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Brett Vesely
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Holmberg
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Holmberg
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Radio Announcer
The rest of H's morning sickness. This is the big red radio.
Holmberg
I didn't. It's not even. It has not been talked about at my home. But I turned the TV on the other day and it was on. Hot Frosty.
Donovan
What was that?
Holmberg
I don't know. It's some Christmas movie that was on and it was paused. Hot Frosty.
Brett Vesely
Sounds like a porn. I was like, all right.
Holmberg
That's what I thought at first, too. But it turns out it's a. It's a Christmas movie about some sort of sexy snowman come to life thing. I don't know. I didn't. I didn't read it, but that is something. Someone hit play on. It gauged interest in someone enough to not only do that, somebody thought it was a good enough script to make it because they realized there's an audience of women out there. Be like, yes, A snowman comes to life and he's sexy and he's everything. I was like, this is the biggest pile of ever. And he's romantic. It's not like weird science where they built a whore out of a computer thing. And then she started to do like all sorts of jobs from Hot Frosty just was.
Brett Vesely
So it's Ryan Gosling walking in or something.
Holmberg
And he also is the biggest pansy on the planet. He's the Snowman. He's kind of naive. She gets to teach him how to be a man. Which is just the opposite of what man.
Donovan
I might have to catch this.
Holmberg
Hot Frosty. Well, I'm making it up as far as like what happened in Hot Frosty because I didn't even read the synopsis. I saw the name Hock Frosty and the picture of the guy and I'm like, Jesus. It's a fever dream for broads that a man comes to life. You know, it's Prince Charming stuff. And they never talk about it. He ride off into the sunset. Cause he's perfect. He's all about her needs and like he's cleaning the house and stuff. Hot Frosty.
Brett Vesely
There you go.
Holmberg
Oh, you've got the Tracy Chabert. Lacey Chabert's and everything.
Kathy
My life is a mess. Good things come to you when you're out in the cold.
Holmberg
Kathy, Magic scarf.
Kathy
Clearly you've been doing your push ups.
Donovan
You know what.
Holmberg
And then somebody did a sculpted snowman. You keep it and the scarf brings them to life. And you know what's crazy about Terminator? There's no possible way that that sculpted snowman wasn't made by a gang. Get behind you and push.
Kathy
Huh?
Jack
On November 13th.
Kathy
Excuse me. Can I help you? This is Jack.
Holmberg
I was a sn. No man.
Kathy
That's not good. The coveralls and the boots.
Holmberg
It's real. Yes.
Jack
Man went streaking in front of poor Ethel Jennings.
Holmberg
Hi there. He's a beautiful man who used to be a snowman. He came to life in Lacey Swank Encino Man. Lacy She Bear couldn't find a man on the planet. There's only three. There's only three and a half billion of us. And she just couldn't do it until a snowman came to life. Hot Frosty. And chicks click on it. And on a date before.
Jack
Please, I need your help with Cassie. It's been a minute for me too.
Holmberg
What in the name of God? Yeah. Why is Craig Robinson in Hot Frost? I want to make the most of the time that I have with you.
Kathy
A man not sweet's just gotta be magic.
Holmberg
Oh my God. Jesus. We gotta be careful, boys. Here we are. Having a conversation. If they lose a fingernail, we're out. And they're dreaming up Hot Frosty on the side.
Brett Vesely
Hot Frosty. Not my idea of Hot Frosty, but okay.
Holmberg
Hot Frosty. Now imagine, ladies, if dudes are like, chicks all suck. There's three and a half billion of them, and all of them suck. And we build a magic whore Snow girl and we call it, you know, Sexy Frosty. They'd be so mad at us for that movie. That would be the worst.
Listener/Caller
Like, what is wrong with you guys? You have this idealistic. What a woman should be.
Holmberg
This muscular, super ripped, awesome dude, we used to be a snowman. Cause all of us suck.
Donovan
Hot Elsa.
Holmberg
Whore Frosty.
Brett Vesely
You need to lock out your Netflix account.
Holmberg
Oh, that's one of times I'm. I canceled TV at the house. It's over. You know what? After Hard Knocks ends, I'm not gonna have any more tv. Cause I'm not credit. Didn't follow through. Has not been spoken of. I only got through about 10 minutes of it before the TV went off, so. But that was the last thing on the television. Hot Frosty. And in her mind for a second, this looks.
Byron
Boop.
Brett Vesely
Play.
Holmberg
I don't blame her for wanting a magic snowman to come to life as the most, you know, a very good looking, you know, handsome, ripped dude. That makes sense to me because I would want the same thing. But women don't start in that hole.
