Super Social but Super Shy

Summary

Hot Mess with Alix Earle Episode: Super Social but Super Shy
Release Date: November 7, 2024

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1. Personal Updates and Weekend Adventures

In this episode, Alix Earle and her friend Ashton dive into a whirlwind of recent social activities, sharing their experiences from Halloween festivities to weekend plans. Ashton recounts her bustling Halloween weekend, filled with parties, haunted house adventures, and a friend’s birthday extravaganza.

• Haunted House Mixer:
  “We were in there for 30 minutes, and every time I turned a corner, I thought it was going to end,” Ashton shares at [04:29], highlighting the unexpected length and dynamics of their haunted house experience.

• Frenchman Street Nights:
  The duo describes their nights out on Frenchman Street, enjoying live bands and battling the aftermath of a rain-soaked evening. Ashton mentions, “I have never felt worse in my life,” at [06:05], emphasizing the exhausting nature of their social escapades.

2. Navigating Friendship and Family Dynamics

Alix and Ashton discuss the challenges of balancing social lives with family expectations. Ashton humorously describes her interactions with her father, who is eager to join in on the nightlife, leading to playful banter about her reluctance.

• Father’s Social Aspirations:
  Ashton confesses, “Dad keeps asking where I’ve been, and I'm like, I'm with my best friends,” at [28:00], illustrating the tension between her desire for social freedom and her father’s involvement.

3. Exploring Introversion and Extroversion

A significant portion of the episode delves into the contrasts between introverted and extroverted personalities. Both hosts reflect on their own tendencies and the impact of their online personas on real-life interactions.

• Ashton on Introversion:
  “I've always been a shy person, and being in large social settings forces me to be more outgoing than I naturally am,” Ashton admits at [21:37], shedding light on her internal conflicts.

• Alix on Extroversion:
  Alix counters, “I’m definitely an extrovert in the sense that I like being with people, but it takes me a while to warm up,” at [23:08], highlighting the nuanced nature of her social interactions.

4. The Impact of Media Training on Authenticity

Alix opens up about her experiences with media training and how it has both shaped and hindered her authenticity during interviews and public appearances.

• Alix’s Media Struggles:
  “I wanted to be professional and buttoned up, but it wasn’t who I am online,” Alix confesses at [34:24], discussing the tension between her online persona and real-life self.

• Ashton’s Untrained Approach:
  In contrast, Ashton shares her lack of media training, leading to anxiety during interviews. “I struggle to get my actual personality across in interviews,” she admits at [34:54], emphasizing her challenges in expressing herself authentically.

5. Social Anxiety and Self-Isolation

The conversation turns introspective as both hosts explore their tendencies toward social anxiety and self-isolation, especially in the context of their public lives.

• Ashton’s Self-Isolation:
  “I like to be alone and have my alone time,” Ashton states at [27:42], acknowledging her need for solitude despite her active social calendar.

• Alix’s Dependency on Others:
  Alix contrasts this by expressing, “I don’t like to be alone, and having a boyfriend makes me feel codependent,” at [50:31], revealing her struggle with independence and emotional reliance.

6. Alcohol, Socializing, and Creativity

Alix and Ashton discuss their relationship with alcohol, its effects on their social interactions, and how it influences their creativity and behavior during outings.

• Ashton’s Alcohol-Induced Outspokenness:
  “When I drink, I become the funniest person ever,” Ashton admits at [59:17], explaining how alcohol lowers her social inhibitions.

• Alix’s Controlled Consumption:
  Alix contrasts this by sharing her approach to drinking, “I handle my alcohol well and have found that being a good drinker helps me function the next day,” at [56:32], highlighting her ability to balance socializing and personal responsibilities.

7. Friendship Dynamics and Personal Anecdotes

The hosts share heartfelt and humorous stories about their friendships, including unexpected bonds formed during college years and the quirks that define their relationships.

• Building Best Friendships:
  Alix recounts how she and Natalie became best friends over a shared dislike for a mutual crush: “We started, like, blaming him together, and then we became best friends,” at [43:05], showcasing the serendipitous nature of their bond.

• Awkward Family Interactions:
  Ashton shares a funny yet awkward encounter with her boyfriend’s family, “Braxton's grandpa roasted me in front of everyone,” at [48:17], adding a relatable layer to her social experiences.

8. Upcoming Segment: "What Would Alex Do?"

Towards the end of the episode, Alix teases an upcoming segment where listeners can leave voicemails for a special “What Would Alex Do?” episode, promising more interactive and personalized content.

• Listener Engagement:
  “Next week's episode we are going to do a full 'What Would Alex Do?' Episode with actual voicemails,” Alix announces at [64:06], encouraging listener participation and enhancing community engagement.

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Conclusion

In "Super Social but Super Shy," Alix Earle and Ashton candidly explore the complexities of their social lives, balancing extroverted activities with introverted tendencies. They delve into the challenges of maintaining authenticity in the public eye, navigating friendships and family expectations, and the intricate dance between socializing and self-isolation. Through personal anecdotes and honest reflections, the hosts offer listeners a relatable glimpse into the messy yet beautiful journey of balancing social engagement with personal well-being.

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Notable Quotes:

• “We were in there for 30 minutes, and every time I turned a corner, I thought it was going to end.” – Ashton [04:29]
• “I wanted to be professional and buttoned up, but it wasn’t who I am online.” – Alix [34:24]
• “When I drink, I become the funniest person ever.” – Ashton [59:17]
• “Next week's episode we are going to do a full 'What Would Alex Do?' Episode with actual voicemails.” – Alix [64:06]

Transcript

[Alex Earl]

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[Ashton]

Hey Alex, how are you?

[Alex Earl]

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[Ashton]

Well, I am deteriorating. I have been going out a lot just for Halloween. A lot.

[Alex Earl]

Do you need to clear your throat?

[Ashton]

Maybe? Is that better?

[Alex Earl]

Yeah. I used to never clear my throat when it would get like mucusy because I thought it sounded sexy. And it was, it was in high school. Like, for some reason I just thought I had like a raspy voice. And my friends were like, it was like Isabella and Sally, they were like, alex, what are you doing? And I was like, wait, I thought it sounded sexy. And then they always made fun of me and they're like, I think I sound sexy. So I never used to clear and now I realize that it's not cute. So continue on.

[Ashton]

Anyway, so Wednesday night we had a mixer with a frat and it was at a haunted house. So we like that.

[Alex Earl]

It was so fun.

[Ashton]

So we had like a pre game and then a party bus to the haunted house. And then we went through the whole haunted house which, you know, usually I feel like a haunted house is like maybe five minutes. You know, you're always like, that was too short. I swear to God. We were in there for 30 minutes and towards the end, every time I turned a corner, I thought we were going to be like, it was going to be the end. And then it kept going.

[Alex Earl]

I wasn't paying attention. Were you, were you walking through or were you on like a hay ride?

[Ashton]

No, we were walking through it. Oh, you know, that's a long walk. Yeah. And no and we were all like. We had all been like drinking and everyone was like around. We were, yeah, what if you have to people. Yeah, I did. And it just kept going and going and it was kind of underwhelming just because there was so many of us. You would see the people jump out and go back and hide in front of you. Yeah.

[Alex Earl]

You have to go in groups.

[Ashton]

I got got twice. I got so scared. I ran straight into a wall. Like I've never full force, like ran into a wall. Like I did. And I have a huge bruise on my knee now. I'm also covered in bruises from this weekend. I have one in the middle of my butt cheek, which I don't even know how you get a bruise directly in the middle of your butt cheek. But it's like really dark. Have you. Do you ever get like random bruises?

[Alex Earl]

I feel like all the time. All the time. And I always get them in cryptic places.

[Ashton]

Yeah.

[Alex Earl]

Brock's gonna always be like, how did you get that bruise? And I'm like, I just don't know. Like they disappeared. But I don't bruise as easily as you. You like wake up every night.

