12-03-25 - Rock Wars - Best Obscure Or Little Known Song From Ozzy For His BDay

Summary

Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness – "Rock Wars: Best Obscure or Little Known Song from Ozzy for His BDay"

Date: December 3, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo
Podcast: 98KUPD | Hubbard Radio (Arizona)

---

Overview

This episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness celebrates Ozzy Osbourne’s 77th birthday with a special Rock Wars challenge. The crew—Holmberg, Brady, Brett, and Toledo—competes to pick the best "deep cut" or obscure Ozzy Osbourne solo song: one that wasn’t a commercial smash but should’ve been, showcasing the legend’s overlooked gems beyond his biggest hits.

They set ground rules: no hits, no Sabbath tracks—just Ozzy’s solo work that fans may have missed. The hosts each bring a lesser-known song to the table, debate Ozzy’s musical phases, and, as always, leave room for their friendly competitiveness and banter.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rock Wars Format & Ozzy’s Birthday Tribute

[03:14–04:42]

• The show’s “Rock Wars” segment challenges each host to pick a thematic song—in this case, to honor Ozzy Osbourne with a great solo deep cut.
• Criteria clarified by Holmberg:

  "Give me something that probably should have been on that [greatest hits] list... Not Sabbath. An Ozzy solo song that you’re like, man, everyone should know this. This is my go-to deep cut." (Host, 03:31)

• Emphasis on Ozzy’s depth as an artist:

  "He was, in his own way at a certain point where some of his good songs couldn't get over because the better ones overshadowed it." (Host, 10:50)

---

2. Song Selections and Rationale

Each host picks and justifies an Ozzy deep cut, revealing personal and musical insights:

Brady’s Pick: “I Don’t Want to Stop” (from Black Rain, 2007)

[06:53–08:15]

• Brady:

  "2007 off the Black Rain album." (06:53)
  "That was one of his best later tracks." (08:13)

• Host’s Commentary:

  "That was actually a really good song... The newer stuff didn’t get the pop that it should have because after the show on MTV and all the stuff, he kind of became campy." (06:55; 07:57)

• Brett adds trivia:

  "WWE used ‘I Don't Want to Stop’ as the official theme song for the pay per view Judgment Day. He later performed the song... on Jimmy Kimmel Live, VH1 Rock Honors, Guitar Hero, Madden NFL 08..." (Brett, 07:12)

• Despite the exposure, the group agrees it never reached “smash hit” status, fitting the deep cut requirement.

Brett’s Pick: “Rock and Roll Rebel” (from Bark at the Moon, 1983)

[08:19–09:03]

• Brett:

  "I'm gonna go back to Jakey Lee's first album with him from the Bark at the Moon album, 'Rock and Roll Rebel.'" (08:19)

• Brady:

  "They say I worship the devil... Got the laugh. Quintessential the devil. Everything in there, you know." (08:35, 08:46)

• Host:

  "And Jakey Lee's guitar. Oh, man... He had to follow Randy Rhodes. That was a tough gig." (08:52–08:58)

Host’s Pick: “Thunder Underground” (from Ozzmosis, 1995)

[09:03–10:11]

• Host:

  "I thought this was a mid-80s song. It turns out it was off Ozzmosis... I think it's the most Ozzy song that Ozzy ever." (09:03, 09:41)

• They reflect on Ozzmosis’s underrated stature, with several tracks that could have been bigger:

  "That whole album got played deadly here." (09:55)

---

3. Host Banter, Rock Wars Standings, and the Spirit of the Game

[03:43–04:42; 10:11–12:32]

• Brett and Brady lightly rib each other about standings:

  "Why do you do this to Brady?" (Brett, 03:43) "That's how the score is 17 to 17 to 4." (Host, 03:44)

• The hosts tease Brady for his losing streak but keep the contest friendly:

  "Brett sprinted past you. You haven't won since May 7th. Get on the ball, brother!" (Host, 03:56)

• Discuss possible "playoff" scenarios to keep things interesting:

  "Just to make it fun. There you go... Brady's will be worth that day after if he wins." (Host, 12:32)

---

4. Listener Interaction and Winner Selection

[11:07–11:52]

• They go to listener calls to pick a winner.
• First call, Frenchie:

  "I'm going to have to go with Brett, man. I love that album!" (Caller Frenchie, 11:15)

• Light-hearted reactions as Brett takes the win, leading the Rock Wars standings 18-17 over the host.

