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Brett Vesely
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Brett Vesely
Okay, but what if he lives out of state?
Byron
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John
Really?
Byron
That simple?
Brett Vesely
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John
98Kupd.Com Good morning, everybody. Hello there. Welcome to Tuesday. It's Tripp's birthday today. That's right.
Brett Vesely
All right. Strippers coming down or what?
John
What do you get the centurion who has everything?
Brett Vesely
Strippers and blow.
John
That's it. Hookers and blow. That's what we're going to do for them today. They'll be arriving at noon. My name's John. There's Brady. There's Brett. There's Big Dick Toledo. Let's get this thing together, shall we, Brett? Just when I thought it was out.
Jeff
Pull me back in.
John
Stupid Steelers. Played a great game last night and I don't know what you know. Measured wins because I don't know what to. A tongue of a law.
Brady
Yes.
John
I don't know what he is. But he's like, look, they've been playing great the last few. They scored 13 average 13 points against for the last four weeks. The Dolphins were playing good. Two was playing all right. He's not managing things well enough. They're running. Last night couldn't do anything. And that was when the Steelers didn't have their best player. I don't know what this season is. I can't. I don't know what this season is at all. I'm trying, man. You still alive? Oh, yeah, very much so. I can't remember the under over on last night's game, but I think it was 43 or 44. And then the Dolphins tack on two crap touchdowns at the end, make it 28:15, and you're like, how do they do that? How do they do that?
Brady
It was.
John
It's crazy. It's just flat out nuts. But, yeah. So football's back. And my life got good news, too. Joe Burrow's gonna finish out the Bengals. Really should be pleased that you guys are going to be the 9 pick with 4 wins and somehow another still, there's 8 teams worse than you in a terrible season. Well, good for the Bengals. And Joe Burrow might retire, which is even better. Which I to be the most bengly Bengal thing ever. The Bengals, they're. They're. If it weren't for the Browns, we'd be the Browns. They're. They're derivative of the Browns and they suck just as much. Proving once again my theory that a terrible, terrible franchise will spike for a couple of years and then go right back to sucking because it's in their nature. And that's what the Bengals are. They had that year, like, oh, they might be around for a minute. No, they can't. They're the Bengals. They're the Cardinals of Ohio.
Brady
What would you rather have spike for.
John
A couple of years if you got a championship out of it? Maybe 30 years. Once you go, that's what you're going to have again. So you had your spike, and then. I hate to break it to you, but you're not going to make it to see a Bengals championship. Well, he's not going to live to be 100. I'll never see one either. I might live to be 90. I don't want to. That's my curse. But that would be. My curse would be on my 90th birthday. I'm like, I don't want to be here. And then that year, the Bengals win the world. You're going to watch this, too. What A joke. Even though I saw a thing last night where Elon Musk basically said, there's going to be no need for any of us anymore. AI is taking over, which we already know. And he goes, but it's. In the next 20 years, there'll be no need for money, There'll be no need for anything. Nobody will have to do anything. I will do everything as it's advancing. He said, you know, from 0% to being able to do about 30% of the jobs as it is. He said, robots are on the way. And the guy asked him, I was like, well, why do you want this? And he goes, oh, I don't. He goes, but you can't stop it. So you just kind of see the writing on the wall. If you're smart enough, you'll see it and you'll be like, all right, well, here we go. And he goes, why would there be no need for money? Goes, why would there be need for money in the future? And I'm like, I'm not understanding any of this. And he said, just because I predict it doesn't mean I want it. But I'm just telling you, I'm watching that. He's. And then you're like, but you kind of are in charge of it in a weird way. You invented one of the kids.
Brady
I would have never done it.
John
Turn it off. Nope.
Brady
So maybe in the future the companies that will be like the tree huggers will be a non robot company.
John
Yeah, yeah, you're going to hear that. And yeah, human only. And then, and then the wars begin. We've all seen sci fi when the humans are like, we won't deal with those robots. And then they try to fight them. And Don Quixote's just get slaughtered last, last night they showed if AI was smart enough now to beat hackers into a, into a system that had two flaws they had written into the computer thing. The hackers found it in a day. AI found it in six seconds and could and could hack an entire colleges, all of it. And all they said was, do you think you could find this? And go, sure. And then six seconds later she goes, you got a breach here, you got a breach here. You got a breach here. I can get through all of it. And it did. And the hackers were like, it took some time. Like, oh, I see very intricate, detailed kind of security systems with tiny little moments. And then they put it on another college that they were like, does this have any breaches? And it came back immediately. 34. If 34 open. Yeah. Hackers can get all of them from 34.
Brett Vesely
That's going to be a battle of.
John
Oh, my God.
Brett Vesely
Of AI hackers. AI against.
John
Yeah, well, yeah, guys, quote unquote, right.
Brady
Now, humans are getting one over on AI on the Wiz. Apparently. The thing I sent you.
John
Oh, yeah. Oh, this is a good one. Yeah, the. Well, this is brilliant. Brady handed me this this morning. If you've got a kid for Christmas, the gift this year that screams I love you is the Wiz app. It's for 13 year old kids. Age appropriate engagement. And I don't even. My first reaction was what can go wrong here? Placing unattended 13 year olds in an Internet chat room and say, you guys should meet up for playdates. Who's going to crash that party? It's. You can swipe left or right on friends like Tinder or Bumble or Grindr. For 13 year olds.
Brett Vesely
That's creepy.
John
Yeah, it says. Yeah. And you know, I don't know that anybody. The guy who invented that when he hit enter the last time and said it's done. Didn't once think pedophiles are going to use this most. He didn't.
Brett Vesely
Jared's been staying busy in jail, you know, learned procedure.
Brady
It was a French company that came up.
