12-26-25 - Can't Watch The Hoarding And 600Lb Life Shows Anymore Because They're So Disgusting - BO

Summary

Podcast Summary: Holmberg’s Morning Sickness – "Can’t Watch The Hoarding And 600Lb Life Shows Anymore Because They're So Disgusting"

Date: December 26, 2025
Hosts: John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo
Episode Focus: A candid, irreverent group discussion on why hoarding and extreme obesity reality shows (like TLC’s “Hoarders” and “My 600lb Life”) have become almost too revolting to watch, plus reflections on what this all says about people, compassion, and boundaries.

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Episode Overview

The hosts dive into the bizarre, often stomach-turning reality of watching shows like "Hoarders" and "My 600lb Life." With trademark dark comedy and unsparing observations, they explore what makes these programs simultaneously magnetic and repulsive, why some people can’t stomach them, and question the limits of compassion for those caught in these spirals. They also mix in personal anecdotes and listener feedback to contemplate empathy vs. self-preservation, all with their blend of sarcasm and Arizona-styled humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why Hoarding Shows Are Too Much to Handle

• Holmberg admits he can no longer watch entire hoarding shows:
  "I can only watch the last 12 minutes of a hoarding show. I cannot at all watch a hoarding show all the way through. …I get sick for the people that have to clean it." (01:08)

• Describes an episode featuring retirees living surrounded by garbage, where clean-up teams encounter things like leaking syrup and years-old food, making some physically ill:
  "The kid that found that box just started throwing up immediately..." (01:40)

• The hosts find the "reveal" at the end remains unsatisfying—most hoarders relapse within weeks.

• Byron asks about follow-ups; Holmberg hypothesizes most hoarders revert back quickly:
  "I bet you that they don't show too many [follow-ups], because almost all of them are right back at it.” (02:31)

2. Details from Disturbing Hoarder Cases

• Woman saves used kitty litter in boxes under newspapers; clean-up done by well-meaning church friends.
• The hosts are skeptical about unconditional compassion:
  "That's another reason I don't want to be religious is because you gotta pretend to be nice to people like this instead of …this is gross, I'm not talking to them anymore." (02:51)
• Hilarity and horror at having college kids arrive as part of “College Hunks Moving Junk”—one gets sick immediately upon entering (04:13).

3. Transition to “My 600lb Life”

• Holmberg laments that TLC follows Hoarders with “My 600lb Life”:
  "Are you trying to make me shoot myself?" (05:02)

• He details the "Stephanie" episode:

  • Dr. Now’s unvarnished bedside manner.
  • Stephanie’s astonishing food intake vs. minimal weight loss:
    "She comes down there and he gave her a goal of 50 pounds in two months …Gets on the scale, six pounds, she's down." (07:13)

• The hosts riff on enabling family dynamics:

  • Stephanie’s 16-year-old son weighs 400 pounds:
    "I don't want to end up like her. You already are." (08:14)
  • The thought that “somebody her three times and squirted.” (08:20)
  • The cycle of family obesity and parental responsibility.

4. “Taking Care” of Severely Obese Family Members

• Holmberg and Brady joke about the limits of love when it comes to caregiving for the morbidly obese:
  "That's one of the reasons I like not having kids always. …Thank God, because I don't love anything that much." (14:14)
  • The idea of “auto starting the car” and not “showing up for dinner” if your kid balloons.
• The group agrees they'd abandon the role of caregiver before helping someone bathe at 600 pounds:
  "You don't pull the full year down." (14:11)
  "If you have to the day you have to wrap a towel around a stick to wipe your own ass. …Why am I gonna wash you? Why do I need to start scrubbing your ass?" (16:13)

5. The Psychology and (Lack of) Medical Excuses

• Hosts unpack the vicious cycle of “eating for comfort”:
  "You just start realizing it's spiraled out of control. …I'll never lose this. I might as well blow up. Who cares?" (18:10)
• Debate on whether traumas and medical issues (pituitary gland, thyroid) are the real reason for extreme obesity, with consensus that, even so, it's the behavior (eating) that matters most:
  "No doctor's gonna tell you, 'Well, you've been eating great. I don't know how this happened.' You ate it. You did it. …The why you ate it is what you're talking about, but it's the food that made you fat, John." (18:42)

