The Sports Thing Podcast w/ Holmberg, Hellestrae, and Nash
Episode 4 – September 2, 2025
Episode Overview
This episode of "The Sports Thing Podcast" (Episode 4) jumpstarts the football season, diving headfirst into spirited debates about college football’s ranking system, the impact of preseason games, the Micah Parsons trade, Dallas Cowboys’ drama, strange sports traditions, and the role of personalities in professional sports. The hosts—John Holmberg (radio host, comedian), Dale Hellestrae (ex-NFL long snapper), and Dave Nash (entrepreneur and provocateur)—combine sharp analysis, irreverent humor, and blunt hot takes, all sprinkled with conspiracies, digressions, and a rowdy banter that delivers both insight and entertainment for football and sports fans.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Identity Crisis and “This Sports Thing” Name
- The hosts poke fun at the ongoing confusion about the show’s name and structure, highlighting the organic, unscripted nature of the podcast.
- Quote:
"We can't even come up with a damn name for the show."
— Dale Hellestrae [03:54]
"This sports thing, nobody has come up with that."
— John Holmberg [04:39]
2. College Football’s Flawed System & Season Kickoff
Critique of College Rankings and Preseason Games
- Holmberg rails against arbitrary preseason rankings and the lack of a collegiate preseason, arguing it creates unfair advantages and entrenched elites.
- Quote:
“This arbitrary choice of who's good at college football… pulling balls from the air and saying they're the best team. This is a Heisman Trophy candidate who's never thrown a pass.”
— John Holmberg [04:56]
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- Hellestrae points out the result: opening games tend toward defensive slugfests—offenses unprepared, coaches unwilling to risk creativity.
- Quote:
"There's no preseason in college... when you open up against another really, really good team, chances are the defense is going to be ahead of the offense."
— Dale Hellestrae [05:44]
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- The new 12-team playoff system is debated. Hellestrae praises the change, saying previously, an opening loss would eliminate teams immediately, now both can recover.
- Quote:
"Now with 12 teams, both these teams most likely are going to be somewhere."
— Dale Hellestrae [07:45]
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Traditionalist Reform Suggestions
- Holmberg floats his radical idea: European-style football structure with divisions, promotion, and relegation, to eliminate preseason rank bias.
- Quote:
"Just give these schools... a division to win. Go win it. Or do it like the Europeans do soccer and graduate—relegate."
— John Holmberg [08:59]
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3. Sports Product Quality & Critique of Women’s Sports
- The panel contemptuously critiques women's basketball ("the worst product in the world") and questions the entertainment value of lower-tier college/pro sports in general.
- Quote:
"Women’s basketball. It’s the worst product in the world."
— John Holmberg [09:35]
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- Holmberg: viewership is about quality, not sexism. He’s interested only in greatness, not sentimentality.
- Quote:
“I like greatness. I like to watch really good [sports].”
— John Holmberg [10:18]
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4. NFL Betting Insights
- Nash and the crew riff on college and NFL betting, referencing lines, “over/under” for teams like the Saints and the Cowboys, and individual player props for fantasy and gambling.
- Quote:
"I think the Cowboys and Bengals are the exact same team right now. In fact, I think the Bengals are a little better on defense."
— John Holmberg [51:25] - Nash predicts Prescott’s pass yards will soar due to a weak Cowboys defense post-Parsons trade.
- [51:15]
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5. Micah Parsons Trade & Cowboys Analysis (Main Segment)
Trade Analysis & Jerry Jones Decisions
- Heated breakdown of the recent blockbuster trade: Cowboys deal star edge rusher Micah Parsons to Green Bay for picks and lineman Clark.
- Criticism over Jerry Jones’ delayed negotiation and poor draft management.
- Quote:
“Why can't Jerry just go, ‘I got caught with my pants down’? I thought for sure we're going to sign him. We were so far apart, I had to make a last minute move.”
— John Holmberg [27:30]
- Hellestrae brings insider's perspective: Dallas’ defensive line remains weak; despite Parsons’ pass rush prowess, he’s not a strong run defender.
- Quote:
“Micah Parsons—he had 12 sacks last year… but he disappears against the run.”
— Dale Hellestrae [27:06]
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- Discussion of the effect on Dallas’ immediate and long-term prospects:
- Did Jones get enough for Parsons? Should he have opened the bidding leaguewide? Was it all for cap space amid pending deals for Dak and Lamb?
- Comparison to the Herschel Walker trade and its lessons.
- Quote:
“I do think that this one was different in that that team was close. The Cowboys are not far off, and now they've taken a step back. For [Jerry] to lie to the fan base and say we're better today than we were yesterday... That is just a flat out lie.”
— John Holmberg [39:43]
Green Bay & NFC North Impact
- Nash highlights the minimal odds movement post-trade, but says Packers’ defense—now with a true blue-chip—becomes dangerous in a tight NFC North.
