Dre Gets REAL & We Answer Your Unhinged Questions

Summary

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House of Maher

Host: Wave
Episode: Dre Gets REAL & We Answer Your Unhinged Questions
Date: July 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant, candid episode of House of Maher, the Maher sisters—Olympic rugby star Ilona Maher, viral “Girl Dinner” creator Olivia Maher, and human rights advocate Adrianna “Dre Baby” Maher—let loose over snacks and endless sisterly banter. Together, they explore the nuanced realities of body image, family expectations, going viral, sibling dynamics, and answer a series of “unhinged” audience questions. Amidst playful teasing and heartfelt moments, listeners are treated to real conversations about loving your body, reclaiming individuality, and finding joy (and embarrassment) in unexpected places.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Family Rituals & “House Rules”

• Dinner Table Etiquette:
  • The sisters recount hilarious anecdotes about guests not greeting their mother before eating at family dinners. Respect for the matriarch is non-negotiable.
    • [Adriana, 01:50]: “If that was my boyfriend, I’d be like, put your plate down. Get on your knees before the matriarch over here. Say hello. Then you may eat...”
• House Rules:
  • Girls are magic, reading is hot, and hydration is essential—these and other cheeky “house rules” are recited with warmth and humor.
    • [Ilona, 03:01]: “Girls are magic.”
    • [Adriana, 03:02]: “Reading is hot and so are you.”

Snacks, Supplements, and Sports Fuel

• Gummy Snacks Debate:
  • The sisters debate favorite workout snacks—Skittles, gummy bears, gummy worms, and Trader Joe’s Scandinavian Swimmers all get mentions.
    • [Ilona, 03:55]: “It’s a texture thing too. The texture on them is immaculate.”
• Body, Allergies & Mango Mishaps:
  • Ilona shares a bizarre allergic reaction related to mango skins’ similarity to poison ivy.
    • [Ilona, 07:06]: “I was releasing [this oil] all over my mouth...if I buy them pre-cut by like my fruit man in my neighborhood, I’m all good to go.”

Athletic Life, Body Image, and Identity

• Returning to Rugby:
  • Adriana opens up about her hope to return to competitive rugby and the challenge of regaining “Olympic shape.”
    • [Adriana, 08:08]: “Hopefully I’m back in rugby...my goal is to play in the series this year, the Seven Series...”
• Seasons of the Body:
  • The sisters discuss how an athlete’s body changes and the mindset swings that follow.
    • [Adriana, 09:06]: “[I’m] in great shape, but I’m not in the shape that is sevens conducive...I will get leaner...as I get into rugby again...I will be leaning out.”
• Body Appreciation vs. Performance Pressure:
  • Adriana acknowledges being celebrated as a body-positive icon, but admits there are negative side effects—the focus on physical function and fitness can lead to self-doubt.
    • [Adriana, 11:12]: “My issue is that my body...I always think of it in terms of how well would it do on the field...It would be like not being as fit or not being as fast...That’s where I have the issue.”

Sibling Dynamics & Emotional Honesty

• Comparisons and Childhood Roles:
  • Olivia shares how comparisons to her sisters affected her relationship with sports and body image.
    • [Olivia, 22:03]: “I cannot do it around you guys, because it puts me back in that little sister role...People showed up for you guys differently in sports than they did for me.”
• Validation and Sibling Support:
  • Ilona reflects on feeling the need to excel in sports as a way to validate her parents’ efforts, and Adriana discusses how athletic achievement became her social currency.
    • [Ilona, 26:33]: “Repaying mom and dad for all the hard work that they did in raising us was like being good at the things they paid money for us to be a part of.”
    • [Adriana, 25:50]: “So what did it for me was that instead of being just like, I guess, a loser with no friends, it was like, oh, she’s very good at sports.”

Independence and Living in Different Cities

• Why Not Live Together?
  • Adriana and Olivia discuss why Dre shouldn’t move in with her sisters in LA, emphasizing the importance of forging her own identity and social circle.
    • [Adriana, 33:59]: “I think you need to be your own person, wherever you are...when you’re with us...you slink back to the background. I think you need to be someplace far from us...”
    • [Olivia, 36:06]: “New York is just for me...some people bring out different things in you and that’s who you are around them.”

“Unhinged” Mailbag Q&A (Tea Time)

• On Starting Rugby at 30:
  • Encouragement for adult beginners:
    • [Olivia, 47:33]: “Rugby can start at any time, anytime. Laura. Get in there.”
• Favorite Sibling & Family Dynamics:
  • A playful debate about parental and grandparental “favorites” that always lands with love and understanding.
    • [Adriana, 32:30]: “I think maybe it’s who they connect the most with. You and mom connect very well. You and dad connect very well...”
• Deleting Books off Kindle if You Died:
  • The sisters laugh about their spicy or embarrassing romance reads and the urgent need to “delete evidence.”
    • [Olivia, 38:32]: “I need you to delete my Amazon account.”
• Polyamory & Ethical Non-Monogamy:
  • A discussion of meeting polyamorous people and misunderstanding dating-app terminology, filled with curiosity and amusement.
• Sex Life Oversharing:
  • On setting boundaries for what sisters and friends share:
    • [Ilona, 50:41]: “I am an oversharer to be sure because I think we talk about this a lot. I love the connection points and it’s like other people go through insane things too.”

Vulnerable & Joyful Moments

• Childhood Regression and Identity:
  • Reflecting on how spending lots of time together sometimes triggers “regression” into childhood roles—regressing, squabbling, but deep down, loving being together.
    • [Ilona, 56:05]: “It’s also the thing of you can’t miss somebody if they’re right there...distance does make the heart grow fonder...”
    • [Olivia, 57:19]: “It is regressing sometimes into like our younger selves and we can get very sharp with one another...”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Genuine Support:
  • [Ilona, 47:49]: “If you want to feel wanted? Join a rugby program.”
• On Remaining a Virgin at 30:
  • [Adriana, 51:37]: “At least something’s eating you.”
  • [Ilona, 51:55]: “Dick is abundant and low value.”
  • [Adriana, 52:19]: “It could happen anytime.”
• Bookish Confessions:
  • [Ilona, 38:45]: “The Minotaur, Milking Farm, Romance.”
  • [Olivia, 39:27]: “Pucking Around. And she is the team doctor. That’s disgusting. But it’s a...male-male-femme.”
• Family Laughter:
  • [Adriana, 54:05]: “‘That was fucking dumb.’ — Ilona Maher”
• Being Grateful:
  • [Ilona, 57:47]: “I’m trying to operate through just gratefulness at all times. It’s just like a practice of it. It’s like, how lucky am I?”

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Important Timestamps

• [01:50] – Adriana’s dinner table anecdote & House Rules
• [03:55] – Gummy snacks debate
• [07:06] – Ilona’s mango skin allergy story
• [08:08] – Dre on returning to rugby
• [11:12] – Body image & performance pressure
• [22:03] – Olivia on sports, comparisons, body image
• [25:50] – Dre finds self-worth through sports
• [33:59] – On not living together, supporting independence
• [36:06] – New York is Olivia’s “diary”
• [47:33] – Encouragement for starting rugby at 30
• [50:41] – Oversharing about sex with friends/sisters
• [51:37] – Advice for a 30-year-old virgin
• [56:05] – Gratefulness, sibling closeness & healthy boundaries
• [57:57] – Book Nook: What the sisters are reading

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Book Nook – Current Reads

• Ilona: Yesteryear (Tall Tales Book Club) – “You want to hate her...so I’m curious where it’s gonna go from here.”
• Olivia: Pretty Little Shadow – “Oh, she’s a vampire, he’s a Fae king...it was fun, it was easy.”
• Comments on the appeal of audiobooks, different voice actors, and noise-cancelling headphones for immersive reading.

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Tone & Vibe

Warm, unscripted, and frequently hilarious. The sisters swing effortlessly between deep vulnerability and pure silliness, balancing sharp banter with genuine affection. Their playful teasing never overshadows the authentic support and care they display for one another. The episode captures the joy, frustration, and comfort of sisterhood in all its messy glory.

