Drew Afualo & Deison Afualo: Heated Rivalry, Nail Theory & NatGeo Boobs

Summary

House of Maher — Episode Summary

Episode: Drew Afualo & Deison Afualo: Heated Rivalry, Nail Theory & NatGeo Boobs

Date: December 16, 2025
Host(s): Ilona, Olivia, Audriana ("Dre Baby") Maher
Guests: Drew Afualo, Deison ("Dacen") Afualo

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Main Theme / Purpose

This lively episode is equal parts sisterly chaos, unfiltered social commentary, and pop culture breakdowns. Olympic rugby star Ilona Maher, her sisters Olivia and Dre Baby, and their guests Drew and Dacen Afualo (the sibling duo behind the hit podcast "Two Idiot Girls") dish on keeping high standards, online and IRL roasts, TikTok trends, body image, queer representation, viral moments, and the peculiarities of internet fame. They share insights into family dynamics, being large women in public life, book recommendations, and the art of setting boundaries while forming deep, hilarious connections.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dating, Standards & Sisterly Advice

• Drew's Top Dating Advice:

  • "Keep the bar high and be picky. That's what I always say." (00:03, 67:52)
  • Drew stresses the importance of high standards for women, calling out the societal pressure to "give men chances":
    "I think that's all women do. Women are giving too many chances constantly. I think we need to give less of those." (00:13, 67:53)

• Sisterly Dynamic:

  • The group teases each other about dating, including matchmaking attempts and the idea of bringing single friends to rugby games.
  • Dacen jokes: "I'm beautiful and single." (02:51)

2. Music & Pop Culture — Spotify Wrapped

• All the sisters share their top songs of 2025 and poke fun at each other’s choices, relating them to moods/yearly experiences (00:40–01:31).
• Drew and Dacen discuss their own Spotify Wrapped lists, poking fun at their “sad girl” eras and defending their Top Artists (04:13–05:18).

3. Viral Trends & Social Media Commentary

• Lack of Originality in Influencer Culture:

  • Drew laments the sameness of content: "Everybody is exactly the same, so nobody's providing anything anymore... There's no originality." (06:31)
  • The group laughs about TikTok vlogging and the performative struggle of remembering to record every moment (07:28–09:52).

• Mommy Vloggers & Sunday Reset:

  • The crew mimics the genre—turning on every light, wiping down counters, and audience comments: "Let's go, mama!" (07:59–08:14).

4. Representation, Body Image, and Gendered Perceptions

• Discussion about the lack of variety in influencer heights and the pressure to conform — especially in Hollywood (13:38–14:52).
• Hilarious exchange on being large women with large boobs in the gym and public ("National Geographic boobs"):
  • Drew: "If men are doing it, I'm like, there are children here. Think of the kids. But...when small titty girls do it, it's like chic fashion. When I do it, it's like National Geographic." (17:14–17:35)

5. Queer & Female-Centric Media—Books and TV

• Wicked Movies Split:

  • Panel debates the need to split source material into multiple movies for profit, poking fun at unnecessary male songs:
    • Dacen: "There's no reason to include any song a man is singing in." (15:18)

• Heated Rivalry (TV Show):

  • Discussion of queer male-centric storylines, wish for a lesbian equivalent, and gatekeeping from male gaze (21:34–22:16).

• Book Nook:

  • Lesbian romance and queer sports books abound, including Atmosphere, Bloom Town, Cleet Cute, Shifting Gears, and more (72:03–73:34).
  • Drew shares she's co-writing a Polynesian myth-inspired romantasy with "big, strong, brown" main characters—“Everyone looks like me. Get into it. All the men have long hair, period.” (79:41)

6. The Art (and Survival) of Online Roasting

• Drew attributes her razor-sharp wit and clapbacks to growing up in a Samoan family where roasting is a loving tradition (32:31–34:46).
• She admits to running content past Dacen for sensitivity and clarity:
  • “A lot of my checks and balances are her [Dacen].” (35:17)
  • The sisters explain the value of having a sibling as a buffering mirror or confidante in public life.

7. Navigating Fame, Boundaries, and Parasocial Relationships

• All talk about their experiences with fans, from public hugs to aggressive physical contact:
  • Drew: "I'm someone who hates being touched, really. I hate being touched...by anyone, really. The only person who can touch me...is my man." (47:50–48:15)
• Hilarious/harrowing story of crowd surfing at Coachella and being grabbed and even kissed by strangers (49:11–50:26).
• Dacen’s experience as a queer creator in lesbian spaces includes both affirming and awkwardly forward encounters (52:48–54:02).
• The sisters discuss the importance of including family and siblings in professional ventures and always "keeping the receipts" on people who are rude (45:04–46:14).

8. High Standards & The Myth of the Hilarious Boyfriend

• The group debates whether any man will ever match the humor of women friends or sisters:
  • Drew: "No man is ever going to be on that level ever, ever, ever." (67:12)
  • Olivia’s realization: "Have you ever found a man funny?" (62:41)
  • Drew’s dating filter: "There were men that never made it home. ‘Cause you won't last a day in my house." (61:44–62:27)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Dating & Standards

• Drew (on not settling for less):
  "Keep the bar high. Like, it’s good that you’re checking in and being like, he's not funny. Like, that is good. Keep it high and be picky." (67:52)
• Drew (on the reality for women):
  "Women are giving too many chances constantly. I think we need to stop giving. I think we need to give less of those." (00:13, 67:53)

Commentary on Influencer Culture

• Drew:
  "Everybody does the same exact vlogs, the same exact way, wears the same exact things...There's no originality." (06:31)

Body Image & Humor

• Drew (on larger chests):
  "If men are doing it, I'm like, there are children here. Think of the kids. But...when small titty girls do it, it's like chic fashion. When I do it, it's like National Geographic." (17:14–17:35)

• Drew:
  "I have huge tits, too. Huge. Yeah." (17:01)

Roasting & Family

• Drew (on roasting culture):
  "Samoan people...love to make fun of people. They love to roast you. Even if it's kinda mean. It's always funny. It's a lot of...It's always out of love, and it's like a love language." (32:44)

• Drew (online haters):
  "Trust me when I say I know how to take a joke. Like, when they're like, 'Oh, how would you feel if I called you a fucking fat cow?' I don't care. Go ahead." (34:46)

Sibling Dynamics & Repeating Stories

• Drew:
  "The amount of times we repeat our own jokes to each other, and we're like, 'This is fucking hilarious'...She makes me laugh so hard. It's crazy." (39:33–39:47)

Parasocial Oversteps

• Drew (on fans crossing boundaries):
  "If you hold—if you stand next to me and you put your hand on my belly, I'm gonna get mad. If you pose with me like we're posing for prom, I'm pissed off." (48:15–49:11) "One girl tried to kiss me on the mouth...I literally mushed her face away from me." (50:26)

Lesbian Coding, Nail Theory & Representation

• Dacen:
  "Started doing the two short ones. So then when people...ask me about it...I'll go, 'I'm a lesbian.' And they go, what does that mean? I go, nevermind. I'll be like, 'Oh, I love playing guitar. I like to bowl.'" (56:19–56:48)
• On writing a romantasy:
  "Everyone looks like me. Get into it. Everyone's big and huge. And all the men have long hair." (79:41)

The Power of Female Friendship

• Drew:
  "Women are the only species that can grow community in that way and like, connect...To be loved by a woman is to be truly fucking loved." (70:40)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:03 | Drew’s dating advice: keep standards high, don’t give men too many chances | | 04:10 | Spotify Wrapped and what our top songs say about us | | 06:31 | Drew on lack of originality in influencer culture | | 07:28 | Mommy vloggers, routines, and TikTok culture satirized | | 13:38 | The problem with Hollywood and heightism for women | | 17:14 | Drew on having large boobs and public perception – “National Geographic” humor | | 32:31 | Origins of roasting/comedic clapbacks in Samoan family culture | | 34:46 | Drew on taking criticism online: “Go ahead, call me a fat cow, doesn’t bother me” | | 47:50 | Setting boundaries with fans and being touched in public | | 50:26 | Coachella horror story: strangest (and grossest) fan encounter | | 52:48 | Dacen on being approached as a queer creator in lesbian spaces | | 61:44 | The importance of being “the funny one” in family and partner dynamics | | 67:52 | Drew’s ultimate dating and standards advice | | 70:40 | On female friendships: the difference between love from women vs from men | | 72:03 | Book Nook: Lesbian lit, favorites, and romance novel reality checks | | 79:41 | Drew’s fantasy novel-in-progress: big brown heroines and representation |

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Memorable Moments

• Vapping Discourse: Olivia explains “vapping” (using natural pheromones as perfume), sparking both laughter and approval. (03:30–03:55)
• Roast Story: Drew tells first-grade story of refusing to apologize at school: "I’m not sorry, so…” (28:04–28:58)
• Twilight & Wicked: Deep dives celebrating queer-coded moments in pop culture and poking fun at straight love triangles (19:27–21:18; 10:24–12:23).
• Nail Theory & Lesbian Coding: The group discusses nail length as lesbian shorthand and pins down "nail theory" in queer spaces (56:19–57:18).
• Fan Encounters: From fans sending surveillance photos to being groped or even kissed in public, the hosts reveal the darkly funny and uncomfortable realities of new fame (51:13–52:14; 47:50–49:11).
• Never Finding a Funniest Man: "No man is ever going to be on that level ever, ever, ever" – the sisters decide men will never surpass the humor of women, and that's now fine (67:12).

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Book Recommendations (Book Nook Section)

• Atmosphere (audible heartbreak)
• Bloom Town
• Cleet Cute
• Shifting Gears
• Sunburn
• A Fate Inked in Blood (Viking romantasy, Drew's pick)
• Phantasma / Enchantra (Victorian witch/demon series)
• Ice Planet Barbarians (alien romance, Ilona’s 8/9-book binge)
• One Last Stop, Evelyn Hugo (mixed feelings)
• Try Hard Lesbian (rugby romance)
• Drew’s fantasy project: Polynesian myth-inspired (79:41–80:17)

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Tone & Style

The tone is hilariously irreverent, intimate, unguarded, and full of sisterly ribbing, with running jokes about lesbian identity, dating app misadventures, the politics of TikTok and vlogging, and the ongoing quest to get women and queer representation right both on and off screen. The hosts and guests expertly blend sharp pop culture critique ("white is the Pantone color of the year... indicative of boring culture"), candid vulnerability, and punchline timing, making the episode an infectiously joyful, honest, and empowering listen.

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Conclusion

Drew and Dacen Afualo fit seamlessly into the House of Maher energy, riffing with the Maher sisters about everything from the trauma of “vabbing” to what makes a good romance novel. At the heart of the episode is the message: keep your bar high, enjoy your women friends (and maybe, occasionally, a worthy man), and never let anyone — online or IRL — dull the power of your laughter or your boundaries.

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Transcript

[Olivia]

Dating advice for us, either of you. For everybody listening.

[Drew]

Come on, keep trying. Keep still trying, girl. The one I tell everyone is just to keep the bar high. It's keep it high and be picky. That's what I always say.

[Dacen]

Yeah, that's what I've been doing.

[Drew]

As soon as you a whisper of something and I think sometimes people are like, well, you have to give people chances. I think that's all women do. Women are giving too many chances constantly. I think we need to stop giving. I think we need to give less of those. Right. Keep standards high, be picky.

[Ilona]

Welcome back to House of Mar A Wave original.

[Olivia]

Come on in and get cozy.

[Ilona]

The wi fi password is laughing all the way. All caps. I'm Ilona and my Top song of 2025 was one thing by Lola Young. Little spicy, little slutty, little slutty girl.

[Olivia]

I'm Olivia and my top song of 2025 was Spring into summer.

[Drew]

Sad.

[Ilona]

Moody, huh?

[Audriana]

I'm working through some stuff. Says a lot about you. I'm Audriana and my top song was sue me by Audrey Hobert. It's like a 2 minute, 15 second song. So I could listen to that.

[Olivia]

Yeah, got it.

[Audriana]

That one. That one.

[Olivia]

Beautiful.

[Audriana]

I'm judging everyone based on their Spotified raps.

[Olivia]

I think it says a lot about.

[Audriana]

A person, especially when there's no women in their Spotify raps. If you're not in the top 1% of a Spotify woman artist, what are you doing?

[Olivia]

What are you even doing?

[Drew]

Misogyny.

[Olivia]

Somewhere.

[Audriana]

Somewhere.

[Olivia]

It's in there.

[Ilona]

We have a few house rules here.

[Olivia]

Girls are magic.

[Audriana]

Reading is hot.

[Ilona]

And so are you. And so are we. And so are our guests. So make sure to check us out on YouTube, subscribe and like and put it on when you're cleaning or doing the Christmas tree or something, you'll want to lay eyes on these hotties. Lay eyes on these.

[Olivia]

I'm telling you now.

[Ilona]

Our fourth and fifth March sisters today are reigning queens of roasting. First up, one of our sisters. You may know her as the woman who built a throne on the rubble of misogyny. Armed with an unmistakable laugh and a take no prisoners attitude. She's a Time 100 creator, a Forbes 30 under 30, and the first Samoan woman to become a New York Times best selling author with her book Loud Accept nothing less than the life you deserve.

[Olivia]

Her sister and partner in crime is the co host of their Chart topping podcast 2 Idiot Girls, which is doing two live shows in January. If you're in California, She's a powerhouse creator all her own. She's a fierce advocate for queer Pacifica representation, using her platform to create the visibility she never had growing up. She's a writer, comedian, one of the only people who can get her sister Drew to break together. They're a force of nature. Welcome to the family. The formidable, the brilliant, the unapologetic Afualo sisters, Drew and Daisy.

[Drew]

Man, what an intro I see.

[Dacen]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Another one. Yay. Period. Thank you so much for having us.

[Audriana]

Anything else you would like to add?

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

What do we miss?

[Dacen]

I'm beautiful and single.

[Drew]

Yeah. So what is Alona gonna do about that?

[Dacen]

Who on Ilona's team wants me?

[Drew]

Let's talk.

[Dacen]

Let's talk about that.

[Drew]

I guess that's it.

[Olivia]

That's literally something I had on here. Decent Texas me. She was like, can I ask you something? And I was like, what's up, girl? I think Invisible Inc. Too.

[Drew]

And I was like, what's up, girl?

[Dacen]

I'm going to be weird.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

She was like, who want to loan a team single and want me?

[Drew]

Which one do you want?

[Ilona]

Me, More importantly, I can. I'll take a look. We have such a young team right now, though.

[Drew]

Oh, I know, right?

[Ilona]

But you come to some rugby games.

[Dacen]

I love that.

[Drew]

Go put your pussy in the wind. You know, Got to do.

[Dacen]

Got to get the pheromones out there.

[Drew]

You got to do it.

[Audriana]

Someone in the audience for start vapping.

[Olivia]

Vabbing.

[Drew]

You know what that is? Vapping.

[Olivia]

I was just telling them. What, this vabbing?

[Dacen]

No, with a beat on the end.

[Olivia]

Va, va, bang.

