12-31-25 - BR - MIX - List Of Most Fun Cities In The Country Includes Toledo - Chi Chis Restaurants Closing Finally - Dec 2024 - BO

Summary

Podcast Summary: Holmberg's Morning Sickness (12-31-25)

Episode Theme:
This episode features the crew of Holmberg’s Morning Sickness diving into America's most "fun" cities, legendary chain restaurants making comebacks (notably, Chi Chi’s), peculiar state laws, lottery drama, and a characteristic blend of local humor and nostalgia. The hosts riff on cultural oddities, food safety, and the randomness of American geography with their trademark banter.

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1. America’s Most Fun Cities (01:56–04:37)

Key Discussion:

• Byron presents a new study ranking U.S. cities by "fun" based on 65 metrics, including proximity to bowling alleys and frozen yogurt shops.
• Top 10 most fun cities:
  • Las Vegas, Orlando, Miami, Atlanta, New Orleans, Austin, San Francisco, Chicago, Houston, and New York.
• Toledo, Ohio, unexpectedly makes the cut as a cheap fun city.

Memorable Moments & Quotes:

• [02:33] Brett Vesely: “And one of them was cities. Again. He did that again.”
• [02:53] Byron: “Vegas ranks first for nightlife and parties.”
• [03:28] Brett (on Toledo): “Jamie Farr's house and the Jeep dealerships that are massive.”
• [04:38] Brett: “They signed a contract to not have the sun in Toledo that week you were there. I said Toledo’s the Algonquin word for absence of blue sky.”

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2. Lottery Drama: The Missing Millions (04:51–08:36)

Key Discussion:

• The $395 million California lottery, split between two tickets, nearly saw half unclaimed.
• The winner, Fairmarts Lahajani, claims he bought both tickets; now he's suing the state for the second half, asserting he made two transactions.
• The hosts debate entitlement and transparency with lottery protocols.

Memorable Moments & Quotes:

• [05:39] Brett: “Why didn't he say that in the beginning? Same numbers.”
• [06:13] Byron: “He’s now suing the state of California for the other half.”
• [07:24] Brett: “If you and I won the lottery and you never claimed your half, when the time comes, the other half's mine. I won the lottery.”

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3. Odd Laws Across America (09:51–12:39)

Key Discussion:

• The team reviews the strange laws still on the books in various states, ranging from Arizona’s ban on rigged claw machines to Indiana's anti-noodling stance.

Notable Examples:

• Alabama: Illegal to dress as a priest/nun unless real.
• Arizona: It’s unlawful to rig claw machine games.
• California: You can’t eat frogs that died in a frog-jumping contest.
• Colorado: Indoor furniture can’t be used outdoors.
• Delaware: Whispering in church can get you in trouble if it disrupts service.
• Florida: Illegal to feed wild alligators.
• Indiana: Noodling and fishing with dynamite are illegal.

Memorable Moments & Quotes:

• [10:21] Brett (on claw machines): “Wait a minute. We're the only… like, other states don't have a ban against that?”
• [11:07] Brett: “They don't have hillbillies in Colorado. Yeah, exactly.”
• [11:38] Byron: “In Indiana, noodling… hillbilly hand fishing… it's illegal.”

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4. The Dolly Steamboat Rant (14:50–17:45)

Key Discussion:

• Extended riffing on the "Dolly Steamboat" attraction at Canyon Lake, Arizona, with the hosts joking about the monotony and lack of excitement.
• Imagined improvements include a Boom Boom Room or renaming it for a more dramatic fate.

Memorable Moments & Quotes:

• [15:00] Brett: “The only time I would go on that again is if they changed the name to the Dolly Lusitania and it was guaranteed to be U-boated out of the water.”
• [16:04] Brett: “I wanted to bash my head into those rocks. … The hanging rope’s coming up here soon. Unfortunately, it’s been used so much, it’s not stable anymore.”

