12-29-25 - Brady Calls John A Zealot Of Hate - Sept 2015 - Prom Cancelled In Miss Over Lesbians - Mar 2010 - BO

Summary

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Episode Overview

Theme:
This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness is classic irreverent, combative, and often playful debate among John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo, and Brady's nephew Charlie Wolf. The primary topics are:

• John’s influence (or alleged lack thereof) on Charlie's beliefs and family dynamic
• The Catholic Church’s stance on LGBTQ+ issues and Pope Francis
• A prom in Mississippi cancelled over a lesbian couple wanting to attend
  As usual, the hosts mix quick-witted banter with biting social commentary, all in their characteristic, boundary-pushing style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. "Zealot of Hate": The Influence Accusation

Timestamps: 01:08–14:45

• Brady accuses John of being a “zealot of hate,” suggesting John’s vocal criticisms, especially of religion, have influenced Charlie to challenge his family’s beliefs.
• John rejects this label and pushes back ("I'm not a zealot of hate, but I admit it. I don't need people telling me that—I already know it." (03:02, John)). He insists Charlie’s beliefs are his own:

  "I have nothing to do with your personal beliefs." (07:17, John)

• Charlie clarifies he stopped believing in high school, independent of John’s influence.

  "I feel like I've had beliefs for a while." (07:13, Charlie)

• Brady semi-apologizes for the accusation, concedes that John is more of a “zealot of eloquence.”
• The group riffs on the idea, jokingly dubbing both John and Charlie “zealots of hate” but repeatedly bringing it back to satire and exaggerated banter.

  "I'm a zealot of eloquence." (13:29, John)

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2. The Mixed Messages of Pope Francis & Catholic Church on LGBTQ+

Timestamps: 03:05–06:49

• John outlines the conflict:
  1. Past Popes strictly rejected LGBTQ+ inclusion.
  2. Pope Francis made headlines for welcoming gays, but has sent mixed signals—e.g. later meeting and supporting Kim Davis (the Kentucky clerk who refused marriage licenses to same-sex couples).
  3. Media exaggerates the Pope’s statements, and the actual Catholic stance remains conflicted.
• Quotes & Exchanges:

  "The Pope’s message to me is a little mixed. You can’t all of a sudden start saying, 'oh sure, gays can come in...'" (03:13, John)
  "He’s still against gay man bishops." (04:28, John)

• Brady and John agree: There’s hypocrisy in the Church’s statements. Both note the “hatred” and intolerance woven into traditional Catholic leadership, but Brady also defends the idea that Pope Francis is trying (in his own way) to promote less hatred.

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3. Parenting, Family Structure, and Sexuality

Timestamps: 05:28–06:49

• The team talks about different family structures and societal prejudice.
• John lampoons the idea that gay parents aren’t "real parents":

  "I've been to Apache Junction. The heteros haven't done it exactly awesome." (05:56, John—sarcastic jab)

• Brady acknowledges parenting is hard no matter what.

  "There's challenges to parenting." (06:22, Brady/Toledo)

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4. Charlie’s Independent Thinking

Timestamps: 07:12–14:45

• Charlie’s backstory: Raised Catholic, lost faith independently.

  "I stopped believing like my sophomore year of high school." (07:19, Charlie)

• The group debates what “influence” really means—did John actually “inspire” Charlie, or did he simply serve as a sounding board in a new, judgment-free environment?
• Brady jokes:

  "You've released the Kraken." (16:32, Brady)

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5. Mississippi Prom Cancelled over Lesbians

Timestamps: 17:23–27:55

• John discusses a headline where a Mississippi school cancelled prom after a girl requested to bring another girl as her date.

  "A little lesbianic Mississippi lesbian action." (18:07, John)

• The team mocks the backwardness of Mississippi’s response, drawing biting parallels to historical racial segregation:

  "We're Mississippi...one of you is going to try a darky whitey prom date thing...So what? They were shocked when they found out it was two girls..." (18:13, John)
  "There are no Chinese people in Mississippi anymore." (18:48, John, on the absurdity of prejudice)

• Jokes flying about:
  • The fear of "vagina flying all over our gym floor." (19:21, John—satirical take on conservative panic)
  • Brady proposes (tongue-in-cheek) a law that “you cannot declare lesbos until you're 21" (20:09)
  • The team jokes about the "poop wiener" double standard—how society is more comfortable with lesbians than gay men, "mainly because of the poop."