John
Well, the French have been for ages trying to make the league of or the age of consent, like 12 and 13. So, yeah, if you're thinking like, you know, you got a 13 year old boy, he's not really social. He doesn't have a lot of friends. Like, I'd like for him to have friends. That localizes because Grindr will find a buddy within a. It'll tell you how far away he is. So now it pinpoints locations of 13 year olds. Of course, for other 13 year olds, no bad guy's ever going to get involved in that. Find your 13 year old standing in a park going, I have ice cream. Look for me, I'm the one with ice cream. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, me too.
Todd
My name's Todd.
John
I'll meet you at the park.
Todd
Is your mom around? No, mom says it's okay to meet up. Cause Whiz says that's a good idea. Right? Okay. Hey, I'm gonna take a whiz in your mouth.
John
What?
Brady
Where you going, honey? Got a whiz date.
Todd
My little fella's got a whiz date. He always comes back with bruises. Kids can be so rambunctious.
John
No need to watch. Because they say that the app is claiming it has ironclad policies to Stop this. Although the first person that they caught on day one was 19. I love those little children so much.
Brady
Meeting up with an 11 year old.
John
He posed as a 15 year old. Now he's trying to find an 11 year old to be friends with. Then a 23 year old jumped out. How do predators know this app is brand new? And they're like, what, what? And they get on the first day I'm getting on that app, it's like they don't even like sneak around in the bushes for a second. On the Internet, there's like, there's an app for kids. Okay, you put my name in.
Jeff
Let's see.
John
Six grader ace, six, nine, exclamation point. Yeah. 23 year old got on to, pretended to be 14. You know what? I would hope. This is my hope for. This is my hope for all this stuff. For whiz. Let's say predators like trying to. I hope for this. Predators on the wiz. And he's. He's easing on down the road and he's trying to find himself a young boy. And yeah, he's on the wiz and he's easing on down the road. And then he goes to the park and he's pretending and he's hiding in a bush waiting to see the boy. And then the bush starts to rattle. Another guy's in there. Hey, what are you doing here? He's like, ah, waiting for a kid named Carl. Said, ah, crap, I'm Carl. And the two of them. The two of them become friends. Yes. Ah, you got. You got me. It's that Chomo's meet up. Yeah, Chomo's accent, they just have a good laugh. I was gonna rape a kid and Carl. That's hilarious. You're gonna rape me? We thought you're 13. Yeah, I thought you were 13. You guys want to go grab a beer?
Brady
Well, they already got them. I got beer and cookies.
John
Yeah, it's in the car if you want. I got to. I got some chips ahoy.
Brady
Me too.
John
And Schaefers, if you want to get in the car. Oh, I got loads of that in the cooler. Oh, my God. We brought the same stuff. Well, we talked about it. I really thought we were gonna today and you were like 11, but we're about 26.
Brett Vesely
Sounds like a Seinfeld episode.
John
It'd be great, but just if they. Especially if they chose the same bush that rustling.
Todd
Hey, hey, hey.
John
This bush is taken. Yeah, yeah, don't worry about it. How you doing?
Jeff
My name's Jeff. I'm here Rape a kid named Trevor. Oh, geez.
John
Really? Yeah, yeah, I'm Trevor, man. Wait a minute. I was gonna rape you. You got my. Your peanut butter, my chocolate.
Brett Vesely
Oh.
John
Wouldn'T that be funny?
Brady
Yeah.
John
Two rapists, like, ah. And then you're like. And then they start a lifelong friendship. Go get them, whiz. That's the world we live in. So I'm gonna laugh at it because I don't find it to be awful when people do this, invent this kind of stuff. When my friend Brady hand me the story and I'm like, well, yeah, predators are gonna rape kids on, like, if no one saw this. And then it still got, like, thumbs up approvals. And there is some, you know, lonely single mother who looks at her lame, you know, string bean kid with no friends and goes, he needs buddies.
Todd
The Internet can help.
John
The Internet is not your friend at all.
Brady
Won't have to post that picture of him alone at his pizza party.
John
I like those two, though. I like when loser kids get exposed by their parents.
Todd
He's only got one friend and he lives in Texas.
John
It's online.
Todd
And he wants to be a dermatologist. So my son sends him pictures of his skin.
John
Well, that's a. That's a predator, Mom.
Todd
No, no, no. He sends pictures and we send him money.
John
Yeah, keep that up. It's amazing what AI and the Internet does. I. Yesterday after the show, I, I read Donald Trump's incredibly inappropriate tweet about Rob Reiner at the end of the show. And I had a couple people email me and go, that wasn't him, that.
Jeff
Was an AI app.
John
And I can't believe, actually somebody wrote that. It says, I can't believe you read that on the air as if it was real. And then another guy's like, do you realize that you just read an AI? You're spreading the false. And then Trump went on TV and doubled down and said, I never liked Rob Reiner. It was. And I, I respect that part of it, but it's completely classless to say what he said before about a man who's just been murdered.
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John
On the heels of them getting so mad at everybody on the Charlie Kirk thing, you know, and Charlie Kirk got murdered. Anybody who said anything bad about it was immediately admonished and vilified and should be. And it was wrong to do it then, and it's wrong. But then he's like, oh, you should never let political divides, you know, get in the way of, like, a true tragedy. And what happened to Charlie Kirk was awful. And everybody was all, oh, blah, blah, but I can't say anything bad. And he was right. And then, boom, turns right around, does it again for Rob Reiner. He does the exact same horrible thing. And then people are yelling at me.
Jeff
It's like, you don't know what you're doing.
John
You're just gonna spread all this misinformation. Like, all right. And actually, yesterday, as I looked at those emails, I thought to myself, maybe they were. Maybe they're all right. Because I did react. I didn't look into it. Who does? I reacted. Right. And then later find he actually not only did it and he was proud of it. Like, really proud of it.
Brady
Went in depth on the reason why.