Listener/Caller
The false image of what a man thinks a woman should look like when.
Holmberg
You make Hot Frosty. That you're the same as us. You want the same as us. You didn't ever make Hot Frosty, Shane Gillis. That's not what comes out.
Listener/Caller
I just want a man with a sense of humor.
Holmberg
Well, then how come when you make Hot Frosty, Bert Kreischer isn't what the scarf brings you. You're the same as us. You have an unrealistic ideal of what beauty is, too, but we also do, so we get it. Someone spent. Donovan, you make a great point. So someone spent real American money to make Hot Frosty. Is childhood cancer not a thing anymore? Yeah, you're right. You know what, Donovan? That money could have been. It could have been one or the other. We're gonna make Hot Frosty or we're gonna give some money to childhood cancer. What if she loses her head? Just asking for a friend named O.J. yeah, that's true. It's a deal breaker. Hot Frosty. And then Matt Rife comes out.
Jack
I'm Hot frosty. I've got 55 different abdominal muscles.
Listener/Caller
This is exactly what I wanted.
Holmberg
3.5 billion men suck. You needed a magic scarf to turn a snowman that a gay guy clearly built into a real human being.
Brett Vesely
Oh, yeah. Michael and Troy were executive producers on that.
Holmberg
Michael and Troy built the snowman. Nobody's ever built a snowman and carved out, you know, pecs.
Donovan
The guys that are sitting on the script of David. Yeah, she puts a scarf around the statue.
Holmberg
But what if. Just hear me out. You ran into a hot snowman and had a magic scarf? Would you bring him to life? Oh, yes.
Brett Vesely
Chicks might be making movies about Hot Frosty while us men are making real sex robots. We win.
Holmberg
We're actually. Yeah, they're building the fantasy. We're way weird. Science happened in the 80s. You're just now coming up with Hot Frosty? Another unoriginal chick idea. Hot Frosty. It got greenlit. They got a cast of people I recognize.
Donovan
I'd like to hear Craig's take on it. When you saw the script.
Holmberg
I know Craig's take on it.
Donovan
Cha ching.
Holmberg
Show me the money. Yeah, that and the Pizza Hut dough. He's doing all right. Yeah, I saw Craig last. He was so high. Didn't know who at all was talking to him.
Donovan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Holmberg
It was for my birthday show. Crazy. He just came over to drink with us. I remember you.
Donovan
No, you don't.
Holmberg
You're high. You don't remember three minutes ago.
Brett Vesely
Vader wants to know if we're watching Hot Frosty at the second show.
Holmberg
There is no second show. If you want to stick around, we'll put Hot Frosty up. I'm going home.
Radio Announcer
But Merry effing holidays from The Big Red Radio 98 KUPD. Holmberg's morning sickness.
Listener/Caller
Life's just really tough for me.
Holmberg
And then Rita Moreno's twin sister gives her a scarf.
Donovan
We could ask him to put it up in the pre party. Just in the background on the monitors.
Brett Vesely
Yeah, I'm sure Nine Ball won't mind that.
Holmberg
Oh, no, no. In fairness to Hot Frosty. Yeah.
Donovan
In the back video.
Holmberg
Mind if Hot Frosty's going on behind him? We'd lose Natalie. Their lead singer would turn around and start watching.
Listener/Caller
Shut up, you guys. Hot Frosty's on.
Jack
Hot Frosty too.
Holmberg
Like she broke up with the first snow. Had to get that scarf.
Brett Vesely
Well, the first one melted, so.
Holmberg
Yeah. Give me that scarf. Yeah. In springtime, he's gone. I wonder if there's a tear jerking ending to Hot Frosty where he has to like, go because it's too hot. And he'll be back again next year. Like Frosted the Snowman had to leave. Remember when he started to melt. But Frosty Snowman didn't turn into a dude. And this will have that stupid thing like with love. His carbon based body will stay if he finds love. And he didn't even know that.
Listener/Caller
I guess I'm just worried that you're gonna leave or.
Holmberg
That you can't be in the sun.
Jack
If you really love hot Frosty. Hot Frosty can live in the summertime.
Holmberg
That's how scary Frosty the Snowman. They kill him, he dies.
Donovan
It was brutal.
Holmberg
It's a terrible ending. He's dead.
Donovan
Sacrificed himself.
Holmberg
Yeah, he had to. Yeah, Like Jesus.
Brett Vesely
They're making all these like Christmas chick flicks. Like with.
Holmberg
Oh, it's terrible.
Brett Vesely
Like now there's the Merry gentleman too.
Holmberg
What's that? Oh, yeah, what's. Did you see?
Donovan
That's a Hallmark one.
