AI Boyfriends, Love Island & Sabrina Carpenter Discourse

Summary

House of Maher Episode Summary: "AI Boyfriends, Love Island & Sabrina Carpenter Discourse"

Release Date: July 1, 2025

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of House of Maher, Olympic rugby player Ilona Maher hosts her sisters, Olivia Maher, creator of "Girl Dinner," and human rights advocate Adrianna "Dre Baby" Maher. The trio dives into a variety of contemporary topics, seamlessly blending personal anecdotes with broader societal discussions. This episode focuses on the intriguing rise of AI boyfriends, controversies surrounding Sabrina Carpenter’s latest album cover, and the ever-popular reality show, Love Island.

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AI Boyfriends and the Impact of ChatGPT on Relationships and Critical Thinking

The episode opens with Olivia Maher highlighting a Reddit thread titled "My Boyfriend is AI," where users share their interactions with AI companions. She notes how individuals are increasingly relying on AI to fulfill emotional needs, even going as far as creating visual representations of life with their AI partners ([00:00]).

Ilona Maher expresses a surprising enthusiasm for the concept, saying, “As you're saying this, Ilona, I'm actually kind of seeing the thrill of it” ([00:13]). However, the conversation quickly shifts to the MIT study suggesting that tools like ChatGPT may be eroding critical thinking skills in users ([01:16]). Olivia explains the study's methodology, which involved subjects writing SAT essays using different resources, revealing that ChatGPT users became progressively lazier with each essay ([01:35]).

Adriana "Dre Baby" Maher concurs, emphasizing that AI has become a crutch, preventing individuals from developing their problem-solving abilities ([02:16]). She further elaborates on the dangers of dependency on AI for everything, from writing notes to generating creative content ([04:38]).

A notable quote from Olivia Maher at [03:24] underscores the severity of the issue:

“It's spooky that over a study that's just happened, they could already see a cognitive decline.”

The sisters discuss the ethical implications of AI-generated content, including concerns about plagiarism and the impact on human authors ([08:22]). They delve into the advancements in AI-generated media, such as deepfakes, highlighting the unsettling realism that makes it difficult to distinguish from genuine content ([09:56]).

Ilona Maher poignantly remarks:

“It's becoming undetectable. And that is horrific to me. I think we all just need to touch some grass.”

This segment concludes with a heartfelt plea from Olivia to listeners to prioritize real human interactions over AI dependencies, emphasizing the importance of maintaining cognitive and emotional well-being.

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Sabrina Carpenter’s Album Cover Controversy

Transitioning to pop culture, the sisters discuss Sabrina Carpenter’s recent album cover for "Man's Best Friend," which has sparked significant debate. The cover features Sabrina kneeling with a man pulling her hair, reminiscent of a dog on a leash ([19:14]).

Olivia Maher defends the artistry, drawing parallels to Madonna’s provocative imagery:

“It's art, though. It’s her thoughts, it's her emotions. It's what she's putting out into the world.”

Adriana Maher critiques the imagery as degrading to women, comparing it to calling a woman a "bitch" (a female dog), yet acknowledges Sabrina’s broader artistic expression:

“She's always testing the boundaries, which is why I'm not listening to her again.”

The conversation shifts to Lola Young’s "One Thing," a song celebrating female sexuality, and the differing public receptions compared to Sabrina’s work. Alona Maher praises the song for its empowerment and catchy beats, while Adriana Maher emphasizes the importance of respecting artistic expression:

“If you don't like listening to explicit music, don't listen to it.”

The sisters collectively highlight the double standards in how female and male artists express similar themes, advocating for more acceptance of women’s expressions of sexuality in music.

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Love Island Discussion and Related Online Bullying

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing Love Island, focusing on recent episodes and viral moments. Alona Maher recounts a poignant moment where a contestant reveals she is a mother, leading to online bullying ([35:07]). The sisters express concern over the harshness of online commentary and its impact on contestants’ mental health.

Olivia Maher warns against the negative judgments often directed at contestants, stressing the importance of supportive behavior:

“Don’t bully people.”

The discussion also touches on the pressures faced by participants, especially young women undergoing physical transformations before appearing on the show. Adriana Maher highlights the societal pressures to conform to beauty standards and the subsequent harassment that follows:

“People are going to comment on it anyway.”

The sisters advocate for a more compassionate online environment, reminding listeners that behind every contestant is a real person with feelings and struggles.

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Book Recommendations and Tea Time

In the latter part of the episode, the sisters share their latest literary adventures during the "Tea Time" segment. Adriana Maher recommends "Things We Water" by Mariana Zapata, a werewolf-themed novel, despite giving it a modest rating of two stars out of five ([50:58]). Conversely, Alona Maher praises "Bride" by Ali Hazelwood, highlighting its engaging plot and well-developed characters, advocating for listeners to give it a high rating of 4.7 out of five ([55:06]).

Olivia Maher adds her recommendation of "Breeding" by Christian Newman, a non-fiction book that resonates with her personal experiences as a TV writer traveling the world. She lauds its humor and insightful perspectives on life and love:

“She is funny in every sentence. Just her whole vibe and how she writes is hilarious.”

The sisters encourage listeners to share their own book recommendations, fostering a community of shared literary interests.

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Conclusion

The episode wraps up with the sisters reflecting on their experiences at the Cannes Lions Festival, sharing anecdotes about networking, attending panels, and encountering celebrities like Megan Rapinoe and Sue Bird ([47:24]). Alona Maher expresses a desire to return for a more relaxed visit, away from the hustle of the festival environment.

In their signature style, the Maher sisters blend humor with heartfelt advice, urging listeners to engage in real-life interactions and maintain a balance between digital and personal relationships. They conclude with a friendly reminder to follow the show on social media and to "dump your AI boyfriend," reinforcing their message of valuing genuine human connections.

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Notable Quotes

• Ilona Maher [03:24]:

  “It's spooky that over a study that's just happened, they could already see a cognitive decline.”

• Olivia Maher [07:59]:

  “Use it or lose it. You gotta use a muscle or you're gonna lose it. And your brain is the same way.”

• Alona Maher [13:08]:

  “It sounds like you can create what you want.”

• Olivia Maher [25:26]:

  “Hey, turn it off.”

• Adriana Maher [42:20]:

  “It's never good and never feels good to see that stuff.”

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Be sure to tune in every Tuesday for new episodes of House of Maher, where the Maher sisters continue to bring insightful and entertaining conversations to your tables.

Transcript

[Olivia Mar]

There's a whole Reddit thread. My boyfriend is AI. It's women and people on there talking, like sending screenshots of how their AI cares for them and they check up on them. They ask him to make images of them in a house together and what that would look like.

[Alona Mar]

And you know what? As you're saying this, Ilona, I'm actually kind of seeing the thrill of it.

[Olivia Mar]

No, stop.

[Alona Mar]

Because welcome to House of Bar at Waverick. We have a few house rules.

[Adriana Mar]

Girls are magic, Reading is hot and so are you.

[Alona Mar]

Make sure to subscribe to our YouTube and watch there as well because we're really pretty and you want to see that. I'm the middle sister, Alona Mar.

[Olivia Mar]

I'm the eldest daughter, Olivia Mar.

[Adriana Mar]

And I'm the youngest, Adriana Mar.

[Alona Mar]

Coming up on today's episode of House of Mar. We're talking AI boyfriends, Sabrina Carpenter's God approved album cover, and Love Island.

[Olivia Mar]

We love to start our show by touching a little grass, which is just, you know, sometimes you can take life a little too seriously. So we're here to remind other people and ourselves to touch some grass. Ladies, I want to talk about the MIT study that came out this week. Did you see anything about this?

[Adriana Mar]

I read the the Time article about the study.

[Olivia Mar]

Ah, okay.

[Alona Mar]

Better than doing a TikTok on it, I guess. But no, I have not heard anything about it.

[Olivia Mar]

So they came out with a study that says ChatGPT may be eroding critical thinking skills according to their new study. What does that sound like to you, Ilona?

[Alona Mar]

Goddamn eroding critical thinking skills. That people just aren't able to think for themselves and, you know, when they're faced with a problem, they can't figure out their own answer to it, you know.