John
He'S always been he's a dick is essentially what he said in his synopsis. I thought he was a dick. I mean, that's enough to really not care. I don't care. And he did that and backpedal. Yeah, he didn't. I mean, I. I kind of respect that part, but I don't. I mean, that was a dick move. It's terrible, and it's classless and. And that. It's. You know, I emailed back one of the guys. You know, it's okay to. To disagree or not like something your guy did. He's not keeping tabs on whether or not you were a 100 percenter. He's not. He doesn't care, like, about you. So if he does something and you don't like it, you can say that was classless and still like him. But, man, that one. I don't know how you defend that one. That was bad.
Brady
It's tough curveball.
John
Oh, and a curveball. It was a bean ball at somebody's while he was in the batter's box. Like, they hadn't even said go yet. And the pitcher just hucks one into your head. It's like, man, it's like Nolan Ryan.
Byron
Yeah.
Brett Vesely
Coming after you.
John
Yeah, it was. Yeah. It just gotta get charging a Dude, for no reason.
Brett Vesely
It's Nolan Ryan, Robin Ventura right there.
John
And Robin knew about three steps in. I should not be doing this. But, yeah, I mean, I got emails from people, so. And then I just started to wonder, what are we? What kind of future are we heading towards where you can just use AI as a defense constantly for everything, Even people that aren't you. Like, you just. You wish it away. Like, I just wish he hadn't done that. And I'm a fan of his, so that didn't happen. And then when he goes on TV and says, no, I did that, and people are still like, well, it didn't happen. The way I know. It's still not. It's still fine. Like, you can sit back and go, that one's wrong. You can love someone and say they were completely wrong. You can be a person who does something completely wrong and say, I was completely wrong. The power of saying, geez, that was wrong is incredible. It's amazing. But, yeah, I was like, back and forth on emails with dudes about this and kind of like, I don't want to. You still can like him. You don't. And that's the other thing. I can sit back and go, oh, boy, that sucked. I didn't like that at all. And it doesn't make us enemies just because you disagree that we can't do that anymore.
Brady
You can also. I mean, there's also repercussions on that. He lost some people yesterday.
John
You'd think so, but I don't. I don't know that he loses. Because then Kamala comes out and does something. You're like, oh, geez, I'd rather have the Reiner hater. Like, sometimes when she talks like this. This could have somehow or another been actually a lot worse. I don't know. That's bad. But she's. Yeah, he. That was just a classless move. And if you call it classy or you say, oh, no, you defend that, you're just defending your dude and you don't care what he says. It doesn't really matter. Don't yell at me. I can think. It's classless. This dude's yelling at me and telling me that it was AI. That I don't know what I'm talking about. Like, all right. Typical libcuff. And I did. I did. You know what? It got me because I. I thought.
Brady
About that when it first came out. Tell me.
John
Well, because it's like, so tell me that's AI or someone got so bad. You're rooting for it to be AI, please don't let that be our leader. Don't let. This is a. Just don't let's let that one. Let that one be a goof. And then everybody go, hey, I never said that. But no, they got a mic and so what? Are you gonna want to double down on that? Of course I do. That goes an asshole. I didn't like him. I didn't like him with and without a head. I still don't like him.
Brady
But you're right, it's no difference. Not much, other than being the president, which is the top.
Jeff
Yeah, you're not supposed to do that.
Brady
Then the Charlie Kirk stuff.
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John
No celebrities. Look, none of it's good. When you take something tragic and horrific and violent and say, oh, I had a personal beef with him, that's terrible. And you can even say, I did not like him. But this is awful. I mean, I've got people hate.
Brady
But if that happened with Rob Reiner about the Charlie Kirk thing. Yeah, he's like horrific.
John
Yeah, yeah.
Brady
I can differ with someone politically.
John
Right.
Brady
But not to the point where you.
John
Go out for that. Yeah, yeah. We need to talk about positive stuff. You know, the good things. Like yesterday, my new favorite sport, I love football. I built a room onto my house that is a bar just for football viewing. But I'm going to change that. It's going to be for darts now because what I saw on news clips last night on BBC America was the most amazing thing I've ever watched in my life. There is a dark championship going on right now and I never heard of anything called an alley pali wasp. I don't know what an alley pali wasp is and I'm assuming none of you do either. An alley pali wasp is a wasp and it was hanging around the dark championships indoors and they're evidently kind of mean wasps. And one of the dudes throwing had the alley pali on his shoulder, didn't budge. One of the dudes getting interviewed after a dart match had the alley pally wasp on his chest, flicked it off and he goes, bye. And everybody laughed. One of the dudes playing darts got sick of the alley pally wasp, took it out with a dart in mid flight.
Brady
Come on.
Brett Vesely
Was it Mr. Miyagi over there or what?
John
Was it the guy with no, he's like, he looks almost Samoan. Just rears back and does one of those dart moves and he's throwing his dart for the game. He wasn't aiming at the wasp. The wasp goes by and he just goes. Finishes him that's how good those guys are at darts. He hit a moving bug and it's. I forgot his name.
Brady
So it was about three years ago on New Year's Day. I'm up at 6:30 in the morning and it's the BBC Dart World Championships. Those guys are unbelievable.
John
Like, you ever try to play 520 in darts? You basically are counting down from 520.
Brady
Yeah.
John
Doubles in, doubles out. And you're playing a good.
Brady
He needs a triple 17.
John
Got it. Games last, like, five throws. Got it. The next guy goes, and they're tied. And it's. Everybody's scoring, like, everything you need. And I'm like, these guys are crushing. Every throw is perfect. Triple. Yeah, Triple two. He's out. Like, my God. And they do this dude hit a wasp. Throw a rock that's the size of your head and try to hit a. You can't do it. You ever. You ever see people smack a fly? We look like retards. We're running around smacking their hands together. And flies like me. There's a mosquito that lives in my house and has for like two months. It's the size of an eagle now. It's been sucking on me for its entirety of the fall.
Brady
You can hear.