[Ashton]

It was like a peach.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, you wake up every night with a bruise.

[Ashton]

But I usually found one on like the inside of my arm. I'm like, how did that get there?

[Alex Earl]

I don't know. I feel like when you are going out like that, there's always bruises involved somehow.

[Ashton]

And then that was just a long night for me because we ended up going out after the haunted house too. And Thursday I was so dead. But Thursday was actual Halloween. So I was like, I have to go out now. And we went to Frenchman street, which is like pretty much like Bourbon street, but there's more like live bands. It's a little less chaotic. So we went to Frenchman first and we saw this awesome band. Me and my friend Joe were like. We stayed. Everyone else went to Bourbon when we stayed for like an extra 30 minutes. Just cuz this band was so good. And she put. She sang like Halo by Beyonce. We were like, hello. It was great. But it was also raining, so my hair by the end of the night was like wet and puffy. And then we went to Bourbon and stayed there for way too long. And Friday I slept all day because I actually have never felt worse in my life. Like I have been kind of going non stop this entire month. Like I still feel like I haven't recovered from Vegas. So Friday I slept all day and then Saturday was my friend's birthday extravaganza. I Don't know why I said extravaganza, but she had. We were doing like a birthday booze cruise and we had to be at her house by like 10am we took a party bus. It was called like the Twerking tiki.

[Alex Earl]

Wait, is there boats in New Orleans?

[Ashton]

Oh, it's funny because it's on like the bayou and they just take you around on these little tiki boats and.

[Alex Earl]

Wait, was it like a tiki bar?

[Ashton]

No, no, they have those in Miami.

[Alex Earl]

It's like a floating.

[Ashton]

I know. Look. Really fun.

[Alex Earl]

I want to do it so bad.

[Ashton]

Can we do it?

[Alex Earl]

Yes. I actually was on a boat this weekend and we saw one, but it kind of like Loki. A wave came and like crashed over them and I was like, I might get a little scared of drowning on that thing because I'm like, what's the motor power? But there's just floating tiki.

[Ashton]

Those look so fun though. Yeah, I've seen those. Okay, we have to do that.

[Alex Earl]

Okay. But anyway, continue on.

[Ashton]

So these are on like the bayou and we always get to a point where I've been on one of these like twice now and both times there's like alligators come and they give you marshmallows to like feed alligators. And we're all like drunk and I'm like, this is going to end very.

[Alex Earl]

That's so dangerous.

[Ashton]

No, I know.

[Alex Earl]

If I saw an alligator within like 10ft of me.

[Ashton]

They let. They let you like pet them too, but they look out. Have you seen alligators in person? They look fake. Like their heads look like ceramic.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, I went to the. What's it called? The Everglades.

[Ashton]

Should we go on a swamp tour when you're here? Not like a party one, but like.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah. Oh my God, I'm coming to visit you this weekend. Your vendor is back on because what do I know? That's what I was. Four days. Oh my God.

[Ashton]

Yeah, you come Thursday, right?

[Alex Earl]

I have to pack. Wait, so what are our plans this weekend when I come to visit you?

[Ashton]

Okay, so you get here Thursday, right?

[Alex Earl]

Yes, I think Thursday morning. We're laughing because we actually just recorded this two times. And then I. Ashton's zoom recorder, like the thing that she records on, broke and then I forgot to hit record on mine. So this is our third time recording this exact part. So just pretend one more time for good measure. Ashton, walk us through what our plans are this weekend when I come to visit you.

[Ashton]

So Thursday I was thinking we go to the Audubon Zoo and cuz they're having a little dinosaur exhibit right now, which Thomas would love. And then we can walk around, maybe walk around campus. We have an early dinner.

[Alex Earl]

Thomas is going to freak out.

[Ashton]

Oh, he's going to.

[Alex Earl]

I've also never walked around new campus.

[Ashton]

What? Girl?

[Alex Earl]

What? I. I've only seen the bars.

[Ashton]

That makes sense. So we can walk around campus and then we'll have an early dinner, which dinner is kind of near Bourbon, so we can maybe take, like, walk through Bourbon after dinner if we want. Get the kids some funny T shirts or something.

[Alex Earl]

Wait, I have a question.

[Ashton]

Yeah.

[Alex Earl]

Is Bourbon street as scary as it is during Mardi Gras, like, all the time, or is it extra scary during Mardi Gras?

[Ashton]

It's extra scary during Mardi Gras. But, like, for example, it's like, any excuse or any time there's an excuse to party, it's kind of scary. Like, Halloween was crazy.

[Alex Earl]

I love it, actually.

[Ashton]

Remember when you first came after getting your boobs done and you got the biggest beads in the world?

[Alex Earl]

Yes. And I had to chuck someone's phone.

[Ashton]

Yes. But that's. Yeah.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, I got. Well, I went to Martygar right after getting my boob job, and obviously, like, your thing is, like, you flash for beads. And I was so excited.

[Ashton]

Alex was so excited by her new boobs.

[Alex Earl]

I was. Which is just not the time. Like, I shouldn't have done that. And that. That was at the point, too, where they were still, like, hard rocks. Like, they. I remember, like, my bikini. They, like, literally couldn't move.

[Ashton]

That was.

[Alex Earl]

It was two cinder blocks on my chest. But I was so happy getting my beads.

[Ashton]

I feel like Thursday night we'll have, like, a chill night. We don't need to go crazy. Unless you and I want to do something. And then Friday, I think we should do the yoga sculpt class, because it's my favorite workout class. It's like a heated yoga. It's a hot yoga with, like, little weights. So it's like, my favorite workout. And then I like, yeah, I can't.

[Alex Earl]

Really do yoga if it's not heated or if there's not weights involved, because then I'm just like, what are we doing? Like, I might as well just go in my room and touch my toes.

[Ashton]

Yeah. Alex is a yoga hater because she's always like, I feel like I did nothing. She doesn't get it. But I do usually prefer.

[Alex Earl]

When I caught you, I. I found my inner, like, peace, though more this year because I did start to, like.

[Ashton]

Very just, like, yeah, that's it's.

[Alex Earl]

Like it for my mental. But at first I went and, you know, and they do, like, the exhales.

[Ashton]

Yeah.

[Alex Earl]

And everyone's like, no, now I do.

[Ashton]

It and I'm like. I'm like, I'm. I'm so into it now. I'm like, it really. It helps me a lot.

[Alex Earl]

I know, but at first, I used to, like, look at the people around me, breathing so heavy. And I was like, this is weird. But then I got into it myself.

[Ashton]

Then we'll, like, get some coffee, shower, get some cutesy little brunch on Friday. And then I was thinking, potentially, if we want, we could do the swamp tours and see all the little alligators, which is so fun on the Swampies. And then all my friends are going to, like, this bar place, but I'm pretty sure it's, like, strictly 21 plus, so I booked a few lanes at this.

[Alex Earl]

We can't bring the kids.

[Ashton]

No. I'm actually so excited for them to come. The last time they came was so fun. Isabel slept over with me, literally.

[Alex Earl]

Ashton. I wasn't there the last time that all the kids went to visit Ashton at college, and they were at, like, a frat party. Penelope's, like, dancing on a table. And I was like, where am I? Where were.

[Ashton]

Yeah. I don't know, Alex, where were you?

[Alex Earl]

I'm never there when everyone comes to visit you.

[Ashton]

Yeah, I guess you just really don't like me.

[Alex Earl]

Shut up.

[Ashton]

Whatever. So, yeah, we're going to go to this bowling alley that has, like, a live band. It's a really fun place. I love going, and a bunch of my friends are going to come there. And then I told dad because he really wants to go out. He's dying to go out. He's like, I want to go to the Boot. I want to go here. I'm like, all right, dad. So I was like, if you can get.

[Alex Earl]

Like, parents are always dying to go out when they. Yeah.