6. Listener and First-Responder Perspectives

• Reads a message from an EMT recalling lifting an extremely obese person and the memory’s lingering effect:
  "We got there and there were pathways to the house with food boxes. The person was so fat called the rescue squad to help us lift her onto the cot. … So the hoarder show makes me physically ill to watch because I always think of that." (11:26)
• Brady and a paramedic listener describe traumatic calls at “cat houses” and helping morbidly obese patients, noting the irony of such women still attempting to flirt, having not seen a man in years:
  "The smells and the things you touch will blow your mind." (19:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Hoarders:
  "All the last couple people that in here said they can't smell my kitties." (04:01) "No, we don't. We need that person to just drop dead and then go in and burn the apartment down. Nobody has to clean it." (03:36)

• On “My 600lb Life”: "You want me to love you enough to clean you? …I don't love anything that much. If you balloon up to like two bills and you're nine, I'm auto starting the car." (14:14) "If you have to the day you have to wrap a towel around a stick to wipe your own ass. …Why am I gonna wash you? …You did this to yourself." (16:13)

• On Medical Excuses: "No doctor's gonna tell you, 'Well, you've been eating great. I don't know how this happened.' You ate it." (18:42)

• On Parental Love: "Kids will either kill you or turn into that." (14:47) "I don't want somebody murdering me, committing a murder, and me having to sit in the courtroom and like Dahmer's dad." (14:52)

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Timestamped Segment Highlights

• 01:08: Start of hoarding discussion; Holmberg’s fleeting tolerance for the shows
• 02:31: Why follow-up episodes are rare
• 04:13: “College Hunks Moving Junk” anecdote
• 05:02: Eye-rolling at back-to-back gross-out programming
• 07:13: Dr. Now’s tough love; Stephanie's six-pound “progress”
• 08:14: Enabling family, fat kids
• 14:14: “Not loving anything that much” - forsaking extreme caregivers
• 16:13: On the towel-on-a-stick benchmark for “too much”
• 18:42: It’s the food, not the childhood, that causes obesity
• 19:39: Listener paramedic horror stories; why first responders hate these calls

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Tone & Language

• Unapologetically blunt and irreverent
• Freely mixes frank disgust, gallows humor, and moments of surprising empathy
• Utilizes dark, punchy Arizona radio banter throughout

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Summary Takeaways

• The hosts’ tolerance for TV programs that showcase extreme hoarding or obesity is shockingly low—less out of disgust for the people and more for the situations and enablers involved.
• They question where the line should be drawn between empathy and enabling, with humor and hyperbole about personal limits.
• Listener input underscores that for first responders, these TV shows hit close to home, sometimes triggering memories of truly disturbing scenes.
• "My 600lb Life" and "Hoarders" spark more existential horror in the hosts than even violent crime shows, leading to musings about caregiving limits, the root causes of obesity, and the burden of loving someone in extreme self-inflicted distress.

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Transcript

[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

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[John Holmberg]

There you have it. MMP Guns or legal. The safe and legal way to sell your firearms. Do not listen to this while driving or when full alertness is needed. The best of Homburg's Morning Sickness. This is the Big Red Radio. I watched a hoarding show last night. Speaking of hoarding a little bit, I realized that I can only watch the last 12 minutes of a hoarding show. I cannot at all, uh oh, I cannot at all watch a hoarding show all the way through. I tried. There was an apartment complex for retirees and three of them were hoarders. And I get sick for the people that have to clean it. I can watch murder. I can watch these hoarding shows. There was a lady who had cans of food that she would just buy and never open and then put them on the ground. And over time, the can would break or something would. Like. She had a thing of syrup and it started to leak out. And the kid that found that box just started throwing up immediately. Immediately puking. I'm like, I can't watch. And then the last 15 minutes, they do the reveal. Like, here's what your place looks like now. It's still hoarded. It's still awful. They won't get rid of anything. One guy Got rid of all of it. And like, within a week I watched he's washing his hands by his sink and then there's a pile of stuff starting right there by the sink. Like, you can't have this show.

[Byron]

And do they do a follow up like months later?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah, I'm sure that they do the hoarding follow.

[Byron]

I mean, because.

[John Holmberg]

But I bet you that they don't show too many of them because almost all of them are right back at it.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

One dude just had had a bunch of unopened stuff he ordered off of QVC vacuums. And like, he'd get like four or five of those and stack. Well, that's valuable stuff. And they were trying to throw it all out or sell it.

[Brady]

I'm selling that ones that they have to crawl over like a pile of newspapers and garbage.