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5. Chi Chi's Restaurant: Infamous Resurgence (19:06–26:46)

Key Discussion:

• Chi Chi’s, a once-popular Mexican restaurant chain notorious for a hepatitis outbreak in the early 2000s, is planning a comeback after being shut down due to foodborne illness that killed four people and sickened hundreds.
• The gang debates food safety, nostalgia, and why some chains shouldn't return.

Memorable Moments & Quotes:

• [19:51] Brett: “Chi Cheese? Did we have them here?”
• [20:11] Byron: “Green onions, that’s right.”
• [21:16] Brett: “Jodi Arias only killed one guy and she can't come back. Why can't she?”
• [23:03] Brett: “Chi Cheese, it’s boobs. … Chi Chi’s is back, remember? They stopped killing and they're gonna serve up some hot Mexican slop for you.”
• [24:39] Byron: “There are several chains that have survived murder. The hepatitis.”
• [25:27] Byron: “I thought someone… There’s a couple places that had the hepatitis.”
• [25:48] Brett: “Somebody’s killing somebody with dirty hepatitis… Were they growing it at Sodomy Gulch or what over there?”

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6. Food Poisoning vs. Hepatitis: Where’s the Line? (24:50–27:44)

Key Discussion:

• Debate on whether widespread food poisoning incidents (e.g., Jack in the Box’s E. Coli outbreak) are the same as deadly hepatitis outbreaks.
• General consensus: Food poisoning and hepatitis are not the same; the latter is much more serious and preventable.

Memorable Moments & Quotes:

• [25:48] Brett: "Hepatitis is not something you can get as a foodborne illness unless something terrible is going on. It's hard to get hepatitis from food. … Hepatitis. You're doing some work."
• [26:46] Brett: "We got… you should be over that by now. Mel Brooks gonna be their spokesman. We fired the guy with hepatitis, so the food was better."

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7. Notable Anecdotes and Banter

• Recurring jokes about "wolf babies," odd childhood foods, and growing up with questionable chain restaurants.
• Return of 80s nostalgia with jokes about Jodi Arias, fast-food scandals, and regional quirks.
• Extended mockery of calendar oddities, like "WTF" starting days for 2025.

Quote:

• [23:35] Brady: “This might explain a lot, but I grew up in Michigan in the 80s and 90s, and we had a Chi Chi’s. It was my first exposure to quote unquote Mexican food, if you can call it that.”
• [27:44] Brett: "If they had a simple outbreak of hepatitis, a bunch of people died, you gotta shut that restaurant down anyway. Just come back and call it the Jodi Arias Mexican Restaurant. Have some fun with it."

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Episode Highlights by Timestamp

• 01:56–04:37: Fun cities and Toledo mockery
• 04:51–08:36: Lottery saga
• 09:51–12:39: Wacky state laws
• 14:50–17:45: Dolly Steamboat rant
• 19:06–26:46: Chi Chi's comeback, food safety debate
• 24:50–27:44: Food poisoning vs. hepatitis

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Overall Tone:
Sarcastic, irreverent, unfiltered, regionally flavored, and packed with inside jokes and pop culture references.

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For More:
Listen to the episode for full stories, banter, and unexpected tangents—a signature of Holmberg's Morning Sickness on 98KUPD.

Transcript

[Brett Vesely]

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[Brett Vesely]

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[Byron]

Good Wednesday morning to you, Phoenix. Hello, world.

[Brett Vesely]

Hi.

[Byron]

A study ranked the most fun cities in America based on 65 metrics. They factored in how far you travel to get your closest bowling alley or frozen yogurt shop.

[Brett Vesely]

He's ready to bash his head into the rocks of the deli steamboat right there.

[Byron]

According to the results, the 10 most based on fun cities, 65 different, like, restaurants. Say that again. But that was one of them. One of the factors. 65 different metrics.

[Brett Vesely]

And one of them was cities. Again. He did that again.

[Byron]

The 10 most fun cities in America.

[Brett Vesely]

Go ahead.

[Byron]

Las Vegas, Orlando, Miami, Atlanta, New Orleans, Austin, San Francisco, Chicago, Houston and New York.

[Brady]

Wait a minute.

[Byron]

One more time.

