12-20-25 - John's Take On PNut The Squirrel Gets Overtaken By Brady's Admission Of Taking Wildlife From Arkansas To Ohio In Another Bogen Life Revelation - BO

Summary

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Holmberg's Morning Sickness - Arizona

Episode: 12-20-25 – Squirrel Drama, Brady’s Arkansas Wildlife Revelations, and the Chaos of Backyard Animal Rescue

Air date: December 30, 2025
Host(s): John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Brett Vesely, Dick Toledo

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Main Theme & Purpose

The episode kicks off with John Holmberg offering his hot take on the recent controversy surrounding "Peanut the Squirrel" – a domesticated squirrel seized by authorities in a social media–fueled legal/ethical furor. The conversation rapidly evolves (and goes off the rails) when Brady Bogen confesses to a jaw-dropping series of wildlife "rescues" as a kid, dragging the discussion into personal anecdotes of illegally transporting animals across state lines, the difference between pets and wild animals, and the dangerous lines between compassion, meddling, and absurdity.

The episode is a hilarious, at times chaotic meditation on humans' weird fixation with wild animals (especially making them pets), the ethics of intervention, regional kid shenanigans, and the role of government in policing people's backyards. Laced with characteristic sarcasm, banter, and escalating stories, Holmberg's crew turns a viral squirrel incident into a comically outrageous confessional.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Peanut the Squirrel Fiasco and OnlyFans Drama

• [01:13] John recaps the news: Mark and Daniela Longo (OnlyFans creators) had their pet squirrel, Peanut, and raccoon, Fred, seized and euthanized by authorities after a neighbor's tip.
• The debate arises around the neighbors’ possible motives (jealousy, moral outrage at the Longos' online activities), TikTok animal stardom, and the ethical reality of keeping wild animals indoors.
• John is unapologetically direct: “I think Peanut should have been put down...this dude used to put cowboy hats on the squirrel and make him dance around on TikTok.” ([01:30])

2. When Is a Wild Animal a Pet?

• [02:14] The crew discusses their own childhood interactions with wild animals. Brady admits to multiple "rescues," leading to an avalanche of crazy backyard animal stories.
• John’s stance: “If this squirrel wasn’t an Instagram sensation and was just in your neighbor’s house, and you’re like, that thing’s drooling and it’s rabid...officials have to come by and take the squirrel. It’s a rat with a tail.” ([03:10])
• The difference between compassion, naivete, and public health gets blurry – especially as Brady confesses to ever-escalating "rescues."

3. Brady’s Wild Childhood: "Muckrat Ray" and Wildlife Smuggling

• [06:08] Brady reminisces about trying to capture a flying squirrel as a high-schooler in Arkansas, plotting to bring it back to Ohio: “We were in the woods...going along the Buffalo River.”
• He confesses to transporting a venomous copperhead snake across state lines, keeping it as a pet until his dad put an end to it – literally: “My dad killed it, because he’s a decent man..." ([08:39])
• Other stories include catching raccoon babies after the mother was trapped, catching and releasing injured owls and crows (“Muckrat Ray did a catch and release on an owl and a crow…” ([40:28])), and even once keeping a black widow in a jar.

“What’s wrong with you? What did you do with the poisonous snake?”
— John ([08:19])

“I also brought back a black widow home, same haul.”
— Brady ([11:50])

4. The Ethics (and Legalities) of Keeping Wild Animals

• [13:17–15:00+] The group debates legal and moral boundaries:
  • Should social media’s “cute” wild pets be treated as exceptions?
  • Are people’s instincts to help ultimately dangerous?
  • “Don’t pick up wild animals and take them.” — John ([05:15])
• Brett Vesely provides the city-slicker “WTF” perspective, repeatedly expressing shock over Brady’s stories.
• A caller shares a parallel story of being fined for keeping an injured mountain lion cub for a couple of weeks: “If the fine for the HOV lane’s $400, but it’s $150 for a mountain lion cub...we need to boost that fine.” — John ([43:04])

5. The Great American Tradition of Kid Animal Chaos

• The host's childhoods are contrasted: "We didn’t have these lifestyles, John." ([42:23])
• John's ex-wife once tried to domesticate a lynx, thinking it was a normal cat ("Herbie"): “Herbie was about 61 pounds. This thing was fierce...” ([32:46])
• The segment is peppered with both awe and horror as the hosts and listeners reel at Brady's willingness to bring home venomous snakes, black widows, and raccoons.

6. Domestication Debate: Dogs vs. Squirrels (and Why the System Exists)

• [19:00+] Ongoing argument: Where do we draw the line between pet and pest? Is it hypocrisy to celebrate dogs while condemning squirrel-keepers?
• “They don’t have squirrel stores. There’s nothing at the Humane Society.” — John ([20:08])
• “We domesticated dogs thousands of years ago.” — John ([23:39])
• “That is not a valid argument.” — John, cutting off Brady’s slippery slope reasoning ([23:36])

7. Community (and Listener) Reactions & Ridicule

• [28:42+] Flood of texts and calls, with listeners adding their own animal stories, roasting Brady for his "domestication pioneer" mindset, and joking about outrageous situations (like bringing a black woman to show and tell as a kid — a brief digression late in the episode).
• Listeners oscillate between delight and disbelief at Brady's "cutting edge" of animal domestication ("He’s the one who’s going to do it. He’s the pioneer." — John, [34:48])

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Notable Quotes & Moments by Timestamp

The Squirrel Saga Begins...

• “Now let’s get into the real thing that’s going on in the world. Nuts out for Peanut.” — John ([01:13])
• “They took away the squirrel and the raccoon that lived there. Let’s not forget Fred.” — John ([01:17])

Brady’s Animal Adventures

• “You splinted a squirrel’s leg?” — John ([03:01])
• “What are you going to—why, if a rat’s injured, do you help it?” — John ([05:29])
• “No, that was...less dog. You confirmed it.” — John, on a friend infamous for beheading cats ([41:45])
• Brady, proudly: “I brought back a poisonous snake from Arkansas.” ([08:08])
• “You had a poisonous snake and a black—You’re a serial killer.” — John ([11:54])

The Legal/Moral Pivot

• “I don’t think you have. What’s wrong with you?” — John ([08:19])
• “We have to say that...Ronnie you’re doing God’s work over there keeping this thing in order, because if it wasn’t for… it would look like the lobby of the Bates Motel except for they’d all be alive. Hoot, hoot, hoot, hoot. Yeah, I don’t… you can’t just go and grab a squirrel and say this is a pet now and put a cowboy hat on.” — John ([28:16])

Domestication Riff: The Great Debate

• “You can’t domesticate wild animals and then start saying, well, we did it with dogs. It’s just not normal.” – John ([23:56])
• “What’s stopping you from grabbing a mountain lion?” – John ([24:15])

Listeners Join In

• “[Text]...I, for one, understand what Brady is saying. Because as someone who has gotten 150-dollar fine in Dewey for taking a wounded mountain lion cub…” ([42:23])

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Memorable Tangents

The Ostrich Egg & Show-and-Tell Saga

• Brady reminisces about taking "Olive," a black woman who worked for his family, to his fifth-grade show-and-tell.
  • “She brought an ostrich egg with her. Showed the…” ([44:11])
  • The conversation devolves into playful but edgy banter about “parading” her and her decorative gifts at school, mocking vintage National Geographic stereotypes.

