Adriana (1:21)

Welcome to the family.

Lilah (1:22)

Literary superstar Emily Henry.

Olivia (1:24)

Thank you.

Lilah (1:25)

I can't believe I had such bad times reading that with an author here. That was bad.

Emily Henry (1:29)

It's a lot of pressure reading aloud. It's so stressful. It's a nightmare.

Adriana (1:32)

It's the worst.

Emily Henry (1:33)

And then, especially when you're reading from like a screen or a teleprompter, it's. I don't know. I get a full body sweat.

Olivia (1:37)

Chills.

Emily Henry (1:37)

You did great.

Adriana (1:38)

I just saw a tweet recently that was like, any man you're thinking about bringing into your life, make him read out loud first to you and see how that goes. And I was like, I'm gonna implement that on my next date.

Emily Henry (1:46)

You're like, does he do the voices of the characters?

Adriana (1:48)

Does he do the voices? Can he Reed?

Emily Henry (1:50)

Can he Reed? First of all.

Adriana (1:51)

Prove it.

Emily Henry (1:52)

Prove it. First and foremost, I'm not gonna go on assumptions here. You can't live like that.

Adriana (1:56)

No, you can't. I'd rather know early. Rip off that band aid. At the time of. As we're recording this right now, we had the premiere where Adriana and I attended your premiere last night for people we met on vacation. How was that for you?

Emily Henry (2:09)

That was so wild and crazy. I feel like it didn't really hit me at all until today. So it's like all day. Little moments are coming back to me. I got to introduce my parents to Molly Shannon, highlight of the night, nicest woman in the world. And I mean, yeah, it was so wild. And meeting you guys, I was like, I saw you and I was like, I. You know, that thing. I feel like every time I'm in la, I spend the whole time being like, do I know that person? Or is that person famous?

Adriana (2:32)

Is that my friend or is that person?

Olivia (2:33)

And you're like.

Emily Henry (2:34)

Sometimes you're waving at them and you're like, oh, sh. No, that's. No, they're like, yeah, like, that's Robert Pattinson.

Adriana (2:40)

I do that all the time.

Emily Henry (2:43)

Why is he here?

Adriana (2:44)

Yeah, that's my high school friend.

Emily Henry (2:45)

Yeah. Yeah. My close, personal.

Adriana (2:49)

We said hi to you because it was your night. Like, we saw you. I was like, you were in the green, right?

Olivia (2:53)

No, sorry.

Adriana (2:54)

You were in the orange. Orange yesterday of the original cover.

Emily Henry (2:57)

Right?

Adriana (2:58)

Is that where you picked it?

Emily Henry (2:59)

Thank you. Thank you. I love that. There were two reasons I picked that dress. One was the color. The other was the cutout on the side. So in the movie, Emily Bader, as Poppy, has this swimsuit that has that, like, a very similar flower shaped cutout on the side. So I saw that dress and I was like, this has to be the one. And frankly, when I tried it on for, like, the fitting, it did not look good on me. And there were other dresses that did look good on me, and they were like, well, you know, tailoring will help. And I was like, I still have to go with this. The tailoring did wonders. Carlos was a mastermind.

Adriana (3:28)

Your legs looked a mile long. Sorry to have been, like, looking at your legs, but, like, you look amazing.

Emily Henry (3:32)

I've been offended. You don't wear a dress that short.

Adriana (3:34)

No, exactly.

Emily Henry (3:35)

Be like, look at my legs. They told me outfit. Yeah. They were my favorite accessory.

Lilah (3:40)

Can someone pull this up for me?

Adriana (3:41)

Now I want to see Emily's.

Emily Henry (3:42)

Like, we got to see the legs.

Lilah (3:45)

Emily's legs in the video footage.

Emily Henry (3:46)

Are you just gonna put a picture of my legs? Like, cut off the feet, blur off my memories. Cut off the feet, cut off nose, Three feet.

Adriana (3:54)

Yeah, she says so. Yeah. Well, also, one of our questions is everyone calls you M hen. Do you like that nickname?

Emily Henry (3:59)

You know what? I actually do because my, my sister in law has always called me Mhen. Oh, get out. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. So when the, when the readers started doing it, I was like, this is like, it makes me feel like they actually know me. And also like I am a millennial named Emily. So I spent my entire life being Emily Henry. You know what I mean? To differentiate, there were seven of them in every classroom. You could not like sneeze without, like getting six other Emily sick with whatever. So I was always Emily Henry. I was never, never really Emily H. There were a few dark years in middle school where I was just Henry. No, it is cool now. I'm like, that's cute and cool. But at the time I was like, I'm a woman. Yeah. I'm 12 years old. I am, I'm a girl. And my, my best friend at the time was a soccer player. And so her last name was Burger. So she was like, I already go by Burger because I'm like a soccer player. And also, I'm sure there were 12 Emily's on the team.