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For New Listeners

This episode is rich with inside jokes, honest confessions, and wisdom wrapped in humor—perfect for anyone seeking comfort in candid, intelligent sisterly company. You’ll laugh, nod along, and maybe find a little healing, too.

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Transcript

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[Adriana]

A couple years ago, we were having dinner and one of my friends bought her boyfriend and who knows? My mom. He just started filling his plate like. And my mom was like, oh, hey, I didn't know you were here. That was my boyfriend. I'd be like, put your plate down. Get on your Knees before the matriarch over here. Say hello. Then you may eat. Actually better yet, go around, say hi to everybody.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

Then after you they need anything, then you get some food and afterwards you're saying thank you and you're seeing what else you can do. And then one time in college you did have.

[Olivia]

I can't talk about that. You know that haunts me. Those weren't my friends.

[Adriana]

Those weren't friends. It's not reflection on you. No, you don't know what that.

[Olivia]

I can't even talk about that like it's haunting actually. Cuz you guys haven't let it go. And I remember being in this situation

[Adriana]

being like they're never going to let this go. Welcome or welcome back to House of Mawr. A wave original hydrated by liquid iv. Put on your cleats and help yourself to whatever is in the cooler. The wifi password is back. Underscore it all caps. You should know we few house rules

[Ilona]

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[Adriana]

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[Olivia]

Alona's wearing jorts.

[Ilona]

She's wearing jorts and she just ate a butt ton of strawberry peppers. And her tongue meme this.

[Adriana]

Make a meme out of this.

[Ilona]

She's got evidence of it. It's crazy.

[Adriana]

I love red 40 and I'm say on this podcast, Skittles. I love them. I love them.

[Ilona]

She does Shower Starbucks.

[Adriana]

I love them.

[Ilona]

That's your quick carb when you're working out.

[Olivia]

RFK's nightmare.

[Adriana]

I feel like I. I think I eat them rarely when I work out. I do like for games I'll eat gummies. But in. In life I just enjoy.

[Ilona]

I got to get into like switching up in my runs, not just eating like gels and stuff, but I got to start adding some gummies. You know what? I love the Trader Joe's. Like what is the Scandinavian swimmers.

[Adriana]

Oh, those are good ones.

[Ilona]

It's a texture thing too. The texture on them is immaculate. You don't like those ones?

[Olivia]

I'm very weird about gummies.

[Ilona]

What?

[Olivia]

Or candy.

[Ilona]

Have you had these ones?

[Olivia]

Yes, I have.

[Ilona]

They're not Scandinavian gummy. Like they are not Swedish gummy. I don't really mess with skin.

[Olivia]

The only gummies I really like is gonna be sour gummy worms and maybe an occasional gummy bear.

[Ilona]

I have a fat bag of these at my house. You need to try they are.

[Olivia]

No, I've had them. Olivia. I just don't mess with gummies or candy like that.

[Adriana]

I bought sour patch when we were in England. It wasn't the same. I think it was too natural.

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[Ilona]

Yeah, they. They removed some of the best stuff.

[Olivia]

The red 40.

[Adriana]

It tastes out like blue 30. This isn't my sour patch.

[Ilona]

Are you guys on amoxicillin?

[Olivia]

Biscuit?

[Ilona]

Tik tok.

[Adriana]

What?

[Olivia]

It's this, like, boy went over to someone's house, and mom was like, are you allergic to anything?

[Ilona]

He wanted to stay for dinner. So the mom was asking this kid, are you allergic to anything?

[Olivia]

And he goes, amoxicillin.

[Ilona]

No. She was like. He was like. She was like, can you have this? And he was like, yeah. Like, you have pasta. He's like, yeah. Can you eat biscuits? He was like, yeah, I'm allergic to amoxicillin. Like. Like last minute. Now everyone on the Internet is like, when they serve the amoxicillin biscuits or, like, it's good.

[Olivia]

And which one is moxicillin Alona?

[Adriana]

It's an antibiotic, but I don't know specifics.

[Ilona]

What does it do to know?

[Adriana]

I don't know. Something does something.

[Ilona]

Is it a cousin of penicillin?

[Adriana]

That sounds smart.

[Ilona]

Huh?

[Olivia]

Maybe we could look it up, you know who.

[Ilona]

Computer.

[Olivia]

Computer. Show me this.

[Ilona]

Google. Show me this guy's balls. Amoxicillin is a widely prescribed penicillin class

[Adriana]

antibiotic used to treat bacteria, infections.

[Olivia]

Utis.

[Ilona]

It works by killing bacteria and stopping their growth, but it is entirely ineffective against viral illnesses like the common cold or flu.

[Adriana]

I sometimes have problems with antibiotics.

[Ilona]

Oh, what do you mean by that?

[Adriana]

Irritation from them.

[Ilona]

Irritation where?

[Adriana]

Allergic reaction. Well, I. When I was younger, there's something that I'm allergic to that.

[Ilona]

What?

[Adriana]

I had when I was younger. And then recently when I had surgery, I got C. Diff.

[Olivia]

As you.

[Adriana]

But then I also got my antibiotics for C. Diff, and I got a rash all over my chest.

[Ilona]

Whoa.

[Adriana]

So I'm gonna be that kid.

[Ilona]

Damn.

[Adriana]

I'm at a restaurant. Is there any allergies here? Just amoxicillin. Do that and any of the.

[Ilona]

Are those in your biscuits by any.

[Adriana]

You should start naming the most Rand things at restaurants. What they say, do you have any dietary restrictions?

[Ilona]

And it's just a waiter high out of their mind.

[Adriana]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Olivia]

Fever grass.

[Ilona]

Just stuff like that.

[Olivia]

Are you allergic to anything?

[Ilona]

Sometimes the sticky part of band aids.

[Olivia]

Oh, aspartame.

[Adriana]

Don't make her look farther into that.

[Ilona]

Aspartame. Interesting. Yes. Also the skin of mangoes.

[Olivia]

Oh, I was. I recently gotten into mangoes. And I'm really scared of the skin because I remember during COVID when your mouth started to.

[Ilona]

I ate like it's not my own fault. I ate like 12 mangoes within a 30 hour block. Cause they were so good. And our mom got the big thing from Costco and I'm like, she's in there like swimming those things like off of the. Off of the skin. I'm like scraping it with my teeth. You know what I mean?

[Olivia]

She's reaching beaches they've never even heard of.

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Whoa.

[Ilona]

Like I'm in there like swimwear and my mouth starts breaking in, all these bumps and like a rash around my mouth. And we had no idea what the hell was going on. And I took to the Internet and

[Adriana]

it took some digging.

[Ilona]

Like I did some because I didn't know that my brain was never like, oh, it's the mangoes. Clearly I just did lots of stuff. And then I ended up typing in what I was feeling and then anything I had been eating and I typed in mangoes. And apparently there's an oil in the skins of mangoes that is related to or a cousin of poison ivy. So I was releasing that all over my mouth. And it still happens when I eat mangoes. But if I buy them pre cut by like my fruit man in my neighborhood, I'm all good to go.

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That's what I'm saying.

[Olivia]

I'm so sorry to get me through that.

[Ilona]

Thank you.

[Olivia]

Wow.

[Ilona]

It's like being me. Anyway, group chat.

[Adriana]

Let's get into what's going on with us and online in the group chat. Today's group chat is presented by Facebook, which makes sense because we literally have our own family group chat in Facebook messenger.

[Olivia]

Two of them.

[Ilona]

We really do.

[Olivia]

Later in this episode, we're going to get into some questions submitted by you. But first, at the top of this alona, we have to address will we be seeing you on the pitch soon?

[Adriana]

I mean, I hope so. I'm always using the term. Hopefully I'm back in rugby I training again. So, you know, it's all about becoming and getting back to the teammate, the player that I was, the fitness that I was. So I never say yes because I hope I get selected for a tournament. I hope I am good enough to continue to represent. But yeah, it's my goal too. And it's my goal to play in the the series this year, the seven series. And I think it'll be a cool opportunity to spread rugby even more because my fans, you know, don't fully know me from rugby as much they know it from dance with the star. But getting into the Seventh circuit and show them a little bit more of what that's about because it's very exciting form on like, I think 15s was a little bit harder to show all of me and the excitement that comes from it. So I'm looking. I hope so. Big words, hope too.