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Ozzy's later career:

  "After the show on MTV and all the stuff, he kind of became campy... when Ozzy released songs, it was like, 'oh, that's adorable.' He sort of lost the label." (Host, 07:57)

• Brady, on “Rock and Roll Rebel”:

  "They say I worship the devil... Got the laugh. Quintessential the devil. Everything in there, you know." (08:46–08:48)

• Rock Wars Summed Up:

  "Had he not had all the hits we know, and those three songs were his hits, they'd be legend." (Host, 10:50)

• Playful standings jab:

  "That's how the score is 17 to 17 to 4." (Host, 03:44)

---

Important Timestamps

• [03:14] – Introduction to this week’s Rock Wars and Ozzy birthday theme
• [06:53] – Brady introduces his pick: “I Don’t Want to Stop”
• [07:12] – Brett provides trivia on “I Don’t Want to Stop”
• [08:19] – Brett introduces “Rock and Roll Rebel”
• [09:03] – Host discusses “Thunder Underground” and Ozzmosis
• [11:07] – Listener (Frenchie) picks Brett’s song as Rock Wars winner
• [11:52] – Final scores, playful game banter

---

Conclusion

This episode captures the fun, camaraderie, and deep-cut Ozzy fandom that defines Holmberg’s Morning Sickness. The “Rock Wars” challenge exposes listeners to some of Ozzy Osbourne's lesser-known solo tracks with personal perspectives, trivia, and humor. Through their picks and banter, the hosts highlight why the Prince of Darkness is immortal—whether it’s a chart-topper or a hidden gem, every Ozzy song has a story.

Winner: Brett, with "Rock and Roll Rebel"
Standings: Brett leads Rock Wars 18-17

---

For Ozzy fans and rock enthusiasts, this episode is a celebration of musical discovery and a reminder that some of the best tracks never make the greatest hits.

Transcript

[Brady]

You're listening to the HMS Podcast, brought to you by mmpguns.com, your most trusted online marketplace for firearms, ammunition, and accessories.

[Hooters Announcer]

It's the holidays, and Hooters is serving up the cheer. Grab a friend and dive into the pick three. Just $10.99 per person, minimum two people. You get one appetizer, two entrees, and two drinks, all for just one festive price. And while you're there, snag the perfect stocking stuffer. The 2026 Hooters calendar, packed with over $150 in coupons. Plus, when you buy $25 in Hooters, you'll get $5 in bonus bucks this season. Give the gift of wings. Give the gift of Hooters.

[DSW Shoe Advertiser]

I've never felt like this before. It's like you just get me. I feel like my true self with you. Does that sound crazy? And it doesn't hurt that you're gorgeous. Okay, that's it. I'm taking you home with me. I mean, you can't find shoes this good just anywhere. Find a shoe for every you from brands you love, like Birkin stock, Nike, Adidas, and more at your DSW store or dsw dot com.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

You thought that was funny?

[DSW Shoe Advertiser]

You were laughing like a hyena when he said it. What the hell is wrong with you?

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Down, down. There you go. It's Zombie. Right there is Rob Zombie's new stuff. I listened yesterday on the drive. It was great. Really good. Very happy with that and very happy that Brett's not gonna.

Not gonna just let last night be the only time he shakes hands and kisses babies. Today he's going out again. Fisher Tools. You did this last year. Fisher Tools is having, like, a demo day, right?

[Brady]

Yeah, it's huge.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Gotta have the demo day. Fisher Tools is over on 3rd street in Tempe, just south of Rio Salado. If you want to go over there today, Brett's gonna be there right after the show, 11 o', clock. You're gonna head over, hang out until like, 1. And they're going to do all sorts of stuff. I remember we did one, I was you and I did the other one, and we got to drive all the big stuff. Letting you do that?

[Brady]

No, this is mostly like, like, hand tools and stuff and power tools.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

That's what I'm saying. You get to play with everything.

[Brady]

Oh, yeah, yeah. They got like 40 vendors or something out there. It's crazy.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

They got a shooting range like some of those other places.

[Brady]

I wouldn't say if they did or Not.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

That's a good man right there. I can hook you up. Anyways, it's going to be packed up with giveaways, and 30 top vendors in the tool industry can go over there, have lunch, hang out with Brett and the Big Red Radio. They're gonna give you some food you can park for free. They say that? That's what it says right here.

[Brady]

I know, I know.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

I said right here. Just see it like, free lunch.

[Brady]

That's what you need to know.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

That's all you need to worry about. It's a free lunch.