    "We don't frown on lesbianism like we do the gay thing. And it's mainly because of the poop. We all know that's true." (22:10, John)

• Reference to Morgan Freeman:
  • The team brings up the HBO special on Mississippi’s first interracial prom, mocking the region’s resistance to progress.

    "Morgan Freeman was the one who broke that up." (24:15, John) "Hello, Mississippi. Get out of here, Morgan Freeman. You went and conjoined the genitals of our beautiful white daughter with some humongous Black boy." (24:41, John)

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6. Prom Stories & Reflections

Timestamps: 26:04–27:55

• John shares an embarrassing personal prom story, reflecting on the emotional weight of adolescent rejection and disappointment.
• The group continues riffing, combining their trademark blend of self-deprecation and irreverence.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "It hurts to have someone such a zealot for hatred." – Brady (01:19)
• "I’m not a zealot of hate, but I admit it. I don’t need people telling me that—I already know it." – John (03:02)
• "You’re your own man. You should be insulted. To say that you had a mush brain I molded and turned you into the devil." – John, to Charlie (08:25)
• "I’m a zealot of eloquence." – John (13:29)
• "I was force-fed Catholicism since day one." – Charlie (15:51)
• "I've been to Apache Junction. The heteros haven't done it exactly awesome." – John (05:56)
• "We don’t frown on lesbianism like we do the gay thing. And it's mainly because of the poop. We all know that's true. Nobody ever says it..." – John (22:10)
• "Morgan Freeman was the one who broke that up." – John (24:15)
• "Look back to the room and hey, you little chickadee. I do WC Fields. I did impressions. And she loved it." – John, on his own prom experiences (26:47)

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Important Segment Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|--------------------------------------------| | 01:08 | Start of "zealot of hate" argument | | 03:05 | Catholic Church/LGBTQ+ discussion | | 05:28 | Parenting/family structure debate | | 07:12 | Charlie's independence clarification | | 17:23 | Mississippi prom cancelled story begins | | 22:10 | Societal double standards ("poop wiener") | | 24:15 | Morgan Freeman & Mississippi proms | | 26:04 | John's personal prom story |

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Tone and Style

• Playfully combative: Heavy on sarcasm, mockery, and inside jokes.
• Raw and boundary-pushing: Willing to satirize taboo or controversial topics.
• Camaraderie and affection: Despite jabs, there’s mutual respect and humor among the crew.

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Who Should Listen to This?

Fans of raucous, freewheeling talk radio who appreciate brash humor, social critique, and candid group dynamics. The episode is particularly relevant for listeners interested in family influence, changing attitudes towards religion and sexuality, and the unpredictability of small-town America’s culture wars.

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Transcript

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[Brady]

Would you want to do that?

[John Holmberg]

The best of the morning sickness. Get Charlie in here. He starts firing everybody up about Jesus.

[Brady]

It hurts. It hurts to have someone such a zealot for hatred.

[John Holmberg]

It isn't a zealot for hatred.

[Brady]

He's a zealot of going out of his way at opposing brings it up the Catholic church.

[John Holmberg]

He doesn't like it.

[Brady]

I know.

[John Holmberg]

That's all right. Man. You guys are intense. I'm just going to sit over here and drink my water. Bogan family's a mess. Can't get along at all. Yeah, those two are going at it in here. How did you guys. How did you guys live together for.

[Brady]

You should have punched Charlie because his his new inspiration.

[John Holmberg]

No, no, don't. Don't. You pointed me. You've been rubbing off on.

[Brady]

Well, actually he showed up a commonality.

[John Holmberg]

Don't start that with me. He f with his mother and father for years about this. I'm not taking any birds of a feather.

[Brady]

Birds of a feather flock together.

[John Holmberg]

How did I get in on this? I've hung out with the kids once.

[Brady]

You're a. You're a turn a big Influence on him?

[John Holmberg]

Charlie.

[Brady]

And I'm not saying that's bad.

[John Holmberg]

Come here.

[Brady]

You're not saying it's good.

[John Holmberg]

You're also saying Charlie was too weak minded to get past a conversation with was I an influence on Mark Malone too? Cuz he's just as guilty of talking about that stuff with Charlie. Get in here. I'm not testing me for that. I hope you're not telling his parents that. John H bet you're telling his parents.

[Brady]

Why are you so upset about that?

[John Holmberg]

Because you're obviously. You called him a zealot for hate. That's clearly what you think of me.

[Brady]

But he. There's where he's missing the boat on your side of it.

[John Holmberg]

I'm a zealot for hate. But I admit it. I don't need people telling me that. I already know it. The accusations are ugly. I can imagine how those phone calls I made him atheist in the bogan house. Well then you better not say that he's been influenced and he appointed to me. That's not not right. He came in here arguing with you.