[Olivia Mar]

So the study divided the 54 subjects into three groups and asked them to write several SAT essays. One group was able to use OpenAI' Chat GPT. One group used just a Google search engine, and the other used nothing at all. And you know, they. The researchers studied their brain waves, the brain activity, and what they found was that the chat GPT users got lazier with each essay.

[Adriana Mar]

I can't say I'm surprised.

[Olivia Mar]

No, not at all. But why aren't you surprised?

[Adriana Mar]

Well, because it's. It's become almost like a crutch. People aren't using their own brains. They're just waiting for the computers to generate it for them. You know, you're. No, like, at least if you're just Google search engine, you're finding maybe like research and doing other things. Like there's still some connections that need to be made. But like people can just ask Chat GPT to do anything and everything.

[Olivia Mar]

You still have to think critically to Google. Well, like that's kind of how I feel what to Google, how to Google something, where to look, what to be understood, what to get from what you're reading and understanding instead of just using something that like gives you all the answers. And maybe that's because we went to school in a time where we could use Google for research, but we also did use a bit of books because our teachers made us, I think sometimes source books. I don't know if that ever happened to you guys. But like, so there was still that critical thinking element instead of everything just being handed to you, which I think is so spooky that over a study that's just, that's happened, they could already see a cognitive decline. You know, this isn't lifelong use. This is a, this is a, you know, a study that was done within a certain parameters and they already saw damage being done essentially to brains.

[Adriana Mar]

What I will say that I, I liked about the, the research in the article is that this research hasn't been peer review, peer reviewed yet. But they are so scared of what ChatGPT will do to like younger people who are in school and the impact it may have that they wanted to release it sooner to try to prevent like kindergarten gbt like stuff like that.

[Alona Mar]

I've never, I don't even know think I know what Chat GBT is. I've never used that in my life.

[Olivia Mar]

She's free.

[Alona Mar]

I'm free. I know. I have a friend who uses it for everything. What everything? She knows who she is if she's listening. But we were at a wedding. She used it to write a note to the couple on a poster board.

[Olivia Mar]

See, that's so scary.

[Alona Mar]

I was like, what are you doing? She's like, oh, chatgpt just wrote my note. You couldn't have written? Love you guys. You are the best couple ever. I wish you all the happiness yourself. She, she went to Chat GPT to use it and she uses it for like everything really. She's. She's kind of dependent on it, which I, she's such a smart girl as well. I think it's almost like maybe she could say it a better way but like we're becoming a time where everything's maybe nitpicked and you're in. You get insecure about things for sure. Me so like you. Here's a thing that can from what I understand, just can write anything for you, right? And just, like, give it a prompt.

[Olivia Mar]

And it just.

[Alona Mar]

It actually creates pretty good stuff. Again, I don't know what it is.

[Olivia Mar]

And it's. I mean, it's artificial intelligence, right? So you can give it prompts, and it'll. It'll do or find whatever for you write something and you go. You can. It can take that. It knows it because it's intelligent. And you can say back, can you make this a little more direct? Can you make this sound a bit more direct and smart? And then they'll take what they did and they'll do it again. It's like communing with. To these people. I think it feels like a person. But I guess I also wanted to go into this conversation being kind of careful about how we spoke about it, because, as you say, I have friends that. It comes out too, that, like, oh, well, I was chatting with ChatGPT and I was like, you were doing what?

[Adriana Mar]

You were chatting with it?

[Olivia Mar]

You were doing what? Where? To me, I think there's more people out there than we realize. Like, when you find out that way more people are doing cocaine than you, like, realize. You know what I mean? The same thing with Chat GPT. Like, I have friends who, like, either are just like, yo, I was talking to Chat GPT, or I asked Chat GPT and I was like, hey, I just saw a girl's video, actually, of her just, like, walking in a river. And it was like, oh, I asked chatgpt this. Well, I asked the river, and she thinks you're a loser. That should think for herself.

[Alona Mar]

Like, is Chat GPT an app?

[Adriana Mar]

I don't know. If it does have. It must have an app.

[Olivia Mar]

What is it Is.

[Adriana Mar]

It's also, like, a website, too, I believe. I've never done ChatGPT either.

[Olivia Mar]

It must have an app if people. If your friend at a wedding.

[Adriana Mar]

Shortcuts to it and everything.

[Olivia Mar]

It's scary. And I saw. I saw something else that was like, make sure you start eating healthy and getting your exercise now, because the doctors of the future are using Chat GBT right now and aren't gonna know anything.

[Alona Mar]

Yeah, that's very.

[Adriana Mar]

That is scary. I'm so glad I didn't have Chat GPT during school because I know myself, I was sometimes a little lazy of a student. And I think I would.

[Alona Mar]

I'm just kidding.

[Adriana Mar]

I got the department award. Okay. But I think I would have used it too much. Not that I. And I. I don't. I wouldn't have plagiarized. That is a harsh line. But that's another thing we got to talk about is baby plagiarizing.

[Olivia Mar]

I think it's a slippery slope. I see how it becomes a crutch, as you said, you use it once and you had this instant gratification. And so you don't want to, you don't want to mess up. You don't want to seem like you're going to be wrong about something. So you just use it again and again and it becomes more and more and more and you're not using your own brain. And that's like, I think a big worry, maybe it's a bit personal, but like our darling OPA passed away from Alzheimer's, you know, and that is a. That is of the brain and that there's all kinds of studies on as you get older and how active you keep your brain or not. And obviously that's a disease that has nothing to do with it. But as you get older, there's that saying that's like, use it or lose it. You gotta use a muscle or you're gonna lose it. And your brain is the same way. You need to be using it. You need to be thinking. You gotta be doing the hard things, thinking the hard thoughts. Do the Google search. Write things yourself. Like, it's tough and it sucks, but it makes you a better person. I did a lot of writing in college and writing sucks, but you get good at it the more you do it. Just like anything, practice makes perfect. Practice makes perfect.

[Alona Mar]

So chatgpt, is it writing books and stuff?

[Adriana Mar]

Is it? Yes.

[Alona Mar]

Is it writing songs?

[Adriana Mar]

I got. So I put up a. A tick tock. I was like, no one's writing werewolf books anymore. Like good werewolf books. And someone commented, I asked Chat GPT to write books for me and then they'll just read what ChatGPT puts out there.

[Alona Mar]

And is it good?

[Adriana Mar]

They say it's good, but I'm like, you're not supporting authors. And also at that point, because how these systems work, in which they are taking sources from like everywhere, it's most likely stealing other authors work to then create this story.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, I can see the draw to that. Because like, you are often like, no, there's no integrity in werewolf book writing anymore. And you're so funny about it. But you mean that because you like certain tropes, you like it to be written to a certain level and whatever. So I imagine somebody could turn to, you know, any kind of AI artificial intelligence and say, write me a werewolf love story. That includes this and this and these tropes, like, and they could create the perfect story for you. But like, yeah, you're not supporting humans. The people around us. Like, huh.

[Alona Mar]

You know what's interesting? AI on TikTok. I have to say, some AI is pretty impressive.

[Adriana Mar]

Are you talking about the fan drawings or the AI drawings of.

[Alona Mar]

Of, like, they'll, like, take you into the world. Like, genuinely. There's, like, you can watch almost scenes from Throne of Glass made of. Out of AI. And then there's, like, recently, these, like, very sexual country songs. Have you heard those?

[Olivia Mar]

The, like, comedy country.

[Alona Mar]

The comedy country songs, but they sound like country because they take. Isn't it. They take all this. All. Every country song that's ever been written, and they. They have that to their disposal and they make songs that just sound like. Right. Like it.

[Olivia Mar]

Like, exactly like it. It's crazy.

[Alona Mar]

I mean, we.

[Olivia Mar]

I've even seen weird AI videos made of you. Like, yeah, I know. We don't. It's scary. Our aunt sent it to me, actually, and they were like, what in the AI and they take a video picture of you and they're able to. Like. I think it used to be. It used to be called deep fake, right?

[Alona Mar]

Yeah, it's still a deep fake.

