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John Holmberg
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John Holmberg
You thought that was funny?
You were laughing like a hyena when he said it.
Larry
What the hell is wrong with you?
Who's that?
John Holmberg
That's a legend.
Larry
Ooh.
John Holmberg
Rock and roll hall of Famer Trent Reznor. And Nine Inch Nails is who that is. Nine Inch Nails? You've never heard of Nine Inch Nails? You're making fun of Larry.
Larry
No. I think I have. Nine Inch Nails. Yeah.
John Holmberg
Nine Inch Nails am.
Larry
Yeah. Yeah.
John Holmberg
Amazing. The early stuff is out of this world changes to changes music. They change. They did with Brett. They changed music. Absolutely. They changed the way things got.
Larry
Larry Centers changed football.
John Holmberg
Larry center's changed the Cardinals. Let's get right to it. Let's get to our picks. Fanduel's bringing them to you. And our FanDuel picks last week. Not good, boys. Well, my Steelers were horrible. You got yours. Cowboys got theirs. And Brady, you went with the Ravens on Thursday night. Yeah, I was with you on that. I think everybody would have done that bet, taking the Ravens over the Bengals. I mean, you know, I didn't see it Going the way it did. Boy, that division's bad. So let's get right to it. Your Bears are playing the packers in Green Bay. Sticking with my boys. Oh, he goes. He's gonna be the one that screws us.
Larry
No, no.
John Holmberg
Gonna be the one that screws us this week. Are the Cowboys playing? Are they off?
Larry
Yeah, they play tonight.
John Holmberg
Oh, they played tonight. They got two Thursdays in a row.
Larry
Yeah, they got the Lions in Detroit. Yeah, well, I think the spread's 3.
John Holmberg
3.
Larry
I'll take the Cowboys with the no points.
John Holmberg
We're not doing that anymore. We got yelled at for last week. We're not doing it anymore.
Larry
Who'd you get yelled at?
John Holmberg
You did. You started bitching about sissy bets. The guy emailed in. And so I made a second bet last week with no points. I got beat twice because of you pricks. No points.
Larry
Cowboys are Lions emailed in? I didn't say that.
John Holmberg
Cowboys, Lions. No points. Like a man. You yelled at him for taking points. Yeah, So I just went straight up. He didn't believe.
Larry
Give me the cowbo. As we march towards the damn playoffs, Johnny.
John Holmberg
It looks like it. I'll take. I'm going to bet my Steelers for one last time. They got the Ravens and after.
Larry
After.
John Holmberg
In Baltimore. But after the fire, Tomlin, Chance and all the stuff that happened there, this team either shows some pride or they disappear and they're. It's too prideful an organization to go in and lose to your biggest rival. After that mess last week.
Larry
Does Lamar ever lose to the Steelers? He's.
John Holmberg
Yeah, he's like 2 and 6. Steelers are the only team that own him. Although the last couple times have not been friendly last year.
Larry
So we. As long as three of us lose, then that's.
John Holmberg
Well, Brady, Bengals are playing the Bills in Buffalo.
Dale
In Buffalo. I'm going with the Bills.
John Holmberg
Going with the Bills. After the performance last week of the Bengals.
Dale
Yeah, I think it's Smoking Joe's.
Larry
You just.
John Holmberg
You just won't.
Dale
Bills, they got. They. They have to. The wins. More important for the Bills.
John Holmberg
Why the Bengals when they can still win the division?
Larry
They're still in the playoff hunt.
John Holmberg
Yeah, The Bengals are two games back.
Dale
I'm five and one with the Bengals right now on my kicks.
John Holmberg
Picking against them. Smart. Yeah, because you're. Most of the time this year, picking against them is the wise move. I don't know.
Dale
I don't know. What.
John Holmberg
All right, we got the Bears, we got the Bills, we got the Steelers, and we've got the Cowboys. Three of us Voting with our heart.
Larry
One.
John Holmberg
One of us is voting smartly. Probably wise, and I guess what it's going to be one in three. Brady's gonna lose. You're gonna be paying 33.
Larry
Oh, that would be good. That would be pretty good.
