BREAKING OUR SILENCE on Commando Controversy, Collab Breakup Posts & The Pitt

Summary

House of Maher: BREAKING OUR SILENCE on Commando Controversy, Collab Breakup Posts & The Pitt (April 28, 2026)

Podcast Overview

In this candid, hilarious, and sisterly episode of House of Maher, Olympic rugby player Ilona Maher is joined by her sisters—Olivia Maher, creator of “Girl Dinner,” and Dre Baby (Adrianna) Maher, a human rights advocate—to break their silence on recent social media controversies, discuss the nuances of dating in 2026, reflect on viral moments and collab breakup posts, and dish candidly on pop culture from “The Pitt” to books and music. The sisters’ dynamic is equal parts supportive and brutally honest, offering listeners both laughter and thoughtful reflection.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The "Leggings Without Underwear" Controversy

• Background: The sisters address a viral debate from an earlier episode about whether to wear underwear under leggings. Social media had strong reactions, especially to Olivia’s stance.

• Perspectives:

  • Olivia: “Big pet peeve of mine ... People who wear underwear under their leggings.” (02:48)
  • Ilona: Emphasizes comfort and accepts having panty lines: “I wear underwear to be comfortable.” (04:04)
  • Dre: Defends panty lines and reveals changing opinions after hearing from fitness influencers.

• Memorable Quotes:

  • “I’m like the definition of that Real Housewives thing—‘That's my opinion.’” — Olivia (03:31)
  • “It was the first time I was kind of under fire on the internet.” — Olivia, on the controversy’s blowback (04:43)

• Timestamps:

  • Controversy intro: 02:15
  • Social media reaction: 03:32
  • Hygiene debate: 05:36
  • Changing opinions: 06:42

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2. Dating: Exposure Therapy, Open Communication, and Rejecting the Game

• Trying Second Dates: Ilona shares how her anxiety around dating led her to poll everyone in her life for advice and finally go on a second date:

  • “If I don’t do this now, I don’t think I ever will ... now I feel like I can do so many second dates.” (13:35–16:04)

• Directness in Modern Dating: Dre advocates for honest communication and openly asking men if they're interested.

  • “If I get a weird message ... I just say, ‘Hey, let me know if you’re interested. If not, that’s fine,’ because I don't have time to waste.” (19:41)
  • Olivia and Ilona are amazed by Dre's direct approach, reflecting on how women are socialized to play “the game” instead.

• Giving Men 'Grace': Dre encourages her sisters to give men a little grace during dating mishaps—“I think I’m just trying to give men some more grace as well.” (21:39)

• Quotes:

  • “Everything is a win when the goal is experience.” — Olivia (15:41)
  • “It’s okay to embarrass yourself in the pursuit of human connection.” — Olivia (23:25)

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3. Breakup Posts, Collab Announcements & Social Media Transparency

• Collab Breakup Posts: The sisters reminisce about campus couples making collaborative Instagram breakup posts and discuss whether and when they'd “hard launch” a partner.

  • “They collabed on Instagram and did a breakup announcement. That was honestly my dream as a consumer of social media.” — Ilona (30:35)
  • The trio laughs at how they crave transparency from others but would hesitate to share so much themselves.

• Hard Launching Relationships: Discussion on when’s the “right” time to post a partner on social media and the pressure it brings.

  • “My one goal ... is someone I’m very proud of … so that I’m proud to hard launch.” — Dre (28:00)

• Timestamps:

  • Hard launch discussion: 27:44
  • Collab breakup posts: 30:05
  • Analysis of breakup transparency: 32:11

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4. Legacy, Last Names & Family Identity

• The sisters, as the last with the Maher name, reflect on whether they’d change their surname upon marriage.

  • “Even from a young age, I was so aware we were the last of the Mahers. I'm keeping it.” — Ilona (33:43)
  • “I've worked hard for that last name and like, I wouldn’t change it on my jersey.” — Dre (34:06)
  • Playful banter: “They're taking my last name—it's coming out of me, it's going to be Maher.” (34:11)

• Notable Moments:

  • Concerns over the legal hassle of changing names.
  • The sisters’ personal and public-facing identities.

• Timestamps:

  • Family name discussion: 33:09–34:50

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5. Tea Time: Favorite Books, TV, and Music

• Books: Recommendations and habits.

  • Ilona praises “The Poison Daughter.” (37:50)
  • Dre shares insights from “Wild Reverence,” highlighting a passage about the afterlife gatekeeper preferring “bloody stories” over quiet virtue. (41:51)
  • Discussion on reading habits and speed: “I get so invested that I need to finish it.” — Ilona (39:59)

• TV: Recent and anticipated favorites

  • “The Pitt”—Dre yearns for the ER life she never had.
  • Insightful meta-critique about TV shows featuring real people whose lives are still ongoing and whether it’s ethical (“They're not seeing any of the profit… it feels wrong.” — Ilona, 53:19)

• Music: Albums, upcoming releases, and nostalgia for “no skip” albums

  • Shoutouts for Ray, Joshua Sloan (Olivia: “This guy can yearn ... and those who yearn, earn.” 58:21), Ella Langley, Kacey Musgraves, Noah Kahan, and Ariana Grande.
  • Reflections on the art of listening to full albums: “That’s what we’re losing as a society ... full bodies of work.” — Ilona (62:17)

• Timestamps:

  • Books: 37:50–41:51
  • TV (“The Pitt”, “Love Story”): 51:55–55:55
  • Music & “no skip” albums: 57:27–64:45

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6. Personal Growth, Old Wounds, and the Gatekeeper Question

• Prompt: Dre asks what stories each would tell the “Gatekeeper” at the end of their life, sparking vulnerable reflections on past friendships, childhood insecurities, and living “big.”

  • “Maybe I need to change my whole life.” — Ilona (43:21)
  • “I felt like my world shifted a bit. I guess I am wanted.” — Dre, on a friend’s honesty reshaping her self-image (47:32)

• Encouragement: The sisters urge listeners to seek out their own stories, live boldly, and become their own main character.

• Timestamps:

  • Gatekeeper stories: 41:51–47:20

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7. Chore Wheel & Notes App Revelations

• The final playful segment: the sisters take on “chores” (laundry, dishes, lighting a candle) with corresponding self-revelatory dares (sharing notes app entries, old photos, or Google searches).

  • “People who like Frank’s Hot Sauce are the same people who lick their blood when they get cut.” — Dre’s notes app humor (69:40)
  • Old photos prompt body image reflection and life seasons.
  • Olivia’s Google searches: “Why does music pause randomly on AirPod Max?” and “Is it ‘too’ deep or ‘to’ deep?” (73:10)

• Timestamps: 67:55–74:44

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Leggings Controversy:
  “I was literally enemy number one of women ... I was merely—that's my opinion.” — Olivia (03:28, 03:31) “You should have done a notes apology.” — Ilona (05:21) “Victoria's Secret. Between the years of whatever and whatever, you had all kinds of oil between your crevices. That is Victoria’s Secret. Is the fiberglass in your pussy.” — Olivia (06:26)

• On Honest Dating:
  “It’s okay to embarrass yourself in the pursuit of human connection.” — Olivia (23:25)
  “Rejection is protection.” — Olivia (24:24)

• On Social Media and Relationships:
  “I think it's whenever he's coming, because there will be a storm for him when I post him, especially if he's not on social media.” — Dre (28:33)
  “They did a collab breakup announcement … That's honestly my dream as a consumer of social media.” — Ilona (30:35)
  “If you have to write about the highs and lows in your Instagram caption for an anniversary post—oof.” — Ilona (29:53)

• On Family Legacy:
  “Even from a young age, like I was, I've always been so aware that we were the last of the Mahers. I’m keeping it.” — Ilona (33:43)
  “They're taking my last name. It's coming out of me, it's going to be Maher.” — Dre (34:11)

• On Reading and Music:
  “I get so invested that I need to finish it.” — Ilona (39:59)
  “As Beyoncé said, people only want singles ... but albums are meant to be listened to all the way through.” — Ilona (62:15)

• On Living Fully:
  “She did not want to hear about restrained living. She wanted to know how much of a mark a soul had left behind.”
  — Dre, quoting from “Wild Reverence” (41:51)
  “Maybe I need to change my whole life.” — Ilona (43:21)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 02:15 — Leggings controversy intro
• 13:08 — Ilona’s second date anxiety & exposure therapy
• 19:20 — Dre’s advice: “Just ask if they like you”
• 27:44 — Hard launching partners & relationship “branding”
• 30:35 — Collab breakup posts & social media transparency
• 33:09 — Family legacy & last name debate
• 37:50 — Book recommendations
• 41:51 — The “Gatekeeper” life stories prompt
• 51:55 — TV & music, favorite albums, and pop culture reviews
• 67:55 — Chore wheel: silly and vulnerable closing segment

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Episode Takeaways

• The Maher sisters mix humor and real talk, openly addressing body image, dating, viral backlash, social media personas, and living authentically.
• They challenge social norms (about relationships, names, even underwear), advocate for honest communication, and nudge listeners to live boldly but kindly.
• Their blend of viral-era pop culture critique, family-rooted introspection, and laugh-out-loud banter creates a space that's both entertaining and genuinely insightful.

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Yeah.

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If you were to get married, would you change your name?

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No.

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You think?

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No, I think it is hard to

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fully say right now.

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True. But I've kind of always felt that way. Like I'm Olivia Mar.

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Even from a young age, I've always been so aware that, like, we're the last of the Mars. I'm keeping it.

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You're alone, Amar.

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I wouldn't change it on my jersey, but I could see in other spaces changing my name.

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I could hyphen it maybe, but then.

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Your kids going to have different names? Possibly.

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I got big news.

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They're taking my last name.

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It's coming out of me. It's going to be more.

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Welcome or welcome back to House of Mar A Wave original. Pull up a chair and ask your kush if they like you.

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No, I didn't know that was a thing.

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I don't think so.

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You should.

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Honesty is key. I'm teaching them all my ways. The wifi password is collabbreakuppost, all caps. You should know we have a few house rules here.

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Girls are magic.

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Reading is hot and so are you.