[Olivia Mar]

It's a deep fake. And it was you saying, like, I've.

[Alona Mar]

Decided to not be playing rugby.

[Olivia Mar]

Like, but it's, like, clearly robotic. But it, like, it's scary. I'll send it to you.

[Alona Mar]

But it has.

[Adriana Mar]

The more someone is in media, the better these deepfakes can become. Like, you'll see them, like, walking down the street where it won't be that obvious and that robotic, where you're actually looking at it and you're like, is that a real video? Like, I've had to catch myself on so many different videos to be like, oh, I don't think this is real.

[Alona Mar]

Right?

[Adriana Mar]

It's so scary accurate.

[Olivia Mar]

People have sent me viral, like, in the street interviews. You know how the. But if they're now made of AI.

[Adriana Mar]

Oh, yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

And they're scary. And a friend sent it to me. But I don't want to be like, you idiot. That's AI because it took me a second too. Like, it's becoming undetectable. And that is horrific to me. I think we all just need to touch some grass. Like, feel the earth beneath your feet. Start. Be like, Alona don't Even know if ChatGPT is an app. She's really painting with all the colors of the wind. Apparently, that's our girl. She's so in touch with nature. But I think another point where, once again, I don't want to be too harsh, but I think we would. We should touch some grass here, is that people have relationships with their AI chatbots. They have full blown relationships. Like one guy just proposed to his and it said yes while being in.

[Adriana Mar]

An actual relationship in real life.

[Olivia Mar]

Right. Spooky.

[Alona Mar]

I think I have seen that. I saw a tick tock on it, but like, it seems so fake. But you're telling me there are, you're telling me there are people who are. What. What are they doing with these? So they're. How are they. Because they can ask these things questions and they will answer as if they're a woman or a man.

[Olivia Mar]

Not even just questions though. They have full blown dialogue now, like back and forth. They basically can train their AI chatbot to be the perfect person for them and respond to them in like a more doting way, if that's what they like or what? Like they have these, they. They use it as companionship. They're not turning to the people around them. They're turning to this thing that they've trained to be exactly what they want. It's so dystopian and it's happening around us.

[Alona Mar]

I imagine they can, The AIs can do everything. I'm scared.

[Adriana Mar]

Do you guys remember that like viral tweet from like seven years ago that it was like, in 2025, women are gonna have sex with robots and everyone's like, next year, you know, like, yeah, it feels like we've actually had it. Like people are having sex with robots, but it's mentally.

[Alona Mar]

Right.

[Adriana Mar]

Yeah, they're having text, like phone sex, essentially.

[Olivia Mar]

There's a whole Reddit thread of. It's called like, My AI.

[Adriana Mar]

My.

[Olivia Mar]

My boyfriend is AI. It's. It's women and people on there talking, like, sending screenshots of how their AI cares for them and they check up on them and they just have this full blown. You know, they ask him to make images of them in a house together and what that would look like. And look.

[Alona Mar]

Okay, you know what? As you're saying this, I'm actually kind of seeing the thrill of it.

[Olivia Mar]

No, because.

[Alona Mar]

It sounds like you can create what you want. I'm not actually, I'm not actually into it, but it's interesting. We talk a lot about how we're. We have trouble finding people who. Men who we can have conversation with, who we think deep with. So then I can, I wouldn't do it, but I could see the thrill of women who, well, frick, I can't find this in real life. Here I can create something. And I mean, that's why we escape into books. In what way? You know, we escape into books to have these men who are what we deem as, you know, viable and somebody we would like. So.

[Olivia Mar]

But those, even those books, the men in books, were written by a human, though. That was of somebody's brain. Like, that was. Somebody can't.

[Alona Mar]

It was written by a human. But yet, you know, you read books now where. I've been reading a couple books where I'm like, that was definitely written by a woman. Like, some of those men, I'm like.

[Adriana Mar]

Okay, he doesn't exist.

[Alona Mar]

That's not. I'm sorry, ma' am, that isn't right.

[Olivia Mar]

I see these, like, relationships as addictive, for sure. So I wonder if it's almost like the new porn addiction that you keep it very quiet, but it's a crutch. It's something you lean on, you have this relationship with it. You can't function without it. Like, you know, people are in relationships and then have these like, AI partners.

[Adriana Mar]

And I think that's cheating.

[Olivia Mar]

I think that's cheating as well.

[Adriana Mar]

Emotionally cheating. Put that time into your partner. What are you doing? And it's just, you know, like, I do feel sympathy for people who are like, you know, there's nothing out there. So they turn to a chat bot. But it's also like, there's so many lonely people out there that I'm like, there should be enough people in the world to be able to make these connections.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah. There's how many billions of people in the world? Eight, I think now, like, chat to someone.

[Adriana Mar]

People should try shifting again. That feels like a better option than.

[Alona Mar]

What is it?

[Olivia Mar]

What is it?

[Alona Mar]

Shifting.

[Olivia Mar]

Adriana, you need to explain shifting. That is so Internet. That is so deep cut Internet.

[Adriana Mar]

Shifting is when people. I still don't know if it's like real or not, but people shift into a different universe in their mind. So they will, like, lay out a map of how they're going to shift. And so. And then they write out this whole reality of what it's going to be. They're going to like, I'm going to enter Hogwarts and I'm going to be a sixth year and I'm going to be in Ravenco and it's. And then they're like. And then I'm. I'm engaged to a Weasley twin and they're convinced and they. You see videos of them they're like, I just woke up after spending seven years in the Hogwarts universe. And so I'm like, I'd rather you do that than this.

[Olivia Mar]

That's using your own imagination, though. Good on you.

[Adriana Mar]

For real.

[Alona Mar]

I actually think I can partially shift. Then you guys know those stories I have in my head?

[Olivia Mar]

Alona writes books in her head to sleep. And she literally has deep plot lines. Like, literally get a publisher on the phone if you want someone to. Like, she has deep stories, like fantasy novels. Fantasy. Oh, we get into it.

[Alona Mar]

I got deep.

[Adriana Mar]

I haven't heard an update in a while.

[Olivia Mar]

No, actually, I was. I was wondering about those two characters in that one. I was.

[Alona Mar]

My Fae one. My Fae one. That's a good one. Okay, I have a werewolf story. That one's pretty fire. Maybe one day I'll just sit in front of this and tell you all my stories. I have a Fae story. That one's really good. That's really good. That one's really good. That one has a lot of, like, one lover that we go to, another lover. And then she's a badass. And she's actually. Her father is like the God of darkness. Anyway, and then I have a story about. In my head. What else do I listen to? Oh, Shadowhunter 1.

[Olivia Mar]

You have an Avatar 1, right?

[Alona Mar]

I have an avatar. Well, that's. It's not really an avatar one, but it's when she. It's kind of like a 100 avatar. She goes to another planet.

[Olivia Mar]

By 100, she means the CW's, the 100. One of the greatest, the hundreds of, you know, TV ever created.

[Adriana Mar]

Beautiful.

[Olivia Mar]

And I gotta say, Alona sat. I think we met. We must have had dinner and then, like, drink. So we were all sat, and Alona let us in on these plot lines and these characters in these stories. I was genuinely giggling, kicking my feet, being like. And then what happens? Like, it's good.

[Alona Mar]

I. I should get a ghostwriter on the phone because I got some. But. But again, I'm almost. I'm almost Chat gbt because I'm taking ideas from all these books.

[Olivia Mar]

Right?

[Alona Mar]

You know, but that's how the human brain works. Okay, well, let's make a pact that we won't use Chat GBT right here.

[Olivia Mar]

You're like, but Gemini is on the. Do we have a message to anyone who maybe is noticing that they are relying on. On, you know, AI a bit too much? Is there any parting words we want to say? Like, what, do you want to sing them a song? Like, how do we break up with.

[Adriana Mar]

Your AI boyfriend, girlfriend first. Take that time to heal. But I think you need, that's the first step.

[Alona Mar]

I don't have much. I would just say, you know, get out there and remember you didn't go to school for how many years to let something write something for you. You got this. Girls and people.