John Holmberg
37.87 is our bet. Plus 30, so it's a $3,780 if we hit this one.
Larry
Wow.
John Holmberg
It's pretty good.
Larry
That would be really good. That would be absolutely no chance.
John Holmberg
I don't think so either. I think the biggest. You know what? I think the place is a realist, too. The one that's screwing us is him.
Larry
It might be over. It might be over tonight. I don't know.
John Holmberg
I like the Cowboys being Detroit's pretty banged up. They're messed up.
Larry
Pretty banged up.
John Holmberg
We'll see. But let's see if we can pull 3,700 bucks out of.
Larry
Oh, that'd be nice. 37 divided by four.
John Holmberg
Well, it's not 37 divided by four because I got to take my money back for the bet.
Larry
So 36.
John Holmberg
So 36 and then last week's money. I'll take that back.
Larry
No, no, you're not.
John Holmberg
Yeah, I'll find a number for you.
Larry
Yeah, about 900. Johnny, it's west War.
John Holmberg
It'd be somewhere in the area ballpark. That. That seems right.
Larry
I still gotta figure out how to get my money out of Apple, pay for the one that we won.
John Holmberg
Still sitting there. Yeah, it's a retirement. Have your daughters figure that out for you.
Larry
Even they looked at. I don't know how to do this.
John Holmberg
You've got grandkids now.
Larry
The.
John Holmberg
The little.
Larry
The little Gram.
John Holmberg
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was he four?
Larry
Now he's five.
John Holmberg
He's five. Jesus Christ. That was fast.
Larry
Yes.
John Holmberg
All right. Yeah, he'll figure it out. He's smarter than you with the phone, I guarantee it.
Larry
I'm just keeping it in there so I can pay.
Dale
You guys pass that on.
John Holmberg
Probably smart.
Dale
Christmas.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Larry
Graham doesn't need any more money.
John Holmberg
He's doing all right.
Larry
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Love it. All right. That's it. Man, oh, man. I don't like that bet at all.
Larry
Well, that's why it's 37.
John Holmberg
I'm leaning hard into my end. And then I think, now we'll see. Maybe we all. Maybe this is the feeling we should have. And then we'll win. Because whenever we're confident, we get blasted.
Larry
It's. It's like playing a football game. There's been several games I played, and I went, ah. I didn't Play that well, then you.
John Holmberg
Watch film like I was pretty good.
Larry
All right.
John Holmberg
Yeah. All right. We'll see.
Larry
I don't think that's the case now.
John Holmberg
Probably not. Dale joins me later for that sports thing, the broadcast of my podcast Sports. He's a permanent guest now. I'm pretty thank him for showing up once again. There are others, but it's the homework Sportscast podcast. It's a podcast for sports. It's that sports thing. I. I don't want to go too crazy and put my name on the.
Larry
Title, but it's you. You assume total control.
John Holmberg
Yep.
Larry
Total creative control.
John Holmberg
And it's going well.
Larry
And you went into to this beginning saying, well, I'll be a guest.
John Holmberg
It's going really well. And you're welcome. All you're saying is. All you're saying is please say you're welcome. And I did. But yeah, it's. It's that. And then it's going really well. And now it's available on all streaming platforms. I was wise to see if you guys could keep up with me, so I gave it a few weeks.
Larry
Right.
John Holmberg
Let's start pushing it a little. We'll start advertising it some because I was kind of embarrassed to be in the room with you and make like this thing work.
Larry
Me or with the other guy?
John Holmberg
Well, all of you. I knew I'd make it tick. But having you two in there was like, let's see if this works. Is there chemistry? It's going very well. I'm doing very well with the limited resources.
Larry
20 years, Brady.
John Holmberg
How have you done 25. That sports. Well, I've never complained about him that way.
Larry
It's always been the whole bird show.
John Holmberg
I've never had to worry about him thinking he's good at this.
Larry
Equal to you.
John Holmberg
Yeah. The morning couple. He knows. Yeah. It popped up now and again. So he got freeze to him. He found an angle. He found a back door and got some free food. But that was going to happen.
Larry
So how do you find this sports thing everywhere? Is it the sports thing or it's a sports thing?