Holmberg
I think Hot Frosty is awesome. What's this?
Donovan
No, that was on Netflix.
Holmberg
Special.
Donovan
This Netflix.
Holmberg
More stripping man.
Casey
Never seen before.
Holmberg
And the dad from Family Ties. Was that a rhetorical question?
Casey
I was supposed to be inspirational.
Holmberg
Sounded rhetorical. How about you guys?
Byron
Whatever.
Holmberg
What are these guys?
Byron
Strippers.
Brett Vesely
Yeah, they're doing a Christmas.
Casey
Used to be a tradition around here.
Listener/Caller
But now it's on life support.
Holmberg
Oh, nobody shows up to the rhythm room, so you have to get dudes dicks out.
Listener/Caller
Too many holes in the walls and.
Holmberg
The women will show up.
Listener/Caller
Oh, the lake.
Casey
There's got to be a way to get people excited about this place again, don't you think?
Brett Vesely
Male strippers are the answer.
Casey
Male dance review.
Holmberg
Oh, my God.
Brett Vesely
What?
Holmberg
Yes, ladies, you're worse than us because you try to make. You try to disguise your whoredom with romance. The only way to make it. I've never once seen John Taffer or Gordon Ramsay going in there going, you need more nudity. Maybe serve better food. Clean the place up a little bit. You might get some punters.
Brett Vesely
Here's for the slow people. Christmas cowboy.
Holmberg
She wakes up and there's a cowboy in her house. That's called rape. It's all about women whose lives suck.
Brett Vesely
And then magically can't find a man.
Holmberg
Magically. Jonathan has a surprise for you.
Brett Vesely
I'm giving you the opportunity to make partner.
Holmberg
It's not a good surprise, it's a bad surprise.
Brett Vesely
He refuses to work with anyone who isn't a hometown born and bred Jericho local.
Listener/Caller
Oh, do I have to go there?
Holmberg
She's got to go out to some farm.
Donovan
Must be Maria.
Holmberg
And meet a cowboy.
Donovan
I didn't mean to.
Holmberg
Oh, she's a fish out of water. She's a city gal. Doesn't want to be there. It's like Pauly Shore and Son in Law.
Brett Vesely
Christmas homecoming.
Jack
Had to go home for Christmas and meet a clearly Jewish cowboy.
Holmberg
She was Ducky, the Jewish cowboy. It's Bucky Feldstein. I cannot wait to see who wins this competition. All right. I can't take it. I don't know how you got us off on that one, Brett.
Brett Vesely
You started talking about Hot Frosty.
Holmberg
Hot Frosty?
Donovan
I can review one more.
Holmberg
Hallmark. Well, you got one. You watch that, Casey.
Donovan
Kansas City Chiefs.
Holmberg
Oh, the story. What is it?
Donovan
Two stars?
Holmberg
It's the Chiefs fan and a Chiefs player.
Donovan
Yeah, her family exploded. Ed Begley Jr. Grandpa.
Holmberg
They're paying big money for these things now. They're getting good B listers. What is that? Touchdown of love or something like that? No, Touchdown of love is the down syndrome. Yeah.
Brett Vesely
Guys falling for football?
Holmberg
No, but I think it's gonna fool a bunch of Swifties into thinking it's the Taylor Swift Travis Kelce story.
Donovan
And it's not. Although Donna Kelsey's in it. She works at the diner.
Holmberg
Yeah, they're in it. It's a Christmas. That's it. The third one down.
Byron
There you go.
Donovan
Holiday touchdown. A chief's love story.
Holmberg
Chiefs love story.
Listener/Caller
So all these Swifties, like, turn your attention to midfield.
Jack
From Hallmark and the NFL.
Holmberg
Oh, my God.
Donovan
You know, there's a couple cameos of.
Jack
The year award comes a love story that's a real Christmas game changer.
Holmberg
Okay. You watched it? Oh, yeah.
Brett Vesely
Oh, Jesus.
Holmberg
Well, they are tapping into the Swifty.
Brett Vesely
Does Mahomes make an appearance or anything?
Donovan
None of the. None of the marquee players. There's a couple of players that come in. Oh, one.
Brett Vesely
I thought Mahomes kicker shows up or.
Holmberg
Mahomes defensive lineman Chris Ford.
Donovan
Might have been it.
Holmberg
So it's just being like three seconds.
Donovan
Andy Reid at the end goes, come on, we need the field.
Holmberg
Yeah, because there's too much romance going.
Donovan
On in the football player of the year.
Holmberg
Hilarious as Andy Reid Holiday touchdown.
Jack
A chief's love story.
Holmberg
Not at all affiliated with Taylor Swift.