Herbie the 61-Pound Lynx

• John’s ex-wife’s attempts at lynx domestication: “Herbie was not nice to anyone but her...it would run on the walls like it was a velodrome.” ([32:46])
• “If I came over, I’m like, where’s the cat? First words.” — John ([35:36])

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:13–05:15: Peanut the Squirrel backstory, government intervention, debates over wild animal "rescue"
• 06:08–09:50: Brady's high school animal-collecting confessions & copperhead snake story
• 13:17–15:00: The ethics of keeping wild animals and what happens to them after “rescue”
• 28:41–31:47: Brady’s defense of “domesticating” animals; texts/calls light up with animal tales and scorn
• 32:46–36:49: John’s lynx cat story (Herbie), wild cats vs pets, more off-the-rails animal stories
• 44:01–47:03: Ostrich egg and African housekeeper show-and-tell tangent—Brady’s youthful cross-cultural awkwardness on full display

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Tone & Style

The episode is quick-witted, irreverent, and full of sardonic ridicule—especially from John toward Brady’s earnest but misguided animal antics. The crew’s dynamic alternates between wisecracks, exasperation, and genuine amazement at Brady's stories, with frequent interruptions from listeners intensifying the fun. While the cringe and the compassion ebb and flow, it’s ultimately a comedy-of-errors about animal misadventures and the wild, unpredictable human instinct to “save” nature (and dress it up for Instagram).

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Conclusion

The episode takes a planned discussion about the ethics and legalities of keeping wild animals and transforms it into a sidesplitting confessional of backwoods (and backyard) wildlife shenanigans, revealing the blurred boundaries between animal rescue and animal interference. Brady’s revelations (from copperheads to black widows to ostrich eggs) upstage the central Peanut debate, much to the amusement (and dismay) of John, Brett, and the audience.

“Don’t pick up wild animals and take them.” – John’s lesson, hammered home in vintage HMS banter style.

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(For full effect, listen for the wild pivots, laugh-out-loud incredulity, and Brady’s dazzling honesty—you’ll never look at backyard squirrels (or second-grade show-and-tell) the same way again.)

Transcript

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[John Holmberg]

Now let's get into the real thing that's going on in the world. Nuts out for Peanut. We all know about Peanut the squirrel at this point. A raid on a house. They took away the squirrel and the raccoon that lived there. Fred. Let's not forget Fred. Fred lived in there too. Mark Longo is the guy who owned Peanut the squirrel and Daniella. And it was based on an anonymous tip by a neighbor we were talking about. A little bit. It's still rolling. The owners, Mark Longo Longo and his wife Daniela do Onlyfans porn. So they're being accused of saying you're using the death of your squirrel to sell your Onlyfans page. Whatever works. That's business. However, people have asked me, like, how do you feel about Peanut the squirrel and the raid, the government raid that went in there? I don't normally say this for it. I think peanuts should have been put down. Not necessarily the way they did, but this dude used to put cowboy hats on the squirrel and make him dance around on TikTok and stuff.

[Brady]

Water ski, I think.

[John Holmberg]

Well, they had. They always make that. But he was doing tricks and things like that. But he found him injured and took him home. Somebody said, something's wrong with it. It's a rodent. We have to draw some lines. We had Marvin, the school. I know. And that. I know. And you would.

[Brady]

He lived outside, though, but he would come over.

[John Holmberg]

You just named.

[Brady]

From a couple of trees.

[John Holmberg]

You just named a woodland creature that frequented your backyard. Did you keep him in the house?

[Brady]

No.

[John Holmberg]

You grabbed him a few times.

[Brady]

Oh, yeah. And then found him.

[John Holmberg]

You didn't find him.

[Brady]

Muckrat Ray, same thing. I think Marvin was injured, brought him back, and then let him go in the neighborhood and.

[John Holmberg]

What do you mean, let him go? He was gone in the first place.

[Brady]

Repaired, got him healed up.

[John Holmberg]

With what?

[Brady]

A shaman leg splint. The leg?

[John Holmberg]

You splinted a squirrel's leg?

[Brady]

I didn't do it.

[John Holmberg]

One of your neighbors did. Yeah, he was walking around with a cast.

[Brady]

Buckrat Ray, that.

[John Holmberg]

What are you doing?

[Brett Vesely]

The hell is Muckrat Ray?

[John Holmberg]

He's the idiot lives across the street. Because the dude who's the doctor, he was the woodsman. Local rodents, we have to have a rule. And I'm not. Look, if this. If this squirrel wasn't an Instagram sensation and was just in your neighbor's house, and you're like, that thing's drooling and it's rabid or whatever you'd call, too. And then officials have to come by and take the squirrel. It's a. It's a rat with a tail. Didn't you watch Inglourious Basterds? There's a great speech about the difference between a rat and a squirrel. One's furry and cute, and the other one's a rat, but they're the same thing if you shave it down.

[Brady]

I wonder if I would have done. I mean, you know, because I would have been that candidate a few times.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, you, Rachel, you had a raccoon in your house, but you're not close to £30, right? And I'm not a fan of, like, the heartfelt, emotional side of peanut, the squirrel being put down. But bottom line is, if the. If the authorities are being told by neighbors, hey, he's keeping squirrels in his house, and they come by and go, give me the squirrel. That squirrel's not. And they're like, it's injured. Like, they're putting it down. I've had a jackrabbit in my front yard. Megan drove it to the vet.

[Guest]

He's got A broken leg.

[John Holmberg]

And the vet's like, what do you want me to do about it?

[Guest]

You gotta fix him.

[John Holmberg]

Then what? Put him back into the wild. He's gonna get eaten in a second. He's used to people touching him. And so you get a call an hour later, he didn't make it.

[Guest]

From the broken leg?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he didn't make it. Oh, they put him down. That's what you do when you have. You know, when somebody brings in injured animal. Peanut, the squirrel needed to be put down. In fact, Mender, our old blind intern, worked down at the he. What do you think of Peanut? Do you think that's a. They should have done that? And I'm like, ah, it's not dicks out for Harambe. Harambe was a zoo creature. They should have let him go. But when somebody got in with Harambe and he started to eat the kid, I was on Harambe side. That's different. You don't get in the cage with it, but you don't.

[Brady]

It might not have lasted too long if you just let him go in the woods.

[John Holmberg]

Brady.

[Brady]

Only because, you know, he's just.

[John Holmberg]

Don't pick up wild animals and take them.

[Brady]

I can't help myself.

[John Holmberg]

You can't help yourself. And that's who I'm talking to. You're gonna end up giving rabies to Olla Gilbert. If a squirrel looks injured, you just let it be.

[Brady]

I'm helping that guy.

[John Holmberg]

What are you gonna. Why if a rat's injured, do you help it?

[Brady]

That's a little different.

[John Holmberg]

It's not if Pizza rat. Well, if he's sharing a pie with you. I know your story, but if a. If a rat is like limping around, you're like, ah, it's not gonna make. You wouldn't pick up a rat and bring it out.

[Brady]

No, I just.

[John Holmberg]

Same thing with a squirrel.

[Brady]

Nature take place.

[John Holmberg]

Why do people think squirrels are that? That you would pick it up to help. That you let nature take its course with that too?

[Brady]

Yeah, for some reason, squirrel's a little different road.

[John Holmberg]

No, it's not. It's an. And raccoons are the same thing. They eat out of the trash.

[Brady]

I tried to catch a flying squirrel one time.

[John Holmberg]

I don't even know what that means. How did you know? Oh, they're little cane.

[Brady]

No, they're flying from tree to tree.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I thought you said blind.

[Brady]

No, flying squirrel.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, he was a flying squirrel. You said you had a blind squirrel. Like, please help me. You tried to catch a flying squirrel? Why? To keep forever. How old were you 30?

[Brady]

High school.

[John Holmberg]

You were high school? I, I, I would have guessed six or seven. Your high school agent tried to catch and keep a flying squirrel.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

What were you using to catch it? Were you shooting at it?

[Brady]

Man made lean to the whole thing. Trying to catch it at night. But it was.

[John Holmberg]

You'd put food in a box so bad.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And you'd sit in the corner and.