[Ilona]

B.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Olivia]

I think a B. Right. It's the act of. I'm sorry about this. When you use your own womanly as like, a perfume.

[Drew]

Oh, like snail trail.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

Or like in the places you put.

[Olivia]

On a snail trail, it puts your pheromones out there.

[Drew]

Pheromones. You're right. That's actually true.

[Dacen]

So if I smell different at Elona's.

[Drew]

Games, we'll know what's happening. So if you smell that delicious scent, just know that's me.

[Olivia]

Alona approved it.

[Drew]

That's all. The organic baby. It's homegrown. Yeah. Homegrown for real. Thank you so much for having us.

[Dacen]

I know.

[Drew]

I'm so excited to be here.

[Ilona]

Welcome, sisters on the couch.

[Drew]

Yes.

[Ilona]

We talked about our Spotify wrapped. Tell us about yours.

[Drew]

Honestly, mine was kind of awesome this year.

[Dacen]

Mine wasn't bad.

[Drew]

A little bit.

[Dacen]

Yeah.

[Drew]

But normally mine's a little bit embarrassing, which is.

[Dacen]

I think Kehlani was in my Top five of, like, artists. But my number one song was Way Too Sexy by Drake and Future. And then the second was Flex up, which is, like, what's his name? Lil Yachty and, like, Future. Those are songs, if you like.

[Drew]

You know that.

[Dacen]

That if you listen to them while you're crying, you can't cry. So I had a year.

[Drew]

Have no choice. Yeah.

[Ilona]

You were crying a lot.

[Drew]

No kidding.

[Dacen]

Well, when you said Audrey Hobert, I go, that album came out two months ago. For that to be interrupted Snugs.

[Drew]

That's actually so, too, because Olivia Dean was in my top album. Yeah. Now she's in the top album. Mine was Bad Boonie, because his album was my top album.

[Dacen]

It was a really good album.

[Drew]

Yeah. Period.

[Audriana]

You are ready for the super bowl, then.

[Drew]

Yes. I'm so ready. I'll be there. I'll be there with my, like, listening ears. Because I love to listen to men.

[Dacen]

You're doing the work.

[Drew]

I love to listen to.

[Olivia]

Famously. She loves listening to men.

[Drew]

Oh, I love to hear them out. You know that.

[Ilona]

You know that about me.

[Olivia]

Absolutely.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Not bad.

[Drew]

Mine wasn't too bad this year. Your guys was pretty cool. Yeah. I would say indicative of where you're at in life. Sure.

[Ilona]

There's, like, sad, and mine's one thing. I'm just trying to get one thing this year, I guess.

[Drew]

Barely got it. And you know what?

[Dacen]

I feel like I'm on the same wavelength.

[Audriana]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

Some of us are in our slight eras, and that's okay.

[Drew]

You're in a who want me era.

[Dacen]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Period.

[Ilona]

I'm ready for it.

[Drew]

I'm sure. I want it. I was just saying, come get it.

[Dacen]

When he talks to Olivia about it, I go, I don't know that many straight men, girl, but I'll keep an.

[Ilona]

Eye out for you.

[Olivia]

I was like, thank you, Ally.

[Drew]

Ally, for real, I love it.

[Olivia]

Well, we love to start things off by touching a little grass.

[Ilona]

Okay.

[Olivia]

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[Drew]

Did you hear about this? I did. I saw something yesterday on it.

[Dacen]

It was just white, right?

[Olivia]

It's white.

[Drew]

White. Okay. For sure. Yeah.

[Olivia]

And it's like, isn't that the absence of color?

[Drew]

Yes. What is that?

[Olivia]

Black is a combination of all colors. White is an absence of color, I believe. Right?

[Drew]

Yeah. And rock that.

[Audriana]

Yeah. Yes.

[Olivia]

So write that down.

[Drew]

Yeah. I think it's indicative of where we're at, probably culturally in the world. Boring.

[Olivia]

Exactly.

[Drew]

I was, like, just talking about that earlier today because I was talking about, like, the idea of relatability. Right. But I saw, like, from influencers, right? And I saw someone make a video that I thought was, like, pretty telling. I thought it was, like, a good take where she said, it's not necessarily like that, you know, or we're jealous or like, anything like that. It's not that. It's more so that everybody is exactly the same, so nobody's providing anything anymore. It's like everybody does the same exact vlogs, the same exact way, wears the same exact things. That's how I feel about that. Makeup's the same. Yeah. It's boring, which I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But also, it doesn't. No, but it's like, when everybody's just copying each other. Like, it's. There's no originality. I feel like. I mean, me and Alona, you. We came in the same class, I would say, like, around TikTok time. Like, came up in the same class. Like, I feel like we were one of the last ones where, like, it was so different. Now I feel like the most popular TikTokers are, like, vloggers, which is fine. Yeah. But everybody's doing the exact same things. Wearing the exact same. With Cat Cohen. Oh, yes. Yes, yes. Do you guys watch mommy vloggers on TikTok?

[Ilona]

I. I hate to say it.

[Audriana]

I do.

[Drew]

Yes. Like, okay, she gets me.

[Ilona]

I know what you know.

[Drew]

You know, it's like the morning routine.

[Dacen]

I'm watching laundry. Yeah.

[Drew]

They're like, spend the morning with me, 9:15 to 11:45.

[Olivia]

Like, turning on every light switch in their house.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

And walking down the hall.

[Drew]

And they always have a lamp by the coffee maker. I don't know how that works, but, like, they're like, turn that on. Yeah.

[Ilona]

Every time.

[Drew]

Every time. But each one, I was like, every time they hit me with one of these, I know we're about to wipe some counters down. We're Sunday resetting. Yeah, we're Sunday reset. I'm banging out the pillows on the couch when they hit me with one of these.

[Olivia]

This is their. We're locking in.

[Drew]

Yeah. They go, let's go. They always say, I love it.

[Dacen]

I love it.

[Ilona]

I love it.

[Audriana]

The comments are always, let's go, mama.

[Drew]

Do what I do.

[Ilona]

Work it, mama.

[Drew]

This one. Let's go. And they always go, bye. I love it.

[Ilona]

The first Is them, good morning.

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dacen]

Them like, waking up, Come get ready with me.

[Drew]

And then they.

[Ilona]

I'm like, I think of the behind the scenes of that, right? Set up the camera. Every movement, go back, get the camera.

[Drew]

It's a lot of work.

[Ilona]

And I think similar content. I am almost thinking, like, do I have to get into vlogging? Everything?

[Dacen]

Right?

[Drew]

It's like the new thing now.

[Ilona]

I've always been a quick video person.

[Drew]

Me too. And I can't do a vlog. Like, one time I did something every TikTok. It takes forever, right? One time I did a TikTok thing and I was like, oh, I'll just do like a Spend the day with me. I filmed two clips at 7am didn't film another one till 6pm I said. And then I literally was texting everyone that was with me. I was like, does anybody have clips of me walking around or anything? Because I just forget. I, like, forget. And then I'm like, I don't care about talking to my phone in public. Like, that doesn't really bother me. It's more so just like, I will never remember to do it.

[Dacen]

I feel more embarrassed vlogging than I do if I'm showing my outfit in public. Like, if I set up my shit and I'm like, being cute.

[Drew]

I'm like, that was so good save.

[Dacen]

When I'm vlogging, I go, now fuck me.

[Drew]

Is it on point? It's not even on point.

[Dacen]

5.

[Drew]

Got it started over and then I'm embarrassed. No, it's just recording myself and it's just. Yeah, it's a lot. Yeah, everyone's. I talk a lot. Nobody needs to see me vlog. Oh, my God. Plus, my day's boring. I don't know about you guys, but, like, if I'm not working, I'm not doing shit.

[Ilona]

And the same stuff.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Ilona]

Like, hey, guys, going into to podcast again. My job.

[Drew]

It's like the same three things I do every day. I'm like, my life is not nearly as exciting as you may think. Like, even when I went to the Wicked premiere recently, we have a Patreon with our show, Two Idiot Girls. And she was like, oh, my God, you should do a vlog. Because she always does the vlogs. And I'm just like, there. And she was like, you should do a Wicked vlog.

[Dacen]

I gave her the camera.

[Drew]

She's like, this is how you use it. Like, it's easy. I'm like, okay.

[Ilona]

Period.

[Drew]

I film myself getting glammed. I'm like, oh, My God, Glam. I get in the car, I'm like, we're in the car. I don't even think I did that, actually. I tried to do that, and I forgot to press record. And I was like, whatever, it's fine. Oh, forget it. Then I got to the premiere, and then my plus one, I took my cousin Adam. Our cousin Adam, who does our hair and makeup. And I took him and I gave him my phone. I turned around, I turned back, lost him for 40 minutes. I was like. And I had no phone, no nothing. I was like, just me and my person. Like, I was just me and my heels. I was like, ugh. And then someone came and did a live interview with me at the same time. All that to say, I did not vlog anything. No, I think I took it.

[Dacen]

I was like, get ready with me for Wicked.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Dacen]

We just got here. Just got home.

[Drew]

Movie was awesome. Got home. Movie was awesome. Loved it. Did you guys like Wicked?

[Olivia]

That's actually one of our next questions is another.

[Drew]

Let's talk about it is, do we.

[Olivia]

Need to touch grass on breaking things into so many parts? Because I saw Wicked, too. Okay. And I felt that it just lost all of its momentum from being its own thing. Cause it was so, like.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

And then nothing actually felt as important because it was all, like, important.

[Dacen]

And it felt rushed, I would say.

[Olivia]

And it felt rushed. So I'm like, do we need to touch some grass and not be breaking things into multiple parts?

[Drew]

Go Right. To make the most money possible? Probably not.

[Dacen]

I felt like I heard. I remember, like, John Chu saying, oh, I want to do it in two parts so we don't skip any of the songs. I go, any song is a man is singing. Like, leave dancing for life. That's fine.

[Drew]

Even that one.

[Dacen]

That one should have been two verses cut. I love Jonathan Bailey. I don't want to watch man sing.

[Drew]

Yeah, Sorry. I say every time not the girls are singing. I'm like, shut up, shut up, shut up. I know.

[Dacen]

We were like, if that goat sings.

[Drew]

One more time, one more time, I swear to God, Dr. Dylan wizard himself.

[Olivia]

I'm like, and they're not singers.

[Ilona]

Right?

[Drew]

The act.

[Ilona]

Most of the actors like Madame Morrible, they're not actually singers, huh?

[Drew]

No. And that gave me hope, honestly.

[Audriana]

Right.

[Drew]

If I may be coming for you. It was inspirational to me because I was like, well, I also can't sing. And I bet I could kill. I bet I would kill. As Madame Marble flipping around, feeling it.

[Olivia]

Wickedness.

[Ilona]

I didn't watch it, but I remember I saw a lot of comments where everyone said there was a certain part where you go to the bathroom where Elphaba and Fiyero are kissing, and you can just tell it's two gay people.

[Drew]

Yes. Okay. Which.

[Dacen]

That was the first thing Drew told me. He's like, no spoilers. But I was watching two queers kiss.

[Drew]

And I thought, the chemistry is there. You're not selling me, unfortunately, because I know you. And I've also met Cynthia. I haven't spent time with her. So, like. And then Jonathan I've seen in person, but I've never met beautiful. So it's just one of those where I'm like, two beautiful people. Can't buy in. Yeah.

[Olivia]

Love it, though.

[Drew]

Loving you.

[Dacen]

People were saying that's theater, though.

[Drew]

It was representation. It was much more sensual than I thought it was going to be.

[Dacen]

No, that too.

[Drew]

It was far more sensual.

[Dacen]

It's like, you know that shine where they're, like, smelling candles at home?

[Drew]

Goods.

[Dacen]

And they're sitting on the ground like that in the play, that's how Fiero sits.

[Drew]

Right.

[Dacen]

So I'm glad they let it stand a little bit.

[Drew]

Yeah. So submissive and breathable, you know, which is fine. Love that.

[Ilona]

I love.

[Drew]

But in this one, I was like, what lens did they use? Because his traps look.

[Dacen]

And they made him really tall. And he's not tall.

[Drew]

No, not tall. He's anybody.

[Audriana]

Cynthia's also not tall.

[Drew]

No, no, no. That's why, like, next to him, perfect match. Yeah. Like Ariana next to him. Have you ever stood next to Ariana Grande or Cynthia Riva?

[Ilona]

I. I don't understand this.

[Dacen]

They are the tiniest women in the world.

[Drew]

It was like that meme where it's like, why doesn't the big one eat the little one? Like, that's how I feel. I'm like, three, five, four, Right? Yeah. I was giving that giant girl in Monsters vs Aliens. You know, she turns enormous. Like, that's like Witherspoon. Yeah. That's us going through Hollywood.

[Olivia]

You move in slow motion to them.

[Drew]

Right. So much bigger. Yeah, yeah. It's a very thematic entrance, I feel like. But you guys get that she doesn't get that, but you guys get that.

[Ilona]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

There's.

[Ilona]

There have been a couple moments where I'll meet people and I'm like, whoa. Because I spend my day around other big, strong women.

[Drew]

Same.

[Ilona]

So my perspective is so different. And then I get into Hollywood and.

[Drew]

I'm like, everybody is miniature. Everybody is small and tiny. Yeah.

[Audriana]

Do they hand pick short people? I don't really get it.

[Drew]

I don't know. I mean, honestly, probably I even like. Because I recently got an acting coach because I'm like, working on acting. Whatever. Cass me. Cass me, please. Anyways, I'm working with him. And I was like, can I ask you a question? Cause when you do slates and stuff, they ask you to say your name, your height and where you're based.

[Dacen]

And your age.

[Drew]

No, not even your age. It's just height is the one thing they really want to know. In all the self tapes I've sent, I'm saying six feet. After a while, I started lying. I was like. And I asked my coach. I'm like, can I ask you something? Can I lie about that? I feel like it's working against me, not even factoring no skill.

[Dacen]

I'm like, it needs to be my height thing.

[Drew]

I bet it's because I'm too tall, right? And he actually told me. He's like, honestly, that is true. Because, like, with men especially, men are so short in Hollywood. But he's like. But I have a couple guys that are like, they play like superhero dudes. So like, when they're the roles for a superhero, I'm like, oh, he's six, three. But if it's for like a rom com lead, I say like 5 10. Because they want them to be smaller. I don't know what it is about minute, whatever.

[Olivia]

Interesting. Well, in sports, you kind of don't think up their heights a little bit all the time.

[Ilona]

For sure.

[Dacen]

I was gonna say, especially a man.

[Ilona]

All up my way seem more like.

[Drew]

If you guys see me telling people I'm five eight, just mind you, I'll.

[Olivia]

Be like, that's my five eight queen.

[Dacen]

She's literally five' eight.

[Drew]

Everybody know I'm in my bag. I'm in my acting bag.

[Olivia]

It fits in my pocket.

[Audriana]

Actually, no, I used to do that on dating apps.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Audriana]

Five' nine.

[Olivia]

Don't ever dim yourself.

[Drew]

And it's different when I do it. When you do it. When you do it, it's wrong. No. Yeah, that is true. Well, how tall are you?