[Olivia Mar]

I think I want to say, like, being human and being alive is messy and it's awkward, but that's the point of being alive, is to experience. And you got to let yourself do that. And if you're hiding behind a prompt or a computer in that way, you're not living life to the fullest. So I beg everyone to touch some grass.

[Alona Mar]

All right, well, let's go on to some other kind of divisive topics. We're gonna head into our Coffee Clash, which is where we're just gonna go over what's percolating in pop culture today. Sabrina Carpenter released an album cover that caused some controversy.

[Olivia Mar]

Yes. Did you guys see the, the first, the first cover because she's not released a new one.

[Adriana Mar]

Apparently an alternate God approved cover for Man's Best Friend, which is funny of her.

[Olivia Mar]

I think she's, I think she's laughing at everyone.

[Alona Mar]

First off, what did you think of the first cover?

[Olivia Mar]

I, I, I didn't mind it. I thought it was hot.

[Alona Mar]

The album's called Man's Best Friend.

[Olivia Mar]

Yes.

[Alona Mar]

It's her on her knees and a man is pulling her hair as if she's a dog and her hair's a leash.

[Olivia Mar]

Mm.

[Adriana Mar]

Not my favorite.

[Alona Mar]

Okay.

[Adriana Mar]

Not my favorite. I, but it's not like I'm not like all up in arms about it, but I do wish maybe she went into another direction.

[Olivia Mar]

So can you tell us why people are mad or why you're mad? Like, what about it?

[Adriana Mar]

Well, like, Man's Best Friend. Man's Best friend is a dog.

[Olivia Mar]

Essentially a bitch female dog. Okay, sorry. She's a bitch.

[Adriana Mar]

Just to like, have a woman on her knees in front of a man being dragged by her hair. It's like degrading to women to put them down, like, comparative to a dog and like, the man's the master, like, that kind of comparison.

[Alona Mar]

And then not my favorite. Doesn't she have, but doesn't she have, like, all songs degrading men in a way?

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Alona Mar]

Like Manchild.

[Olivia Mar]

She also, like, kills men in several of her music videos. Right. And so I'm saying, like, it both, it all exists.

[Adriana Mar]

I do love her takes and, like, her artistry and it's so fun. And so I think that this is another fun thing. And, you know, she's always testing the boundaries, which is why I'm not like, I'm never listening to her again. But if I have to choose between this cover, the old cover and the alternate cover, I'm choosing the alternate cover.

[Olivia Mar]

Really? I thought it was kind of. I don't know, I thought it. I did see a comparison drawn online that was like, look at Madonna. Madonna dad talks about all the time. Madonna knew where the line was and she would just put her toe right over it. So Madonna was always spoken about and like, is that not what Sabrina's doing here? She found the line. She found where people would be a little bit mad. She put her toe over it and it's like you're talking about it. It is, you know, you know, people call it degrading. People call whatever I think it was. It's art, though. It's her thoughts, it's her emotions. It's what she's putting out into the world. As a rather straight woman. I thought it was cool. I thought it was hot. I was like, okay, good, Sabrina, do your thing. But because I do love her music.

[Alona Mar]

And I love that.

[Adriana Mar]

I'll be listening.

[Olivia Mar]

I'll. I'll be tuned in. But I don't know, I didn't really understand why everyone is up. I can hear. I could see why people are up in arms for feminism, for women everywhere. But at the same time, it's her art.

[Alona Mar]

What are your thoughts, what are your thoughts on the man child song? I, I mean, so she calls, she calls men stupid, slow, useless, useless, incompetent. Does she do that as well?

[Olivia Mar]

Probably. I think it's. It's assumed.

[Alona Mar]

Yeah. So I, I think that's. That was interesting as well. Like I saw some people who were like, if a man wrote a song like this about a woman, ba ba ba ba ba. I thought it was catchy. I danced to it many a time. But what, what do you think about that? Like calling. Is there like a double standard? Is it okay to call men that? I mean, I feel some, in some ways, some of that.

[Olivia Mar]

But I have a follow up question. Are they acting stupid and slow though? Are they being, you know, are they being not. I don't know, are they not showing up in the best way they can? Like, is that not speaking from experience?

[Adriana Mar]

If that's how she feels and is she talking about all men or just men who've done this to her?

[Olivia Mar]

Yes, excellent questioning.

[Alona Mar]

Good point. Because then, because that is a thing men then say all men.

[Olivia Mar]

And she also, she said it in a song before. She said, please, please, please don't embarrass me. Okay, so does someone embarrass her? And so now she's gonna come out here and say, you know, stupid slow. I thought the song was very catchy. When it first played. People were like, I've been listening. When it came out, people were like, oh, oh no. Sabrina didn't make the song this summer. I think it's awesome. Like cuz they were expecting another espresso. I, I, I thought it was so catchy. And then I finally watched the music video which people also had issue with like they, people also didn't like the music video. I thought the music video was so fun. It was all the outfits, all the scenes, all the whatever it was, it was moving and grooving. I thought it was really fun. So is it not all satire? Is she not starting a conversation?

[Adriana Mar]

Is this not political commentary?

[Alona Mar]

Okay, maybe. I just think she's got some good beats. And I mean, I think what it is though is like all these girls can relate to this stuff. Going back to the AI thing.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alona Mar]

The girls who are like not finding like that's what's happening in real life is these men who are acting this sort of way. So she's writing a song for all us girls who feel this very interesting. You know what also I think is out there that people weren't liking? That I really love is Lola Young's One Thing.

[Olivia Mar]

You love that song? Why don't I like that song?

[Alona Mar]

I love it, I love it. It's a song about Lola Young is saying like tonight all I want from you is one thing, sexual intercourse. But you know, she doesn't want your number. Don't care if you have another, whatever it is. But she, that's what she wants. And it's like a woman expressing herself, her sexuality, like in a very blatant way. Like, you know, I think women sometimes are told, you know, you need to have a relationship, settle down, you can't have more than so many lovers. What about your body count? And I like that she was just like, no, that's, that's what I want right now. I want to do this, I want to do that and then be done with it. And I think it's such a maybe a take that we're not used to from women and people were, some people were not happy about it. I remember seeing what, I don't know, they didn't like it. Where it's almost like Sabrina's doing the Same thing. But it was kind of the conversation of Sabrina being a petite blonde, very classically beautiful. Lola Young being a thicker, extremely gorgeous. But the way that she presents herself is very like. She wears different clothes, she has a different hairstyle.

[Adriana Mar]

Alternative.

[Alona Mar]

Alternative. There you go.

[Olivia Mar]

That's the word.

[Alona Mar]

So I love that song. I love that she's taking control of that, her. Her narrative sexuality. Thoughts?

[Olivia Mar]

I don't see the problem with it. All men sing about is one night stands and. And bumping and grinding and, you know, like, so go get your rocks off, girl. Go ahead and sing about that.

[Adriana Mar]

And if you don't like listening to like vulgar music or explicit music, don't listen to it.

[Olivia Mar]

Hey, turn it off.

[Alona Mar]

Hey.

[Adriana Mar]

It's just not for you, right? That there's other songs out there. There's so many other things I think that is empowering.

[Olivia Mar]

That's a woman saying what she wants and going and getting it.

[Adriana Mar]

And again, it's art. It's a form of art.

[Olivia Mar]

Clearly alone. It resonates with Alona.

[Alona Mar]

No, no, I think it's a. It's a jammin beat.

[Olivia Mar]

It's a jamming beat.

[Alona Mar]

It's a solid beat. And I think it's just like. I don't know, I love the confidence in it. I love that she's like, it's not about love. It's not about this. It's about just what she wants for one night and going to get it.

[Olivia Mar]

I think it's still human connection.

[Alona Mar]

Yeah. I thought it was really refreshing.

[Olivia Mar]

No AI boyfriend. Is that the one where she's like, break the bed and then the sofa I want to pull you closer Everybody.

[Alona Mar]

Wants to know you But I only want one thing. She doesn't even want you anyway. I could sing the whole song, but I think. I think it's really great. And I think. I like that. It's also somebody who, like we said alternative singing it like, it's. She is gorgeous in her own way and that's what she wants.

