what he said he wanted to do in the first place. And Clinton's in there, and Clinton's responding to it. And they're gonna. To me for him to release these says that he's got somebody that's gonna look really bad who's a Democrat in this mix. They found something on Clinton or, I don't know, Obama or something. Yeah. There's gonna be something that are like, oh, I'll take the punches. Get it out there. Let them explain themselves, too. Because I'm tired of this. Something has to come out of this or it's just all for nothing. It's like Geraldo's vault.

[Brady]

I think if it's on Clinton, I don't think that does much damage, really.

[John Holmberg]

I think we know Clinton likes getting blown. I think. Yeah. And. And again, they're probably like that.

[Brady]

Let's hope that's it.

[John Holmberg]

Right. Clinton would just be personally embarrassed.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Only because legacy is. Yeah. He has to go away completely if he's in another blowjob scandal. We gave you one good one and you kind of rode that out.

[Brady]

He's gotten out of all of them but one.

[John Holmberg]

Well, he got well financially. He's paid a lot of people. But the. The BJ one with Monica, it was uncomfortable. Nobody had ever really gone through that before, but I think he came out with flying colors. Pardon the pun. I should. I'll say that another. He got out of that pretty. I'm not gonna say Scott clean either. He, you know, we don't care. We don't care.

[Brett Vesely]

No.

[John Holmberg]

At this point ended up we don't care. So. But if he's getting blown on Epstein island by a dude, we're gonna start caring. And that's what I think. And the only way Trump releases that is if Clinton's.

[Brady]

It was a D. Wasn't Trump.

[John Holmberg]

Right. But Trump might have. Like, I cooked it. I watched it. Like, that's even better. And again, I'm here for the joke. So I want that to be even truer than I did Friday when William Shatner told me there's a chance that that was real. I want it to be more true that Trump was in the room while there was a mouthful of Clinton and some fella on Epstein island. That, that I will pray to Brady's God for all day long. It was. That's the world we live in. That's the possibility of that. So if Clinton gets a boy job. Yeah. I think all of us are going to be like, all right, all right, all right, let's. The jokes will be hilarious and he's going to die from that. There's no way Bill Clinton gets exposed himself. No. But it's hard to stop. He's too old to have. You can't be that old and have gay blowjob stories, you know, come out. It's not a There goes all the bridges, huh? Or she's going to kill Hillary will definitely kill him. John holmberg's morning sickness. The 98 KUPD the college football season.

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[John Holmberg]

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[Brett Vesely]

You should call Obama and ask him about that.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, Obama's gonna be ones like once the report come out, because more than likely, like, Michelle was getting a boy job too, from him. Right? Oh, my God. You just made me picture it. So it's all fun in games until two dudes start blowing each other and tape and then try to hide it. I think it's great. I liked it better when William Shatner made me act it out for him. I think that's the highlight of my life. I didn't know that that was gonna happen. Besides the no birth of my first child, that was the best day of my life. And I still. It's gonna vacillate between not having kids. That's the best day of my life. And having William Shatner tell me to pretend to be Trump and Clinton blowing each other. And that just made me happy. I just. It's a. It's a good day. But our president is going to release those and that means that something horrible is in that for someone else. Because if it's him, he'll get rid of it. If it's someone else, he'll gladly spotlight it. And I have a feeling it's going to be weird. And I'm hoping it's going to be weird. I don't even care if it's sexual. Like I would like. I would rather have it be like Clinton and Obama doing coke off of a. Off of a wiener or something. I think that would be even better that that's in there somewhere. That then there's some photo of it. I don't want any of the sex traffic people to be involved. I want those two to have just played touch tips together. Any of them. If maybe a triad like, you know, Trump gets in there and lays his hog across or they just had a contest to who has the biggest one and Michelle wins it. I don't care. I just want something silly like that.

[Brady]

There's a party room where that all goes down. It's like an orgy where all the.

[John Holmberg]

Presidents have wieners out.

[Brady]

There's gatherings after dinner.

[John Holmberg]

And you wonder, you know, history repeats itself. That's very Roman.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

That used to happen all the time in the. You know, the Roman dudes would go Greek and stuff on each other and that was kind of accepted back then, I guess.

