BEST OF HMS PODCASTS - TUESDAY - December 31, 2024 - Brady Doesn't Give Wedding Gifts Unless You Pass A Year - December 2022

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Episode Title: BEST OF HMS PODCASTS - TUESDAY - December 31, 2024 - Brady Doesn't Give Wedding Gifts Unless You Pass A Year - December 2022
Release Date: December 31, 2024
Host: John Holmberg
Co-Hosts: Brady Bogan, Bret Vesely, Dick Toledo

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Overview

In this standout episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness (HMS), host John Holmberg and co-host Brady Bogan delve into the unconventional topic of wedding gift-giving etiquette. The discussion centers around Brady's unique rule: he refrains from giving wedding gifts unless the marriage endures beyond a year. This policy sparks a lively debate among the hosts, blending humor with insightful commentary on relationships and social expectations.

Key Discussions

Brady's Wedding Gift Rule

Brady Bogan introduces his firm stance on wedding gifts, stating, “I never heard that. I mean, I feel guilty if I don't show up with an envelope. You gotta hand the envelope” (02:32). He elaborates that he withholds gifts until a couple's marriage has stood the test of time, specifically reaching the six to seven-month mark. This approach aims to ensure that gifts are meaningful and reserved for relationships that show promise and longevity.

Hosts' Reactions and Experiences

John Holmberg and Bret Vesely express both surprise and admiration for Brady's method. Bret remarks, “But for you of all people, after it happens a couple of times... It’s a very bold and borderline confrontational move you've made” (02:21). The conversation shifts to personal anecdotes, where John shares his experiences with weddings that didn’t last, highlighting the complications that arise from early gift-giving. He humorously recounts, “That wedding we went to wasn’t cheap. No, it was nice... But I found out I was getting a divorce from her brother...” (07:30).

The Economics of Gift-Giving

The hosts discuss the financial and emotional implications of wedding gifts. John points out the shift from traditional gifts like toasters and flatware to modern registries that often lead to multiple or redundant gifts, especially when individuals marry multiple times. He muses, “Now you get people getting married for a second, third, fourth time, and they have the gall desk for a present” (05:12), emphasizing how this can lead to unnecessary expenses and complications.

Divorce and Gift Returns

A significant portion of the episode explores the intersection of wedding gifts and divorce. John shares a story where his ex-wife unilaterally returned wedding gifts a year after their split, leading to financial disputes. “Well, that was an amazing, amazing idea. But... she cut him a check trying to pay him back” (07:30). The hosts debate the fairness and practicality of such actions, with Brady supporting the idea by saying, “You smoked us” (03:44), indicating that it circumvented traditional gift-giving expectations.

Humorous Banter and Audience Engagement

Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain a light-hearted and humorous tone, engaging in playful teasing and witty exchanges. For instance, when discussing the absurdity of multiple wedding invitations, John jokes, “Weddings are like funerals to me. You got one, I'm going to one of them. That's it” (14:12). This humor not only entertains listeners but also underscores the complexities of social obligations surrounding weddings.

Notable Quotes

• Brady Bogan (02:32): “I never heard that. I mean, I feel guilty if I don't show up with an envelope. You gotta hand the envelope.”

• John Holmberg (05:01): “That's called divorce. That's 10 years down the road. She still gets all the wedding.”

• Bret Vesely (10:30): “I feel bad in a way, but, no, it's not his Fault. I basically paid for the minister.”

• John Holmberg (14:33): “Weddings are like funerals to me. You got one, I'm going to one of them. That's it.”

Insights and Conclusions

The episode offers a critical look at the traditional norms of wedding gift-giving, questioning their relevance and practicality in modern relationships. Brady’s rule serves as a catalyst for discussing how societal expectations can sometimes lead to financial strain and emotional complications. The hosts collectively advocate for more thoughtful and intentional approaches to gift-giving, emphasizing the importance of supporting relationships that are likely to endure.

Moreover, the conversation highlights the potential fallout when gifts are given too early, especially in marriages that may not last. By setting a timeline for gift-giving, Brady seeks to mitigate the risks and ensure that his generosity is directed towards relationships that have a solid foundation.

Conclusion

This episode of Holmberg's Morning Sickness provides a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and thoughtful analysis on the topic of wedding gifts. Through engaging dialogue and relatable stories, John Holmberg and his co-hosts encourage listeners to rethink their own approaches to gift-giving and consider the deeper implications of their actions within the context of relationships.

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Transcript

[John Holmberg]

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[Larry McFeely]

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[Brady Bogan]

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[Unknown Speaker 1]

Here's another best of rerun from the morning sickness. It's on my mind now Gonna go somewhere else but now it's on my mind. Brady's been playing super. Larry, we didn't know you were. We didn't know you were on this game. We just found out that people that we know and like a lot, all of us have recently married and their marriage is not gonna make it to the seven to eight month mark. Right. It's unfortunate, but it's a. It's.