John
I hear him. Yeah. He talks. Turn it. Like, what? Turn the channel. I don't want to watch this. Like, who is it? It's the mosquito. And filled with your blood and more you than you. I, I. And he'll fly by him, like, there he is. I look like a guy with a net chasing a butterfly. And then a few seconds later, I look at my hands too. Did I get it? There's no.
Brady
Fingers are sealed together like it's not getting away.
John
And then you hear him like, yeah, yeah. I've had the audacity to reach into the air and, like, snatch at the air. And I'm like, I got him. And then open my empty hand. And then I just hear, there he goes. That's. There he goes. He's still in the house. Piece of garbage. This dude took a wasp out with a dart. The wasp hadn't landed.
Brady
An alley pally wasp.
John
I don't know what that is, but they kept it. Wasp. An alley. Pali was. And I'm like, an alley. I thought that was a moving darts.
Jeff
Unlucky is an alley. Pali, who'd been infiltrating in the darts, had moved forward.
John
This didn't like, wow, that's neat. And it was on this guy's shoulder. And one of the dudes was throwing and had it on his neck. This thing was just hanging around for a couple of days. They assumed it was the same alley pally. And he's on his neck.
Jeff
Bullseye, he's out. Nice job with an alley pally on his neck.
Brady
I've seen him go a couple of rounds where all they need. They need a bullseye to win it. And three times in a row, it's in the bowl area. Yeah, that's how close. Every time.
John
If you. If you. If they miss, it's like. It's shocking. Yeah, like when they're like, oh, he missed it.
Jeff
Doors wide open for his mate.
John
And then a guy goes up and he missed like three and hits. He hits the dart with the dart. I, for a while there, was pretty good at darts and ran into an Irishman. I felt pretty good about myself. I was at a bar over on Alma School and some I forgot. I'm like, I'm playing good. I'm like, hitting where I'm throwing this thing exactly where I want it, you know, Every once in a while you miss. But it was like stooges playing darts. Like, yeah, want to play for a little money? Make some. I'm like, yeah, play for beers. That's the deal. I bought this Irish dude, like, nine beers. Every time he goes, what do you want me to put it? I'm like, nine. Jesus Christ. All right, triple nine. Like, did you play professionally? Oh, no, I was never good at that. I'm never good enough. Never good enough. You. You can wish a dart where you want. What? You're a genie. Want to play for lunch? Yeah, I'll buy you lunch. It's essentially how it got. But the guy was trying to teach me. I'm throwing the exact same way as him. And he's like, you just have to, you know, he had this eye thing he was doing, and it was like, you don't. Like. You never aim with one eye closed like a gun. You're not supposed to close an eye. Really? How's it got this sounds? You get on your dominant eye. Get your dominant eye, and then you can hit the darts with other darts. That's when it gets fun. Oh, my God, he's putting darts on top of darts. This dude killed a wasp. The old Alley Polly. His name was Luke Littler, I think is the guy. Or maybe he was the one that won it. But I just remember the names Ally Pally and Luke Littler. And if you've Brady's seen me around a wasp or a bee. Gone, gone. I start running. I mean, like, top speed, Usain Bolt style. I get the hell out of there.
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John
The one guy was like, into the Ali party. I don't know why. It was so adorable. These. And they're all big kind of fat dudes. Awesome. Ali poly. There's one malnourished Irishman that's like, flink, Flink.
Jeff
He scored a 580 on that throw.
John
He's 580 points on three darts.
Brady
How their shirts are more logoed up than that.
John
And Poland are heavy with logos.
Brett Vesely
Were they wearing Mick hats while they were thrown to?
John
Yeah. Oh, well, no. I don't think they're allowed to wear Mick hats because it's in England and they get beat up anywhere but Ireland and Boston. Those are the only two places that people are like, I like your hat. And that goes for every Mick that's putting one on this morning. Just know that when you walk by and people like, you know, if you walk by and go talk in the morning to. Yeah. Everybody looks and goes, jackass and his stupid hat. Nobody likes your hat. And it just announces. You might as well assert that. Says, I drink too much and I've taken a swing at my wife. I swing on my wife, I'm going to get. And it's like, I'm a swinger. I'm an Irish swinger. And that just basically means you're a domestic abuser. You got to watch this thing. It's.
Brady
These are the guys that I watch. That bald guy I'm talking about.
John
They're all great. Yeah, But I've never seen anybody hit a. I mean, he should be like an exterminating company. Should be all over this dude's shirt. Next time, look up an alley Pally wasp. I don't even know what that looks like. But he was hanging around. You could see him them on the thing. But I never, like, got a close up of the alley pal. And they seem to act like the alley pali is actually dangerous or something. We don't have cute names for bugs like that. The Alley Pally wasp. And the thing was actually flying. They had to show it.
Brady
First thing that came up was Ali Pally hit by a wasp.
John
Hit by a dart. Not hit by a wasp.
Brady
Hit by a dart.
Brett Vesely
Yeah.
John
Ali pally's banging into each other all the time in the Alley Pally Hive. Yeah. Pretty neat. So if you're interested in watching one sport and one sport only, the sport of the future, I think. And AI can never well, yeah, it can. Those robots will be amazing. They'll be better than the Irish because they'll be perfect at darts and then sober. Yeah, and they're sober. And your wife won't have bruises. That'll happen every once in a while when she talks, when she gets bruises, when she talks. Yeah.
Todd
It seems like that's when it happens to most.
John
She starts to open her trap and the next thing you know, her face gets all bruised up. I don't remember how it happens because I'm a drunk. But yeah, so if you want to watch, it's on usually. I think it's about 3:30 in the morning on some weird show. Yes. I don't even know. The Ocho doesn't even cover. They still play Wiffle ball before darts even though the.
Brady
The BBC covers it.
John
Yeah, it's that British sports thing that pops up now and again.
Jeff
Sky Sports for Sky Sports Plus. You got Sky Sports plus tonight, Dark championships for five hours.
