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Brett Vesely
You're listening to the HMS Podcast, brought to you by MMP Guns.com, your most trusted online marketplace for firearms, ammunition, and accessories. Hey, it's Brett Vesely, and I'm here with Byron from MMP Guns. Look, Byron, I have a friend wanting to sell some guns he inherited. What's the best way for him to do that?
Byron
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Brett Vesely
Okay, but what if he lives out of state?
Byron
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Brett Vesely
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D
You thought that was funny?
E (Likely John Holmberg)
You were laughing like a hyena when he said it.
F
What the hell is wrong with you?
E (Likely John Holmberg)
One week ago, we had gotten to the end of PlayDoh 20, 25, 6, and we were getting to our finalists. Well, the finalists. One of them's in Siberia or something. That's Sanjay's group. The other one is Brent Crandall, who's now just missing.
Brett Vesely
Well, this band's name was Witness Protection.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
So no, since no.
Brett Vesely
I think I got one meme. But he used to put videos out every day.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Yeah. And nothing. So Brent's band was amazing. I don't think there's anything other than he's just missing from action. You say that as if you know something, but, yeah, it's easy to just check in.
F
I can't do it.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Where are you?
Brett Vesely
Yeah.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Cause we're trying to get him to go. His band was incredible. John Gordon was in it. His band had two sick guys. DJ Bathsheba couldn't make it. Kev. The other bands were struggling to make it. So we were down to. We had, like, eight finalists, basically, and two of them could make it last Tuesday. So we moved it to Tonight. And hopefully you guys can still turn out because it should be pretty fun. Even though it is kind of better on the Tuesday before Thanksgiving because nobody tries on Wednesday. So it is a work night tomorrow. But who cares? Let's go goof around and have fun on a Tuesday. That's what we do. But just as a quick reminder, here's who we have as our top fear. In no particular order. Hang on. Because he has 1, 2, 3, 2, 1 written for the bands. Is it. Is it 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Okay. All right. I'm just making sure. That's what I figured. All right. The first one that'll be in there tonight is the domnrs.
F
I like these guys.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
DOMN and nrs. Yeah. No, I'd hated their name, but I like their band. Song is called Casual Friday. This will wake you up. And with the Screamies. So they were our screamy guys. And that was. That was the one that came in. They're the fifth finalist. Then we had the Thomas James Band, which was very kind of groove centric, almost Tom Petty, plus something else. Thomas James Band said something I think you should know.
D
I'll give you some vibes I got a long time ago, but, my God, I was here before you. He said you leave your heart on the side of the road and pick it up when you do. You know, you got to be strong.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
What's that Australian band that's not acdc, but wants to be Airborne. Airborne. There it is. That's the one. Very much like that. The third one that we have coming in tonight. Graves of the Monuments. Their song was called Suffocate.
John Holbrook
Forgot about these guys.
F
I did, too.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
I fall into space. And then we had. Is this John Gordon's band? The mess I made I believe. Is that the one? I think so, too. This is called Bleed Out. No, it's not, joe. Without fear. That's a good one there. All right. I like that. The mess I made. And then Without Fear. Gaslighter was the name of the song. I like this one.
D
You can watch it. Over to the ground.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Very cool song. Very cool hook. Very well done, boys. And then, of course, the ones that we can't get to show up, including this angel, DJ Bathsheba. Listen to her voice.
D
Every step I'm taking Lights up the sky I'm chasing yeah, I'm fire Freedom Ain't no turning down my soul.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Knock it off. Why can't she show up?
Brett Vesely
People are calling her DJ AI.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Now, that's what they all say about Shabathshiba. The Alchemist. We love you. And then of course there's the one that we wish could come but they broke up 20 years ago. Piss Ball Peak. Let me tell you a story.
D
A man named Piss Ball his dick.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
So smiley pissed on his ball. Still good.
Brett Vesely
If, if you know two of the guys could show up, I'm sure we could find somebody to fill in.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
One dude can show up and do an acoustic version of that. Yeah.
F
Is that the band? The brothers haven't talked.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
They have not talked in 20 something years. Since the beginning of the Goliath expedition. And now they are there. But it's one star night as the band. But just one dude in a guitar can do that. Just strum it once.
Brett Vesely
And one drum with a, with a slam.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
One guy can do that too. Yeah, you just, you strum it.