[Audriana]

Forgotten? I'm five' ten. And so I was like, I could be five' nine.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Maybe I could.

[Audriana]

It felt more approachable.

[Dacen]

You're just the same 10.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Why did I think you were taller than that?

[Audriana]

That she's five' eleven? I don't know.

[Drew]

Yeah. No.

[Ilona]

You guys, are you six foot on the dot?

[Drew]

Yeah. Like on the inch, like to the edge. Which is kind of shocking. Yeah.

[Ilona]

Oh, you sound like 5 11.

[Drew]

Yeah, maybe. Imagine that rage made in me like a man. No, I'm six two. No, literally. Measure me. I'll show you right now. Lay down on the floor.

[Ilona]

Let's lay down. No, for real, Jason, how tall are you?

[Dacen]

Five' four. Whoa.

[Drew]

Yeah, I know. Miniature.

[Ilona]

See, what I have to deal with feeding you different.

[Dacen]

Well, she's five three. Everyone else in the family's tall.

[Drew]

Yeah. My dad's six six, so.

[Dacen]

And then our bike.

[Drew]

Bonnie's six one, six one. Yeah, yeah, you got it all skipped past. Right. Honestly, for Donovan, we were like, oh, I think he got decent short gene for a while, but then he, like, grew. Later on, my dad kept growing till he was, like, 21, 22.

[Ilona]

Damn.

[Drew]

So, like, my man is six four, which is nice. Yeah. And then even his brother, who is the, like, completely white. Like, he's like, blonde hair, blue eye, white. It's a long story, but that's his brother. His brother's also, like, six three. Like, they're both tall. And sometimes I tell him, I'm like, man, thank God the men in your family are tall on your mom's side, because otherwise you would have been short and Billy would have been so much bigger. But, yeah, she's older but tinier. It is what it is. She's been the same height since sixth grade. Yeah, right.

[Dacen]

And I was always taller than everyone, and then it just stopped.

[Drew]

Interesting.

[Ilona]

That's how I describe my boobs. I had them, and I was like, like, suckers. And then they stopped immediately.

[Drew]

Then you got lapped.

[Ilona]

And I thought. I thought I was gonna. I was like, sorry, Olivia. I mean, you obviously aren't.

[Olivia]

Good luck in the next good look.

[Ilona]

Obviously, I have. It stopped. Hers, they're still growing.

[Drew]

Boom.

[Ilona]

So I feel you on it.

[Drew]

I get that, too. I get that, too. I have huge tits, too.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Huge. Yeah.

[Ilona]

Okay.

[Drew]

I don't say that as a brag, honestly.

[Dacen]

Big burden to carry.

[Drew]

I wish I could stick them in, like, something in them to be like. Like their mattress. Like, just shrink them a little bit.

[Olivia]

To match my outfit.

[Drew]

Well. And I've said this joke before, but I'm like, when I go braless and, like, nipples out. Like, I think nipples out is so cute. Like, when girls do it, obviously, I think it's cute. But, like, if men are doing it, I'm like, there are children here. Think of the kids. But when I. Like, if I do that, like, when small titty girls do it, it's like chic fashion when I do it. It's like national Geographic.

[Dacen]

Medicinal.

[Drew]

It's medicinal. It's wet nerves. Like it's very like breast.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Drew]

It's not a tit. It's a breast. It's not a tit. It's breast.

[Olivia]

We need more of that.

[Ilona]

You're a weightlifter too, so you like to be in the gym?

[Drew]

Yes.

[Ilona]

Does that hurt you as well?

[Drew]

Big titties.

[Ilona]

For me, I can do whatever I want. I'm on the ground doing burpees, you know, bench press. I'm hitting my boobs that in the way.

[Drew]

I just have like tight ass sports bras that really like. Yeah, suck em in. Like vacuum seal them. Like I put my vacuum on them and I suck the air out.

[Ilona]

All right, babe, move on, babe.

[Drew]

Pull the air out.

[Olivia]

Be right there.

[Drew]

I know. Especially when I pms. When I pms, they. Girl, I could take out a fucking eye. Oh my God. I know. I literally. That's why I don't like wearing bras with cups because I feel like I have two big mixing bowls on my chest. Like they're just like, nah, it's too much.

[Olivia]

Do they hurt around your period too?

[Dacen]

Yeah, sometimes.

[Drew]

Sometimes? Yeah, like sometimes. It depends. But like sometimes when we talk about tops and stuff, Dacen's like, well, she's like, you could borrow my top. I'm like, girl, that's gonna be dots on my nipples. That's not gonna fit me, girl. Anywho, well then can we look this up real quick?

[Olivia]

A list every major book to movie adaptation that broke a movie into multiple parts. Perplexity. What do you got for us?

[Ilona]

I already know 2.

[Olivia]

Do you know this list already? We gotta Perplexity. Let's hear it. But Ilona apparently knows. Okay. Widely known Hollywood examples. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows by J.K. rowling was the first to do this, I believe.

[Drew]

I actually did know that.

[Olivia]

Did you?

[Drew]

Yeah, I did know that.

[Dacen]

We went to the midnight.

[Drew]

We went to the midnight premiere and we had never seen them be like part two coming soon. Can you believe we didn't go to.

[Dacen]

Parties in high school?

[Drew]

School?

[Dacen]

Does that sound like. Right?

[Drew]

That's because we were athletes.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Drew]

We didn't have time to do fun things.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Drew]

I was clocking in every night.

[Ilona]

Yeah, for sure.

[Olivia]

Interesting. Okay. We also got like the Twilight Saga. It's always like the last movie and things. It seems like.

[Drew]

Were you guys big Twilight Girls?

[Ilona]

Yeah, huge.

[Drew]

We loved.

[Olivia]

We just made a whole episode on Twilight.

[Drew]

Let's just talk about it.

[Olivia]

What do you guys like about it?

[Drew]

I loved everything about it. Honestly, I was so into the. Yeah. Jason was like, not enough gay people.

[Dacen]

There are not enough gay.

[Olivia]

Enough gay.

[Drew]

Two dudes.

[Dacen]

When Jacob cut his hair up, he looked like a girl. I don't want to watch it anymore.

[Drew]

Yeah. Forget it. No, I just loved it. I love romantasy kind of things. I think that kind of falls in the same way.

[Dacen]

I did enjoy that.

[Drew]

And I love love triangles.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Drew]

So fun.

[Olivia]

T. The 10 scene anyway.

[Drew]

I know. Honestly, T, I love it. Wait, can I say, too, she was so T in that movie, Bella, because the way she went and, like, cheated essentially, like, gets coerced into a kiss and then comes back and he's like, well, you love him. And then she's like, I love you more. She's like, low key. My hero. She's like, cuck him. I'm gonna marry you, but this is my side ho.

[Audriana]

Yeah.

[Drew]

I just. I admire her.

[Olivia]

She said yes, and.

[Drew]

Yeah. She was like, porcaina lostos. Paris is my favorite time of year.

[Dacen]

And the way she acted in New Moon through the breakup. I'm like every lesbian ever did.

[Olivia]

Knows what that feels like.

[Dacen]

I'm sitting there in. Time's just passing around.

[Drew]

That's a huge. Relationship for two days. I love it.

[Audriana]

Back to Wicked real quick. Why was the first movie three hours, the same amount of time as a stage play. And then there's a second movie. I literally. I couldn't get past that. I was like, you could have done it all in one.

[Dacen]

I felt like the second movie felt faster to me. I felt like the first one, I.

[Drew]

Was like, no, they have seven more songs.

[Dacen]

And this one, I was like, oh, it's almost.

[Audriana]

This one was 2 hours, 15 minutes.

[Dacen]

Oh, it was shorter.

[Drew]

It was shorter. Oh, my God. It did kind of feel like the first one. They were at School for 25 years. And then this one, you were like, oh, shit. Oh.

[Ilona]

Oh.

[Drew]

Like, every. Every 10 minutes. They were moving on, time jumping.

[Olivia]

That's right.

[Dacen]

They wanted to include all the songs. There's no reason to include any song a man is singing in.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Or an extra. Oh, God. I know. Every time they gear up, I'm like, skip. Okay, Google Skip.

[Ilona]

Yeah, I gotta watch it. I haven't watched it yet, but you know what I have watched. And a show that's in a few episodes is heated rivalry. You watched that? I did it.

[Olivia]

I sent you a text.

[Ilona]

Oh, yeah. They be fucking in this.

[Drew]

Yeah. Oh, cool.

[Olivia]

You remember that text?

[Ilona]

Have you guys watched it?

[Drew]

I haven't watched it. I feel like I have.

[Dacen]

I was Telling my sister. It says, sorry, Jason, there's no women in. I know. I saw, like, people were saying they need to make a lesbian version of this. And I was telling my sister, I would love to watch that. And then I was thinking of all the men that watch, I go, I don't want them to make it.

[Drew]

Only if men aren't allowed to access it. Yeah, it shouldn't be allowed to. There's gotta be a pop up. I've heard it's good, though.

[Dacen]

Yeah.

[Ilona]

Want to watch it?

[Dacen]

I just haven't yet.

[Drew]

I like it.

[Audriana]

I read the books too.

[Drew]

Oh.

[Audriana]

I just. I love the books as well. And they're doing a really great job. Because it's a crave original.

[Drew]

Yes. From Canada.

[Audriana]

Canada.

[Drew]

And it's low budget.

[Olivia]

I was a little nervous, and they were wildly unprepared for the success that it seemed.

[Drew]

Oh, I'm sure all the books are.

[Audriana]

Sold out across the world right now.

[Drew]

Freaked out.

[Audriana]

They just don't have enough printed. But the first two episodes are amazing and, like, well shot a lot of stuff.

[Dacen]

Is it just like a funny romance?

[Olivia]

It's like a soft core.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Truly. Like somebody who's like, well, what's it about? They're like. They're gay and they play hockey. And it was like, okay, but what's it about? Like, that's what it's about. No, I just said there's yearning.

[Dacen]

Well, there's gay, so there should be yearning.

[Audriana]

Right.

[Drew]

That's all you need to know.

[Ilona]

She sent me a book, like a rugby book with the same style. And I was like, I gotta do this. I gotta produce this. Yeah, but I. I was like, can I start?

[Drew]

The perfect leading woman.

[Ilona]

And then Olivia John was like, oh, taking away a character from a gay woman.

[Audriana]

I like, was.

[Ilona]

I was like, come on.

[Drew]

You know.

[Ilona]

What the gays have put me through in rugby.

[Dacen]

You are a minority.

[Drew]

Why don't you be a female rugby player? Male rugby player.

[Ilona]

We could do that.

[Drew]

We could do that.

[Ilona]

That's boring. But this.

[Drew]

Or just not realistic.

[Ilona]

Yeah, it's just not realistic. It doesn't have to work. I want something that's really real, you know? So we'll think about it.

[Audriana]

You want some fidelity?

[Drew]

You know, you're so me, though, because I said the same thing. Like, I'm writing another book right now, and it is gonna be, like, Romantasy, which is exciting. But when I was talking about it, I was like, this is my Lin Manuel Miranda plan. Like, I'm gonna write this. It's gonna do well. Produce it. You can have it. Only caveat. I have to be the star I need to be in it. He's honestly a genius. He's a genius. He's like, yeah, you can have it. And no, I can't sing. That's what I'm gonna do. That's my grander plan.

[Olivia]

He's getting through.

[Drew]

Yeah, he's home too.

[Ilona]

You can't rely on somebody else to do.

[Drew]

No, especially with big women like us. No, for real. Who else is gonna do it?

[Ilona]

Well, that's what I've been thinking. So I'm like, oh, you know, maybe do some acting. I mean, I know I' be the hot assassin that comes in. I don't see that. Maybe I'll get into roles. I want to do, like I always say, the Dwayne, the Rock Johnson progression into it because of the size or even John Cena.

[Dacen]

He's done a really good job.

[Drew]

John Cena. Yeah.

[Ilona]

Those are my little kind of, I guess, things I always say, like the way they've gotten into movies, but we gotta check out for roles over five' ten. Women over five' ten.

[Drew]

I'll start lying and then once I get in the room, I'll charm the pants off everyone. And then I'm like, let's get some apple boxes for him. We'll be good. Don't worry. It's okay. We'll be eye to eye. It's fine.

[Olivia]

Well, thank you, Perplexity. Touch some grass, y'. All.

[Ilona]

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[Olivia]

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[Ilona]

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That's code M A H E [e-mail]. You're part of the family now, so you've got to help us around the house. Choose which chore you'd like to do. Laundry, dishes or dust. Dusting.

[Drew]

I'd rather do dishes. Dishes. I'd rather do dusting.

[Ilona]

Oh, share your last saved or liked Tick tock.

[Drew]

Oh, okay, we're getting right into it. This is literally a video of three little girls watching K Pop Demon Hunters at the Macy's Day parade. Yeah, I just thought it was the sweetest thing in the world and I love K Pop Demon Hunters, so I.

[Olivia]

Thought that was too probably how I was watching.

[Drew]

That was my last saved one. That one's kind of sweet. Not very funny. Let me think my last.

[Ilona]

Do you like go on to grind? Are you laughing at people? Is that your comedy?

[Drew]

Yeah, like I think like my algorithms honestly kick ass. Like I have said you would think it's awful because of all the shit I have to dig through like a raccoon. But my thankfully my algorithm's pretty, pretty funny. It's like so funny sometimes it moves Me to tears. Like, a lot of the TikToks I have saved are either like recipes or like gift ideas or they're videos that made me laugh so hard I started crying and had to lock my phone for a bit.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And I'm like, like when I'm sad, I'll come back to this. Does that a lot.

[Olivia]

Laughing, crying at is when I. Somebody makes a video and I'm like, oh, they look like. What do they look like? They look like something familiar to me. And I open the comments and somebody's posted a picture of like, exactly what they look like. And it's like the fish from Shark Tale.

[Drew]

I'm like, that's exactly who she looks like. I can't take it.

[Olivia]

Cracking me up.

[Drew]

The comments are so funny on Tik Tok.

[Dacen]

Now that you can put pictures too. It makes it way fun.

[Drew]

Oh, for real?

[Olivia]

God, I. I steal all of them. I take all those reaction ones. Jason, you're dusting.

[Ilona]

Share your all time favorite dis.

[Dacen]

I was gonna say one that Drew did. We were talking about the other day where this kid was at four square.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

And he was like, cheating. And then.

[Drew]

Was he. When we were kids? Yeah. I was like, in first grade, Drew.

[Dacen]

Called him Jumbo, which, like, I laughed out when she told me.

[Drew]

And I didn't mean like fat cuz he wasn't.

[Dacen]

She was saying like, the mom from Dumbo, like, his mom's name is Jumbo.

[Drew]

I just thought it was mean.

[Dacen]

And so we were laughing.

[Olivia]

I love that one.

[Dacen]

And then her teacher is trying to make her apologize. And Drew said, no, I'd rather sit here in the naughty chair. I'm not getting up and saying sorry.