[Brady]

Is Orlando higher than Las Vegas?

[Byron]

Las Vegas was first.

[Ralphie]

Ah, okay.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, you went one to ten. Yeah. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, Orlando's too, because of the Disney World.

[Byron]

Vegas ranks first for nightlife and parties.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[Brady]

Have you been to the Orlando Disney?

[Brett Vesely]

No, it's too big.

[Byron]

They also rank city according to how much it costs to have fun. And that's your main concern. Start planning a trip to Toledo, Ohio.

[Brett Vesely]

There's no one ever.

[Byron]

The five cheapest cities for fun. Toledo, Wichita, Montgomery, Alabama. Fayetteville, North Carolina and Oklahoma City.

[Brett Vesely]

Jamie Farr's house and the Jeep dealerships that are massive.

[Byron]

What's there to do in Toledo?

[Brett Vesely]

That's it. They build Jeeps there.

[Brady]

They build the Jeep Liberty there.

[Byron]

TGI Fridays right off of.

[Brady]

Now, I think that one closed.

[Brett Vesely]

You drive around in a tour bus and look at places Jamie Farr's visited, because for some reason, they're real proud of Jamie Farr being from Toledo.

[Brady]

No, there was a. What is that place that was on by Fiesta Mall.

[Ralphie]

Bennegan's.

[Brady]

They had a Bennegan's. That's basically TGIF light.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah. Maybe an Alan Alda impersonator drives you around. And this is where Klinger had his first. It was a wonderful day. Over here. This is a shower Klinger used to use. It's a. It wasn't really Klinger, though.

[Ralphie]

No, not at the time.

[Brett Vesely]

It was Jamie Farr. This was his entire. This tour sucks. Yeah. You're in Toledo. What else are you gonna point out?

[Brady]

You're right. I'm not arguing. University of Toledo.

[Brett Vesely]

The Rockets Rocket. The Mudhead Stadium.

[Brady]

I guess that is nice.

[Byron]

It is, right?

[Brett Vesely]

All right, calm down. You were in Toledo. Everything that had decency was felt like the Taj Mahal. I've been there. They don't have the sun.

[Brady]

You didn't go to the stadium.

[Brett Vesely]

They signed a Contract to not have the sun in Toledo that week that you were there. Oh, my God. I've never. I said it. I said, toledo's the Algonquin word for absence of blue sky.

[Byron]

Last week, we heard about the missing lottery ticket. Had one day left to turn it in. 197 million. And if it doesn't get turned in, it goes to the schools in California.

[Brett Vesely]

That's what they say.

[Byron]

A year ago, In December of 2023, two tickets were sold at a gas station in Encino, California. It was 395 million. Guy named Fairmarts Lahajani.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, boy.

[Byron]

Had one of the winning tickets, see something, say something. He got half of it. 197 and a half million. And last week, it sounded like the other ticket would go unclaimed.

[Brett Vesely]

Guy showed up.

[Byron]

Fair Marts showed back up and said, I bought both tickets.

[Brett Vesely]

Why didn't he say that in the beginning? Same numbers.

[Byron]

Great question. Yeah, that's what they're saying.

[Brett Vesely]

Like, why'd you wait until it's Gammin?

[Byron]

He said he used the same numbers and he made two transactions because the lottery doesn't allow a single sale.

[Brett Vesely]

Right.

[Byron]

So he bought two tickets with the same number on them. Like produce a ticket.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah. Where's.

[Byron]

Don't you have records of me purchasing the ticket?

[Brett Vesely]

Who's on both?

[Byron]

Yeah. And he goes, you look that up, you'll see.

[Brett Vesely]

And he told you where he bought.

[Byron]

They don't have that. So he's now suing the state of.

[Brett Vesely]

California, saying that for the other half.

[Byron]

The other half.

[Brett Vesely]

You know, in a way, he's got a point. Even if he didn't buy the other ticket.

[Byron]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

If you and I won the lottery and you never claimed your half, when the time comes, the other half's mine. I won the lottery.

[Byron]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

If the other winner doesn't come forward, the whole jackpot's mine.