Olivia (4:49)

Clearly.

Emily Henry (4:49)

I don't know how many people are on a soccer team. I'm sorry, I know you all know about sports, but. So she was like, she started calling me Henry. And I, I was okay with it when she did it, but when boys did it, I was like, okay, so.

Adriana (5:00)

You'Re like in the corner. I will never have a boyfriend.

Emily Henry (5:02)

Yeah, too far. Yeah.

Adriana (5:03)

I will never have a boyfriend in the corner.

Emily Henry (5:05)

Yes. There she is though.

Lilah (5:06)

Gorgeous.

Emily Henry (5:07)

Their legs. Can we zoom in a little? Get it in the legs. Getty images out of there. Oh, I love the shoes.

Adriana (5:13)

Ooh, shoes are gold.

Emily Henry (5:14)

What do we have? They're silver. Yes.

Olivia (5:16)

Reflecting.

Lilah (5:18)

So I didn't get to be there. How was it? They loved movie. Good.

Emily Henry (5:21)

I mean, you said you. Oh, you said you did, but you never know if you're lying. You're going to catch. You were going to tell me on camera that you're like, it's bad.

Adriana (5:28)

We're back.

Emily Henry (5:29)

Now that we have you here. Yeah, now we have you here. We have some notes. Is it too late?

Adriana (5:32)

Can we unlock this edit? Let's get back in there.

Emily Henry (5:35)

Let's get in there. Let's get in there. I'm ready. I'm ready to do some work. No, it was so. It was really magical. Like, I felt like. It was like I felt like I was at my wedding. Like, I did not sit down, I did not eat, I did not drink. At the end of the night, I saw a tray of sliders going Past. And I was like, I should eat this. So I was just eating a slider on my way out the door. My feet, which we'll get to about it, were not in good shape. So I, like, put on these thick. Books are Magic. Shout out to Books are Magic. The bookstore socks with, like, these little ballet flats that. It was a real look. And I was just shuffling down, wearing a cowboy hat because they were giving out. Did you get to the cowboy hat and wig station?

Lilah (6:11)

Oh, we passed by.

Emily Henry (6:13)

You're like, what's. What's that?

Adriana (6:14)

What's happening now? No, that was a brilliant touch.

Emily Henry (6:16)

Yeah. My mom just, like, left the room briefly and came back with a blue wig and. And a cowboy hat and, like, Mardi Gras beads. And I was like, where have you been? She's like, it's la.

Lilah (6:24)

When can I go?

Emily Henry (6:25)

Yeah, she's. She's like, she missed her flight. She lives here now. No, right. Yeah.

Adriana (6:29)

Did you stay out partying?

Lilah (6:31)

No.

Emily Henry (6:31)

I mean, here's what happened. I'll be real.

Adriana (6:33)

Tell us.

Emily Henry (6:34)

So there was, like, the after party where I met you guys. And then our wonderful director, Brett was like. He is like. He's such a social butterfly. He's like, I'm putting together the after after party. Like, okay, cool. At the time two days ago, that Emily was like, that sounds amazing. So he put together the after after party. And my whole publishing team was here. All these, like, New York book people. And so we were all like, okay, yeah, we'll go. We'll see. Hopefully it's quieter there. Like, this is, like, a bit. Hopefully the after after.

Adriana (7:05)

Which are famously quieter parties.

Emily Henry (7:07)

Wine and cheese, right? Yeah, yeah. And we got there and I was like, this is a bar with a bowling alley in it.

Adriana (7:11)

Oh, and did you go to Highland Park?

Emily Henry (7:14)

No, we went to the Roosevelt Hotel, has a bar called Spare Room. And Brett, the director's also a huge music guy, so he's like, I made the playlist. And so the playlist is cranking. It was technically a beautiful party, but the publishing people and I all looked like, went straight to this back room that was, like, as far away from everything else as possible. And even once we got to that back room, we're like, what are we doing? We have to go to bed. And so then I went to try to make my rounds to say goodbye. And I told. I told the dp, Rob, who was incredible, did great work. He's the photography director. I was like, yeah, we have to leave. We have to leave. This is not. I can't be Here. I can't be here anymore. And I was like, yeah. All the publishing. All my publishing friends are like, back there. And he's like, what's back there? And I was like, it's a room.

Adriana (8:00)

It's quieter.

