12-08-25 - Details On The KUPD Concert Pass - Entertainment Drill - MON - Recapping The Cinnabon Racist From Earlier As Emailers Have Revealed Themselves - Shirley Manson From Garbage Hate Beachballs At Concerts

Summary

Podcast Summary: Holmberg’s Morning Sickness – 12-08-25

Episode Title: Details On The KUPD Concert Pass - Entertainment Drill - Recapping The Cinnabon Racist - Shirley Manson Hates Beachballs
Date: December 8, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo
Tone: Irreverent, humorous, edgy morning radio banter

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Overview

This episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness covers several themes, centering on ongoing listener reactions to the "Cinnabon racist" controversy, details about the KUPD Concert Pass, quirky entertainment news, and a humorous discussion about Shirley Manson’s onstage rant about beach balls. The hosts navigate awkward cultural discourse with their trademark snark, while also delivering lighthearted pop culture updates.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. KUPD Concert Pass & App Promotion

• KUPD is offering a Concert Pass that grants access to every KUPD show in 2026. Entry is through a tap on their app, with The Offspring as the featured band of the week.
• Side anecdotes about a K-Pop/anime event in Mesa:
  • Larry recounts going to an anime event with his daughter, tying it to jokes about K-Pop fandoms, age, and crowd demographics.
• Notable Banter:
  • “We went to this like K Pop anime mini parking lot convention thing in Mesa…Human trafficking. Daughter wanted to go. Sounds human trafficking to me.” (Brett, 01:38)
  • Playful confusion over “Studio Ghibli” vs “Kimmy Gibbler” from Full House.

2. Recap: The "Cinnabon Racist" Incident and Somalian Controversy

• Listener emails flood in after a Cinnabon employee’s racist remarks go viral.
• Hosts’ Reaction:
  • Brett expresses surprise at the intensity of anti-Somali sentiment in the emails.
  • The team discusses bad customer relations, the GoFundMe for the employee reaching $100,000, and the broader pattern of public outrage.
• Dark Satire:
  • Numerous facetious, edgy jokes dissect American reactions to Somali immigrants, mocking conspiratorial fears and addressing racism through parody and exaggeration.
  • “I thought everybody’d kind of be on the same page with the Cinnabon girl being wrong…you can be mad at Somalians, but the way she handled it, probably not the best, right?” (Brett, 05:00)
  • Parodying paranoia: “Somebody told me they're all over here too, like on Thomas and 52nd Street…I gotta check my walls later.” (Brett, 06:21)
  • Mock prayer: “Can the Somalian overflow of Minnesota please eat our headquarters and all the Bobs and all the owners and all the people, please…” (Brett, 09:43)
• Key Message:
  • “You can’t go calling people the N-word at work, no matter how mad you are. It never works.” (Brett, 08:34; Byron, 08:39)

3. Entertainment Drill: Pop Culture & Celebrity News

• Segment Sponsor: ReactDefense.com, home of Tactical Black self-defense.
  • Jokingly pitched as a way to defend “from the Somalian guy walking around here in Phoenix.”
  • De-escalation skills highlighted as a more appropriate response than the Cinnabon incident.

News Covered:

• Trump’s Proposal to Rename American Football:
  • Brainstorming names: “pigskin,” “Trump Ball,” “Hand Egg,” “Ball of America,” “Millionaire Fight Club,” etc.
  • “Why don’t you call it American Football?” “Trump Ball.” “That’s pretty good.” (11:41–11:48)
• Us Weekly’s Top Christmas Movies by IMDb Score:
  • Fun at list’s expense, particularly It’s a Wonderful Life.
  • “It’s a movie about mental health and a deranged man…who’s also suicidal…” (Brett, 13:40)
  • Satirical summary of It’s a Wonderful Life: “He goes back and finds out his mom’s running a brothel. This is a Christmas movie? No, this is darker than Brokeback Mountain.” (Brett, 14:24)
• Bionic Woman 50th Anniversary:
  • Lindsay Wagner’s pop-up store and video chat events, lampooned for nostalgia and the reality of aging celebrities.
  • “I don’t want to see what’s happened to her over the last 50 years.” (Brett, 15:46)
• Shirley Manson (Garbage) vs. Beach Balls at Concerts:
  • Recap of Manson’s onstage rant, calling for the crowd to “punch him in his face” (the beach ball tosser).
  • “Violence is not the answer, Shirley!” yelled by a fan, ends the viral video (17:01)
  • Aftermath: She apologizes at the next show but gets booed.
  • “Get to Stupid Girl and get off the stage…I’m only happy when it rains. Okay, you’re done.” (Brett, 17:25)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Cinnabon Incident:
  • “The N word and then go and suck it, suck it. I think that’s bad customer relations.” (Brett, 05:23)
  • “You can’t go calling people the N word at work, no matter how mad you are. It never works.” (Brett, 08:34)
• Listener Email Satire:
  • “Cockroaches aren’t scary. I can step on those too. But when you see one, there’s a thousand more in your walls.” (Listener via Brett, 05:56)
• About “It’s a Wonderful Life”:
  • “If you think you die and the world falls apart, you’ve got delusions. You’re schizophrenic.” (Brett, 13:40)
• Shirley Manson Rant:
  • “She told him to kill the guy right now. Who loved beach balls…” (Brett, 16:37)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 01:19 – KUPD Concert Pass promotion, Offspring as artist, anime event banter
• 04:58 – Listener email reactions on the "Cinnabon racist"
• 05:22 – Breaking down the GoFundMe for the Cinnabon employee
• 06:21 – Satirizing anti-Somali sentiment, “check my walls later”
• 09:43 – Mock prayer for Somalians to “eat the Bobs” at Hubbard Broadcasting
• 11:21 – Entertainment Drill starts
• 11:25 – Trump’s football naming ideas
• 12:32 – Christmas movies rankings debate
• 13:40 – Shellacking “It’s a Wonderful Life”
• 15:13 – Bionic Woman nostalgia
• 16:14 – Shirley Manson’s beach ball meltdown recap
• 17:12 – Aftermath and fan reactions

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Episode Takeaways

• Podcast’s overall vibe: Comfortably offensive, rapid-fire riffing on social controversies, music, and entertainment oddities.
• Major recurring theme: The absurdity of outraged reactions—both to the "Cinnabon racist" moment and overwrought celebrity outbursts.
• Humor as a lens: The hosts use comedy—often dark—to dissect contemporary events and pop culture, inviting listeners to laugh at (not necessarily with) society’s excesses.

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Transcript

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[Brett Vesely]

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Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. The Offspring are the band of the week. If you're listening on the app, tap on that little thing on your phone or your screen or whatever you got to do, and you are automatically qualified for tickets to every KUPD show next year. That is the KUPD concert Pass. You might win tickets to every Single show in 2026. Am I right? And the Offspring is this week's artist. So tap away on that app and get that together and maybe walk out of here with every single ticket to 2026 CUPD shows. And there's a lot of them. If it's on our pop shows on the list, maybe if you slip it in there, be like, hey, we'll tell you about this just so you can. Don't do that with K Pop. Larry just did two fingers and slip it in after showing me pictures of his K Pop adventure and they're all 13. It was more for the anime stuff that we went for. We went to this like K Pop anime mini parking lot convention thing in Mesa over the weekend. Human trafficking. Daughter wanted to go. Sounds human trafficking to me. It was but it sounds like teenagers. Meet me in the parking lot. No parents should allow that. But that was it. I couldn't believe how many people there were. There was like 50 something vendors. There was like 300 people there. My daughter won this huge prize pack of raffle prizes.

[Byron]

It was incredible.

[Brett Vesely]

It's very strange, but I'm glad you enjoyed your weekend. But the anime stuff, that's more what we're into.

[Byron]

Not to the.

[Brett Vesely]

Not the. The cape as a family. Yeah, yeah. A family of anime. I'm into the anime stuff. Are you? Yeah. What Studio Ghibli. I love the Studio Ghibli stuff. This is all new. Did you know this about our friend Larry? No. I didn't either. I love the anime. All right. I do.