[Drew]

Yeah, she made me go sit in the thinking chair. And then it was like, you have to like, think about what you did. And then you have to like, address it. And she's like, if you go apologize, you can get up. And I was like, I mean, I would, but like, I'm not sorry, so. And she was like, so you'd rather sit here? And I said, yeah. So I sat there the whole time and she called my mom and she laughed because she was like, I cannot believe she sat there the whole time, arms crossed. I'm not apologizing to him. He deserved it. Like, I told her, that's what he gets. And I told her, if he apologizes to me, I'll apologize to him, but he's not apologizing to me, so I'm not gonna apologize to him. And I sat there the whole time.

[Ilona]

Did you Laugh a little bit when.

[Olivia]

You got the phone.

[Drew]

Call first grade.

[Ilona]

I do want.

[Olivia]

We need one for you, though, so do you mind doing some laundry?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[Olivia]

Let's do some laundry.

[Drew]

Jason hates laundry. That's so funny.

[Olivia]

Read the last text you sent your mom.

[Dacen]

I was gonna say Drew's texts to me are always really funny, too. I'll be like, dude, everyone left. Like, she just sends me that out of nowhere.

[Drew]

I know. I just text her. Everyone left recently. I don't even remember where we were at, but we were deserted.

[Dacen]

Oh, I text my mom. Okay, we're about to park, and it's. Cause we were meeting at Disneyland. Oh, and she sent me a picture of my past.

[Olivia]

And then.

[Drew]

Yeah, I'm not gonna read the rest.

[Dacen]

But that was it.

[Drew]

The other ones are.

[Olivia]

That was Disneyland, so that was recent.

[Drew]

It. Yeah, it was on my mom's birthday.

[Olivia]

Oh, my God.

[Drew]

Her. They're both SAG babies, so. SAG babies.

[Ilona]

Are you Disney adults?

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Drew]

Are you guys? I love.

[Olivia]

We haven't been to the parks, and we grew up going to the parks, but in Florida.

[Drew]

Oh, gee.

[Olivia]

Because our dad's work brought him there every year for, like, a conference. So we thought it was, like, normal to go to Disney every year growing up. What are you talking about? But we want. I love it. I love theme parks. Like, I love Universal.

[Drew]

And you guys have never been to Disneyland, though. No. We gotta go together.

[Olivia]

Disney, bring us all.

[Drew]

Yeah, we gotta go.

[Ilona]

What do you do? Is it rides?

[Drew]

Yeah, there's lots of rides.

[Dacen]

Yes.

[Drew]

Yes. There's tons of rides. Lots of eateries.

[Dacen]

There's lots of food, too. Like, it's really fun. Yeah. Especially during Christmas. It's so cute.

[Drew]

Either.

[Olivia]

We gotta do that. I also am obsessed with, like, drinking around the world videos and Epcot. I wanna do that really quick.

[Drew]

We tried. You know what's so funny? We've tried twice. Yeah. My brother turned 21 this summer, and he's a cancer baby, so his birthday's in July. And so we all went to Florida and we did, like, Disney World. We did all the parks and then we did Universal. Epic. All of that. So it was like a whole thing.

[Ilona]

It was really fun.

[Drew]

And we were like, let's drink around the world. And then by the time we got there, we did two countries, sat down, parked it, got drunk there. And then we're like, let's go. We didn't even make it.

[Ilona]

We went.

[Olivia]

So the way you vlog.

[Drew]

Yeah, essentially. And the first time we ever went to Disney World, we started on the other side the of. Of the world. Like that. This time we started at Mexico. The other time we started at Canada, and we started that one. We made it, like, three or four countries got so trashed. And then we were like, I'm old and hot and sweaty. Let's go sit down. I have a headache.

[Dacen]

You have to keep getting drunk so your headache goes away. Yeah, I'm going to die. It's.

[Drew]

And we went in the summer again, too, so it was like, oh, my God. Unbearably hot. Have you guys ever made it all the way around the world?

[Olivia]

We've never, so we haven't been. I want to do that. I just watch a lot of videos.

[Dacen]

I think it's easier if you, like, buy one drink and every. Everyone shares it.

[Drew]

Oh.

[Dacen]

Yeah. You'll be like, oh, yeah, I'll drink a beer by the time I get to America. And that's halfway through. And you're like, there's no way doing it.

[Drew]

Yeah. Like, the first time we did it, we were just necking drinks. Like, we were like, each of us individual. Yeah. Like, catching up to our friends. Oh, my God, it was so bad. And then by Japan, I was like, so I'm gonna stop. I think I'm done drinking. I'm gonna throw up a little bit.

[Olivia]

But you're all beautiful, and I love you, truly.

[Drew]

I love you guys.

[Olivia]

Okay. I love it. Thank you for helping out around the house.

[Drew]

Oh, my gosh, you guys are so welcome.

[Olivia]

You and your keep. All right, let's do some tea time. This is just kind of where we. I guess you got it. Spill the tea.

[Ilona]

You talked about it a little bit, but, like, I guess, you know, humor is built with the people you're around. Like, my sisters, I would say, are my big influence in humor. Where do you get not only your humor, but also, like, the skills to, you know, we call it roasting, but to. To clap back, to say your piece to people online. Is that from your family dynamic or how you were raised?

[Drew]

Yeah, I would say it's like a combination of just generally my own brazen, delusional confidence. And also how I was raised, like, the environment we were raised in, culturally. Samoan people. I mean, you play rugby.

[Ilona]

I know a few.

[Drew]

Plenty of Samoan people. They love to make fun of people. They love to roast you. Even if it's kinda mean. It's always funny. It's a lot of. Yeah. It's always out of love, and it's like a love language of theirs. And so, like, when I was Younger, like, believe it or not, I could, like, never take a joke when I was younger. And I would get so angry, and I would get so frustrated, and I would cry. Even if I was like, two minutes before that, I was laughing at someone else getting up. Then they target me. I'm like, wow, guys, really? And I was being kind of like a Debbie Downer about it. And I remember my mom told me once, like, if you're gonna tell jokes, you have to learn how to take jokes. Like, no one wants to joke around with someone who can't take a joke. So I, like, kind of learned that the hard way a little bit. Jason's always been good at taking jokes.

[Dacen]

I was gonna say, too, is like, because our parents had us so young. So it was like the cast of friends just making fun of, like, one of their kids.

[Drew]

They're like, boy, boy, boy to us all the time. Wait, I'm like, four. Wait, no, seriously, like, four. Fighting for my life.

[Audriana]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Dreams. Crying. Yeah. Me still learning how to make fun. I'm like, what references can I use? I'm not. So I think it was, like, just our environment and, like, culturally, like, that's just how I got. I would say it was one of those where it's like, you get good fast, so it's like you're like, okay, I don't want to get left behind, so I'm gonna have to think of funny things. I have to be wittier. And I think just as I got older, I got faster and faster. And even when we went on tour last year for my book thing and we did a Two Idiot Girls tour, we had our whole team, our family, everybody was with us and in our family environment, too. My cousin Adam works with us. My parents are involved. My man. All of us are Samoans. Yeah. We all like to make fun of each other, including our friends and family. So it was funny to watch our friends kind of realize pretty quickly, like, oh, shit, I don't want to get made fun of. So they start getting faster, making fun of each other, making jokes faster, quicker. It's like, sharpening the song, I think. But it's really fun, and I think that's why it's never bothered me when men say awful things to me. Cause they're not funny, first of all. But second of all, trust me when I say I know how to take a job. Like, when they're like, oh, how would you feel if I caught you a fucking fat cow? I don't care. Go ahead.

[Olivia]

Hilarious.

[Audriana]

I heard that at 9 years old, yeah, honestly.

[Drew]

Honestly, I highly encourage it. If you do it, please tag me. Like, I'd love to see it. Like, I love a good joke. You make jokes first.

[Ilona]

And then I'll go, do you ever go too far? Do you ever, like, days and have to be like, hey, Drew, No.

[Drew]

Or have you ever, like, internally, like, in family?

[Ilona]

No, just, like, even online as well. Cause, like, when I post, like, they check over a lot of stuff I do. Are you, like, that checks balances? Like, are you the classic older scissor kind of?

[Dacen]

I think it's funny.

[Drew]

Well, to men, yeah. But I do run a lot of.

[Dacen]

Stuff by her, like, a million percent.

[Drew]

Like, especially stuff where I'm like, I really want to talk about this, but I feel like it's a little choppy, like, the way I'm rolling it out. So sometimes I'll record a video and then I'll send it to her, and I'll be like, what do you think about this? And she'll be like, I'd cut this part. I'd cut that part. Like, she's. A lot of my checks and balances are her. And, like, my man, too. Like, and then my mom also, but. But especially for TikTok videos, I, like, always, I'm like, let me call my sister, and I'll ask her, and she'll give me her two cents.

[Olivia]

Sometimes when she checks something by us, we go, well, what do you think? If you're already asking it? If you're already saying, like, should you does it in that case?

[Drew]

Or it's just like, yeah, that's the.

[Dacen]

First thing Billy always says.

[Drew]

Yeah, like, he's like. And sometimes she'll ask me, like, well, what do you want to say? Like, before I even watch this, like, what are you upset about? And why do you want to say something? Why are you trying to get across? Yeah, so she can hear me say it, like, organically and in earnest. And then she'll be like, okay, well, then what did you say in the video? And then I'll say that, and then I'll send it to her, and she'll be like, okay, well, I think your message is getting not across clear in this part. In this part, whatever. So she normally asked me, just tell me what you're upset about and why. Yeah, like, that's what she'll ask me first. So.

[Olivia]

Yeah, that's the beauty of working with family, seriously. And it's like, you have each other, but also you have your mama, who I feel like is girl boss number one.

[Drew]

Right? One of our Managers.

[Olivia]

Exactly. So she. And she also was always like, I think I've heard from you. Like she was the boss, like growing up. And so you watched that, you know, Absolutely. Your whole life.

[Drew]

Our mom's been the breadwinner, like most of our lives. So like our dad, our dad has never ever had qualms with like being at home. Like, my dad literally has told us to our face multiple times. He's like, my dream is to be a house husband. Like, I just want to take care of the kids and like clean up and maybe cook, eat dinner and like, stuff. Like, my dad's dream is to be at home all the time. And he loves his, he loves his children, he loves spending time with his wife. So it's like that idea of it being like, that's a woman's job is so foreign to us. Like, and I think that's another thing too, of like when men say, I'm like, I'm fatherless because I fucking hate men, Whatever the fuck cheap summation they make of my content. It's actually quite the opposite. Like, we've had nothing but positive male role models. So like, I know what men are capable of and this should. Isn't it. Like, when I started dating, I said, my own dad doesn't act like that. Like even I'm going to let you treat me like that, like you're nuts. So like we've had nothing but positive male role models in our lives, which is why the bar has always been very high for me. And thankfully she's a lesbian, so she didn't worry about that. She's good, she's cool off that money better. But yeah, so we really like, we like connect on that. We like, we both hate men. Yes.

[Ilona]

Are you a classic older sister type?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

Where I like organize everything or I do everything first?

[Drew]

Yeah. We call her Admin. She's like a family.

[Dacen]

I'm like tech. Yeah. In house tech.

[Drew]

So anytime my mom's like, what was the password I used for my TJ Maxx home goods account? And my sister goes, I don't, I don't know, probably this.

[Dacen]

She goes, okay, but what email do.

[Drew]

You think I use? Yeah, but what email do you think I use? Like anytime they're like, I don't know how to log into this. I'm like, we'll just call days tech support. Yeah.

[Dacen]

Like, Drew bought her a cricut for her birthday. And then I said, no, you bought me a cricut to learn how to make. To teach my mom.

[Drew]

Cuz I was going to be like, ah, Margarita, when she looks at you, you could just show me how to do it. I was like, Jason's like, she helped me do my FAFSA every year. I was.

[Dacen]

Even after I graduated, I was still logging in.

[Drew]

Yeah. She was like. I was like, dude, can you just help me, please? And she was. She would just log in and do it for me. And she's like, just sign these things. And I'd be like, great, thanks. Thank you.

[Olivia]

Whose idea was Two Idiot Girls? How did that come into fruition?

[Drew]

I think both of us. Yeah, it was actually started both. I think we can all sing.

[Olivia]

We all can sing.

[Drew]

Yeah. We both wanted to do it. I think it's cause. I mean, you guys know this. Cause sisters. But, like, I can yap my ass off and so can she. And, like, we love to tell each other's stories. I'm sure you guys know this too. We love to repeat stories. The amount of times we repeat our own jokes to each other, and we're like, this is fucking hilarious. What was the thing you said? Yeah, we were laughing, and we, like, just make each other laugh. And that was why it was funny in your intro. You said, like, she's one of the few people that can get me to break. That's very true. Like, she. She makes me laugh so hard. It's crazy. So I think the genesis of two Idiot girls was like, we love story times. We love, like, sister time. And we're like, we make each other laugh. Yeah, we love to talk. So we were like, let's just like, fucking start something. And like, we did it in 2021. Oh, okay. Yeah, 2021. She's also the archivist.

[Dacen]

Yes, that's right.

[Drew]

She remembers. She also remembers literally everything. Sometimes I'll ask her, and she goes, goes, no, that's not what happened.

[Dacen]

And I'm like, oh, yeah, they live in San Diego. No, they don't.

[Drew]

I'm like, no, they're literally from San Diego. And she goes, they're from.

[Olivia]

You have a scroll that unflurls.

[Drew]

You're like, she's like, they're from Vermont. I'm like, I'm gonna ask them when I get there. And then you guys were talking about Vermont. I go, uh, oh, I told you. Why would I make that up? Okay. Me not Googling it. I'm like, I'm gonna go straight to the source. Yeah.

[Ilona]

I have noticed that with mine sisters, too, is how much whenever, like, we'll tell a story, and then if I'm, like, seeing somebody and I You know, I'll tell it to other people. They will hear that story 10 different times, and they're ready to share it again. We'll tell them about that and then look at the pictures. They.

[Drew]

But don't they. So supportive. I love that you got it. They love. And it's like you're workshopping the story till it's perfect.

[Audriana]

Every single time goes word for word. And then, like, you'll see it be like, oh, she did that one.

[Olivia]

Oh, she made a switch.

[Drew]

She's improving it.

[Dacen]

She changed the order.

[Olivia]

And it's working better. It is.

[Dacen]

And there's like, my turn.

[Drew]

You know, there's, like, certain points in your story where you're like, this kills every time. And even. And honestly, what's funny is, like, even if no one else laughs, if she's there, if she's gonna laugh. Yeah, she's already heard it, but she's gonna laugh.

[Ilona]

Exactly.

[Olivia]

On a freaking laugh that's alone. Like, she does so many interviews, and they always ask her the same thing, like, what's it like being on so unapologetically?

[Drew]

Or z, you're telling me.

[Olivia]

And she just, like, has these answers that, like, I'm literally. If you put a camera on me.

[Dacen]

Off camera, I could be like.

[Drew]

Or canned. Yeah.

[Audriana]

Beat her body like a glove.

