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Brett Vesely
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Tone
Cease and desist at once.
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Marcus
I do have to read this text to you.
Dick Toledo
Go quote Unquote. Are you trying to put your dick in my milk? Unquote. Another amazing phrase from HMS that's right. I'm gonna try to work that into conversation today, John. I'll let you know how it goes.
Brady
Let's make it an old time.
Tone
Saying, this guy, you know, I've had.
Brady
Trouble with him for years. He's always trying to put his dick in my milk. Wait, wait, no, I want to hear it with the Italian. Brett.
Tone
Brett.
Brady
Yeah.
Brett Vesely
Oh, this effing guy putting his dick in my milk.
Brady
There we go. Forget about it. Really well delivered. Dude, your pause was perfect.
Marcus
I think he's done it before.
Brady
I think he's actually said that.
Tone
Oh, Tone.
Brady
We got some guy trying to put his dicking on, though. That's good stuff. I like that. We've all slipped and fell in the kitchen. Brady. It happened. Yeah, it's good stuff. Well, there you go.
Tone
Yeah.
Brady
You watch Gangs of London. You especially would like. All you guys would like it. Brady, not so much.
Dick Toledo
It costs.
Brady
I'll just talk to the people.
Brett Vesely
I thought it was a free trial.
Brady
It is a free trial on Bogan junior.
Brett Vesely
What's the problem?
Dick Toledo
What's the problem?
Brady
The problem is he doesn't. He doesn't know how to cancel a subscription. It took seven days.
Brett Vesely
Set a reminder in your goddamn iPhone.
Brady
After seven days, they lock you down for a lifetime of AMC Plus. And then your TV just goes every time you turn it on.
Marcus
My jitterbug doesn't have that.
Brady
5.99Amonth is just unreasonable. You're fine. Just put your seven day trial on and then have Kirby cancel it.
Tone
Hey, old pirate. Looks like we're getting charged, baby.
Marcus
Mine was. I could either buy it for 23.99.
Brady
Yeah.
Marcus
Or do the fee. Free trial. Seven days. Much better. But the. It wasn't five. It was 14.99.
Brady
Brady, a free trial doesn't cost money.
Marcus
Yeah, I know, but I'm like, can I get it all in in seven days? I think I can.
Brady
I know you can. You watch Hillbilly hand fishing for like 13 hours once. You know all the bar rescue done with it today. You are a binger. You like that stuff. This guy got his dick in my milk over here and all I'm trying to do is help him get a free show. Anyway, Marcus, I'll talk to you. You seem reasonable. All right. Oh, it's so good.
Dick Toledo
I'm on Amazon prime right now.
Brady
There it is. Look, there's a big banner. Watch. I almost clicked it. Why didn't you. We're struggling. 99.
Dick Toledo
A month after your seven day free trial.
Brady
After your trial, Brady, you're worried about.
Brett Vesely
We didn't know.
Marcus
I just didn't.
John Holberg
So let me ask you this.
Brady
It's 10 episodes. The gangs of London, right?
Marcus
Yeah.
Brady
10 episodes. Even if you screw up. 90 cents and go. Yeah, and go.
Tone
8Th day and go.
Marcus
Ah.
Brady
90 cents an episode for a great show, and then you cancel that month. You spent less than you used to at blockbuster in the 90s.
Marcus
That's a little steep. 90 cents.
Brady
Well, then you shouldn't have a TV. Good Lord, man. What's happened to you? He only does it for friendship. You know, I have this problem with my mom now, remember? You know that day you cross the line where you realize, my mom. How am I still alive if this is the same woman that raised me? What's going on? My mom's wacky. My mom putting pictures in the electric frame, the. You know, the computerized digital frame. I'm like, what are you doing? Well, it's just a frame. It's broken. I'm like, no, it's not. You didn't do the thing. Well, I don't need. I just like looking at one. Anyway, my mom's digital frame is still in the box. Yeah, at least that. That wouldn't be. My mom took it out. Only because I opened it for her. What is it? I'm like, it's a. It's a digital. Look what it does. And I put the thing in it. Pictures. I loaded pictures, scrolled them. Next time I'm there, there's one bent picture just shoved in the thing. And I'm like, what's this? I just like that picture. Well, you can put it in there. It'll show. Yeah, but I only like to look at one. Where's the card that was in it? Well, I tried to fix. Fix what? What was broken about it? Well, I tried to get it out, and then it's gone. I think you lost it, Brady. That's your present. And now that's you.