John Holmberg
I have no idea. That sports thing. That's a tomato thing. That sports thing. And it's right there on the. You can pick it. You can Google it. You can. You can put it up on Apple and Spotify and Cloud and whatever it's Cloud Stream, Stream Club. What's that thing called? I don't even know what they're all those everywhere. You find one SoundCloud. That's the one. It's everywhere. It's even Got a little logo. Look at that. See 98kpd.com podcast or Apple Amazon podcast. The sports thing. And we should know. John Holmberg podcast. That's right. With Dale Hellstray. And guest. And guest.
Larry
Yeah.
John Holmberg
So you're on. You're on the title card. Ash doesn't get he's and the others right now from Gilligan's island or what. He's teetering on whether or not he's gonna stick around for the permanent. So we don't want going to print up cards. Let's just say that.
Larry
He might not stay on the island. No, no, no.
John Holmberg
We can vote him off any minute. Yeah. Although I have a couple conspiracies I'm going to hit him with later today. I'm very excited about. It's 1003. Let's get right to it. The entertainment drills brought to you by our friends@reactdefense.com the home of tactical black self defense training. The holiday special is basically their 25th anniversary special. Going to give you a month of training for 89 bucks. Which is fantastic. Learn how to defend yourself in situations that go sideways, goofy and crazy right in front of you. Would you know what to do? Do you know how to fight? I talked to a guy at the plato thing that I goes I did martial arts for years. I'm like you're perfect now. Do you know how to street fight? Because you can take your martial arts and that guy's never going to tap out. Do you have what it takes to blow his shoulder up? Do you have end this fight? Because dudes that you fight don't have rules. Sports, sport, fighting has rules. The guys that are fighting you don't. A lot of times they trained in prison and all the stuff you're not allowed to do because they know they're going to fight a guy who squares up to box and he's dead. So they teach all that stuff. But bring your skills with no matter what you have, it's what you carry around with you every single day. That's your current defense level. Learn how to use it. Hone it. Be a sheepdog. Stop being a sheep. React defense.com the home of tactical Black Brady Entertainment.
Dale
I think you boys might be excited about this. Martin Scorsese. He's going to executive produce a new series on Netflix that's taking place in Las Vegas.
John Holmberg
Okay.
Dale
A modern day Vegas.
John Holmberg
Today's Vegas. Scorsese is going to do Casino 2025. Yep.
As to do with no, nothing to do with the other ones. From what I understand. It's just basically run.
Larry
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Well, this weird thing he's doing on Fox Nation with the Bible and the saints thing I haven't seen. Have you watched any of that?
Larry
No.
John Holmberg
I have to download Fox Nation for that. I think I'm on a whole bunch of lists. If I do that, I don't want. I don't want to get advertisement for that. Next thing you know, all they'll do is talk to me about my pillow and Toledo's wife's gonna chase you down. It's just the advertising would be the problem.
Dale
Bad Bunny is Spotify's most streamed artist in the world for a record setting fourth year.
John Holmberg
No kidding.
Larry
Wow.
John Holmberg
Two languages. It's a big deal.
Larry
Wow.
John Holmberg
The US and all the Spanish speaking nations. He's got him. He's got him by the balls.
Larry
All I know is I have Spotify and that whenever it goes to that track of. This is what's popular on Spotify today.
John Holmberg
You don't know who any of it is. You know how to work Spotify.
Larry
Fast forward. Fast forward.
John Holmberg
I am. I gotta tell you, Skip, I am you turning a Shannon shark. Skip, Skip, Skip, Skip. Listen, Skip, listen. They are going to skip all the.
Dale
US podcasts on Spotify. Rogan won Ohmberg this past weekend with Theo Vaughn.
John Holmberg
The sports show, the John Holmberg podcast.
Dale
Call her daddy and crown junk.
John Holmberg
It's a John humble Spike Lee joint. You know, I should have called. It's a homebird joint.
Larry
Yeah.
John Holmberg
Scott Haynes says your show is kind of like your Chris Gaines. You dress up as a different guy. I do a whole different show. It's good, it's fun. If you like sports talk and goofy silly stuff, it's fun.