[Olivia]

Literally. I'm saying it word for word, Rugby. Fit her body like a glove.

[Ilona]

And so she can genuinely. Because I will. Like, we want to do on a prep call and ask some questions that we're gonna ask her. I don't like to know questions. I'd rather just come in and you tell me, but she'll be there. And we were taking a call once to prepare for a show. And Louis, like, well, you see, she started rugby when she was in high school because she didn't wanna play softball anymore. And then. Exactly what I was gonna say. Cause she, in many ways, is always, always there listening. And we'll hear the same story. I mean, you've heard how I've started rugby. I would upwards of 500 times.

[Olivia]

And, like, I was there.

[Audriana]

I saw it.

[Dacen]

I witnessed it firsthand.

[Olivia]

I witnessed it first.

[Drew]

I was on the sidelines.

[Audriana]

I was.

[Olivia]

Yeah, that's my truth as well, so. And we were on a set recently, too, where somebody was like, don't you want to come sit in this fancy, plush green room with us? I was like, I think I should be nearby. Because literally, we're not even, like, 20 minutes into it. She goes, olivia, what was that thing I did?

[Drew]

I do that all the time. I'm always, dace, what was that thing? If she's always sitting there, I don't give a fuck if any camera's on me. I'm like, dace, what was that thing I said the other day? Even on my show, too, I've said that. I joke that I mentioned my sister's a lesbian at least once every episode, and it's my hidden mickey. So it's like every episode, it's in there somewhere. You have to find it. I will bring it up, and I will bring up my lesbian sister.

[Olivia]

Are you at every comment section recording?

[Dacen]

There's probably only been two episodes.

[Drew]

I haven't been there.

[Olivia]

You haven't been there because that's where we first met, was when Ilona was on and I got to meet all you guys.

[Ilona]

Here's the story of Olivia and I are sitting in the green room. Drew walks by, looks in, walks away.

[Drew]

I was like, oh, okay.

[Dacen]

She is terrible.

[Drew]

You know, it is because you didn't.

[Ilona]

Have your glasses on.

[Drew]

Just terrible.

[Ilona]

So you didn't see us.

[Olivia]

So she looks at us.

[Drew]

I know you brought in.

[Dacen]

She probably thought she saw someone. And she's like, no one's in there. And she's looking at the wind.

[Drew]

I said, must have been the wind.

[Ilona]

No, Olivia and I were, like, looking at each other.

[Olivia]

I was like, I think that was okay.

[Audriana]

Can I say I was there as well.

[Drew]

I didn't see you. I don't know. How am I going to fly? See? Maybe I walked by you and then I couldn't see you. But you remember that?

[Dacen]

I was like, well, okay, she can't see any.

[Ilona]

I just hold off until we're in front of you.

[Drew]

I was like, don't want to spoil it. We're not rolling. Sorry. No, it's quite literally, it's my terrible fucking vision. Also, that studio wasn't like, oh, my.

[Dacen]

God, we went to an event.

[Olivia]

Oh, no.

[Dacen]

And there was this person that had curly hair.

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Dacen]

And Drew goes, is that so? And so. And I go, that's a woman and.

[Drew]

That'S a stud lesbian.

[Dacen]

And I said, right.

[Drew]

And I said, wow, I really need to start wearing my glasses.

[Olivia]

So no contact lenses.

[Drew]

I have contacts. But, like, that's the thing is, like, sometimes when I go to things, like, late at night, like, I also have chronic dry eye. Me just giving you my rundown. I have, like, an astigmatism. I have chronic dry eye, and I have terrible vision. So, like. And also, I smoke a lot of weed. That's besides the point. And so I Also, my eyes will dry out so badly that sometimes if I have work all fucking day and I'm working at night, I'm like, well, I don't need these. And I just take them out, and I literally just walk around for. With no, like, blur. Like, it literally looks like this. I walk around like this, and I'm.

[Dacen]

Like, so when people are coming up to say hi to her, it's like that scene in the Devil Rose Prada where she's telling Meryl Streep, everyone, right? That's that lady.

[Drew]

And I'll be like. And I'll just say, oh, it's so nice to see you. Like, I say something nondescript if I genuinely don't remember this person, but I feel like maybe they've met me before. Only once has it tripped me up. But I did save myself because I was like, oh, it's so nice to see you, girl. It's nice to meet you. That's what I said. And she goes, we've met before. Oh, God. And then I go. She virtually. I immediately go, we have, haven't we? And she goes, yeah. I go, and you had different hair. Your hair was not. Your hair was blonde, was it not? And then she goes, it was blonde. I am a new brunette. I was like, I knew it, girl. And you got bangs, period.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Drew]

And then after that, I said, yeah.

[Olivia]

You just pulled that out of your ass.

[Drew]

Yeah, girl. Well, actually, no, I did know she was blonde, and I did have a second where I was like, a name.

[Dacen]

Clicked with the face.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

You met her on Zoom.

[Drew]

I feel like that sounded funny. Yes, I did. I met her on Zoom count as well. Right. And you have to say, it was.

[Audriana]

Nice to e. Meet you.

[Ilona]

You're not me.

[Drew]

Right. And also, you guys know I. We meet a million people.

[Dacen]

I was gonna ask you, do you guys ever have people that are, like, rude to you guys? Like, they're so excited to meet Alona.

[Drew]

Oh. And they're dismissing of you.

[Dacen]

And they're like, I could give a About your sister. What are you doing over here? Because that's happened to me.

[Drew]

Has that happened to you?

[Dacen]

And then I told you. And guess who's not coming on the comment section, because I remembered who was you.

[Olivia]

We do have one thing like that where, like, I was at a. An event, and I was talking to this person, being so lovely, and, like, I was asking them and their partner, like, a bunch of questions, and Adriana's here with me, and, like, she would kind of chime in, and then we left and then she goes, she didn't look at me like once. Like, she didn't ask me a single question. She was like, sat right there. And I was like, that's it. Blacklisted for my life. We didn't have this show or anything.

[Drew]

Like nothing. And if I have a show, if I have a show ever. You're done.

[Olivia]

You're not.

[Drew]

No. That's so real.

[Olivia]

Look at me now.

[Drew]

I never forget stuff like that. And she's not wrong. Like, I've said no to many people that were rude one fucking time. Yep. And it's because that's all I need. Like, I understand too though that sometimes like people are moving quickly and maybe they're having a bad day, whatever. That wasn't the case. But it was like when it's very blatant and like almost violent, I'm like, have a nice night, girl. Yeah. Cause I can't be rude. Cause I'm also at work. But like, unless it's like assault or something, I can't do anything. So right. Whenever that happens, I just go, all right, have a nice night. Bye now. And then I'll never see you again.

[Olivia]

Interesting.

[Drew]

But you guys are like that. You guys are tight knit.

[Audriana]

Like us being in Mexico for Thanksgiving was fun, but I'm so excited to be home for Christmas.

[Olivia]

Yeah, it's going to be awesome to be in Vermont. I'm going to admit it though, I'm a little nervous about actually getting there.

[Ilona]

I wonder how many people travel back home for the holidays. It has to be like a lot.

[Audriana]

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[Olivia]

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[Ilona]

You know what that sounds like to me? A lot of people are getting pre check and even those lines are gonna be busy.

[Audriana]

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[Olivia]

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[Ilona]

Discover fast and reliable search with Perplexity. Today I have fans. You know my, my platform is like women body parts. So a lot of Women come up to me, and they're like. Immediately, like, feel as if I'm a friend. And they're very touchy.

[Drew]

I get the hug. The touching thing is crazy. Do you not. Do you like being touched?

[Ilona]

I don't mind it, actually.

[Drew]

You're right, because.

[Ilona]

But I am sorry. I was like, whoa. Like, I've had people sometimes pull me.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Ilona]

And then, like, I'll be on a run, and they're like, alona. I'm like, I'm on a run.

[Drew]

I just stopped.

[Olivia]

We were on a run in London.

[Audriana]

And people were like.

[Olivia]

So she wasn't stopping when they recognized her. She's clearly doing her job.

[Ilona]

I'm setting up pace here.

[Drew]

What the hell?

[Ilona]

Do you have that as well, where fans feel like they know you?

[Drew]

All of them do. Yes, all of them do. And it's, like, a lot like, it's. And I'm someone who hates being touched, really. I hate being touched. Like, the. Like, by anyone, really. Like, the only person who can touch me and it doesn't ever bother me is my man. Like, everybody else. Even, like, she's very touchy feely. Like, she made this joke the other day where she's like, I always know when you're, like, kind of sad. Cause you let me hold your hand.

[Dacen]

Oh, my God. Let me touch you.

[Drew]

She's like, and you let me, like, hold your hand and, like, lay on you or hug you. Yeah. I'm like, it's just something about me, like. And don't diagnose me. I. Please don't. I've already been diagnosed with that. But, like, my man's the only one who can. So, like, with fans and, like, also, you guys know this too. Cause you're taller. The way that they treat us sometimes. I'm like, girl, don't treat me like you're a man. What are you nuts? If you hold. If you stand next to me and you put your hand on my belly, I'm gonna get mad. If you pose with me like we're posing for prom. I'm pissed off. Yeah. Because they masculinize me, too, to an extent, because I'm, like, mean to men. So they're like. They do, like, love me and, like, love my work and stuff, which is great. But I think it's like, the boundary gets kind of blurred sometimes. So sometimes I have had to say multiple times, like, whoa, girl, no touching.

[Ilona]

Love you, though.

[Drew]

Let's take a picture.

[Ilona]

You do it in, like, a funny way.

[Drew]

Yeah. I have to, like, redirect it because I Don't want to be rude. And I understand Coachella story. Which one?

[Dacen]

When we were trying to go see Blink 182.

[Drew]

Oh, God. And I didn't even want to watch. Yeah, I didn't even want to watch that. I didn't want to watch them either. That was my fault. Yeah. We were like, this is our first. And this makes it sound like gross Influencer, but it's just the truth. That was our first year doing artists, which we've never done before. So we were like, period. And then they have golf carts behind the stages that allow you to go from one to the next. But the line was taking forever. So the lady was like, it's actually quicker if you just walk through ga. And we were like, okay. I mean, we can do that. That's easy. It's not a far walk at all. And for context, Brittany was with us this year. And it was like, Brittany and us and my man and my brother in law and like, we were all in a group and we got, like, squished because it was. There were so many people that we had to, like, walk in a single file line. And me and Brittany were in the very middle. And Dace was like, right by us too. And it felt like that scene in Game of Thrones where he's like, the Battle of the Bastards, where he's like, suffocating under all the bodies. Like World War Z when all the zombies bring that plane down. Like, that's how it felt. Like, it literally was like. Like it was like they were grabbing and. And yanking and like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Like, holy shit, I can't believe it. Like, grabbing, grabbing, grabbing, yanking. And then, like, one girl tried to kiss me on the mouth.

[Olivia]

Huh?

[Drew]

Like, she literally was like, oh, my God, I'm such a big fan. Like, just started leaning in. I literally mushed her face away from me. Like, stiff arm on the face mushed her. I said, oh, girl, what the fuck? Like, I said, have you lost your mind? And she was like, sorry, I'm just like this huge fan. And then just kept walking. And I was like, well, if anyone makes a video about that, I know what to say, but. And it was so bad. It was just like the most overwhelming, awful experience. And so we were like, never go in GA again. Got it. And it was like, that was like, probably an extreme, but most of the time it's like screaming at me. Like you were saying, when you're running.

[Dacen]

We'Re all pretty trained. Like, if we hear Drew. Drew. None of us look.

[Drew]

None of us. Just keep up.

[Ilona]

Oh, really?

[Drew]

Yeah. Everybody's on the same page now.

[Dacen]

That girl. Look, you have to. That girl wants a picture.

[Drew]

I think, like, I feel like one of the worst things I've ever had, too, was someone once DMed me pictures of myself in Downtown Disney. And I looked like I had been crying, but I also looked like I could have just been looking in the sun. Like, I couldn't really. And she was like, chronic dry eye and contouring process. You heard about my ailments? Your conditions? My conditions? Yeah, my itis. And so she sent me pictures of my own face and then was like, hey, girl. Saw that you looked like you were crying in Downtown Disney. Hope you and Billie are okay. What? Like, where did you. First of all, don't watch me do things if I'm crying in Downtown Disney. Let me mind my own business there. But I didn't even remember the day. That was, like, one time I had a girl. Actually, this has happened, like, three or four times where someone has told me they saw me at their place of business. Like, I was in the place they work, and they were like, oh, my God. Like, have you come here before? And then I'll go, yeah, I have been here before. And they'll be like, I knew it. Cause I saw you on the security cameras. I literally went and looked. Oh, yeah.

[Dacen]

My friends, one time, we were getting our eyebrows. What is it called? Laminated.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

We were doing it at the benefit counter in the middle of a Macy's, which is probably not the best idea.

[Drew]

Which is humbling. It's probably not the best idea.

[Dacen]

So I was sitting there with, like.

[Drew]

You ever got them laminated? You're sitting in the middle of. Like, they're jet black. There's a girl.

[Dacen]

I walked up, she was like, I saw you on the security camera here, and I came over to make sure it was you.

[Drew]

Saran wrap on my face.

[Dacen]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Drew]

And I'm like. And she goes, can we get a picture? I go, I mean, now's probably not the best time. Okay, I'll wait. I'll wait. I get off in an hour, so I'll come back. She goes, I'll just watch you on the tapes. Oh, perfect.

[Ilona]

Awesome.

[Olivia]

What about yourself as, like, a queer creator in queer spaces, People that come up to you.

[Drew]

What is that?

[Dacen]

I was just talking about this with my dad because I went to Gossip Girl in San Diego, a lesbian bar.

[Drew]

I wasn't looking at you because you're a lesbian alone. Never beating the allegations. She serves an hour.

[Olivia]

For real.

[Dacen]

So, no, I went with my friends. I've gone a couple of times. So I would rather people come say hi or that they recognize me than me think no one sees me in here. And then I'm being slutty and nasty in the middle of the dance floor, and they're. They'll DM me and be like, looked like you had a good time last night.

[Drew]

I hate that don't watch me, girl. Don't watch me do things.

[Dacen]

But the last time I went, it was pretty bad.

[Olivia]

So was it?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

Like, there was one girl that she came up with her girlfriend. They were really nice. And it was like I was doing a meet and greet.

[Drew]

So I was like, who's next?

[Audriana]

Next picture?

[Drew]

Because I'm also drunk, so I don't know how to say no.

[Dacen]

And then she came with her girlfriend. I like, was like, does your girlfriend want a picture? So I was doing, like, different combinations. Me and her.

[Drew]

Me, her and the girlfriend. Me, her, and the girlfriend. Like different angles.

[Dacen]

And their friend.

[Drew]

That was silly one.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

No, serious. And so the friend, I asked like, oh, does your friend want a picture? And she was like, yeah. And she mute was like, can I kiss you?

[Drew]

And I go.

[Dacen]

And she goes, can I kiss you?

[Drew]

I go, for the picture.

[Dacen]

She's like, yeah. And I go, no.