Brett Vesely
You grab a stick out of like Mary Poppins. The one man band.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Exactly. Brett. Why do these people have to make everything so difficult? But tonight It'll start about 6:30 with DDM and NRS. And if you want to guys, you could come down there and hang out. It's nice. It's for the. We're going to drop off some money for the Humane Society. Would suggest perhaps you, you show up. We'll. We'll have a little thing for you. If you don't want to do it, that's fine too. No terrorism here.
Brett Vesely
Yeah, be cheap.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
But. But there is guilt. And Brett will stand up there. Oh, you don't know no envelope from you. Okay. How you doing? Enjoy tonight for free. But we're gonna have that lined up. Now part of the deal is if you're one of the bands in this crowd participation is a big thing. So I highly recommend you get family and friends to show up to the party tonight because if you've got no support it's going to feel terrible. And we like to fill the place up. It's not a huge place. Couple hundred people will pop through, fill that thing right up and we'll get going. So we're ready to go tonight. 6:30 Copper Blues. Downtown shouldn't be that tough. And then we'll pick our winner and they will write our theme song for next year and they'll walk away with $2,000 as a band, which they're not getting paid to do gigs. Two grand over at, you know, what is that place called? The Tumbleweed and stuff. You're not getting two grand a night from Tumbleweed. The 44 is probably not throwing 200 bucks at you. Yeah, 2000. And if you are well, then you're doing pretty well. So what are you doing with us? But, DJ Bathsheba, I'm very angry at you. Because if she can't show up.
D
Every step I'm taking shows up the sky I'm chasing. Yeah, I'm fire. Freedom. Ain't no turning down my Sunday Night Football.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Yeah, it is. Fox News. We bring you Will Kane. He would have that on em. Just send it to Fox News now. The second he finds out she's black, Fox will jump on that and make it like, see, See, we're not. I use a black lady as my theme song. Song's called Fire and Freedom. Pete Hegseth jizzes every time that song plays. They probably have it in the. In the planes that are killing all those Venezuelan druggies.
John Holbrook
Can you imagine that?
E (Likely John Holmberg)
That's a pretty good idea.
F
I got the speaker out the helicopter.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Shooting down drug boats. Venezuela, How about that story? They had a couple survivors waving to the helicopter like, okay, sorry, no, they're.
F
Coming back for a second round.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Whatever. They were just floating in the water and we, we drove them down again. I like it. I got a problem with that. Blow up a bunch of stuff. I'm fine with it. It's inhumane.
F
And now it's not him.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Who cares, Admiral? Don't care.
F
I. I did it.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Well, it doesn't matter. He's in charge of it. Don't care who's doing it. I like watching things explode. And it's going to get us all in big trouble. And it's gonna. I'm here for the laughs, but that's pretty good stuff. I just like that we circle back for survivors. Anybody left down there who ordered the code red and goddamn right. Just floating around out there looking for boats, fishermen and stuff. I like it. So tonight should be fun. We'll see you guys out there. And I think we're gonna have a heck of a night. I think that should be something we all look forward to as we get excited for Palladio 2026. Hopefully, the live show will be Good Morning, 98 KUPD.
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E (Likely John Holmberg)
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John Holbrook
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E (Likely John Holmberg)
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E (Likely John Holmberg)
Holmberg's morning sickness Also, I don't know if you guys saw this the other day, but calling someone bald is now considered sexual harassment. You see that? It was finally in a court. In a court it has been put out there. That said, if you call a man bald at his office, it is now sexual harassment because it's essentially like saying nice cans or looking at someone's body parts and pointing them out. Baldness is now sexual harassment. Me too. It's here for us, Brady. We can't be teased, we can't be ridiculed. We can't be ogled. You can no longer look at our bald heads and mention a thing or we will. You will lose your job fighting for this for years. You hair having hair Havers. Yeah, maybe we are. But you can talk about us being pussies, but you can't talk about our hair. That's just the way we operate now. It's not a thing. Yeah, some judge and I was like New Hampshire or something said, yeah, I guess that would count if you were kind of going after this dude because he's bald. You can't do that to people. And nice chrome dome. What being bald is is. It's was a judge Telly Savalas or what? Yeah, it is.
Byron
Yeah.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
And you know what? Good one of our own. Got it. Well it was in the uk. I'm sorry. It wasn't here yet. I thought it was in New Hampshire. It's in UK Says calling a man bald can be a form of sexual harassment, a characteristic more prevalent in men. Based on a specific case where a supervisor repeatedly called an employee a bald C word.
Brett Vesely
Where's the problem?