- Holmberg and Nash debate how far an elite pass-rusher can elevate a defense given modern scheme adjustments.
- “To me, maybe I’m stupid—is the most important thing for a defense [pressuring the QB]. And Green Bay just got one of the most important things...” — Dave Nash [52:23]
6. NBA Conspiracy Theories & Dallas Mavericks
- Nash spins a conspiracy: NBA pushes stars to big markets—Luka Doncic’s ‘lucky’ move to LA, historic trades like Kobe to Lakers as result of league manipulation.
- Quote:
"Basketball is star driven and they want their stars in LA…"
— John Holmberg [36:05]
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- They debate Luca vs. Cooper Flagg as franchise cornerstones (unanimously Luca).
- [38:03–38:22]
7. Personality & Culture in NFL Locker Rooms
- Extended digression on NFL "meeting room" culture:
- Offensive line rooms are the “fun” rooms—rowdy, sarcastic, thick-skinned camaraderie.
- Long snappers are unsung, avoid attention lest a single mistake (bad snap) sabotage their reputation.
- Hellestrae shares he hosted the only long snapper radio show—a status he sees as dangerous for the position(!)
- Quote:
"You don't want your name out there... you just want to go week by week."
— Dale Hellestrae [57:30]
- Funny stories about team food, "cell block 6" (linemen’s room), endless eating, and football’s relentless caloric demands.
- [59:08–60:03]
8. Sidebars: Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce; Bill Belichick at UNC
- Joking comparisons of Taylor Swift to Shelley Long and the financial wisdom of her pending union with Travis Kelce—“the best 18 months of their lives”.
- [25:36; 60:29]
- Mockery of Bill Belichick’s pivot to coaching North Carolina, the “trademarked gold digger” status of his girlfriend, and whether he can replicate his NFL success.
- [19:31–23:48]
9. Dave’s “Lunatic with a Bullhorn” – Conspiracy Rant
[Starts 61:20]
- Dave Nash spends the final segment on 9/11 conspiracies: Pentagon attack as missile/faked event, real IDs, government surveillance, and “loss of freedoms.”
- Holmberg and Hellestrae counter and probe, but mostly let Dave air out his theories.
- Quote:
"911 was behind the Mossad. Our CIA was behind all that... There's no airplane that hit the Pentagon."
— Dave Nash [61:20] - [61:20–67:12]
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Notable Quotes / Moments by Timestamp
- "This is more like the show Kung Fu. You need a teacher. You two need somebody to help you snatch the pebble." — John Holmberg [03:27]
- "Soccer is just a personal preference. Those guys are athletes... Women's basketball is a bad product." — John Holmberg [09:42]
- "If you give up five sacks a season, you're not around long." — Dale Hellestrae [28:49]
- “If you lose two of the three that [Arch Manning]'s out and you walk into the… you could be the best team in football. If this kid comes back and there's injuries play a part. You can't just say 1, 2 losses and you're done because it's not fair.” — John Holmberg [15:21]
- "I just laugh when grown men fall. Gravity beating him for no reason at all." — John Holmberg [49:01]
Important Timestamps
- [02:22] – Show opens, banter over podcast’s identity
- [04:51] – Transition to college football, complaints about preseason rankings
- [07:22] – Playoff expansion pros and cons
- [11:15] – NFL team over/unders, focus on the Saints, Falcons, Cowboys
- [17:55] – Texas’ historical shortcomings vs. elite programs
- [25:36] – Travis Kelce/Taylor Swift relationship digression
- [26:16] – Micah Parsons trade debate begins
- [39:43] – “For him to lie… we’re better today than we were yesterday… is just a flat out lie.”
- [51:15] – Prescott “most passing yards” prop, fallout of Cowboys’ defensive loss
- [54:09] – Coaching staff turnover and impact on Detroit Lions, NFL cycles
- [57:19] – Long snapper radio show, “don’t stand out” lessons
- [61:20] – “Lunatic with a Bullhorn,” Dave Nash’s conspiracy closeout
Tone & Style
The hosts keep things fast, irreverent, and deeply opinionated—mixing sharp sports insight with frequent jokes, playful personal jabs, and the occasional off-the-rails conspiracy digression. There’s a sense of camaraderie and mutual mockery that keeps the show lighthearted even when discussing serious sports topics.
Summary Takeaway
This episode delivers a raucous, wide-ranging discussion that uniquely blends sports talk, fevered NFL/NBA analysis, cynical takes on sports management, and bro humor. Listeners get a real fan’s perspective with expert insider tidbits, gambling knowledge, and, in true "This Sports Thing" fashion, a hefty dose of irreverence and anti-establishment spice. Even if you didn’t catch the episode, this summary gives you the flavor, major points, and the personality that set this podcast apart.