[Ashton]

Honestly, more than we are.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah. I'm like, let's go to bed. And they're like, like, we're in Miami. We have to go out. I was like, okay.

[Ashton]

All right. But, yeah. And so I was like, dad, if you can get a babysitter, maybe we'll, like, go to Bourbon or Frenchman after bowling and meet up with all the other people. So Saturday morning, we'll tailgate either at the frats or the Boot, and then we'll go to the game, which I'm totally fine not staying that long unless we're doing well. We haven't Done so well this year, though. And then we'll go out to dinner Saturday. I know you really want to go to the Boot and redeem yourself from the last time you were there.

[Alex Earl]

I really want to go to the Boot. I love the Boot. It's this bar on campus, and they have these big drinks that are, like, 1ft tall. And I don't like that was it.

[Ashton]

Thinks this is, like, the craziest thing she's ever seen. Like a triple well, for like, $5, she like. Like, her mind.

[Alex Earl]

I don't even know what it. I don't even know what a triple well means.

[Ashton]

Like a triple.

[Alex Earl]

This. This big drink, and it's like three drinks in one. And it's like, how much?

[Ashton]

It's like $5. I don't know.

[Alex Earl]

That's crazy. Like, at Miami, there's one little, tiny little drink. Was, like, $30, so.

[Ashton]

And we have, like, the $8 pictures. You've seen the pictures, right?

[Alex Earl]

Yeah. That's crazy. I. I remember it's because it's, like.

[Ashton]

Super, super cheap alcohol. It's disgusting.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah. But it's great.

[Ashton]

It's fun.

[Alex Earl]

Who cares? When you're in college, I'll drink anything. I literally would drink so true. Sewer liquor out of these trash bins.

[Ashton]

Oh, my God, the vat. I'm gonna make you try. Vat?

[Alex Earl]

What is a vat?

[Ashton]

The drinks they put in the trash can that you dip your cup in.

[Alex Earl]

Oh, wait, I think I've had that.

[Ashton]

And then you play the game chug the vat.

[Alex Earl]

I don't think. Actually, I have had that. When I ever. I visited you, they were hanging. Oh, tea bags.

[Ashton]

Twee bags. Yeah.

[Alex Earl]

And then there also was another time when I walked into a tailgate. Was. Or not a tailgate, but like a Mardi Gras frat party, which the frat houses in New Orleans are so much fun.

[Ashton]

They're so good.

[Alex Earl]

There was someone who had, like, a big beer bong from, like, the top. The top of the roof, and it, like, swung down throughout the whole party across the lawn to the other side, and. And I were like.

[Ashton]

It was, like, from, like, someone else's house. And you, like.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah. They live it in another backyard. And I was like, I'm probably gonna get a disease from this funnel right now. But it was just. That's what it's all about.

[Ashton]

It's. Yeah, that's what Mardi Gras is all about. Getting the disease. So you have to come this year.

[Alex Earl]

You have to go back to college.

[Ashton]

You have to come.

[Alex Earl]

I feel like I'm too old to go to Mardi Gras.

[Ashton]

But, like, you're not Alex. We're literally best for these little bitches. We do everything together. Like, you can come to Mardi Gras. It's okay.

[Alex Earl]

I know, but I don't want to be, like, the 10th year creeper.

[Ashton]

No, you're not.

[Alex Earl]

But honestly.

[Ashton]

But honestly, it might be a little much. Like, people might be, like, too freaking out over you because remember the last time you came for Mardi Gras?

[Alex Earl]

Well, I did get a little violated that time I went for Mardi Gras, but I think the girls in New Orleans are just ravenous.

[Ashton]

Oh, yeah, there's something in the air here. It's really scary. Like, you should see me when I.

[Alex Earl]

Go out here Mardi Gras. But I think it was at the Boo and then also a frat house. Twice I ended up crying only once. But the same thing happened twice where I just was like, what is going on here? This has never happened to me. We were at the Boot, and I went to the bathroom, and there was these girls, like, sticking their phones over the bathroom stall and under the bathroom stall videotaping me while he was peeing. And, you know, and you're, like, naked. I had to take off my bodysuit and whatever to pee. And these girls were, like, screaming and had their phones over the bathroom stall, and I started crying because I got overwhelmed, but, like, it was never cry.

[Ashton]

It was insane. Like, how many people were just. The entire Boot. It just seemed like everyone in there was, like, crawling in on you. I remember seeing you, and you were.

[Alex Earl]

Just like, their arms.

[Ashton]

It was.

[Alex Earl]

Girls were army crawling under them. And I was like, no, chill.

[Ashton]

But this was, like, right when you kind of, like, a few months after you, like, really blew up. And I feel like that was, like, one of the first times that, like, you were in such, like, a big crowd like, that. I remember, like, everywhere we went, like, in the frats, like, people were just, like, screaming and, like, crawling, and it's, like, already so packed in, like, a shit show already because it's Mardi Gras. And then everyone was freaking out over you. I got so mad because I remember just, like, walking down the street and all these girls that have never even given me, like, like, a second thought, like, never even considered saying hello to me at a party. We're like, oh, my God, Ashton, is that your sister? I didn't know you had a sister. And I would be like, you. I didn't actually say that, but I wanted to really bad, because I was just like, you're so fake. But, yeah, that was crazy. But I feel like if you came this year, it would be super chill.

[Alex Earl]

No, I do think so, too. I think we can make it fun, or I'll just hide out on Bourbon Street.

[Ashton]

Or we can just get you, like a. A full, like, morph suit and no one will know it's you.

[Alex Earl]

Anything else going on in your life that I'm missing out on?

[Ashton]

I burnt my forehead with my curling iron.

[Alex Earl]

Why do you keep doing that?

[Ashton]

I don't know. I think I have, like, a problem. I.

[Alex Earl]

It's not that hard.

[Ashton]

I know I've been curling my hair my. I've been curling my hair my entire life. And for some reason this year, I keep burning my face, and it's really embarrassing.

[Alex Earl]

But you honestly, you have to stop because you're going to have bad scars on your face.

[Ashton]

I know, it's really bad. And I'm already trying to fix my skin as it is, and I just have this huge scar on my forehead now. And everyone's like, I went out the other night. They're like, what's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? And I was like, oh, okay. I was like, I don't know. But something is wrong with me. But I don't know. I'm banning myself. I'm throwing out all my curling irons. I can't do it anymore.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, that's. It's getting dangerous. You have to take care of yourself.

[Ashton]

Scary.

[Alex Earl]

So should we get into our Hot Topic of the week?

[Ashton]

I think we shall.

[Alex Earl]

All right, moving on to the Hot Topic. The New Balance 1080 is the ultimate daily trainer, combining reliable comfort with top tier performance. I love New Balance sneakers. I mean, for the girls who are running. Good for you. I'm not a runner. I'm probably more so wearing these to, like, the coffee shop or the grocery store. But The New Balance 1080 features a cushion midsole for secure support and comfort. It's lightweight, breathable, and it is good for an everyday on the run. On the go shop the 1080@New Balance.com.

[Ashton]

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[Alex Earl]

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[Ashton]

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[Alex Earl]

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[Ashton]

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[Alex Earl]

Our Hot Topic of the week is going to be talking about being introverted or extroverted. I don't. I. I guess I would say I'm an extrovert, but maybe not when I first meet people. Honestly, this idea came from Ashton.

[Ashton]

Yeah. When I had a little mentibe the other week, I was like, why do I, like, have such weird interactions? And I always overthink everything and I, like, I'm not, like, fully myself when I talk to people. And then I was like, I totally forgot that I'm, like, such a shy person. And I've always been that way. And like, we've just been in so many, like, big social interactions and I'm always out with, like, big groups of people all the time that I'm kind of just like, forced to be more social and outgoing than I normally would be, like, on my lonesome. And then I was like, wait, I totally forgot I'm such a little shy introvert girl.