Dale
Dale's got a fascinating story.
John Holmberg
All right, go deal.
Larry
Why do you waste paper on these vision to knock down a forest? There's an animated Chuck E. Cheese Christmas special on YouTube.
John Holmberg
A full story.
Larry
This year's random Christmas special isn't one found on TV or streaming services. It's free on YouTube. It's called a Chuck E. Cheese Christmas.
John Holmberg
How Fun stars Chuck E. Cheese.
Larry
You ever eat in a Chuck E. Cheese? I did. I have, yeah.
John Holmberg
Yeah. Well I mean that's like for kids birthday party. You don't go, I used to be a kid, Dale.
Larry
They weren't around.
Dale
I'm going there for lunch today.
John Holmberg
They used to have the. I was there when it was authentic. It wasn't on TV screens. I remember the animatronic band, that showbiz pizza they had both of them around here.
Larry
Yep.
John Holmberg
They were in competition. It was either one was good when you were a kid. Oh yeah. And you go now and it's like everything's digitized. The screen is cartoons.
Larry
It. It stars Chuck E. Cheese and his band mates from Munch's make believe band.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Larry
Who throws Santa Claus surprise birthday party to lift his Christmas spirit and.
John Holmberg
Sounds great.
Larry
The holidays.
Dale
They saved Christmas.
John Holmberg
When's the last time you went to a Chuck e. Cheese?
Larry
Probably 15 years.
John Holmberg
No kidding.
Larry
When I go to people. Peter Piper now with my grandson.
John Holmberg
Why do kids like like the most basic pizza? They have no pizza.
Larry
Yeah. They're going for the tour.
John Holmberg
Peter Piper has games.
Larry
The game.
John Holmberg
Yeah.
Larry
Yeah.
John Holmberg
I just thought they were just.
Dale
I go there two times a week.
John Holmberg
You go to Peter Piper. That's. You don't even eat.
Larry
You just so many bouncy pit knock kids out.
John Holmberg
I lost my dog.
Dale
Who wants to help me move?
John Holmberg
You got a little stain. Let me stain. You got a little stain on your pants.
Larry
Let me.
John Holmberg
There's no reason for you to be there. That's it for us. We're all done, aren't we? You got anything all good? Nope. Nobody's doing anything. Everybody look at the ceiling tiles. Do I live here still? That's it for us. This sports thing is going up today. Later tonight probably. We'll get that together and we'll get all. All the sports talk that you didn't get here will go on there. Plus Nash usually has something ridiculous and goes nuts. And we have a blind listener that hates Dave Nash so much. Sean Hockfellow hates Dave Nash so much, he emails me while we do the podcast and it hasn't even been out yet. He just starts complaining about Dave Nash while I'm in there. So it's pretty awesome. We're done. Larry's coming up next. He knows nothing about football. We'll talk to you tomorrow in the morning.
Larry
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Date: December 4, 2025
Hosted by: John Holmberg, with Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo, and special guest Dale Hellestrae
Main Topics: NFL Week 14 Picks, Podcast Updates, Entertainment News, Chuck E. Cheese Christmas Special
This episode seamlessly blends NFL Week 14 discussions and picks, candid banter among the hosts, and entertainment headlines, all delivered in the signature irreverent Holmberg style. Guest Dale Hellestrae joins the crew for football talk and shares in podcaster in-jokes and light-hearted nostalgia. The show closes with details about a Chuck E. Cheese Christmas special and tongue-in-cheek commentary about pizza places for kids.
Start: 01:47 | Main Picks Segment: 01:47 – 06:04
The hosts openly reflect on last week’s poor betting performance and line up their hopes (or lack thereof) for this week.
John’s Steelers disappointment sets a self-deprecating tone:
“My Steelers were horrible... this team either shows some pride or they disappear.” (John, 01:47–03:14)
Picks this week are:
“I’ll take the Cowboys with the no points.” (Larry, 02:35)
A running gag on “manly” bets versus point spreads, with John referencing email backlash:
“You started bitching about sissy bets. The guy emailed in... I got beat twice because of you pricks. No points.” (John, 02:43–02:53)
They visualize the payout:
“So it’s a $3,780 if we hit this.” (John, 04:31)
“That would be really good. That would be absolutely no chance.” (Larry, 04:40)
The interplay is flavorfully skeptical, full of ribbing about “heart” picks, past missteps, and how little faith they really have in their hopeful parlay.