[Brady]

And you would. You'd hear it every now and then. Whether it's a professional Magic Johnson party. Yeah. Diddy parties.

[John Holmberg]

That kind of power. Yeah. He started to kind of dabble with stuff that's taboo. I think it's great. I find it to be what I want in this life. I want us to have the Roman council and find out that these dudes are just wild. You know, there's been a lot of politicians that have been discovered. You know. Remember that dude in Minnesota that was tapping toes underneath.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Bathrooms, White stairs. Yeah. Just trying to get glory hold in a. In the airport. I mean we sit and think, oh my God, he tried to get a glory hole job at an airport. Think of the things he was getting successfully. That's the time he got busted. I don't think. And he tried to play it off like I didn't know I have a wide stance when I pee. I didn't know that touching feet with another dude with bad and like every. That is the most. The etiquette of touching in a bathroom strangers is everyone knows that this dude's been getting away with it. Great stuff all the way around. So I'm proud of everybody who releases the Epstein files to us. And even prouder if it turns out that Clinton and Obama released blew each other in some sort of weird lemon.

[Brady]

Party and two weeks later start hearing stuff. It takes. Takes a while to read the thousand.

[John Holmberg]

Because it seems like they can put a 20,000 page bill together and everybody knows it. These Epstein files that just read them.

[Brett Vesely]

Weren'T they trying to release those a couple months ago?

[John Holmberg]

And then I was, no, no, no.

[Brady]

We'Re gonna do that.

[John Holmberg]

They've been back.

[Brady]

Yeah, big press announcement.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, we're gonna do it. It's all coming out. Yeah, there's nothing in these. And then they find a couple of them. Like, wait a second. Page three million. Clinton gets blown by Trump. It's like, what? We gotta release this. People need to read this.

[Brady]

Does that say Bubba?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Is it Bubba? And then. And then Epstein's brother went on TMZ and said, no, no, no, Bubba's a different guy. It's like that. Wait a minute. If he is, who's the Bubba then? Because somebody's blowing Trump's blowing Bubba. Oh, it's just a dude saying, I's got pictures and blowing Bubba. But who's Bubba if it's not Clinton? Anyway, the world would be a better place if we all had non AI photos of presidents and former presidents blowing each other. Isn't that what we're shooting for, though? You know, unity lines. Blow a guy. I think that's what they've said in the past. It's on our money. Something like that says blow a guy in there. Yes, that's what he plurvasuna means. Blow that fella. Yeah, read your money. You get on there. Yeah, I think it does. I think it says e pluribus unum. And look at, look, dudes blowing each other. It's on the dollar. On the bottom of the dollar, it says $1. And there's a little, you know, there's a little spider in the corner and then the eye above the pyramid and then that dude blowing that guy. And the. You got to search for it.

[Brady]

But it's all in there.

[John Holmberg]

It's in there. It's all in there. It's all part of it. VIP is the 6am word. You want to hop on that thing and get involved. Get yourself one last shot at $1,000. And then we can stop saying take it in the app. Because today is the. Today's the goof day. Also, we had a computer issue. This is like day five. We had to redo it today. It was supposed to end Friday, but there was a computer goof day. So we're going to try again. You guys might recognize I have done these words before. Yeah. Because it was a computer shutdown. So according to the legal department, we have to do the amount of days we said we were gonna. And we have to do the words we said we were gonna do or somebody out there can read the rules and get mad that they entered into. Then we'd owe everybody a thousand bucks. So we're not gonna do that. It's a makeup. No. We're not paying. Well, we'd rather shut the doors than give everybody who says that they text a thousand dollars. So good luck. You'll win another thousand today. We're all proud of you Cardinal fans. I want to hear from you. We get a wake up song. I don't know how you're doing it. Maybe I just. We should have some sort of a. Like a suicide prevention or something for the Cardinal fans. I mean, what's keeping you, a Cardinal fan? That's what I want to know. What is making you say someday? Because it's not going to happen.

[Brady]

Come on.

[John Holmberg]

It's not going to happen.