[John Holmberg]

This lady's newspapers were covering up all she. One woman saved her kitty litter. So she'd clean the litter box, but she couldn't part with it. So she was keeping it in. In like. And then covering it with beyond. Oh, it was this. And her and her daughter came in and goes. Or her friends from church came in. And that's another reason I don't want to be religious is because you got to pretend to be nice to people like this instead of. What I would do is go, this is gross. I'm not talking to them anymore. Like they're doing God's work or something. They think that God looks at them like they're better because they went in and helped clean all that toxic poop. I'm not doing that.

[Byron]

We need those people.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. My God wouldn't put me in that position. So yours doesn't.

[Byron]

But we need those people to go in there and help clean.

[John Holmberg]

No, we don't. We need that person to just drop dead and then go in and burn the apartment down.

[Byron]

Regardless.

[John Holmberg]

Nobody has to clean it.

[Brady]

How many are doing that? TV's Doug Hopkins, tons.

[John Holmberg]

He sent. He's talked to me about a few of them. But this lady had the cat poop. And the people from church walked in and goes, oh, smell your cats. And they don't know that the cat poop is hidden all under magazines and boxes and all sorts.

[Byron]

Used to it.

[John Holmberg]

And she goes, oh, the last couple people that in here said they can't smell my kitties. And she goes, it's all ice. It's like burns. And she goes. And then so they interview her on the side. And she goes, well, either my friends who came in here last time were lying or she's just super sensitive. And then the kid from. And they. And the best part was they hired a company called College Hunks Moving junk. And the sign that like all the trucks pull up and then these college kids are standing there kind of decent looking, not great, but. And the one kid puts the mask on and he walks into that lady's apartment immediately. Well, he's sensitive too. I'm like, no, nobody's sensitive. You have literally pounds and pounds of cat everywhere. One of the Asian.

[Byron]

There's no College Hunk.

[John Holmberg]

The Asian lady had like opened and poured food out all over her bathroom. Like, I don't know how it happened, but like cans of tomato sauce just years ago opened in her bathroom and poured. Covered it up. And so to walk into her bathroom was just a. It was just mounds of papers and sheets and clothes and food and bugs and rats. And you walk in there and just Disgusting. And you know who I feel sorry for is the cats that get trapped into this nightmare. Like, they always have cats and pets and they. They have a little section of the house that's pretty clean for the cat food. Usually, like, there's a little spot they keep. Make sure the cats are okay. Yeah, it is. It is horrible. And then right after that, TLC had the nerve to show my 600 pound life. And I'm like, good lord, are you trying to make me shoot myself? I watched Stephanie's story last night. Stephanie. Stephanie's gonna die of being fat like she was 640 pounds. No, 619 pounds.

[Byron]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

And so she goes over to Dr. Now, who I love. People like Anthony have to do very much work. She don't know what to do.

[Brady]

She's the one that's too honest.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he's very honest. He's got that terrible hair. He's a little chunky. He looks like my grandma. But Stephanie, I don't think she going to do much. Like the start of the show. He tells you she manipulate family. Not going to do much. Not going to do much. She comes down there and he gave her a goal of 50 pounds in two months. They showed her eating breakfast. I can't tell you how big the ham was. It was the size of your chest. Slice of ham, plate of eggs, 10 sausages, like 15 slices of bacon and eight waffles. And they just showed her, eat the whole goddamn thing. And she's like, I gotta get out of that doctor now. I've been working real hard. You're working real hard on that. And then so she gets in the car they gotta drive from Washington to Houston to meet Dr. No, I don't think she's gonna do much. She's gonna do much. Drives all the way down there and like a half hour and she goes, my body's aching from all the driving. Like you're driving from Seattle to Houston. You better buck up. Half hour. We ain't pull out and get something to eat.

[Brady]

Wait a minute. They did she driving or is it like Tammy had her husband drive her in the back of the.

[John Holmberg]

She's. Tammy was smart. Tammy got in the back. This lady sat in the passenger seat, wrecked everything. So it was always uncomfortable. So the guy pulls over and she's at like Hardee's. Give me the number four large curly fries.

[Brady]

She walked into Hardee's.

[John Holmberg]

No, they were in the drive through and then she says, and also number six, give me the chicken sandwich. She just starts rattling off the whole thing. And the next thing you know, her big fat face has a mouthful of burger and she just goes delicious. Drives all the way to Houston with a 50 pound two month goal, right. She says she's been doing it. Gets on the scale, six pounds, she's down six. I don't know what, two months. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. Dr. No comes in, you got to work out. I think you don't work very hard. You make this harder for yourself. And so give you another two months, 50 pounds. She comes back, she's at, what was it, six pounds. Put her at 6:12. Next time she showed up, she got to 602. And he gave her two more months to lose 50 more, she shows up at 596. So in 10 months she'd lost like 18 pounds total. And she started to blame that doctor and he just goes, ah, you're not gonna take. Go nevermind. And he just leaves. He's not going to leave, do a thing. And he talks and that thing's like.