John
And they started at midnight. It ends like it's six in the morning.
Jeff
Six and a half hours of dark coverage.
John
And they all look a little bit like Shane Gillis with like wet hair. Even the even, like Samoan guy. I'm like, everybody is built like Shane Gillis. Just enough to be.
Jeff
All right, we're an hour. Three dart championships.
John
They should make it part of the game.
Jeff
We've played around the 5:20.
John
Watch this.
Jeff
Wonderful. And we've gone a little bit back on cricket.
John
Now.
Jeff
Kill the wasp.
John
And they just release wasps. And they're just throwing darts at wasps.
Jeff
He's killed seven wasps. The Alley palace stands no chance against those pointed demons as they chuck them into the heads of the insect.
Brady
And the crowd.
John
The crowd's insane. There was like 18,000 people there to watch dudes throw darts. And now I know why. Because I was on the edge of the couch. Get it? And I didn't know, you know? You didn't even know. Oh, it struck the alley pally and nobody. What does that mean? He struck the alley pally. It looked like a bad throw, right?
Jeff
Mid flight, an alley. Pally goes by, struck the alley pally. This can't be good for the tournament.
John
You'll need a picture of the alley pally. It's dead. Nobody killed it.
Jeff
The sharpened point, Right. So do they have brains? I don't know. But that one doesn't, I can tell you that for sure. They split him right from the thorax to the head. And I Learned that in 8th grade. Never forgot it for some reason.
John
Remember that? For some Reason we all had to bring a grasshopper to school. Did you have to do that?
Brady
No.
John
Find a grasshopper and bring it to school. Like, what the. All right. And we all did. There wasn't a kid until I didn't get one. We all got one. And then we pulled it apart. Head, thorax, and tail. That's the thorax. Why can't we just point that out on a screen?
Jeff
No, you need to know.
John
Why do I have to dismember it? You just need to know. We pulled the head out using those pins. Yep. And you had to pin it down. We had to do that, too. You get a pin and you kill it, but it's still, like, kind of crickety. Grasshoppery. And you grab its little head with tweezers and start pulling, and it comes right out just like a daisy.
Jeff
Yeah, that's the head.
John
That's right. I knew that.
Jeff
Now, what's the second part called?
John
Like, Jesus, this got dark. That's the thorax. Right. Remove the tail. Why do you hate grasshoppers so much?
Brett Vesely
Edgy class.
John
It was my fourth grade teacher, Ms. Abby Lusane in Albuquerque, New Mexico, told us all to bring a grasshopper in. And not a kid in that class missed that assignment. We all did it. Everybody had a bag or a box with a grasshopper in it. And I couldn't tell you if I even seen a grasshopper. Prior to that assignment, I lived in Albuquerque, New Mexico. I didn't even know they had them. But once they said, go find one, and I'm fourth grade, I'm like, that's gonna happen. That is going to. We scoured the planet and we all came back and pulled the heads off. And I don't even know how you get a grade for that, but we got one. You didn't have to do that. No, you just didn't do heads.
Brady
We went over. Yeah, we went over.
John
But you didn't kill something to find out for real.
Brady
They already had one.
John
Oh, they just. They just did a singular. Yeah, they just didn't want to waste people's time in Upper Arlington stealing all the grasshoppers off Scioto. Yeah, those are wealthy grasshoppers. We're going to leave those alone here. I'm going to. But why pull it apart? But I remember it.
Brady
Then we did the fetal pig.
John
Well, I had a fifth grade, dated a nursing student, and she had a fetal pig in her fridge. Yeah, it was gross, all the different parts. And I kind of get it for nursing. I don't get it for fourth and Fifth grade. Yeah.
Jeff
That's got something.
John
That's essentially where the teachers lose their minds.
Brady
Mrs. Dryden went off on that fuel pig.
John
That's what our teachers seem to really enjoy. The hacking up of a thing. But started with grasshoppers and then frog. We had a frog. And I claimed some sort of religious. I wasn't doing that. I'm like, I'm not gonna be part. And then you could watch if you wanted or go stand in the hall. And I stood in the hall. I'm. I didn't care to put some salt on it. Why did we. Why did we kill frogs?
Brady
The leg is removed. It'll move.
John
They don't do that anymore. They just show a video. I'm sure. But we had videotaped when I was in school. They could have videotaped one frog getting cut up and shown it to us. I didn't want to do it.
Brett Vesely
Yeah.
Brady
I wonder if they. It is.
John
There's no way they're still doing that. That's just weird. I'm not even say it's cruel. It's just weird. And where do you stop that? Like, frogs are okay. It's like. Well, like, what about this squirrel? Now they're kind of cute. We're not gonna do those.
Brady
I think my brother or sister. They had a cat too.
John
They killed a cat.
Brady
Didn't kill it.
John
But really did. Stayed alive.
Brady
No, it was dead cat.
Todd
Yeah.
John
Somebody had to kill it. Somebody killed it. Somebody killed a cat, brought it to school. And then the teachers are like, I got an idea. I can show him what guts look like. And did.
Brett Vesely
Upper Arlington. Wasn't gonna deal with frogs. They went a little upscale on that one.
Jeff
Nobody has any frogs here. There's no pestilence.
John
Let's get a cat.
Jeff
I've seen plenty of those.
Brady
He brought our cat to class.
John
Yeah.
Jeff
That'S right, kids. I've flown all the way from the UK to dismember this feline species. Would you like to watch me do it?
Todd
I don't think that's a good idea, sir. Have you met Olive? She's my show and tell, Negro.
Jeff
Yes, Brady. You've brought Olive six times this week.
John
I know.
Todd
She comes back after extra credit. She'll kill your cat. Olive, where you're from, do you have to eat cats?
John
I'm from Cleveland, Brady. Oh. Mysteries of Cleveland.
Brady
Same question.