[Ilona]

And you say the shape you were. I think you are in fantastic shape. You work out constantly in this off time.

[Adriana]

I'm in great, good shape, but I'm not in the shape that is sevens like conducive. Like I could play a game, but it's not like Olympic shape. I see like the amount of running that it will take. My goal is. It's interesting because, you know, I'm always about loving yourself. And something that will naturally happen is actually happening is I'm running so much that I will get leaner and then I will like, in a way I need to lose fat because I need to be able to be as fast and fit as possible on the field. So it's different when I'm just getting up off the ground with say more. More like lean mass on me versus Leslie. So it's very interesting that our body will go through phases and as I get into rugby again, I will be leaning out, I will be going back to a different state. But I think to me we have all four states of our body. Yeah, that's my rugby state, that's my sevens Olympic state. I think this, the form that I was in this past year off was like a natural, more natural form for me. But even then I was working out a ton. So I think it's gonna be an interesting change in body. It's gonna be, you know, everything's changing. I think I'm growing as a person, as a player. I'm one of the oldest out there. I've been, you know, two Olympics now. I've been through a lot and I've done a lot for myself in this past couple years since the Olympics. So I'm excited to see how things change. And if, you know, I think I'm more interested if I am happy. And I think I've been trying to find happiness this past year and if that's like. If rugby will bring that to me.

[Ilona]

Yeah, absolutely. In a way, it's interesting what you say about seasons of your body and life and whatever. And you go through so many more seasons than I think the normal person. Just cause of levels of fitness. Obviously that strengthened your mindset around it because you are known as such a body appreciative warrior or whatever. Hashtag Brave. But does that also have negative effects? Like, does it also like you get tripped up though still too right.

[Adriana]

I think my issue is that my body. I always think of it in terms of how well would it do on a field. So I actually don't really mind that I'm bigger. I don't mind that I'm thicker. I have problems with my. It would be like not being as fit or not being as fast. That's where I have the issue. So I'm Trips me up because I want to function a certain way, even though I love when I'm in a different phase of life. But it does. I mean, I. I deal with my own body images issues and I'm a big proponent of it that like,

[Christie]

what

[Adriana]

is it you're capable of? And rugby allows me to do that. But I also want to do rugby so well. And I also want to be known as a strong athlete. I've also made my brand strong so I would never. I feel now that I have to continue to be look and be strong. Which look. Which being strong requires a lot of eating and keeping on the muscle on a tall frame like mine requires exponential amounts of protein and carbs, which I don't think sometimes people realize, like to. To keep this up. So I don't know. It's very interesting. It's. I care more about what I can do in the field. So that's where it gets me.

[Olivia]

When you're talking about that, you know or not at the fitness level that you'll need to be at. Do you have an idea in your mind of how long it's gonna take to almost get there?

[Adriana]

It'll take some time. I imagine it'll take, like to get to where I was. I don't. At least five months.

[Ilona]

Okay.

[Adriana]

But it's really the good thing is I've kept my strength up.

[Olivia]

We know that grip strength is good. You did that test.

[Adriana]

My grip strength is good.

[Olivia]

Best one on the team.

[Adriana]

Yeah, I've kept my strength up. The biggest issue thing for me is like leaning out in terms of fat. And when I say that it's not getting skinny, it's again, it's taking off unnecessary weight. When it comes to how fast is that transition on the pitch, how fast can I get up and make another tackle? Because there is a difference. And my dietitian, I work very closely to, you know, we do body comps to see what's the best weight I need to be at. How do I feel? What is my fitness testing me showing? Should I be going Leaner or whatnot. So it's not like you're ever going to see a dramatic change. Me, but I lean out and lose weight in a way for the purpose of playing.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

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[Adriana]

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[Ilona]

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[Adriana]

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[Olivia]

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[Adriana]

Whoa.

[Ilona]

Kind of sounds though like you're coming for my brand because I love Facebook marketplace. You guys know my like whole apartment is outfitted and things that I have.

[Adriana]

You are always searching on there.

[Ilona]

It's been clutch for my moves too. I've sold some of my own clothes which is basically like sharing hand me downs. I love imagining what adventures my favorite jeans are having with someone else.

[Adriana]

That's a great point. One time I bought these, you know, I didn't have a bedside table for A while.

[Ilona]

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[Adriana]

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[Olivia]

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[Ilona]

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[Ilona]

I haven't said this on here yet, but I am running another marathon. Yes, I'm running the Sydney marathon and

[Olivia]

I'm 11 seconds away from getting a 10 minute mile. I know we're all curious. Am I incredibly embarrassed it's taking this long?

[Christie]

Yeah.

[Ilona]

But you're not really like applying yourself though. I don't think you can be embarrassed. And also like.

[Adriana]

Well, you also have very weird ideas about how to rely on.

[Ilona]

Oh yeah, I only recently heard about this. Can you explain what?

[Adriana]

Well, I'm gonna start my mile on an uphill so that I can end the mile on a downhill or something like that. And I was like, what are you talking about? When you take PRs of things, you run it on flat. So you run the mile on a flat.

[Ilona]

What is that it's my own personal.

[Olivia]

It only has to make sense to me.

[Adriana]

You know, I think that's where you're at.

[Olivia]

Here's my thing is that I have so much more energy at the beginning. So I'm like, if I push through and like I can go on a slight incline at the beginning, I'll. You know, I still have a solid speed. And then I'm so tired at my end of my. Because I'm putting in so much energy that it's like, it feels, it's like a cheat code because then I'm going downhill to make up for how tired I am. Here's the thing is that if the elevation equals out, it doesn't matter because if it ends up like.

[Adriana]

You're just wrong, man.

[Olivia]

If I climb the same amount as then I decline. I'm fine. What are you saying? This is my, my rule. I went into this with this because this is what I did last time when I tried to get my mile time under 10 minutes and I did that and it worked right. So that's what I'm doing again. And I. So I cried actually, or I almost cried because I was like, this is it. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get my mile. And then I just kind of took the wrong starting point on my run. So then I backtracked. But then I was like, let me still try. And it was, it was so tough because I was like 11 seconds. I was like, I was so. And because I, I took a like a slight walking break because I was so tired and I was like, if I just didn't have done, if I didn't do that, then I would have made it.

[Adriana]

Obviously.

[Olivia]

Coulda, woulda, shoulda, yada, yada. And I'm like, at least it's just continuing this journey.

[Ilona]

I think.

[Adriana]

What, I'm just gonna go out with you.

[Ilona]

No, let me go out.

[Adriana]

You're gonna hit a nine minute mile.

[Ilona]

That's what I'm saying. We're hitting nine minutes.

[Adriana]

If I were to run with you, you'. And we're going flat. We're going on a flat surface and we're just running from until that timer says one mile. And we're stopping, but you're also not

[Ilona]

stopping and then starting like we're gonna do half a mile at, at an easy pace.

[Olivia]

Easy pace.

[Adriana]

She doesn't want to do puffing and puffing. Maybe a quarter of a mile.

[Ilona]

That's what I'm saying. You can't just start and stop though. It's like, you gotta start my warm

[Olivia]

up is my walk over. I don't. The way my body is. Is not the way your body is. I think you're.

[Ilona]

You're telling me.

[Adriana]

I know, but you're not.

[Ilona]

You're not using PR's rest.

[Adriana]

And that's a. That's in terms of everybody's body, you know. But I mean, she's like, you just

[Olivia]

gotta have an easy place to start with. I'm like, if you want me to run even a quarter of a mile, like, I'm like, all my energy is going. Like, I'm just.

[Adriana]

Yeah, that's why I'm saying we're doing it right.

[Ilona]

We're watching you on that first point.

[Adriana]

She's not like that.

[Olivia]

Can't do that.

[Adriana]

We're walking to that start. We're literally running until it says a mile and that's the time we're taking.

[Ilona]

Also saying, like, she's not training for this. She's literally just going, you know what? It's been two weeks. Let me try again today.

[Adriana]

Like, so what a man thing to do.