[Brady]

No, I, I think I had.

[John Holmberg]

No, I talked about the Kim Davis Pope thing. He didn't know.

[Brady]

There's not really arguing.

[John Holmberg]

He didn't know about the Kim Davis.

[Brady]

Meeting with the exaggerations on his point was he.

[John Holmberg]

He had not known about the Kim Davis thing. He came in, we brought it up because he said something about the church. He's like wow, I didn't know that. And then so we started to talk about that. The Pope's message to me is a little mixed. You can't all of a sudden start saying oh yeah sure, gays can come in, gays can be allowed and why not? And he's the first Pope to do it. The reason it's a big deal when he says it is because all the other Popes said no they can't. They slammed the door on well then why is it a big deal then.

[Brady]

Why is it a big deal being the Pope came out and said then.

[John Holmberg]

Why is it a big deal?

[Brady]

Gays are not welcome into the Catholic Church.

[John Holmberg]

Then why is he the first Pope to say gays are welcome in the Catholic Church? Why is that what he knows?

[Brady]

He's basically saying that message to the world, not just the Catholic Church.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, so what other popes. So all these things, all the others have said it. You've all, all the other popes have said it. So he's just the one that got all the attention for it. No, all the other popes said no. All the other popes have stood firm on it. That's what we're talking about. And when he comes out and says that he's getting credit, and I give him credit for it, it's a. It's a nice statement. But then to go hang out with Kim Davis afterwards, credit for.

[Brady]

I think what they're saying is they're trying to make it seem like, oh, they're going to. Now the Catholic Church might be looking at holding, allowing gays to do weddings in the cafeteria. I don't know what they're saying, but.

[John Holmberg]

I know he's been credited as the first pope to allow gays in, like, just to openly say, this is. This is okay. And that's why Republicans are so mad at him. He's not holding firm to the old popes, but he. He just changed on that because. Just recently, because he started saying in the beginning he was against it. He's still against gay man bishops.

[Brady]

It's a few statements that come out, and then the media get a hold of it and everyone says, this is what he's saying, and it says it. It's always like, there's.

[John Holmberg]

Look, it's not that. It's not so twisted like he said, no, I'm against this, this, and this. When he first came in, it's kind of like he's actually said, I've changed my stance, which I give him credit for. That's pretty.

[Brady]

Yeah. I think his general message about the. The hating that is going on is just knock it off. No matter what your religion, what your.

[John Holmberg]

Belief, the mixed message there is that, yes, he's preaching anti hate. And then he goes and meets Kim Davis and says, keep it up, you're doing great.

[Brady]

He said, I support it. Admire. You're in courage. He's supporting stay strong. He did not stay strong.

[John Holmberg]

Now, what do you think she heard?

[Brady]

Stay strong in your faith.

[John Holmberg]

All right? Stay strong and believing what you believe. It was just in June he said that gay parents can't be real parents. Right. They can't properly raise children. That's a zealot of hate, if you ask me.

[Brady]

That would be zealot of parents can't.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. Gay parent.

[Brady]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Holmberg]

But then. So that guy. I have a hard time hearing all these things, so you shouldn't hate it. But I don't have a problem. I don't have a problem with it.

[Brady]

Because I think he's got some validity. He has some valid points there. There's a different. On raising a kid. I don't.

[John Holmberg]

I think that's I. I've been to Brady. I've been to Apache Junction. The. The heteros haven't done it. Exactly. Awesome.

[Brady]

Exactly.

[John Holmberg]

There are plenty of gay parents that are just. Yeah, they're doing great. And most of the time they're very successful. It's two days. What he just said today. He has a point.

[Brady]

Let me make the point then. I think there's a difference. Single parent, too. There's downsides of a.

[John Holmberg]

Sure.

[Brady]

A single mom parent that. A kid that is.

[Commercial Announcer]

Why can't we just say there's challenges to parenting.

[Brady]

There's challenges to parenting.

[John Holmberg]

I think. And that's my opinion. I make it very clear that I think two people in a house is much better than one.

[Brady]

I agree with you completely.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

So two gays to. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever's doing half the work and, you know, helping you out. It's easier for me to do. To have two guys mowing my grass than it is just do it by myself. And it's basically, you know, two is. Two is a stronger unit than one.

[Brady]

And Toledo. You said it a lot better. There's difficulty. Yes.