[Byron]

Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

If nobody wins, the schools get it.

[Byron]

So he hasn't given an interview, and the lottery officials won't comment on it publicly, so.

[Brady]

Yeah, because they know they're in the wrong.

[Brett Vesely]

Other than that, I got to give credit where credit's due. Brady did research on this. I mean, he had answers. It did have answers. He also had a second page which tells me that that thing showed up with answers. Here are your answers. Trying to get props if anyone asks questions. Interesting, because. Yeah, I. I would be. If I was the lottery guy, I would sue them for saying, hey, just because the other guy didn't claim his ticket doesn't mean I didn't win you give me the unclaimed because I picked all six numbers. I wouldn't go in there with the scam. If I bought two tickets of the same numbers, I'd say that's mine too. That I won the jackpot of $395 million. You say you sold two tickets, the other guy didn't claim it. Now it's all mine.

[Brady]

You know it'll drastically change this show when Brady discovers Gemini AI. Five o' clock in the morning.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh no.

[Brady]

Answer his questions.

[Brett Vesely]

Well, you have to ask questions in the first place. We ask the questions. That's what makes this so golden.

[Brady]

Jim and I won't teach him how to ask questions. I guess you're right there.

[Brett Vesely]

Answer questions he doesn't have yet. You're right, but I'm. I almost want to go over to California and lobby for this sound terror sounding name of the man who won the lottery. Yeah, no.

[Byron]

Take the money away from.

[Brett Vesely]

The kids in, in, in Encino. No, they pay enough taxes in California. I don't care. There's plenty of weeks that the lottery doesn't have a winner and that just means more tax money. That's what that thing. It's all designed to have winners. They don't rely on no claims. That's not what the lottery is. No claims is gravy to the lottery. Oh yeah, but if somebody won it and another guy didn't claim, if two people wanted the one that did claim, it gets the whole thing. The lottery's not sitting back going well another 200 million, nobody claimed. Good for us. That's a. Well, you're supposed to get the money.

[Byron]

Every week winning tickets.

[Brett Vesely]

I know, yeah but if so, I don't know.

[Byron]

But if they could in state and say, well if one doesn't come forward.

[Brett Vesely]

That'S how it should be when they say you're going to win 395 million if you have the ticket. And you'll split it if other people have the ticket too. Well if nobody has the other ticket, they just say that. They'd say that every time. Oh, we had two sold tickets just to keep half. They can't prove they didn't.

[Byron]

And what if they look, I mean.

[Brett Vesely]

The lotteries find could be lying. The whole thing is designed to get us to pay for taxes, the poor people's tax. And then every once in a while they give one guy a bunch of money but they take all that money back. That's. That was it. Sounds like California's running scam for the.

[Byron]

I don't know, the Power Boat. There you go. I think that was last night.

[Brett Vesely]

Got the Power Bone. I like that Powerball. Oh, okay. I like yours better.

[Brady]

Watching Annie Knight videos tonight.

[Brett Vesely]

The drawing for the Power Bone. I mean, ball. Sorry, Ronnie. Cat's out of the bag for our Wednesday Power Bone. I gotta draw for it, though.

[Brady]

Does it roll over Brady, if I.

[Brett Vesely]

Take it one of those magic eight balls. Is tonight the night for the Power Bone? Signs say no. Ask again. Ask again later.

[Byron]

Someone just reposted the oddest laws that are still on the books. In some states, like in Alabama, it's against the law to dress up as a priest or nun unless you really are one. It even applies on Halloween.

[Brett Vesely]

Why so? Because people might tell you secrets.

[Byron]

Arizona has a law that specifically bans rigging claw machine games so they're impossible to win.

[Brady]

Pretty impossible.

[Brett Vesely]

Wait a minute. We're the only. We have a. Like, other states don't have a ban against that.

[Byron]

Like.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, yeah, you can. Totally.

[Byron]

That's what I want.

[Brett Vesely]

People's money. The things. Rig. Rig it, right? No, but you're rigging a game. That's like. By definition, that's illegal. Yeah, there's a law against anything that costs you money. That is a fixed outcome. I don't know what you're talking about. I know.