[Brady]

Try to snap it because they're turtle or night.

[John Holmberg]

So you would take your three nights in high school instead of getting drunk and trying to bang yourself.

[Brady]

We were in the woods in Arkansas going along the Buffalo river.

[John Holmberg]

And you and a hillbilly. And then you were gonna bring this back to Ohio.

[Brady]

I was gonna bring it back.

[John Holmberg]

And people were okay with it. Oh yeah. Your family's like, you'll let them go. Brett's right. If you could see Brett's face right now. It represents the city. You built a box with a trapdoor and hoping for a flying squirrel to go in so you could trap it under there.

[Brady]

Pull it under there. They're too fast for them.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. A good B. What were you gonna do if you trapped one?

[Brady]

Catch him.

[John Holmberg]

And do what? You were taking from Arkansas to Ohio.

[Brady]

To Ohio.

[Guest]

How?

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[Commercial Announcer 2]

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[John Holmberg]

It's that guy. I will treat him like an angel. I will name him George. Really?

[Brady]

But probably would have just been there for two days.

[John Holmberg]

Then what?

[Brady]

Let him go in Arkansas. You deported him to. Oh, yeah. That was. That was my idea. I don't.

[John Holmberg]

Dad would have you know that. Your father. Because someone.

[Brady]

Although we did bring back.

[Brett Vesely]

I thought you were in college.

[John Holmberg]

He's in high school.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, this high school.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. Your dad brought back what?

[Brady]

I brought back a poisonous snake from Arkansas.

[John Holmberg]

For what purpose? So you're the one I'm talking to.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Stop it.

[Brady]

I did. I've stopped it.

[John Holmberg]

I don't think you have. What's wrong with you? What did you do with the poisonous snake?

[Brady]

You took it back to Ohio?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Are they indigenous to Ohio?

[Brady]

Yeah. One was copperhead.

[John Holmberg]

So you just let it go?

[Brady]

No. No. I went to church one Sunday morning, came back and there's a copperhead skinned out on the.

[John Holmberg]

Something made it.

[Brady]

My dad.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, your dad killed it because it's a decent man who knew what to do with a poisonous snake. Yeah. His dumb son. Yeah. Because you don't do that.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

What was your plan with the poisonous snake?

[Brady]

Pet snake for a while.

[Commercial Announcer]

It's not a pet.

[Brady]

Throw. Throw mouse or whatever.

[John Holmberg]

Where are you getting the mice? You catching those Two, I didn't buy the mice over at the creepy mice store.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

For your poisonous snake. And your parents were okay with it?

[Brady]

It's dumb. It was dumb.

[John Holmberg]

You had it in the car all the way from Arkansas to Ohio.

[Brady]

Yes. And we stopped by Midway and went to Six Flags.

[John Holmberg]

And you just lived in the.

[Brady]

And I went to the pet center and said, will you watch my pet?

[John Holmberg]

You dropped a poisonous snake off at the.

[Brady]

Yes. And the guy's like, put it in the corner. Wait a bit. They have at center today.

[John Holmberg]

You'd be arrested. How poisonous? A water moccasin type. Okay. So it'll drop you. It'll drop a small person. Not you. A kid would die from a copperhead bite?

[Brady]

No, but they'd be sick for 24 hours.

[John Holmberg]

And you put them at the fun part.

[Brady]

Yeah. Wow.

[Texter or Caller]

Six Flags in St. Louis or what?

[John Holmberg]

On the way home. Yeah, it was on the way home from Arkansas. St. Louis. Drop off the snake. Go get the snake.

[Brady]

Have fun. Day at the park, then pick the snake.

[John Holmberg]

Here's the fun question. What did you name it? I didn't name the snake Bitey. You didn't have to.

[Brady]

No, I didn't have a name for it.

[John Holmberg]

When you dropped it off at Six Flags, you didn't have to tell the guy its name.

[Brady]

No. And the best part is we made the cage out of what? Wood? And then a top screen thing with a door.

[John Holmberg]

All right.

[Brett Vesely]

How do we lose the Christmas music?

[John Holmberg]

I don't get it.

[Brady]

I mean, wow.

[John Holmberg]

And your dad's like, go get your snake. We're heading home.

[Brady]

My dad was fine with it. My mom was just. We were talking about a couple weeks ago because you know the legendary story of Bunny says. Or. I had a. I had a black snake. Not poisonous.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

But it got out of the cage. And the cleaning lady. Where'd you find that favorite cleaning lady opens the door to go to the basement and there's a black snake on the. People didn't even stop. Ran. And we never heard from her again.

[John Holmberg]

Your house is a. It's Indiana Jones. Where'd you find the black snake?

[Brady]

In Sugar Grove, Ohio. In a barn.

[Guest]

The bad area.

[Brett Vesely]

Toledo.

[Texter or Caller]

How did. How did you not end up working for or with Jack?

[John Holmberg]

Hannah.

[Texter or Caller]

I know he's a friend of the family's.

[John Holmberg]

Like, we gotta get you away from the animals. Because he take all the zoo animals home. He's not allowed to touch them. That's like putting Brady in a kitchen. You're gonna lose product.

[Brady]

You.

[Commercial Announcer]

I just think you missed your calling.

[John Holmberg]

You should have Been in front of the. No, he didn't.

[Texter or Caller]

The San Diego Zoo or somewhere.

[John Holmberg]

He's the least. He catches the least interesting ones, the chuckwallas, the squirrels. Poisonous snake is pretty stupid. And your dad's like, load it up. Let's go. Kids in the wagon. You had copperhead brother, sister in a homemade box.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

What in the mother f. That is crazy.

[Brady]

I also brought a black widow home, same hall.

[John Holmberg]

Why?

[Brady]

Kept in a jaw drawer.

[John Holmberg]

You had a poisonous snake and a black. You're a serial killer.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Why?

[Brady]

No, I'm not a serial.

[John Holmberg]

You could have been.

[Texter or Caller]

Said every serial killer.

[John Holmberg]

That's creepy. I'm just talking about Peanut, the squirrel. This is nothing compared to what you were doing. So would you have been upset if the authorities came by and euthanized your poisonous snake? How long did the.

[Brady]

Hour or two.

[John Holmberg]

How long did the poisonous snake last at your house?

[Brady]

Like, I didn't know my dad was gonna do that when I left, you know?

[John Holmberg]

Did he eat it or something?

[Brady]

No, because we. We would go to Arkansas to where my cousin's cabin were up in the Ozarks.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Brady]

And they would have copperheads. They come out at night on this. On the warm road.

[John Holmberg]

The cousins or the copperheads. Okay.

[Brady]

And we would get them out of the area. We used to just go copperhead hunting.

[John Holmberg]

You just move them up for like a city service. There were that many that you just kick them off the street, get maybe.

[Brady]

You know, like if we were there for two weeks, probably get eight. You kill them heads, a couple of rattlesnakes.

[John Holmberg]

But you'd kill them.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, and then. And then just because a lot of.

[Brady]

Times, one time where they lived, they had an outhouse.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

And there was a couple of times they were curled up in the outhouse when you.

[John Holmberg]

The cousin.

[Brady]

The copperheads.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, okay. Both cousins, probably out there with the camera.

[Brady]

Kept him away from the farms.

[Texter or Caller]

John, I don't know if you follow spongebob or know the actual character development of the show.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Texter or Caller]

But Brady is the live above water version of spongebob.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. When he dries up.

[Texter or Caller]

Because my dad would have slapped the hell out of me for bringing a venomous snake in the car to travel across multiple states.

[John Holmberg]

We went to Chevalon Lake. Chevron Lake. Is that up north? Chevron or Chevalon?