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Make sure to like subscribe on YouTube. Watch while you get your takeout and just have us in the room with you.

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Yeah.

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I first want to address the controversy that recently occurred on our podcast.

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We're very controversial figures.

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We're such controversial figures. Polarizing figures, this one. The whole world reacted. It was crazy.

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It literally did. Because a woman in Ireland came up to me and said and mentioned this controversy.

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So yeah, we're creating stuff here. We're creating headlines.

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We're stirring pots.

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Clockwise, counterclockwise, what we are speaking of is the wearing leggings without underwear controversy.

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Big pet peeve of mine, and I hate to. Okay, I'll just say it. People who wear underwear under their leggings.

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Okay. And I'm kind of the savior of the people in scenario.

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She is people's people.

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Yeah. She's.

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I'm the people's princess.

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People's person, for sure.

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People's panty with princess.

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Panty princess.

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Panty princess.

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So for all the recap, Audrianna is a believer in it's okay to wear panties with leggings and have panty lines. Olivia and I are more believers in, no, you shouldn't have that showing.

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Simply put, no, I was enemy number one of women.

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Yeah.

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I. The way people were commenting, you would think that I am the most evil being to ever walk when it comes to women. I was merely. I'm like, the definition of that, like, Real Housewives thing. Like, that's my opinion.

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It's my opinion.

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Like, I just felt like, hey, that's what I don't like to, you know, see an underwear line. And people's response to that was, well, why are you looking? I'm like, I'm sorry. Like, I just happen to be looking around and I see an underwear line. I'm like, oh, not my most favorite aesthetic looking thing.

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But, you know, see, I went into this of being the lone opinion in this room of do what makes you comfortable. And I wear underwear to be comfortable.

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Right.

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And so when that got clipped for social medias, Open the comment section. I was, like, about to be called a weirdo because I only ever have you two in my ears. And then to open it to be like, oh, my God. Yeah, I'm not alone here.

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Yeah.

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In fact, I'm right. Was really beautiful.

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I will say, too, the funniest thing is, like, I took all the heat and I'm like, Alona agreed with me. Nobody wanted to get mad at her. Yeah, do it.

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Get mad at me.

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See what happens.

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And it was the first time that, like, I really was kind of under fire, I think on the Internet, like, in la, under fire.

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So, so dramatic. Oh, my God.

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I was panicking for Olivia was literally

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like, oh, my God, guys, should we take it down?

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I didn't even think about that. I was like, I know this is really good, but I was kind of like, do I need to apologize? And then I kind of had the realization of, like, I said what I said. That's my opinion. Do whatever makes you happy, makes you feel Most comfortable. But, like, that's me.

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Could you imagine Olivia doing, like, a video? Guys, you need to sit down, and I have something to say. You're gonna wanna.

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You're gonna wanna sit down for this.

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I wanna sit down for this.

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It's a notes apology.

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It's a notes apology.

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You should have done a notes apology.

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I should. Maybe I still will.

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You should. I mean, Adriana this weekend was wearing leggings with underwear.

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And.

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Yeah. Yes. We are coming back to the same realization. Like, I stand so strong in this.

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A lot of the critiques on it was that people were saying it was unhygienic or unsanitary to have, like, polyester or spandex type material that close to your punani. And they're also saying, like, oh, my gosh, that's so gross. Like, but I'm like, I'm only wearing my leggings for a workout. My workout is like an hour to two hours, and then I take it off and shower.

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I'm organic fibers only.

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There was one comment, one comment from somebody who said, I wear under with my leggings because I like to wear my leggings two days in a row. And I was like, that's kooky.

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Now this, to me, yeah, that's too much fabric. Too close everywhere. Like, I want that washed. I'm not going to wear it longer than two hours or whatever.

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But still, it's exposure to these. Essentially oil, you know?

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What oil?

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Well, how do you think you get these synthetic fibers?

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Right.

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Yeah, because we're.

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Right, just.

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That is.

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Sorry. Victoria's Secret. Between the years of whatever and whatever, you had all kinds of oil between your crevices. You basically got fiberglass up there. That is Victoria's Secret. Is the fiberglass in your pussy.

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Right.

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For that.

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But do you guys feel like your opinions change at all?

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I actually do. I have. I do think my opinions change because I was talking with other fitness influencers, and I was like, do you wear underwear with that? And she's like, oh, yeah, all the time. But I think I also just don't like to see it. So I've been wearing thongs mostly because these one spiker shorts, I got serious camel toe. No matter what. I do.

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Like, it's a seam right up the middle.

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It's not even a seam. It's something.

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Right.

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So I have had to wear thongs with them.

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Right.

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And it's. It's a necessity almost, in a way. And even then, it's, I got a hungry girl down there's. I Have to, like, start wearing heavily padded underwear with these one biker shorts that I love, but then the bands thick up top, so you don't see it.

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That's my issue. My bands are thick. I think if I fixed that, you wouldn't see it as much. But if I'm gonna be honest, I just buy one pack of underwear. I've got 50 pairs of the same exact thing.

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Yeah.

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You know, decision fatigue, kind of. What?

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Obama. What about Obama? How did you just bring Obama into this?

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What are you talking about?

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What are you talking about?

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There's a whole thing that Obama didn't pick his suits, or he had, like, all the same type suit because he was making so many, like, I feel

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huge decisions during the day that it

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was, like, the one thing that he didn't have to think about.

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Somebody else picked his suit for him.

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Yes.

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That's you with your Amazon 30 pack of Black thong underwear, period.

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Decision fatigue.

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I love it. I mean, I do hear it. I get it. I've always said, like, I even said in that clip, but everyone chose to forget it. I was like, thongs are fine. Do what you got to do. Get after it. You say that you go back. What do you mean? You're like, you can do whatever you want, but also terrible. Both can be true. You can do what you want. But my opinion is just.

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It's our opinion.

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That's my opinion. Can you do the thing where you blow my head up like that? I like the vine. Thank you.

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Yeah. So same over here, I guess. Let me see.

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I'm sorry. We were so. Oh, that's the thing. So then we were in Ireland at a rugby match, and a woman came up to me at halftime. We were like, in the suite or whatever, and she's like, hi. What am I supposed to do with my leggings? Then I was like, yikes.

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It's your legacy.

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My legacy now. Sorry.

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It's really beautiful.

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Wear the underwear. Be free.

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Be free. Wear the underwear.

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Get crazy.

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Don't listen to her.

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Show that petty line.

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You know they make camel toe underwear. Do you call yourself a camel toe?

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I'm just doing that, probably.

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Kim.

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Okay, so maybe I should just have more out.

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Well, a merkin, right? Isn't a merkin like a bush? It's a wig for your bush.

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Yeah.

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So what's a fake camel toe?

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Call that camel's hump?

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Jo's cracking herself up today.

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That's a mountain in Vermont.

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Did you say camel top?

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Camel's hump, he said, call that camel's top.

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Oh, that's funny. She top.

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I'm like, shut up.

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This is the thing, guys. Their humor. Sometimes I don't get it.

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That's like, what did you top on?

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My camel toe.

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My toe.

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What do you know about that?

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What do you know about that? I don't know.

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Honestly.

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She camel on my top until I toe. Anyway. Anyway, guys, can I say one thing, please? God forbid.

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Trench coat button to the top.

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Ballerina ass slippers.

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Hold on. Trench coat button to the top.

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That's an old meme of like niche culture.

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Lily rose deaf and her girlfriend and

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like, she was this fan came up

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to the girlfriend and like, apparently Lily

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was weird and she like dragged Lily's

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outfit and being like, trench coast button

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to the top, like, button all the way. And this fan was like, just had a really rude interaction with this person. By the way, bitch, you're not really anything. Trench code. Button to the top ballot, ballerina flats or something like that and dragged her for it because.

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Are you talking about me right now?

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Yeah, because your zippers up all the way. Oh, it's given real cool girl mob boss energy in here. Make sure you're watching on YouTube because you should see this spread.

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Don't close the lights.

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It's really something. She's like kind of closing her legs. Slunk down in her seat too. Looking real.

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You should have seen Olivia in the

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Uber the other day.

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First of all, she's wearing a skirt and she is just like eagle spreading.

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It was actually crazy.

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I got a photo. Long skirt.

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No.

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Oh, what was I wearing?

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It was like the black skirt.

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It was a skort.

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I have a serious problem with man spreading. I have got to dominate a space.

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You've got to take. Good for you. Take up space.

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No her. But like, there's times to not like

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when on a date.

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What do you mean? Honestly, based on how the outfit makes me feel, right? This outfit makes me feel like I want a man spread. You know, if you got a nice skirt on, you gotta do this.

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Yeah, that looks wrong. You just crossed your legs.

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Yes.

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Yes. Not right in this outfit. This outfit deserves it.

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Too delicate, right?

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My set, my beige set.

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Johnny is honestly that.

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That zipper is.

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You're chewing on that thing.

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You're chewing on it. Can we get the little breathing room, please?

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If you like it. If you. I don't want to.

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Why would you not just say that? But instead you have to make a weird ass referen. Actually, I thought about it in the car that made.

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Let me sit on that.

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Oh, perfect.

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The hell? There we go. That looks good. Anyway, team, should we get into some group chat?

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Please.

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Ladies, we have been. I think we're doing a good job.

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We've been outside.

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We've been outside attempting to date and meet people. How has that been going for you?

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Kind of ruined my life for a week. Oh, that's so dramatic. I went on one date. It was a pretty good date. And then I was it.

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Basically, I was like, I had to

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go on a second date because I was like, it was a good. It was a good date, but I didn't want to. And I had this whole realization, oh, I don't usually get to the second date. And kind of. I feel like I've never had, like, great first dates, so it's never really, like, required a second date. And so when I finally got this place and I was like, oh, I've never. I've not really. Don't really get past this. And it was like, I really had to push myself.

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And I was.

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I polled everyone in my life, waiting for someone to tell me, no, don't go on a second date. Every one of you guys said, yeah, second date. So I did it.

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So the practice of it, though, the exposure therapy of it all.

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But I think.

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And then also for. We're sometimes so quick, I think, to judge and be like, no, I don't like it. And I do it as well, that even now I'm like, Even if there's. If there's something that I just really, really don't like him. But if they're okay, I will give them a second date just to see.