[Byron]

That's what I.

[Brett Vesely]

Look over here. That's what I'm talking about. If it's already predetermined, you shouldn't have to pay for it. That's the whole point.

[Byron]

In California, you're allowed to eat frogs unless they died in a frog jumping competition.

[Brady]

Calabasas.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, that's. I remember that. It's a revered thing.

[Byron]

In Colorado, you can't use indoor furniture as outdoor furniture. I meet the person that got a ticket for that.

[Brett Vesely]

They don't have hillbillies in Colorado. Yeah, exactly.

[Byron]

In Delaware, whispering in church is technically illegal if it disrupts the service.

[Brady]

And you got a mean pastor if he's.

[Brett Vesely]

That's it. You're going to jail. No forgiveness on that one.

[Byron]

Of all the states, Florida actually has the most appropriate. And it makes sense. It's illegal to feed wild alligators.

[Brett Vesely]

Brady, you'd do it. You're a law abiding citizen. But that one you would do.

[Byron]

In Indiana, noodling. Also hillbilly hand fishing. It's illegal.

[Brady]

In what state?

[Byron]

Indiana. You also cannot fish with dynamite. Again, evidently had to put it on.

[Brett Vesely]

The books because they had to put it on the. They thought, we just know better. But then my family in Indiana said, hey, you Know we'd get some fish faster if we just blew up the lake. And they used to. They used to be a big thing. There was a big deal where the fish would settle in this spot in Cedar Lake, Indiana. And there was like a little like it was like a strange waterfall and like a pond that came off of Cedar Lake and it turned into like a small stream and there was a ton of carp. And then something else, some other type of fish was in there. And they. You could. And they'd go and scoop them out with nets. And the cops would have to go over and go, you can't do that. It's illegal. Like they would stop them from doing it. Like you had to actually fish for it to keep it. It was a. And boy, man, there weren't cops around. People would run down there with nets and scoop them out.

[Byron]

The only American president to own a patent. Abraham Lincoln. When he was a lawyer, he patented a flat bottom boat design. But it never went to market.

[Brett Vesely]

Do we use them today?

[Byron]

No, but they're big. The flat bottom boats delivered a lot of goods. They use the canals when Lincoln was just not his. Just not his.

[Brett Vesely]

So he made money off of it. He had the patent on the floor.

[Byron]

But it never went to market. So you can patent that design, but if you never build it, is it still active?

[Brady]

Does like.

[Byron]

I'm sure that's over.

[Brett Vesely]

Stealing the idea. If someone else built it.

[Byron]

You can't steal that design.

[Brett Vesely]

But I'm sure Trump's got a flat bottom boat.

[Brady]

Trump does?

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah.

[Byron]

But he could have something different on it. You know, be able to steer it or to.

[Brett Vesely]

Then wouldn't he be invented something other than the flat bottom part. Maybe the flat bottom with the thing. So they invented a different kind. I'm gonna look into this Dolly steamboat. A flat bottom boat. No, it's a stupid wheel.

[Byron]

Paddle.

[Brett Vesely]

Paddle wheel dump. Messy. Don't do it. Don't you dare do it. I wouldn't do. No, I'm turning it down. Merry effing holidays from the big Red radio kupd.

[Brady]

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[Brett Vesely]

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[Byron]

We're still a month away from 2025, but if you've. I think 2024 was a rough year, Brett.

[Brett Vesely]

I knew you were gonna eventually. Yeah, he was just digging around. I saw what he was up. What? Searching for that goddamn Dolly Steamboat song. Oh, the only time I If the only time I would go on that again. Oh, it's our annual hate of the Dolly steamboat. I would only go on it if they changed the name to the Dolly Lusitania and it was guaranteed to be U boated out of the water. Oh, right. Places.

[Brady]

Two heads.