[Brady]

I think it's Chevron.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know which one it was, but it was cold and it was awful. It was a summer thing. It got really rainy. My dad took the jeep down this hill, and we're all in the water. And this snake just does this dance in the water.

[Guest]

He's like, all right, everybody get out of goddamn water.

[John Holmberg]

Like, he freaked out. You don't touch one. Brady would have caught it and taken it home. Yeah, there's no. Wow. That's different. Anyway, so you. So the authorities come by, euthanize your. Your wild animals.

[Brady]

The squirrel, I would have been upset.

[John Holmberg]

And the squirrel needed to be outside, right?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. You didn't keep him in the house? No. You took him in, though.

[Brady]

We did not. I took the. My grandfather's, you know, attic had the raccoons. I did take the raccoon and brought it in the house.

[John Holmberg]

Did the raccoon fight back?

[Brady]

No.

[John Holmberg]

It didn't at all.

[Brady]

No, because it was a baby.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, you stole a baby from a litter?

[Brady]

Well, because the mother was trapped. The mother got trapped and removed. And I. I asked if I could have the babies. One of the kids.

[John Holmberg]

And who told you? Yes, that was okay?

[Brady]

Torp.

[John Holmberg]

Your dad?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Can I have a baby raccoon? Sure. What's the worst that can happen? Rabies. And then you raise that from a pup? £25, and it became a thing. And then what? You had to.

[Brady]

Then we let it go. At old Doc Trappenhagen's farm.

[John Holmberg]

It was eaten, like, the next day.

[Brady]

No. Had to, Rachel. This is the story. So he.

[John Holmberg]

You were told a story, Brady.

[Commercial Announcer]

Like a little Mark Twain.

[John Holmberg]

No, this will be the thing that the old man. Trapper farmer. Was his name Dr. Trappen. Dr. Trappenhagen. Don't worry about old Rachel. She's king of the raccoons.

[Brady]

No, he. We let her go in the woods, figuring she'd just go off. Well, she did go off in the woods, but about one in the morning. Trappenhagen's room. No, this was about a week later, after we let her go.

[John Holmberg]

I ain't with you, Brett.

[Brady]

Scraping on the sliding glass doors, trying.

[John Holmberg]

To get back in. People feed him.

[Brady]

She's starving. So he puts a bowl of food out.

[John Holmberg]

Brilliant.

[Brady]

Does it for a while. And then all of a sudden, no more Rachel. No more Rachel. And about five months later, scratching on the door opens it up. Rachel plus five. How do you know she brought her babies up there?

[Texter or Caller]

You're a goddamn Hallmark movie yourself.

[John Holmberg]

Don't make it pretty. That might not have been Rachel. How do you know?

[Brady]

It's just, while they're smart raccoons.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, but you're not. Because it could have been any raccoon in the world.

[Brady]

That just most likely.

[John Holmberg]

Why?

[Brady]

Well, they. Well, you could identify Rachel.

[John Holmberg]

How so?

[Brady]

It's snow.

[John Holmberg]

Brett.

[Brady]

Don't they all look alike?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Brady]

She has a name tag. Stop that. They don't. Once you get to know the raccoons are definitely.

[John Holmberg]

All right, you're making it worse for him.

[Guest]

I gotta go.

[John Holmberg]

You can identify different woodland creatures. I'm not even gonna say the word different woodland creatures.

[Brady]

Sure, they'll differ.

[John Holmberg]

You know which is what.

[Commercial Announcer]

No, I don't.

[John Holmberg]

Stop it. You shut up over there. You could tell me right now if I saw raccoons and then a week later you identify them again.

[Brady]

You know, if you spent time with one raccoon and then two raccoons are in the room, you could sometimes identify the difference.

[Commercial Announcer]

What other things?

[John Holmberg]

7:10 everybody got an email from a guy who has his roommate sleeping under his bed. I'll get you that. We don't need to deal with Brady stories anymore.

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[John Holmberg]

Anyway, my story is, who are we talking about, right? Peanut. Peanut the squirrel.

[Texter or Caller]

How about this?

[John Holmberg]

It's the right thing to do to kill Peanut the squirrel. I hate to say that, and I know that girls and Brady's of the world think it's a terrible thing, but you gotta. If your neighbors are keeping rodents in the house, a. The people who I don't like. I'm with Brett on this one. You don't rat him out until there's like a danger. But if the squirrel's out and he's drooling or he's foaming up, you just like, they gotta. We got a squirrel issue here. And they're keeping it in the house.

[Brady]

Didn't sound like he was.

[John Holmberg]

I know, but they're putting it on their Instagram. Look, here's the thing. The neighbors are tired of these people in the first place. They're only fans naked a lot. They're great looking. They're on the Internet. Shut up. They're on the Internet constantly with their squirrel and their raccoon, Fred. And so the neighbors, like, I hate these people. So they. They ratted them out, essentially, is what happened. Then the authorities show up and they kill the two animals in the house. And that's the right thing to do. I'm not a huge fan.

[Brady]

Like, when. I mean, how about if a dog bites the neighbor?

[John Holmberg]

We're not talking about dogs. That's a. That's a pet. You find a squirrel outside. No.

[Brett Vesely]

Brady makes them all pets, though.

[Brady]

Squirrels are pets.

[John Holmberg]

No, they're not. No, they're not. They don't have squirrel stores. There's nothing at the Humane Society. No. If I go to. If I like today, it's like, hey, today's pick of the litter is squirrely McNuts. You're not adopting it. People. They put that down. That's a rat. That is not.

[Brady]

I don't know what the.

[John Holmberg]

Don't comp it to those. Well, it's woodland creatures who. Who may have rabies or some sort of weird disease that eats out of the garbage. And you're keeping it in your house with other people. It's not going to work out real well. I think the proper thing to do is to kill it once it's had that much human contact because you can't put it back. It's been wearing cowboy hats. It can't go back.

[Brady]

Yeah, you know, it's like a.

[John Holmberg]

It's like a homosexual wearing cowboy hats and chaps and stuff. You try to make them straight again, it's not gonna work. You can't put him back in the wild. He's done. So you go into the house, you go, you can't keep rats. You find. Give me that. And you put a needle in it. And unfortunately, Instagram made him cute. But that doesn't change the facts that you just were keeping a couple of your face.

[Guest]

Like, well, what about dogs?

[John Holmberg]

That's not even close to the same argument.

[Texter or Caller]

This texture says, God damn it, John. Enough with the squirrel. I'm on the edge of my goddamn seat here.

[John Holmberg]

This is fascinating. Back to the chubby wildlife. It's true. He's not wrong. Let's get back to what else you've stolen from the woods and put in your mother's coffee and traveled across the area.

[Guest]

You gotta get this thing over a few states.

[Commercial Announcer]

How many state laws did you break there?

[John Holmberg]

A ton. And that's just terrible. Like, you think you're a wildlife guy, but that's the ecosystem. It's dangerous.

[Brett Vesely]

Like smoking a bandit over here.

[John Holmberg]

You can't take that elephant squirrel across the state lines. What was that thing's name? Charlotte. Yeah. You can't take that elephant across country like that Dom DeLuise. He's shaped like him.

[Texter or Caller]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

The squirrel isn't doing okay, jj. Well, that was Cannonball. He was an Italian for no reason. And in the second, smoking. Yeah, you can't do that. You can't do that. And don't listen to Brady. He's shrugging his shoulder.

[Guest]

Dogs are no different.

[John Holmberg]

They are absolutely wild.

[Brett Vesely]

You can't go on Chewy and order.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Anything for your squirrel.