Emily Henry (8:01)

It's a room. It's literally simply a dark room away. Far away from the bowling alley. Yeah, but it was really. It was cool. I just was like, I'm. Who am I kidding, right? I need my. My solid 12.

Lilah (8:14)

Have you ever Irish exited? Would you ever do that?

Emily Henry (8:16)

Oh, yes. Oh, yes. You have to Irish exit in the Midwest because if you don'. You do the Midwestern goodbye.

Olivia (8:23)

Okay.

Emily Henry (8:23)

Which is three and a half hours long, and you have to hug everyone 12 times. Because you hug them and then they start telling you a new story, and then there's another 45 minutes of conversation, then you have to hug them again. So the Midwestern goodbye is like, you have to Irish exit.

Olivia (8:35)

Really?

Emily Henry (8:36)

If there's more than four people, you're like, we'll text them later and be like, it was a great, great seeing you.

Adriana (8:40)

Right, right, right. Yeah.

Emily Henry (8:41)

Do you guys do the Irish accident?

Olivia (8:42)

I just tried it for the first time and I didn't really do it the right way. I was at a holiday party and just like, the drinks caught up to me really fast.

Emily Henry (8:49)

Yeah. So they were like, we think she's dead.

Olivia (8:52)

I was sitting there and I look and the world started tilting and I.

Adriana (8:54)

Was like, I gotta go.

Olivia (8:55)

So I just, like, stood up. We're in, like, the basement of a bar. I just look at them and look at them, and I was like, I'm Irish exiting.

Emily Henry (9:02)

I love that you still announced it. Just to be clear, this is what this is. I'm not going to the hospital. I'm not. Wait, can I tell it? Do you. Can I tell a, like, kind of sassy story about someone else? I won't name them. I mean, it's not. It's just one of my favorite stories from college. One of my closest friends in college. I will not name names, but so we were at this party and all of us were like. I don't know. We're, like, pretty, like, innocent in a way. So, like, we couldn't handle a ton. And she, like, smoked weed for one of the first times with some friends. And. And I, like, went to the bathroom briefly. It was, like, not a huge party. It was a small party. Like 15 people, maybe 10 to 15. And I come out and I'm like, where is. I'm not going to say. I'm changing her name to Lola. Let's go with Lola.

Lilah (9:47)

Perfect.

Emily Henry (9:47)

I come out of the bathroom, like, where's Lola? And everyone else is like, they're partying. They're like, oh, I don't know. I think maybe she's outside with the people who are smoking or whatever. And I go outside, and she's not there. And I'm walking this house. It's not that big of a house. And again, there's like 10 to 15 people. And I'm asking everyone, and they're all like, oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Like, I. You know. And then finally they're like, somebody's like, I think she left. And I'm like, she left? That's. That's weird. Like, that she would leave by herself, like, late at night. Whatever. Let's keep walking around the house. This is Michigan, dead of winter. So there's like three feet of snow outside, right? I'm walking around, and I'm like, oh, well, here's her scarf. So she forgot her scarf.

Olivia (10:18)

Oh, God.

Emily Henry (10:19)

Then I keep walking, like, this is her coat. I keep going. I'm like, these are her shoes, not the breadcrumbs. Oh, my God, she is gone. And then somebody says, oh, I think she was talking about going to try to find a frat party. And there's like, this one street where there. All the frats were. And I was like, oh, my gosh. Okay. Nobody thought to tell me, like, I have to go try and find my friend by just going door to door to these frats. And so I'm going door. I'm. I'm. I'm like, first I'll just stop by home just in case. Just in case, like, what? So I get home, she's asleep in her. We have bunk beds. Cause it's college. She's asleep in her bunk bed. I'm like, this is crazy. And so then the next day, I'm like, what happened to you, Lola? Like, I was really like, one, like, looking for you, and I found all of your stuff. And she was like, what happened is I took one puff of a joint. And then you went into the bathroom. And she said, I fell into the crack between the wall and the fridge, and I was there. She said, I felt like I was there for hours. I heard you come out looking for me. I couldn't move. I was so embarrassed that I fled. Oh, she fled on foot. She ran home through the snow, barefoot, which. It was close. She was like, you know, we were like, not far at all from home. But she fled. And I don't know what made me think of that. Something we were talking about before this. Love that. Yeah, I know. It's like one of the. I'm like, thank you for doing that.

Adriana (11:31)

Thank you for your service.

Emily Henry (11:32)

Thank you for your service. Like, I would have pledged to. Yeah. She did what she had to do.