[Olivia]

I feel like, you know, I just don't like running.

[Adriana]

Do you feel like with exercise and with like sports like that. Evie, you're still kind of like the younger self of like dad would always push you to do it. So you're still rebelling.

[Olivia]

No.

[Ilona]

Stubborn.

[Adriana]

Or is it now that she's at her and I are pushing you to do it. So you're rebelling.

[Olivia]

How do you mean by rebelling?

[Adriana]

Not rebelling, but, you know, like, dad will always be like, you have to do this. You have to do this. And you were kind of like, no,

[Ilona]

you would find a way to just sort of like push back a.

[Adriana]

And so now like Olivia's like, run, go around with me, go around with me. Is it still like yourself?

[Olivia]

We are at different fitness levels.

[Ilona]

Right. You know, and I'm asking you to

[Adriana]

be at whatever level.

[Olivia]

Yeah, but it's too. It's an. It's so embarrassing for her.

[Ilona]

It's not embarrassing.

[Olivia]

The thing is like. Yeah, you're saying that I cannot run with that.

[Adriana]

I think that's your own thing you're also dealing with though, too.

[Olivia]

Yeah, I just like. Because this self hatred that creeps in. Like, if. If you're going at a pace. Yeah. Going at a pace that I like, I'm like, I can't do this. Cause I'm like, oh.

[Ilona]

Mm.

[Olivia]

I'm like in my brain, I'm like, fatty, fatty, fatty. I can't like we went on that one round, and you were just like, no, I don't like the way you're smelling it. No, I'm sorry.

[Ilona]

This is me genuinely.

[Olivia]

Yeah, keep going and drowning.

[Adriana]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

And it's just like, so I. I exercise by myself now. I don't demonize it or I don't have the same view as, like, when I was a kid, but it's like, I cannot do it around you guys because it puts me back in that little sister role that I'm like, this just has independent activity.

[Ilona]

Right? Hey. Right.

[Adriana]

And actually, why you should watch on YouTube. Adrana teared up there.

[Ilona]

That was beautiful.

[Adriana]

Share More JJ yeah, I don't know.

[Olivia]

It's just like, I've always been the. I like sports. Growing up, I didn't, like, our parents push to do it, and it made me kind of like, you know, push back and ruined a lot of sports for me. And I also realized, like, I've been the bigger one out of all of us, you know? And, like, growing up, like, you guys were the captains and the this and the that, and I was always just like, and I'm here, and I don't really want to do that. And it's like, I still knew that I was talented, but it was just never shown. And so, like, that creeps into. It's a whole mixed bag of things that I'm just like, when it comes to sports and you guys, like, when it comes to comparing us, I can't do it. And I know it's such, like, a. In the grand scheme of things, it shouldn't be the biggest thing, but it's just, like, it brings me back to childhood, and I can't do it. People showed up for you guys differently in sports than they did for me. And I know a lot of that is because of how I treated sports, but it still wasn't nice to see.

[Ilona]

There's also, like, I think, a difference in sports, too. Like, our parents think of certain sports as, like, real sports. Do you know what I mean? Like, team sports. The things that you're, like, active or whatever. And, like, dad was a thrower in track and field, too, but, like, to them, that's like, you know, so that's probably why she kind of. Not that I'm making excuses for mom,

[Olivia]

but, like, no, she just fully forgot. Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah.

[Ilona]

But, like, that's. I think they just want the best.

[Olivia]

The practices I was doing was crazy. Like, I remember our drills and all this. Like, I was still. I was very. I was a different kind of fit. But it was like, I was still putting in the same amount of work for it, but it just, like, wasn't seen. Yeah. And so I don't. I think a lot of it does also come back to my body of, like, I've always been the bigger one out of the three of us. And, like, you know, we've even gotten comments from our family members or, like. And so that just, like, it compounds that, like, now as an adult, and I'm happy where I am, but if you want to compare me, like, physically to you guys, ugh.

[Ilona]

I think it's not tough because, like, we are made of the same stuff, but in different ways, of course. But, like, we see you when we know that you can do it, and I think that's not, like, frustrating for us, but also kind of where I think our energy is kind of like, come on, Dre, we know you can do it. Like, you got it. But you just had a different approach to things that we couldn't understand because we subscribed to it. And we did put a lot of our self worth in the sports that we played and how good we were at them. And I'm sad I never got to try theater or to do other kind of things outside of it, but I am who I am, and I'm good at being who I am because of the sports that I played. But you are good at what you do because you did rebel against it and learn to do your own thing.

[Olivia]

But it was only half assed because I still had to have one foot in.

[Adriana]

Maybe there is a Facebook group for young. Young sisters who.

[Ilona]

Support group for young sisters.

[Adriana]

Support group for young sisters. Have you thought of that?

[Olivia]

Chubby Young sisters with athletics. Older sisters.

[Ilona]

There it is.

[Olivia]

You should go into her house.

[Adriana]

It's like calling all.

[Olivia]

It's a hall of fame of their newspaper clippings. I swear to God.

[Adriana]

But. And that's where Olivia and I got our worth. And that's not right. I'm not saying that's right. That's how I didn't. Okay, one thing, one big difference is Adjana was very good at making friends.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

So Adriana has. Do you disagree?

[Ilona]

No.

[Adriana]

She was very good at making friends. She, like, had parties in high school. I could not make friends. I really did not have a lot of friends until I would even say playing professional rugby. And I figured it out. So, like, to me, the only way I could get validation and people would feel that respect was through the sporting accomplishments, because I literally did not have friends to hang out with in High school, in middle school as well. So it was like. And even college. So what did it for me was that instead of being just like, I guess, a loser with no friends, it was like, oh, she's very good at sports. She doesn't have any friends, but people respect her. So I do think that that was a crutch for me of could not connect with people. And I knew that people valued me because I was really good at what I did.

[Ilona]

I think that was really deep. That's a really good point. Thank you. This sounds weird to say, but, like, repaying mom and dad for all the hard work that they did in raising us was like being good at the things they paid money for us to be a part of. You know, like, all the gear they bought and the practices and the leagues they put us into, it's like, well, the least I can do is be good at it. And not like, you know, yeah, I think I put weight on that myself. Was like a repayment. Like, kind of like a. Not a guilt, but maybe a classic oldest sibling kind of thing of like, oh, sorry. You know, can we get a Facebook

[Adriana]

support group for oldest siblings?

[Ilona]

I bet there is. Let's pull one up.

[Adriana]

It probably is.

[Ilona]

What's mine called?

[Olivia]

Just eldest daughters.

[Ilona]

Eldest daughters seeking Wanting to be baby girls. Super support.

[Adriana]

Seeking super, super support.

[Ilona]

Elder daughters.

[Adriana]

And it's just everybody giving recommendations to everyone in there. Yeah.

[Ilona]

Damn. What's Alona's support group called? Alona's Facebook support group is called.

[Olivia]

It's probably just her fan page. Alona Mar.

[Ilona]

Middle kid with attitude. Middle kid. Middle problems with attitude.

[Olivia]

Middle children playing angry, angry animals.

[Ilona]

Get that part, please.

[Adriana]

No, leave it. I love angry. For those who don't know, I had anger problems and I've since solved it. But I would angry, angry animals with my therapist.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

And I'm very chill. I don't get angry often.

[Ilona]

It worked.

[Adriana]

It worked.

[Ilona]

Yeah. You can do it.

[Adriana]

Say anything to me. I won't get angry.

[Olivia]

Just kidding.

[Ilona]

Don't.

[Adriana]

Dre.

[Christie]

Liv.

[Adriana]

How do you guys normally get your protein in?

[Ilona]

I like eggs, chicken.

[Olivia]

Chicken breast sliced thin.

[Ilona]

Oh, now we're talking.

[Olivia]

Specifically when dad cuts it for me.

[Adriana]

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[Ilona]

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[Olivia]

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[Ilona]

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[Adriana]

Honestly that made me want some real quick. So let me just take a It's perfect when you need something quick and it actually keeps you going.

[Olivia]

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[Ilona]

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[Adriana]

Muscle Milk Protein for All Sisters we need a mid summer check in. What audiobook are we all listening to right now?