[John Holmberg]

Peace out, bitches. That's all. That's all you need. That was it. That's the win right there. Chewy doesn't. I don't have squirrel insurance. If I tried to call, you know, my pet insurance company go, I got a new squirrel, they'd be like, so what? I want to insure it for its medical needs. I'm like, medical needs? The only thing you need to do is put it down. Why do you stop handling rodents? So I am a. I think it's cute. I think it's adorable that these only fans porn people were dressing a squirrel up and making it do stuff. And they had it trained, and it was his best friend. But bottom line is you're not allowed to have pet rats. Well, you are, but you shouldn't. Look, I'll tell you this, okay? Shut up. Zip it. You're allowed to have pet rats if you're insane. But sugar gliders aren't at the park. They were made for people.

[Brady]

No, they weren't made for people.

[Commercial Announcer]

Where did they come from?

[John Holmberg]

They have become domesticated.

[Brady]

Where were they before all pets?

[John Holmberg]

No, no, they were like Peru and some jackass you put it in the back of a box you made and drove it all the way across Mexico into Ohio. And now all of a sudden they're selling them here. They shouldn't be here at all.

[Brady]

Look, I mean, everything is.

[John Holmberg]

Don't look me.

[Brady]

What have we done with dogs?

[John Holmberg]

That is not a valid argument.

[Brady]

We've created.

[John Holmberg]

Of course we have years. We domesticated dogs older.

[Brady]

No, it eventually had to start. Thousands of wild animals.

[John Holmberg]

It did.

[Brady]

And we domesticated thousands of years ago. Yeah, we can.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

So you're trying.

[John Holmberg]

You're saying what?

[Brady]

We need to do that. I'm just saying that to say. Oh, that's completely different.

[John Holmberg]

It is completely different. We're not talking about BC squirrels. Talk about today. It is not normal. And you can't use the argument to say, what about dogs? You have to start somewhere. You don't domesticate wild animals and then start saying, well, we did it with dogs. It's just not normal.

[Brady]

Why would man. It's just. Man.

[John Holmberg]

What's stopping you from grabbing a mountain lion?

[Brady]

People not touch with him.

[John Holmberg]

I know they have.

[Brady]

Sure they have.

[John Holmberg]

They tried to grab a mountain lion as a pet.

[Brady]

Not the babies.

[John Holmberg]

What?

[Texter or Caller]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Look at how many.

[John Holmberg]

They're shocked.

[Brady]

Look how many people. And I don't. And I say it's wrong, but how many people that have cats that turn into mountain lions that have a mountain lion cub? There's a. There's one on the Internet, on Instagram.

[John Holmberg]

A mountain lion weighs like 500 pounds.

[Brady]

Full size mountain lion. Yeah, but this is a.

[John Holmberg]

The authorities would step in on that.

[Guest]

I stole it as a kitten and now he's a 500 pound wild beast. But he's sweet.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody'd allow that.

[Commercial Announcer]

No.

[John Holmberg]

If you had a neighbor that had a mountain lion, it's like we've had him since he was a kid, so we're good. You'd call the authorities. Things gonna eat a kid.

[Brady]

Those people have applied for a license and they don't approve that anymore. Because we have a problem with that.

[Texter or Caller]

We do.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Mountain lioness.

[Brady]

Well, between, you know, lions and tigers.

[John Holmberg]

We Have a problem with that. I know the population you're talking about. You're talking about African and Indian lions and tigers being brought over as. Not as pets. They've domesticated them already. I'm talking about. No, no, no. I'm talking about finding one.

[Brady]

Oh. And taking it out.

[John Holmberg]

Yes. Yeah, yeah. You're talking about this weird. I know. Brett. I don't know how this happens to me either.

[Brett Vesely]

Vader wants you to take a shovel away because he keeps digging deeper and deeper on this one.

[John Holmberg]

You can't compare it, is what I'm saying. You can't comp. Find in a wild animal and raising it to, you know, some.

[Brady]

You know, getting it from a guy that.

[Byron]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Who raised them and bred them for this. And they've never been in the wild and they have to be hand fed. And even then, Siegfried and Roy are probably the best at it. Still, one of them made them. Yep.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Texter or Caller]

Because the cats. Because the tigers aren't allowed to have a bad day.

[John Holmberg]

No. All days must not allow to have a. Cats have a bad day. Don't say that. That's. Dogs and tigers are not comparable on bad days.

[Brett Vesely]

No.

[Brady]

No. One's way more powerful than the other.

[Commercial Announcer]

Right.

[Brady]

And you're not handled.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Brady]

Has turned.

[John Holmberg]

And what happens to the dog?

[Brady]

That's what I was asking.

[John Holmberg]

State finds out about it. They put it down.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I had a friend with a Jack Russell terrier that bit a kid in the neighborhood and put his Jack Russell down. It was like £11. He bit a child.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And when the. When the neighbors said, I want it put down, there's nothing you can do.

[Brady]

So did Peanut bite anybody?

[John Holmberg]

Peanut is a rat someone found. Put a cowboy hat on it and wrecked it forever. Brett, help me out here, buddy. Come on.

[Brett Vesely]

I'm speechless.

[Texter or Caller]

Get on the last texter.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, f. Off.

[Texter or Caller]

John, if you don't like rodents as a pet, don't have a effing rodent as a pep.

[Brady]

Right.

[Texter or Caller]

Don't you condone the government coming in and taking your pet and goddamn killing it? Did you condone that?

[John Holmberg]

I'm condoning that. They came in and took it away and had to use it. Peanut did nothing. You're right. But Peanut shouldn't be in and amongst people because he was wild.

[Brady]

If it did something, and if those.

[John Holmberg]

People have to have boundaries, we have to have boundaries. Where you can't just go out in this in the park and go, look what I found and take it home. You just can't. There has to be boundaries. I think there are of course. Which is. Which. I don't know where that was, but I know for a fact there are, and that's why Peanut isn't alive. So the debate of Peanut nuts out for Peanut is funny. I like that. You know, Dick's out for Harambee, nuts out for Peanut. That's great. But people asking me online, what do you. How do you feel at the Peanut thing? Isn't awful. Like, it is awful because we. We made him cute. If you didn't do tricks, no one would have cared that someone put down a guy's squirrel. They'd be like, what does a guy have a squirrel in his house for? But because they had him in a cowboy hat, all of a sudden, there's an outrage. That's it.

[Texter or Caller]

John. I know she gets a lot of guff, but can we give a little appreciation to Ronnie right now for not having a house full of owls? Chuck Wallace. Snakes and spiders.

[John Holmberg]

We have to say that's exactly Ronnie. You're doing God's work over there keeping this thing in order. Because if it wasn't for. For. It would look like the.

[Brady]

The.

[John Holmberg]

The lobby of the Bates Motel, except for they'd all be alive. Hoot, hoot, hoot, hoot. Yeah, I don't. Yeah. This is not. You can't just go and grab a squirrel and say, this is a pet now, and put a cowboy hat on.

[Texter or Caller]

John, I for one, disagree with.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. This guy says, john, you're off base. Currently, right now, there's 20,000 big cats in private, small zoos. I didn't say that. I'm making the comp to say find it and keep it.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

That's not small zoos. That's not domestication. And it doesn't.

[Brady]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

Just because we're 50 generations in with wolves who are a canine.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

And we can't breed it out of them. It's very dangerous to have a wolf. Even if they're like 50 generations, they're not good. You can get a few that you're like, okay, but they're still wolves. Like, deep down, they're like. They'll go wolf. It's the same as Siegfried and Roy's tigers. Like, yeah, but, you know, so.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not saying you can't have a tiger. I don't think you should. But it's. It's a problem because there's people breeding them for that very reason. And people shouldn't own tigers, period. End of story.

[Texter or Caller]

John, I don't know if, you know Green Valley park up in Payson But I go fishing up there a lot. And there's a guy walking his pet gray wolf around.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, that happens all the time.