[Brady]

Well, but I'm saying, don't you think.

[John Holmberg]

Being a Cubs fan and I was wrong. How many times have I said I was wrong? It wasn't worth it. They want it. And it's like, oh, my God, I wasted all that time. And then I realized, oh, my God, you don't have to do this. I understand if a team is giving back, but here. And the other thing about a Cubs fan, somebody. We were talking about this on Thursday with a friend of mine. You were the lovable losers. You had an identity that was like, oh, it's kind of a thing. It was. It was a badge of honor to be a Cubs fan because it showed you were tough. Cardinals aren't lovable losers. They're not lovable. They're just losers. There's a difference. You're being a Jets fan is the same thing. You're not a lovable loser. You're just a loser. And it sucks.

[Brady]

They're a step ahead of the Browns.

[John Holmberg]

Browns are just losers. Browns are. Browns are the closest thing to the lovable loser because they're just pathetic and sad. It's like children with men. It's just a. It's band. You also, in the end of it, you gotta. At least the Cubs lived in Chicago. There was stuff to do. If you're a loser and you live in Cleveland. Oh, my God. It's like a prison sentence.

[Brett Vesely]

Starting to feel sympathy for Browns.

[John Holmberg]

You can't. Browns fans are in some sort of a weird sci fi movie that they're not allowed to leave. They live in Cleveland, Ohio. I know Brady will defend that. That's a nightmare for everyone else on the planet. Not in Cleveland. The only people who like Cleveland are people who are in Cleveland because they have to convince themselves it's okay. Same with, like, Gila Bend. Gila Bend's actually really nice in the fall. Says no one except for the residents of Gila Bend forced to live there. You can leave. Sometimes you can't leave Cleveland. You got to work there and stuff. It's time to go. But Arizona, you're not lovable losers. You're not. It's not adorable by any stretch. Although Kyler has his moments of being kind of the cutest thing in the world because he's so little. You just want to hug him. I don't know. Just kind of a strange.

[Brady]

There's a little excitement yesterday for the Brownies when Shador.

[John Holmberg]

You know, that wasn't exciting. Brady, he's terrible at football.

[Brady]

Should do it.

[John Holmberg]

Sanders went out there and proved why he's a fifth round pick. He's terrible at football. And the coaches have been saying he's not good enough to play and he had to. And Brown's fans are like, what? We got two rookie quarterbacks and they both suck. What in the world?

[Brady]

Futuristic football coach. Just send them all.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know what this is. We're going to lose because of him. That's my team. So, yeah, if you're a Browns fan, you can quit. But there are no lovable losers in football. The Browns are the closest Cardinal fans. There's not. There's no badge of anything. You're loyal to. Nonsense. And I am a Cubs fan. I. I was wrong. It. Let me tell you, it wasn't worth it. In the end when they finally won. It was. I was happy to kind of walk away and go, what? Why did I do that? But at least I had kind of a joke and a wink with it. Cardinal fans. It's like just. It's like going. And it'd be like every Sunday you're gonna have cerebral palsy for eight hours. Why are you doing this to yourself? Yeah, I woke up on Sunday. It's football season. I've got palsy. Like, you can stop. Nah, I'm gonna keep doing it. You can cure yourself of it. No, I'm gonna keep the palsy at least Sunday, Mondays and Thursdays throughout from September until February. December.

[Brady]

The coolest thing would be at least I watched it in the mobile home in the end zone.

[John Holmberg]

You get those, you know, those weird little storage facilities that they put plates and tables in and make you sit and watch the game from the worst angle ever. Charge astronomical amounts of money anyway. What are you gonna do at 6? 18 Cardinal fans? I feel for you. I just. I just know there's a cure for it. And it's any other team you'll see one day when they get there, they're not gonna ever. You're gonna be dead and there's no satisfaction in your football life. You'll be dead, Jeremy. You'll be dead and they'll still not have anything. You'll be dead. It's true. 585-9800. That is the phone number to try to get it all back to normal on this Monday for you. And we'll scream it together. It's 98 KUPD. Wake up. It's out of control now.

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[Brady]

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