[Olivia]

Good for you, though.

[Drew]

No, you can kiss me on the cheek.

[Dacen]

And she goes, why'd you say that?

[Drew]

I go, I don't know. I didn't know what to say. No, I said, girl, next time just be like. Like, no, we can take a normal picture.

[Dacen]

It's too much.

[Olivia]

Full sentence.

[Drew]

Yeah, exactly. No.

[Dacen]

Then a lot on tour, we had girls that would come to the meet and greets and be like, yeah, you're like my celebrity crush. I go, that's crazy.

[Drew]

Yeah. They're like, I'd love to take you to coffee. And we're like, hey, you know what's funny is I was like, what did you say? Tell the joke you made. When we first took off on tour.

[Dacen]

You were like, someone had commented on one of my videos, I'm coming to these shows. I could not remember which one ones they were for the life of me, right? She's like, I'm coming to these shows, and I'm gonna propose to you at the meet and greet.

[Drew]

And I told you.

[Dacen]

And I don't remember what shows they were. I don't know what video it was that she wrote on. And every show I live in fear.

[Drew]

Yes, Every show I live in fear that this is the one I'll be proposed to.

[Ilona]

It's like the lights are blaring at you.

[Dacen]

You're like, someone's down somewhere.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Drew]

It's like she hears voices. Where is that coming from? No, it was like that. But she did tell me. I'm afraid of that. And I was like, okay, don't worry about it. Cause I said, I'll help you. Cause I'm gonna be standing there. So I always make a joke that overwhelms it. And then it's almost like spinning someone around before they hit a pinata. Like, I'm like, just confuse you. Yeah. And then you're like, okay, nice to meet you. So I would just do things. Like, one girl came up towards the end and was a little too forward for a meet and greet. It's like a hostage situation. I'm trapped here. You paid to come.

[Olivia]

I'm not gonna be mean.

[Drew]

And now you're making me uncomfortable. Cause you're like, well, I would love to take you to coffee. And then it's like, you want me to answer that now? The answer is no. But, like, how am I supposed to say that to you in front of all these people? Whatever. And so this girl was kind of doing that. And then I go, oh, and fuck me, I guess. And then she goes, oh, no. It's just that you're so beautiful, too. I was like, no, you know what? Save it, Save it. Just take your picture and go. And then she, like, laughed. And then we were like, okay, see ya. Okay, have a good night. And then after that, we could do that. We could, like, work around. But it was pretty bad.

[Dacen]

We do a Q and A at the end of the show. And then they'll ask me, like, jason.

[Drew]

Can I take you on a date? And I go, sure.

[Dacen]

Cause I, like, can't be mean.

[Drew]

And so Drew would be like, oh, and not me. Can I. And I'd be like, can I come? I'll have it. Yeah. So just gotta be weird and silly. You gotta out crazy. Em a little worse. So I get that.

[Olivia]

You got it.

[Drew]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Olivia]

Those are such a fabulous part about you. You always.

[Drew]

Yeah, these are people.

[Ilona]

Everyone take a drink.

[Drew]

Drew's lesbian.

[Dacen]

I'd wanted to get long nails forever. And then I was dating someone for a really long time. We thought it was, like, a waste of money. And then as soon as we broke up, Drew was like, her. And get your nails done. So I love getting my nails done. And then it wasn't until I, like, was like, yeah, I'm a Lesbian. Cuz I was like doing that thing where I was like, I don't know, maybe I like guys. I don't, I don't want them to talk to me. Then I started doing the two short ones. So then when people do ask me about it and I, I don't feel like talking about like, I'll go like, I'm a lesbian. And they go, what does that mean? I go, nevermind. So I'll be like, oh, I love playing guitar. I like to bowl guitar. It helps me pick things up off the ground.

[Ilona]

Which it does.

[Dacen]

But yeah, I don't know, I just, I'm used to him now.

[Olivia]

We were just talking about hair theory and I feel like you got nail theory going on. Like, love your nails whenever you post about them or see them. And I had one break, I had longer nails over the summer and I had one break in when we were in England for the World cup around all of the other rugby players from around the world and it broke. And the person at the nail salon there couldn't do an extension. So I had these really long nails and one short one. And I was like, it's my DASA nails.

[Ilona]

And then she goes around five of my other teammates. All gay.

[Olivia]

All gay.

[Drew]

Props basically.

[Ilona]

Hey guys, I get it now.

[Olivia]

I'm one of you now.

[Drew]

I don't want to shock anyone in case anyone sees my short nail.

[Audriana]

That was like her story that she, she was like getting better.

[Drew]

Might as well pick up that one.

[Ilona]

At some point even I'll be like, and then you should see Olivia's nails too.

[Drew]

Set her up.

[Olivia]

I got the woman loving woman special.

[Ilona]

Everyone starts laughing.

[Drew]

Woah, there you go.

[Ilona]

The laughs we have when we.

[Olivia]

The laughs. Let's talk. We were talking that. Can we talk about wedding stuff? Related engagement. Are you planning a wedding? Are you, are you stressed? What's happening?

[Drew]

I'm not stressed right now, which is a good thing. I am stressed about not being stressed, so that's something else to unpack entirely. But no, it's going great. Planning for sure. Gonna get married next year. Very exciting. It is next year.

[Dacen]

That's crazy.

[Drew]

Yeah. 2026.

[Olivia]

In 2026.

[Drew]

Yes.

[Audriana]

Oh my God.

[Drew]

We're very excited. It's gonna be, I think, a good time. We're excited. I also like like shifted the dynamic of my wedding because I think initially I was like, oh, I'll have like a medium sized wedding, which was like a fuck ton of people. And then like, I was like, yeah, that's what I want to do. And then I started thinking about table settings and, like, people sitting next to each other and, like, who to put next to each other. And then I was like, that makes me want to kill myself. Yeah, I'm going to change it. So then we reworked the entire thing, and now it's far more, I think.

[Dacen]

Us and, like, intimate, for sure.

[Drew]

Yeah, it's a lot more intimate. A lot more private, small. Like, that's what I really wanted. Because this sounds like a flex, but it's not. I just, like. I just want to get married.

[Audriana]

Yeah.

[Drew]

So, like, I don't really. I want to have a big thing, but, like, the more important thing is I just want to be married. So that's really it. So I'm not really too keen on, like, huge wedding. Huge this. At first I thought I was, and thankfully I'm not.

[Olivia]

And you almost feel like the bigger the wedding it is, the more it is for other people.

[Drew]

Yeah, it is, like, stress for everyone, including myself. And I'm, like, so, so busy right now that it's like. I also didn't wanna. Like, I didn't want the planning of my wedding to be tainted by work. Like, I'm so stressed about this now. I'm stressed about the wedding and, like, I didn't wanna feel anything negative towards the wedding. So now that we're in this new phase of planning, I'm happy as clam.

[Olivia]

How much input does he have?

[Audriana]

Is he, like.

[Drew]

Does he have a Pinterest board?

[Audriana]

What's he doing?

[Drew]

No, he loves it. He loves everything about it. Like, we're very, like, involved together on it. He's obviously. I do most of the talking always, just generally speaking in our relationship.

[Ilona]

I need one of those.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Me, one girl. You need someone who can listen.

[Ilona]

Just does not talk.

[Drew]

I made this joke to my mom and sister actually, on the way down here, and I was, like, talking about. I was like, this sounds mean, but I don't mean it literally. Like, seen but not heard. Like, that's my kind of man. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's only one star, baby, and it's me.

[Ilona]

Yeah. No, for real.

[Olivia]

That's literally what she says.

[Ilona]

I had a guy around recently and we were hanging out with. With, like, my two friends, my sisters, and he was there. Just one guy.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Ilona]

And I mean, they are the fun. My two friends from my team are the funniest people ever. They're funny. And then he would, like. He would be like. I think he was nervous, so he'd, like, say a little thing and I.

[Drew]

Was like, shh, you're embarrassing me.

[Ilona]

The funniest people you've ever met are talking.

[Drew]

Hey, watch and learn. Shut up. Like, I didn't want to be mean.

[Olivia]

Cause I, like, I wanted.

[Ilona]

It was like, it's new or whatever. So I was like.

[Drew]

No, but that's fortress.

[Ilona]

No, but listen to this.

[Drew]

Yeah. Oh, it's gonna get really good.

[Olivia]

I'm like, you should stop talking now.

[Drew]

Listen. Oh, there's nothing worse.

[Ilona]

The girls are so good. They'd be like, yeah. Like, almost talking to.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Because women are so kind and empathetic.

[Dacen]

They like, inclusive.

[Drew]

Okay. And they're like, oh, yeah. And then I say, and women are good at fake laughing. So, like, when I first started dating my man, actually, Dason told me this. I think it was, like, we were official for, like, a couple. She goes, I gotta tell you something, dude. And I go, what? And she goes, I don't think he's that funny. And I said, you shut your fucking mouth. And I was like, that's not true. That's not true. That's not true, dude. That's not true. He is funny. And she's like, nah, I'm telling you. I'm just like. I've heard a couple things. And I'm just like, I'm not convinced. She's like, I'm just not convinced right now. When I tell you I saw my man the next time. I said, listen to me carefully. Next time you see my family, I need you to get the lead out, all right? I need you to go to that top shelf and bring every joke to. That's a banger.

[Dacen]

We're not shopping them now.

[Drew]

I'm not kidding. And I mean this in earnest. Like, I would rather my family think he's ugly. Like, I would rather that. I'd rather them be like, he's ugly. And I'd be like, but he's hilarious. Who cares? I would rather that be the case. Because the fact that she said, not funny. I said, I can't have that stain on my record. Are you nuts?

[Olivia]

Right?

[Drew]

There were men that never made it home. Cause I said, you won't last a day in my house. You won't last a day. You can't even last with me, with my mom and sister. Are you nuts? So I was like. I told my. I literally told him. I was like, you need to retire these other jokes. Cause they're not hitting. And they're like, those jokes, okay? So my man. You guys know what he looks like his prime moth to a flame is like, an older white dude, right? And they're like, hey, big guy. I like big guy. Like, I play football too. Like, that's the kind of guy that he attracts. So when he makes, like, dumbass jokes that, like, work for dads, like, obviously they're gonna laugh. My family, a family of comedians. Are you crazy?

[Ilona]

Are you out of your mind?

[Drew]

I was like, you need to really, for real, pull it out. Cause I swear to God, I can't have you in my family and not be funny.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Ilona]

Okay.

[Drew]

No, there's no way. And, like, now he's funny. Like, now she knows after a while, but, like, still.

[Olivia]

So there is hope, because we go on dates. And she came back one time, she was like, I don't think he's funny. And Adriana, like, what did you say?

[Ilona]

I stumped her.

[Audriana]

And I was like, have you ever found a man funny?

[Drew]

Right?

[Ilona]

And I was like, well, there's.

[Audriana]

Because every guy that you go on.

[Drew]

A date with, you're always like, I just.

[Audriana]

I don't know if he's that funny. And, like, that's a big thing for her, for all of us.

[Drew]

Yeah, it's true.

[Audriana]

They need to be funny, intelligent, funny. They're never gonna be as funny as the funniest.

[Drew]

Yeah. And if you make peace with that, it makes it easier. Like, you're never gonna be on my level or my sister's, but you gotta be able to pace with us. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? You know, like, when you pace as runners, there's always someone at the very back that's just kind of holding the back. That's him. He's gotta be the caboose. Everybody else. Everybody needs neighbor. Like, you're at the back. You're barely pacing with us, but you're there. That's my man. That's your man. Even when I asked him, I was like, do you think you're. Who do you think's funnier? Like, I asked him that once. It's low key. A loaded question. Low key. But I was like, who do you think's funnier? And he goes, I think you're funnier. And I go, you're right. That's the right answer. So I'm glad you said that. And he was like, I think I'm funny. I just don't think I'm as funny as you. And I think you're more funny to more people. And I was like, that's my man.

[Ilona]

I think that was me realizing that, cuz I always say I want a man to make me Laugh. But in the same way, I have so many women in my life who make me laugh. Like my teammates, they're never going to.

[Drew]

Be on the same level and it's.

[Ilona]

Not going to be the same. So I think that was kind of an eye opening thing. Like, oh, they don't have to be extremely funny.

[Drew]

Like, I.

[Ilona]

If you can get my humor and, like, think I'm funny. So you say a little fun things here and there. We have funny timer.

[Drew]

Little quick one, too. A little quick one. We were.

[Ilona]

This guy I was seeing like a couple years ago, we were all hanging out and he said a joke one weekend and it was like, really funny at the time. And so they all laughed.

[Dacen]

Oh, did he repeat it?

[Ilona]

He tried the joke the next weekend again. And I was like, it's giving, little brother. I was so embarrassed. I was like, oh, God.

[Olivia]

Because they were like, they didn't look.

[Ilona]

Up from their phones.

[Drew]

They just kept scrolling.

[Olivia]

And I was like, it's when your.

[Drew]

Girls are around your unfunny date. Oh, no, no. He's a reflection of me.

[Olivia]

The equivalent of someone like, like trying to get you to ask them something. Do you know what I mean? Like, oh, this is so funny.

[Ilona]

Or that's exactly what he was doing.

[Drew]

I was like, yeah, Jason jokes all the time. That when I make a joke and she doesn't laugh, she. I always go.

[Dacen]

She goes, what's wrong with you?

[Drew]

Well, what is wrong with you?

[Dacen]

Or she goes, did you hear what I said?

[Drew]

I said, bro, did you hear me? She goes, yeah, I did. I go, okay, well, what's wrong with you then? Like, because I'm so good as I have a hundred. A hundred, one hundred across the board, right? That's why, like, when. When I don't laugh at her jokes, I. I don't think that's ever really a thing. I thought it was funny. She goes, whatever.

[Audriana]

Our problem is, I sometimes will say something, but not loud enough. And I know it would kill in the family. And sometimes Olivia hears it, or she thinks the same thing, but 10 seconds later, but she says it louder, gets.

[Drew]

The whole family laughing.

[Dacen]

Well, damn it, that's such youngest siblings.

[Audriana]

I just fucking said that.

[Drew]

Youngest sibling Chad, we do that to.

[Dacen]

Our brother all the time. I go, no, you didn't say that. I said that.

[Drew]

No, I made that up.

[Olivia]

Gaslighting.

[Dacen]

Yeah, you get some.

[Drew]

Or sometimes my man does that. Like, he'll make a joke and then I make the joke. Cause I heard it, but I also thought it. And then he goes, that was my.

[Olivia]

Especially around your family.

[Drew]

He's probably like, God damn it. No, we were. For my man's birthday this year, we did the San Diego Safari Park.

[Ilona]

Oh, my God.

[Drew]

Fucking awesome. Had a blast. Can't recommend enough. I love the story, but we did, like, a private thing, and we were on this tour, and our friend Alex was with us, and she was sitting next to me in days, and she, like, they were saying something, and she made a joke. And she's someone who loves to just watch. I love when you have friends who are like, I love watching people be funny. And, like, I'll chime in here and there, but I love to watch. So she loves to watch us be funny. And, like, she made a joke that was Honestly brought the house down. And I said it out loud. I said it out loud because she just said it and I laughed and I said it out loud. Killed whole cart in stitches. And, like, we're in a golf cart. And everyone in the vlog, too. That I was, holy shit. That was so funny. And then I saw her face, and I go, that was an Alex joke I did not make. That I gave her. She was like, I was gonna say that, like, the one time that made everybody laugh. So I.