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Get it done, you bald. And he heard it every day and he's like, that's enough. Being called a C word that was okay didn't apply in court. But being called bald was a bridge too far as a comment was found to be intentional and unwanted and created a hostile and intimidating work environment, violating his dignity and relating to his sex. Because it's male. If you called a woman a bald, you just. You know you're gonna get fired for that. So you can't call a man a bald. I don't think you're supposed to call anybody at work. Bald immediately dismisses you sometimes.
Brett Vesely
It's fitting though.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
The judges ruled there's a link between the word bald and a protective characteristic of sex as baldness is inherently related to sex gender as it's a man thing. It's prevalent in men and it's what we have to deal with. So it immediately drops right into that category. As if you were to make fun of only things women have like periods and emotional breakdowns and bad driving skills. The act was considered unwanted and a violation of the man's dignity. The person does not need to explicitly state their objection for conduct to be unwanted. So he basically took the punches until he couldn't take them anymore. And he didn't want the nickname bald at work anymore, so they stopped it. So more than likely because the next thing was training is now going to start happening in workplaces that you can't point out a dude's bald and this.
F
Can't wait to see that video.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Oh, you know what's going to happen for us, Brady? Bald is our new N word. Only we're allowed to use it. This is going to be awesome.
Brett Vesely
So I can call you guys C words all day long.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Usually. Usually. You're right about that. Don't you dare add the word bald to that. What do you think your brick top from Snatch? Yeah, it's a. But it was. Yeah, they've been talking about it for a long time, but it finally happened in court. They did it in, I guess it was like 2022. But it has become official now in workplace hrs that you can't. You can't call a bald man bald. There's A couple years ago. But it has leaked over into our. And that was in the uk Leaked over into our United States, and is now in training seminars and everything else. So back off us, Brett.
Brett Vesely
All right, C word.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
That's fine. I don't bother me. I don't have one of those. But if I did, you couldn't. You couldn't. And it's really true. You can't call a woman that. But I could call a dude that all day long. Yeah, and we do in this building. But I don't think I've ever called any of the ladies downstairs. Like, I've done it with Brett. He'll say something like, get out of here, you dumb. But if Jill was in my office, I'm like, ah, get out of here, you dumb. Oh, my God. Why did you call me that? I remember probably way before people cared about women's feelings at work. We were working here. It was. Man, it was a great. It seemed like the sun was shinier then. But there was a girl here, and she was. She was kind of like one of the guys. She was playful and fun, and she came down, and I think I called someone else the C word. Joking. And she just goes, ugh, I hate that word. And I'm like, it's one of the best words ever. Like, that was when I first started hanging around Thomas, my Scottish friend. So it had seeped into my world. So it's probably 2005.
F
You tried to tenderize it.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Oh, I tenderized the hell out of it. I made it the sweetest thing in the world. That way, if it ever did slip out in anger, it wasn't a nuclear weapon. It was just a bullet. But I did it. And then so it's like, oh. And it was shocking. And I didn't realize how shocking until later that day. I went upstairs and like, hey, how you doing? And she wouldn't talk to me. And then I turned and she was crying. So you okay? And she said, you can't believe you said that. Words. The worst word in the world. I didn't call you one, but now you're kind of acting like a. So maybe I should have, thinking that would make it lesser. Tears flying. I just left, and we had our old boss, Chuck Artigue, then, oh, get over it. Ya. Get back to your desk. There were tears involved, and to me, that just screamed, geez, what an emotionally unstable she must be. But I did get, like, told, hey, try not to say that around her. By her boyfriend or your boyfriend. Yeah, she really hates that. So if you don't mind, don't say that around her. Okay. I didn't know it was that. You're dating a. You're dating a Looney Tune, but, yeah.
F
Was that the Christmas party?
John Holbrook
Always.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Hey, by the way. Hey, man, just want to let you know, when you said to my girl. Yeah, I didn't actually. I said, it's someone else. She was in earshot. Yeah, well, she hears that and it. It triggers her. I don't understand that, but. Okay, so don't say that. You know. Okay, I won't use those words. It was insensitive.
Brett Vesely
But now you're a.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Now I'm a bald. What'd you call me?
D
Bald.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
What? Doesn't matter. A bald gentleman is even too far off the deal, so don't do. Was a pretty fun day, though. I remember that one being like, I thought everything was fine, and then I used the joke again, thinking she's crying about something else, and I was going to make her laugh with what. It was that. And I remember Chuck saying that, too. Did you say to that girl.
John Holbrook
I didn't say it to her.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
She heard me say it to someone else. Oh, don't use that word anymore. Acting like a around here.