[Olivia]

I am listening to Yesteryear.

[Ilona]

I'm doing BK Borison and now back to you because I need to dive into more BK Morrison outside of just

[Adriana]

the holiday book that I've read.

[Ilona]

So that's what I'm listening to.

[Olivia]

I've been so locked in with my JBL Live headphones. I know I haven't been home much in New York lately, but the city is loud. The true Adaptive Noise Cancellation 2.0 is elite. I'm not just blocking out the cabs honking, but I'm actually able to be immersed into the story without realizing the chaos below because it can make real time adjustments.

[Adriana]

If you love getting completely lost in a story like me, JBL Live headphones are such a good pick because they have that bold, unfiltered sound and it

[Ilona]

really makes a difference when a book is good. I do not want to miss a single detail.

[Adriana]

Have you guys read those books where they do the different voices for each character? Oh, like different voice actors. It's fun to listen to that. Like you feel like you're in on the conversation with them.

[Ilona]

It's a full production almost. You're in the room.

[Olivia]

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[Adriana]

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[Ilona]

Find your [e-mail] let's get into tea time.

[Adriana]

We have so much to spill. Hydrated by Liquid iv. Yay.

[Ilona]

Yay. So today we put out a call on our Instagram for some Ask Us Anything unhinged. Get unhinged in there. Ask us whatever and we will answer it. And now's the time for the mailbag.

[Adriana]

Mailbag.

[Ilona]

Like, this is mail that got mailed into us.

[Adriana]

Oh, mailbag. Mailbag. I don't know what that was called. People were calling.

[Ilona]

All right. Any plans for coming back to the uk?

[Christie]

Always.

[Adriana]

It calls me all the time.

[Ilona]

Call Star. She will.

[Adriana]

I know he's there. I don't know where, but I know he's over there.

[Ilona]

She knows it. So, yeah, she'll be there. If you got someone for her, let us know for sure.

[Olivia]

Now you got friends there.

[Adriana]

You gotta go back. I also didn't just pull there because I have some good friends.

[Ilona]

Yeah, yeah, it's cool.

[Olivia]

Old teammates everything. And above.

[Ilona]

Yeah, yeah.

[Olivia]

Can y' all do a truth or drink episode? I love y'.

[Ilona]

All.

[Olivia]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Ilona]

Bring it in right now.

[Adriana]

Honestly, we do these recordings during the day and usually it's a weekday though, too.

[Ilona]

I don't care. Bring it in. We had dirty martinis once on set. We needed that again.

[Adriana]

Okay, fine. I would. I just have to plan ahead.

[Ilona]

Maybe it is. I mean, that's what's in here now. You would never know what.

[Olivia]

Okay, I could do a little mimos, a little most.

[Adriana]

Which one of you is your parents favorite?

[Olivia]

Technically there are no favorites, but it probably rotates.

[Adriana]

Probably rotates. I would say Olivia is moms, Adran is Dad's.

[Olivia]

I think. I think you might be in the running for dads.

[Adriana]

I, I, I, I think that they love us all equally. I think that I'm just like, perfect.

[Ilona]

So, like, I think also we require more attention than you do.

[Adriana]

No, I don't think like. Or more.

[Ilona]

I don't know what to say, but, like, you're quite chill. Like, you are very good on your own, whereas we both are more like, eh.

[Adriana]

Well, I'm putting it all on you. I put a lot on Olivia. And then Olivia and Mom have to talk, and then Adriana and Dad just have really good conversations.

[Olivia]

I just call that man up.

[Adriana]

She just calls that guy up.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

So I don't know if it's favored. I think maybe it's who they connect the most with.

[Ilona]

Gravity.

[Adriana]

You and mom connect very well. Yeah, you and dad connect very well. I think I connect with both. Well, we each connect with both, but

[Olivia]

I think that's who.

[Adriana]

Yeah, it works for. I mean, I have the connection to dad because of rugby. And I think even if I, if I didn't have rugby, I wonder if I wouldn't have as great a connection because it's given us something to talk about, to watch together to. To, you know, it's something of such pride for him and with mom even. I love hearing about nursing and hearing about this from her, so.

[Ilona]

But you would. Because it's like, I don't have that with dad, but we'd be chilling.

[Adriana]

I know, I. I know we would, but I think it goes back to honestly, the validation. People wanting respect. And I get love from being good at things.

[Olivia]

Oh.

[Ilona]

Besides, you have a monopoly on all the grandparents loving you. Oh, yeah.

[Adriana]

Actually, I'm all the grandparents favorites.

[Ilona]

Dude.

[Adriana]

Grandmothers. I think we've said this. My picture's on her fridge.

[Ilona]

Like, see, Oma.

[Adriana]

She'll even say it. She'll even say she's gonna watch this episode and be like, no, Oma, we know I'm your favorite and we know I'm deadlines.

[Ilona]

Okay.

[Adriana]

That's my girl. That's my girl.

[Ilona]

I just.

[Adriana]

I'm very good at talking to people and also like elder elders.

[Ilona]

Her bedside manners.

[Adriana]

My bedside manners. We go to see my grandmother. I'm like, grandmother, how are you? You're good today. You remember Olivia. Adriana.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Right.

[Olivia]

So I love it.

[Ilona]

Slinking away.

[Olivia]

I don't like hospitals, so it's a real, like, battle of like.

[Ilona]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Olivia]

And do we think I can sit here?

[Ilona]

When will Adriana move to LA to be with Olivia and Ilona?

[Adriana]

Hot take. I don't think she should.

[Olivia]

Why do you say that?

[Adriana]

I don't think you should live by us.

[Olivia]

Tell me more.

[Adriana]

Because I think you need to be your own person, wherever you are, per.

[Ilona]

Everything was just what we just say.

[Adriana]

I think you need to be on your person. Like, because when you're with us as well, even Olivia and I, like, we go somewhere and then I think you the young and you slinks back to the background. I think you need to be someplace far from us where that. That is who you are. You. You've built a friend group instead of just only, like, we even are sometimes we don't do as bad, but we. Oh, let's go out to dinner and we just hang out each other. When you're alone in New York, you're like, let me hang out with this person. I think you do a really good job with that.

[Olivia]

So I. Yeah, Yeah, I don't. I thought about moving to la. Cause it would make things easier, of course. But I love New York a lot and I love the community I've built there and the friendships I have and like, to what Ilona's saying. I do agree of. I think I've in New York, I have the identity of Audriana, you know. And sometimes when I'm in LA and I'm with you guys so much like it's Adrianna, the younger sister. I like how I am with my friends there of just the person I am, which I think is. It is who I am. I think it's maybe not sometimes a version you guys see of me around other people. I think the version you guys see of me in groups is very different. Cause it is like I fall into that little sister, but I turn into an Olivia when I'm with my friends. And it's crazy that you guys don't see that.

[Ilona]

Yeah, it's sad to me that we don't see it. You're that way with us though.

[Adriana]

Yeah, exactly.

[Olivia]

So you know what that is of me. But it's kind of like there's only so many like loud personalities or voices in a room. And it's always

[Adriana]

so.

[Olivia]

It's like, why would I. And like I'm very. I'm confident in you guys, like just like, you know, handling situation. That is like why I'm chilling.

[Adriana]

I think that's almost like what we're talking about an episode, a few episode before of like. Your diary isn't for everyone. Your diary is just for you.

[Olivia]

Like New York is just for me.

[Adriana]

Not. Not that I'm saying is like also your friends and how you act around them. Not that you have to change yourself to be around. But some people bring out different things in you and that's who you are around them. And we might not get the privilege to see that. But how beautiful is it that that's what you are with them?

[Olivia]

And one thing is I need my. My friends act really weird about my sisters.

[Adriana]

They're fucking weirdos.

[Olivia]

That is my fault. Cause I scared the shit out of them. Cause like, you know, we have to be very proper in the house of like thanking our mom and dad for having us and yada yada. So I was always like, be really nice caus.

[Ilona]

I don't want.