Dick Toledo
Also, I'm immune to Covid.
Brady
Yeah. Oh, my mom's immune to Covid. 71, breast cancer survivor. I don't need that shot. I had it last February. Oh, this was her logic. And I'm not kidding. This is the exact. A woman at my work had it last February. And then I was around her the whole time, and I didn't even catch it. And then later, it turned out she had the flu and. And I didn't catch that. I'm like. So she Never had Covid. Well, no, but we. We were around it. You're around her flu. Yeah, but it was in the time of COVID so that makes sense. I have the antibodies, and then her and my sister are sucking down that lamb oil or whatever it is. They've cured Covid. They just. And again, that logic. You've got me off on a thing now, Mom. What do you. Well, this oil I use makes you immune to Covid. I'm like, well, then fly to Sweden and get your Nobel Prize. You cured it with this potion. Yeah, but they don't want you to know about that.
Marcus
Who?
Brady
You know, they. Big medicine. I'm like, big medicine doesn't want you to know about this. No. And where did you get yours? Sprouts.
Brett Vesely
So Sprouts is the cure all.
Brady
Sprouts has the cure all that no one wants you to know about, but it's there. So now I'm talking to Brady, and I'm like, wait a second. What are we struggling with this trial for?
Marcus
You can get the oil for seven days for free.
Brady
Still too much back in the day when tigers used to put their dicks in milk. The old Korean parable. Anyway, Eddie, sorry I went off on that, but I'm struggling with you and your free trial nonsense. Stop it. Just go watch the show, and if it costs you nine bucks, I'll reimburse you the first month. It's free no matter what. How about that? In fact, Brady, here's $9 now for when you do mess this up.
Dick Toledo
Yes, that's at least 37 days.
Marcus
Right.
Brady
How do you have singles? These are my singles. Here's a. There's a lot of zeros after your singles. I don't have any singles. That would be embarrassing.
Marcus
Go halves these four months.
Brady
No, no, no. Settle down about breaking it down there. You got a free five dollars and a free trial. This is. This is five bucks in your pocket.
Marcus
Thanks, man.
Brady
Now quit complaining about getting locked into subscriptions. You'll see him at the vending machine in two minutes. Yeah, I heard.
Homework
Homework said that chicken salad's pretty good.
Brady
Anyway, now watch it. Starting today, you especially are gonna love it. Marcus will like it second, then Brett. I don't know if Toledo will follow. Somebody says you've worked with Toledo how long and you're just now finding this out? I wonder. That would be a revelation. It's like that Colton Underwood from the Bachelor. I know nobody's paying attention to the Bachelor, but he was a gay bachelor. Yeah, like he was a contestant. Well, he was a contestant. And then he was the Bachelor and now he's super gay and everybody's all, oh, and that's what.
Marcus
That's how much that show messed him up.
Brady
Wow, Brady, that's telling. Bigoted, but telling.
Homework
Turn him into one of them twinks.
Marcus
Look what happened.
Homework
One of God's failures, You know, guys.
Marcus
On a Twinkie box.
Brady
Yeah, no, he's. But we're never gonna see a straight, white male bachelor again. Those days are over. Now it's gonna be Gay Bachelor. I will watch Gay Bachelor because I'm curious what the ratings will be like. I think America soundly rejects Gay Bachelor because no one can relate to it, but nobody's gonna say it out loud. Yeah, the ratings will resort and I. And I don't think anybody's gonna do it because it's. You just can't relate to it. Like, the majority of people are still heterosexual. So I think people who can relate to a watch. But it's really.