[John Holmberg]

I'm taking the heat for this nonsense. Bringing down the. Bring down the Bogan family. Can blame me for this. The kid showed up atheist.

[Brady]

You. Don't worry. You haven't brought down the Bogan family.

[John Holmberg]

You pointed. I didn't say anything about that. I didn't say something. Bringing him in.

[Brady]

I made the. The statement that you've been an influence on Charlie.

[John Holmberg]

How so, Charlie? Have I been an influence on you?

[Brady]

Defend yourself, Brady.

[John Holmberg]

Thanks. What?

[Charlie Wolf]

On this religious stuff. I feel like I've had beliefs for a while.

[John Holmberg]

Thank you.

[Brady]

This is.

[John Holmberg]

I have nothing to do with your personal beliefs.

[Charlie Wolf]

I stopped believing like my sophomore year of high school.

[John Holmberg]

All right. Thank you. Nothing to do with me. Correct. You didn't have to listen in one day and go, that guy. That guy's speaking the truth. Had nothing to do with you and your family strife. Not at all. What?

[Charlie Wolf]

My beliefs?

[John Holmberg]

No, no, no. Just any in general. I. Am I a cause for your family dysfunction?

[Brady]

How would you.

[John Holmberg]

Thank you very much. That's all I needed to hear. Thanks. Charlie Wolf, everybody. Brady's nephew. Had nothing to do with it. Pointing to me and saying, I'm part.

[Brady]

Of your life since you've been out here.

[Charlie Wolf]

I think all of you have been very influential to my life since I've been out here.

[Commercial Announcer]

Boom.

[John Holmberg]

Thank you.

[Brady]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

But John.

[Brady]

You spend a lot of time with John.

[John Holmberg]

Not really. A little more than anyone else.

[Brady]

You haven't.

[Brett Vesely]

Okay.

[Brady]

That's been a lot, and I apologize.

[John Holmberg]

How much time do I spend with you? I've spent more time with Charlie Houses.

[Charlie Wolf]

Yeah, that's true.

[Brady]

That is true.

[John Holmberg]

We went out to those here later.

[Charlie Wolf]

Than all of you.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he spends more time with Toledo. How come he isn't boring? He's still entertaining to talk to.

[Commercial Announcer]

Still has no thirst for how come.

[John Holmberg]

Toledo's not catching heat for influence.

[Brady]

Well, then I will clear this up with the Bogan Wolf family. That. Yeah, John. That you are not an influencer.

[John Holmberg]

Thank you, Charlie. You're your own man. I'll give you your. I'll be the guy who gives you credit. You're your own man. You should be insulted. Yeah, you should be. To say that you had no mush. You had a mush brain that I molded and turned you into the devil. Evil.

[Brady]

No, no, no.

[John Holmberg]

Zealot of hate you were called.

[Brady]

Well, that's where you twist that a little bit.

[Charlie Wolf]

But you know, I'm going to pull one out of the Jesus playbook. I'm gonna turn the other cheek.

[John Holmberg]

Thank you very much, Charlie. That's big of you. You zealot of hate.

[Brett Vesely]

You.

[John Holmberg]

You believe that Brady? You called him a zealot of Hayden.

[Brady]

Pointed at me. Pretty passionate about the hatred towards the Catholic Church.

[Charlie Wolf]

I think he's full of it.

[John Holmberg]

I. I'm with you on that one. I'm not a zealot of hate. But you haven't been doing too well lately, you gotta admit. Or maybe in history. Yeah, they've got a lot of work. I mean, lately in the last 2, 000 years or so, right? Yeah, since the Jeebus. They've had a struggle getting it together, but hey, if you.

[Brady]

College and professional. They're professional.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. They still got a better house than I got. I mean, I don't know. They've done it through. I mean, look, if we had a child raping scandal shoot through KUPD and we all went and worked at other radio stations because our bosses pushed us, I'm not sure the station would survive, but somehow they've actually flourished. Oh, yeah, no, it's all on that.

[Brady]

I hope this Pope is legitimate, but again, you're hearing a lot of talk where he's saying, I want to make. We want to clean this up.

[John Holmberg]

We want. You called your nephew a zealot of hate and then pointed to me as the influence of that, and I am no such person. You are a zealot of hate on your own. You needed no help there. And you spend too much time with Eric. How Come you didn't blame Eric. They were spending all. So they were.

[Brady]

No, but about it mostly.

[John Holmberg]

Please.

[Brady]

Your commonality and. And the hatred towards religion and the Cleveland Browns.

[John Holmberg]

I hate the Browns.

[Brady]

Come on.