[Alex Earl]

Which is so, like, you overthink. You overthink after talking with someone about, like, what you said.

[Ashton]

Yes. Because half the time I'll say things and I'm like, that is so just not how I am as an actual person. And I don't know, it's hard to explain.

[Alex Earl]

I feel like the only time I overthink or, like, could relate to this is when I. Unless I say something like, stupid or I'm like, why did I say that? But I feel like when I have, like, anxiety and you're just, like, anxious about everything that you said.

[Ashton]

Yes. Or like, what I didn't say, like, I'll be so quiet talking to people. And I'm like, why weren't you just being normal? And I'm like, it's like, hard. It takes me a minute to really be my full self around someone. I don't know why I feel like I don't.

[Alex Earl]

I don't really agree with you because every time I bring you around new groups of people, I think, especially, like this past year or so, like, I've just literally brought Ashton with me in my back pocket everywhere. And everyone. I bring Ashton to me. Everyone's like, oh, my God, she's amazing. And they like you better than me.

[Ashton]

Thank you.

[Alex Earl]

But I feel like you do a good job at, like, having conversations with random people.

[Ashton]

I don't know. I think it's just that I overthink it. I am definitely a shy person. And if you put me in a room, like, I'm. I'm good at being myself when I'm with you and friends and people I'm comfortable with. And then we meet people, like, as a group. But if I were to just one on one be introduced to someone, I'm like the most shyest, awkwardest, quietest person ever. And.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I'm definitely not. I would say I'm an extrovert in the sense of, like, I like being with people. I always like being with people. And I'm can be very outgoing and I'm not like, overthinking everything I say. But the first times that I meet people, I. It takes me so long to warm up to someone, and people don't expect that from me at first. Especially when I meet girls like Earl girls out in person, and they're all like, wait, you're so much quieter than I expected you to be. And so many people say that. I think just because I have such, like, a loud, outgoing personality online, and I am loud and outgoing, but only when I'm, like, comfortable with someone.

[Ashton]

I also think that is a weird dynamic that sometimes, like, messes with my head a little bit. Because posting online, I feel like you can just post whatever and you're posting to so many people, but. Or at least I don't, like, actively think about how many people I'm posting to. When I post, I'm just, like, comfortable by myself in my room posting my weird little thoughts. And then it's like so many people see it and they feel like they know you and like, they expect you to be like that, like in an. A social setting or out in public. And that's just. I get scared a lot.

[Alex Earl]

I don't know. I really like meeting people and I do feel like when they tell me that they're like, they like, oh, I'm a neural girl. And I'm like, oh, my God. Okay, great. Like, I can be myself around her. Sometimes, though, when I meet people and I don't know if they know me, I don't know, I get really stressed out about opening up to someone. I like to, like, match the other person's energy a little bit more. But like you said with posting online and like, not realizing how many people you're posting for, I seen some TikTok or something and it was like, oh, there's like 100,000 people in this stadium. And the stadium was like, massive and huge. And she was like, I have like 2 million followers. And I was like, oh, my God. And I was like, you like, forget, like, how many people see the Things that you post. And I'm like, wait, should I not be posting these things?

[Ashton]

No, I know it's like scary. That's why I always freak out. Because then I'm like, I keep to myself mostly. I'm kind of private, you know, I don't share even. You yell at me all the time. You're like, why don't you tell me things? Why are you so secretive? Like blah blah, blah. And I'm like, I'm not secretive. I just like don't run around telling my to people all the time.

[Alex Earl]

That is something you do differently than me though. That kind of annoys me is you keep things to yourself. Like say like you go on a date with a guy. Right. I'd be the type to like go back and tell my friends like step by step, every detail. Like the way he moved his fingers, like where he looked. And Ashton and like a lot of like Kristen's this way too. Like won't say anything that goes good. And I'm like, hello, like where is all the details? And some people just don't like to share. But I like to share and I like to know. So it really pisses me off that you don't share with me.

[Ashton]

Yeah, I think you're also just nosy. In my life you're always like, what are you doing? What was this? What was that?

[Alex Earl]

And I'm like oh, like why don't you like to tell?

[Ashton]

Well, it's not that I don't like to, I don't know, it's just you don't need to know every single little detail of everything. Some things can be kept private.

[Alex Earl]

Yes, I do. I don't like to keep things private though. I guess that's another thing about me is maybe I don't really keep much private at all. I mean definitely on, not online and like definitely not with the people in my life. Like I just don't, I don't know if I'm going through something. Like I like to go through it and like explain it to someone else or tell someone else. Like even like I just, I don't really love being alone if I, I do like peace and quiet though. But if I'm being alone, I like to be alone like with someone, you know, so like someone could be like sitting in the same room as me. We don't have to talk, but I like another bodily presence.

[Ashton]

See that's where we differ as well. I always like self isolate and like to be alone.

[Alex Earl]

You scare the out of me when you do this because I'LL hang out with Ashton and she will go into like the bathroom or the bedroom or somewhere and like sit for like 45 minutes to like 4 hours and not come out. And like, we'll all be just hanging out, having a great time. And all of a sudden she goes away and she's in my room and I'm like knocking on the door like.

[Ashton]

Hey, like, you're so concerned all the time. You're like, are you okay?

[Alex Earl]

I'm like, they just don't understand. I'm like, where are you going? And she's just like, I just want to like sit here alone. And I'm like, you just flew all the way to Florida to hang out with me and now you're just sitting in my room alone.

[Ashton]

But that's why I need people like you in my life to be like, no, like my roommate who just knocked on my door and like was just coming to lay with me because we were out last night. But that's the thing. Like I will just stay alone forever unless there's someone else who comes in with me. I just, I don't know. I like to be alone, like sleeping alone too. Even if my friends.

[Alex Earl]

Oh, I do like to sleep alone.

[Ashton]

Yeah. Like I feel like at the end of the day doing so much with being around people all the time. I just like to come home to my room alone and have some me time.

[Alex Earl]

No, I like to be alone too. But like you like to have your me time like sometimes like too much. Like all the time. Like you're not having any like anything else but your me time. She, she literally locks herself in my room and I'm like, what? I, I scream? I'm like, get out.

[Ashton]

Yeah, you get mad at me?

[C]

Yeah.

[Alex Earl]

No, sometimes I just don't understand what you're doing.

[Ashton]

It's a little bit of a problem. I can self isolate a little too much. But that's also where all the overthinking happens. When I'm alone I'm just like.

[Alex Earl]

It's kind of when you're self isolating, do you want to be taken out of your self isolation or no?

[Ashton]

No, I like being alone and having my alone time. But sometimes I'm like, oh, I should stop being a weirdo and like interact with people.

[Alex Earl]

But when you first meet people, at least for me, I kind of got sidetracked. It takes me a minute to open up to people and I'm always astonished by people that can be themselves right away so loudly. Like, not that I'm not myself, but I'm Just not my full self right away. Like, I like to see, like, if this person's gonna share something about themselves or let their guard down a little bit. Like, I feel like I keep my guard up until I see that someone else's guard goes down a little bit. And then I'm like, okay, this is like a safe environment for me.

[Ashton]

I'm always, like, in awe of those people that can just walk into a room and not know anyone and just fully be, like, come in so strong with their personality and just not even care.

[Alex Earl]

Those are the type of people that when I hang out with someone and they're automatically right away, like, so fun and so friendly. I'm automatically so fun and friendly. But if the other person.

[Ashton]

Yeah, they'll like, bring me out of my shell.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, but if the other person's really quiet, then I tend to stay inside. So I'm like, maybe these other people are fun and loud too, but, like, I need to be the first to bring it out. And I. Some. I just kind of depends the environment. But I would say, like, a lot of people meet me and they're like, you're so much more shy when I first meet you than, like, after getting to know you.

[Ashton]

That is definitely a thing for me too. Also, a lot of people are always like, I thought you would be a before I met you, because I'm just, like, kind of quiet and reserved and not, like, super talking a bunch to people.