[Olivia]

I. I don't want them to judge you and then judge me. So then I think I ruined it from then, you know.

[Ilona]

Right. It's also funny then watching like friends that you've had to like tell like, okay, like go say goodbye to my mom, she cooked you dinner. Like, you know what I mean? And they'd be like, thank you. Like they're not used to it or whatever. I'm like, don't be weird, though.

[Olivia]

You should see some of my friends leaving the house now at 27, like, during Christmas time. They're like, if my mom's like, not on the floor, they're like, audriana. And I'm like, you're okay. You can go.

[Ilona]

You are. You are.

[Adriana]

Well, that. We. We were like, you have to go say bye to our mom. You have to say thank you.

[Olivia]

You have to say goodbye.

[Adriana]

A couple years ago, we were having dinner and one of my friends bought her boyfriend.

[Ilona]

And who.

[Adriana]

Who knows my mom. And he just started filling his plate, like. And my mom was like, oh, hey, I didn't know you were here. If that was my boyfriend, I'd be

[Olivia]

like, put your plate down.

[Adriana]

Get on your knees before the matriarch over here.

[Ilona]

Say hello.

[Adriana]

Then you may eat. Actually, better yet, go around, say hi to everybody.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

Then after they need anything, then you get some food. And afterwards you're saying thank you, and you're seeing what else you can do.

[Ilona]

But.

[Adriana]

Yeah, because one time. And then one time in college, you did have.

[Olivia]

I can't talk about that. You know, that haunts me. Those weren't my friends.

[Adriana]

Those were friends. They weren't these friends. It's not even bad. It's not a reflection on you. No, you don't.

[Olivia]

I can't even talk about that. Like, it's fucking haunting, actually. Cause you guys haven't let it go. And I remember being in this situation,

[Adriana]

being like, they're never gonna let this go, I guess, anyway.

[Olivia]

And I also like New York better than la.

[Ilona]

Sorry.

[Olivia]

So no plans in the future. And now Alone is in San Diego, so. Ah, doesn't even matter.

[Ilona]

Whatever I was thinking about, now that she's gonna. She's in San Diego. When you come to la, you'll be in my apartment again. Yeah.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

My room.

[Olivia]

Yep.

[Adriana]

My bed.

[Ilona]

Next one. The books you would delete off your Kindle if you died.

[Olivia]

I need you to delete my Amazon account.

[Adriana]

I got some embarrassing fucking ones. Don't eat. What?

[Olivia]

Redacted.

[Adriana]

Oh, I can't even share it.

[Ilona]

What, a morning glory milking farm?

[Adriana]

No, the Minotaur.

[Ilona]

The Minotaur, Milking Farm, Romance.

[Adriana]

None of them are good.

[Olivia]

What was the one that I shared on here? It was like the. It was like the Werewolf Academy or some shit like that. Our social girl, she, like, sent me a cover and she's like, who's this one you're talking about? And I was like, worse. Like, I had to send her the other one. It was worse The Rejected mates Academy.

[Adriana]

Yeah,

[Olivia]

stuff like that.

[Ilona]

I've definitely tried, like, because everyone on TikTok was talking about, like, monster romances, and I was like, what does that mean? And I tried. What do you have? Low read it. I don't even read hockey romances.

[Adriana]

This one is called.

[Olivia]

Is it Pucking Around?

[Adriana]

Pucking Around. And she is the team doctor. That's disgusting. But it's a. What is it?

[Ilona]

Is it a throuple?

[Olivia]

Male.

[Ilona]

Male.

[Adriana]

Male femme. F M M F Mmmf.

[Olivia]

It's a. Don't read that book.

[Adriana]

Don't read that book. She's with all of em.

[Ilona]

It's called Pucking Around.

[Adriana]

Pucking Around.

[Olivia]

That's now called reverse. No, it's called why choose the woke killed reverse harem.

[Adriana]

Oh, did they really? Why. Why can't we say reverse harem?

[Olivia]

I think.

[Adriana]

Does somebody own that?

[Olivia]

No, I just think it's nicer to say why Choose?

[Ilona]

Why Choose? Yeah, that doesn't.

[Olivia]

It's like, why choose one?

[Adriana]

Also have Den of Vipers on here. I could not finish reading that.

[Olivia]

Oh, dude.

[Ilona]

I tried reading the Christmas one Abby Jimenez recommended. It's a. Why Choose? I was like, I can't do this. Maybe why choose isn't for me. But I was like, duh.

[Olivia]

It was.

[Ilona]

And it was.

[Olivia]

I get caught up sometimes and I'm like, how'd that work in the real world? Yeah, I guess that's just polyamory.

[Ilona]

That's polyamory. We recently met a polyamorous person. We were, like, fascinated.

[Adriana]

He was like, Ilona's like.

[Kid Cudi]

And I.

[Ilona]

That is polyamory. Figure it out.

[Adriana]

Cause he, like, has a partner. But then he was talking about another partner, and then he was talking about he still goes on dates. And so I are both, like,

[Kid Cudi]

now

[Adriana]

tell me, so do you have a partner? And I'm like, He's like, I have many partners. Like, okay, wait.

[Ilona]

Hey, hey.

[Christie]

All right.

[Olivia]

You're.

[Ilona]

You're. You're hogging all of it. Okay.

[Olivia]

Flex.

[Adriana]

Honestly. Cool for you. We can't get one.

[Ilona]

We can't get one.

[Adriana]

You know, so, yeah, that was polyamory. We learned about ethical nominal. Oh, is that what it's calling out? Too ethical?

[Olivia]

Remember on a dating app, Shoot for a brand deal alone? Had submitted a form of, like, what her profile says, and she was looking at all the options, and she was like, yeah, I guess. Ethical non monogamy.

[Adriana]

Is that what she's called? It was ethical monogamy. Ethical nonogenogamy.

[Ilona]

Ethical non monogamy.

[Adriana]

Oh, I thought that that meant Like, I don't even know.

[Ilona]

So we're on the shoot and they're like. And so when you said that you, you know, you prefer ethical non monogamy. Adriana and are both like, like what?

[Adriana]

I was like, yeah, that she said what?

[Kid Cudi]

That she was.

[Olivia]

We're like, she can go with monogamy.

[Ilona]

Just say monogamy. She's like, okay.

[Adriana]

I thought I was like, oh, yeah,

[Ilona]

you thought it was like meeting a lot. Like, you date. Like, you go.

[Adriana]

I was like, you dated a lot of people.

[Ilona]

Yeah, it wasn't freak.

[Adriana]

I mean, I can't get one. Huh.

[Ilona]

Well, I think I really need to purge my makeup bag.

[Olivia]

What do you mean?

[Ilona]

I have so many products that are

[Olivia]

just taking up space and daresay bathroom drawers as well.

[Ilona]

Yes. You don't need to call me out like that.

[Olivia]

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[Ilona]

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[Adriana]

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[Olivia]

FDIC20 US bank what's the craziest fantasy you've ever had with a fictional character?

[Adriana]

I got some doozies up here, dude.

[Olivia]

You don't even know where I was 2020 Draco talk. I was in this living.

[Ilona]

Are you in the parties of Slytherin dormitories or what? In the dungeon of Sliver in Slytherin.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Hello.

[Olivia]

I was fully like 21 years old

[Adriana]

in Covid and I was like, they

[Olivia]

kind of really got something here.

[Ilona]

They got something. Shit is so draco for you, you know? You have an answer?

[Olivia]

No, not really. I'm just. That was just more the funny answer.

[Ilona]

Yeah, period.

[Olivia]

But I was there. I was in the halls of Hogwarts.

[Ilona]

That's called like time shifting. You're thinking perspective shifting.

[Olivia]

No, you're thinking of. Yeah, you're thinking of shifting.

[Ilona]

Shifting.

[Olivia]

But that's also. There's just like a huge world of just Draco talk and all these. I've got some crazy things I could send you.

[Ilona]

Please do.

[Adriana]

So I take a fictional. I don't really ever use the same fictional character. I kind of take the. The meat of it and then I create my own thing. And I usually. My character is more badass in my fantasy, of course.

[Olivia]

Okay.

[Adriana]

For example, which one do I have?

[Ilona]

This is just fantasy, not like sexual fantasy. No, I know. Okay. No, I'm asking.