[John Holmberg]

Not the zealot I hate to make. He still loves the Browns. I haven't influenced him that way. Crying out loud, Eric. What did you do to him when you guys were looking for condos?

[Brady]

Boy, if I turned him into the zealot, I don't know.

[John Holmberg]

Why'd you accuse me of being a zealot of hate? Inspiration.

[Brady]

Oh, you're an inspiration to hate.

[John Holmberg]

No, I think it's a fairly judgmental statement from a cat. Christian. Charlie, tonight we talk about masturbating our leaders. When you come to my house tonight as your Svengali.

[Brady]

The name of tonight's exercise is work the shaft.

[John Holmberg]

Work the shaft. Yes. The tip is. Later. We'll do that. I'll give you the tip. Not an inspiration or influence to Charlie any more than Toledo. Hangs out with Toledo all day long. They talk about everything. They watch Jim Jeffries videos. They watch comedy stuff all the time. He's still got a personality. He's still fun to talk to. Toledo's been zero influence on him. And they spend all day together. He doesn't want a Yaris. He hasn't driven great lengths for no reason.

[Charlie Wolf]

I'm. I'm happy with my crv.

[John Holmberg]

You two are peas in a pod with that one.

[Brady]

That's true.

[John Holmberg]

But you don't climb in the CRV and drive to Wyoming. I drove here. Yeah, and you stop. You didn't go back. It's. Yeah, you learned your lesson. That's enough driving. Are you going to drive back anytime soon? Horrible, right? Your planes are full anyway. Brady, you should be a better influence on your. On your Charlie. Because we've kicked what he's upset about. I know that's true. Oh, is it the zealot of hate hug you? I like that nickname, though. Brady's nephew, the zealot of hate. Maybe they sent. Maybe the family sent Charlie down here so Brady could turn him into. Oh, my God. Did you hear what you just said? He was sent down. Maybe he was sent down just like Jesus. Maybe there was a plan.

[Commercial Announcer]

Oh, no.

[John Holmberg]

Go live with your uncle.

[Brady]

That's. That's not the.

[John Holmberg]

He will teach you the ways. Don't talk to the bald one. Over here, boy. Want an apple? Anyway? The bogans and wolfs. Very insulting. Brady. Call me a zealot of hate. Inspiring your nephew to be a zealot of hate. I'm insulting him.

[Brady]

Just fueled him. Fueled him more so. He seems more passionate about it.

[John Holmberg]

Judge me as a zealot of hate.

[Brady]

Since he's been here. More so. But I have, you know.

[Charlie Wolf]

Well, he has a.

[Brady]

He definitely was bond, you know, not as much. There's a bond. That's what I meant to say.

[Brett Vesely]

Sure.

[John Holmberg]

But I don't, I would never say to you, oh, you and another religious person, you, zealot of stupidity, have, I mean, that would be really insulting to you, wouldn't it?

[Brady]

I didn't.

[John Holmberg]

You said I was a zealot of hate. Inspiration. No. And I would call it stupid. I'm just using another insult. You have hurt John's feelings.

[Brady]

I'm using an I apologize if I've hurt your feelings.

[John Holmberg]

Thank you. Because it does hurt my feelings. That is an awful thing to say to somebody.

[Brady]

But you have been an influence, but.

[John Holmberg]

Not a zealot of hate. I'll say that I'm an influence. He's been an influence on me.

[Brady]

Has been. Comes across.

[John Holmberg]

Charlie's a history major.

[Brady]

I like talking to him. But, but the, he doesn't come across.

[John Holmberg]

This element of hatred like.

[Commercial Announcer]

But the influence means that he's influencing his, his opinions. I think Charlie's had those opinions. He's confirming them maybe.

[John Holmberg]

And hey, by the way.

[Commercial Announcer]

But not influencing them.

[John Holmberg]

It's like, well, it just, it fuels him more.

[Brady]

So I, I, I know you've had those feelings. Right.

[Charlie Wolf]

And I feel like I've been passionate about it. I think John's a little more eloquent about them than.

[John Holmberg]

That's, that's the word I'm looking for. I'm a zealot of eloquence.

[Brady]

Yes.

[John Holmberg]

Help them become more eloquent.

[Charlie Wolf]

That's better.

[John Holmberg]

That's a compliment. Thank you, Brady.

[Brady]

But you've admitted that you said yes, I'm a zealot of hate.

[John Holmberg]

It's a joke.

[Brady]

Oh, okay.

[John Holmberg]

If I say it's like, it's like my own N word.