[Alex Earl]

So I get that a lot too. It's just like my rbf and I'm like, I'm having, like, a great time talking to you, but, like, I'm not all the time smiling ear to ear while talking to you like this. Like, I don't know why. This is just like, I would just rather talk like this. And before I talk to people, they're like, I thought you were going to be the biggest bitch. And I really hate that I give off that vibe. And then the second that I talk to you, though, I'm like, you'll see that I'm very nice. But I don't know. I don't. I don't want to give off that vibe. And I've been trying to, like, work on my RDF because it's sad. It's sad. I don't want people to work that.

[Ashton]

I mean, yeah, it expends a lot of energy for me to fully, like, try to show my personality.

[Alex Earl]

I almost think sometimes, like, the people that you meet that are like, hi, how are you? Nice to meet you. Like, yes, like, whatever Like, I'm like, I don't trust you for some reason. I'm like, why are you so happy right now?

[Ashton]

It's like you're putting on a show. Yeah.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah. I'm like. And everyone's like, oh, they're so nice. And I'm like, are they, though? Because I've met some people that are like that, that actually aren't the best people, but they're just really good at being really friendly. But I'm like, are you that happy all the time? I don't think so.

[Ashton]

I feel like for someone to really, like, genuinely like me as a person, you have to, like, we have to have multiple interactions and multiple conversations and hang out. I feel like to actually, like, know my real personality, you have to spend real time with me and, like, actually hang out with me and get to know me. Because it's not. It's not something that I can like.

[Alex Earl]

To warm up, too.

[Ashton]

Yeah. Because I don't know.

[Alex Earl]

But I'm. I don't know. I'm not as bad as you, I don't think. And I. I will say one thing that has happened over the past year, year and a half with being in, like, the public eye is media training. And I. So basically, you know, when you have some type of social presence and you're going to be doing interviews and press and, I don't know, maybe going on other podcasts or whatever, you're just talking online in general, you usually do some type of media training in the beginning. And it's weird because I'm like, what? Even I was in college, I was like, what am I even being media trained for? Like, I don't even know what I'm doing. And you're just kind of like, plopped into these scenarios, like, oh, all of a sudden you're on a carpet answering these questions. All of a sudden you're, like, doing an interview with this magazine. And I hate interviews so much. But the thing is, I used to be so scared by interviews because I did all this media training because I really wanted to be perfect in my responses. And I think for me, where I would get my wires sort of crossed is like, we have been brought up to have, like, a business professional background at least. Like, that's the way, like, dad raised us and work. And when you're in a work environment, you are to be professional. And, you know, we learned a lot of that in school as well, and how to be in an interview. And then the thing that would trip me up is I wanted to be that, like, Professional, buttoned up, corporate type of girl in a work setting. And I want people to take me seriously, but at the same time, when you're just someone who's like an online presence, that's not really what they're looking for. They're looking for a personality. So, like, I got so worried about saying everything, like, buttoned up, perfection. That's not even who I am online and what I'm posting and the reason that people enjoy me. So I feel like I've done all these interviews and press and I just wasn't even being myself. I was, like, so afraid to say anything that could maybe be just not perfectly in line. And I think I did too much media training. So now I'm literally untraining myself from the media training.

[Ashton]

Untraining the media training? No, and that's like the opposite for me. I've not been media trained. And then I get scared and just start blabbing because I should. No, but I'm also. I still struggle to, like, get my actual personality across in interviews. I, like, see videos of myself and I'm being such, like a weirdo and I'm like, who is that? But I don't recognize.

[Alex Earl]

Hard.

[Ashton]

Like, it's so hard.

[Alex Earl]

It's not. It's hard work. It's hard to.

[Ashton]

It's just difficult.

[Alex Earl]

Well, just the second that someone's, like, interviewing you, it feels so professional. And I'm like, why can't. Like, this happened to me, actually, last year at. I was at Paris Fashion Week and I was doing a interview after the Miu Miu show with someone, and I was with this girl the whole day. We were having a great conversation, great banter. And the second that she sat down, she's like, okay, let's start the interview. And she hit, like, record on her phone.

[Ashton]

And then you just.

[Alex Earl]

I clammed up and I literally couldn't speak. I didn't know who I was. I was like, wait, no.

[Ashton]

So that one interview I did with Nylon magazine, we were driving from my hotel to the Coach show, and the interviewer was in the car with me and we were just talking and she was just like, oh, like, how was your day? I was like, oh, I had a photo shoot this morning. Like, it's been crazy. I just had like five minutes to change, blah, blah, blah. And then she just kind of, like, was talking to me, like normal about my day. And then all of a sudden, I look over on her lap and her phone is recording. And I was like. I was like. And then immediately I started, like, Stuttering. And it was really bad.

[Alex Earl]

Trick yourself into not knowing that it's happening.

[Ashton]

And that was the interview, too, where I was like. I was. It was such a busy day for me. I was, like, so stressed, and, like, not a single clear thought crossed my brain. And that was the interview with the headline where it was like, my sister gives me the ick. And I was like, oh, my God, this is why I can't do interviews.

[Alex Earl]

No, because you haven't had any media training. Your interviews have been so good and so funny. Like, the headlines being like, if I don't see any famous people here, I'm leaving. Or when you were like, my sister gives me the ick. Like, that stuff is so. That's what makes something interesting. And now I'm trying to be more like you. And I have been doing a good job recently, and I'm just like, what the hell am I so scared about? And I'm like, I am so boring. And I come across so just not myself in these interviews. Because I'm just trying to say, like, the pitch perfect answer. And I'm like, I'm not running for president. I'm just being myself. So I have to let loose a little.

[Ashton]

It's just still so scary in general to be interviewed. I always. In my mind, I'm like, I need the right answer. That's, like, kind of shows my personality. Maybe it's a little witty. There's no right answer. And that's the problem. I struggle with a lot when I'm like, there's no right answer. I'm like, what do I do?

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, I just kind of come into this new headspace where I'm a little bit more like, I don't really care what people think of me. And I think I was so stuck on just having all these eyes on me and having. Or wanting everyone to like me. So I would try to like, mold myself into something that everyone would like. And I was like, I'm not even being myself. And I was like, if people don't like me, that's fine, but I need to just, like, stay true to who I am. I think I actually have been a lot better about. Just, like, I went to the CFDA Awards and granted, like, they were good. That was. I feel like the first time that I just was, like, letting loose a little bit. And not that it was anything crazy, but I was much more comfortable. Like, usually before I do those interviews, like, I'm choked up and just so scared. And then I was like, what am I so scared of? Like, I'm just talking about myself. So it's definitely taken a while to get adjusted to, but I feel like I'm finally coming into a space where I'm sure of myself and also used to these things where there's a camera being shoved in your face with a microphone, and I've just been a little bit more comfortable with it.

[Ashton]

Yeah, for me, I'm so bad at talking about myself because I'm just like, oh. Like, I don't know. Like, I'm just me. Like, I. I don't know. Like, my mind goes blank when people ask me questions about myself. I'm like. Because I just. I'm like, I don't know, because I feel like half of me wants to be perceived a certain way. And then I get nervous and then I, like, end up losing all sense of self. And that's like the anxious, scared. I'm just always scared a little bit of everything. Like.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah. I think what I've realized, though, is the more that I'm just myself, the better it goes. And I always get stressed about when I'm in big groups of people that when I leave. You know when someone. You hang out with someone for the first time and then they leave and everyone's just like, wow, like, they're so nice. Like, they're so great. I was like, I feel like no one has ever said that about me.

[Ashton]

And then I think that all the time. I always think I'm just like. Like there. Like I'm an npc. Like, I feel like that's how I am.