[Olivia Mar]

Is she the artist that somebody made a TikTok where her music style is quite close to Remy Wolf. There's a couple kind of the same kind of vibe where someone was like, Remy, quickly.

[Adriana Mar]

She's.

[Olivia Mar]

She's rifling around in your purse like, hurry. She's like that same sound, right?

[Alona Mar]

I like that sound though, because I'm a big Remy Wolf fan and I.

[Adriana Mar]

Like, oh, she's the same producer as Remy. So that's a huge thing. When you have producers, sometimes you're gonna have similar sounds.

[Olivia Mar]

Okay.

[Adriana Mar]

It might Just be the genre. Yeah, I guess. But I need Remy to also get some more attention.

[Olivia Mar]

Right?

[Alona Mar]

She's great.

[Olivia Mar]

Remy. Remy, Stay clocked in, girl.

[Adriana Mar]

You know who also needs attention? Ms. Zara Larson. Love that girl down. She's just released some bangers. Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

Pretty Ugly and Midnight released.

[Adriana Mar]

I'm saying. Okay, as someone who lived in Sweden during the lush life, as someone who.

[Olivia Mar]

Went to school in 2014, 2015, an icon.

[Adriana Mar]

Love that girl.

[Olivia Mar]

You do win. You were in Sweden.

[Alona Mar]

What are our thoughts on Hymer coming out with a new album? And I just saw, I think they have, like three hotties in it. Like, that's what they get to ch. They chose a couple hotties to be in their video. It's all over. Music video with Will Poulter, who Olivia was. I remember is I am in your walls. He's the guy who was in that.

[Adriana Mar]

The maze runners.

[Alona Mar]

No, not to me. He's not maze runners. He's Meet the No. What is he Meet the No, no, no.

[Adriana Mar]

The. When they're going to Mexico.

[Alona Mar]

When they're going to Mexico.

[Adriana Mar]

You guys are getting paid for this.

[Olivia Mar]

You're getting 30 grand.

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I'm getting a 30,000.

[Alona Mar]

You guys are getting paid. Yeah, he's. You gotta get paid for this guy. But then he really, really matured and really got handsome.

[Olivia Mar]

He buffed up for Marvel as well. He got in, like, stupid shape. He probably was already in shape, but everyone always calls it the Marvel glow up or whatever. It's a good looking dude.

[Alona Mar]

I never think about this, but if you could have, like, if say we did like a music video or something. Who. If you could choose a guy. Because I remember one time, like Mindy Cowling saying, like, when she was doing her show, people were like, that character would never get that guy. She was like, I'm directing this. I'm writing this. I'm going to choose whoever the frick I want to make out with.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Alona Mar]

Who would you choose as your music video boyfriend of choice? You know it. Just say it. You both know it. The way you look, the way you're looking.

[Adriana Mar]

Adriana, we just talked about this last episode. What if I could get the guy from sweet home Alabama?

[Alona Mar]

That older guy right now?

[Adriana Mar]

Well, I'm talking put me in sweet home Alabama that.

[Alona Mar]

That time.

[Olivia Mar]

Okay, okay.

[Alona Mar]

He's looking a little different now, but I hear you.

[Olivia Mar]

Alona.

[Alona Mar]

I enjoy Theo James back to Divergent. Oh, I'd put him in. In my music video.

[Olivia Mar]

Mine would be. It's basic, but what? Henry Cavill. Cavill. But specifically from The Witcher. No, I'm just kidding. Any version of him.

[Alona Mar]

Right? Right. I also enjoy Tom Hardy.

[Adriana Mar]

Maybe in there.

[Alona Mar]

I don't know.

[Olivia Mar]

I'm also good ones. I'm an Aaron Taylor Johnson girly. I just watched his new. That movie that he was in. Like Craven. Not a great movie.

[Alona Mar]

Oh, really?

[Olivia Mar]

But he lives good as hell.

[Alona Mar]

All right.

[Olivia Mar]

Literally. Why I watched it.

[Adriana Mar]

I don't know his name. Atterbanks. Livy, what's his name? You know who I'm talking about.

[Olivia Mar]

Which one? Jj.

[Adriana Mar]

Jj and then the other one.

[Olivia Mar]

What's his name? The blonde evil brother. I don't know.

[Adriana Mar]

I be liking TikTok edits.

[Alona Mar]

Oh, guys, what is his name? Chase Stokes.

[Olivia Mar]

No, not Chase Stokes. That's the main guy. That's John B. Rafe.

[Adriana Mar]

No, Rafe is. I don't.

[Olivia Mar]

Rafe is the brother. Yeah, but what's that actor's name? What's that actor's name?

[Adriana Mar]

Heavy on him. Heavy on him.

[Olivia Mar]

She's giving me many a TikTok edit of him.

[Adriana Mar]

Drew Starkey.

[Olivia Mar]

Drew Starkey. And I will say the editors go crazy on clips of him. For real.

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[Alona Mar]

Speaking of hotties, I'm not keeping up, but you guys are watching Love Island.

[Adriana Mar]

I'm watching uk.

[Olivia Mar]

I'm watching USA for the first time in my life. I've been a UK girly for like five years and now I'm locked in. Think about it. We started watching before the Pandemic Drive.

[Adriana Mar]

We started watching, I think 2018.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Adriana Mar]

So more than five years.

[Olivia Mar]

Whoa. So it's my first year switching to USA because last. Last summer it had unbelievable reception. Like they finally kind of figured out what they were doing over here in the US and last season was a hit. And then we were so busy when USA started that I wasn't up on it. But then I just keep hearing amazing things and I was like, okay, fine, I'm going to lock in on it because I want to be able to watch it nightly, which we can't do with UK because they don't bring it to the streaming platforms here on until a couple of days later. So Adriana's being a purist, though.

[Adriana Mar]

She's good this season, is it. I am giggling and kicking my feet, like, so much fighting. It is just fun because, like, last season, I don't even think I finished last season. But, like, I'm loving it.

[Alona Mar]

Like, I. I think that even UK people are watching American Love island though, too.

[Olivia Mar]

There's a British guy on it.

[Alona Mar]

There's. Well, that's not that. No, it's just like Molly Mae was watching American Love island get out. Yeah, I saw a video of her doing that. I only have watched a couple episodes with Olivia. I've just kind of come in in the middle of season. But I have watched the TikTok clips like Huda's I'm a mommy moment. Look, I will say that was a weird way to say that.

[Olivia Mar]

You need to explain that to the masses. People listening that don't watch Love Island. Actually, should we explain the concept of Love Island? Like people. People know, right?

[Adriana Mar]

People should know.

[Alona Mar]

People should know.

[Olivia Mar]

Good. It's, I think we want to say is it still surprises people. It is six nights a week. It is ever five nights. It's every single night of the week. You are in the. You're in that villa with these people. You are essentially playing God. You know, you vote on things as it's happening. Just need to put that out there.

[Adriana Mar]

There's like six guys, six girls. Everyone is coupling up with one another. And then there are recoupling ceremonies where you can then couple up with someone who suits you better. But then there's bombshells that come in hot people who are going to mix things up. So then it gets like seven girls, like six boys. And so someone's going to get dumped from the island because they're not in a couple. And then the public starts voting for their favorite couples and they dumped.

[Olivia Mar]

It's a study in human relationships and how human. The human brain works because it's. It's a game and you want to be coupled up to get, like, the public's favor to make it to the end. But also then you do start developing feelings for people and their sexual chemistry, and it's. It's unbelievable. And I know people scoff at dating shows and, you know, maybe I used to be one of those people. I never, you know, I never really watched any of the Bachelor Nation or anything, like, too hot to handle.

[Alona Mar]

Nothing like that.

[Olivia Mar]

But Love island back in 2018, especially UK because it was fun listening to the accents and hearing about, like, just kind of the cultural differences and the way the men were friends with each other and the way that, you know, that it. It's. It's a beautiful summertime party every summer. So, Ilona, can you please explain the I'm a mommy moment from Love island this year?