Donovan
Oh, they led you to believe that was going to be about that?
Holmberg
Yeah. That's a deal breaker if you got, you know, for girls like, I loved hot Frosty, I loved Kansas City hot Touchdown show. You're out. You're dumb. Because then they get it in their heads that it's possible they start looking at you differently. What ladies don't realize with us is we watch Weird Science and realize we don't look at the. You know, we just realize it's fancy kind of cool, be neat if it happened, but it's not gonna. So we go back to reality. I don't think girls do that. I think they watch Hot Frosty and I think about, what if?
Jack
God, that would be great.
Holmberg
Then they look at you like, look.
Jack
At that tub of goo.
Donovan
You're right though. There's gotta be the deal breaker in Hot Frosty.
Holmberg
He's gotta melt or he's gotta stay. And you know what keeps him alive? Wouldn't it be great? Love if the end of Hot Frosty.
Jack
If I don't get to be inside you like four times a day, I melt.
Listener/Caller
Okay.
Holmberg
Uh oh.
Jack
Looks like I'm leaking a little bit.
Holmberg
Swallow it.
Donovan
Hey, what happened to Frosty? He melted two years ago.
Jack
Look, I got melted me all over my tummy.
Holmberg
Lick this off.
Listener/Caller
Anything for you, Hot Frosty.
Holmberg
You telling me. And then you gotta tell your realistic girlfriends he's his former snowman and if.
Listener/Caller
I don't blow him every once in.
Holmberg
A while, he melts. You bought into this?
Listener/Caller
Yeah, he's perfect. It's a magic scarf.
Holmberg
All right, we're not friends anymore.
Jack
Hot Frosty. This Christmas.
Holmberg
Touchdown of love. Touch of downs. This one says he's not gonna be Hot Frosty when she sticks that warm finger in his ass. That's true. You don't mess around with a snowman doing stuff like that. Frosty, what do you got on the board of musical treats? They're Hot Frosty.
Brett Vesely
Of course then the text can be gulp.
Holmberg
Sup, gulp. What happened to my big gay snowman? This guy says I'm making a perfect figured snow woman in my front yard with implants and everything else. Because if it's okay for them to.
Listener/Caller
Do it wise, it's an unrealistic beauty standard and you're not allowed to do it.
Holmberg
You built Hot Frosty.
Listener/Caller
It's stupid. It's different.
Holmberg
Well, no, it's not.
Radio Announcer
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Holmberg
He said fully erect.
Theme:
The episode centers around John Holmberg and his co-hosts' comedic and cynical breakdown of "Hot Frosty," a (fictional) Christmas movie about a sexy snowman who comes to life, which Holmberg found paused on his home television. The discussion quickly becomes a broader, satirical commentary on the formulaic nature of holiday romance movies, gendered fantasy ideals, and the absurdity of entertainment greenlights. The hosts riff about other similar movies, the tropes in romantic holiday films, and the double standards around idealized characters.
On the premise itself:
“It’s a fever dream for broads that a man comes to life. You know, it’s Prince Charming stuff...he’s cleaning the house and stuff. Hot Frosty.”
— Holmberg (01:36–02:56)
On female/male fantasy movies:
“If dudes are like, chicks all suck... and we build a magic whore snow girl... They’d be so mad at us for that movie.”
— Holmberg (04:36)
On body representation:
“Nobody’s ever built a snowman and carved out, you know, pecs.”
— Holmberg (07:21)
On double standards:
“You’re the same as us. You have an unrealistic ideal of what beauty is, too, but we also do, so we get it.”
— Holmberg (06:12)
On the absurdity of it all:
“Someone spent real American money to make Hot Frosty. Is childhood cancer not a thing anymore?”
— Holmberg (06:12)
On Hallmark/Netflix knockoffs:
"No, but I think it’s gonna fool a bunch of Swifties into thinking it’s the Taylor Swift Travis Kelce story."
— Holmberg (13:08)
On the Chick Flick formula:
“It’s all about women whose lives suck...”
— Holmberg (11:38)
On cleaning up bars:
“I've never once seen John Taffer or Gordon Ramsay going in there going, you need more nudity. Maybe serve better food. Clean the place up a little bit.”
— Holmberg (11:15)
Holmberg’s Morning Sickness uses their trademark irreverent, sarcastic tone to lampoon the predictability and absurdity of Christmas romantic movies like "Hot Frosty." Through escalating satire and gender commentary, the hosts highlight how everyone—regardless of gender—loves idealized fantasy, even when it gets silly or inappropriate. The episode is fast-paced, filled with running jokes, and would especially entertain listeners weary of saccharine holiday movie clichés.