[Alex Earl]

And I hung out with Jake and all his friends at a dinner in la, and I was like, you know what? Because I consciously was like, you know what? I just need to, like, be myself. Because it was people I didn't really know at first. And usually I just. I think when you're in a group of people where there's multiple people that know each other and you don't know anyone for the first time, it's a lot easier to just be quiet because, like, you're not part of the group or part of their things. But this dinner in my head, I literally was like, let's just, like, be really friendly. Just talk, like normal. Act like you know everyone. And then I left and Jake texted me and was like, everyone, when you left and got in your car, said that you were so nice. And I was like, I'm literally framing this text. It was the coolest thing.

[Ashton]

Especially, like, with Jake's friends. Like, they're just so funny.

[Alex Earl]

They're so funny.

[Ashton]

I'm like one of those people who's like, my whole life I've been like, I won't speak unless spoken to. Kind of like, I'm not going to be the one to go up to you and be like, hi, let's be best friends. Like, blah, blah, blah. All my roommates said I was really weird for this. Like, in a class, if I don't know any friends in my class, I will just go and sit and not interact with anyone, not talk to anyone and leave. Like, I don't understand.

[Alex Earl]

You don't have class friends?

[Ashton]

No, all my friends are always like, yeah, I was, like, with my class friend and I was like, telling them about, like, this crazy, like, weekend we had, like, blah, blah. I was telling them all this and that. We were talking, we were texting, and I'm like, you just, like, make class friends. Like, you look to someone sitting next to you and you're like, hey, like, let's be friends. Like, that is so scary to me. That's really. It's scary to me.

[Alex Earl]

A class friend is the best type of friend. It's like a work friend. Like, you just get each other on a different type of level. And it's like, there's never any drama, obviously, because, like, you just see them, like, going to class and like, I think my class friends are, like, some of the best friends in my life.

[Ashton]

No, but, like, I'm sure, like, I wish I could make class friends, but I'm just so scared to just be like, hey, you know, like, I can't go up to anyone. If someone were like, I feel like the only class friends I've ever made were people that have come up to me. But even then, I'm still, like, so awkward. And I'm like, yeah, like. Like, I'm such a freak.

[Alex Earl]

For some reason I'm trying to remember. I don't know, I'm not overly the person to, like, go up to someone and be like, hey, whatever. But usually I feel like my class friends formed from me being like, when's the test? I wasn't paying attention. And then you just start talking.

[Ashton]

That's why I dig myself into a hole, because I'm like, I'm so scared to interact with anyone. If I miss work or notes or like a deadline or something, I just won't. I won't text anyone even if I have a question. Like, I missed a note because I ran to the bathroom. I'll just be like, oh, damn it. Better luck next time. Yes, I like it's really weird. And I'm aware that it's weird, but I'm just, like, so, so scared.

[Alex Earl]

And you know that Natalie's one of my friends that was a class friend.

[Ashton]

Really?

[Alex Earl]

This was actually psycho of me. What I found out. So Natalie was in my class, and I found out this was freshman year that we had been getting with the same guy. And I was like, wait a minute. I need to know what's going on here. So I went up to her after class and was like, hey, do you want to, like, go to Starbucks together? Like, let's get a coffee. And she was like, yeah. And we were just talking about, I don't know, it was like a law class or something. We were talking about our homework or final coming up. And I was like, so, like, are you getting with blah, blah, blah. She was like, yeah, I know. I can't believe I did this. And I was like, yeah, me too. I was like, doesn't he kind of suck? And then she was like, oh, my God, he's the worst. And then we started, like, on him together, and then we became best friends.

[Ashton]

I love.

[Alex Earl]

I know, I know. But isn't that, like, crazy?

[Ashton]

So funny.

[Alex Earl]

She was just a class A girl in my class that, like, I found out was getting with the same guy as me. And I was like, like, let's. Let's discuss this. Because I was like, I don't know if she knows. And I was like, if I was her, I would want to know too. And I didn't have beef with her, but I just was like, I also didn't like the guy, so I wanted to, like, let her know that I didn't like him, but I guess I did kind of. I don't know what was going on, but anywho, we're best friends now.

[Ashton]

I love that. I had no idea.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah. And one time I went into his room and there was another girl's dress on the bed. And I remember being like, oh, like, that's not my dress. And it was, like, so awkward. And he, like, swept it to the side. I remember our junior year of college, Natalie was like, oh, my God. I had this, like, cheetah print dress I would wear all the time freshman year, and I lost it. And I was like, wait, I found that cheetah print dress when I went into his room to get with him, and I was so upset, and it was her dress. And literally, we're each other's mistresses, and we didn't put it together until, like, junior year that the dress I found that I was so upset by was her dress.

[Ashton]

That's so funny.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, so that's how we became best friends. But it was all thanks to class.

[Ashton]

Yeah, see, that's very extroverted coded of you.

[Alex Earl]

I don't know, I'm. I guess I am extroverted, but it just takes me a while to warm up to people. But I used to be. I used to not be this way at all. I used to be so shy. I remember when we were in maybe like 5th grade, remember when mom took us to. What modeling agency was that? Oh, Ford.

[Ashton]

I think it was Ford. Yeah, the, like, open casting calls in New York City for Ford models.

[Alex Earl]

We literally waited like five blocks down for this model casting. And I got a call back for this. Some type of. I don't remember, obviously, the shoot at the time, but we, like, walked in and then it was to see if you would get picked for the shoot. And it was me and, like, a bunch of other girls. And you wait in this long line. Finally got up and the question, they were like, hi, nice to meet you. I was like, hi, I'm Alex. Like, that's literally how shy I was. And he was like, what do you like to this day, I remember his question was, what do you like to do on a Saturday? And I stood in silence for a kid. You. Not four minutes straight, literally just looking at this man, like, that's literally me right now. And mom was, like, tapping me. And she was like, alex, like, you like to ride horses? Like, say you like to ride horses. I'm like, I like to ride horses.

[Ashton]

Wait, no, that's literally me. When I was doing, like, the little video clips for the Nylon and Elite daily interviews I did, they did, like, fun little social media clips where they asked me, like, stupid little questions, like superlatives. I literally. Alex, I'm, like, really embarrassed by this. They asked me a question and I was like, a whole minute. And I was looking around the room. I was like, ashton, no one's gonna fucking tell you the answer. Just say something.

[Alex Earl]

I know, I know. Sometimes you just have to not care. But. But I will say you've always been really shy in ordering food at restaurants. Like, now you're better. But I would, like, cry. It was maybe until you went to college that, like, you wouldn't order at a restaurant. She would say, I remember. And you would get so mad at me. When we were little, the waitress would come over and be like, what does everyone want to eat? We would go around the table, it would get to Ashton she would say, hot dog. Hot dog. And I was like, ashton, use your words.

[Ashton]

No, it's so funny because my ex boyfriend from high school, when I first would, like, meet his family and do family dinners with him, they would all fuck with me and be like, ashton, like, stop being so loud. Like, stop talking so much. And they would always on me for it. And they had a joke where, because I think I said something and they were all like, what? And I remember his. His brother would have this.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, you would talk like. You would talk like Marcel.

[Ashton]

I literally was. His brother would do the same thing that you just said. He'd be like, hey, Ashton. And it was like. It was, like, so embarrassing. But at least they were like a fun, outgoing group to where they made fun of me for it. If his family was super uptight and strict and scary, I probably would never speak to them ever, because I'd just be too scared.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, meeting boyfriend's family, scary.

[Ashton]

It's so scary to me. But.

[Alex Earl]

And, like, you're trying to be on your best behavior.

[Ashton]

Like, you want them to like you, but you also want to, like, show your personality, but you're not sure.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, it's like, you're like, just boring if you're not showing your personality, but it's so scary. And you're like, what if they don't, like, laugh and. Yeah, it was actually funny. Last year, I met Braxton's grandpa. He's Puerto Rican, so he. He kind of speaks, like, broken English or he has, like, a very thick accent, so he doesn't get his words out correctly all the time. And. Oh, my gosh, what did he say? So the first time I met him, we were going to a Dolphins game, and I was, like, dressed up. I had my hair done, makeup on. And then the second time I met him, I just came over to, like, hang out with his family, and I was in sweatpants, my hair was up, I had no makeup on. And he was like, you looked better before.