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I'm glad I did that. And I also. I got to this point where I was like. Because it was kind of overtaking my brain, and I was so anxious, and I was like, if I don't do this now, I don't think I ever will.

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Yeah.

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You know, I think I'm 26 years old, almost 27, that I was like, I gotta get past this. Yeah, I should have gotten past this four years ago, you know? So I'm very proud of myself. It also, like, wasn't that bad. It was just, like. I really just had to get over, like, my own mind. Like, the date itself was just a date, you know, it was like.

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So you were on it, kind of like, oh, God, what was I freaking out for?

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Yeah, exactly. I just. I don't know why. Like, it really just, like, like, tossled me. No, it really just, like, shook me for a bit.

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You were having a tough time figuring it out. Like, I think I definitely Wanted you to go on it, but I saw that you were really, I think even in the train. On the train, didn't you say you had to. You did a little nip or like

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a shot on the subway? And that's not. Adrianna actually was during transfers.

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I was very smart about it because I was like maybe like 15 minutes before I actually get there. Right?

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She's doing it like pre workout.

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What alcohol?

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It was like a orange tequila type thing. It was gnarly.

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It was so sweet.

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And then I also packed one singular mint for afterwards so I didn't smell like tequila when I showed up to the date. Singular mint, but in my coin pocket.

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Very nice. Did he pay for everything?

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Yeah, he did actually. On the first date he paid for drinks. And then I paid for food after. We just got slices and then this one. Cause also he had ordered food. He hadn't eaten yet. So I did offer and he was like, no, do it next time. I don't know if there is going to be a third date, but he's cute.

[B]

He's cute. We saw pictures and I think that what you felt was totally normal. And I don't think you're alone in that nervousness. I feel that way too. I definitely talk stuff up in my brain way too much. And then I do things and I'm like, that was fine. Why did I expend all that energy, you know? And I think I'm still trying to remind myself that everything is a win when the goal is experience and you just experience.

[C]

She loves that quote. Eh?

[B]

I love that quote. And I'm just like. Because I'm even trying to talk myself up into like, other dates and follow up dates where I'm like, no, I don't want to because that, you know, what if they get. And I'm like, yeah, okay, so what? We're only on this earth for so many days. It's gonna be fine. Let me go enjoy an experience and learn more about myself by getting to know somebody. El too. So I don't think you're alone in that. And I'm proud of you for doing it. Thank you.

[A]

And now I feel like I can do so many second dates.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Third dates.

[C]

I'm shy. Brave dude.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

I'll let you know about a third

[B]

date if I ever get there. Proud of you.

[A]

It's probably gonna be two weeks of

[B]

mind altering stuff instead, right? Liv, I went on a date recently where.

[A]

And I actually just told this story

[B]

to Oma and she laughed so hard, she thought it was so funny. So I went on a date. We were supposed to meet at this bar, right? And when we, we pulled up at the same time, it's closed on a Monday. We were like, oh, no, what are we gonna do? He looks on his maps and he goes, oh, there's a bar around the corner from here. There's a dive bar around the corner. And I was like, there's a dive bar around the corner from here. I love dive bars. How do I not know about this dive bar? This is crazy. And so I was like, for sure, let's go. So we go, we get there, we walk in. It's a normal seeming dive bar, you know, like TV screens, TV screens in the corner, men milling about or whatever. We sit down at the bar. He's telling me a story and. And as he's telling me a story, and I'm kind of looking around and I look up at a TV screen in the corner. There is, there's no other way to put it but graphic gay porn on the screen. Like, I don't think I could describe what was happening on that screen to you without this video getting flagged.

[C]

Ally, Ally, Ally. I was like, well, that's Valentina, to

[B]

be sure, but I'm talking porn. It was porn.

[C]

And I was there a bouncer at the door? No, just went on in.

[B]

Just went on in.

[A]

Wow, another straight person taking up space in a queer space.

[B]

So that's the thing is, I'm like, oh my God, this is a gay bar. We're in a gay bar, obviously. And so he's still telling a story and he has not realized that this is what's happening. So I turn to him slowly and I like, put my hands on his arm and I go, so we are in a gay bar right now. To which he pauses his story, looks up at the TV screen, like, flinches, is like, taken aback and goes, I just watched that guy come. And so I don't know if this man was an angel or if he just saw like, oh, maybe these people don't realize what this bar is. A guy came up to us and was like, hey, you guys know it's cash only.

[C]

And we were like, oh, we don't have cash again.

[B]

Didn't want to be taking up space in a queer space, please. So we got out of there. On the way out is when I started seeing more things around the walls where this wasn't just a gay bar, it was like a leather bar. So, like, more niche, more. It was, I mean, quite the story to tell.

[C]

I Now call him Gay Bar. Whenever we talk about him, I'm like, oh, are you going on a date with Gay Bar? And I'll be like, yep, that sucks. That's now his.

[B]

Yeah, sorry.

[A]

It's kind of perfect. What should we call your guy? I don't know. I also don't know if, if there's not gonna be another day if he should have a name, you know, Sorry,

[B]

we won't, we won't freak, but Gay

[A]

Bar is too good. You can't force it either.

[C]

Yeah, we can't.

[A]

You can't, you can't. And Oma love that story.

[B]

Oh yeah, she giggled. Our own is a bit hard of hearing. She will never admit that. Love you, Oma. But when you're FaceTiming her, she definitely like, has to be like locked in on you. She's reading your lips a little bit. But it's also like, Even though it's FaceTime, I'm still yelling to try to make that emphasis louder on my end. So it's me yelling into my phone, this story about the gay bar and watching gay sex on the screen to my 93 year old. Oma.

[C]

She's cool. She's with it.

[B]

She's with it. She's with it.

[A]

She's one of the girls.

[B]

Yeah. Alone. Can you tell us about your take on asking men if they like you? Oh yeah.

[C]

You guys are being a little bit.

[B]

You.

[C]

They. Olivia went on a date and like, she wasn't sure if it was friend vibes or not. I was like, did you ask him?

[B]

I was like, what do you mean?

[A]

I didn't know that was an option. We did.

[B]

She was like, just ask. I just asked them if I'm not feeling that they're really liking me. I just say, hey, do you actually like me?

[C]

Oh, yeah, I'll all the time. I'd rather know than just keep going or even if I get a weird message over text.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And it doesn't seem like he's into it. I was like, oh, just like, let me know if you're interested. If not, like, that's fine because I, I don't have time to waste.

[B]

I know.

[C]

I'd rather know if you are into me or not. Or we can just have open communication. Like I even, you know, talked about. I've had bad days before where afterwards I'm like, how did that, you think that went? He's like, yeah, it's really good. I'm like, oh, I didn't think it went well.

[B]

You're giving performance reviews on the Spot.

[C]

I don't want to see this review. Yeah, I don't want to see them again. Just, we're wasting both of our times. You are now so confused sometimes by, what was that? Does he just want to be my friend? I'm like, this can all be cleared up.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Maybe then you'll be like, oh, no, I like you too. But, you know, then you can be a little more flirty.

[B]

I guess so.

[A]

And now, have you always done this?

[C]

I have been pretty, yes.

[A]

Do you prefer in person or text?

[C]

It's definitely easier over text, but there are moments in person where I try to like either. Like, pretty. If I don't like him, but he's a great person. You know, slyly put it in,

[A]

and

[C]

then if I just really had a bad time, I will just say it outright. Like, I just don't. You know, this. You're not. For me, I don't have time. But over text is much easier. Of course, I don't really like ghosting as much, so I do try to be a little honest, but I do think, honestly, women with men, I think they'll know, and, I mean, they might lie to you, but if you just honestly, hey, just let me know.

[B]

Yeah, it's a good point. She said this, and she presented it as simply, why haven't you thought to do that? And both Adrianna and I were just silent. We were both, like, doing the, like, the math in our heads. We were both like. We didn't know that was an option, honestly, like, to just ask someone straight up if they're liking you. I guess we're so used to having to, like, play the game.

[C]

Yeah, I guess.

[B]

Of dating. But, I mean, people talk about how, like, when I, you know, when I was entering the dating scene, people were like, it's the trenches out here. It's bad. And I was like, no way. It's worse. Like, it's not good out there. Team. I don't know. At least that's been my experience so far.

[C]

And then I've been trying to help you to give these men grace.

[B]

Yeah, I don't give them grace. I run a strict program.

[C]

She's run a strict program, and I'm like, damn, give them some grace. Men are dumb in terms of. I think sometimes we're miscommunication of, like, when you need to text. Like, with our friends, we're texting constantly. We always follow up whenever. With men, it might be a different thing, but there is the bare minimum of texting after the date or whatever it is. But I think I'm just trying to give men some more grace as well.

[B]

Why? I guess that's what I've kind of wanted to ask you is like, why are you doing that? Do they deserve it?

[C]

So all. I don't. Because I don't. We're not all perfect.

[B]

No, exactly.

[A]

Innocent until proven guilty.

[C]

Innocent until proven guilty.

[B]

I like that.

[C]

And they have their own thing. They've gotten through their own to get to this point. They don't even know a lot of times what they want. Like, we don't know sometimes as well.

[A]

Because I often get like, when people are like, if he wanted to, he would. And I was like, well, you want to and you're not. So you can't put the same onto this random guy.

[B]

I guess so.

[A]

You know, and I do understand that there is societal expectations of a guy, you know, paying or asking to go out or this. But I'm like, with shifting, you know, you have to give grace.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Not too much. There are some things that you should expect, of course. Like for me, I expect you pay on the first date. I expect that you follow up if you like me, you know, at least a text and then we can go from there.

[B]

The whole, like, I don't chase, I attract kind of mentality.

[C]

I Maybe, yeah, I have that a little bit. I think there's some things.

[A]

But it's not wrong to show that you are.

[B]

Oh, no, no, no.

[A]

Like, you can. You can text first sometimes.

[B]

Yeah. You know, I like that. I saw girls like, TikTok one of those, like, more like artsy ones where it's like, it's okay to embarrass yourself in the pursuit of human connection.