[Brett Vesely]

Two heads. We'll be traveling at about one mile an hour for the next 11 hours. Enjoy the nothingness of Canyon Lake. Release the animals to your right. There may be a mountain ghost. Nope, just another rock. Enjoy all the rocks that you saw driving in the exact same way. You see it now, only at the breakneck speed of one.

[Byron]

It's too cold for those critters now.

[Brett Vesely]

I wanted to bash my head into those rocks. If you'd like a drink, they're complimentary with your Dolly Steamboat ticket and M&Ms. And snacks are provided at $33 a box. Once again, we'll be traveling at the speed of one for the rest of eternity. The hanging rope's coming up here soon. Unfortunately, it's been used so much, it's not stable anymore.

[Byron]

They could up that game if they have the second deck as the Boom Boom Room.

[Brett Vesely]

The Rah Rah Room, Brady. The Boom Boom Room. No black people are going on that. No black people are going to Canyon Lake for a slow paddle boat ride. That reminds them of way too much stuff.

[Byron]

On a fantastic voyage.

[Brett Vesely]

You know what? How you doing? Oh, I see we have a lot of African Americans here. Welcome. Nothing makes you guys more comfortable than slow boats going nowhere. Captain Doughboy will be in charge today, and we're gonna have some courvoisier for all of you before it's all over. Oh, the imagery of the late 1800s water travel. I'm sure that makes you guys feel great. Yeah. The Boom Boom Room. Massive failure. Oh, that's stupid.

[Byron]

Why is that below deck, Brett, Head.

[Brett Vesely]

On down those stairs there. Don't forget to shut the door behind you. Oh, Dolly Steamboat Good. So bug on Hennessy right now. Oh, I would throw a drone right into the side of that thing.

[Byron]

Someone noticed on the 2025 calendar it starts on a Wednesday. So the first three days, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, WTF. Every week. Like it happened in 2020 too?

[Brett Vesely]

No, no, it happens every week that Wednesday, Thursday and Friday are WTF.

[Byron]

January 1st. Stupid 2025. Wednesday.

[Brett Vesely]

Just ride the dolly steamboat. It's just as bad. You know what?

[Ralphie]

That might.

[Brett Vesely]

You know what? It's not as bad as you thought, is it? If anyone tries to talk you into going to that, don't do it. Every week has Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

[Byron]

So one happened in May this year.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah, tons of months start on Wednesday.

[Brady]

And November.

[Byron]

Last year they're starting about January 1st.

[Brett Vesely]

We get it. It's just another month and it's. Nothing crashes about eaten by mountain goats.

[Brady]

Is that a torpedo in the water?

[Brett Vesely]

I hope so. Hey, look like we got a German yield boat hanging around here in the canyon, Mike. Hopefully it doesn't kill us all. Speak for yourself. Come on. Come on.

[Byron]

You crouch.

[Brett Vesely]

Put one through this thing.

[Byron]

After 20 years, Chi Chi's restaurant is making a comeback.

[Brett Vesely]

What's Chichi's restaurant?

[Byron]

It's a Mexican restaurant that was popular in the. Yeah. 70s and 80s.

[Brady]

There was a couple.

[Byron]

It started Minnesota. There were a couple they went up to.

[Brett Vesely]

When I think of Minnesota, I think of Mexico, I think of their tamales.

[Brady]

Started by one of the Green Bay Packers.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, was it.

[Byron]

Yeah, the founder.

[Brett Vesely]

Was it the guy who was with the girl? The. Mark Chamura.

[Brady]

No, no, no, no, no. Like a. Like an old school.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Byron]

Is the son of the original owner, which is Marno McDermott. McDermott. And he opened the restaurants in 1976.

[Brett Vesely]

Chi Cheese.

[Byron]

They closed pretty quick.

[Brett Vesely]

Did we have them here?

[Byron]

They had the largest hepatitis breakout in the. I forget what. It was the world in. In the vegetables there.

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, you forget what the hepatitis was?

[Byron]

Yeah, it was. But it was a restaurant that caused green onions.

[Brett Vesely]

Was it onions?

[Byron]

Green onions, that's right.

[Brett Vesely]

Four people died, Correct? Only four people died. And that's the largest one. That's pretty good.