[Dacen]

In the vlog, you can hear her.

[Drew]

Going, I said that.

[Audriana]

Joke.

[Drew]

My bad. But I get you. Like, the bar's gotta still be high, but it's never gonna match your friends. Like, even, like, the way, like, when we hang out with Brittany. Holy fuck, dude. Like, some of the shit we talked about, literally. Jason one time laughed so hard when we were all together that she threw up.

[Dacen]

We all were like, all right, good night, guys. I had to go throw up. My stomach hurts so bad.

[Drew]

No. Brace peed her pants in my house multiple times from laughing. She threw up.

[Dacen]

That was disgusting. But it was also really fun.

[Drew]

Yeah, but she said something that we laugh for. So, like. So no man is ever gonna be on that level ever, ever, ever, ever.

[Ilona]

That was a good revelation.

[Olivia]

I was like, any dating advice for us, either of you, for everybody listening?

[Drew]

Keep trying. Keep at it. Trying, girl. Yeah. I would say, like, will you all like men? Yes. Everyone here likes men except you. Yeah. Lesbian sister.

[Olivia]

Take a drink, lesbian sister.

[Drew]

There you go. I mean, I don't know. I guess, like, the one I tell everyone is just to keep the bar high. Like, keep it high. Like, it's good that you're checking in and being like, he's not funny. Like, that is good. It's keep it high and be fucking picky. That's what I always Say, yeah, that's.

[Dacen]

What I've been doing.

[Drew]

A whisper of something. Eh? Next. I don't like that. And it has to be something like that. You're like, I don't like that. That makes me uncomfortable. And I think sometimes people are like, well, you have to give people chances. I think that's all women do. Women are giving too many chances constantly. I think we need to stop giving. I think we need to give less of those. Right. And so it's like, if it doesn't work and you're not feeling it, quit it, move on. Like, that's how I feel. Like, really, you gotta run the numbers. It is a numbers game. Unfortunately, it is a numbers game. But, yeah, I would just keep standards high, be picky.

[Olivia]

I love that. And I'm actually gonna transition us over into our book nook. Because my next question kinda has to do with that. Cause I read Loud. Oh, T. They used it literally. It was one of the first books that I, like, put on my store, being like, five stars.

[Drew]

I'm honored, you know? Thank you.

[Olivia]

What? The one part in there that you said, I say, don't want to give any too much away because you people should go read it. Is what you said about, like, being okay with not having someone in your life. You, like, made this, like, decision that was like, I would be happy if I was. If I died alone.

[Drew]

Right.

[Olivia]

You came to peace with that in your own life.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Then your man came into your life. That stuck with me. It's like, sometimes I'll be at my loneliest and be like, I could die alone.

[Audriana]

It's okay.

[Olivia]

Keep me going or whatever.

[Drew]

Well, I think that too. That revelation came to me too, after a really terrible. I can't even call it relationship situationship. So it was a really terrible one. But it was one of those things I've always. You guys know me. I've always been like this, like, very confident, whatever. But in dating, like, you know, there are times where you're like, no matter how confident you are, date as a woman. Dating men, it's hard to hold to your values for real. Hold to them, commit. If I say this, you do that one more time, I'm leaving. You do that one more time, I don't wanna talk to you anymore. I wanna break up. Actually moving in that for real, because you're not factoring all the time you've spent already, all the feelings you already have. It's one of those where I had such a terrible outcome to that that I was, like, part of this most of this is on him, but part of the this is on me. Because I'm smart and capable and I have eyes and ears. I could see things. And I was choosing to not remember them. I was choosing not to hold them to him. Because I was thinking, well, still, you make exceptions, right? And that, to me is like. I call it, like, keeping the door cracked. So it's like, I am independent. I do love myself. Fuck men. Fuck the patriarchy. I could say that all day, but in private, if I'm not holding to that, like, the real test is, like, would you really be okay, like, if you never got married, if you never had kids, if that's what you want, right? As a woman dating man, would you actually be okay with that? Or is part of you still like, well, I don't wanna end up alone. Cause I was still like that. Like, I was like, no, that's true. I don't care. I don't care. But I think that was the first time in my life I actually meant it. And, like, for real walked in the shit. Like, I was like, no, you know what, man? Fuck that shit. Cause, like, all my life is surrounded by love. Like, it's filled with love.

[Olivia]

Like.

[Drew]

Like, we were talking about a man never being as funny as your friends, right? Like, and, like, never having that bond or closeness to you that your friends have. It's just different. Like, and it's true. Like, women are the only species that can grow community in that way and, like, connect to each other in that way. Like, to be loved by a woman is to be truly fucking loved. So, like, love from a man is nice. Love from a woman is necessary. Like, it's required. You need that shit. So once I really believed that and I was like, no, you know what? My life would be fucking awesome whether or not I got married or didn't dated, never had sex again. Like, if I never did any of those things ever again, I would still have the most awesome life in the world because I. I'm loved by so many women. So I think that was the first time in my life I actually walked in it for real and believed it. And I think the universe heard me. Like, I think the universe believed me. And, like, all signs just led me to my man now. So, like, you know, I ended up having a man that met all my standards and more. So I think, yeah, that's why. That's why I felt it was important to include that in the book. Because it's not like a. It's not like a special superpower. It's just something I gave myself. I was like, I'm ready. I'm ready. Now I'll walk in it for a little while. Especially with sisters. You have a sister. You don't need anybody, man. When you have a sister, I'm like, well, my sister's not gonna be there.

[Olivia]

My sister wouldn't do that.

[Dacen]

Yeah.

[Drew]

So how fun could it be if my sister's not there? I get it.

[Olivia]

Hell, yeah. Okay. Well, did we also talk about books we're reading here? So are you reading anything fun?

[Drew]

We read a couple lesbian books lately.

[Olivia]

We messaged about Atmosphere at one point. Did you read it?

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

The ending. I also like, I read the in my Kindle. Because then you did the audiobook.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

I can't even imagine how much more traumatizing the audiobook was, especially the last chapter. But I read it on a plane and I could not stop crying.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

And then I was trying to go to sleep. I go, I have to read another book. This is just too much. But I liked him more than Evelyn Hugo. I really loved Evelyn Hugo, but I liked Atmosphere more.

[Olivia]

I did too. Yeah.

[Dacen]

And then right now, I'm reading Bloom Town, which is another lesbian book I only read Les. Yeah, I finished CLE Cute. That one was really.

[Olivia]

I was going to bring that one up.

[Audriana]

The soccer book.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Dacen]

The smut gets to it way faster. That's what I'm talking about.

[Ilona]

Did I just see that on your story?

[Olivia]

No.

[Dacen]

But I did post about it like a couple months ago.

[Olivia]

You know, I'm trying to produce that.

[Drew]

I was going to say, get on CLE Cube.

[Dacen]

I think Sue Bird and Megan Rapinoe are producing it together.

[Ilona]

I'm just gonna call him up.

[Drew]

Call Taylor up.

[Olivia]

You just called Megan.

[Ilona]

Hey, sue girl, who are you finding?

[Dacen]

I finished that one really fast. And then I read Shifting Gears and then I've been posting about it. A lot of people are saying, oh, it's an AO3. I go, I don't know any of the words.

[Drew]

You're shiction.

[Dacen]

I don't know any fan fiction queen.

[Audriana]

AO3 is fanfiction.

[Drew]

That's true.

[Olivia]

Oh, okay.

[Drew]

But there is a lot of fan.

[Dacen]

But I think that one is based off it. Like the girl that she wrote it on AO3 and then made it into a book. But I really like that one.

[Audriana]

Okay.

[Dacen]

And that was crazy. I want that.

[Drew]

That was Shifting Gears. Yeah.

[Dacen]

That one is good right now.

[Drew]

The train one.

[Dacen]

Oh, One Last Stop. Everyone says that's like one of the best ones.

[Audriana]

I read that one.

[Dacen]

I didn't like it?

[Drew]

No, no, it's not one of the best.

[Olivia]

You read that one, too?

[Drew]

Yeah, yeah. I said all lesbian books are them riding trains in Brooklyn. Like, what's going on?

[Dacen]

That's just one last stop.

[Drew]

But also is bad.

[Dacen]

And also I read it, but I didn't like that one. And then I read Sunburn. I feel like that's one that a.

[Drew]

Lot of people like.

[Dacen]

It's about these Irish lesbians in the, like. Like, 80s or 90s or something. And I just felt like I want to read, like, she's an ice skater, and the girl who drives the Zamboni gives her a hard time, and then they. In the locker room, like, that's a.

[Drew]

Book I don't want to read about.

[Dacen]

We're in Catholic school, and I have all this religious trauma.

[Drew]

My mom caught us.

[Dacen]

I don't want to read it.

[Drew]

Yeah, it's a real call me by your name version of it.

[Dacen]

It was good, but I was like, no, give me that.

[Drew]

No, I need. I need the good shit.

[Audriana]

Yeah, the rugby one I just sent alone. It was called Try Hard Lesbian.

[Ilona]

Yeah, I'm gonna read it, download it.

[Olivia]

On my Kindle immediately.

[Dacen]

I didn't realize I was lesbian until I played rugby.

[Drew]

So maybe that's like, lesbians.

[Audriana]

Yeah.

[Ilona]

What is this?

[Olivia]

Like, because you played rugby in school?

[Audriana]

In college.

[Olivia]

In college, right?

[Drew]

At U of o, I played 15.

[Dacen]

Sevens is too much running. And then I was like a. I think I was like, a tight prop. And then I broke one of my fingers, so then I'd be loose. I forget the difference between them.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Ilona]

I hear you.

[Olivia]

I hear you. Are you reading anything fun recently?

[Drew]

I downloaded the sequel to Quicksilver.

[Olivia]

Okay, that's out.

[Drew]

Brimstone. Hell, yeah, girl. Hell yeah, it is. And I accidentally ordered it in Italian, too. I don't know how I did that, but it's called Princetone Italiano. And I was like, okay, well, can't read that one. But I haven't started it yet. But I did meet Kelly Hart, the author of Quicksilver. I did a talk thing with her. She's real nice. But, yeah, I read Quicksilver. I really liked that one recently. Oh, the Viking books. Those are my favorite ones. I love Romantasy. That's, like, my thing. Great job. So I like a fate inked in blood. It's like, like, two. Did you like them? Did you read both of them?

[Audriana]

I did. I read it a while ago. I remember. It was a fun read, Right? Since I don't remember much of it, I Think that kind of girl.

[Drew]

You gotta get into it if you haven't read it.

[Ilona]

Inked in blood.

[Drew]

Yeah. A fate inked in blood. It's like. It's got good smut in it too. But, like, there's a plot twist that blew my hair back, bitch. In the second one, I said, no fucking way, dude. I literally read it. And I paced around my room. I was like, I Kindle in hand. I was like, oh, my God. I had to talk to someone about this. Like, nobody I knew had read it. Yeah. Phantasma is a good one. That's like, Victorian. Like witch ghosts. Yeah. One's about one sister, the other one's about another. The first one, she's a ghost. The second one, she's a demon, period.

[Ilona]

Actually read it.

[Drew]

You read those ones?

[Ilona]

No, I buy, like, demon.

[Drew]

Okay. Have you heard of this one called Sister Part? The demon part? Yeah. Have you heard about this Ice Barbarians one? Have you read that one?

[Ilona]

I've read all of them.

[Drew]

All of them? Are they good?

[Ilona]

I've read a bunch of them. There's a lot of them.

[Drew]

There's like nine of them. Did you read them all?

[Ilona]

I've read probably eight of them.

[Olivia]

No, I haven't read all of them.

[Ilona]

Actually, on Brittany Broski's podcast, Royal Court, she asked about it. I was like, have you ever read Ice Plant at Barbarians? And she's never read it, but she knows about it. But yes, I've read it all.

[Drew]

I saw it on TikTok the other day.

[Ilona]

I said.

[Drew]

Said I might have to get into that. Like, I was reading about it. But she.

[Ilona]

If you like Avatar, like the movies.

[Drew]

I do love the Avatar movies. It's giving that a note because all the men are blue.

[Olivia]

It's giving them. But in a planet.

[Drew]

Right.

[Ilona]

And they have.

[Olivia]

And they love their women down and.

[Ilona]

They love their women very much.

[Drew]

That's always the vibe in those books. Like, that's why they're the best.

[Ilona]

Because that's the way that.

[Dacen]

That's a fantasy.

[Drew]

That's what I say. I literally made a beautiful or a.

[Olivia]

Nice being treated right by a man.

[Drew]

No, I literally made a talk about it. I was like, believe it or not, it's not the bat wings. It's like him being nice to her. Like, that's what's doing. The girls are like, no way. And it's him, like, respecting her. Yeah, right. And going down on her. Like, those are things that they never get.

[Audriana]

So they're like, only get it from blue aliens.

[Ilona]

I've been reading some books recently though, where I've almost had to stop because it's like, that's just not realistic what he's doing. He's written by a woman. The thoughts he's having. The absolute, absolute instant just obsession, adoration. I'm like, I don't, I can't believe it. Oh, now the third brother feels that way.

[Audriana]

I just.

[Drew]

What are the odds?

[Ilona]

What are the odds?

[Drew]

Yeah, the, the second Phantasma book is like phantasma. And then Enchantra, the second one, he's freaked out to a level that I was like, like I was reading. I said, hold on, pause, hold on, pause, pause, pause, pause, pause. Like, what am I reading, bro? Like in that one, he has like a dick piercing, which I was not expecting in a book about Victoria. Victorian times.

[Ilona]

Oh, Victorian times.

[Dacen]

And he's a demon.

[Drew]

And he's a demon. Yeah, he's literally a demon of hell. So maybe.

[Ilona]

Sorry, demons do have piercings.

[Drew]

Do have piercings.

[Olivia]

We were reading a blurb from this like motorcycle romance and it was like, sex that feels ritualistic. I was like, I'm adding that to my dating profile right now.

[Drew]

Feels ritualistic.

[Olivia]

Sex that feels ritualistic. And knife flail. Ooh.

[Drew]

And also every time I read those books, like, I don't care how thin, skinny, white waif she is. I'm picturing me. I'm like. And that's me. So that's easy. That's fine.

[Ilona]

I don't remember. Were we just talking about this podcast, the books where it's like the character is bigger and they have to let you know every five seconds and you know and when. Cause I'm so much bigger and trying.

[Dacen]

To fit into my chair.

[Drew]

They're like his hand was the size of my torso.

[Olivia]

My One Direction.

[Ilona]

Yeah, okay.

[Olivia]

Literally, that's annoying. Well, you have teased or threatened to write a romanticity. Are you doing that currently?

[Drew]

Yes, I am. It's very exciting. Can you share about it?