John
Yeah, I don't know where that came from or why we had to be taught that. And I'm pretty sure that stopped somewhere along the way. But I killed a grasshopper. Stood in the hallway for a frog. I never did the cat.
Brady
Brett.
John
Butcher Brett Killed a cow at school once. That's not normal. Kind of. What the hell was going on?
Brady
Good skill to learn.
Brett Vesely
Butcher class. What are you gonna do?
John
Butcher class shouldn't exist.
Brett Vesely
Well, how do you get butchers then?
John
Butcher school.
Brett Vesely
That's what it was.
Todd
It was a high school.
John
You were at Gilbert? Yeah. No, you don't. There should be no blood at the high school. That's a rule. I have. No. Jesus. Two rules I have about my high school. Can't be a cow that isn't gonna make it and can't be blood everywhere. You can't have that. Can't do it.
Brady
It wasn't bloody, was it?
John
What? It was. How was it not bloody?
Brady
Well, I thought they just bring in the.
John
No, they came in alive. No, they came in live. Killed it. He killed it.
Brady
I didn't.
John
You were in the room taking notes.
Brett Vesely
The teacher did it.
John
Wrote it. The teacher did it.
Brett Vesely
Yeah, we weren't allowed to kill the cow. Yeah. We weren't allowed to do the initial.
John
All right.
Brett Vesely
Killing.
John
Now, you guys don't do as I do. Do as I say. Now, I'm gonna slice the throat of this cow. And if I catch any of you guys trying.
Brady
It was a slice. It wasn't the no country for Old Men.
Brett Vesely
Well, no, you hit it with. You hit it with the knocker.
John
Yep.
Brett Vesely
You open the door and you strike it up. And then. And then you.
Brady
You guys bleed it out.
John
So you guys did. Brought him in live and he just stood there and you guys watched him.
Brett Vesely
Well, then you process it afterwards, too.
John
Jesus Christ. And then you go to peace.
Brett Vesely
Yeah.
John
Wait a minute. It was the middle of the day. It wasn't like after school, I think mine.
Brett Vesely
Well, there was. There was. It wasn't just one class. There was different hours.
John
Everybody killed a cow.
Brett Vesely
Lunch. Everybody.
John
Of course it was. They needed to. Was. It immediately changed. Sometimes.
Brett Vesely
Yeah.
Brady
Cape.
John
It literally farm to table. That's too much, man. Gilbert High School. Do you think they still slaughter a cow? I don't know.
Brett Vesely
I don't know if Gilbert still does.
John
I've told this.
Brett Vesely
I mean, I was 90, you know, it was in 90, so. I mean, I know Gilbert's a lot different than it once was.
Brady
Early 2000s, it was a kid was raising a pig. Ronnie's cousin.
John
Yeah, but that's 4H or something. That's not a class. That's a choice. That's like farm people. You take a class and, like, you're sitting There going, oh, how to feed a cow and you know, where to keep a cow and what to do when he's in the barn and then go slaughter it in person. That's just show a video.
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John
And I could have used a video in my agriculture class in 8th grade when my teacher jerked a horse off in front of us for artificial insemination day. That was just weird. I will admit. It was a after. I think it was after school, we just went out there, and there was.
Brady
A male still carry around that leather sleeve.
John
Dude, that was the biggest thing I've ever seen in my life. And my teacher worked it right into a bag. I had that stallion. This is some mare sitting in there all tied up in this weird box. She's losing her mind. And this male horse just started coming out.
Jeff
Thing just got huge.
John
And my teacher had, like, Parkinson's, so she was already a little shaky. Just grabbed that thing with two big yellow gloves and started stroking. And she was coated in gel. And this horse was loving it. Had a bag attached to the end of his wang. And he filled that thing up. And within a few seconds, some other dude with another glove on poured that bag into the girl horse. He reached way in there, too. And I'm like, I didn't even have pubes yet. I'm looking at that wing and going, dear God, I don't stand a chance in this world. I'm carrying a peanut.
Brady
And that's when my sister dropped out.
John
Of veterinarian school when she had to jerk off a horse.
Brady
Well, she watched the. She watched it happen.
John
Artificial insemination. Yeah, it's weird. In eighth grade, it's real weird. If I was in vet school, I'd expect some animal stuff.
Brady
Yeah.
Brett Vesely
This guy said, dobson currently dissects baby sharks.
Brady
How?
Todd
I don't know.
John
It's like black market stuff. How do you even get that? Go Mustangs. Mustang pride. They cut up baby sharks.
Brett Vesely
Yeah.
John
And I'm sure the teacher's like, shark, baby shark. All right, today we're gonna hack up a sea life creature before it gets us. Anyway, here's what you'll never need in life. How to dissect a shark. Follow me. It doesn't make any sense why we do it. I've never understood it. This guy says, we dissected piglets my freshman year at Hamilton, and that was in 2000. Kelly Turley says, was the horse your teacher jerked off bigger than Sam Cassell? Yes, but it was close. It was much close. I'm not kidding when I say it was closer than you think. Sam Cassell, he needed both hands from shaft to tip two. I mean she was talking to us like it was nothing.
Todd
You stimulate the animal with just please.
John
Stop jerking that horse off. Just. You should have done this before we got here and told us about it. We didn't have to see it, did we? Horses losing it. And I was like, this is. And I guarantee you like Linkus or somebody standing with me was hard as a rock. I don't remember if Todd was there, but somebody was turned on by that. And it was all the girls that wore. There was nobody hot in that class. All the girls that wore those, even in summer, long sleeve button up shirts with the arrow pockets like they were cowgirls. Gilbert was probably loaded with those, those wrangler jeans. S Kicker girls, those Rockies jeans. Yeah, they wore flat ass and like too tight.
Brett Vesely
Yep. At that time they were. Yeah.
