Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness – 12-10-25

Episode Title: Emailer Says Her BF Loves To Sniff Her Panties And Asks If All Guys Do – We Wonder If John's Vagina Journal Girl Liked His Smell And If Our Exes Remember Ours
Date: December 10, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo, Chris (occasional guest)

Episode Overview

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness is a classic blend of crude humor, offbeat honesty, and uncomfortable truths. The central theme revolves around an email from a listener, Natalie, whose boyfriend has a strong fetish for smelling her used underwear. She wonders if this is normal male behavior, prompting the hosts to discuss panty sniffing, male and female kinks, and some hilariously awkward personal anecdotes about exes, memories attached to scents, and youthful indiscretions. The conversation quickly sprawls into side topics about relationships, odd frat rituals, plagiarism in love letters, and the sometimes ugly reality of underwear.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Panty Sniffing Email From Natalie (03:03–13:20)

• Natalie’s Dilemma:
  Natalie writes in, sharing that her boyfriend insists on sniffing her panties after work every night and even requests she avoid perfumed soaps. She asks, “Is this normal?”

  • “He asked me not to use any fragrant soaps down there. Just water. And I'm grossed out by it. But he gets off on it, so I let him. He says it's normal that all guys do it. And I just can't believe that's true.” (03:14, Natalie email, read by Brett)

• The Crew’s Response:
  None of the hosts own up to that particular kink, and they quickly label it as odd to outright creepy, especially with the demand for “all natural musk.”

  • “No. Out.” (03:53, John Holmberg)—unanimous rejection.
  • “Natalie's gonna be single later today.” (06:37, John Holmberg)
  • The consensus is that while some kinks are normal within boundaries, this persistent fixation is a red flag.

• Humor About Underwear:
  The guys gleefully riff on the ‘ick’ aspects of underwear, joking about the gross realities that neither gender wants to admit and painting vivid pictures:

  • “Like underwear is grow. I peel those off like they're nuclear. You got the big gloves on and everything.” (06:47, Brett)
  • “It's a P catch all. Yeah. And for a lady, it's a God knows what catch all.” (07:20, Don & Brett)

2. Kinks, Fetishes, and Uncomfortable Anecdotes (13:20–19:56)

• Comparison to Male Underwear:
  The guys note that men's underwear is no better, often equally (or more) disgusting, and question the appeal from the other side.

• Audience Contributions:

  • A listener claims, "I sniff panties, but it's unintentional because they're right at my eye level," referencing his own short stature (09:04, Scott Haynes).
  • Another listener, Bailey, shares his love of natural scent—“I prefer it off my hand or straight from the tap. Not necessarily off of panties.”* (13:24, Bailey email).

• The Line Between Kink and Creepy:
  The crew asserts that most otherwise “healthy” people don't obsess over underwear, and the behavior signals something amiss.

  • “If you're a constant sniffer, then you've got something really wrong.” (14:28, Brett)

3. College Stories & Panty Raids (14:40–16:51; 20:46–21:12)

• Fraternity Tales:
  The hosts recall frat traditions around collecting and displaying panties, awarding members for sleeping with “the biggest girl,” and even stealing IDs for proof (14:48–15:41).

  • “Panty raids were also... That was for dudes who couldn't get laid.” (21:03, Brett)

• Distinction:
  They distinguish between “panty raiding” (mostly as a juvenile prank) and actively sniffing, which they find much more disturbing.

4. Smell, Memory, and Exes (25:49–33:59)

• Scents and Sentimentality:
  John and the group discuss how certain scents, especially on clothing (like ex-girlfriends’ coats), can trigger powerful memories.

  • “I was pretty into that coat. I was going through a lot, though. She broke up. I had no job. Right. I had just gotten fired. I had no job. I was going to radio school. Oh, I was not in a good place.” (31:04, John)

• Tales of Relationship Regret:
  Discussions about plagiarized love letters (Bryan Adams lyrics being passed off as original), “vagina journals,” and cringe-inducing breakups bring levity and pathos.