[Byron]

Any relation to Kim Ghibli? No.

[Brett Vesely]

That's Kimmy Gibbler. You're thinking of Kimmy Gibbler, the neighbor. I do always like to say that. Give me Gibble. Give me Giblet. Yeah, Kimmy Gibbler.

[Byron]

The.

[Brett Vesely]

Is she the. What was the porn star's name? The friend on Full House. But then there's Kimmy Granger. That's who I'd like to see. That's Kimmy Granger's. The one that. I don't know. Kimmy Gibbler is gross. Yeah. Anyway, well, thanks, Larry. Yeah, tap that track. Yeah, tap that track for the Offspring. And then, of course, as I said before, if we might slip that in there. And then Larry made that weird finger reference and I'm like, yes, you did. Did he not do the. Yeah, you're right, it is. That's why I pointed it out. Win all those tickets and maybe Larry can explain that to you later. But make sure that you have everybody ID'd before we get. He's like the Tempe Tavern.

[Byron]

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[Brett Vesely]

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Yeah, today is an interesting day. All my emails are, you know, very funny. As usual. You listeners are quite hilarious a lot of the times. And then a few of you, quite a few of you, very nervous about the Somalians. I thought everybody'd kind of be on the same page with the Cinnabon girl being wrong, at least how she handled it. You can be mad at Somalians, but the way she handled it, probably not the best, right?

[Byron]

Didn't seem that way.

[Brett Vesely]

The N word and then go and suck it, suck it. I think that's bad customer relations. No matter how mad you are at the customer, not going to go your way. So she's got that thing. It's up to paying off. Nice work. 100 grand so far. And I haven't checked recently with the pimp and he had. I haven't seen where the number has gone, but her GoFundMe hit a hundred thousand dollars for that. And then I started to see all these people who are. I think they're watching the news too much. They suddenly have too much information about Somalians. And one guy told me, he said, because I said Somalia, like, I've never seen one that, like, isn't emaciated. Like, they think I'm not too worried about it. And guy goes, cockroaches aren't scary. I can step on those too. But when you see one, there's a thousand more in your walls. And I'm like, does that mean there's thousands of Somalians in our walls? If I see one? You know what I mean? No, I don't. They're in my sewers.

Muslim lover. And then that just ends.

I just don't think. I'm afraid. Somebody told me they're all over here too, like on Thomas and 52nd Street. I live pretty close to that, so I gotta check my walls later.

I'm not really concerned about the Somalians. They had their own country, really good.

[Byron]

With recommending wine and stuff.

[Brett Vesely]

No, that's Somalia. That's different. They're different. And they can be pirate. Like. Sometimes those guys will jump up on your car and start trying to feed you a screaming eagle. Opus One. Take it. It's sommelier pirates.

No, I'm confused By the, like, 12, 15 days ago, nobody cared, and now everybody's mad at Somalians. They had their own country. Their ideas were so bad in that country, it didn't work. So if they came over with their ideas here and win us over, aren't we the gullible ones?

Tim Walsh, man, I've never once heard the phrase in America. You know, that group of soma, great idea, politically. They brought a lot of their ideas over, and I think we should start leaning into it. No, I'm not really worried about the Somali takeover. I know. I know you're gonna bark at me about government funding and all this other stuff.

A lot of stuff goes to bad places. When the news tells you to hate somebody, you do it. Somalians.

If I see it on TV and Trump's, like, tied to a chair and you just hear, I am the captain now, then I'll worry. But until then, pretty much. And maybe 10 years from now, this whole thing will be played. And see, they weren't afraid of them. Look, there's billions of them. I don't see it happening. And I just don't think that the Cinnabon employee is a hero.

Could have handled that better.

[Byron]

She's the voice of America.

[Brett Vesely]

She's not. Let's just make that clear. She's not representative of all of our feelings towards Somalian people. Who want a delicious, sticky. Bunch of those people haven't eaten since, like, 97. Sally Struthers used to throw food at them and they wouldn't eat it. They got Cinnabon. Now they're gonna celebrate that. And they might get a little cocky about it. They're thinking about all the people back home who haven't ever had a Cinnabon. They might be pretty, maybe almost intolerable.