[C]

Right. That's good.

[B]

And I loved that thought. That was beautiful.

[C]

Get a lot of bangers up there.

[A]

I think that we could do an

[B]

episode just on that.

[C]

Rejection's also okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And girls are taught, like, you can't be the one to be rejected.

[A]

Right.

[C]

But if it's in a way where you just strike it up and something happens. Not that I'm saying I've been rejected often, but I have been rejected before. And I think it's a thing to. It's okay to. I'm not everybody's type. I am not for sure. Not every man's type. It takes a certain man to like me. And like, I think it's. You have to figure that out. There's some men who just like this. Some women are just like this. So I think we can all be a little bit more okay with rejection.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

As women.

[A]

I like that.

[B]

I got another one. Rejection is protection. Anyway, so can you give us an example of a text that you send? That's one too. Rejection is redirection or rejection is protection.

[C]

Intriguing.

[B]

You're being protected. You might not know what from, but love that. Yeah. Can you give us an example of a text that you might send for anybody that. That needs help with this to send to be like, hey, like, are you feeling this?

[C]

Oh, well, one time I was messing this guy. So, like, months before we, he'd matched with me on one of the dating apps and he'd messaged me first and we had a conversation. I was like, I'm away now, but when I'm back, let's link up or whatever. And so then I messaged him when I got back, and then he replied. Took a long time for him to apply. And we replied very kind of open, like, no, oh my gosh, yes, let's do this. No concrete times or anything like that. Took him a while to reply. And then I replied to his questions. But even then, I also really checked vibes over text. I think you can tell a lot by how long they take to reply, what. How the replies are and whatnot. And he took a long time to reply to my message. And when he did reply again, it was very much so, like, I don't know what the word is, but not like focused. It was kind of, oh, and then I doing this. And yeah, I did this. And so then I said, I don't remember what his name was, but say it was like. I was like, hey, Mark, I. By the time you're taking to reply and the amount by the time you're taking a reply and how your message is seeming, it seems like you're not interested in me. Just let me know. That's totally fine. Cause I was done wasting my time. He was a very cute guy. He messaged me first, and then he messages back. He's like, yeah, I'm just not interested at this time. Which I was like, okay, it kind of hurt, but I think, but I'm not at this time. You see, my great person. I was like, perfect. That's fine. Now I don't waste any more time waiting for his messages. This guy that I thought liked me. Yeah, because we, you know, he was. He was messaging me back, but you could tell he wasn't in it.

[B]

You weren't a priority.

[C]

I wasn't a priority. I don't even have to be a priority. But that he just wasn't interested in that way. I think he could have lied and said like, oh yeah, I'm seeing somebody. That would have been fine. Saying you're not interested again, you got to get ready for rejection. I was like, per. Thank you, Mark. So, yeah, I just think girls, we can be so honest with our friends sometimes. And I think it's best to be honest also with the partner that you're going to choose and have that communication. Because the amount that you have to communicate when you are in a relationship and understand each other, it's best you start understanding each other now.

[B]

True.

[C]

Deep as hell.

[B]

Deep as hell. I did have an incredible moment on a date. Nothing really to do with the man. We were waiting to go into a bar.

[C]

Oh.

[B]

And we're standing outside and a car like an Uber pulls up directly in front of us and a girl. I'm sorry. And a woman gets out and she opens the door and she looks right at me and she goes, are you Olivia?

[C]

You guys, you couldn't have played.

[B]

I could have paid for that. I couldn't. Next to the guy I'm on a first date with.

[C]

Yeah, please.

[B]

I. I'm not kidding. My head.

[C]

Woo.

[B]

In the clouds. Like, he was like, what the hell?

[C]

Oh my gosh.

[B]

Like, I was like, yeah, like it happens sometimes. That doesn't happen. You know what I mean? Like so huge shout out to you. I hope you had a fabulous rest of the night with your friend that was in town. You guys are bar harping. Love you so much.

[A]

Would you ever do a hard launch

[B]

on your socials, Ilona?

[C]

Not that I'm anywhere as close to that point. Hence if. Yeah, well, I would for sure.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I think I. My one of my one goals as I look for a man is somebody that I'm very proud of because I think I've been with some guys who I'm like, I like them. I'm just not like proud of them or somebody who I like really think my family would love or whatever. So somebody that I'm really proud of.

[A]

How long would you wait? Like when do you know it's the right time to hard launch?

[C]

I don't know. I feel like that'd be so dependent. I have one friend who has been with her boyfriend for years and only still like only on a close friend story will she post him. And if she posts them on her other story, she like will only be his hand or something like that.

[B]

Hot.

[C]

That's actually her piece.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

I think it's whenever he's coming because there will also come Something for him when I post him. And he will get a lot. And especially if he's not on social media like that. The storm that will follow him, probably a positive storm. Everyone will be so excited. But people knowing my story, knowing I don't, you know, don't have boyfriends or whatnot, they'll be. He's gonna have to be prepared for that.

[B]

They'll be ready.

[C]

So I think it's hard launch if you're proud. I do feel that people sometimes when they, like, post so much with their partner. Do you guys believe this? Like, they actually don't like each other. They're trying to prove something to us.

[B]

They're trying to convince themselves almost by, like, convincing. Trying to convince their audience by how much they love each other.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Because there's just this so much content getting posted about their love and need for each other.

[C]

What are those captions that are funny? They're like, we've been through the highs and lows. That's.

[A]

You see me at my worst and at my best, it's kind of like maid of honor or like speeches at weddings.

[B]

Right, Right.

[A]

If you had told me two years ago, I'd be standing up here with you, though.

[B]

We fight, we love. Like, what. You know what I mean? It's like, if you've put it. If you have to write about the highs and lows in your Instagram caption for, like, an anniversary post.

[C]

Oof.

[A]

Also, like, why is everyone in your business? I'm happy to be in your business, honestly.

[B]

Keep posting because I love it. I eat that stuff up.

[A]

And also, I like a breakup post.

[C]

Especially when you post. Yeah.

[A]

You post so much about your relationship, and then all of a sudden, he's gone, and I'm like, well, what happened? Yeah, I once had this couple in college. They were together all four years of college. They. They posted. Not, like, a lot, but, like, they were, like, well known throughout campus of, like, oh, like, look at them. And then it was like, after graduation. I want to say she knows this. They did a collab breakup announcement. They collabed on Instagram and did a breakup announcement.

[C]

Okay, how many followers they have?

[A]

Like, maybe like, a thousand, too.

[B]

Eat that up. I would eat that up.

[A]

And that was honestly, like, my dream as, like, a consumer of social media. Because they. I think they said, why too? Of just, like, that they were, like, moving apart, like, physically and emotionally. And I was like, yeah, we've been, you know, following your relationship for four years.

[B]

You deserve that.

[A]

Like, I deserve to know how it ended.

[B]

Right Interesting, because they were like a celebrity in your own life. Yeah, exactly.

[A]

On campus, they were campus celebrities. You know, I understand when influencers, especially if he's like built a whole channel on your relationship, you have to announce your breakup.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, maybe not David Dobrik, Liza koshy style, full YouTube video, but there's like, you have to explain because all of a sudden they're gone and they could have just broken up and left us wondering.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, but no, they like did a good deed and collab and told us why. I tried to find it.

[C]

I feel like a collab post to something that's a little over top. Maybe you could just post a solo pic like on my single journey.

[A]

Or just like maybe a story.

[C]

Maybe just story.

[A]

Guys, stop asking.

[B]

My Becca Bastos, who we had on the show, she has this theory about, like, men never post sunset pictures unless they're single. She's like. She was like, I used to see so many sunset photos and all of a sudden, one day they were gone. Guess what? They're back. She's like, she knows exactly. I know exactly what's going on. These people's relationships by the amount of sunset photos men post.

[A]

I.

[B]

You know what?

[C]

I enjoy that. But then how long do you even keep that breakup post up there?

[B]

Good point. You archive it after a certain amount of time.

[A]

Yeah, I don't think you'd want it up there forever.

[B]

What was the photo of the two of them?

[A]

It was of the two of them.

[B]

Black and white.

[A]

No, it wasn't black and white.

[B]

You've gotta make that black and white.

[A]

Oh, God. But that was a great day on social media. Don't want to.

[C]

Hi.

[B]

How was that group chat for you?

[A]

Oh, it went crazy.

[B]

I can't even imagine. I can't even imagine.

[A]

So breakup posts.

[C]

Collab.

[A]

Breakup posts. Bring them back and more on social.

[B]

Bring them back.

[C]

I don't.

[B]

Please do though, because I want to see them. That's hilarious. Actually, if you see any, if you are watching us and you know of people in your life that have done this, please tag me in it so I can come see it. Please. I love knowing random people's stuff.

[C]

Girl, you didn't put your shit out there.

[B]

Why would I do that? That's what I'm saying. I'm not going to do it. But I want to see other things.

[A]

People wanted to know.

[B]

I want to know. I want to be on random people's drama. You know what I mean?

[C]

Hmm.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

We're in a fun fact, actually. We're kind of the last of our bloodline.

[B]

Fun fact.

[C]

Not fun fact. But there's only girls with the Mar. Our Mar last name.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

We have two female cousins.

[A]

Second cousins.

[C]

Second cousins around our age. Then it's just us, huh? We don't have much family with the Mar name. So if you were to get married, would you change your name?

[B]

No.

[A]

You think?

[B]

No, I don't think I would.

[C]

I think it is hard to fully say right now.

[B]

True. But I've kind of always felt that way. Like I love. I'm Olivia Mar.

[A]

Even from a young age, like I was, I've always been so aware that, like, we were the last of the Mars. I'm keeping it.

[B]

You know your thoughts like you're Ilonamar. Yeah, I worked for that.

[C]

I don't know if I would change it for like business wise, public facing. Public facing wise. Because I've worked hard for that last name and like I wouldn't change it on my jersey, but I could see in other spaces changing my name.

[A]

I could hyphen it. Maybe, maybe, maybe.

[C]

But then your kids are gonna have different names. Possibly.

[B]

I got big news. They're taking my last name.

[A]

It's coming out of me. It's gonna be more. You're right.