Timestamps: 05:15 – 06:04
“Even they looked at it. I don’t know how to do this.” (Larry, 05:30) “He’ll figure it out. He’s smarter than you with the phone, I guarantee it.” (John, 05:42)
Timestamps: 06:24 – 08:26
John plugs his own spinoff podcast, banters about creative control, and playfully jabs at his co-hosts’ chemistry:
“Dale joins me later for that sports thing... it’s the Holmberg Sportscast podcast. It’s a podcast for sports...” (John, 06:24–06:45) “I knew I’d make it tick. But having you two in there was like, let’s see if this works. Is there chemistry? It’s going very well.” (John, 07:16–07:25)
References confusion about the podcast name and where to find it:
“That sports thing. That’s a tomato thing. That sports thing... you can Google it. Apple, Amazon podcasts, SoundCloud. That’s the one. It’s everywhere.” (John, 07:54–08:11)
Timestamps: 09:53 – 12:04
a. Martin Scorsese Developing New Vegas Series
“Martin Scorsese... executive produce a new series on Netflix that’s taking place in Las Vegas.” (Dale, 09:53)
“Scorsese’s gonna do Casino 2025. Yup.” (John, 10:06)
b. Bad Bunny Dominates Spotify Again
“Bad Bunny is Spotify’s most streamed artist in the world for a record-setting fourth year.” (Dale, 10:41)
“Two languages. It’s a big deal... He’s got them by the balls.” (John, 10:51)
“You don’t know who any of it is. You know how to work Spotify?” (John, 11:03)
“Fast forward. Fast forward.” (Larry, 11:07)
c. US Podcast Rankings
“US Podcasts on Spotify: Rogan, Womberg, This Past Weekend with Theo Von, Call Her Daddy, Crime Junk.” (Dale, 11:19–11:31)
“It’s a John humble Spike Lee joint... I should have called... it’s a Holmberg joint.” (John, 11:31–11:39)
Timestamps: 12:03 – 13:23
Surprise talk about the “random Christmas special” not on TV/streaming but YouTube:
“There’s an animated Chuck E. Cheese Christmas special on YouTube.” (Larry, 12:03)
“It stars Chuck E. Cheese and his bandmates... who throw Santa Claus a surprise birthday party to lift his Christmas spirit.” (Larry, 12:43)
Nostalgia:
“I was there when it was authentic. The animatronic band, that showbiz pizza... now... everything’s digitized.” (John, 12:25–12:34)
“Why do kids like the most basic pizza?... They’re going for the tour.” (John, 13:03; Larry, 13:09)
On betting with the heart vs. logic:
“Three of us voting with our heart. One of us is voting smartly. Probably wise.” (John, 04:14)
On podcast chemistry:
“I knew I’d make it tick. But having you two in there was like, let’s see if this works... Is there chemistry? It’s going very well. I’m doing very well with limited resources.” (John, 07:16–07:28)
On generational divide with music tech:
“You don’t know who any of it is. You know how to work Spotify?”
“Fast forward. Fast forward.” (John and Larry, 11:03–11:07)
On Chuck E. Cheese nostalgia:
“I was there when it was authentic... the animatronic band... now everything’s digitized.” (John, 12:25–12:34)
The episode is typical “Morning Sickness”: sarcastic, quick-witted, and deeply self-referential. Jokes and inside ribbing are constant, but there’s a solid flow from sports to entertainment, always sprinkled with the hosts’ personal quirks and Arizona flavor.
Summary Usefulness:
Listeners get both sports betting context (and the hosts’ humble humor about losing), updates on new entertainment content, and a sense of the warm, teasing camaraderie that defines this show. You’ll catch the sports picks, new Scorsese project, why Bad Bunny still rules Spotify, and where to find a Chuck E. Cheese Christmas special—all with that trademark Holmberg edge.