[Brady]

Right.

[John Holmberg]

The zealot of hate is funny to say about yourself, but if somebody says that guy, zealot of hate, you don't walk around going, hey, that's fun. Merry effing holidays from the big red radio.

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[John Holmberg]

Holmberg's morning sickness.

[Charlie Wolf]

I feel like I'm a pretty happy person.

[John Holmberg]

Me too. I'm very happy.

[Commercial Announcer]

Well, next year's new zealot of hate.

[John Holmberg]

Of hate in this city. It's a battle between Charlie and I. I better stop influence there again the.

[Brady]

The phrase is zealot of hate towards.

[John Holmberg]

The Catholic but this still you just.

[Brady]

Said which is zealot of hate in bra. In a broad spectrum.

[Charlie Wolf]

I was force fed Catholicism since day one. I know that I had to go to from kindergarten through 12th grade. I went to Catholic schools and yeah, I hate it.

[Brady]

So then why am I off on this? Because you said he's the because you.

[John Holmberg]

Said I did it. You said he did it. I helped him be the zealot of hate.

[Brady]

You get him excited about that because you have that.

[John Holmberg]

He was already excited about it. I just never was free to speak about it before.

[Brady]

You're just a great.

[John Holmberg]

He was in a Catholic church with a Catholic family.

[Brady]

The guy was able to speak about it. Not much, no.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, he's in a happy, comfortable area to feel like. You know what I have.

[Brady]

You've released the Kraken.

[John Holmberg]

I have helped him. I know I have helped him find himself. If there's anything. But in fairness, Charlie's a very smart young man who's got a history degree, knows his stuff, so he's interesting to talk to in a lot of areas.

[Brady]

Absolutely.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah. So if anything, this kid's influenced me because he's smarter than I'll ever be. That's for sure.

[Brady]

Like this.

[John Holmberg]

Still a Browns fan, but not believing in fiction.

[Commercial Announcer]

I. E. Religion isn't hate, it's opinion.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brady]

It's just not believing.

[John Holmberg]

Again, though, it's not complimentary. You would admit that my nephew is a zealot of hate and it's because.

[Brady]

Of you towards the Catholic Church.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, okay, Please clarify that you didn't say that, but now you're saying.

[Brady]

Now you're saying that.

[John Holmberg]

Okay, you do say it now. Not originally.

[Brady]

Not originally you said hate towards the Catholic Church.

[John Holmberg]

You said that. Now.

[Brady]

I said that from the initially.

[John Holmberg]

You did not. Because that's when I was like, I didn't make him a zealot of hate.

[Brady]

No, you ran with the zealot of hate.

[John Holmberg]

I think it's because that's what you said. It's the last of Homburg's Morning sickness on 98 KUPD. Looking just at the papers, you know, just kind of keeping up with things. To see this in the AZ Central today. Interesting, because it, you know, to me it's a Pandora's box. It opens up a big old debate on where you draw the line. Jackson, Mississippi, now here it's the first problem is we're in Mississippi. So trying to say anything's relevant and throw Mississippi in the mix and they're gonna have a different mindset than us. But there's an 18 year old student, says the Mississippi school board canceled her prom. Did so in retaliation for her request to bring a girl as a date. A little lesbianic Mississippi lesbian action.

[Brady]

Wouldn't you have to request?

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, no, that's the thing. Just show up. I mean, that's what I don't understand.

[Brady]

HOA or something.

[John Holmberg]

The American Civil Liberties Union, who sometimes demanded that the school allow Constance McMillan to attend with her girlfriend. And I don't understand that. How do you know? Yeah, you're exactly right. It's like. All right, write down who you're taking. Because we don't want this to turn it. We're Mississippi. Chances are one of you is going to try a darky whitey prom date thing. And we got to keep our eye on that. So what? They were shocked when they found out that they had two girls. And it wasn't just an interracial problem in Mississippi. It was two chicks that wanted to bump donuts at the promotion.

[Brady]

Elizabeth Banks, we forbid you to take that Chinaman to prom.

[John Holmberg]

There are no Chinese people in Mississippi anymore.

[Commercial Announcer]

Not one.

[John Holmberg]

No.

[Brady]

Ever since.

[John Holmberg]

They've all disappeared since the prom thing of.

[Brady]

No.

[John Holmberg]

No Chinese white relations in the midst. School board statement Wednesday announced the district wouldn't host the prom. Had no, like, mention of the lesbian thing. But they said unspecified events would cause.

[Brady]

Distraction because immediately they're thinking, oh, a couple of lesbians go out there on the dance floor, it's gonna be a wreck.