[B]

I can't see you to it now, but. I know, but yeah, it is gonna depend. But I just have always in my brain been like, I'm Olivia Marr. Like, I've worked to be who I am. This is how I identify. I'm just gonna let a man I don't know.

[C]

That's what dad did with mom.

[A]

Well, mom's a hyphen.

[C]

Barely. That's Meena Kamar.

[A]

Well, when I have to fill out my passport information, I have to be like, can I get some extra boxes over here?

[B]

When you do your mom. When you do mom's name. Right, right.

[C]

But like, I think there's something beautiful about it.

[A]

There is something beautiful.

[B]

No, I do agree.

[A]

I think it is really like such a, like almost like a show of your love and your relationship to change your name. I also just, I feel so connected to ours. Like maybe if we had a last name that I was, you know, we had like 50 cousins and everything.

[B]

It may be a little different, but

[A]

we were such like a tight knit family as well, small. That I'm like.

[B]

And as you put it, last of our bloodline. Damn. Like, come on.

[A]

And also legally a nightmare. Do not make me go to the dmv. Do not make me go to my local USPS to change My passport producer.

[C]

Are you changing your last name? No, ma', am.

[B]

Absolutely not.

[A]

I love my Game of Thrones ass name.

[B]

I'm not giving. Right, right.

[C]

Producers, not producers.

[B]

That's all we need to freaking know.

[A]

And also back to the legal thing. Like, you put in all that work to change your last name. What is it? 40% of marriages end up in divorce, probably more.

[C]

That's where I do get. Because I've seen some where they've changed the last names on a lot of things and then they get divorced and they.

[B]

God forbid, they've changed their Instagram handle and now that username is gone and

[C]

you can get it back.

[B]

Yeah. People on their wedding day, like, no hate, no shade, change their. Like, their username to their new last name. And I'm like, damn, is it that deep? I get that it is that deep

[A]

for them in my brain. I'm like, do you have a separate, like, burner account?

[B]

You save that username.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Are you prepared? Right.

[C]

Interesting.

[B]

Maybe we're just cynics, though. But, like, I. Livy Mar. Like, that's my Instagram handle.

[A]

I got my full name.

[B]

I'm not even Livy.

[A]

I'm Audrey.

[B]

I couldn't get Olivia Mar back in the day.

[C]

Like, actually, there's a girl in Vermont who we knew. Same name as her.

[B]

Yeah. Olivia.

[C]

Did that young girl get the. The handle?

[B]

She was much younger than me, so I don't think Instagram was a thing for her.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

When it first came out, there's probably

[A]

like thousands of other.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And then a lot of people call her Livy, even though I don't. Do I call you Livy? Sometimes you do call you Olivia. Mostly you call me Liv.

[B]

Livy. Livy is like my family. Like my, like, cutesy nickname name at the house. But, like.

[C]

But now you're known as that.

[B]

But now I'm kind of known as that. Cuz it is my Instagram handle. Cuz when I made Instagram back in, what, 2012, 2013, and Olivia Mar wasn't available, I was like, oh, well, you know, this is just like a fun thing for posting pictures. Who would. It won't even be that important. Hello. To this day, you know, I mean, you got close. I.

[C]

When I was doing my Instagram handle, remember when I was. I did, like, some weird stuff.

[A]

Change 32.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. She had random numbers and, like, initials, and Adriana went. Change it to your full name. Yeah.

[A]

And I'll be sending you an invoice.

[B]

Yeah, you should.

[A]

That was.

[C]

No, it was a Great time. I got my name.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Shall we head into tea time?

[A]

Yeah, please. Okay, ladies, I think we've spilled quite a bit of tea.

[B]

We really have. That was fun.

[A]

I wanna move us into our favorite things of 2026 so far and what we are looking forward to. And it's about to be my birthday, so I get to run it. I wanna start first.

[B]

Happy birthday, Dre.

[C]

Happy mermaid, Dre.

[A]

Right, right, right. I recently read a book called the Poison Daughter.

[B]

Oh, yeah, you texted this.

[C]

Oh, you did like this?

[B]

You said quick about that.

[A]

That was a good book.

[B]

You trust it right away as I talk about.

[A]

I read a lot of Kindle Unlimited, Right? And so I downloaded it, and so my expectations are immediately lowered.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And I was reading this thing, and I was like, wow. Oh, okay. It was surprising in the best way possible. Like, it was. It was unique. It had a really cool thing. And also the way it, like, had a good amount of twists in it that I didn't see coming. That, like, I think I didn't see coming because it was a Kindle one. But I was like, no way. I thought it was gonna be straightforward. And I was like, I should have seen that coming. I was like, as someone, I don't want to give too much away, but as an avid reader of these things, I was like, I should have. I felt like an idiot.

[C]

Really.

[A]

It was so good. God, I wish I could go back, honestly, really. And then right after I finished it, someone had DM'd and be like, you should read Poison Daughter. And I was like, guess what?

[B]

Or you did.

[A]

And then I DM the author. Cause I usually. I don't. You're someone who just, like, you've got a thought. You'll reach out to them.

[C]

I love it. I just DM'd another author, and I DM my salad dressing guy.

[A]

I know.

[C]

And DM'd other people just to let them know they appreciate it.

[B]

A great A y apper, everyone.

[A]

And that's what I did. I DMed her. And I think I wrote Just read the Poison Daughter. It shook my world. And she was like, oh, my God, thank you so much.

[B]

Like, I love Da Da Da.

[A]

And I was like. And then we just talked about it

[B]

for a while, and we had fun.

[A]

It was a good book. I think you'd really love it.

[C]

I'll read it for sure.

[A]

I think you would like it, but

[B]

it'll take me a while.

[C]

She'll get you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm famously a very slow reader compared to my sisters. Adriana can read A book in a day less than she just be cranking alone is very quick. I don't know why.

[C]

What makes you guys fast readers smarter? I don't want to flex. I think that you've always just taken your time with things, whereas we're like, we want to get to the end of it because, like, I've been reading this book and I see how much I have left and I am pushing.

[B]

Right. But then is it an enjoyable process?

[A]

Yeah, for sure it is somewhat. I've called it like an addiction before. I know that's so dramatic. But I mean that I get so invested that, like, I need to finish it. That, like, that's why one of my goals for this year was I cannot stay up to 3am reading books anymore.

[B]

Because you're like, I gotta finish it.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm just. It pulls me in and I cannot close the book that I. That's how I can read so much.

[C]

At least you're not doing drugs, but

[B]

how are you actually reading fast? Are your eyes just going crazy across the page?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Practice makes perfect. I've been doing this since I don't know. What age did you learn how to read?

[B]

6, 5.

[C]

She's been in it. I don't know. I think that I just. You read slowly, which is really good. Cause you take in a story more, whereas I can get through so many more stories. So you're taking in a world. I can take in many worlds right

[A]

at a time, and I don't want to flex. I did have a college level reading or I had a. Yeah. College level reading level in eighth grade.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You got those. You got that pizza party from Pizza Hut for all the reading.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

That's awesome. Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Good for you.

[C]

I want to share my book, please. Or something that I've loved so far. Well, first I'm reading this book. I brought it in today and I messaged her, the author, that I liked your book. So. Rebecca Ross, Wild Reverence. And I really like the part in it that it's kind of about gods and. And you have sky gods and you have under gods. And there's a God of wind and autumn and whatnot. And the main character is a herald. So she like carries messages, carries things, but she's there. She's meets with the gatekeeper who's gonna let you know whether or not you can pass into. Who's gonna tell you whether or not you're able to pass into the afterlife. Afterlife. And live a good life, or are you gonna be stuck in the mists.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

But this Gatekeeper, which I loved about her, is that she's looking for stories. She's looking that you've lived your life to the fullest. She goes. One of the characters, Zan, learned swiftly what the gatekeeper wanted. It was not good deeds, although sometimes she casts another bone in favor of him when he had been gracious or compassionate. It was the bloody stories, the heartbreaking tales, the terrible decisions and the wretched moments. She did not want to hear about restrained living. She wanted to know how much of a mark a soul had left behind. And I thought that was really cool because we're so much taught in some religions and whatnot to get into heaven or you have to be perfect and do all the right things and not sin and do everything like this. Whereas to me, this gatekeeper, and we see her again, she wants to be entertained. She wants to learn the stories. She wants to hear all the misdeeds, the good and the bad. So when you're at dinner the other night, I kind of posed this question to you guys about, what stories would you tell the Bone Keepers or the. What stories would you tell the Gatekeepers so that she can add a bone to your scale and hopefully allow you passage to tip it for?

[B]

That's. I think that's so cool.

[C]

Isn't that cool?

[B]

It's like, yeah. You're not being rewarded for, like, a meek, quiet, polite lifestyle adhering to just, like, you know, what a lot of. Yeah. Religions say today. Instead, it's like, life is a gift.

[A]

Like, do the most.

[C]

Yes, do the most.

[B]

I love that. Yeah.

[C]

Like, live unrestrained.

[B]

How. How did you do it to the biggest. How did. How big did you do it?

[A]

And it really got me thinking, and I'm. I think I got to change my ways a bit. And I was like, go on a

[B]

third date, maybe get crazy with it.

[A]

I didn't say that. Like, there's so much more I could be doing, you know? And, like, I do. I am very happy with my life, and I think I am very fulfilled, but I also am like, I think there's still room for more. And you said that. And I got nervous. I was like, oh, I don't know if I have. I don't know if I'd entertain the Bone Keeper or the Gatekeeper. The gate. I don't know if I'd entertain the Gatekeeper. You know that. I think maybe when I was younger, I was. I think I lived louder when I was younger. And I've kind of reeled it in. I Think that is also kind of growing up. But I'm like, I should bring that back. I don't know. I felt embarrassed a bit by myself of like, you know, I've never been posed a question like that. Where I was like, have I been? Or do I just kind of now coast on others whose plan and do this? That I'm like, yeah, I'll join, but I'm never like the one kind of steering. So maybe I need to read it. Maybe I need to change my whole life. Right.