[Brady Bogan]

It happens.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It happens. Nobody's judging. No, except Brady said he doesn't get present. This is a very Costanza moment. He doesn't get presents for weddings until they hit six or seven months. So you got out of this one scot free. Cause all of us.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Sounds like it.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Nicely done. Braden Bogan larried him. Completely larried him. I mean, you could see the star and the moon right now just glowing down on you like the bat signal. Well done, Brady. That is an amazing, amazing idea. But for you of all people, after.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

After it happens a couple of times. And I had heard. I remember someone told me on wedding gifts, you have up to a year. I'm like, really?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. Well, I mean, you. That's. But for you, you're usually the guy. It's like, yeah, I don't want to be, you know, but this is a very bold and borderline confrontational move you've made up to a year.

[Brady Bogan]

I never heard that. I mean, I feel guilty if I don't show up with an envelope. You gotta hand the envelope.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

In the community of cheapskates, there's a discussion that says, oh, yeah, you got 12 months. You gotta make sure they make it. Why spend money on people? It's. It's. It's a. And here's a cheapskate move. But I admire it.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

The reality of it is.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. Oh, completely. But at the same time, to justify it, like, that makes even worse. But go on.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

The reality is my lacking. If I'm in charge of the wedding gift, it's gonna take a while.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Right?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Because usually it's Ronnie. You know, I'd say, like, women love to do that.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Well, wedding gifts are just all online. It's so easy. You get the invite, and there's a QR code on the thing that says, here, buy us something at this. And it gets delivered to the person's house. There's no shopping. Like, the registry is on your phone.

[Unknown Speaker 3]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Click, boom. Gone. You, sir, have a plan. I admire it. And, boy, have the tables turned here. I don't think I could be that big a dick. I mean, that's a move, my friend, but I admire it. And if anybod can adapt to it, it's this guy right here.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

However you want.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Oh, we do. Everyone does. The whole world has. It's not an interpretation, it's a dead fact, but it's a good. Hey, look, it's in this particular case. You got out. You got out.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

You.

[Brady Bogan]

You smoked us.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

You smoked us. Like, you know. Yeah, well, like you said, baking term, but still.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I mean, I based it also on. I mean, when I got married, I.

[Brady Bogan]

Got a little late.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, that's all right.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

When I got married.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

There wasn't. No, it wasn't everyone. All at once. There's stuff that came out throughout the year, but. And then there's.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, you're not the only one.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

But you get your candlestick, right? Like someone. Like your mom's Lenora best friend.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Were there eight holders for the candles?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

There was only.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Sounds like. Where you go.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

It was a pair.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Oh, okay. All right. So I didn't even get all eight. My God, that's the cheapest menorah I've ever heard of. I'll get you two. You make it another year, you get two more. This kid in his wedding prizes. It's a good move. I'm. But again, there we are. But I'm like, do you. And what is the rule there? I mean, there was a bachelor party, there was a wedding. There was a bachelorette party. That wedding we went to wasn't cheap. No, it was nice.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah, it was very nice.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

There's a most friend of mine recently got divorced, and they weren't married that long. Part of her deal was, I get all the wedding gifts. Okay, fine.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, well, I mean, that's called divorce. That's 10 years down the road. She still gets all the wedding.

[Brady Bogan]

Here, take the candlesticks and the flatware.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

The theory in divorce. And women hate this. And it's just a fact. There's nothing you can do when you talk about it afterwards. Women's. They ask each other, what'd you get? Men ask each other, what'd you lose? What's left? What did you lose is the man's conversation. What did you get is the woman's conversation. It's semantics, but it's a gigantic swing. There's two different sides to divorce. When is the last time a guy got divorced and said, oh, what'd you get in the divorce? It's never happened between guys, but it does with women. Well, what did you get? She got everything. She got the house. And the guy's like, yeah, I got to keep my car. I lost this. If dudes lose, women win and divorce. But it's a fact.

[Brady Bogan]

You talk to me after mine.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Exactly. I don't know if any. Anybody was a winner in mine finding things. But yeah, it's a. It's a weird thing. But this one, I mean, you know, at a certain point, Brady's right. One year anniversary, everybody. But then. But then you wouldn't get anything. And, you know, you do that thing where it's to get everybody started. You know, that's what wedding gifts were supposed to be. It used to be, young people, you get a wedding gift, you get like a toaster, start your house. That's how wedding gifts initially were. You get all the things that a brand new couple get. Now you get people getting married for a second, third, fourth time, and they have the gall desk for a present. That's why my rule is when I go full Brady McFeely, it's. I'm going to one of your weddings?