But you can't go calling people the N word at work, no matter how mad you are.

[Byron]

It never works.

[Brett Vesely]

It doesn't work. You can't defend it because it never works. Well, it should, but it doesn't. Same argument when people used to walk around with pot when it was illegal, and go, it should be legal. And they're getting handcuffed. This is stupid. Like, yeah, but it is illegal. And you know that. You're right. It is stupid, but it is illegal.

Surprised at how many People hate Somalians. On the emails today. I didn't realize we were doing that. I got to get on board. I got to start getting in touch with stuff. I didn't know we hated Somalians like this, but we do. Yuck. Sorry, Somali guy. Who's here?

And how bad is Somalia that Minnesota's a better option. Here's what I hope our headquarters are in Minnesota, and I hope those Somalians get real hungry and eat all of Hubbard broadcasting's leaders.

Just chow down on every one of the bobs. They just kick that door open. We are in charge of radio now. Oh, geez, I hope they don't get my oh, no programming.

I am the programmer now. Yeah, I hope they eat all the bobs. Oh, can we pray to Brady's God again? Oh, dearest Brady's God. Can the Somalian overflow of Minnesota please eat our headquarters and all the Bobs and all the owners and all the people, please. Bobs get eaten by the Somalians of Minnesota. Please, Lord. Brady, I don't know what ulcer boys would do at this point. Is there something you should say? Ha ha ha ha.

[Byron]

Here's a snickers and a coke.

[Brett Vesely]

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[Byron]

This past Friday, President Trump announced.

The real football.

Soccer should be called football.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah. He wants to change the name of American football.

[Byron]

And some suggestions came in. Flying in like gridiron. Someone said pigskin.

[Brett Vesely]

We just call it pig skin Tackle.

[Byron]

Football or American football.

[Brett Vesely]

Why don't you call it American Football?

[Byron]

Trump Ball.

[Brett Vesely]

That's pretty good.

[Byron]

That one's not bad. But I kind of like this one. Hand egg or egg ball.

[Brett Vesely]

What about Ball of America?

[Byron]

They have a mariball.

[Brett Vesely]

Yes, that's not bad.

[Byron]

And then there are some other suggestions. Like kickball. Millionaire Fight Club.

Full contact Chess.

Yard ball.

[Brett Vesely]

I'm just tired of it being confused with the beautiful game. Big soccer guy. But you gotta call it that. Why don't we just call American football soccer and fix everything? Just move it over. This is soccer now. And football is football. It's soccer. Soccer fixed. Another thing, stopping wars and renaming games. I'm good.

[Byron]

Us Weekly put together and ranked the list of the best Christmas movies of all time according to their IMDb score.

[Brett Vesely]

Of all time. Yep, there's like a couple hundred.

[Byron]

One came in at 8.6.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, those. I see what you're saying. Okay, that meant 100 rotten tomatoes.

[Byron]

But number 10, love. Actually, 2003, it had a 7.5 enjoyable. Number nine, National Lampoons Christmas Vacation Fun. Number eight, the Bishop's Wife, 1947.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, that's. Damn it, that's not Betty Davis, is. It doesn't.

[Byron]

I don't know, it doesn't say White Christmas.

[Brett Vesely]

Number seven, Ben Crosby, super long. Don't show that to your kids. They'll hate you.

[Byron]

Home alone. Number six.

[Brett Vesely]

You say home alone.

[Byron]

The nightmare before Christmas. Number five, a Christmas story. Number four, miracle on 34th Street.

[Brett Vesely]

Number three, the 1947 version and not the cruddy one.

[Byron]

A Christmas Carol, 1951.

[Brett Vesely]

Number two, it's a wonderful Life. Yeah. Which is not a Christmas life. Number Not a Christmas movie. It's a movie about mental health and a deranged man with delusions of grandeur who's also suicidal and needs help. I never watched it. If you considered watch it with the way I tell you to watch it and be like, this dude's out of his mind and he thinks if he's. If he leaves the planet, it falls apart, which is called schizophrenic behavior. If you think you die and the world falls apart, you've got delusions. You're schizophrenic.