[C]

I think it's just some people say it for different reasons. Like there's one creator who says, like, do it for the plot. There's other things that they say, you know, what are you gonna remember? Nights in or, you know, night out. I think that even bad stories, what I took from it, even bad stories, you've lived a life and even mistakes you've made because the gatekeeper wants to hear that. He wants to hear it all. Yeah, those are shows that you lived. Even the trauma or whatever, you know, that's what I wanted to hear. So, like, I was thinking, and then we were thinking and I said, I probably do a lot of stories from my time, my nights out in sevens. I would tell the story of Tokyo Olympics and how hard that was. I would tell memoirs or I would tell stories of just friendships and that have been good, some of them that have been really not good. All this can be heard in my memoir notes. I think we all have stories. And I would also encourage people to start thinking about these stories to tell the gatekeeper. Not that you have to believe in it, but think of the stories to tell the gatekeeper.

[B]

Just to tell yourself when you're older too.

[A]

Tell your kids.

[B]

There's that story of like the 80 year old or like the older woman who's passing away. And they're like, did you enjoy life? And she's like, it was all such fun.

[C]

Yeah, she just lived.

[B]

She was like, it was all such fun. And I think that's how I want to feel when I'm older. You know, maybe it's not all good, but at the end of the day, you lived and it felt good. Is there something that you want to do before your next birthday that you would tell the gatekeeper?

[A]

No. One thing in mind, I think it's just like an overarching feeling, you know, of that. I think a lot of times the fun I have again is created by others. I'm still having fun, but it's. I'm not the one who's like, oh, we should do this and do that.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And I've talked about this before that I think middle school and some of high school really affected me of that. I was always kind of the outside of groups, and so I was always. I would get, like, pity invites sometimes and, like, be like, okay, we want Audrana for this one, for this hangout. And so I was always waiting to be invited. Like, I was never the one. Like, if I would invite people, it would always be like, oh, I'm busy, you know? So I was always under the expectation that I was like, oh, my role in life is to be invited, you know, for when they want me. And kind of growing up, actually, it was a conversation I had with my best friend where a few years ago, she was like, can we get coffee? And I was like, yeah, sure. And at coffee, she was like, why aren't you ever creating plans? Like, why is it just me? Like, it makes me feel bad. Like, I. It's not fair that it's like, it's just me. And it was kind of a groundbreaking conversation because I was like, oh, I didn't really expect you wanted me to do that. Like, it was almost that in my brain, she had the power in the friendship.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Weird that. It was like, she was being nice to be friends with me. And, like, at that point, we'd already been friends 10 years.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so we had this conversation, and I just remember then I felt so guilty. I was like, I didn't know that you felt like this.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so after it, like, I remember leaving, and I was like, I felt like my world shifted a bit. I was like, oh, I guess I am wanted.

[B]

But, like. And what a good friend for saying that.

[A]

And I'm like, thank God she did, instead of it brewing inside of her.

[B]

Yeah. Because it could easily, from her perspective, be seen as like, does Adriana think she's too good to ask me?

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Whereas in your brain, it's the opposite. Like, you think she's too good. Like, you'll let her come to you. Like that kind of.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Yeah. That's interesting dynamic.

[A]

And I think I've carried some of that still, you know that, like, I wait to be invited, like, when someone wants me.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so I'm trying to shed that. And I will say, thank God my friend said that again, because now she's never had a complaint like that again.

[C]

Now you invite her too much.

[A]

Yes. She's like, adriana, she's like, shut up.

[C]

I think that's. I think I'm the Same way. I definitely have gotten past it, but I have had so many instances of like, friends not being who I thought they were or not being as much of a friend as I was. And I was like, left out a lot. I didn't have many friends in, you know, as you guys know, throughout school, throughout, I would say all my schooling, I didn't have a lot of friends. So now it takes me a lot to be a friend. But once somebody has really proved themselves as a friend to me and I have great friends now, I mean, I think we all agree, like just the best people around me, but I still get, oh, I hope they like me. Yeah, I wonder if she likes me. I still want people to really like me and my friends really like me. I'm still like that high school girl who wants to be invited but isn't going to.

[A]

She's always gonna live inside of us.

[B]

She will always be there.

[C]

She'll always be here. She'll always be there.

[B]

But I think you also know what a great friend is now and how to find one because you went through not good friendships too. So you know what to not do.

[A]

What's one thing I'm looking forward to?

[B]

What a boy. I would say. Is there a book that you're anticipating that you're looking forward to?

[A]

I want to say it's called Furybound. It's the Wolves of Ruin, Book two. This is the book I talked about, the first one a while ago that was almost kind of like a fourth wing where it's the wolves bind themselves to them, you know. But it ended on a huge twist.

[C]

Are the wolves hot? Humans too?

[A]

The wolves are wolves.

[C]

Oh, the wolves are wolves. The wolves are wolves. I don't even know that was a

[A]

thing and it comes out.

[C]

I didn't know that could happen to both.

[B]

I didn't know that was an option.

[A]

Oh, wolves are their own thing.

[C]

They're not. Werewolf. No werewolf.

[A]

What? I shouldn't even read, honestly.

[C]

They know sex.

[B]

They don't do kissing.

[C]

They know no interesting.

[B]

Okay, cool.

[A]

So that's the one that I'm looking forward to.

[B]

I am looking forward to. I think it's. And now Back to youo BK Borison. Only because I've only read their holiday book and so and I did enjoy it but I now need to read like a non holiday like regular romance book by them. So I am looking forward to that and it keeps getting recommended by everyone.

[A]

So I don't have a huge TBR books kind of find me and I just download it and read it, you know, like, occasionally, if it's the second book in a series or something, then I'll put it in my special list so I know when it gets released. But other than that, books find their way to me.

[B]

I do want to read all of the, like, Ali Hazelwood, like, novellas. I feel like she writes so many. Just tiny little things that only get released on like, digital format or audiobook only.

[C]

I do not know of this like

[B]

two Player or Player two or the one with like, He's a Bodyguard, Assassin. And she, like, there's just all. She has all these little novellas. So I want to read those because I love me some.

[A]

I think I read one of hers.

[B]

Did you?

[A]

Yeah, in a little novella. And I was like, why can I only find it online?

[B]

Yeah, they're. Because they're just.

[C]

Was that. Was there a vampire and a vampire hunter one? Was that her?

[B]

Possibly. Yeah. Heart for Slayer or something like that?

[A]

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[C]

Yeah, okay.

[A]

You're right. You read that one, Ellie.

[C]

I love you, girl. Come on, girl.

[A]

Ellie.

[B]

So I do want to read some more little novellas because I probably. Probably fast to get through as well for me.

[A]

And would you count them all as separate books on your thing?

[B]

That's a good question. Would you?

[A]

Yeah, if it's their own body of

[B]

art, you know, piece of work, period.

[C]

I love that. I don't know if I would. Tiny little novellas like that.

[A]

I mean, think of how short poetry books are sometimes.

[C]

I guess so.

[A]

It's not a short story, it's a novella.

[B]

Are you reading poetry books, though?

[C]

I've read some.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Like.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Yeah, good. But I think you can go through them too fast instead of actually taking it in. So I have to really take my time.

[B]

Do like a couple a day.

[C]

Do a couple and put it down or. It's actually good to read with somebody too, because you can discuss.

[B]

Yeah, true. I like that.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Movies or tv? TV that we've loved so far this year.

[C]

Well, I just finished Love Story, guys,

[B]

so she knows what happens. She found.

[C]

So now I know what happens. Very sad.

[A]

Very sad. Ilona and I, at some points we were audibly crying.

[C]

Audibly crying.

[A]

And it was the family's. It was really looking at like Caroline Kennedy, you know, and everything she's gone through. And that actress did a beautiful portrayal of grief. And so did Caroline's mother. And it was just.

[C]

Yeah, I think. Cause it was a real story.

[B]

Right.

[C]

That this had happened to these people. I think I thought it was well done. The show Dre and I did at times feel a little weird knowing, like, the ancestors, people who are actually in the story, are still alive.

[B]

Right, Right.

[C]

And they're.

[A]

People who are portrayed, are still alive.

[C]

Portrayed are still alive. And their lives are for profit in

[A]

some ways, and they're not seeing any of the profit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so much of it is fictionalized, especially, like, all of those private moments. You don't know what the conversations were. It is portraying someone, and it could be completely wrong. Obviously, they consulted many people and they have some things right. But I'm like, I'm watching some of it, and I'm just like, there's no way of knowing, and it feels wrong

[B]

to do some of it. As far as a body of work, I did. You know, the start of it is so, like, as we were to say, like, fun and romantic and very. Almost like sex and the city vibes, their courtship and whatever. And just as the season goes along, it just turns into this, like, you know, bittering kind of thing until obviously, it ends with my sister sobbing in the living room.

[C]

Oh, man.

[B]

But, I mean, the start of it, I think we've been so fixated on this, is this idea of, like, 90s love, and we keep talking about it, especially with our dating woes today, is that if you saw someone that you were interested in, you had to go talk to them because you might not ever see them again. You can find them online. You're not gonna scroll and find somebody beautiful in the next two seconds. So I think that there's also a lot of nostalgia wrapped up in this show, and I think that's why it was so loved. It's this age of no phones, no cell phones, answering machines, and, you know, New York City in that time. So I think the nostalgia of it all was really well done.

[C]

Yeah. I've also been watching the Pit.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

And when I watch the Pit, man, I yearn. I yearn to be in that er. I love the er. I yearn. I'm like a college quarterback wash up at a bar.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Who is like, no, I could have gone to the NFL but hurt my ankle. I'm like, I could have been actually a great doctor, but I had to go to the Olympics.

[B]

You would have been a great doctor.

[C]

I had to dance with the stars. I would have been a great doctor. My. I got went to nursery school because my mom told me was like, it's a good. You can go to nursing school immediately, get a job after college. I was like, okay, perfect. And I love nursing. I have great Bedside manner. I love just chatting to people and getting to, you know, really talk with them. And I was, you know, smart in that way and. But I also wanted to go and be a doctor. I wanted to be Dr. Mary like my grandfather and whatnot. So I never had the chance. Hopefully I get an honorary degree. But I also could go back. I've thought about it. After watching the Pit, I'm like, that could be me.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[C]

I yearn for it. I yearn to help.