[Ashton]

And I was like, I would literally start crying.

[Alex Earl]

But he said that he meant to say, you look better than you did before. But I think that was his family just trying to make me feel better.

[Ashton]

They were just trying to make you feel better. I don't think that's what he meant.

[Alex Earl]

But, like, meeting the family and, like, you know when you're just like. It was Braxton's mom, Braxton's aunt, Braxton's dad, all these people, his cousin, people I just didn't know. And the grandpa literally roasted me in front of everyone. And I was like, I'm gonna go home now.

[Ashton]

That's so funny.

[Alex Earl]

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[Ashton]

It sounds like I've been talking very negatively about being introverted, but I like it. I like to like, keep to myself and be private and like, I don't have to rely on anyone else to like kind of me.

[Alex Earl]

No, it's definitely a great skill. It's definitely.

[Ashton]

I like it. I think it's like kind of cute. I'm like giving mysterious.

[Alex Earl]

I'm someone who like, I don't really like to be alone. And I think like being able to be introverted in a way is like, you're comfortable with yourself is great. Like I'm almost like uncomfortable with myself at times. Like I don't want to be alone or in my own thoughts. Like I always need to be in the presence of someone else. Like if I'm alone, I'm alone together. Meaning like someone else is in the room. Yeah.

[Ashton]

I feel like you view being alone as like a negative thing and I view it as a great thing. Like I love my alone time, so.

[Alex Earl]

I'm definitely have to get better at that. And it definitely doesn't help also having like a boyfriend because then you're also like codependent on them and just like want to be with them. And I, I feel myself, you know, me, it's hard for me to feel emotions and I feel myself like missing Braxton a lot and like being upset when I'M not with him. And I'm like, oh, no. Like, I don't. I don't want to be that way, but I am that way now.

[Ashton]

Yeah. Do you ever feel. Yeah, I was gonna say, do you ever feel like after you're doing a lot of, like, social interaction, that you, like, need to, like, decompress and, like, come back? Like, you need to take a break? Like, I always do. I always have.

[Alex Earl]

I feel more alive. I feel better if I'm doing social stuff. Social stuff. Social stuff. Like, I feel not good when I'm, like, alone, Alone, alone, alone. Having health and wellness.

[Ashton]

I like to, like, be social and go out, obviously, but it gets to a point where I'm always like, okay, I need to, like, regroup and, like, be alone for a minute and, like, come back. It, like, it's, like, coming back to reality for me almost, which is like, no, I don't.

[Alex Earl]

I don't feel that way. I don't know. I feel pretty, like, alive and grounded when I'm with other people. I think, like, I thrive off of being with, like, my friends and those interactions and. Well, I don't.

[Ashton]

Yes, I do, too, But I don't know. I always, like, need to come back to me at some point. I don't know. It's a weird. I don't really know how to explain it. I feel like people will. Will get what I'm saying.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah, no, I'm. There's definitely a group of people that feel that way, and that's honestly, like, I wonder if that's healthier.

[Ashton]

I hosted an event with a clothing brand in LA this summer, and they were like. I wasn't really given any details until the day of when I got there, and I was, like, terrified. I was like, what do you mean? I'm hosting an event? Like, that is. Was one of my biggest fears, but it was honestly pretty chill. It was just like a group of girls. We did a Pilates class and then a lunch. And then they were like, you're gonna have a little session after where all the girls are gonna, like, we're gonna sit around the couch and, like, play games, and they're gonna ask you questions about yourself and all this stuff. And I was like, what? That's terrifying. But then I was like, okay, yeah, sure. Because I wasn't in a place to, like, say no. I was like, yeah, that's on. Good. That's great. I'm not scared at all. And then the event went on, and we did the Pilates class, and then we had the lunch after. And then everyone was kind of just, like, socializing and talking after because they were doing. There was, like, a little tattoo station and, like, a little permanent jewelry station. So everyone was kind of just, like, walking around socializing. And the. The woman that was, like, running the event kept coming up to me. She was like, are you okay? Like, are you upset that, like, you're not getting enough attention? Like, I was like, oh, no. I was like, I'm doing great. But I was being. I, like, was actively aware of how weird I was being. I was like, I was trying to talk to girls, but I'd be like, hi, like, nice to meet you. And no one was really, like, coming up to me because I don't know, like, if they thought I. Now I'm like, I'm so scared that I left, and everyone thought I was a bitch. I was so shy to just, like, I really wanted to meet everyone there and be like, hey, like, what's going on? But, like, I was just so nervous, and I, like, ended up. I think I met, like, three girls. And the interactions were so awkward, and I left, and I was like, what is wrong with me? Like, I really need to work on that.

[Alex Earl]

Oh, I feel like once I meet people, I'm fine, but I definitely would feel, like, a sense. I don't have confidence in the sense that people ever want to, like, meet.

[Ashton]

Well, that was the thing. That's what I was thinking. I was like, why would anyone want to talk to me? And then I was, like, literally hosting this event.

[Alex Earl]

That happened really hard to me at this summer at the Hot Mess boat party, which was, like, an event that I threw, sold tickets for girls bought. There was literally, like, 60,000 people trying to buy it in the first, like, minute. And it sold out. And I walked in and was like, head down, head down. Like, oh, my God. Like, I should have been like, hey, like, thanks for coming. Welcome. But I was like, I couldn't wrap my head around the fact that I don't know so that I lack a little confidence in. And, like, people are like, oh, you should do, like, a podcast tour, or you should, like, throw parties, like, for, you know, Earl girls to come. And I just, like, never want to because I have no faith that anyone would show up because I'm like, what? Like, I just don't think so. Like, I really just don't have faith that anyone would come.

[Ashton]

Which is so funny because at that party, I remember I was talking to girls the entire night. I get very talkative and way more outgoing when I have a few drinks in me. I was best friends with everyone at that party. I was, like, down at the bar with all of them, just talking the whole time. And dad kept being like, where have you been? I'm like, I'm with my best friends. Like, what are you talking about? These girls I met five minutes ago. I don't know. I think it's like, I'm so used to being so shy that when I have, like, one drink, I'm like, oh, I don't care anymore. I'm like, wee.

[Alex Earl]

Sometimes I think, like, that's the way I have to go about it. Or, like, for these interviews, I'm like, I need to pretend as if I just took, like, a shot or so and was a shot.

[Ashton]

Yeah, maybe I should. No, I am done with drinking. I. Yeah, I hate it so much.

[Alex Earl]

I don't want this to sound bad, but I think I'm, like, a good drinker.

[Ashton]

What do you mean, you're a good drinker?

[Alex Earl]

I don't know. I just, like, haven't been going out, so I was scared that, like, I wouldn't be able to do it anymore.

[Ashton]

Like. Like, I handle your alcohol.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah. Because I think I got. Remember, like, a few episodes ago when I was like, wait, I'm so hungover, I can't, like, move. I think I just, like, wasn't used to going out because now, like, I'm completely fine. Like, I can go out and be functioning the next day. I think if anything, it almost, like, sparks more ideas for me, I think.

[Ashton]

Yeah, you just, like, the. In your little, like, diluted hungover state where you're still a little drunk. I get very creative.

[Alex Earl]

I'm so much better. I was the. Wait, so this Instagram I posted the other day when it was, like, pictures of me out with, like, the martini glass and then at the deli with the sandwich. I was, like, still drunk, I think, the next morning, because I just, like, threw that up on Instagram and it was like, yeah, I love it. It took me, like, two seconds, and it did so well. And I was like, maybe I need to just, like, lose a little bit. Have a little dirty martini and start posting my Instagram.