[John Holmberg]

It's gonna be vagina flying all over our gym floor. We can't have it.

[Brady]

And maybe they're. The board's a little panicked if we allow this couple, then there's gonna be Brady.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, yeah. Then you start talking about poop wiener. And that's what they're really afraid of is, oh, this leads to poop wiener and our acceptance, or lack of acceptance of poop wiener. And that's really what everybody in this country is afraid of, is the poop weaner. Yeah, nobody wants to talk about it. That's true. But there you draw the line, because what if this girl isn't a lesbian? Just couldn't find. Maybe she's like, you know, precious sized and she can't find a date, but she's got a good friend who also is precious sized. And the two of them decide to go to the prom together just to experience prom. They're not lesbians. They're just friends.

[Brady]

But I don't think that request is. No, this is her.

[John Holmberg]

What's the difference? It's not like they're gonna just start, you know, showing people how to scissor on the floor.

[Brady]

I. You know, I think it's just kind of. It's still young. I think there should be a law passed that you cannot declare lesbos until you're 21.

[John Holmberg]

There's no declaration of sexual.

[Brady]

Yeah. On either side.

[John Holmberg]

Until you're 21.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

You can't drink.

[Brady]

You can't.

[John Holmberg]

You gotta, you know, run a couple of wangs through the system before you make this choice. At 18. Right? That's what you're saying? You know, how do you know? You don't. How do you know red doesn't look on you until you've tried red on? You're crazy, Brady. But, yeah, it just doesn't make any sense. So you just. What about the. The kids who can't get dates? There were plenty of girls who couldn't get. We had two lesbians in my high school that went together. We didn't know they were lesbians, but they didn't have dates. But one of them was really hot, and every guy liked her, and it was Jen Eshelman. She was cute.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

We didn't know. And then she starts mouthing off a few weeks later that her and the girl started to, you know, lick away, you know, And I'm like, wait a minute.

[Brady]

What?

[John Holmberg]

And I didn't understand it at the time. I didn't think it was real at that age.

[Commercial Announcer]

We always had a couple couples that were like that, too.

[John Holmberg]

Most of the time it was girls.

[Commercial Announcer]

A couple of guys did it on.

[John Holmberg]

A dare, you know, go to prom.

[Charlie Wolf]

That was it.

[John Holmberg]

I don't know if they were.

[Brady]

And usually the. The gay guy that was there, he would always take the girl because he'd.

[John Holmberg]

Always take the weird.

[Brady]

His friends were always the BS Girls.

[John Holmberg]

Just judge had that date. Bill Tankovich had that date. They were nice guys, but you knew.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[John Holmberg]

Tankovich especially. But he always had chicks around him. And he had, like, two dates to prom. And I think both those girls ended up eating carpet, too. So it's kind of a, you know, let's not stir the pot. I'll take you, and then your lesbian friend can take Jess. And then after prom will swap.

[Brady]

You know, what they should do is say to the school board, these girls that are, you know, have caused a stir in the promise, don't cancel the prom. Just say, hey, you know what? We'll take male dates.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

There's times to bird dog on the other guy's date, you know.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah.

[Brady]

They can hook up later. Find the two guys that want poop winner.

[John Holmberg]

Yeah, find the poop winner. Guys and combo. You have to double date the lesbians have to take a poop wiener to the thing because that's really what they're afraid of. It's people. We don't frown on lesbianism. Like, we do the gay thing. And it's mainly because of the poop. We all know that's true. Nobody ever says it, but I can just.

[Brady]

That school board's just wigging up. I can just see it now. They're gonn to circle up like circus elephants and dance on the floor. It's going to.

[John Holmberg]

It's going to get ugly. Just cancel the whole goddamn thing.

[Commercial Announcer]

Cancel it.

[John Holmberg]

Cancel it. Ain't no reason to have those lesbos doing their demonic devil vagina dances on our gym floor. They can't even wear shoes on it.

[Commercial Announcer]

They don't wear shoes, sir.

[John Holmberg]

You don't wear shoes on the gym floor. Are you crazy? Scuff that thing up.

[Brady]

Black soldier chews nuts.

[John Holmberg]

You're bananas. But, you know, we're also talking about Mississippi, where literally, I watched on HBO a special that was two years old. Morgan Freeman found out about this thing and narrated and put together the very first interracial prom this county had ever seen. And it was craziness. These people had never seen a white man kiss a black girl before. Off. And now they're gonna. And it was the integration of the prom of the black and white school, and they were gonna have some. You know, some of them were dating each other, and it was just. Oh, the whole city was going crazy. Two years old.