[Texter or Caller]

I think he's related to Brady.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, that happens all the time. This guy says, john, this is your worst take of all time. I hope you're 511 tomorrow morning. Maybe I will be. But that squirrel deserved the needle, and I'll say so all day. I don't even know what Fred the raccoon was doing, but they nabbed him and they needled his ass too. And you know whose fault it is, those people for grabbing stuff out of the park and taking it home and making. You can't do it. We have to have boundaries. You have to have boundaries. If you had a neighbor that started just mop up animals he found and is in the backyard, you're like, oh, you got a problem? Oh, you got rodents, rats.

[Brady]

I'd be over there a lot.

[John Holmberg]

You would be over there a lot. And then like, Rachel, you're a raccoon on it. You got six of them now. Now what? It's not a bad take. Peanut needed to go.

[Brett Vesely]

Apparently it was not. It's not legal to keep wildlife anyway.

[Brady]

So it technically was illegal.

[John Holmberg]

So you go when the neighbors say, hey, you can't have those. And they're like, yes, we can. We put it on. It's got a cowboy hat, so it's okay.

[Brady]

But I'm sure there's some people just like, I mean, that would take it, you know, that have the animal rescue.

[John Holmberg]

There's probably a sanctuary or something like that. But once this. Once this.

[Brady]

Because they can use it for education.

[John Holmberg]

Once the animal control gets involved, they're not dealing with sanctuaries. They're putting her down.

[Brady]

And that's what this.

[John Holmberg]

We got loads of these. This guy says, time for this.

[Texter or Caller]

Here's the issue as I have just read it. Peanut was an illegally owned animal that the guy tried to release, but it came back, so he decided to keep it. When the cops came to collect it, the squirrel bit one of them and the agency freaked out and killed it so they could test it for rabies.

[John Holmberg]

I didn't know that.

[Texter or Caller]

Stop collecting wild animals, right?

[John Holmberg]

Brady looking at you, leave them be. Like, I see squirrels and stuff. I'm like, that's adorable. Leave it. Those big fluffy ones that hit the trees, they're cute as a button, but they're rats. They're just pretty rats there. So he just sent us. Cartman is Coon is his superhero. And they just put Brady's face on raccoon Stop it and don't defend it. And nobody's ever found a mountain lion in the woods and raised it and kept it. Once you about. About four months into that, you're like, this isn't a cat at all.

[Brady]

Most of the time they get it from a breeder. And again, it's. The breeding needs to stop talking about that.

[John Holmberg]

We're talking about just finding one of them up in the wild again. My ex wife had a cat named Herbie that she found at the river as a kitten. I went to her house and Herbie wasn't a cat. And I knew it immediately because Herbie was not nice to anyone but her. Herbie was a lynx. Herbie was about 61 pounds. This thing was fierce. It would run on the walls like it was a velodrome. Like it was like. Like roller derby place. It was. I'd come over and I'd have to stand with my hands at my side and close my eyes and hope to God Herbie didn't disembowel me. Today as I tried to take this lady out for dinner at the Olive Garden, I just stood there while Herbie flipped the F out. Herbie had to go to the vet once, and the vet looked in the cage. I'm not treating that. What is that? I'm like, it's a lynx. She thinks it's a house cat.

[Guest]

I found him at the river.

[John Holmberg]

It was half house cat, half lynx.

[Brady]

Something.

[John Holmberg]

How hot was she? It was Geneva. It was the ex wife. It's a good looking. I'm with you. I didn't know you felt that way about it. No, you should.

[Brett Vesely]

You should have known right there.

[John Holmberg]

I should have known right there. Lunatic. I didn't know they were gonna be exes. I thought it was adorable. That is a red flag.

[Commercial Announcer 2]

Brady's right.

[John Holmberg]

I'll tell you this. At the time Herbie was around, I was like, she's really hot. I'll tolerate her links for two. Two nights. And then I told you, can't have this thing anymore.

[Guest]

You think he's bad?

[John Holmberg]

I think he's a wild. Where did you find him?

[Guest]

We were out on User Repass.

[John Holmberg]

That's a lynx that you found a wild cat and you took it home. You're an idiot. And Brady's like, but you should have.

[Guest]

Because he needed help.

[Brady]

Your lynx is eating a poodle right now.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. No, the lynx was eating your boyfriend. Like, I had to be careful that this cat didn't eat me. I was worried. I couldn't have fought it there's not a single ounce of self defense I had for this length of speed. The thing came out, and we should have loft one day. I'm sitting on the couch and I just heard noise and flies across the room, hits the wall and starts running sideways, defying gravity for about an hour.

[Texter or Caller]

The wall, mind you, at what, 50 pounds?

[John Holmberg]

Oh. At that point, Herbie was 38, 40 pounds, man. And hitting walls.

[Guest]

Bonk.

[John Holmberg]

This noise and this. And he flies by with these razor blade hands, like, ah. And I just sat on the couch, scared to death.

[Guest]

Herbie, stop.

[John Holmberg]

When it purred, it was like an engine running. Sitting on her lap like, that cat's gonna kill me.

[Guest]

He's so sweet.

[John Holmberg]

Just looking at her with those big, huge ears with the fur on top of them.

[Brady]

Nice.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, not nice.

[Brady]

Not nice.

[John Holmberg]

Scary is beautiful scary.

[Texter or Caller]

God damn it, John. I love this show. I've been listening for 30 minutes now, and I've basically boiled down Brady's argument is that he's on the cutting edge of domestication.

[John Holmberg]

Right. He's the one who's gonna do it. He's the pioneer.

[Guest]

I'm gonn these squirrels and generations of their past, and I'm gonna breed it out of them.

[Commercial Announcer]

Start now.

[Guest]

No different than dogs.

[Brady]

People are gonna have cobras in their house.

[John Holmberg]

The original dog situation was literally thousands of years ago. Anyway.

[Guest]

He likes you.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not moving. Not moving. Not moving.

[Guest]

Herbie likes your pet Herbie.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not touching Herbie. Herbie's gonna take. And there were claw marks about six feet up on the side of the wall. This Herbie could hit it. Like, he's running around the whole house.

[Brett Vesely]

It's like in a circus where those motorcycles are going around and around.

[John Holmberg]

If I. If I came over, I'm like, where's the cat? First words.

[Brady]

Hi.

[John Holmberg]

Where's the cat?

[Guest]

It's in the loft.

[John Holmberg]

I'm not coming in. That's.

[Brady]

He's like, kato sees the glowing eyes.

[Commercial Announcer]

Oh.

[John Holmberg]

At nighttime, that thing would sit and stare at stuff. Like, you wanted to kill everything. So, no, I was the one who had to come in and say, you've got yourself a wild animal here. And sure enough, the vet's like, yeah, this is no good. I don't know what happened to Herbie. I think she gave it to her mom, and her mom did something like.

[Brady]

In here from her mom.

[John Holmberg]

Humane. No. Her mom showed up with one eye. I got rid of Herbie. Yeah. So, no, Brady, we don't have a problem. We do not have an issue with people finding mountain lion cubs and taking them home because it's a three month process to realize this isn't a cat. Once my cat hit 140 pounds, I started to get a little nervous. He's not done growing. His hands are bigger than mine. I think I should put him back. So we do have to have a rule. You find it. You're over at Granada park and you nab something out of a tree. It isn't a pet. You're just an I don't care if you put a cowboy hat on it or not. Make it ski. It's still a wild animal that you shouldn't have done that.

[Brady]

Leave nature in nature.

[John Holmberg]

Let it be like don't native Native Americans don't do that. They don't steal it out of a tree and put a cowboy hat on it. I guess it wouldn't be a cowboy hat.

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[John Holmberg]

How come Indians don't have that? That would be an. I would watch that Instagram page if a Native American stole a squirrel and put a headdress on it, Made it do stuff anyway. Brady, stop it.