[Brady]

Boy, you have to be like that doctor. And you just have to realize my efforts are not going anywhere.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, and her 16 year old son, 16 year old son's 400 pounds. And he said, I don't want to end up like her. You already are. And the two other ones, she's got two other kids and all I could think was somebody her three times and squirted.

[Brady]

Hey, Tammy had multiple guys.

[John Holmberg]

I know.

[Brady]

I think they all died, but under.

[John Holmberg]

Her or were eating.

[Byron]

Yeah. What was the one she took in the scales when they were.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, she was.

[Byron]

When they were mating. 16 years.

[John Holmberg]

Samuel 16 years ago. But that was that skinny black dude that was like jackpot. And I don't know what he saw in that, but he loved her. Gary Payton.

[Brady]

Cuz the big black dude ended up dying.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. And we say big compared to Tammy. Tammy had. Tammy had like love handles on her forehead.

[Brady]

Something finally clicked with her though.

[Byron]

She.

[Brady]

She dropped the weight.

[John Holmberg]

Something clicked, all right. I don't know what it was, but it was like. And then the black guy was gone. You can get all skinny, but the kids like, she looked and she goes, one of my children has a weight issue. The other two do not. The other two are nine and maybe 155 pounds. And then the son is like six and he's probably pushing 100. I'm like, your kids are fat. Like not. But comparably, like sitting next to her, they look like rails.

[Brady]

For reference, Alex is 18 right now, and I think he's topping the scales at 147.

[Byron]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Larry's a grown man. He's 140.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

He's less than this nine year old kid. And oh, it's the worst. And I sat and I sat and choked those shows down. Just like, what am I doing? Try to watch the hoarding show. I can't do it. Cannot do it. But yeah. Hopkins will occasionally email me and say, I'm at. I'm at one. Or text me. I'm like. And he's like, I had to go outside. I can't go back in. I'm gonna send. I'm gonna send Sam. Gonna send some other employee in there to go look at it. It's brutal. Merry effing holidays from the big red radio. It's John Holmerg here from the morning sickness. And it's time to talk about TVs Doug Hopkins of My Home Group and Doug Hopkins dot com. Have you ever thought to yourself, I'm going to sell my house? Of course you have. And one reason or another, you just didn't do it. Probably because it's when you try to make a real estate deal. What if I could say you can sell that house the day after you say the words, I want to sell my house. Doug's been at this for over 25 years, and that's why he's still on top of the Hill. TVs Doug Hopkins can handle everything. Won't move the price, or you get $5,000. What do you do? Start the process right now@doug hopkins.com or grab the phone and sing Howdy, everybody. It's John Holmberg. Here from the morning sickness. And it's time to tell you about fanduel. The NFL Sundays. They're here. You got your crew, you got your couch, your snacks, your slate. FanDuel's coming in with something extra. This isn't just another NFL Sunday. It's your chance to place that perfect parlay or hit your go to player prop. And now we're making it even better because this week FanDuel's bringing the bonus. That's right. Right now, all customers can get a 50% profit boost on any NFL bet. However you play your game, FanDuel's got your back with something extra in your account because that's what Sunday should feel like. Visit fanduel.com kupd to download the app and get in on the action before kickoff. Eile towards my new tight end over there in Pittsburgh to get a touchdown and I'm all set up starting my parlay. Just go to fanduel.com kupd21/in present Arizona Opt in required bonus issued as non withdrawable profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply including any token expiration and max wager amount. See [e-mail] gambling problem. Call 1-800-next-step or text next step to 53342 morning sickness guy says. I was an EMT. I went on a call for heart pain. We got there and there were pathways to the house with food boxes. The person was so fat called the rescue squ to help us lift her onto the cot. Then the dog legs would retract because her weight pinched him on the cot. On the cot. So the hoarder show makes me physically ill to watch because I always think of that. Yeah, when you put somebody up on the thing, the legs will fold under it.

[Brady]

Okay, gotcha.

[John Holmberg]

Because you're too fat to put on a learning. And then the mom had to wash her ass. And I don't know why they show that all the time.

[Byron]

Both arms in there. Still even haven't hit base yet.