[Brady]

Come on, Brady, let's go.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

And they always say, sounds delicious. If they don't have it, they can't sell it. See what they've been the Valleys go to for tools for over 60 years. Fisher tools. Brett's gonna be out there to Nine Inch Nails. Tickets in your hand. Bad omens gonna be tickets. You give away KUPD stuff like crazy. So head on over there and say hi to Brett Chris, and see if you can shake it. Brett missed one of our listeners. He's like, you know, I haven't seen Chris for a while. I'm like, well, let's get him over to Fisher.

[Brady]

Yeah, yeah, I'll be waiting.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Maybe I'll have a T shirt for you. Be nice. That's a beautiful thing. Rock wars is right around the corner. It's already late. I won two weeks ago, so I'll do it this way. Ozzy Osbourne's birthday.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

All right, so I want you to give me a song that introduces me to Ozzy again, because it's one of the deeper cuts that makes you go, holy crud. Ozzy's awesome. One of those that isn't.

[Brady]

No crazy training.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

None of the hits.

[Brady]

Okay.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

All right. Give me something that probably should have been on that list. How about that? An Aussie song. Not Sabbath. An Ozzy solo song that you're like, man, everyone should know this. This is my go to deep cut on Ozzy. I got a couple albums. I can think of two songs.

[Brett]

Why do you do this to Brady?

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Yes. That's how. That's how the score is 17 to 17 to 4.

Brett's in 17. I've got 17. Brett's.

[Brett]

Brett spotted you guys three months.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Brett's first win was April 2nd. Brady's last win was May 7th. So I think Brett kind of just been a while. He sprinted past you. You haven't won since May 7th. Get on the ball, brother, and good luck. See, that's the thing about winning Toledo. Why do I do this? To Brady because I make it harder for the guys I'm giving. So a song that's deep. Ozzy, it's his birthday. So a deep Aussie cut that makes you say, man, that should have been one of the smashes. Don't know why it is. And it could be something we've heard, but it didn't really explode. You know what I mean? It didn't really explode. I've got a couple that I'm like, you probably know it. But it never really is in the mix of Ozzy's greatest.

[Brett]

Still would be deep for me. So.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Oh yeah, most of them are deep. And that's why you have four. Because we pick top topics wisely 34 times.

Let's get to it. You have any suggestions? If you've got an Aussie song that's in your head, go man. This is mine. And never gets played on the Never really did. It's Happy birthday to Ozzy. 77. Rock wars coming up next. Morning sickness.

[Vrbo Announcer]

The 98 KUPD with stays under $250 a night, Vrbo makes it easy to celebrate sweater weather. You could book a cabin, stay with leaf views for days. Or a brownstone in a city where festivals are just a walk away. Or a lakeside home with a fire pit for cozy nights with friends. Or if you're not a sweater person, we can call it corduroy weather. More flexible. And with stays under $250 a night, you can book a home that suits your exact needs. Book now at Verbo Dot Comberg's morning sickness.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Ah, better late than never. It is time for rock wars.

And it's brought to you by our friends at Mo Money Pond. A couple weeks since I've done this. Gotta get my paper back. There's that, there's that, there's that. Where's the page now, for crying out.

[Brady]

Short and long term.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

I know. There it is. Shorter long term collateral loans from $10 to $100,000 or more. No credit needed in top dollar. Paid with the entire process. Just taking several minutes. Mo Money pawn.com specials going galore at MMP Guns as well. Yeah, give it a hundred bucks off the builder classes. Ask for it by name when you see it.

[Brady]

And I got the Byron special still going on.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Byron Christmas special has just come up. Yeah, Santa Byron is there. And if you catch him sitting down and you get on his lap and tell him what you want, he has to give it to you. Free picture, man. Yeah, but you got to sit down and a free picture. Of course. Of Course, that goes without saying.

All right. The topic this week, because it's Ozzy's birthday. We lost him back in July celebrating Ozzy's birthday with a song that I guess the best way to say wouldn't make it on to the Greatest Hits because it wasn't necessarily a commercial smash, but you could hear it and go, man, that is the. That is the Aussie song I would love if it were a hit, if it were a bigger song. Quintessential Ozzy Osbourne. Brady, I'll start with you because I'm curious what you found on the Internet.

[Brady]

2007 off the black Rain album.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Oh, I Don't Want to Stop. Oh yeah, that was the. That was actually really good song.

[Brady]

It was.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

They. And this was solid. Right?

[Brett]

And I get you guys. I did with Bret's song too. So I'm not doing it with just yours. Here's some facts about I Don't Want to Stop.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Okay.