[Brady]

And this high school in Mississippi is going through a transition because this year they started busing in lesbians.

[John Holmberg]

Right? Well, they've been doing that for years in Mississippi. They love those buses. How about that teen life, huh?

[Charlie Wolf]

Huh?

[John Holmberg]

I'm a gay kid. In Mississippi. You're not going to have problems forever. What an understanding bunch you're around. So anyway. But I just find it odd that the school can cancel the whole prom and then blame the lesbians.

[Brady]

You can't do that.

[John Holmberg]

No, you cancel the prom. Sure. You. But. And since when do you have to request your date? That's a good point, Brady.

[Commercial Announcer]

Oh, my God, you're right. They had separate proms for black students.

[John Holmberg]

And one for white till 2007. And Morgan Freeman was the one who broke that up.

[Brady]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer]

Took him 11 years to do it.

[John Holmberg]

Took him a decade. I was just gonna say, if I remember right, he's been trying for a long time. I've been petitioning the board for quite a while. Finally, Black Wang can meet with White Beaver. Have no problem at this prom.

[Brady]

That town hates Morgan Freeman.

[John Holmberg]

Oh, they hate Morgan Freeman. The bucket list is on. Turn it.

[Brady]

That's his.

[Commercial Announcer]

It's his hometown.

[John Holmberg]

It says they're that awful Morgan Freeman again. They can't stand him. Hello, Mississippi. Get out of here. Morgan Freeman. You went and conjoined the genitals of our beautiful white daughter with some humongous black boy. I enjoy Mississippi. Well, we don't enjoy you. Take your Shawshank ass Out here. Go to Alabama where that stuff's acceptable.

[Brady]

They're in A quadrant.

[John Holmberg]

You and you filthy demonic Negro thoughts?

[Brady]

They're in a quandary because they loved Marsh the Penguin so much. But the narration.

[John Holmberg]

I can't believe it. Somebody's penguin movie rubbing me the wrong way. And the penguins slide down the hill. Oh, that. That grubby Morgan Freeman again, isn't it? If it's black and white. He talks about it. Now he's on penguin. Mississippi's lost its mind. It's 7:50 in the morning sickness. But if you're planning your prom right now, or your kid is or whatever, and they're taking a girl, wow. There's ways around it, I guess. You can petition the school board to cancel the whole damn thing for everybody. Just.

[Brady]

I want to meet the date committee.

[John Holmberg]

I do too. No. You know you're taking who? Deanne McElhenney? No. She's way out of your league. We're canceling the whole thing. If you two show up to get.

[Brady]

Her on the proactive, then you can take her.

[John Holmberg]

Deanne was my date to prom, and she was much prettier than I was. And in the middle of prom, told another girl the only reason she went is because Justin, her old boyfriend, didn't ask her and she wanted to keep an eye on him. And I found that out in the middle of the day. And keep in mind, I had, like, a hotel room all rented. We were gonna have a big party, and that was the one where you.

[Brady]

Had a license to drive.

[John Holmberg]

I was thinking, hey, this is awesome. We get a longer achievement. But that was the rumor that came back to me. In the middle. So the whole prom was ruined in the middle because my giant watermelon had and toothpick body had finally found someone that would accept me for what I am. Grown up, Stewie.

[Brady]

I said yes to Rocky Dennis.

[John Holmberg]

I said yes to the retarded boy. I'm not retarded. I don't even know how he stands on those sticks.

[Brady]

I'm right here.

[John Holmberg]

I can hear you. We're at prom. Look back to the room and hey, you little chickadee. I do WC Fields. I did impressions. And she loved it. My Fields was killing him. Over here, chickadee. Get away from me, boy. His WC Fields isn't right. So, yeah, so I find that out in the middle of prom. And then she goes to sleep after drinking tons of Bartles and James, and I whacked it on the carpet of the hotel watching the 10 second stuff while she laid There. So she's got that crying. She's got that probably. I'm not gonna lie. I was pretty messed up that night. And not drunk. Messed up emotionally. I was emotionally damaged. There were probably some tears. Some tears and whack. And there's nothing sadder than that, dude.

[Commercial Announcer]

The glow of the TV light.

[Brady]

Wow, look at that shot.

[John Holmberg]

Is that guy masturbating and crying? It's the most pitiful human lump I've ever seen. Again, it sleeps. I'm dirty.

[Brady]

John, how was prom?

[John Holmberg]

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