[Alona Mar]

If y' all haven't seen this, it's that one of the contestants has a daughter, and she's telling one of the her male friends in there that she has a daughter for the first time. And she goes, I have a secret to tell you. I'm a mommy. I'm a mommy.

[Olivia Mar]

Mommy.

[Alona Mar]

I'm a mom.

[Olivia Mar]

Mamacita.

[Alona Mar]

No, I'm a mommy.

[Olivia Mar]

A mom of what? A dog.

[Alona Mar]

I have a daughter.

[Olivia Mar]

Like, in real life? Yeah, like a daughter. Like a real baby.

[Alona Mar]

Yeah, like a human child. And he's like, mommy, mamacita. And she's like, no, I'm. I'm a mom. I'm a mommy. Like a mom of what? A dog.

[Adriana Mar]

Okay.

[Alona Mar]

She's trying to tell him she has a daughter. She should have just said, I have a daughter or I'm a mom. The way she said mommy, I was like, I was confused as well, but I think he was also a little slow to it. But. So it was a whole thing for her about, like, you know, going into Love Island. There was a lot of discussion on it, I guess, about her going in with having a child. And my thought is, like, honestly, she's kind of probably treating this like a job, like she's going there to kind of make a better life for herself and her daughter by becoming an influencer. I mean, we saw what last season did. She's kind of doing this for the long game, I imagine, and to find love.

[Olivia Mar]

Alona, it's a show about finding love.

[Alona Mar]

Right.

[Olivia Mar]

With a prize reward.

[Alona Mar]

The end.

[Olivia Mar]

Yes. I'm not far enough in. But is she also that other super viral moment right now, the. My dream date.

[Alona Mar]

Yes.

[Olivia Mar]

Is that her? So she is just made for tv.

[Alona Mar]

What was the date? It was just like, sitting down, like, on the beach. My dream date. Cute. And he knows that.

[Adriana Mar]

I love quoting that.

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, my dream date alone. And I went and ate pizza the other night, and I posted about it, and I'll. Joni goes. My dream date.

[Alona Mar]

Cute.

[Adriana Mar]

And you know that.

[Alona Mar]

And you know that.

[Olivia Mar]

So it's fun. But that's an insane way to go about telling somebody that you're a mother. But I think absolutely she should be on the show, though.

[Alona Mar]

I, I.

[Olivia Mar]

People thinking that, oh, that's weird that she's a mom. I'm like, hey, people be having kids.

[Adriana Mar]

I think it is something that you need to be so honest and like quick with when you go on Love island to be like, I am a mother. Because you can make connections in there so fast. And that is something that people need to be like incredibly aware of if they're entering in a relationship with you because are they ready to have a responsibility of like this potentially going further and then having to be a parental role.

[Alona Mar]

She did tell the guy though that she's with that she's got a daughter. What did she say?

[Adriana Mar]

I'm not talking about her.

[Olivia Mar]

Who are you talking about?

[Adriana Mar]

Me in general, because there's some love islanders who in the past haven't until like several days in. And I'm like really been through a recoupling. And now you're just saying this.

[Olivia Mar]

Other islanders have had kids.

[Adriana Mar]

Yeah, well, in other countries and stuff.

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, like Australia and stuff like that, which I hear is also an amazing franchise. She did tell the, the boy that she is coupled up with at that point, but a couple days in she just wanted to make sure that it was like for real and that it wasn't love bombing her or whatnot. Which I do see. It's a, it's a strong open to be like, I am a mom. But then it's like, are you starting things under false pretenses, you know, or is, you know, what do you think?

[Alona Mar]

I think she's still a person looking for love. Like is it fully defined by being a mother? I think, I mean, I don't know. I'm not. I don't have no kids. But I do think like she did, she did disclose it, but I think, I don't know. It's only right for you to find that time to tell them and also gauge the person.

[Olivia Mar]

Absolutely.

[Alona Mar]

One thing I did, there is a new girl who just came on and again, I'm not really watching it, but I see it all on TikTok. I feel like I'm watching it. She's this 21 year old. She came in with a lot of like work done, a lot of filler over time and people are absolutely like being the biggest bullies on TikTok ever, like running, just everything. They are really being so, so vile. And I mean I'm. I would. She's going in there not knowing the whole us whole world is like TikTok is blowing up being negative towards her. Oh my gosh. I feel for her when she comes out.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, that's horrific because it's like, you know, no matter what somebody looks like, like they. No matter what they've had done, they did it for a reason. And that reason was maybe they didn't like the way they look, which is a very sad place to be in. Or they just wanted to, which is totally fine as well. But to. Yeah. I think the scariest part is that it's all happening without her knowing. The commentary that is being made about the way a woman looks. Right. Like, the men are fine, but people don't talk about their looks as much. You know what I mean?

[Alona Mar]

Those guys are hotties. Some of them are hotties. I will say, from what I have seen, she is 20. She has had a lot of work done.

[Olivia Mar]

So that's why people are talking. You think a lot is that she's so young.

[Alona Mar]

She's so young and she's so different. And I think it is like, it just sucks because you can't imagine what pressure she probably felt in her real world to feel like she needed to change so much.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Alona Mar]

Like that, I think is what's so tough about that, is that she felt even though she's a gorgeous girl beforehand, what pressure she was feeling to. To have to change, you know, or.

[Olivia Mar]

She wasn't and she just wanted to. But it's like, ah. Because knowing that, like, she did make those decisions for herself. But people are going to comment it on it anyway.

[Adriana Mar]

Love island has been putting out warnings, or just not warnings, but just reminders to be careful of what you're posting online. Islanders are real people and they're going to get out of the villa and see it.

[Alona Mar]

Right.

[Adriana Mar]

Great. Time to remind people again, don't bully people.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, right.

[Adriana Mar]

Rightful what you say. Like, they're gonna come out and see this. And Love island has a history of people committing suicide. And it is because so much of the online bullying, it's like, just don't.

[Olivia Mar]

Comment on the way people look. How about that?

[Adriana Mar]

Period?

[Olivia Mar]

Unless you're telling them they look good. But even then, like, you know, and you see the thing about, like, even, like children when you're raising, like, daughters, like, don't tell them, oh, you're so pretty. Oh, you're so. It's like, tell them they're smart. Tell them they're so brave. Tell them they're whatever.

[Alona Mar]

Like, I hear you. But I think that's also hard. What to just be like, saying all that. Because beauty is something we notice first.

[Olivia Mar]

True.

[Alona Mar]

We notice how somebody looks first when we. Before somebody's walking to you what are you noticing? Their face, everything like that. So I think that that is something. But in our deep minds, we are looking at them, seeing them, you know, being perceived Online. Recently I was, I just posted a video about a tweet that somebody. It was a tweet of people online. 20 million people were debating whether or not I was overweight my body. Like that's what people like see, you know, they're gonna constantly be talking about body, bodies, how you look. It's like figuring out how to find your own self worth and your own like beauty within. Because it's never going to change. Beauty has always been something that's been discussed for thousands of years. And maybe I'm going wrong on this, but like, I hate that it's like, oh, we can't be talking about that because it is. We connect over beauty. We are attracted to beauty. It's something that's so at the forefront. So I don't know, I just think there's a balance because I feels unrealistic realistic to not comment. And Ajana maybe have more to say. I don't know.

[Adriana Mar]

I think you kind of nailed it. I. I think of like myself growing up and like, I think we all received a variety of like physical compliments, but then also like deeper talking about our mind, stuff like that. And I honestly think that it takes kind of both to become like, you know, confident in yourself, you know, because although you are so much more than like how you appear, we are still human. And our society puts so much pressure on that that like, it is good to have confidence in that and to be told, you are so beautiful.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah.

[Adriana Mar]

As well as being like, you are so smart. And I think our parents did a great job and the people that surround us of saying both, you know, to both of you, even to this day, I'll be like, you look good as fuck in that. And then later, Olivia, you'll have me read something and I'm like, oh, you had a great tone. Like you wrote this really well, you know, like. Or like Alona, like you had such a great statement in this video that you made. Like, so it's both. It's hand in hand.

[Alona Mar]

Yeah. I like to be told I'm pretty please personally, really enjoy it. Personally, I really love what people can tell me I'm hot. So I think that it's a balance. Right. Because I grew up as somebody who was never told that.