  • “She wrote the whole [Bryan Adams] song. She skipped double chorus. Like she didn’t double down on them.” (27:30, Brett)
  • “I did some damage to that thing [her coat]. And then I’d hang it back up in the closet and, oh, yeah, there were tears. It was a devastated mess for no reason.” (25:49, Brett)

5. The Darker Side – When to Break Up (22:19–23:52)

• Advice for Natalie:
  The hosts urge her not to ignore her “gut feeling,” emphasizing that she wrote to them because she knows something is wrong.
  • “Natalie needs to break up with this guy completely and tell her boyfriend as she's breaking off with him, that she believes, to quote Carl Atkinson, he's looking for a little Punjabi punani.” (22:19, Brett reads listener)
  • “Natalie knew what she was emailing wasn't right. That's why she emailed. Her brain's been screaming. Ah, but she can't face it.” (23:40, Brett)

6. Side Stories, Humor, and Gross-Outs (Throughout)

• Panty Sniffing and Cultural Stereotypes (12:40, Brett):
  • “Maybe this guy's from India and he's just homesick. Yeah, that's true. Is your boyfriend a homesick Indian? Don't ever wash that thing down there. I don't like when the shower water touches and knocks off all of the delicious stinks.”
• Outrageous listener anecdotes—e.g., “my ex-wife's underwear looked like a Jackson Pollock after an innocent weekend” (17:41, listener email read by Brett).
• “Panty Raiders” referenced in old TV/college tropes, pointing out it's mostly a TV-myth with low maturity (21:02, Brett and group).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “No. Out.” (03:53, John Holmberg) – The crew’s unequivocal verdict on panty-sniffing.
• “If you're a constant sniffer, then you've got something really wrong. But thanks for sharing. I'm going to throw up now.” (14:28, Brett)
• “Like underwear is grow. I peel those off like they're nuclear.” (06:47, Brett)
• “Most fetishes come with an uncle's thumb attached.” (10:48, Brett) – Dark but characteristic HMS humor.
• “Natalie knew what she was emailing wasn't right. That's why she emailed. Her brain's been screaming. Ah, but she can't face it.” (23:40, Brett)
• “She wrote the whole song. She skipped double chorus. Like she didn't double down on them.” (27:30, Brett, about his ex’s plagiarized Bryan Adams letter)
• “Do you think that people are looking at the same sky?” (33:57, Brett recalls ex’s deep — and plagiarized — ponderings)
• “I wish I had that notebook.” (27:24, John & Brett; on the lost ‘vagina journal’ poetry)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Natalie’s Email and Panty Discussion: 03:03–13:13
• Listener Emails/Kinks: 13:24–14:28
• Fraternity Panty Stories & Raids: 14:48–16:51
• Exes and Scents, Plagiarized Letters: 25:49–33:59
• Why Natalie Needs to Break Up: 22:19–23:52
• Gross/Comic Listener Emails: Scattered throughout (09:04, 17:41, others)

Tone & Style

As usual, the podcast is irreverent, direct, and filled with over-the-top analogies and gallows humor. The conversation is a mix of open-mindedness about sexuality, a healthy dose of "that's not for me," and comedic exaggeration. No topic is off-limit, but the hosts make clear distinctions between personal boundaries and outright red flags.

Final Thoughts

The episode leans hard into the humor and gross-out factor, but also dishes out practical advice: Natalie, and anyone in her shoes, is urged to listen to their gut when something feels off. While kinks are normal, persistent, specific fixations—especially when they intrude on comfort and hygiene—are best addressed honestly or avoided altogether.

The hosts use this awkward question as a springboard for jokes, brutal honesty, and revisiting their own embarrassing relationship histories — all while maintaining the signature snark and camaraderie that defines Holmberg’s Morning Sickness.