[Adriana]

I'm not thinking about that.

[Olivia]

Dirty.

[Adriana]

No, I have one. When I was into the 100 for that show, I got a solid one for that.

[Ilona]

Adriana recently sent me a heater. Absolute heater of 100 edit.

[Olivia]

It was crazy. It's like this. It starts with this video.

[Ilona]

You can't even try to explain it. That's gonna sound insane.

[Olivia]

I'm gonna try to. It's a chandelier like that gets hit with something and so it falls down and crashes on the floor. Lights go out and as it's crashing

[Ilona]

on the floor, it morphs into Lincoln being shot and, like, falling and his body going down. It's like. And then it's like it's just mourning

[Olivia]

him and Oct. Yeah.

[Ilona]

And then who Octavia basically became after that. That show. Man.

[Olivia]

I've got fantasies of Bellamy and Clark together.

[Ilona]

Right.

[Olivia]

Jesus Christ.

[Ilona]

In real life.

[Olivia]

I know, but we never even saw a kiss.

[Adriana]

Are they together in real life?

[Olivia]

Yeah, they're married.

[Ilona]

They're married.

[Adriana]

Huzzah.

[Olivia]

Huzzah.

[Ilona]

I don't know if I have fantasies with fictional characters.

[Adriana]

Don't really have an active imagination.

[Ilona]

No.

[Olivia]

That's your truth. That's your truth.

[Ilona]

That's my truth. It's my freaking truth.

[Adriana]

I got a werewolf one too. It's knock your socks off.

[Ilona]

It really will. Would you wax or shave each other's sisters coochies if you absolutely had to?

[Olivia]

I got news for you. Why didn't back in the day.

[Ilona]

No.

[Adriana]

Mom once waxed her. Waxed hers.

[Ilona]

Well, because I put a wax strip on like my bikini line and I couldn't rip it off. Dude. I like, I like had to. I talked myself up. I talked myself up and I slapped it on there before I could change my mind. And then my arm muscles could not pull it off.

[Adriana]

I can't believe we used to do that.

[Ilona]

We tried a couple times. My arm like literally every time it would to pull it would just like give out from like nerves or like whatever. And I was like, mom. And so my mom came in and ripped it off the wrong way.

[Adriana]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Ilona]

That.

[Adriana]

That looked like it hurt. You were red for a while.

[Kid Cudi]

Cuz.

[Ilona]

She was just gonna be fast. She's trying to like be helpful and just go like without me even noticing. But then she did it wrong because

[Adriana]

you're supposed to go against.

[Ilona]

But I. If you guys need help down there, especially if you're pregnant or something and you're trying to get. Keep things clean. But that should hopefully be for your partner, whoever they be. But I'm down to help you let me know.

[Adriana]

Yeah, I don't. Yep.

[Ilona]

I don't care. I can do that.

[Adriana]

We don't wax as much anymore.

[Ilona]

We're more of like shavers laser on the edges situation, if you really must know.

[Olivia]

A little off the top.

[Ilona]

A little off the top. All right. This is Laura asks, is it too late to start rugby at 29? Almost 30.

[Olivia]

Rugby can start at any time, anytime. Laura.

[Ilona]

You're Laura. Get in there.

[Adriana]

Go slow, ease into it. And even if it's just for the socialness of it, figure out ways to still be involved.

[Olivia]

There's a team out there who desperately wants you.

[Adriana]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

That needs bodies on the pitch.

[Ilona]

If you Want to feel wanted? Join a rugby program. I like this one.

[Olivia]

Hannah says, if you were a guy,

[Ilona]

what pose would you throw up in pics with your homies?

[Olivia]

You know, I had to do it to him.

[Adriana]

I do that anyway.

[Ilona]

But Adriana is referencing a Florida man. Vintage meme of a guy who posted a picture standing. Just standing on the street. He's here. He's here. And he just wrote the caption. You know, I had to do it to him. And he's in just like. He's in, like, boat shoes. That's my vernacular outfit. You know how to do it to him. Okay. Hello. I knows what your. What yours would be.

[Olivia]

This.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

Oh, when we were in Ireland with Jordan, there's, like, kids called. They call this. Yup. Bros. Like that. And so they all pose like this. So Jordan and I would just pose like this all weekend.

[Ilona]

Or like closed fists, too close this or something. But, like, kind of like a wide leg stance, too.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

And like, beefy shoulders.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Liv, what's yours?

[Ilona]

I don't know how I pose, but have you guys seen on TikTok men who walk like it's big hung or something?

[Adriana]

When.

[Ilona]

Yeah, that would be me.

[Adriana]

You think you'd have a big penis?

[Olivia]

I'd have a hammer.

[Ilona]

Absolute unit.

[Adriana]

So I think mine would be above average. I like to be realistic.

[Ilona]

Okay. Maybe if mine wasn't, though, I'd be good at using it.

[Olivia]

Do you guys like to think about if we were born, like, 300 years ago, like, what station our family would be at?

[Adriana]

We would not be, like, Bridgerton esque. No, no. But we also wouldn't be fully down there.

[Ilona]

You know, what would it be?

[Adriana]

I don't know. But, like, I love these Bridgerton shows, and it's like, oh, my God, what life was like. That's not you, honey. Yeah, no, that's 1%.

[Ilona]

That's not us.

[Adriana]

That's 1%.

[Olivia]

Six people living in this house and a hundred keeping it together.

[Adriana]

Yeah. That's not you. You.

[Ilona]

Right?

[Adriana]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

I think I could be a great ladies maid.

[Adriana]

Yeah, you'd probably be something like that. Yeah.

[Ilona]

I'd keep a mean house.

[Olivia]

I'll tell you what Reagan asks. How much info is too much info when talking to each other about your sex lives? Well, currently, zilch coming from me.

[Adriana]

Yeah. I think it's dependent on. I definitely would say more to maybe my best friend. I will still say a lot or see the reactions, I think, towards it. And. And as. As you see how you guys react, you add more. I think that I get worried sometimes people would judge or whatnot. So maybe I wouldn't share as much. Whereas like some of my friends be like hell yeah.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

So I'm. I like to read the room and then feel it out.

[Ilona]

I guess heard I am an oversharer to be sure because I think we talk about this a lot. I love the connection points and it's like other people go through insane things too. So I love sharing and getting their reactions and like. Yeah. But it does depend on the crowd, I think.

[Adriana]

And I will say though, I think if you're in a healthy relationship with your girls and you know, with women, you're sharing.

[Ilona]

Oh yeah.

[Adriana]

You're sharing a lot and that's not abnormal.

[Ilona]

To knowledge is power.

[Adriana]

Share a lot of your sex life in hopefully respectful ways.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

I was about to say like I do think there's a line of how much you share by about the partner you're with to be sure. Like that's definitely when it could be oversharing as much about yourself as I think you want are comfortable with. But like if someone's really asking a lot of details about the partner.

[Ilona]

Yeah, that's weird. That's a good point.

[Olivia]

Respect them.

[Ilona]

Yeah. And I guess I don't, I don't tell much about the other we share.

[Adriana]

When we share. We share a lot of funny moments.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

Like self deprecating moments that happen to us. I don't, we're never. I don't think many moments of me trying to bring them down or like on robots. It's like me that was really funny for me and I did this and you guys are gonna laugh.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

Sarah asks advice for a woman who's 30 and still a virgin. It's eating me alive.

[Ilona]

At least something's eating you.

[Adriana]

I was gonna say something like that too. That's hilarious. That's funny. I was like, how could I spin this? Hell yeah, Queen.

[Olivia]

It's.

[Ilona]

Look, look.

[Adriana]

Now this is a sex podcast. Sex is fun but like dick is

[Ilona]

abundant and low value.

[Adriana]

You, you don't need it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's awesome. There's other fun things and at your

[Olivia]

own pace and at your own pace,

[Adriana]

bring yourself joy other ways.

[Kid Cudi]

Yeah.

[Ilona]

I don't think you. It's hard to tell somebody that they shouldn't stress like, but you're safe. It will happen. If you really want that to happen, you could get on.

[Adriana]

It could happen anytime.