[Byron]

Four people that died and over a hundred people.

[Brady]

Seven hundred.

[Brett Vesely]

How do you know this? Wait, you already read the story. What are you reading? Nothing. Obviously. Yeah.

[Byron]

They said hundreds of people got sick and four died.

[Brady]

Hundreds. More than a hundred.

[Brett Vesely]

Let me see that. Here we go. It's just. Is it a quick one? No, It's Chichi's thing. 20 years.

[Byron]

Hundreds of people got.

[Brett Vesely]

100 people got sick in Ford Shane was basically defunct within a few months. Well, why would we want this back?

[Byron]

For the fried ice cream.

[Brett Vesely]

I mean, the one quite literally killed people. And like, hey, come back, city baby.

[Byron]

There's still Chichi's. I think you can buy the salsa in grocery stores. They still have the Brady. Yeah.

[Brett Vesely]

Jodi Arias only killed one guy and she can't come back. Why can't she?

[Byron]

That's a dumping up. And they want to, you know, listen to it. Look at this.

[Brett Vesely]

You're defending a place that murdered four people and sickened over 700, and this is an announcement? This is why your kids are fat. This is why America's got a problem. We let a murderer reopen his restaurant.

[Ralphie]

Ralphie Mae, pot down.

[Brett Vesely]

Skinny.

[Ralphie]

Nobody needs to hear from you right now. Chi Cheese was gone. Four people's guts couldn't handle the deliciousness and they dropped out. It's called Darwinism.

[Byron]

Stay here, Ralphie.

[Ralphie]

Hey, Brady, you're with me on this. Maybe 700 got sick from the food, but thousands of us got sick to our stomachs when we heard they were closing. Bring it back.

[Byron]

It's a great point.

[Ralphie]

Thank you. I understand how fat man thinks. It's a beautiful thing. Jodi Arias ain't coming back. Cause she's a murderer. It's like if Travis put the knife at him and blamed her. That's Chi Chi's. You had to eat it, Ralphie.

[Byron]

Sorry, you can't partake in this, but you'll be happy for other people. Okay. Wendy's brings back the beloved three dollar keychain that gets customers unlimited free frosties. In 2025, we had one pretty, pretty close.

[Ralphie]

Unlimited Frosties?

[Byron]

Yep. One a day.

[Ralphie]

I'm gonna test the boundaries of that marketing plan. I will show you what unlimited looks like. There will be limits. All right, I gotta go. Ready? You keep telling about cheats.

[Byron]

See it, Ralphie.

[Ralphie]

Hey, we're bringing back 80s Tylenol while we're at it.

[Brady]

But we have a Chi Chi's. It's in central Phoenix. It's a cabaret. But we've got Chi Cheese.

[Brett Vesely]

Chi Cheese, it's boobs. What in the world are we thinking? Chi Chi's is back, remember? They've stopped killing and they're gonna serve up some hot Mexican slop for you. I don't want the restaurant to be back. I never heard of it in the first place. I don't think we had them here. I don't think we did. If we did, we weren't going to. And good for us. We're still alive. You don't get that second chance. You have to at least change your name. If you killed four patrons and 700 died.

[Byron]

Bember Berry.

[Brett Vesely]

If you don't get 20 years off, come out and go, are my clothes still in style? I'd like to start over, John.

[Brady]

This might explain a lot, but I grew up in Michigan in the 80s and 90s, and we had a Chi Chi's. It was my first exposure to quote unquote, Mexican food, if you can call it that.

[Brett Vesely]

And four people died and. And they want to. They want to come back. Break out the Feldman, Holmberg. This is the comeback king.

[Ralphie]

I'm a comeback come back king.

[Brett Vesely]

Would you go to Chi Chi's?

[Byron]

I went to Chi Chi's numerous times growing up.

[Brett Vesely]

And then they killed some people and they need to go away.

[Brady]

That was in Pittsburgh. He wasn't anywhere near Pittsburgh.

[Byron]

Okay.

[Brett Vesely]

It doesn't matter. When a McDonald's can't kill people and go away for a year or two and come back.