John Holbrook
I can't.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
I don't. I don't need that on my desk. You got it, buddy. And then we just went about our business. 2005 was different. It was different. Somewhere around 1213, everybody kind of looked at each other and said, let's make everything harder.
John Holbrook
And we did.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Anyway, we'll be able to throw that around tonight, but don't you dare call me bald. Brady, too. I'm gonna keep my ears open. If you even start, because Brady's nice.
F
I might not hear it.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Yeah. And. Yeah, and he's deaf, so it doesn't. You can try to call Brady a bald if you want to, but he might just go, hey, how you doing there, chief?
Brett Vesely
C word's okay, right?
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Yeah.
F
Okay.
E (Likely John Holmberg)
Yeah. Add anything you want to. Bald's off. It's off the table. It's off the table. It's our N word. We use it, not you. If I even hear. It's the B word to you people. Your people. That's our B word. Brady for them. We can say it all day. What's up, my bald? Hey, what's up, baldy? We're having the time of our lives. Somebody gets a little comfortable with us, one of these follicled people, we'll have their ass. And if you're one of those horseshoe keepers, you're not one of us. One of those people that grows the outside out and still considers that having hair. You look like an as a toilet seat. Yeah, yeah. You look like a moron and you're bald. So quit it. It's 8:55. That's a beautiful thing. What a great day for us. B words. B words unite. Now we can be part of the lgb. I guess we. They've already got to be. It's not bald either. Geez, we can't get any groups. We have to start our own. How about the. What are the naac? BP like that National Advancement Associate Advancement of Bald People. Yeah, the naabp. That's where I'm starting. Starting that right there. We've been pushed back too long by the man oppressed. No, don't. And I know you're rolling your eyes out there, hair havers. You don't know our pain. No, I sure don't. You don't. See these people. Can you believe it? They don't even acknowledge it. Now I know what it's like to be gay, Jewish and bald man. It's terrible. It's 8:56. Basically essentially screaming out, we wish we were you. Every time we get mad, you say it's like, well we can't be you, so stop reminding us. We got the hot releases coming up in just moments. You bald Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station. The UP day.
Date: December 2, 2025
Host: John Holmberg with Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo
Topic: Playdio Finals update and hilarious, incisive commentary on “bald” becoming workplace sexual harassment
The episode revolves around two main themes:
As always, Holmberg and crew balance quick wit, self-deprecation, and social commentary, taking jabs at themselves, workplace culture, and listeners alike.
Recap of Band Challenges:
Finalist Bands Overview (02:58–07:40):
Band-Related Banter:
Details for Tonight’s Finals:
Holmberg’s Humorous Take on Band Night:
Setting Up the Story:
Analysis & Commentary:
Personal Anecdotes:
Riffing on the Future of ‘Bald’ in Culture:
On Band Absentees:
“Brent’s band was amazing. I don’t think there’s anything other than he’s just missing from action.” — John Holmberg (01:46)
On Playdio Crowd Funding:
“No terrorism here…But there is guilt. And Brett will stand up there—oh, you don’t—no envelope from you? OK, how you doing? Enjoy tonight for free.” — John Holmberg (07:17)
On Workplace Harassment: “Calling a man bald can be a form of sexual harassment, a characteristic more prevalent in men.” — John Holmberg reading the news (13:45)
“Bald is our new N word. Only we’re allowed to use it. This is going to be awesome.” — John Holmberg (15:39)
“If you’re one of those horseshoe keepers, you’re not one of us…You look like a toilet seat…you look like a moron and you’re bald.” — John Holmberg (20:24)
On Changing Times:
“2005 was different…Somewhere around 12, 13, everybody kind of looked at each other and said, ‘Let’s make everything harder.’” — John Holmberg (19:00)
On Creating a Bald Advocacy Group:
“The NAABP…We’ve been pushed back too long by the man, oppressed.” — John Holmberg (20:27)
You’ll get all the Playdio finals updates you need—who’s actually performing, why some bands are in “witness protection,” and what to expect for the event itself.
If you’re bald (or just follicularly challenged), Holmberg’s got your back with a deep (and hilarious) dive into new workplace rules and the ever-blurrier line between protected status and office ribbing.
The crew’s stories about words you “can” and “can’t” say at work, the heartfelt NAABP proposal, and mock-serious bald advocacy will keep you laughing—and maybe thinking twice at your next office party.
Summary prepared by Podcast Summarizer AI | Holmberg’s Morning Sickness, 98KUPD