Lilah (11:35)

If I was stuck there, I wouldn't have called for help. That would be so embarrassing.

Emily Henry (11:39)

She's like, I'm stuck behind, like in a crack between the fridge and the wall, just watching the world go by. I guess that was the best Irish exit of all time.

Adriana (11:46)

Absolutely.

Olivia (11:46)

And then you also collected all of her stuff.

Emily Henry (11:48)

And I collected all of her stuff. I took it home. Was like, where is my friend? She has been raptured.

Adriana (11:52)

Absolutely.

Emily Henry (11:53)

And no, not this time. Maybe next time.

Adriana (11:55)

That's a beautiful college mem memory. Yeah. How did she get out from behind the fridge? So.

Emily Henry (11:58)

Well, it wasn't. She wasn't really stuck. Like, she was in her mind. She was stuck. It was like, okay, yeah, yeah. When I say crack, I'm like, this is like a two foot gap. She was a tiny little person. She fell back and was just like.

Adriana (12:09)

I gotta go, I gotta go. We gotta get out of here.

Emily Henry (12:11)

When you gotta go, you gotta.

Adriana (12:12)

You gotta go. Yeah, I've always said that. Yeah, yeah.

Emily Henry (12:14)

That's what your tattoo says, right?

Adriana (12:16)

Yeah. When I gotta go, you gotta go.

Emily Henry (12:18)

Kind of wraps a little bit around because they didn't center it before they did it. So it's like comes over onto the side a little bit. It's beautiful, everyone.

Adriana (12:24)

It's beautiful. It's a design choice. What can I say? Well, we've gotta into a section we like to call the group chat. We have a bunch to get into, but before we do, we want to talk about the beginning of the year. Real quick, let's get into what's been happening in our text thread this week. Shout out to peloton for sponsoring the group chat. It's the new year. Did you make resolutions? Are you working on those? Are you not that kind of person?

Emily Henry (12:46)

Okay. I love to. I love that I'm going to get to do some spawn con here. Like, this is not actual spawn con. I'm not being compensated, to be clear. Okay, so I don't usually do resolutions, but I met this wonderful girl who works at Netflix, Alana, who was like, I always do a bingo card. And I was like, okay, we're doing bingo cards. So I had some friends in town for the holiday and we all made bingo cards that, like, had some mixes of, like, mostly good things, but it was like, also like crying in the car. It's like, I want a chance to win, you know?

Adriana (13:13)

Right.

Emily Henry (13:14)

Yeah. So on that I did put. Do it. I wanted to, like, do something reasonable because I know myself. I said I'm gonna do at least 50 bar and or Pilates classes with my Peloton app. Because I think 50. I'm like, if I phone it in all year long, then the last month of the year, I can just do like two classes a day and still hit my. Still get my ex.

Adriana (13:35)

That sounds awful.

Emily Henry (13:38)

For one week in January. Yes. I can't wait.

Olivia (13:42)

That's a good one.

Emily Henry (13:43)

Do you guys have any resolutions?

Adriana (13:44)

We like to make goals alone. Is calling them. What do you call them this year?

Emily Henry (13:47)

Quest.

Olivia (13:47)

My quest.

Adriana (13:47)

I'm just calling them quests.

Emily Henry (13:48)

Quests.

Lilah (13:49)

Because I just sometimes when we say goals and it's like, I gotta lose 50 pounds or I gotta do this. I'm like, if it happens, it happens.

Emily Henry (13:55)

Yeah, it's a quest. It's the journey, not our destination.

Lilah (13:58)

Exactly.

Emily Henry (13:59)

Thank you, kid.

Lilah (13:59)

Exactly. So I wrote quests above on my feet. Because we're all journalers, so we all sit down and journal and I wrote some quests on there. What quests do I have?

Emily Henry (14:09)

Yeah, let's hear some of them. How's it going so far?

Lilah (14:12)

Pretty good. I mean, we're early days. I have some ideas. Like, I want to do. Like, I have.

Adriana (14:21)

I want to.

Lilah (14:22)

I have a children's book idea that I really like to get started with.

Adriana (14:25)

She's been talking about that for a while.

Emily Henry (14:27)

It's gonna be good.

Lilah (14:28)

Would like to. I wanna spend money on things that make me happy. Not like, I'm not doing that. I'll be honest. Let's real. I'm spending a lot of money.

Adriana (14:35)

Denied herself anything, right?

Emily Henry (14:37)

Recently.

Lilah (14:37)

I mean, I used to be such a saver and I'm getting out of that, but I want to, like, spend on things that make me happy. And sometimes even still, I'm like, that's pretty. A lot. I'm like, you can afford it. Like, it's okay because our almost like, you better save up.