[Ilona]

It can happen at any time you want it to happen. But you probably have a higher sense of self. Worth that's preventing you from just going out and doing anything with anybody that will make you feel shittier than you do right now, you know?

[Adriana]

Right.

[Olivia]

Nice. Yasmina says, what do you guys imagine each other's future spouses to be like?

[Adriana]

I genuinely don't know. I've even had my friend Jordan, one say, my girlfriend Jordan be like, I actually don't. Can't even imagine who you'd end up with that. Well, was I. Because I can't imagine either. I don't know.

[Olivia]

I can imagine for you.

[Adriana]

Jesus.

[Olivia]

Well, like, I think in England, I think with the men that I have seen you with, I think I've kind of gotten an idea, and I think it's gonna be like a really personable, funny guy. And I think it's gonna be someone who's just, like, very yappy. You think so?

[Ilona]

He's gonna be yappy.

[Adriana]

Yeah.

[Ilona]

I can almost see her as being not, like, quieter, like, calmer. Quieter. You're quite calm and quiet, too, when you want to be. But like, you are also like a bah person. And I think you want somebody that's more like, not reserved.

[Adriana]

I do like a man who's personal. You're right. I like a man who I can bring around my friends and can chat to my friends.

[Ilona]

Oh, yeah.

[Adriana]

Is able to keep up with competition, who you're not embarrassed by or whatever.

[Ilona]

But he isn't showboating. He isn't showboating.

[Adriana]

He's just kind of chill guy who. And have a chat.

[Ilona]

Yeah. Madeline asks how to tell your sister straight up, when she's being dumb about

[Adriana]

something that was fucking dumb, and you straight up tell her, yeah, yeah, in quotes.

[Ilona]

That was fucking dumb. Alona Mar.

[Olivia]

Boom. You don't really got to think too much about that one.

[Ilona]

You don't. That's your sister. Like, she kind of has to love you no matter what.

[Adriana]

You can phrase it with, like, something nice and then the dumb thing.

[Olivia]

Sandwich it.

[Ilona]

Sandwich it.

[Adriana]

But I mean, hey, do you think

[Olivia]

that was, like, the best decision? Yeah, yeah.

[Ilona]

Yeah. Cuz, like, if not your sister, then who else will be that honest with you, right? Maybe a friend, but usually not.

[Adriana]

You want to create that sort of repertoire rapport.

[Olivia]

You.

[Adriana]

You want to create that sort of rapport with your sister?

[Ilona]

Yeah. Like these two. Actually, I had an outfit on today, and I was like, do you guys like my outfit? And they started critique. I wasn't asking for critique, but I got it anyway. I was like, you know what? Good to know. No, Ted,

[Olivia]

just the color of the shoes.

[Ilona]

At least I know they're honest.

[Olivia]

It's just the color of the shoes.

[Adriana]

What's the best and worst part of spending so much time with each other?

[Ilona]

All pros, no cons.

[Adriana]

Speaking of honesty. No. I think that there are so many pros people would pray for times like this. You know, when you go back, a lot of people reminisce. And when you took for granted the times you spent together, and now you have them, and now some people only see their family, like, once or twice a year.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

So it's really good. I think that for me, it can be hard sometimes as well, because it's like, maybe in some ways, what we're talking about is our identities are so much then together, instead of, like, being separate and doing our own thing. Like, I do view myself that can be different than you guys in some of the ways I operate.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Adriana]

And some of the ways I think about things or even how I go out and how I drink and party, like, it's different than you. And I think when we're all together, sometimes it in good ways can change me, but also in some bad ways, I feel like I must change up to fit. So I think that's been. It's tough for me when we're so wrapped up in each other right now instead of being our own, kind of.

[Ilona]

And it's also the thing of, like, you can't miss somebody if they're right there. Not that, like, I want to miss you guys, but, like, you know, distance does make the heart grow fonder. I'm so appreciative of how much time we have together. Like you said, like, people wish that they could be with their siblings all the time. They miss their sisters. They, like, I. I know we're gonna look back and reminisce, but, like, the being in it, though, too, is, like, sometimes. But then I do try to step back and, like, check my privilege and be like, oh, man, how fucking special to be able to do this. But it is like, we are sisters. We are very similar. Like, it's easy. We're very wrapped up in each other's lives. So, like, I was very conscious. Like, we had a couple of days over this past weekend, finally apart from each other, and so many little worky things kept coming up. I was like, oh, just text alone. And I was like, don't you fucking dare text Alona. You give her those. And I gave. I got. Like. I tried to give you as many days as possible where you weren't, like, hearing from me because like, you needed that. I needed that. My instinct, because we are so close

[Adriana]

is to just like, oh, I'll just drop a text. Oh, I'll just call.

[Ilona]

And I was like, no. I was like consciously making an effort to like, give that space.

[Olivia]

I think it's really true and I really enjoy spending all this time together. I think it is very special and just fun point blank, but I think

[Ilona]

it is

[Olivia]

regressing sometimes into like our younger selves and we can get very. Sharp with one another and I don't think we like to do that,

[Narrator/Advertiser]

but

[Olivia]

I think, you know, things are starting to change and so, like, we're gonna stop spending as much time with each other and kind of fall back into our own lives a bit. And I'm excited for what that's to come. But also I'm just like, oh, I miss you guys.

[Ilona]

No, I know.

[Olivia]

But I will see you a lot.

[Ilona]

Yeah, I think it's just like, I'm trying to operate through just gratefulness at all times. It's just like a practice of it. It's like, how lucky am I?

[Olivia]

Let's head into the Book Nook. This is the part of the show where we discuss what's happening on Book Talk Adaptation News. What are we reading right now? The Book Nook is brought to you by the great tasting Muscle Milk. Your brain is one of the most important muscles you can work. Ladies, what are we reading this week?

[Ilona]

I am reading the Tall Tales Book club pick because I am famously a slow reader. So I'm reading yesteryear and it starts with a bang. It's exciting right away. And I already. I've been listening to it and immediately I was like, well, I don't want to put it down yet. I gotta keep finding chores to do around my house. It's. It was a fantastic intro where you get to know her and then really get to know her really quick. And enough about what's happening in her situation before the major plot that you know about going into it where she's basically dropped back in time happens pretty quick. And so there's no like slow, like, build up. It's kind of like bang, bang, we're into it. So that's been very exciting. And she's an interesting character. She's been written to be. Maybe I haven't read far enough in to make a strong enough analysis, but, like, you want to hate her. Like, you want to just like. So I'm curious where it's gonna go from here.

[Olivia]

Yeah, you wanna hate her because that's your Protagonist.

[Christie]

That's.

[Ilona]

I think the reason she wrote this was like, you see these trad wives online and you won. And you do. Like, she's not seemingly a good person. We're inside her head right now. Like, so I'm curious.

[Olivia]

I'm very curious.

[Ilona]

Yeah, that's me.

[Olivia]

Interesting.

[Ilona]

What are you reading? Just read.

[Olivia]

Pretty little shadow. Oh, she's a vampire. He's a Fae king.

[Adriana]

All right.

[Ilona]

He's a Fae king.

[Olivia]

He's a Fae king. And like, to be a Fae king with all this magic, there's a price that you have to pay. And each of the Fae royals have a different price. And his is. Oh, it's apathy. So he constantly is like seeking stimulation and stuff. She's got a tragic backstory. Well, like some of it is that he's gone around town a lot or like he works in just like a coffee shop even though he's a royal, to like always be doing something. And then she has a tragic backstory of her father locked her in a dungeon and tried to starve her to death. But then her shadows kept her alive, of course. And then it turns out her shadow magic can then help her mate because the shadows linger on the mate.

[Adriana]

I don't know.

[Olivia]

But it was fun. It was easy, girl.

[Ilona]

Hell yeah. You know what?

[Olivia]

And he said yes would go.

[Ilona]

And so he said yes would go.

[Olivia]

And with that, thanks for stopping by the House of Mar A Wave original.

[Adriana]

Give that subscribe button a little kiss and let us know what you really

[Ilona]

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[Adriana]

Bye, darling.

[Olivia]

Miss you already.

[Kid Cudi]

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