Marcus
Bravo.
Brady
It's narrow casting. Exactly.
Brett Vesely
Good point.
Brady
Exactly. Right? It's just narrow casting your audience down to like, all right, there might already.
Marcus
Be a pilot out there. It's been being shot.
Brady
Merry effing holidays from the Big Red Radio.
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Brady
Because if you don't like gay Bachelor, it won't be because the the show's bad. It's because you're a bigot. So that's so no one will say, I'm just not watching it. It's because you're gay. Like, that's. It's because now it's a social movement rather than just, ah, I don't like the Bachelor. There's been years I'm like, I don't like the Bachelorette, so it's not interest. This last one, I didn't like the Bachelor. I thought that racist girl they ended up picking and then dumping at the end was adorable. But in the end of the day.
Marcus
Show would be gays Hell Kitchen. Hell's gonna Kitchen.
Brady
You know that kind of Gay's Hell Kitchen.
Marcus
Yeah.
Brady
How does that work? Go on pitch. Pitch it. Catch me.
Marcus
This show, it's just all gays working in the kitchen. And Gordon Ramsay, he's just going to town, you know.
Brady
How'S it different? What's different? Just the gay.
Marcus
Yeah. The fights that would happen, they already culinary perfection.
Brady
Add the interest of the gay part to me.
Marcus
Sell me the gay challenges.
Brett Vesely
It's a mock show.
Brady
It's a mock show. The teams that get together, they're gay. So it's the exact same show, only everybody on it is an abhorrent homosexual.
Marcus
Yes.
Brady
So you want it to be twink nightmares or what? I mean, hilarious.
Homework
Should just do Hell's Kitchen, cuz that's where they're all going to be.
Brady
That is the worst pitch I've ever heard for a show in my life. And I'd still buy it. Great stuff.
Homework
Gay Hell's Kitchen. Just get them used to it.
Brady
I don't think gay people are going to hell because they don't believe in hell.
Marcus
Male and female team Brady wants to.
Brady
Put them in the red team, blue team. We get it. We understand how Hell's Kitchen works. Adding nothing other than just gay Hell's Kitchen.
Tone
We're trying now new approach to Hell's Kitchen. Gay Hell's Kitchen.
Brady
Nothing changes.
Tone
Everyone's gay.
Brady
Why?
Marcus
Great.
Brady
Don't know.
Tone
Brady's idea. Terrible idea.
Brady
Get in there, homos.
Marcus
Cook.
Tone
You are flaming the grill isn't. What's wrong with this, you donkey. Ooh.
Brady
Ass. You know what I meant, you twink. Yeah, I don't understand your ideology about it.
Marcus
And what's the difference between the Gay Bachelor then?
Brady
What's the difference between Gay Bachelor? It's a love. It's a show about competing to find love cooking. And, well, you are just in love with food. More you consider the Hell's Kitchen to be more like the Bachelor running a tight restaurant.
Homework
You gotta fall in love with that plate of food.
Brady
The difference between gay Bachelor is it's a bachelor trying to find the love of his life by boning 30 other guys. Yours is just gay guys cooking, which is called porkopolis.
Dick Toledo
If the prize at the end of your show was the gay chef, then we'd have something.
Brady
There you go. Thank you, Richard. Right.
Dick Toledo
Because you can have all of your same stuff.
Marcus
But there's gotta be a winner gets a restaurant. It's the same season.
Brady
You're just adding gay to it.
Tone
It's dumb.
Brady
But I wouldn't be surprised if it's a show soon because we add gay to it and people. But I don't think Gay Bachelor works. I don't think people will. I just don't think it's relatable to most folks.
Brett Vesely
It could be on Bravo, though.
Marcus
Oh, yeah? Yeah.
Brady
Well, it's because it's narrow cast. So Bravo can afford to have an audience of 800,000 people. That's a success for them. Network TV. The Bachelor can't pull back 6 million people and say, oh, we'll go for a million.