John
You wore boots to school and they were just odd. And I was the only one that seemed like this shouldn't be happening, should this? Is this okay? It's like I signed up to see this. I didn't know what I was getting into. Big, big like clear gloves. And then the dude with the yellow glove in the horse's ass. Meanwhile Brett's down the road cutting the throat out of a cow. I can barely read, but I remember that. I remember head, thorax, tail. I remember all the stuff we killed if. I would be a genius if after each math problem I got to kill something. I remember all of it. Alright. Great job on the word problem, John. And here's a muskrat. Why don't you take care of that and show us its guts. I'm never gonna forget how to do that math problem. I'd be great at geometry. Anyway, enjoy. Enjoy school. School's still going right now or are they out next week? Are they done?
Brady
This is finals week.
John
Oh, they're getting it all right.
Brett Vesely
Apparently they butchered chickens in ag class a couple weeks ago from Stephen in.
John
Class just to be lousy with chickens. There's six classes a day. I don't know what. I don't know what school that is. He didn't say, but I don't get it.
Brett Vesely
I understand farming 8th graders dissecting frogs.
John
Why when in life did I need that again? Chopping that frog open and looking in there going, yeah, that makes sense. And then like six years later I'm like, oh, thank God.
Jeff
I know that.
John
It saved my life. It's never happened. Sitting in A bush waiting for my whiz kid.
Jeff
Stupid frogs.
John
Let me show you your guts.
Brady
You maybe run into a frog a couple of times after that in life. Yeah.
John
Yeah. And the last thing I'm gonna do is cut him from his nuts to his throat and expose his innards. But that's what they taught me.
Brady
That we used to hunt them frogs? Yeah.
Jeff
Why?
Brady
Frog legs.
John
You didn't eat frog legs.
Brett Vesely
Legs.
Brady
My dad would.
John
He did not. Just threw it away. You never had frog legs prepared at the house? No. You never.
Brett Vesely
Let's vacation start.
John
He just killed it with a stick and then laughed and kicked it back in the water. You never once bagged him up, brought him home. You were just a murderer of frogs for no reason whatsoever.
Brady
Oh, yeah, we did. The legs.
John
You ate the legs?
Brady
Yeah.
John
You were eating chicken fingers. Your parents told you it was legs. They threw all that away. Look, it.
Brady
It happened two times, right?
John
But you're not. I guarantee you you got lied to. If Bunny's here tomorrow, I guarantee you she'll be like, no, Brady, we prepared some nuggets for you and told it was your frog. We threw your frog. Nobody eats Rogue pond toad between nuggets and frog nuts. You think you would, but you were just eating it so fast and your brain told you it was right. Nobody takes home pond frogs to mom and has her cook them up unless they're in West Virginia. You people were classier than that. You didn't.
Todd
Oh, and get the fryer ready.
John
Brady. Great job. Rogue park toast. Good job. You weren't bringing home. You weren't a caveman bringing home a meal there. Your mom threw that out last time.
Brady
I had frog legs. Don and Charlie's.
John
Yeah. That's the only time. Oh, man.
Jeff
How long ago was that?
John
That is the Charlie. And I'm almost half convinced Don and Charlie's were just doing like probably deep fried chicken feet. Nobody's. Don or Charlie were not sitting over Kiwanis just scooping up frogs.
Jeff
Let's get these over to the restaurant.
John
People are gonna love this. You don't just. You especially aren't the woods killing a frog and bringing it home. Your parents are like, that's fine. Don't look into it. Just chop it up too.
Brady
John?
John
Yep. Let me guess. You were with that Andy less Doc kid that killed all the.
Brady
No, it was with my dad.
John
You and your dad went out frog hunting?
Brady
Yeah.
John
You sure your dad didn't drink?
Brady
Yeah.
John
Okay. It's tough to get dad off the couch to do stuff, but want to.
Todd
Go frog Hunting do.
John
I'm starving.
Brady
It's always in the summer, late at night. You take the flashlight, the big. The big torch.
John
Yeah.
Brady
And they're on the bank of the river that you're going down.
John
And they're looking at you like, what's up, man? How are you doing? And you just jam a stick through their heads and pretend to eat it. But your parents threw those right back in the water. Let's take Brady's haul down there and throw it back in the water. Starting to stink. He thinks we're gonna. He thinks we're eating the legs. He's not. Brady, those are clearly chicken nuggets. They're actually still in the box.
Todd
These are frog legs, right?
John
Yeah, baby. We just keep them in the ten piece nugget box.
Todd
Looks like a steak.
John
Yeah. Your mother prepares it. She's good.
Jeff
You didn't.
John
They didn't. Your parents. Your mom might still lie to you because she doesn't want to hurt you. That your childhood has some lies in it. Zero chance. Your mother made frog legs that you two brought home from the stupid park.
Brady
Woman. Get to work.
John
Cook these up. We killed for you again. I was just at the Thrifty and we have a store now. Tom. I killed for the family. Okay, that's enough. You two go to bed. And your mom just went bloop. Right in the trash. Took that trash out to the bin and then made you guys chicken nuggets. And the two of you dipped them in honey. Hey, these are the best ones I've ever had. Tastes like chicken. Exactly, because it is. Your mom mastered like a frog leg cookie cutter and made YouTube sit there and watch Ohio State volleyball and eat chicken frog legs. Your mother never happened.
Brady
The volleyball.
John
Your mother never prepared frog legs in that house ever. Especially your homeowner.
Brady
You might be right. It could have been my dad.
John
No, your dad didn't do it either. Your dad might have tried. Your mom's like, tom, get out of my kitchen. Making a mess cooking these frogs that the boy and I found. I've married a retarded man. The boy and I found food. No, you didn't. You're jackassing around the park and you brought frogs home. They're good eats. No, they're not. What'd you do with the rest of the frog? Just threw it out.
Brady
Yeah, they just take them for the legs. Crazy.
John
No, they take them for the legs.
Brady
Yeah.