[Brett]

WWE used I Don't Want to Stop as the official theme song for the pay per view Judgment Day. And he later performed the song live during WWE Friday Night Smackdown. Performed it on Jimmy Kimmel Live. He performed it at VH1 Rock Honors. It was also featured in the video game Guitar Hero on tour. Was it Madden NFL 08? And still though released as downloadable content.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

For Rock Band to his credit. Never a huge smash though.

[Brett]

Right? That's why I'm just giving.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Just everywhere.

[Brett]

Just giving you the facts. It was out there, everywhere.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

This song should have been bigger.

And this is the most Toledoed you'd ever been. Cuz the whole time he was talking.

[Brett]

I cut it up to the. To the chorus.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

It's a good one. It's a good choice, Brady. Cuz the newer stuff didn't ever get the pop that it should have because after the show on MTV and all the stuff, he kind of became campy. So when Ozzy released songs, it was like, oh, that's adorable. He sort of lost the label.

[Brady]

That was one of his best later tracks.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Really good. Yeah, I Don't Want to Stop. That's a solid one. All right, Brett.

[Brady]

I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back to Jakey Lee's first album with him from the Bark of the Moon album, Rock and Roll Rebel.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

I don'.

[Brady]

They say I worship the devil.

Got the laugh.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Got everything.

[Brady]

Quintessential the devil. Everything in there, you know.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

And Jakey Lee's guitar. Oh, man.

Good one.

[Brady]

And he had to follow Randy Rhodes.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

I mean that was a tough gift.

That's a solid one. Nice choice there. Rock and roll, Rebe. I thought the song that popped in my head was 10 years older than it actually is. I thought this was a mid-80s song. And it turns out it was off of Osmosis, which I just looked up. I didn't realize how great that album was. And it came out in 95. Perry Mason, see youe on the Other side. And then I chose Thunder Underground, which I think is the most Aussie song that Ozzy ever.

I love the song.

And I couldn't remember if I played it a lot or if it was played a lot, so I Googled it and said, was it a hit? And Google said, no, we played the.

[Brady]

Hell out of it here. But I mean, yeah, but I mean.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

That whole album got played deadly here. Yeah.

All right, now that's everything you want from a.

That's great. I like that one. We got good choices here, gentlemen. Who will it be? We'll go to the final call. We don't have time for any of that stuff. And I don't think John Gordon's friends with us anymore.

Because we didn't pick him. You know, Will it be Brady's choice? I don't want to stop. From 2007 for Ozzy. Will it be Brett's choice? Rock and roll rebel from 84.

[Brady]

Three, I think.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

No kidding. Yeah.

[Brady]

He was on Bark at the Moon.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Good Lord. It will be 1995's Thunder Underground, the song that isn't one of Ozzy's big hits, but makes you say, man, that dude was great even when he wasn't flashing. I think all three of those are good.

[Brady]

Yeah. People are digging deep on this, too.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Had he not had all the hits we know, and those three songs were his hits, they'd be legend. He was, in his own way at a certain point where some of his good songs couldn't get over because the better ones overshadowed it. Who will win it? We'll go to the phones, find out.

All right, I'm just grab. I'm grabbing wildly and saying, hi, there. Who's this?

Oh, are you there? Oh, boy. Here we go. Hi, there. Who's this? Hey, this Frenchie. How you guys doing? Oh, Frenchie's on. All right, Frenchie, what do you got for us? Who's going to win this week? I'm going to have to go with Brett, man. I love that album. Once Randy Rhodes passed, that was awesome, man. Brett was smirking. You didn't think he'd pick you.

[Brady]

I thought he was gonna go with you on this one really was gonna go.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Frenchie loves me. Yeah.

[Brady]

David Vasquez wanted to put his for you.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

Good job, Gaultier. Talk to you later. There you go. That's the win. Brett gets the win and puts. Damn it takes lead 18:17 into the final week. Two weeks. Yeah.

This one says my vote goes to Brady because I can't vote for bald today. Come on. Talk about this. That is harassing.

You lose your job. Vasquez. How does he have a job?

The HR department's tied up in the corner with chloroform everywhere. All right, we'll do it. You got it. Ready? Toledo after the break. Oh, I see. We'll do it after the big. Yeah. Rock and roll. Rebel, you son of a bitch. Right now it's 1817. And that's really all we need to concern ourselves mathematically eliminated. But Brady's got four. But you never. Hey, last week. We'll do it for all. That's a playoffs you get. There's three playoffs.

[Brady]

Sure.

[Host (possibly Chris or main host)]

I don't know. We'll draw out of a hat the number that Brady's will be worth that day after if he wins. Just to make it fun. There you go. It's coming up next. Ozzy's birthday. Happy birthday, Oz. Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.