[John Holmberg]

She grew a scrubbing. She grew a growth between her legs and it looked like the world's biggest beanbag hanging off of her middle. And she gets up and her mom helps her out of bed and walks her over to the toilet and she just plops onto the toilet and this look on her face strips off this apron shirt she's got on. Totally naked. Now they've blurted out mom's standing there and she just goes my balls are sticking cause she has that. And then she climbs into the shower and sits on the Edge after a good, healthy dump. No wiping. There's no. There's no reason for that. And mom has to wander, like, get that shower wand and start scrubbing her. And the whole time she's scrubbing her back, the fat is going, ow. Like, touching. It hurts like, she's just in constant. And I'm laughing because I'm like, well, this is awful. But at a certain point, you know, you did eat 2 pounds of ham, 18 sausages, and 8 waffles. Kind of did this to yourself. And then not once did they show. And maybe the show doesn't show. Did they show the undercarriage scrub?

[Brady]

Don't need that.

[John Holmberg]

So then her stepdad had to drive her to Houston. And I don't think he washed her. I don't think he was in on that deal. So imagine how bad a car would smell with. And they had to stop every three hours so she could, like, eat or get up. Oh, it's the worst show on tv. Hoarders. The Stephanie Story. Watch Stephanie Story. And then she'd go, doc told me I need to walk more. And she'd go get the mail and go back in the house. That's the furthest I've ever gone.

[Byron]

Nothing but Beals.

[John Holmberg]

I hate trees. She said it was awesome. I can't.

[Brady]

There's a lot of things I've done as a stepdad to Alex's sister.

[John Holmberg]

Not washer.

[Byron]

No.

[Brady]

God. And at £600. No, no, no, no.

[John Holmberg]

You don't pull the full year down.

[Brady]

Yeah, I didn't sign up for that.

[John Holmberg]

That's one of the reasons I like not having kids always. I look at stuff like that, and I'm like, thank God, because I don't love anything that much. If you balloon up to, like, two bills and you're nine, I'm auto starting the car.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Thinking about maybe not showing up for dinner. And then you get up to 3 or £400 and you're like 12 or 13 years old. I'm like, no, this is going to be a lot of washing. And you're never leaving this. I'm going to go now. It's going to be easier for me. It's just not easy. No, you don't.

[Brady]

You don't get over that.

[John Holmberg]

Kids will either kill you or turn into that.

[Brady]

They'll either be. What's his name? Kevin.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yo, we need to talk about Kevin. Yeah. I don't want somebody murdering me, committing a murder, and me having to sit in the courtroom and like Dahmer's dad. I always felt so bad because he tried to keep loving him. And I'm like, I don't have that. I don't have that in me. I don't love anything that much at all. If my dog was like 700 pounds, and I'm like, look, I'm trying to keep you on a diet here. And you just keep getting. You keep doing this to yourself. I just put him down like, this dog. This dog is. He's crapping all over the place. Like, that's enough. We can't do this. I've tried to put you on a diet. I don't know where you're getting all this food. Yeah, I don't love anything that much. Good Lord. Megan puts on, you know, £20. We start talking. What are you doing here?

[Brady]

£20 on her.

[John Holmberg]

It's awful. That's just terrifying. It's like. Like stuffing a bowling ball in a straw.

[Brady]

£15 on Lisa. It'd be like, what are we doing?

[John Holmberg]

Terrible. It looks like she beat a small bear.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Nope, that's gotta go. That's gotta go.

[Brady]

It's like ronnie lately with 10. With 10?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Byron]

Oh, yeah. You can't.

[John Holmberg]

Can't hide it like me, right? And nobody knows when you put on weight, it just blends in with all the rest of it. He puts on 10, 12. Nobody's gonna see it. That's the smart way to go.

[Brady]

Well, my cast.

[Byron]

It's actually the other way around. And you lose 10, you do doesn't much, right?

[John Holmberg]

It would work both ways.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

I think if we saw you gain.

[Byron]

10, it's like, oh. Oh, really?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Byron]

No, you get that you're down.

[John Holmberg]

You've got a nice little sliding scale either direction. Nobody's really gonna Brady, have you put on a couple of pounds, like, you'd have to put on some. Some substantial pounds for people to go like, oh, Brady's gaining.