John
No, they don't. You see a lot of French like restaurateurs at that same park. No, because nobody takes them for the legs, they leave them alone. Something's wrong with you. I can't wait for Bunny to come. I'm gonna call tomorrow. Bunny? Yeah. Tell Brady the truth about the frog legs. Oh, God. That she's gonna roll her in. Your sister. I'm sure your sister was thrilled that you and Pops were dragging her.
Brady
She was around. She wasn't allowed to be around.
John
That's right. She had to prepare them.
Brady
Only hunters.
John
Your mom had frog leg batter ready. You're crazy to believe this ever happened. You and your dad are idiots. That's hilarious.
Brady
My brother was in on it.
Byron
All right.
John
He's an idiot too then. Just kept YouTube busy eating nuggets.
Todd
God, these are good. I'm gonna go kill more frogs tomorrow.
Brady
Nope.
Brett Vesely
Squirrel.
John
Yeah. Did you ever cook up a squirrel?
Brady
Oh, yeah.
John
Did you? Yeah. I bet those probably taste a lot like chicken nuggets.
Brady
Nope. I'm good.
John
Chicken nuggets not good. You ate more chicken nuggets than anybody I've ever met thinking it was other stuff. Put a little cheese and some gravy on it. He'd never know. Brett, it's 6:29. Let's get. Yeah, it's cane sauce. You put cane sauce on it? What are these? I don't know.
Brady
Man, if they had it back.
John
Oh, Brady would be like, my mom.
Todd
Makes the frog dick and we eat that too.
John
He's chicken nuggets. Don't worry. He's an idiot. I just. I can tell him anything as long as there's cane sauce on it. It could be a shoe.
Brady
Hot dog.
Brett Vesely
That's a.
Brady
That's a leg.
John
It might have been hot dogs. She just had a. She could carve out the little feet. Look at its feet.
Todd
I'm a nom nom nom. I killed that.
Brady
Texters are saying so. The Bogan clan is single handedly responsible.
John
For the decimation of all the frogs in Ohio. There's like some their appetites and. Actually what's funny, I went back there and it was November when I went back. The place is lousy with flies. There's nothing stopping them. It's 6:30. Let's get a Wake up song, shall we? 585 9. 800. A good one and we'll scream it together. It's 98 KUPD.
Todd
Wake Up.
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John
He said fully erect.
Jeff
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John
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Episode: 12-16-25 – New Whiz App Seems Ripe For Child Predators, Darts vs Wasps, Animal Dissections, and “Frog Legs as a Kid”
Date: December 16, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Brett Vesely, Dick Toledo
This episode of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness ranges from darkly comedic takes on technology and safety with the controversial Whiz app for kids, to sports talk with an awe-struck recounting of a legendary dart match (and a wasp’s untimely end), followed by a nostalgic and hilarious look back at animal dissections in school and the dubious culinary claims of “frog legs as a kid.” The trio’s signature style blends satire, incredulity, dark humor, and genuine curiosity, all packed with snappy banter.
“A terrible franchise will spike for a couple years and then go right back to sucking because it’s in their nature.” — John (03:38)
“Placing unattended 13-year-olds in an Internet chatroom and saying, ‘You guys should meet up for playdates.’ What can go wrong here?” (07:18)
“And then the bush starts to rattle—another guy’s in there. ‘Hey, what are you doing?’ ‘Ah, waiting for a kid named Carl.’ ‘Ah, crap, I’m Carl.’ And two of them become friends…” — John (09:32)
“You can love someone and say they were completely wrong…The power of saying, ‘Geez, that was wrong’ is incredible.” (15:54)
“This dude took a wasp out with a dart. The wasp hadn’t landed.” — John (22:17)
“Those guys are unbelievable.” (20:23)
“Remember that? For some reason we all had to bring a grasshopper to school…And then we pulled it apart. Head, thorax, and tail…Why do I have to dismember it?” (29:18–29:43)
“Somebody killed a cat, brought it to school, and then the teachers are like, ‘I got an idea, I can show him what guts look like.’” (32:44)
“There should be no blood at the high school. That’s a rule I have.” (34:07)
“Zero chance your mother made frog legs that you two brought home from the stupid park.” (44:10)
On Bad Franchises in Sports:
“A terrible franchise will spike for a couple years and then go right back to sucking because it’s in their nature.” — John (03:38)
On AI’s Hacking Power:
“AI found it in six seconds…34 open [breaches]…hackers can get all of them from 34.” — John (06:53)
On the Whiz App:
“Placing unattended 13-year-olds in an Internet chatroom and saying, ‘You guys should meet up for playdates.’ What can go wrong here?” — John (07:18)
Predator Meetup Skit:
“The bush starts to rattle—another guy’s in there. ‘Hey, what are you doing?’ ‘Ah, waiting for a kid named Carl.’ ‘Ah, crap, I’m Carl.’ And two of them become friends.” — John (09:32)
On “Owning” Mistakes in Public Discourse:
“You can love someone and say they were completely wrong…The power of saying, ‘Geez, that was wrong’ is incredible.” — John (15:54)
Dart/wasp incident:
“This dude took a wasp out with a dart. The wasp hadn’t landed.” — John (22:17)
On School Animal Dissection:
“Why do I have to dismember it?...We pulled the head out using those pins…And you had to pin it down…It comes right out just like a daisy.” — John (29:43–30:04)
Frog Legs Skepticism:
“Zero chance your mother made frog legs that you two brought home from the stupid park.” — John (44:10)
The episode is classic HMS: rapid-fire, irreverent, self-aware, and unafraid to probe darker corners for comedy. Banter flies freely, making space for both genuine nostalgia and pointed, sometimes biting, wit. The humor is often dark or absurd, but always self-deprecating, and never fails to draw out the most embarrassing (and hilarious) truths from each other’s pasts.
This summary gives a detailed, structured guide to the major topics, tone, and humor of the episode—perfect for listeners catching up or jumping in for the first time.