[Unknown Speaker 2]

One and done.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

One. I'm in for one if I have to watch you say I'll be with you forever. Twice. It's my fault. Oh, she's the one. What about the last one? You were saying? Now she's the two. Actually, she's the one and 1A. What's going on?

[Brady Bogan]

See, me and all the boys I was talking about earlier, we. We had a rule with bachelor parties. If you don't make it a year, you buy the bachelor party back for everybody that went. That's so it's a night out the bar for all the boys.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

You need paperwork.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

That went out.

[Brady Bogan]

Me and mango pad that one.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, well, middle was. He owes five, six, seven bachelor.

[Brady Bogan]

I'm telling you, it's ridiculous.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

But yeah, but if. Yeah, you know, if it's a. If it's. You make people pay. Destination weddings and stuff. I was borderline. My first one lasted two years, but I had like seven or eight people. It was San Diego. Yeah, but still, you know, I invited people and you had to put the bill for that and room and all that. It starts getting all right. Well, I'm sure you did.

[Brady Bogan]

Did you ever get your present?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I know exactly who you can. I know who you can contact. I don't think so. Brady got me a popcorn maker that I got him for Christmas the year before. Yeah, I. I'll. You can send those receipts to a certain party in that wedding and I'm sure she'll get right back to you.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

It's like old school. A toaster.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Well, that was one of you for that. One of the crazy things was. And her dad took care of half of our wedding. And our wedding was a little under 30 grand. Wasn't cheap, but it wasn't super expensive.

[Brady Bogan]

Now to average.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, yeah. Nowadays it was half this from us. And he was. That was his present to kick in half. And I always thought we were supposed to kick in the whole deal, but that's fine. And he had tons of money, so he fully larried us too. But anyway, so get half. Well, I found out I was getting a divorce from her brother when he said, my dad just got a check from your wife paying him back for the wedding. And I'm like, why? Huh? And then you felt like, oh. And he goes. Because she said something about maybe it's not gonna. And he's like, well. And he threw a little fit. I just paid for that. It's been two years. I just gave you money. So she cut him a check without telling Me. And I canceled it. Don Holmberg's morning sickness.

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[Unknown Speaker 3]

Hey, it's Larry McFeely here with Wayne from Amco and Wayne. Now that it's getting warmer, I turned on the AC in my car, and the air is blowing kind of cool, but it really smells like a basement.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

What can I do about that, Larry?

[Wayne]

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[Unknown Speaker 1]

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[Unknown Speaker 3]

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[Unknown Speaker 1]

Not at all.

[Wayne]

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[Unknown Speaker 3]

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[Wayne]

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[Unknown Speaker 3]

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[Unknown Speaker 1]

Morning sickness. And that was when the fireworks started.

[Brady Bogan]

Oh, man.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

But I canceled. I'm like, that's not happening.

[Brady Bogan]

We'll take that out of her half, right?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

What if we work this out? What if this is a thing? We're like, oh, we can move on. We'll be all right. Is he gonna cut us that back? Is it coming? That's. That's crap. That's a baby fit. That's the risk you take saying okay to the wedding, saying, yes, you can. And it wasn't me making that choice. But she cut him a check trying to pay him back. And then when I start thinking about him. Well, that was very nice of her. Really. Because she felt guilty that somebody. That people were kicking in, but she didn't cut it. Checked all the guests or, you know, the people that were involved in gift giving. She kept that stuff. We didn't. I don't think we even asked for gifts. I think it's one of those. Start getting to that point, you're not doing that. But it was. Yeah. It's crazy.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

My gift tonight. I feel bad in a way, but, no, it's not his Fault. I basically paid for the minister.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Oh, Billy.

[Wayne]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

For my thing.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I didn't even know that. Thanks.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Well, that worked out.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. That was great. He's all right.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I know, but just saying. How long did his. His words didn't last forever.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

He didn't.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

It's his.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

It's marriage. I know. You can't take any of those words for anything. I've seen. I've been to. I've seen people who are like, on marriage four and like, how do you stand up there and say forever? For you to make it like, you know, till this is over.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Like, just, I'm done. You're bad at it.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I got three for one. One guy, and that was it.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Have you gone to weddings of people who have had multiples and no deaths, they've just decided to not be part of it anymore, and then they move on, and then they ask you to go to their wedding again? See, I won't do that.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Yeah, I've done it one time.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Going to a second guy. A guy's second wedding.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

I went to three for one.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Dude, that's too many.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

And the third one, you know, we gave him two gifts and. And that was the big joke. Like, you know what? You're done.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

You've tapped it.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

I'm not giving him any gifts after the first one especially.