[Byron]

Yeah. It wasn't like blown away by Chi Chi's by any means.

[Brett Vesely]

Jodi Arias did one. She's never getting out. Chi Chi's Four plus hundreds, almost. You're done. Papa John's had the decency to take out an apostrophe. At the very least, they changed something. Chi Chi's. You want to come back? Don't come back as cheap.

[Byron]

Several chains that have survived murder. The hepatitis.

[Brady]

Jack in the Box.

[Brett Vesely]

Well, Jack in the Box didn't survive hepatitis. They had horse meat and kangaroo because they were buying from a different source.

[Byron]

Now they had E Coli.

[Brady]

Huge.

[Brett Vesely]

E Coli is different than hepatitis. Died. E Coli is different than hepatitis.

[Byron]

That was a different people.

[Brett Vesely]

Food poisoning is a risk you take with food. Hepatitis is something that you shouldn't be getting from food. There's something that's a murder. That's a murder. That's different. E Coli is just unprepared, prepared poorly. It happens. Not the same. Hepatitis is not something you can get as a foodborne illness. Unless something's terrible is going on. It's hard to get hepatitis from food. E Coli is like, ah, they had a, you know, bad meat. It sat out for a couple hours. Hepatitis. You're doing some work.

[Byron]

I thought someone. I thought, there's a couple places that had the hepatitis.

[Brett Vesely]

If you can't remember them, it's because they went away.

[Byron]

I forgot about the cheese. Now. Now I remember.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah. And when the first thing you think of, oh, Chichi's the place that killed people. Are they coming back?

[Brady]

Hepatitis gets into the food system through feces or blood of an infected person or animal.

[Brett Vesely]

Yeah. It's not easy to just. It's. Somebody's killing somebody with dirty hepatitis. Getting on the food from dirty hand. Yeah, well, it's beyond dirty hands. They have to have hepatitis with their dirty, bloody hands to get it into the food. Were they growing it at Sodomy Gulch or what over there? I mean, hepatitis. That's horrible.

[Brady]

Texter says. By the way, can you clarify something for me? Did the DNA donor of Andre the Giant just say he wouldn't risk a wolf baby?

[Brett Vesely]

Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah.

[Byron]

See.

[Brett Vesely]

It'S worth the risk. 50. 50 shot. Your kid comes out of wolf boy, you put them in oxidil. Yeah, We've all had food poisoning. We all don't get hepatitis from a meal. That's terribly. That's horrifying. Guess who's back. Back, back, back again. Chi Chi's back. What up, everybody? Remember us with chi cheese? We killed four in the past.

[Ralphie]

We got.

[Brett Vesely]

You should be over that by now. Melbourne's gonna be their spokesman. We fired the guy with hepatitis, so the food was better.

[Brady]

John, you're talking about risk with someone who goes to the taco spot in El Centro.

[Brett Vesely]

Isn't that weird?

[Byron]

That is true.

[Brett Vesely]

You'll visit any restaurant you're given, but you won't even rub minoxidil in the 50.50 shot of wolf baby.

[Byron]

Yeah. Apples and oranges.

[Brett Vesely]

Not really. Well, those are both fruits, so they're very comparable. I've never understood that argument. Apples and oranges are both fruits. We can compare them around comparable fruits. Different colors, different taste. Comparable. You don't want to kill people with your restaurant. This says IHOP and Denny's have killed thousands over the years. I don't believe that to be true. If it was thousands dead from IHOP in one thing. From one thing, maybe over the years, plenty of people have gotten flaming out, bro. No, it's not flaming out.

[Ralphie]

If you.

[Brett Vesely]

I know we're defending food here, but if IHOP's been around for 70 years, and in that time, you know somebody's over, they've had a heart attack or they've overdone it. That's one offs all the way through. But if they had a simple outbreak of hepatitis, a bunch of people died. You got to shut that restaurant down anyway, just come back and call it the Jodi Arias Mexican Restaurant. Have some fun with it. Arizona's most powerful, powerful rock radio station.