[Brady]

Because I remember the big way off. That was one of the first times I'd looked at you and wow. Yeah, it's really offy.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Drop some weight. 600 pounds, though. I don't not love anything that much. I just don't. If you have to the day you have to wrap a towel around a stick to wipe your own ass. And you're not willing to stop eating chips. Why am I gonna wash you? Why do I need to start scrubbing your ass? I'm not loving you that much. Can't reach my own asshole. Wanna give me a hand? No, that's the last thing I wanna do. No, you don't love me. Not that much, no. A baby's different. Or a handicapped person. You did this to yourself. It's thyroid. No, it's not. I watched you eat a pound of ham and £14 waffles like nothing. But I don't know that thyroids do that. Gun control. If I got into a car wreck, that's. All of them have been in a car wreck. That screwed them up. Got in a car wreck, got fat. Ralphie tried to blame his weight for a while there. I was raped as a child by the neighbor, and then I got into.

[Byron]

A car accident, and I was 15 or 16.

[John Holmberg]

Why does a car accident add all that weight? I just got depressed. Oh, Then he started eating. Got the car accident. Yeah, but it was the food, right? It was the food.

[Byron]

Didn't he break his leg pretty bad or something?

[John Holmberg]

Oh, he busted his body up. But still, it's not why you're fat.

[Byron]

And that's where. And I gotta. It just. It's gotta be something that your body is. I mean, like, I think someone that tries to get to £600, I don't think. I don't think a lot of people can do that. I mean, it has to start early.

[John Holmberg]

I don't think anybody's trying to do it.

[Brady]

Oh, it's years.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. I think you just start realizing it's spiraled out of control. And then the vicious circle of eating for comfort because it's the only friend you've got, and then feeling bad about yourself and saying, I'll never lose this. I might as well blow up. Who cares?

[Brady]

Might as well enjoy my food before I die.

[John Holmberg]

And it takes a lot to fuel that giant body. So, you know, you're used to 10,000 calories a day, and you cut back to 1200.

[Byron]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You're gonna start eating.

[Byron]

And I know there's cases where it's a pituitary gland or something like that.

[Brady]

That's medical. That can be fixed a lot earlier.

[John Holmberg]

Well, Ralphie and I got in that argument. God damn it. I had a tough childhood. That caused this. I'm like, no, the food caused it. You can have mental things, but the food's why you got fat. No. Yes, exactly. No doctor's gonna tell you, well, you've been eating great. I don't know how this happened. You ate it. You did it. I'm not saying that's the why you ate it is what you're talking about, but it's the food that made you fat, John.

[Brady]

I'm sure you do, but you have to pay extra for a 600 pound person coffin. Right. The materials alone, it's like for three people.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, but baby coffins cost the same as a regular coffin.

[Brady]

Do they really?

[John Holmberg]

I've looked into it. What?

[Brady]

Wait a minute.

[John Holmberg]

Just in case.

[Brady]

Is that because of Jessel Nick?

[John Holmberg]

No, because if a baby showed up, I would definitely need a coffin. I mean, there would be. No, they really are. Yeah, they're the same price. They're actually very expensive. They're rare. You have to. You know, nobody's like churning those out in mass. They gotta have them built. Coffins for regular stuff you can put.

[Brady]

On the, on the assembly.

[John Holmberg]

That's. Yeah, you got to poke those out daily. But baby coffins are like. Oh, got another. You have a small grouping, but they're not like. That's not the hotcakes of the coffin world. Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be spending a lot of time at Baby Gap. I'd be over at Baby Box. And what do we got? It's a box store for babies, they call it. I'm fine.

[Brady]

How about this, guys? I know exactly what you're talking about. When I was a paramedic was being the key word. We had a house that we all knew about where you had to put on booties because the cats peed so much everywhere. You stepped on the floor with squish. We would routinely be throwing up after that call. You're welcome to roll with me any day. As a paramedic, you see obese people that can barely even move, let alone get through their house. The smells and the things you touch will blow your mind. And for some reason, the women always want to find, flirt with you.

[John Holmberg]

Well, because you're the first man in their house in years and you're a firefighter, an emt, you're probably in pretty good shape. It's out of control now. 98K U PD. It's John Holberg here and it's time to talk about TVs Doug Hopkins of my home group and Doug Hopkins dot com. I got a call from Doug the other day thanking me for leading so many of you guys his direction. He told me a story of a listener who had been through quite an ordeal and had a house they absolutely had to sell to feel like they were getting back to a normal place in life. You just never know when simple business transactions can actually change someone's life. So you want to deal with somebody great. TV's Doug Hopkins. That's your guy. So if you want to sell your house, start the process right now online. At Doug hopkins.com or grab that phone and sing Hopkins 1-800-sale now.

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