[Brady Bogan]

My dad knew. Knew a guy that actually got married times once. Two of them were the same. Like, he married her and ended divorce. But seven times, I'm like, you're just not good at this.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

Three strikes and you're out, pal. No more.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. Yeah. And quit having the gall to send out invites for us to show up to, you know, to be into the eyes of my friends in the Lord as well. Union for the next eight months. It's like, come on, it's a baseball season. Don't have to commit to that. It's craziness. Anyway, sorry to. You know, divorce comes crashing down on you, but, you know, seven, eight months, you gotta start writing some checks or at least some of that stuff's unused. I'm sure there's a couple of air fryers that have not been, you know, unboxed. That.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Yeah, there's some double ups, some double downs.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

You could bring those back and then say, say, hey, Sorry about that, Mr. And Mrs. Johnson. It didn't go past the basketball season. Or.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

That works out all right. They each get one.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Well, and that is the other thing about gift giving. You give a gift and your hands are clean of it, no matter what. Happens after that. If they take it back, if they hate it. It's just a. It's a rough one because you got to kind of eat. But you do learn a lot about that person. If you give somebody a gift and they do something terrible with the gift and your thought, then, you know, you just stop giving that person gift. Weddings that don't make it under a year. Rough. But you couldn't have been that attached, right?

[Brady Bogan]

No, not after that.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Used to be married that long. It's not of that. If you're gonna do it, do it early or you start accumulating a bunch of stuff together. It's brutal. Anyway, sorry to our friends, but Brady's the big winner here. Brady's the big winner.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I didn't get you anything. I wait. I wait and judge in judgment of whether or not you're worthy in the eyes of the Bogues.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, that's pretty. That's brazen. That's pretty awesome.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

I have now judged your marriage worthy of prize.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

You've made it six months.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

You have made it past my threshold.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Here is your sawbuck.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

Here's $10 and an AMC gift card that has one good use left.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

A.

[Unknown Speaker 5]

One ticket to a non special engagement. So don't go try to see Avatar on this thing. It ain't happening.

[Brady Bogan]

How long have you been doing this? Because I've always thought you show up, it's like. It's almost like your admission ticket. Like there you go like.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

And you love. Like you can't say no to people's parties or funerals or whatever. If there's an invite, you have to go. You're not very good at not going to weddings and not going to. And just skip.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Well, it's good for the most part. There hasn't been too many second. And you're out of that age gap where the heavy weddings happen in the 20s, 30s.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Starts to slow down in the 40s. I said there's second. Second happenings. But those are mostly. They either go somewhere else.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Right.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Get married, small wedding, then have a party afterwards.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Weddings are like. Weddings are like funerals to me. You got one, I'm going to one of them. That's it. Unless there's. And then a funeral can reset. So like if I know you and then I have to go to like your. Your wife or your funeral, I'll go to that person's next wedding. That's what. Until death do us part.

[Brady Bogan]

There's a reset.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

There's a reset on a funeral. So I'll go to your like if you're, you know, wife. Because I went to your wedding.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

And it had she croaked. Quit smiling so big. If she croaked, I was just thinking, then I would have gone to your next wedding. But I don't know. You. A second one. And you do. Same with you. Nobody owes me. Actually, you owe me one.

[Brady Bogan]

I owe you? Well, how do I owe you?

[Unknown Speaker 1]

You didn't go to any of my weddings. Wasn't invited any. Well, I know, so. But now you go. Now you owe me.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

Guess what? You're invited after the fact.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah. Next time through, Brett, you just clear the day.

[Brady Bogan]

See, I wouldn't have been a Brady. I would have brought a present right away.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Because you're a decent human being.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

You have a down path. I should go the way that you do it. Just flat out, here's. Yeah.

[Brady Bogan]

Here's an envelope.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Right. Well, that's what. For the most weddings, they have a thing now where you can click on a deal where you get them either money or a gift card. That's. I think what we did for this one was the. On the registry, there was a click for a gift card, and you just fire off a certain amount to that. There's some bones at that. And then they end up with all this. Go shopping. They get a shopping spree.

[Brady Bogan]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

For all those clothes they're going to be wearing when they're laying under new people. It's crazy. All the. All the stains and stuff they're going to have on those wedding clothes that they bought with that gift card for that new dude that's hosing her. I mean, come on. But it's the way of the world. Merry Christmas, everyone. Brady has figured it out. You have to be wildly judgmental of a person's nuptials and give it a certain deadline before you're willing to fork out a few bucks. And actually, I kind of admire it. I don't know if I could ever do it, but the cheapskate society of America says this is the way to go, and I have no problem with it at a certain point. That's pretty nice. Said I got married a while ago, told Brady about it, and seven months later, a $10 Panda Express gift card showed up in the mail. That's pretty.

[Unknown Speaker 2]

He got his. He passed.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

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[Unknown Speaker 2]

Man, I went heavy.

[Unknown Speaker 1]

Yeah, you were still. You must really like those people. Well, it was the two of them, so, I mean, you doubled down and both had to eat. That's very impressive. Arizona's most powerful rock radio station. He said fully erect 98.

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