Brett Vesely
I don't know. What's Fallon pulling these days?
Brady
Fallon's dying, so. Yeah, you're right.
Marcus
Yeah.
Brady
Brady. Your gay cooking show is called Brady and Guy Fieri Cook. This guy says, I had a transvestine in the mix at our work and we didn't know about it. We used to joke about stuff in front of him all the time. That's what I. That's what ran through my head when it became official yesterday. It's like, how many times did I make terrible. Because I know we have a guy here who's gay now who I didn't know was gay. We none of us knew for a long, long time. Or maybe I still don't know. No, no. Oh, yeah. That's yeah. Yeah. And. And, you know, I. I know we made What? Yeah, we made all. So, yeah, you're just now finding out Brady's. Brady's gay kitchen. But I sit and I actually, I told him, like, hey, if I ever said anything that made you feel really weird, like we were making really. We joke about everything. But I didn't if it was offensive. And he's like, no, I'm totally fine with it. I was in on the jokes. I was doing them. He said, I just. I hadn't come to grips with it. I'm like, okay. I'm just making sure that you're like, you don't hold anything against me. And never, ever hold anything against me again. Unless you mean it. Gay bachelor and gay's Hell's Kitchen is the same, Brady. One guy moaning 30 dudes to try to find a mate. How's that different than Ian's Friday nights? That's a good point.
Homework
They should also do gay who wants to be a millionaire? Or just gay guys answer questions.
Marcus
Gay survivor.
Brady
Nothing's different.
Homework
Should we have that opportunity for other guys to just get all horned up, start banging each other in the kitchen?
Brady
That opportunity exists now.
Marcus
Your challenge.
Tone
Your challenge is to try to keep your dick out of that guy. We're cooking. This isn't the Bachelor.
Marcus
Can you wrap your mouth around it?
Tone
Why are your hot dogs so huge? People can't eat these.
Brady
I thought this was what people wanted.
Tone
Ridiculous.
Brady
Anyway, Brady, you're an interesting man. Thanks for being on the show, pitching ideas. Pitching's a terrible idea. Don't know how it applies at all.
Marcus
More celebrity sad news. BJ Thomas, singer, Raindrops Keep Falling on My Head.
Brady
Fiend of Growing Pains.
Marcus
He's got stage four lung cancer. Wow.
Brady
Sounds so concerned.
Marcus
Wow. Tough one. It's a tough one to get through.
Brady
Sure is. Stage four. There ain't a stage five. Brady.
Marcus
Yeah. I had no idea Raindrops spent four weeks at number one on the Hot 100 1970. It was written by Burt Bacharach and Hal David for the movie Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid that will always.
Brady
Remind me of Monty Python. Leave that whisper Bacharach, and have David. It's a terrible old sketch of now all I can think about those show me that smile. He and Jennifer Warren. I think same. The growing themes. That's not even on there.
Tone
That's his biggest hit.
Brady
Played every Tuesday on ABC for, like, eight years.
Marcus
Yeah, they don't. I don't know. Are you sure that's him?
Brady
I'm positive It's Him? Don't you question me. It's television. Television theme songs in the 80s. I know it.
Marcus
Another somebody wrong song.
Tone
Don't interrupt BJ minute on your crying.
Brady
We're nowhere near winnowing anybody.
Tone
The best is ready to begin.
Marcus
Oh, I know the song.
Tone
As long as we got each other.
Marcus
I don't know that much.
Tone
We got the world.
Brady
John Gordon's on it. Wait a minute.
Marcus
I don't think it is him.
Brady
Well, they replaced it. They did two.
Brett Vesely
They did.
Brady
They replaced it later. Yeah, but it was originally beach. See, he even knew that.
Brett Vesely
Yeah, that was in season one. Yeah.
Brady
Yep.
Brett Vesely
All the other seasons they changed it.