[Brady]

I have. Well, I haven't pulled anything out of nature and had it for a pet.

[John Holmberg]

Because you realize how wrong it was.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. There you go. Then why do you defend it? We went round and round and you're sitting there telling me it's okay.

[Brady]

I'm just saying, it just sounded weird that there wasn't details. We finally got the details.

[John Holmberg]

Well, the details are you have a squirrel. You're not allowed to have a squirrel. People are like, I'm getting, oh, you can't.

[Brady]

And I didn't know that.

[John Holmberg]

You're all just kind of.

[Brady]

I didn't know the details. Like, did they have a squirrel?

[John Holmberg]

The details don't matter. You can't have a squirrel. You can't steal a squirrel from the woods, even if it's got a broken foot and put it in your house. That's just not something you should do.

[Texter or Caller]

Brady, for the love of your Jesus, I hope you never get in trouble with the law and have to to be put in front of a jury, because you're screwed, my man. You are too honest.

[Guest]

Well, sure, I would keep that.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, boy, here we go.

[Guest]

He had a busted foot. I had to save his life.

[Brady]

We did. We did a couple of catch and releases growing up.

[John Holmberg]

Why?

[Brady]

There's an owl that had a wing that was damaged. Let him go. He's fine.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I don't even understand why, though. Just let it be. If I had an owl that had a wing damaged, I might take him down to the sanctuary for birds, which.

[Brady]

Should have been done. It was Muckrat Ray again.

[John Holmberg]

You guys took it to a basement.

[Brady]

Muckrat Ray did a catch and release on an owl and a crow.

[John Holmberg]

What in the living do you do with a Broken owl. You can't take care of yourself. What are you doing to a broken owl? Did you put it in a well? It's busted.

[Brady]

Muckrat Ray figured out a splint on the wing.

[John Holmberg]

With what? Popsicle sticks. He probably made the owl worse.

[Brady]

Well, it flew away.

[John Holmberg]

Of course it did. It was running from the people. The way it's designed, after a couple of weeks. Yeah, because it probably wasn't broken in the first place. You were just sticking popsicle sticks on an owl's arm. You do the decent thing. It's broken. You catch it, you kill it and you fillet it.

[Brady]

We did that a lot.

[John Holmberg]

It's the right thing to do. How about you just leave it be also Brett. I don't like that you're so quiet over here, John.

[Texter or Caller]

You know it pisses me off. Where are all these bleeding hearts? When about this squirrel? When a dog needs a home, don't see him there. Go get the dog. Leave the squirrel alone.

[John Holmberg]

Put a cowboy hat on a dog. They love it. They need us.

[Guest]

Squirrels are fine without us.

[John Holmberg]

If we all died tomorrow, you know who would be okay with it?

[Brady]

Squirrels.

[John Holmberg]

You know who'd be a mess? Dogs.

[Texter or Caller]

Another guy says. Wait a second. Didn't Muckrat Ray cut the heads off cats?

[Brady]

No, that was.

[John Holmberg]

No, that was his other friend, Andy Lestock. That was Andy. Let's talk lawn mowers and cat head.

[Brady]

Yeah, Matt Dimmel.

[John Holmberg]

You all should have been in jail.

[Brady]

No one confirmed that. But less dog. You confirmed it.

[John Holmberg]

Didn't you tell us that. That he buried cats from their bodies down and then let's talk them. Yeah, let's talk. And he's dead now, right?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, because he's nuts. He was the one who was killed.

[Brady]

He also was shooting state birds collection. Put a bird feeder up in his backyard to lure him in.

[John Holmberg]

Cardinals. Yeah, and had like a 500 bucks a bird. Piles of cardinals.

[Brady]

Check it out. 50 of them, Brett.

[Texter or Caller]

Oh my God. We didn't have these lifestyles, John. Yeah, I for one understand what Brady is saying. Because as someone who has gotten 150, 150 fine in Dewey for taking a wounded mountain lion cub.

[Commercial Announcer]

What are you doing?

[Texter or Caller]

We have one. We have a list.

[John Holmberg]

I'm just turning to me now. Sebastian.

[Guest]

What's wrong with these people? What the hell's going on?

[John Holmberg]

Aren't you embarrassed?

[Guest]

You gotta watch. Got a mountain lion in your house.

[John Holmberg]

You're an idiot. Well, you found a mountain lion. I better take care of that. What are you doing? Wow. You're not fixing that and 150 bucks. We need to boost that fine a little.

[Brady]

Yeah, we do.

[Texter or Caller]

If the fine for HOV Lane is.

[John Holmberg]

$400 to drive in the wrong LA. 150 to.

[Brady]

Let me tell you first of all, thank you. And I. I'm still gotta write you a ticket.

[John Holmberg]

What do you got here, Jeff? I found this mountain. I'm nursing him back to health.

[Brady]

150.

[John Holmberg]

What are you the biggest more on the planet? I think it might be actually. Here's 150. Get rid of the mountain. What do you got to kill that thing? Oh my dear sweet Jesus.

[Brady]

All the wildlife.

[John Holmberg]

Anyway, that's my take care. That's my take on peanuts.

[Brady]

Fishing. Fishing game.

[John Holmberg]

Right. And I didn't realize we had something stupider than a squirrel sitting in the room with us.

[Texter or Caller]

Grizzly boat.

[Brady]

No.

[Texter or Caller]

See what you're wishing for here texter has already happened. Grizzly bogan needs to bring pets in.

[Commercial Announcer]

Like show and tell.

[Brady]

You've done that.

[John Holmberg]

I don't want that. Well, one of the show and tell pets was a black lady he took to school. We all remember Olive.

[Guest]

Can I take her to show and tell? Is a real authentive that. What are you a tribes person?

[John Holmberg]

I am your maid, Brady.

[Guest]

I can't understand it. All the clicks and buttons and whistles.

[Brady]

Olive was from Africa.

[John Holmberg]

I know she was. And you took her to show and tell. Did she live with?

[Brady]

She brought an ostrich egg with her. Showed the.

[John Holmberg]

You just had one handy.

[Brady]

She gave it a.

[Texter or Caller]

Century.

[Guest]

Ostrich egg. Get your ostrich egg and your map of your village. You're coming with me.

[John Holmberg]

This is not mine.

[Guest]

I give it to you. The kids will love it.

[Brady]

Trust me.

[Guest]

They're going to eat this up.

[John Holmberg]

Why did she have an ostrich?

[Brady]

She brought it as a gift for my parents.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, from Africa?

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

That's all she had.

[Brady]

Well, she brought it and it was had a painting on it.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, it's like a Nigerian tamale. Yeah, poor person gift.

[Brady]

I found it pretty nice ostrich's egg.

[John Holmberg]

And I gave it to. Was it a full hollowed out? Okay, so she poked a hole in it, drained it, probably ate it.

[Brady]

Oh yeah. And then painted just a jumbo fried.

[John Holmberg]

Egg, painted a couple crackers on it and then gave it to your parents.

[Brett Vesely]

Like you're gonna inherit that one day.

[Brady]

My mom still has.

[John Holmberg]

Of course she does. It's a shellac too.

[Brady]

It's not shellack. It's just paint. You don't have to. No, no.

[John Holmberg]

I'm just saying like they had to harden the egg so it doesn't break over time.

[Brady]

Oh, no, you don't have to.

[John Holmberg]

You took Olives second grade, right?

[Brady]

Get them. You know, I cooked one at the Wildlife World Zoo.

[John Holmberg]

Cooked out an African?

[Brady]

No, the egg.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, I see. Okay.

[Brady]

And that shell is very hard. Right off the bat. Right off. You don't even have to do anything.

[John Holmberg]

I didn't ask. That's a crazy story. But second grade is when Olive showed up at your house. Thereabouts. Right. Please tell me it's not older than seventh grade.