[Ashton]

We love the martinis.

[Alex Earl]

But it is bad because, like, I do think things are so much better when I'm drinking. Like, I have this tick tock of me and Sally because we were out and someone said, like, dun dun. Like, you know the Law and Order sound.

[Ashton]

Yeah.

[Alex Earl]

And we were like, that's really funny. Like, that's gonna be our new Thing, like.

[Ashton]

And I could so see Sally doing that.

[Alex Earl]

Like, yeah, no, we thought it was the best thing ever. So I made this TikTok, or 10 to this sound law and Order. And Sally was like, you should post it right now. And I was like, I don't post things when I'm, like, having a drink.

[Ashton]

Because, like, you. Because I just don't.

[Alex Earl]

I just don't. I was like, you know what? Because we're not in the right headspace. Let's just not. And it's something that I've learned to not do. And I didn't post it until he was like, you should post it. I was like, I'm just gonna wait till the morning. And I woke up in the morning and I watched these tick tocks. And I was like, this like. Like it literally, like, couldn't be less funny. And in the moment always happens. So good. And we were like. And I was like, we. It's just like, not funny in the slightest. And we thought it was the best TikTok of all time. And I was like, that's why you don't post when you're out.

[Ashton]

No, when I drink, I think I am the funniest person ever and I want to post everything. And I do sometimes. And then I wake up and I'm like, ashton, what did you do? You're just being weird.

[Alex Earl]

The second that Ashton starts drinking, I forgot that you do this. This. You don't stop talking.

[Ashton]

Oh, no, I.

[Alex Earl]

You actually, like, sometimes, like, I talk too much. She, like, is a child.

[Ashton]

Say this. I tell everyone. I'm like, I need a muzzle on my face when I drink.

[Alex Earl]

It's the second that Ash has a drink. Like, she has. She.

[Ashton]

I completely switch.

[Alex Earl]

She doesn't stop talking. Like, I don't even think you're breathing.

[Ashton]

That is what I get all of my anxiety from, is just how much I just. All I remember every night after going out is just me talking and talking. I'm like, what? Saying, I don't even know. And I'm really scared. And I always get in situations like.

[Alex Earl]

This and my friends are like, is because, like, she is. She's talking.

[Ashton]

I'll just start talking. I don't talk when I'm sober. Just when I'm drunk.

[Alex Earl]

I mean, I think everyone, like, drunk talks a little bit when you, like, say something to someone and you're like.

[Ashton]

But I think it's such a. A harsh difference for me because I'm mute normally.

[Alex Earl]

Yeah. I don't really get anxiety, though, about things like that. Like, things That I do, because I'm.

[Ashton]

Just more so like. Because you know when someone's talking to you a lot and they just keep talking and you're out and you're like.

[Alex Earl]

And you're like, get away from me.

[Ashton]

Yeah, that's me. I'm that person and I'm aware of it. I need. Yeah, we're quitting alcohol. I hate her. Love her, though. It's a love hate relationship.

[Alex Earl]

I mean, I don't know. That's the other thing is I think it took a while for me to realize. I don't. I don't mean this to sound bad, but it may sound bad, but when you're going out in college, it's like everyone's going out and like to like, black. So. Yes. Like, you getting so drunk and so it's not fun. And it's like you don't even remember. And I'm like, you can go out and have fun and have a drink or two and just like, be able to let loose a little, but you don't need to be like, like blacked.

[Ashton]

Out, not remembering anything. Yeah, that. Yeah, you don't want to be like that.

[Alex Earl]

Another thing I found about going out, I just really want to dance. Like, I was like, what is the fun in going out recently? And I went through a phase where I was like, going out's not fun anymore. And then I was like, wait, I want to do something. And I was like, what is it that I enjoy about going out? And it's really just being around my friends and dancing. I just want to dance.

[Ashton]

You don't understand. Last night we went out.

[Alex Earl]

Like, I don't really want to talk to people. I just want to dance.

[Ashton]

No, that's the thing I don't really get about the whole old, like, you know what, for example, like, Leggetts at home, they have the same soundtrack of, like, oldies that they play every day. And then it's so packed and it's everyone just like standing around the bar talking and drinking. And I'm like, okay, yeah, like, it's nice to like. I like to go when it's like you're catching up with people and talking. But when I want to go out, I'm like, I want to dance and I dance like a freak. Yeah, Like, I don't want.

[Alex Earl]

That's what's fun about going out is just like letting loose and dancing.

[Ashton]

Last night after the event we were at, we were gonna go to this other bar after because the event ended, and instead we went to my friend's House. And there was, like, five of us, and we were just playing music on the tv, and we danced for, like, three hours. And I was like, this is really embarrassing. But we were just, like, having fun and, like, dancing.

[Alex Earl]

When I lived with my friends, we did this one night where we all were, like, supposed to go out, and then we just came back, but we were already, like, a little tipsy. And we played music and we just danced like freaks for, like. Like, we all were, like, taking our clothes off and just dancing and, like, laughing and having fun. And, like, that's all that I want to do when I'm going out. I just want to dance.

[Ashton]

I. I do, too. I love.

[Alex Earl]

Girls just want to dance.

[Ashton]

Girls just want to dance. Girls just want to dance.

[Alex Earl]

I don't like the way that I dance. And when I'm going out and it's just not good. But I always. My go to when I get excited when I'm out is I'll turn around and put my hands on something and put my face down, and I just go like. But, like, it's not like shaking it. It's just like. Like, lift up and down. Lift up and down. Lift.

[Ashton]

You know what's worse?

[Alex Earl]

But, like, that's like. If someone's like. If I get excited for something, I'm just like.

[Ashton]

You're just like. Like.

[Alex Earl]

It'S my happy dance.

[Ashton]

No, my new dance move that I keep doing now. And I'm, like, fully aware. Cause I see people look at me and I'm like, oh, this is weird. But I can't stop doing it. I do this danky leg. I like. I go like this, and I, like, twist my knee in and out, and, like, I go. I take it all the way to the floor and back up, and I'm like, what am I doing? I'm like, I look so weird.

[Alex Earl]

You know, Sarah's. Sarah's dance is this.

[Ashton]

Yeah.

[Alex Earl]

Just goes like this, like, really intensely.

[Ashton]

I love people's dance moves so much.

[Alex Earl]

I've been literally, like, pangering this panda. I'm, like, ripping its legs.

[Ashton]

I really want to snuggle with him right now.

[Alex Earl]

I know. Isn't he cute?

[Ashton]

Yeah. How's Bibi?

[Alex Earl]

Baby's gooch.

[Ashton]

Miss him. Panda.

[Alex Earl]

Missing baby. Always.

[Ashton]

Always. Honestly. Yeah.

[Alex Earl]

Well, I should probably do. What would Alex do?

[Ashton]

Yeah, you probably should.

[Alex Earl]

It's time to kick you out.

[Ashton]

Okay. Love you.

[Alex Earl]

Okay. Love you. All right, so instead of what would Alex do at the end of this episode? Because I know we've missed what would Alex do the past few episodes and that is. You guys know my favorite part of each episode. I have decided that next week's episode we are going to do a full what Would Alex Do Episode. But even better because it's gonna be actual voicemails that you guys leave into the podcast. So I'm gonna be able to hear your voice and we've never done that before. I'm really, really excited for it. I was gonna sit down and do what Would Alex Do? But I was like, I don't want it to be rushed. I really want to hear what you guys have to say and I actually want to hear your voices and speak with the Earl girls. And I know we haven't done this in a few episodes, so I'm really excited for that. So I will see you guys next Thursday. Thanks for tuning in. Don't forget to subscribe. Follow this podcast wherever you're listening, watching. I love you guys and Earl Girls. I will see you next Thursday. Bye. Wait, did I just turn that off? How do I get that back on? I'm a hot mess Netcredit is here.

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