[Adriana Mar]

Who.

[Alona Mar]

I never felt that way, you know, I never felt too beautiful or never felt too attractive. So I do like that it's like, you know, love language. I think I do enjoy words of affirmation at times, but that I know now that's not all I have about me. I'm smart, I'm. I'm funny, but, like, I sometimes need a little bit of that. A little bit of that affirmation, you know, for this girl up here, for the. For the bigger middle schooler up here. Bullying is never okay online. You don't know what they're going through, how they're gonna feel and what it feels like, because I have been on the other side of it and it's never good and never feels good to see that stuff. So I'm thinking about all those love islanders who are coming out of the villa. And also when you're watching Love island, remember it's kind of a distorted view as well of things.

[Adriana Mar]

Absolutely. The editors are piecing things together. You're not seeing the full story. So be nice to all the islanders and everyone else online. If I see one more hate comment about Alona, that'll keep happening.

[Alona Mar]

But thank you.

[Adriana Mar]

It's going down.

[Alona Mar]

And just remember, you're strong, you're brave, and I think you're pretty.

[Adriana Mar]

Should we move on to some tea time, ladies? You're just in Cannes, France. Is it Can.

[Alona Mar]

Can?

[Olivia Mar]

Apparently. Apparently it's Cannes. Cannes, okay.

[Adriana Mar]

Cannes.

[Olivia Mar]

We asked a French guy who wasn't there for Cannes, but he's French, and we asked him. He was there on a honeymoon with his American wife, and he said it's. It's. It's Ken. So, you know, without the S, but not con. It's Can.

[Adriana Mar]

Right?

[Alona Mar]

Very beautiful, beautiful place. We gotta go back.

[Adriana Mar]

You were there for Cannes Lions Fest, right?

[Alona Mar]

Yes. So it is massive festival. There's literally like YouTube as a house, meta as a house, Google, blah, blah, blah. And it's like this Coachella of, like, advertising and all sorts of stuff. Americans just descend on it. Yeah, Famous people are everywhere. I was there to go on some panels. Libby came on a panel with me as well and with for Wave, our entertainment company that does this podcast. Thanks, Wave. So it was really. It was interesting to kind of be in the likes of that and to the hustle and bustle. We were invited to so many things. So much was happening and it was cool, but it was definitely a lot. So we took some time for ourselves, went to a beach club.

[Olivia Mar]

We sat on the beach for a little bit amid various brandings and panels. And I mean, I. I don't know because I'm not fully in that world, but a Lot of the panels all sounded the same to me. Right? Oh, yeah, right. It was talking about gun to my head, I could not tell you what a KPI is. And I heard that term keeper performance indicator. Yeah, okay.

[Adriana Mar]

Is that it?

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, mom, I'm coming home for dinner. I'm making it key performance indicator or, like, you know, storytelling and marketing and all this stuff. So it was cool. I think alona brought a lot of fun energy. She shook it up a little bit where she could. She was fun, you know, her relatable, authentic self. They love that term authentic.

[Alona Mar]

I even turn it up a little bit on those panels because I feel for those motherfuckers in the crowd.

[Olivia Mar]

They're in France, so, like, they're okay, but, like, they're listening to.

[Alona Mar]

But they're barely there. They're sitting. They're watching. These people speak for, like, hours and hours and hours a day. And these guys are so, like, well rehearsed saying the most politically ba ba, ba, ba ba things. And I'm like, I don't know how they do it.

[Olivia Mar]

It's just like a corporate networking orgy. Like, you are there to shake hands, listen, like, level up. It was cool because it's a lot of people kept thinking we said we were going to can, that we're going for the film festival, which happens a couple of weeks before.

[Alona Mar]

Is.

[Olivia Mar]

This is different, people. This is the marketing and advertising mecca of the world. After one of alona's panels, I ran into a girl who was working, like, the media booth, and she was like, there's a guy here who says he knows you from New York. I was like, huh? He was like, yeah. He said that he does your podcast. And it was the guy that I looked in the eyes of and said, I'm gonna grab your bush when I say this.

[Adriana Mar]

At last week's recording, and there's nothing wrong with the bush.

[Alona Mar]

There's nothing wrong with it.

[Olivia Mar]

I'm gonna grab your bushes when I say this. He was there. We hugged. We had this beautiful reunion. We laughed about bushes together once again. But he was in Cannes, so you run into all kinds of people. Truly. Yeah. Meant to be. Who is it cool to connect with anyone in particular? Alona.

[Alona Mar]

I got to see Meg rapinoe, Sue bird. That was really cool. We. We partied in a club with them. Candace Parker was there.

[Adriana Mar]

We.

[Alona Mar]

There's literally so many people all around. Gab union, who's really cool. She's part of my company range, who I'm signed with. So got to meet her. I got to meet John Chu. He was at a table with me. I was at a dinner and I was like, hey, I'm a rugby player. He's like, oh, yeah, I know who you are. I was like, thank you so much. And so we talked a little bit about his editing process. In Wicked. There's literally like, you just kind of go to meet people and see and be seen. A lot is happening. But it was cool. We did one night clubbing. There were sparklers everywhere. I was spooked. I was looking for every exit. I even at one point, didn't I lean down to you and rann. And I was, if anything happens, this is the exit we're going to. We're hopping this barrier. So I had to plan a whole exit out. But it was cool. We were definitely packed in there. But we definitely have to go back to the south of France for another time when it's like not a whole festival. And I think I want to do that. Like, just go to chill, have my spritzes on the beach. Not have to worry about panels and stuff.

[Olivia Mar]

Right. Are you going to be able to just chill?

[Alona Mar]

Are you going to be like, no, no, no. I'll do a little run here and there. Maybe. We'll see.

[Adriana Mar]

She's taking meetings.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, unfortunately.

[Adriana Mar]

Businesswoman.

[Alona Mar]

Yeah.

[Olivia Mar]

But I mean, the beach club culture down there is a beautiful thing. Just, oh, people tan topless. There are nude beaches, of course, but even on normal beaches, women just don't have their tops on. Love that. No tan lines. So it's a very beautiful place and culture. And the water is gorgeous and crystal clear. And I think that was my first time swimming in the sea there. Yeah, right. Because we didn't swim when we were in Italy, because you're in there in the middle of winter. So that was a very special.

[Alona Mar]

Hey, John, are you okay? Like, is the heat wave getting you or what's up?

[Olivia Mar]

Oh, my gosh. True. You're in New York.

[Adriana Mar]

I've lost a lot of water weight. I'm actually very petite these days. It has been crazy. It was a hundred degrees yesterday. Today the heat wave broke it. I walked outside, it was 80 degrees and I was like, oh, it's a little chilly out. Like, it felt cold actually. I just like the summer. And I will say I was smart about when I was going outside. I did decide to go to the park yesterday for an hour. I regretted it on that walk back.

[Olivia Mar]

Ah.

[Adriana Mar]

It is tough out here. It is something special. But there have been some fun drinks and some ac. So I've been Having a good time?

[Olivia Mar]

How's New York as a city? How's the electric grid with all those ACs cranking?

[Adriana Mar]

I'll tell you what, I am worried for my electric bill. Two other roommates, and it is you. You can't sleep without an AC right now. It's so hot. I saw a tik tok of a guy who doesn't have an AC and woke up at 2am and yacked because of how hot he was. But I am like, con. It is being like, set your AC's at 78°. Like, only run it for these many hours. 78°. I need you to check yourself. There's other things in the city that we can do to lower electric usage. I don't know if my 74 is gonna do that.

[Olivia Mar]

Right.

[Adriana Mar]

And I'm doing 74 to be nice.

[Alona Mar]

To nice to them now with all this heat. Audriana, are you spending some time in the book Nook?

[Adriana Mar]

In the Book Nook?

[Alona Mar]

Are you reading any books?

[Adriana Mar]

I just read the Things We Water by Mariana Zapata, which is my girl, as we know. Love her.

[Olivia Mar]

So is it a sex book?

[Adriana Mar]

No, it's a werewolf book.