[B]

I can't watch medical shows.

[C]

This one is pretty. They do very well.

[B]

That's what I've heard.

[C]

Realistic stuff. Mom, actually, I was watching with Mom. I was like, how. How do you watch this? Is this not your life?

[A]

Are you not clocked in?

[B]

She literally got out of work and came home and watched that.

[C]

Yeah, she says she likes to watch it. And guess what they're gonna do next? She says, oh no, they're gonna do. That's a pneumothorax. Pneumoth. Pneumothorax. I don't know if it sounds in the right room. Yeah. She's like, no, no, that's blah, blah, blah. Or you gotta do this. Our producer was like, huh?

[B]

Oh, I wish I film school.

[C]

She's just like. So I've watched it with her, but no, I've really enjoyed the show. Cause it goes through a day and it's a 12 hour day and each hour is the next one.

[B]

And every episode though is the same day just from like some, like a different hour or something like that.

[C]

Yes, the same day. So it's from 7am to 8am is the first episode, 8am to 9, and then it goes on like that.

[B]

My friend is watching it and she's obsessed with it and she was like, that is my family. Like, like the characters or whatever.

[C]

Right?

[B]

It's.

[C]

And a lot of it is really good. I think they could have more nurse presence in it. They do better the second season. Cuz a lot it's a lot of doctors doing things where that's not really true for like, like doctors will come in for a little bit, do a little bit, but then they go because they have so much other people to see. Whereas nurses are gonna be the main thing. So I'd like to see more come. I'll play a nurse. I could literally be a nurse. I still have my license.

[A]

No, I've been banned from watching the Pit even.

[B]

Banned?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Why?

[A]

I get two hypochondriacs, you know, the same. I can't watch medical stuff. No, I did watch a second with Alona and which we're watching. And I go, that's Tucker. He is gonna be in the deal or off campus. Oh, and I just know him from the fucking cast announcement.

[C]

Just as you told me, this hot nurse is gonna be in one of the hockey shows she likes.

[A]

And I was just like, dre's got

[B]

an eye for these things.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I can spot them. Anyway, did you just watch something?

[B]

And you were like, that was a career. In the second movie of.

[A]

Yeah, we were watching.

[C]

What were we watching? Cheaper by the Dozen 2.

[A]

We were watching Cheaper by the Dozen 2. I haven't confirmed if I'm right or not, but I was like, that's a career in Catching Fire. I can sense it.

[B]

One of the careers.

[A]

One of the careers onto music.

[B]

What music have we been loving?

[A]

I just listened to Ray's album. Oh, yeah. She knows how to write, really. And she knows how to make such almost like a cinematic sound. And I loved it. I thought it was very creative. And I. I think that she also would have never been able to produce this if she wasn't independent because there are so many, like non traditional elements. Like, there's a lot of talking.

[C]

A lot of talking.

[A]

It isn't my favorite. It's not bad. But I think if, since I've only like listened to it once or twice now, that I haven't been able to pick up my favorite songs. And I worry if one of my favorite songs is like a big like interlude of talking. It might be annoying, right? But I do understand that as the art of it. But I really enjoyed it. Her one song, I know you're hurting. I need it as a big. In a coming of age movie or something of like girl who's gonna be okay.

[B]

Oh, love.

[A]

It was such a great movie. I was walking in the park and I was like, I can imagine this scene like, she's figured it out.

[C]

She's gonna be okay.

[A]

And just like a big sweeping sound. It was beautiful.

[B]

I love that. I've been listening to and I can't stop listening to Joshua Sloan. Yeah, that's been my white boy of the past two plus months. Probably loving the album. I first heard like a snippet of his songs on TikTok and it was about like, man, this guy can yearn because those who yearn earn. And like his lyricism is just beautiful. I love it. It's just sounds like being like a teenager in love almost. Or like a young 20s. I mean, anything really. But I just. It Reminds me of, like, times in my life that I just love it and it feels so romantic. And I love his lyrics. I love the way he sounds. I secured tickets. I won the Ticket Master War.

[C]

I messaged him too. What?

[A]

Yeah, period.

[C]

I said, love your stuff. I love one of his songs.

[B]

Which one?

[C]

It's about, like, he says, I know you never had a boyfriend and you might never get me the chance to try. And I like that one. Really spoke to me. I really liked it. I love that he hasn't replied. So that's.

[B]

What the hell. Joshua. Joshua. Anyway, I'll see you in June in la.

[A]

Was it a big Ticket Master War?

[B]

Kinda. It sold out pretty quick, I think, because he posted a video. Being like, I'm driving right now and I probably shouldn't, but just like, thank you guys so much for, like, whatever, so. And I just love that kind of sound, almost that. I don't know if you can call that folky kind of. It's not quite country. It's almost like a Noah Khan vibe.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I dig it a lot.

[C]

I listen to a lot of Ella Langley.

[A]

Yup.

[C]

First off, I feel like we'd be great friends. Yeah. Just her vibe online. She has a good one. Be Her. That's recent. That

[B]

hurts so bad. It hurts so. I just want to be her. I just want to be her so bad.

[C]

Beautiful.

[A]

It hurts so bad.

[C]

Thank you. She. I love her songs. I think she has cool, cool writing. Be Her. I like. If it weren't for the win. But that's an older. That's like a year, you know, older song. I really enjoyed that. I enjoy. I've been listening to some country, like, also Casey Musgraves with a dry spell. That one has spoken to some of us.

[B]

That was really spoken.

[A]

Her album's coming out sometime this year. Excited.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I've loved Casey for a very long time.

[C]

And Noah Khan's album's coming out soon, too. Yeah.

[B]

Very exciting. He tweeted, like, what if you guys been waiting all this time? And the album actually sucks and it's not as good and it's not well received. And somebody responded to him and said, well, the first one wasn't good and it was still well received. And he was like, hell, yeah. Actually, that does make me feel better. Actually kind of makes me feel better.

[A]

I mean, like, based off the first two songs he's put out, I think it's gonna be good.

[B]

It's gonna be good.

[C]

Are those the best songs?

[B]

I like that a lot.

[A]

Well, it's the singles you know, so it's gonna be like maybe the more pop of them. Well, not that he. But like more radio accepted ones. I bet. I'm excited.

[B]

I hope you settle down.

[A]

I hope you marry Rich alone. And I also just discovered it's a year old Ariana Grande song, Dandelion. Oh yeah, you guys put that shit on repeat, Numb.

[C]

Because it feels like old Ariana.

[A]

It's 2019, Ari.

[C]

I love it. Great.

[A]

It starts with kind of weird horns. Ugh, I love it.

[B]

It's got like a jazzy brass intro. But she's. She has a new album coming out that they say is like R B. I won't.

[A]

I won't object to more music.

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

Albums I love Ariana's music have been great. There are some albums that I actually can listen through the whole thing, top to bottom.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Sometimes some of what the light is coming. That one's a little weird. That almost different.

[A]

I even.

[B]

I mean, I liked Eternal Sunshine. I listen to that Top, bottom. I was going through a breakup though, when that came out, so it was a perfect album for me. Keep going.

[A]

Eternal Sunshine wasn't my favorite. Sorry. What you said though, about being able to listen to it all the way through, that's what we're losing as a society is the ability to listen to full bodies of work. As Beyonce said, people only want singles, you know, Like I love to listen to an entire album, you know? Cause it should be cohesive in everything. And there's. I think people are also like limiting themselves if they're only ever listening to singles. And I'm like, if you like that single, chances are you're gonna like what's on the album.

[C]

Good point.

[A]

And listen to it all the way through. I think albums are meant to be listened to all the way through.

[B]

They're a work of art. Like they're made to be a work. Like. That's Joshua Sloan. I listen to that album top to bottom and back again.

[C]

Who do I love?

[B]

She has a lot of songs about Massachusetts.

[A]

Jensen McCrae.

[B]

Jensen McCray. Love her. I listen to that album top to bottom and over again. I love her. She has a song called Let Me Be Wrong. Oh, I love it. It's so good.

[C]

Let's bring back listening to full albums. Because back in the day, you just put your record on, put a CD in, you switch the sides, just have your Walkman. Only one thing downloaded. You had to listen to the album.

[B]

Yeah, that's what we did.

[C]

And ours had to be works of art. You can have any. You didn't want to have any.

[A]

You don't want any Skips, you know?

[B]

No Skips albums. That's what we did in the car with our mom. Our mom would play the Chicks albums from front to back. We know the word. I know the words that every chick song I think. Yeah. Ever. Carrie Underwood as well. Oh, yeah. What else do we listen to? Bunch of Broadway musical soundtracks.

[C]

Legally Blonde, Hairspray.

[B]

Oh, my God. Hairspray.

[A]

What's one no skip album for you?

[B]

I mean, anything Taylor Swift. I will listen.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Top to bottom.

[C]

I'll do Noah Khan.

[A]

Six season.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Easily sixth season. But like six season deluxe with all of the, like, guest singers or.

[C]

No, no. Pure stick season.

[B]

Pure stick season. Maybe I'll allow the Postie song in there.

[C]

Maybe. I went through a time when I really love Post Malone's album.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

I like a lot of Sabrina Carpenter's albums. I'll listen to fully.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

Short and sweet Man's best friend.

[A]

Ungodly hour. Chloe and Halle, I need them to get on their zoom. Get back together.

[B]

You and me.

[A]

And Tuscany's is out. So let's get on our zoom.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Olivia Rodrigo.

[B]

Olivia Rodrigo. Those are easy to go back on. I have Ariana Grande albums completely saved on here. Taylor Swift, like Evermore and Folklore. I can go top to bottom.

[C]

I listened to. One of my favorites was Ash Nico, Demi Devil. I listened to that one.

[A]

That's a good one.

[C]

Top to back.

[B]

Hero Deluxe Edition by Maren Morris. I can do that album top to bottom.

[A]

Native Dreamer, Kit Kin.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Native Dreamer, Kin Joseph.

[B]

Same perfect album.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

There's so many. I could keep going.

[B]

In college I would listen to a lot of Kelsey Ballerini.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you loved.