Brady
Yep. But he wrote it. But they changed. They changed. Well, maybe he didn't write it, but he was part of it initially.
Brett Vesely
Steve Dorf wrote it.
Brady
Did he? Stephen Dorf wrote that? I would have never making bank flounder. Yeah. So BJ was part of it for a little bit, but the song was. Yeah, forever his, if you ask me. Cuz the first season, it's much longer and then they cut to that R shine much faster in the second.
Homework
All the time you want it.
Brady
And he was also part of of Ally McBeal somehow when they did that baby dance all the time.
Tone
Good champions. BJ's got a problem.
Brady
Mike.
Tone
We gotta kick him off his shoe.
Brady
Dad love growing things. I had a thing for Tracy Gold. She knew how to party.
Marcus
She know how to eat.
Brady
You know what? She was a cheap date. That's all I know. She just had a water and some fun.
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Brady
Gonna sell my house? Of course you have. And one reason or another, you just didn't do it.
John Holberg
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Brady
What do you do?
John Holberg
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Homework
Grab the phone and sing Hopkins 1-800-Sale Now.
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This episode of “Holmberg’s Morning Sickness” features the usual crew—John Holmberg, Brady Bogen, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo, and friends—riffing on the absurdities of digital subscription services, sharing stories about quirky moms, and lampooning reality TV (especially the concept of “Gay Bachelor” and “Gay Hell’s Kitchen”). The discussion touches on pop culture nostalgia, generational quirks, and the passing of singer B.J. Thomas, all in the trademark irreverent and playful tone HMS is known for.
[02:04–02:54]
Brett Vesely: “Oh, this effing guy putting his dick in my milk.” [02:28]
[02:54–05:51]
John Holmberg: “He doesn’t know how to cancel a subscription! Set a reminder in your goddamn iPhone.” [03:05, 03:08]
[04:44–06:48]
John Holmberg: “My mom’s digital frame is still in the box. At least that—that wouldn’t be... my mom took it out only because I opened it for her. ...Next time I’m there, there’s one bent picture just shoved in the thing.” [05:03–05:29]
[05:51–07:02]
John Holmberg: “My mom’s immune to COVID. 71, breast cancer survivor. ...This oil I use makes you immune to COVID. ...Well then fly to Sweden and get your Nobel Prize. You cured it with this potion.” [05:51–06:40]
[07:55–14:26]
John Holmberg: “We’re never gonna see a straight, white male bachelor again. Those days are over. Now it’s gonna be Gay Bachelor.” [08:39]
Brady: “I will watch Gay Bachelor because I’m curious what the ratings will be like. ...I think America soundly rejects Gay Bachelor because no one can relate to it, but nobody’s going to say it out loud.” [08:53]
Tone: “You are flaming the grill isn’t—what’s wrong with this, you donkey. Ooh.” [13:01] John Holmberg: “Yours is just gay guys cooking, which is called Porkopolis.” [13:32] Dick Toledo: “If the prize at the end of your show was the gay chef, then we’d have something.” [13:45]
[14:26–15:45]
John Holmberg: “If I ever said anything that made you feel really weird... we joke about everything. But if it was offensive... He’s like, ‘No, I’m totally fine with it. ...I was in on the jokes.’” [15:02]
[15:45–16:25]
Homework: “Should we have that opportunity for other guys to just get all horned up, start banging each other in the kitchen?” [15:58]
[16:34–18:44]
Brady: “Stage four. There ain’t a stage five.” [16:53]
Brett Vesely: “Yeah, that was in season one. ...All the other seasons, they changed it.” [18:12]
The episode is off-the-cuff, brash, and cheerfully mocking, with the team riffing on each other’s quirks and poking fun at pop culture, societal trends, and generational foibles. The hosts maintain a strong banter, don’t shy from political incorrectness, but loop back to camaraderie and self-deprecation.
This summary captures the episode’s wild energy, the arc of its conversations, and key soundbites—making it accessible and enjoyable even to new listeners.