[Olivia Mar]

Okay.

[Adriana Mar]

There's only one scene at the end.

[Olivia Mar]

That sounds like some kind of like, award winning nonfiction novel.

[Adriana Mar]

It sounds like raiding sweetgrass. No, it is a werewolf book. And it's also. Have you guys ever seen Legacies? The CWTV show spin off from Vampire Diaries?

[Olivia Mar]

I've seen it on Netflix, but I've never watched it.

[Adriana Mar]

Okay. Essentially every magical creature exists in that universe, which I always find. Like, we can pick a few. Like, why are the garden gnomes coming out of the woods right now? Why? Like, we don't need leprechaun. Like, it's too many magical creatures that exist in this world, which I didn't love, but I still love Mariana. So I read it and it was, like, fun to see your take on a werewolf.

[Alona Mar]

So why is it called the Things We Water is that deep or something?

[Adriana Mar]

I don't know. Maybe I missed that. Maybe I missed that. But I honestly, I finished that book and I was like, hmm. Maybe it's like the relationships that we water then grow into things.

[Olivia Mar]

It wasn't like a line in the book or anything. There truly was no mention of it could have been.

[Adriana Mar]

I read kind of fast, so sometimes I do glaze over things.

[Alona Mar]

Okay. Cause the title feels like it could also be a plant book.

[Adriana Mar]

It does. I felt people are like, what are you reading right now? I'm like, the Things We Water.

[Olivia Mar]

Yeah, you Sounded intellectual saying that with my chest.

[Adriana Mar]

The things we Water. That's what I'm reading. Don't ask me. It's werewolf. I don't know.

[Olivia Mar]

Okay, so do you recommend it?

[Adriana Mar]

I had a good time, but I think if you're gonna read Mariana Zapata, you can start with another book.

[Olivia Mar]

Okay. How many stars out of five?

[Adriana Mar]

Don't hate. I need her not to listen to this.

[Olivia Mar]

Because you love her. She knows you love her. You speak freely.

[Adriana Mar]

Like two and a half. Two.

[Olivia Mar]

That's fair, Dog. Not everyone can be a winner. That's okay.

[Adriana Mar]

Sorry. Alona, what have you been reading?

[Olivia Mar]

Okay.

[Alona Mar]

Okay, guys. I got a pretty solid one. Olivia actually recommended this one to me. It's Bride by Ali Hazelwood. And I. Nom, nom, nom, ate this up and I think two days. All right, the premise here we got. Look, Adriana and I read very similar things. This is also a werewolf book in a way. So we got a vampire girl. I'm getting there. Hold on. We got an arranged marriage. All right, I. One thing about me, I do love arranged marriage books where they fall in love for arranged marriage in life. I'm not really for it unless, you know, that's what you would want. Okay, we got vampire girl, Werewolf man. But the vampires and werewolves have been at war for so long, so this. This marriage is to bring them together. She's walking down the aisle, she gets there. I think. I'm afraid to not give a little bit away, so I won't say much, but it was good. Okay, we got. We got. I enjoyed it.

[Olivia Mar]

She was nearing the end of it, and she goes, is there a second one? We got a second one. Is there a second one? I was like, no, dog, I'm sorry.

[Alona Mar]

I've already, I think, pre ordered the next one that is going to come out.

[Adriana Mar]

There's a second one that's coming.

[Alona Mar]

It's from. It's the two other characters.

[Olivia Mar]

The best friend.

[Alona Mar]

The best friend. Yes, yes.

[Olivia Mar]

And who? And who?

[Alona Mar]

And you. If you've read the end of the book. You know, I read it a couple.

[Adriana Mar]

I read this a while ago. I read it, like, right when it came out. I heard, like, a traditionally published werewolf book. I'm there.

[Alona Mar]

It was great. There was one thing that I guess some people get stuck on, an anatomy difference in the male werewolf. Hey, Johnny, you read this book?

[Adriana Mar]

Oh, I hate that shit. I hate that shit. I didn't mind it.

[Alona Mar]

I kind of. I loved it.

[Adriana Mar]

Not my world books.

[Alona Mar]

No, I loved it. Anyway, I'd highly suggest it I might give it a five out of five.

[Adriana Mar]

Whoa.

[Olivia Mar]

I did really enjoy it.

[Alona Mar]

4.7. 4.7. Just for some leeway?

[Olivia Mar]

No.

[Alona Mar]

But I think I might read it again tomorrow.

[Adriana Mar]

Victory Lap.

[Alona Mar]

It was really good. Check it out, everybody. Ali Hazelwood. And I think I've read a couple of Ali Hazelwood books. Which one does she do? Does she do the smart people books?

[Olivia Mar]

Love Hypothesis.

[Adriana Mar]

Yes. I've read Kylo Ren fanfic Not in Love. It's a Kylo Ren fanfic. That's how it started.

[Alona Mar]

Oh, well, good honor. Olivia, send us home. What have you read?

[Olivia Mar]

I would love to be able to round out this conversation and say I'm reading, like, a deeply intellectual book. I am reading nonfiction. I am reading what I was doing while you were Breeding by Christian Newman. It is. I read this straight out of university, and I loved it. I recommended it to all my friends. Alona read it. Adriana, you read it as well. Right. And so I wanted to pick it up a couple of years later. Now being 30, being in a totally different part of my life. And basically in this book, she is a TV writer. She wrote for, you know, that 70s show how I Met yout Mother. And basically her life was several months of being in a writer's room and writing tv and then several months off. And in those off times, she traveled the world. She had all kinds of experiences. She went all over the place, many of which revolved around romantic or sexual relationships. And what she learned about herself and the travels she was able to, like, do. And the kind of life that she has led and is leading, that is so different from her peers and the people that, you know back in the States and followed more traditional trajectories. And so her insights on that, I think, especially as someone who many of my friends are married, are having kids, are doing that, and I'm living very much to a different plot from them, which I love. I love what I'm doing. It's kind of refreshing to read from a woman's point of view, this kind of take on travel and sex and life and love that isn't in the Eat, Pray, Love kind of way that, like, I remember I tried reading that book. Oh, a long time ago, and I did not like that. I haven't watched the movie, but I did try the book, and it wasn't for me. But this, on the other hand, is so funny. Oh, my gosh. She is funny in every sentence. Just her whole vibe and how she writes is hilarious. Her opening sentence is, I am not a in the United States of America. And I'll leave you with that because it's one hell of a book.

[Alona Mar]

I liked it as well. I thought it was really fun. I thought all the little anecdotes and stories are really. It's one of those non fiction books that you also just. It's fun to read and you're gonna learn a little bit, but it's also just like a good kind of giggling, kick your feet book. What are you rating it out of five?

[Olivia Mar]

I'm rating it a five. Five out of five. Five stars. I've recently bought a bunch of copies to give to my friends because I just think the people in my life should also be reading it if they haven't yet.

[Adriana Mar]

So yeah, it's a good gift.

[Alona Mar]

Thank you. We had some comments ask have you any of you read the Bonds that Tie series? Aijana, I gotta look up that cover.

[Olivia Mar]

The Bonds that tie. I've never.

[Alona Mar]

I've never. I'll. Hey, I'll put it on my list.

[Olivia Mar]

Whoever says they'll report back, they'll have a book report. If any of you have a book.

[Alona Mar]

You want us to discuss on the show, comment on YouTube or send us a DM at House of Mar for a chance to be featured. I mean, I think you kind of know now what we like to read. You're probably figuring that out. So put in the comments, I'll listen. We've probably read a lot of them anyway, but we're down to try new things so let us know.

[Adriana Mar]

Well, thanks so much for coming over to the House of Mar. A Wave original.

[Alona Mar]

Be sure to watch and subscribe on YouTube and listen wherever you get your podcasts.

[Olivia Mar]

Plus follow the show on social media ousofmar for clips and behind the scenes content. Also, dump your AI boyfriend.

[Alona Mar]

Dump him.

[Olivia Mar]

They gotta go baby.

[Alona Mar]

You're worth more now.

[Olivia Mar]

I love you but get out.

[Alona Mar]

Sa.