[B]

I love a little Kelsey Ballerina. I'll tell you what. And Casey Musgrave's albums to close us out.

[C]

Tell me the album from 50 Shades of Gray.

[B]

We were just watching it.

[C]

I mean, they could Danger after banger after banger.

[B]

Someone was on their zoom for that.

[A]

Someone deserves like an Oscar for soundtrack. Like, it is actually incredible.

[C]

Grand.

[B]

Give it to him.

[C]

Those are all works of art, man.

[A]

Love. And also earned it.

[B]

Earned it.

[A]

That was my top song of 2016. I was freaked out high school.

[B]

I was a real freaked out high schooler.

[A]

Stellar.

[B]

I love it. Okay, real quick. Anticipated movies.

[A]

Hunger Games, Sunrise on the Reaping. I didn't read the book. I don't think I'm going to love Hunger Games.

[B]

Love Hunger Games. Oh, that's Casey Musgraves playing from my phone.

[A]

Right now and turn it up.

[B]

And in fact, play that shit louder.

[A]

Oh, we didn't say golden hour.

[B]

I know that there is a. The last Airbender movie coming out in 2026, and it's animated, and it's about the Aang gang, like, in their teenage years.

[C]

I can't get. Is that actually going to happen?

[B]

Apparently, dude.

[C]

Because I don't. I don't want to get my hopes up.

[B]

My hopes are up. So if somebody could please confirm in the. That would be really great.

[A]

My hopes can get up when they have failed time and time again, but

[B]

they failed with live actions. Okay, maybe not failed. Sorry. That's our opinion. We just love the animated stuff. I'm excited. Hopefully that helps.

[A]

I'll give it a go. But also, back to my opinion of where's original content? Give me something new and fresh.

[C]

This could be original, kind of, right?

[A]

Yeah, but it is still, like, they'll

[B]

probably come sourced from the comic book, though.

[A]

Yeah, that's true.

[B]

But, like, this is the one time I'm not mad about original content. Give me this.

[C]

The Mummies Returns. Is that. Is that going to be like a.

[B]

It's coming back to theaters. I think they're going back in theaters

[A]

after they've shut down the ride at Universal. Is it shutting down? You told me that.

[C]

Yeah, I think you told us that.

[B]

Oh, but wait, I don't know if it's official. I think they are.

[A]

She told us that.

[B]

I said they might be.

[A]

You think I've tapped into the Mummy ride?

[B]

Just me starting rumors about rides at Universal. It seems likely. It's old.

[C]

Who knows? Who are we riding and she go down.

[A]

Might be one of the last times.

[B]

Yeah, you just. You never know. You can never be sure with the movie with a ride like that.

[A]

And they probably should, because I went through that and I was like, I do not claim anything in this ride. This feels highly offensive to many cultures.

[B]

Right, right, right, right, right, right, right.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I was like, for that reason, Adrian is calling for it to be closed down.

[A]

Mostly Egyptian, but also they're definitely pulling from other places. You know, they're not staying super authentic here.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Well, should we close out with a little bit of chore wheel?

[B]

We should.

[A]

Yeah, let's just.

[B]

And we have no idea when we pick a chore, what these corresponding tasks are gonna be. Our producer will tell us. So, Ilona. Laundry, dishes, or lighting a candle.

[A]

Sometimes that's all you have time for.

[C]

That's kind of all I do sometimes.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I will do dishes. I've Been doing the dishes recently. Like when you guys come over to eat, then I do dishes.

[B]

You don't put them in the dishwasher.

[C]

Well, I do. Yeah, but then she puts it away.

[B]

Pick a sister and choose a note from her notes app.

[C]

Well, she probably got some fire in there. Notes app.

[A]

I don't know if I've got anything good. Hold on.

[C]

No, I have to pick it.

[A]

I know. I was just double checking.

[B]

No, it's fine.

[C]

Oh, should I click on gift ideas?

[A]

It's just a link. It's also only one thing for.

[C]

I'm not going to open this one because this is her. Oh, yeah, this is her. Her, you know, notes thing, you know. But I feel as if I am unspooling. Whoa, that's kind of deep. And so I. I'm intrigued. I want to know.

[A]

That was a late night. Thought you can open it.

[B]

I feel as though I am unspooling.

[A]

Yeah, it's a metaphor of that. I think that it's like a ball of yarn almost. And that I think the inside dramatic is like, kind of rotten and that the outside is fine. And then like when you slowly are, you know, using the yarn piece, I feed and get closer into the middle. It's like, what's causing you to unspool?

[C]

So dramatic.

[A]

The second date.

[B]

The second date is crossing your mouth.

[C]

This is because of your second date. Guys, this got her up.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Here's another one.

[A]

I feel.

[C]

And guys, I want you to know her notes are just. They're just one line. And that's not.

[B]

That's chaotic.

[C]

Adriana, people who like Frank's hot sauce are the same people who lick their blood when they get cut. What is she saying? I forgot about that.

[A]

That's so. That's good. That is funny.

[C]

Here's her notes app for captions.

[A]

Oh, I got some heat down there.

[C]

Your software slays, by the way.

[A]

That's a quote from plo.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Another caption, by the way, what's all this then?

[A]

What's all this then?

[C]

Well, so.

[B]

No, they cooked with that.

[C]

Her other caption. It's been a Subaru summer. It's funny in here. She is.

[A]

She's.

[B]

You know, I called dad in December and I said, so, what's up? He's like, what? I was like, are you not going to wish me a happy holidays? Or like, is that just on me? You thought that shit was so funny, Jay, you're.

[C]

You had some funny stuff in here.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

But back to the Franks and the blood thing, because sometimes Frank's has got, like, a certain metallic flavor to it. I love it. So it is kind of a self read.

[B]

All right, Dre, laundry or lighting a candle?

[A]

Laundry.

[B]

Pick a sister and reveal a photo from her photo app.

[C]

Toss it,

[A]

donkey bell.

[C]

There's a lot in there.

[B]

I have a lot. I need to go clean that up.

[A]

How should I do? Should I just.

[B]

I'll scroll up and then go back down and then go back up and then I have a lot.

[A]

She takes a lot.

[B]

You're probably just in the last week.

[A]

Oh, actually, no. I made it to the top. Scared.

[B]

Why? What is it?

[A]

Oh, no. She's like, gaunt almost.

[C]

Oh, my God, she's fading away.

[B]

Eat a burger.

[C]

So what we're looking at, guys, is a photo. Oh, my goodness.

[A]

Honey, wine journals.

[C]

This is from 2020. And she's probably a size 2.

[A]

I.

[B]

Not. Not possible. But yeah, I was tinier when I moved to New York City. She is. Or I'd been there. Pretty thin. There was no.

[C]

There's no.

[B]

Like, I need a belt for those jeans. Dog crazy. I just was that New York City, poundland, pavements, lifestyle, eggs and yogurt. No, literally, eggs and yogurt. I didn't eat much.

[A]

I could get to New York for my college, and so I'd spend like, spring break at Liv's. And the way her fridge was just like. It was eggs and like, she would get yogurts just for me. She was like. Cause I know you, like, need to eat breakfast.

[B]

What was I eating?

[A]

Air.

[C]

The fuck.

[B]

I didn't have money when I lived there.

[A]

That's why.

[C]

So now you got money and you.

[B]

We eat good, we be good. As evidenced by me. That was my first ever journal workshop that I was hosting in New York City the day before COVID shut down the city. And I thought I spent all this money that I could have been spending on food, on journaling workshop supplies. And then Covid stopped that. And I only ever hosted one journal workshop.

[A]

But it was successful.

[B]

But it was successful. So maybe I'll bring that back, love.

[C]

And also, I say we talk about bodies all the time, but, like, to us, we just thought, we know there's different seasons of life.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So that was our girl. She was a little bit much leaner, and she's now beautiful.

[B]

She lives inside me somewhere.

[A]

She lives inside you somewhere.

[C]

And so does enjoying life.

[B]

Oh, I tell you what.

[C]

And you got a lot of stories

[A]

for that gay character, because this person is happier and more in your body

[B]

than I. I was quite happy there, too. Pretty in my body, I was actively having sex. I don't know, you know, pretty cool time in my life. Pretty sick.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Miss her.

[C]

Olivia.

[B]

I'm just kidding. So I guess I'm gonna light a candle.

[A]

All right, Olivia, share your last three Google searches.

[B]

John Myers. John Myers. Because I was thinking about his tactics in the early 2000s on dating. Because our dad famously does not like him, right? Like I remember from the young age, dad was like, no, that guy's awful. I've heard like, he's just like, heard all the stories that he. He would have like a date with Jennifer Aniston and he would call the paps to like be there to photograph them together. He was just like, not a good dude. So I think I was looking him up. John Mayer. John Mayer. I have sandlot cast. Because the. The guy who played I think ham was behind me in line at the post office. And then when I turned around, I was like, why do I know that middle aged man's face? And then I literally went the sandlot and looked it up and it was him. And then I have. Why does music pause Randomly on AirPod Max? Because I'll be cleaning my house with my AirPod Max is on.

[C]

And then it just pauses the music

[B]

constantly, every other second.

[A]

Probably can't feel your small ears in there.

[B]

Oh, ain't that freaking true? And then I also have. Is it too deep or too deep as in T o o deep or t o deep?

[C]

You could ask one of us.

[B]

I know, but I knew it was T o o. But then I get these crazy things in my head where I'm like, do I not actually know? So then I just google it really quick.

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

And notice I said yeah. And then I'm always looking for memes and this one says, surprised, pursed lips, meme excited. I couldn't find it. That's cause Alona invited me to dinner and that's what I wanted to respond with. But then I couldn't find it, so.

[A]

So yeah, Olivia, thank you for sharing your heart.

[B]

Thank you all for sharing.

[A]

Thanks so much for coming over to the House of Mar a Wave original.

[C]

Be sure to watch subscribe on YouTube and listen wherever you podcast.

[B]

Plus follow the show on social media ousofmar for clips and behind the scenes content.

[A]

We'll see you next time.

[C]

Bye.

[B]

This was fun, guys. We should do this again soon. Love you.

[C]

Bye,

[A]

Sam.