[Byron]

So that has an 8.6. And number two, A Christmas Carol. 1951 has 8.1, but people were wondering about Die Hard.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[Byron]

On IMDb the score. Die Hard is 8.2, which was at second place.

[Brett Vesely]

George Bailey's flat. Insane. I'd lasso the moon and I drag it toward you. Oh, God, he's having an episode. Nobody listens to me. I'm gonna jump off a bridge. But then he imagines a person who becomes his imaginary friend and talks him down off the bridge to show him what life would be like if he was dead and his mother's a whore. That's a fact, Brett. He goes back and finds out his mom's running a brothel. This is a Christmas movie. No, this is darker than Brokeback Mountain. George Bailey was a lunatic.

Lunatic. And he has this crazy fever dream about how the world would change if he wasn't in it and how great it is because he is. He's gonna kill someone. It's a Wonderful Life too. He's in trial for something.

[Byron]

Lindsay Wagner celebrated the 50th anniversary of the Bionic Woman.

[Brett Vesely]

God, I missed that one. That was a good one.

[Byron]

They open up a little pop up store. You get signed photos, printed copies of scripts.

[Brett Vesely]

She's just in it.

[Byron]

Yeah, she showed up and. And then she signed a bunch of.

[Brett Vesely]

Stuff that would be pretty disappointing if you saw right now in our parking lot, oh my God, a Bionic Woman pop up store. And Lindsey Wagner is going to be here. I haven't seen Lindsay Wagner since that show, so seeing her today. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want. Because that's the picture I'm thinking of.

[Byron]

Yep.

[Brett Vesely]

I don't want to see what's happened to her over the last 50 years.

[Byron]

You can have a video chat. They range from 50 to 250 bucks.

[Brett Vesely]

I guarantee every guy in line would get up there and go, hi, how are you? Thanks for coming. I'd like to talk to Lindsay Wagner. Well, that's me.

What happened? Well, I'm 79 now. Oh, yeah, I forgot. Last time I saw you were 30. Yeah, this is no good.

[Byron]

Shirley Manson from Garbage hates beach balls. She went off on a guy at a concert the other day because he's having beach ball, having fun, you know, batting them around. And she just obliterated this dude.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah, verbally.

[Byron]

Told fans to. Basically, it was a. A hit.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah. She told him to kill the guy.

[Byron]

Punch him in his face.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah. She told him to kill the guy right now. Who loved beach balls. And then they show a clip of the concert before she got mad. Everybody's got inflatables. It looks fun. Speech balls floating around. There's a. An alligator. They're batting that around. And then Shirley Manson from Garbage, remember them, gets upset and starts telling them knock it off, like they're the Rolling Stones or something. And then one guy screams, violence is not the answer, Shirley. And then the video ends. It's pretty great. Garbage can't be mad that they have a crowd. Just go to the show and just like, jesus, a lot of people here.

[Byron]

She kind of walked it back. The next show said, I apologize if I got.

[Brett Vesely]

But you know about the beach ball thing.

[Byron]

Yeah. And then they booed her too.

Francis. Exactly. And then doubled down on the beach balls. It was like crazy.

[Brett Vesely]

Get to stupid girl and get off the stage. Yeah. I'm only happy when it rains. Okay, you're done. We're out a couple of great ones. Yeah, the bush big ones. He's in that, man. Get those out of the way and then get off for the. I'm sure the headliners thrilled at the openers. Yelling at the crowd.

That's it for us. We're all done. Larry's coming up next to tell you about k Pop Demon hunter weekend.

We're all a little uncomfortable with Larry's weekend. Yeah, here he comes. Larry's next and he's gonna have more info for you guys to get the KUPD concert pass. Plus plenty of other stuff Larry gives you. He's nice. Be nice back and you'll feel the rewards in your pockets. And with that finger thing he does, it's 10:08. We're done. You guys have a great one. We'll see you tomorrow on the Morning sickness. Hello. It's not weird. It's pretty cool, actually.

[Byron]

No membership fees.

[Brett Vesely]

I have heard enough of this.

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