[Audriana]

Yeah, tell us if anything.

[Drew]

I can say I'm co writing it. So it's not just me by myself, which is really. It's honestly been a really, really fun experience. And the reason why that happened to and came about was because I although have written a best selling book, I haven't written a fantasy book, like a fiction one. And I know the fiction space is like so much more competitive with books and it's a lot more saturated. Especially now, like all the different books we're all talking about. Everyone is so into reading that kind of genre right now, so I didn't want to Go in blind or arrogant enough that I was like, I know how to write one of these. That's easy. So I am writing it alongside someone, which has been fucking awesome. It's been really cool, a really cool experience. And I can say it's inspired by Polynesian, like mythological lore, like that kind of thing.

[Dacen]

Everyone's brown.

[Drew]

Everyone looks like me. Get into it. Everyone's big and huge. And all the men have long hair, period. Like, that's kind of my vibe.

[Dacen]

You're like. And her best friend white.

[Drew]

Yeah, I know. I did tell Cynthia Rebo this, but I had to cut it out because we filmed it so early in the year that my team was like, no, cut that part out. But like, I told her, I was like, yeah. And her best friend white, guess what? I'm gonna kill her. She's just gonna stop laughing. And I was like, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. There's gonna be no white people in my book. No white people. I'm kidding. But I'm like making all of the characters look like people I grew up around. And like, everyone's of age and big and strong and powerful. Yeah.

[Dacen]

When they're teenagers. I don't want to read them.

[Drew]

Well, no, they're like freshly 18. They're like, oh, I just turned.

[Dacen]

It's my 22nd birthday girl.

[Audriana]

I don't listen to ages in books. I love the Throne of glass series. She's 18.

[Drew]

She's a girl. Okay.

[Audriana]

27 year old.

[Drew]

Okay. I want to get into Throne of Glass so bad because I know the storyline is awesome.

[Olivia]

Yeah, yeah.

[Drew]

But I. Brittany likes that one. Yes. She loved that one. She keeps telling me to read it. The edging that it does to me. I'm a grown up kiss. I'm a grown up kiss right now. I swear to God. And they're literally, ya. So it was like every time they were getting. They were right about. They pan to the fireplace, bitch. I swear. Then when they finally do it, like in the first, second, or third book, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Get there, Flip the page. Next morning, put that book down. Never touch it again. I was like, not getting played by a book. I'm not. You're not gonna play in my face. Sorry. I'm a grown up. It's a big slow burn, ya know? Like, you guys do it right now. I swear to God, that's how I feel. I swear to God, you guys, if you guys put something somewhere, I'm gonna be pissed. I'm gonna be mad. But Jason gets that. She Reads the same kinds of books. She's like, let's move it along. Yeah, it needs to be way faster.

[Dacen]

I tried to do Acotar. I finished the first one and then I told you. When does it get gay?

[Drew]

Like, are there less?

[Dacen]

There's one. I go, I don't want to read them.

[Drew]

And I don't know if she ever has one.

[Olivia]

Are they even confirmed gay?

[Drew]

Yeah, one of them is. But, like, I don't. I don't know if she has anything.

[Dacen]

If there's too much straight sex, I don't want to read it.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Drew]

And unfortunately, that is mine. So, like, I'm. Yeah, I'm trying to watch.

[Olivia]

I'm reading that. You let me know.

[Ilona]

I love that. I see myself in there. How, like, will you say heights and stuff like that?

[Drew]

You think? Yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm being very literal in the descriptions of her and, like, nobody's getting this wrong. No, no, for real. Let's make it real fucking clear real quick. But I even, like, I wrote a line that was like, the women are big, the men are bigger. Like, that's how. Yeah, yeah, get into that. Yeah, get into that. Yeah. Very exciting, though. But I do have some samples. I'll send them to you guys. Send them, and I'll send them to y'.

[Audriana]

All.

[Drew]

Now you guys can have those.

[Olivia]

Sure. Isn't he gonna do any writing?

[Dacen]

No, no.

[Drew]

Okay. Not books.

[Audriana]

It's not your path, and that's fine.

[Ilona]

No, no.

[Olivia]

She's vlogging for Drew.

[Dacen]

Yeah, I've been vlogging for two 80 girls.

[Drew]

No. She likes to advise on how the lesbian book should be written.

[Ilona]

Good.

[Drew]

Can I have some notes? Yeah.

[Olivia]

We need critics.

[Audriana]

That's me. I opened a Google Doc the other day, and I was like, maybe I should write something. Wrote down two sentences, and I was like, nothing else is coming to me.

[Drew]

And I am done.

[Audriana]

All my creativity is gone.

[Drew]

I know. I will say writing smut scenes is like. I haven't even. I've like, barely scratched the surface of it.

[Dacen]

Oh, it feels humiliating.

[Drew]

It is low key humiliating. Like, low key. It is like. I know what it. It's supposed to sound like, but I was very like, maybe the co writer takes it. Call in my co writer. Get in there, girl. And I'll go.

[Audriana]

Damn.

[Ilona]

We were just talking to an author who in her books, it's fade to black. Because those are one of the books.

[Olivia]

Where I started reading it.

[Ilona]

I was like, what the.

[Drew]

Did they rip out the pages?

[Ilona]

And I finished reading it. It was like, Just do it. And it was a great book. But she said. So I asked her, like, why don't you write those? And it's hard to write.

[Drew]

It is. It is. It's uncomfortable and weird, and it can get weird fast. But even I read the Hunger Games. I love that trilogy. I think the Hunger Games love triangle is one of the best ones ever written because it carries to the very end.

[Dacen]

Still don't know who she's picking.

[Drew]

Yeah. And then when she does pick, it makes sense based off the storyline. And then also, I liked in that how each man. It wasn't really necessarily about which one was right. It was who she was when she was with them. Like, who did she want to be? Like, did she want to be someone who's vengeful? Or does she want to be someone who finds peace eventually? Like, that's. I think, the internal struggle she had. Like, I love a love triangle like that. That's why the Twilight one is a great one, too. Like, the way they wrote that. Were you guys Vampire Diaries girls?

[Ilona]

I read it. I didn't watch it.

[Drew]

Oh, you read it, but didn't. What you gotta watch. While you're the luckiest girl in the world, you gotta watch it. That show. Oh, my God. The way I do PR for that show.

[Olivia]

I tried watching it, like, two or three years ago, and it felt so 2000. Like, it's awful. In the beginning, felt it where I was like, God, I'm back there wearing my Hollister.

[Drew]

Please don't. I can't do this. It's a CW show for sure. But I swear to God, if you get past the first, like, three, four episodes in season one. Because everybody's ugly. Yeah, everybody's ugly. And everybody shakes it off and gets hot after that, Right? That show, dude.

[Dacen]

Oh, my God, the twists are crazy.

[Drew]

It's so good until, like, season five. And then, like, after that, it's fucking downhill from there. They just.

[Ilona]

How do you feel about the original?

[Audriana]

Because that's my show.

[Drew]

Okay. I loved the Originals initially because I loved Vampire Diaries. But I will say this, too. This is like, I'm not a completionist in any way, shape or form. Like, the second that Stefan and Elena were, like, friends forever. Close my laptop. Never watched it again. I was like, hey, fuck this show. I'm never watching this show.

[Ilona]

I do the same.

[Drew]

You better pick the brother I want. I swear to God.

[Olivia]

Don't be dumb.

[Drew]

But, yeah, the originals I did love at first. But then after a while, it started getting so crazy that I was like, what's?

[Ilona]

Going on.

[Drew]

Damn. I gotta, like. I gotta catch up. But I do want to get into the originals.

[Audriana]

The originals I really love because I love anything set in, like, New Orleans. Did you ever watch Legacies?

[Drew]

No. I. I've heard it, though. Don't, Don't.

[Audriana]

Because they expand outside of, like, vampires and witches and stuff.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Audriana]

And now it's everything that has been ever written, like, ever, ever. Like, there's gargoyles and coming out of this pit.

[Olivia]

Leprechaun.

[Drew]

There's just too much.

[Dacen]

Yeah, leprechauns. That's how Teen Wolf turns.

[Ilona]

Yeah.

[Dacen]

Honestly, it was kind of sick, but it was, like, too much going on.

[Audriana]

I wish I could watch Teen Wolf again. I tried. I could not get past.

[Drew]

That's what I told you, too. I said the same thing. I was like, I tried. Can't do it. Vampire Diaries, though. Can do it. And I. I think even Vampire Diaries, like, at a certain point, he's like, vampire and werewolf. I'm like, sure. Fuck it. Like, that doesn't make sense, but sure.

[Olivia]

Like, I just tried bread.

[Drew]

You know what? Yeah. He's a. What?

[Audriana]

First tribe.

[Drew]

That's what they call him.

[Audriana]

Witch, wolf, Vampire. Because his mother was a witch.

[Dacen]

He's a triple threat.

[Audriana]

And then his father was a werewolf.

[Drew]

This is a huge spoiler.

[Audriana]

His father was a werewolf. Bastard. Not his actual, like, father.

[Drew]

I didn't know that.

[Audriana]

That's t. And then the witch mother turned him into a vampire later, but he had to unlock it all.

[Drew]

That. I did not read that. That's Klaus. Klaus.

[Dacen]

Oh, he's so sexy to me. Or he's just straight my memory. I go, oh, I love him, but if you talk to me, I may be mad, but he's the sexy.

[Drew]

No, let's get into that show. If you guys need a, like, Christmas break show Vampire the tribes Vampire Diaries. All right. Love it.

[Olivia]

Write that down.

[Drew]

All right.

[Olivia]

Hell of a book, Nook. We are gonna spin into a quick.

[Ilona]

Sisters settle it to close out. We're gonna play one last game. It's gonna be baby sisters and then the eldest daughters. Well, eldest sisters.

[Olivia]

Yes. Together.

[Ilona]

And so it'll be judged by me because I have that power.

[Drew]

Perfect.

[Ilona]

It says buzzin by making a buzzer sound.

[Olivia]

Okay, Right.

[Ilona]

One, two, three.

[Audriana]

Okay.

[Drew]

Okay.

[Ilona]

So I'm asking you questions and then you're gonna try to answer them. And I will judge if you said it right.

[Olivia]

Gotcha. Here we go.

[Ilona]

What's the title of the Higham sisters latest album?

[Audriana]

It's like Closing Timers. It's like canceled. It's end of day something, I think. Okay, three different.

[Ilona]

Let's see.

[Drew]

Let it see.

[Audriana]

Close.

[Drew]

Oh, in a way, I quit. I know how it works. You said closing time.

[Olivia]

I'm giving you the end of day.

[Ilona]

I'm giving you a point. You're closer than the older people.

[Drew]

I was like, superior.

[Audriana]

Because I saw it on their tour. It's like, I quit tour. And I was like, it's something has to do with ending.

[Ilona]

In the movie Lilo and Stitch, what is the name of Lilo's sister? Yeah.

[Drew]

Nani.

[Olivia]

Oh, I was gonna say baddie number one.

[Drew]

I'm like, okay.

[Audriana]

What did you guys feel about the live action one?

[Drew]

I actually didn't watch it. I thought it was so cute.

[Dacen]

Really? People were taking. Being way too serious about it.

[Olivia]

Oh, were they?

[Drew]

I had a good time. Yeah. I mean, I didn't watch it. I heard she goes to the mainland, though, at the end, which I'm not a big fan of.

[Dacen]

Well, yeah, they were like, there's, like, Navy propaganda in here. And I was like, what are we watching?

[Ilona]

Right?

[Drew]

And I'll tell you one thing about a local. They don't want to go to the mainland. Yeah. I'll tell you that.

[Dacen]

I thought that, too.

[Ilona]

Okay, in the Hunger Games, what is the name of Katniss Everdeen? Sister Katie.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Ilona]

I'll give it to Adriana Primrose Everdine.

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Drew]

Period.

[Ilona]

Tucking your tail, you little duck.

[Drew]

Hunger Games.

[Olivia]

But better clips. Hunger Games.

[Drew]

For better clips. Mom. Mom. Reaping. Oh, Grace. I love Hunger Games.

[Dacen]

She makes me laugh so much.

[Ilona]

Reaping.

[Drew]

Reaping, Reaping.

[Olivia]

Going now.

[Drew]

Okay. So funny.

[Ilona]

The 90s sitcom Sister C. Sister starred which two famous twins?

[Olivia]

I'll give it to Olivia, Tia and Tamara.

[Ilona]

Okay, let's see.

[Drew]

I'm like the Mowry Sisters, but yeah. Yeah.

[Ilona]

I asked someone.

[Drew]

I thought we were going by their stage name.

[Olivia]

Sorry.

[Drew]

Just kidding. Just kidding.

[Olivia]

Did you know that?

[Ilona]

Only from the Doja Cat song Be Real.

[Audriana]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

I was raised in that Disney era a little bit.

[Ilona]

What is the name of the muscular middle sister in the movie Encanto?

[Audriana]

Luisa.

[Drew]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Drew]

Period.

[Olivia]

Oh, God, she did.

[Audriana]

For Dancing with the Stars.

[Drew]

I do say.

[Dacen]

My future wife.

[Drew]

I do remember that.

[Olivia]

We got to pick it up, my love.

[Drew]

We've got to come from the back here.

[Olivia]

Come on.

[Dacen]

No, my answer is going to be, like, my type.

[Drew]

That's what I was going to name her. To my sister. My man.

[Ilona]

My d. Name. The song the Sanderson Sisters sing in Hocus Pocus.

[Dacen]

I put a spell on you?

[Drew]

Is that what it is?

[Dacen]

Oh, sorry I put a spell on you.

[Olivia]

Let's see.

[Audriana]

I have no idea.

[Ilona]

I don't think I've watched Hocus Pocus before. Yeah, she only speaks when she has something good to say.

[Drew]

Yeah. Okay. And she knows it when it counts.

[Olivia]

That's my teammate.

[Ilona]

I don't think it's a tiebreaker. I feel like the young people.

[Drew]

Yeah. I think we actually blew out the water.

[Olivia]

Yeah, we kind of did, but I guess.

[Drew]

But you got that one.

[Olivia]

Let's.

[Drew]

Good job, Dace.

[Olivia]

Proud of you.

[Audriana]

Wow.

[Drew]

And Liv got the other one, too.

[Olivia]

All right.

[Drew]

Look at that. Great. Top team. Give it up for them.

[Olivia]

Teamwork. Thank you so much for coming over to our house. Drew And Dacen's podcast, Two Idiot Girls is a must listen. And they're doing two live shows in California in January. Brea on January 29th and Pasadena on January 30th.

[Ilona]

Great. Sorry.

[Drew]

Yay.

[Audriana]

Thanks so much for coming over to the house of Mar? A Wave Original.

[Ilona]

Be sure to watch subscribe on YouTube and listen wherever you ate your podcast.

[Olivia]

Plus follow the show on social media HouseOfMar for clips and behind the scenes content. We'll see you next time.

[Drew]

Bye, guys.

[Ilona]

Bye.

[Olivia]

Love you guys.