[Brady]

Fifth grade.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, it was 10. Close.

[Brady]

I was three. Two.

[John Holmberg]

You've been a great guest. Thanks for coming on.

[Commercial Announcer]

Fifth grade, show and tell.

[John Holmberg]

Fifth grade, show and tell. You brought a black.

[Guest]

Got one of these hanging around the house.

[Texter or Caller]

I'm not sure it was show and tell.

[Commercial Announcer]

I think you asked.

[John Holmberg]

Did you tell her? This is the first I'm hearing about the egg.

[Guest]

But who gets your egg?

[John Holmberg]

This is my egg. I cleaned the house for the white people.

[Brady]

Wow.

[Guest]

Like right out of the pages of Nat Geo.

[Brady]

She has a copy.

[Guest]

Did you sign my copy? Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Do you search the pages for.

[Guest]

There you are.

[Commercial Announcer]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

No, that is not me.

[Guest]

How about that one?

[John Holmberg]

That's you.

[Guest]

Take your shirt off, you got some hangers.

[John Holmberg]

But is also not me.

[Guest]

You gotta be in here somewhere. I thought you were the COVID model.

[Brady]

She's beautiful. Sure, but it doesn't matter. Whoever the guest was at the time from a different part of the world there they would have been coming to show and Tell. Well, basically, for geography.

[John Holmberg]

Okay. Well.

[Brady]

It was a good look. Oliver and I walk into school. Good look for who? Hand in hand.

[John Holmberg]

I gotta go home. This day's over. I don't wanna be here anymore. Sorry. Park's closed, folks. We're going, we're out. I've known the man for nearly 30 years.

[Brady]

There's always a revelation.

[John Holmberg]

It's always a thing. I even knew the Olive story. The eggs knew.

[Guest]

I told him.

[Texter or Caller]

I don't remember.

[John Holmberg]

He's, like, glossing her around.

[Guest]

Hey, go get your egg.

[Brady]

You're not going to school on that.

[John Holmberg]

The egg was a gift for your parents.

[Guest]

Get your goddamn African egg and follow me to school. We don't have these things in Columbus.

[John Holmberg]

Gee.

[Brady]

Enough.

[Guest]

Enough clickety clack with your words. Follow me to school. Get in your wagon.

[John Holmberg]

I'm taking you to school. She just sat in the corner of the room.

[Commercial Announcer]

Behold.

[Brady]

Showstopper.

[Guest]

Most of the time, you people only.

[John Holmberg]

See this on tv.

[Brady]

Top that, people.

[Guest]

But thanks to me, I brought a real live one. Here we got a live one. And she brought their culinary delight. A big egg with my parents painted on it.

[Brady]

She signed 32.

[John Holmberg]

National Geographic Guarantee it for. She's a hero. Yep. All right, I'm done talking to you. This is not the show I planned. I always have. Look, I always have a rough draft in my head of where we're gonna go that no clue. We were heading that way and I've just.

[Brady]

That's your sketch.

[John Holmberg]

Some of that story. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It just sketches me constantly. That'll do it. You guys have a nice strong nights coming up. If Larry's not sick anymore, maybe Larry's next. We're just gonna play just loads and loads of ghost and stuff on the way out.

[Texter or Caller]

I'll find all the old Brady.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, just give me. That one's new. The egg's new. And I don't know how you told Olive that that was a good idea. I don't want to do this.

[Guest]

Put on your garb.

[Texter or Caller]

Wait a second.

[Guest]

Goddamn egg.

[Texter or Caller]

I heard the initial part of the rant and then I had to leave. I tuned back in to hear Dan did Brady rescue a black woman from.

[Commercial Announcer]

The wild and take her to show and tell.

[John Holmberg]

Broken leg.

[Brady]

And we set her free.

[Guest]

Pull over. There's an African on the side of the road with a busted toe.

[Brady]

Thanks, brave dad. Can I take her home?

[John Holmberg]

Sure. Get her in the back there. Put a cage around it. We'll build a box. Build a box? We gotta go to. She can't go in some. You take her over there to the pet's place and we'll store her there while you and I ride some rides.

[Brady]

Drop her off at the pet.

[John Holmberg]

We'll drop her off at the old. Keep your pets here at the old Kings Island. Hey, we'll ride a couple rides and we'll come back and get yourself your African.

[Commercial Announcer]

Does Disney have that?

[John Holmberg]

Like a place where you can.

[Commercial Announcer]

I don't know.

[Brady]

I wonder. Yeah.

[Guest]

Why would you bring a pet? Forgot we had this.

[John Holmberg]

They have the babysitter. Of course. You have your pet in your car. We'll store it for you.

[Guest]

We don't have a house. We just drive around with all our possessions and then ride rides.

[John Holmberg]

I'm in hell. Yeah. I don't know what's going on.

[Texter or Caller]

The mountain lion cub guy is texted back in. He goes, to be fair, we live out in New river and had plenty of land for it. We were hiking and found it. We took it home, kept it for about two weeks. And then. And then someone called game and fish on Us, it had a broken leg and it was going to die because it couldn't move.

[John Holmberg]

Right.

[Texter or Caller]

Game and Fish gave us a 150 fine and took it away.

[John Holmberg]

Right. And killed it. I hate to break it to you, but your busted mountain lion instead. And probably rightfully so.

[Texter or Caller]

And using the phrase to be fair about my. My captured mountain lion cub is a.

[Commercial Announcer]

Little bit odd, too.

[Brett Vesely]

To be fair.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, to be fair. This guy says, I don't care if this is the show you had planned or not. I'm loving every minute of it. My only question is, how come Brett got so quiet when Brady started talking about that black lady going to school with him? We make him face a different direction when those topics come. Brett's not allowed a microphone at that point. He's just screaming into the ether.

[Brady]

Out.

[John Holmberg]

Outside. We make him do laps. When that happens, play a song.

[Texter or Caller]

Another texter. What do we got? God bless America.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, I know. How do we lose to Christmas music? We got this crap going. You know, the.

[Commercial Announcer]

We don't tell these stories in December.

[John Holmberg]

Apparently, the world's oldest mentally challenged boy, and he tells stories, and we just sit in awe.

[Brett Vesely]

I guess the most appropriate one up there is Ozzy's Diary of a Madman for Brady's stories.

[John Holmberg]

Let's do it. Diary. Madman. I'm all over that.

[Guest]

She's got a plate in her lip. Isn't she lucky? You just put the food right there on your own lip. Suck something down for him. No, we'd put it in there. Put that egg on that plate. Balance it. That shirt she's wearing says 1972 Cleveland Browns World champion. Never happened. Ask yourself how she got it. We dumped it on her village.

[John Holmberg]

You made this for me yesterday.

[Guest]

Quiet down, ma'.

[John Holmberg]

Am.

[Guest]

We found her on the side of the road, limping.

[Brady]

Anyway, she went home with some Cincinnati rad stuff.

[John Holmberg]

Did she go back to Africa? Yeah. She didn't stay.

[Brady]

She's there. She couldn't wait, like, three months.

[John Holmberg]

One of the few people that left America for Africa and was grateful. I have got. No one has ever said that I've got to get back to Africa. Never. I miss my village. The warlords were different than these people.

[Guest]

Let me go parade you around the mall for a little bit.

[John Holmberg]

Grab your egg.

[Guest]

Get your goddamn egg.

[Brady]

We're not going anywhere.

[Guest]

We're not going anywhere until you pick up that egg.

[John Holmberg]

Was she there every day? She was at the house every day. She lived there?

[Brady]

Yeah, she live.

[John Holmberg]

We done? You got it? Oh, I was done a while ago. No, I. Yeah, I drank too much last night to deal with this.

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