Emily Henry (14:51)

Yeah. Yeah.

Lilah (14:52)

So I want to spend more on what? Actually, that should be yours. You should write that down.

Emily Henry (14:55)

Yeah. I was gonna say, do you so do. No, that's a great. So that's a good segue. Do they kind of bully you to where they're like, you go buy yourself a pair of pants. Like. Like a good Pair of shoes.

Adriana (15:06)

Shoes constantly. Those are mine.

Lilah (15:07)

Buy yourself a pair of boots.

Adriana (15:09)

She refuses to buy good shoes.

Emily Henry (15:11)

And I.

Adriana (15:11)

There's a quote that's like, you're either in your shoes or in your bed. So it pays to invest in both.

Lilah (15:14)

That's so true.

Adriana (15:15)

You know what I mean?

Emily Henry (15:15)

I believe that. And usually I'm either lying down, I'm wearing the shoes, I'm sitting down. So it's a chair also. Yeah, a chair standing.

Lilah (15:22)

That is a good chair.

Adriana (15:23)

And then we're funny too because when it comes to clothing, we're like, oh, I couldn't spend that. And then a single dinner. Yeah, whatever.

Emily Henry (15:28)

$7,000. Yes. My. So my best friend is a server at a really nice restaurant. And so she like at the end of the year was like doing her taxes. And she was like, I made a lot of money. Where did it all go? And I was like, dinner and lip gloss. Yeah, I know the way that you're eating is this like she's working at this like Michelin starred restaurant and then she's going to all these like every night of the week. She's like, I'm like, you spent your entire paycheck on what she loves. On what she loves.

Lilah (15:53)

Food and lip gloss. It brings you joy. Isn't that like a quote? Like you can't take something to what can you take to the grave? And you can't take the money to the grave.

Emily Henry (16:00)

So have experience. And also money is made up. It's you. It's only there to trade for something better.

Olivia (16:05)

It's.

Emily Henry (16:05)

It's like it's nothing. It's nothing. It doesn't, it's a piece of paper.

Adriana (16:09)

One of my favorite quotes is something my mom said. I don't think she meant to be as like literally revolutionary to me. Like it stuck with me to this day where I was like, I don't know if I should take this trip, if I should go here and do this. I was like, I was fresh out of college, didn't really have money. And she was like, you're not going to miss the money, you're going to miss the experience.

Lilah (16:23)

That might have been somebody else's quote.

Adriana (16:24)

It could be somebody's quote.

Lilah (16:26)

Nita Kumar might have also put some.

Olivia (16:30)

Wrote that out.

Adriana (16:31)

She append that.

Emily Henry (16:32)

Yes.

Lilah (16:33)

I want to be more like assured in spaces I walk into and feel like, oh, I deserve to be here and whatnot. Which I do feel, but I think I can be better with it because at times, you know, I said I'm like, oh, this person has done this or this or this. So I'm gonna try that.

Adriana (16:48)

Wow.

Emily Henry (16:48)

I mean, that is like. I'm so happy that's one of your requests. But I also. That's, like, a little bit heartbreaking because it's like, just. I would just assume that you feel like you belong in every single room. Like, you are like, an Olympian.

Olivia (17:00)

I know.

Lilah (17:01)

You know, I thought you. Who. I think it gets from, like, trauma. I hate the word trauma, like, because we throw it out so much. I think it comes from back in the day not feeling very welcome in spaces and feeling uncomfortable in spaces. And so now I'm like, I wanna always make sure, like, I'm right for the space or there and then. And I'm like, okay. First off, Ilona, you're.

Adriana (17:20)

You're Elona.

Emily Henry (17:21)

Yeah. Right?

Olivia (17:22)

Yeah.

Lilah (17:22)

You deserve to be here, whether it's in film or whatever. So I'm. You know, I'm always trying to get better. Cause I am very confident person. But I also have some things that.

Olivia (17:31)

Hold me back for sure.

Emily Henry (17:32)

I mean, I guess that's. That's probably everyone to some extent. But I feel like the more that, like, you do that and you go on that quest of assuredness, you're making more room and space for other women and girls to, like, do the same thing and be like, oh, I guess I'm okay. I guess I'm allowed to exist.

Lilah (17:47)

Wait, Exactly.

Emily Henry (17:48)

I be here.

Lilah (17:49)

My quest. Yeah.

Emily Henry (17:51)

A noble quest.

Lilah (17:52)

Thank you.

Emily Henry (17:52)

Yeah.

Olivia (17:53)

I love that noble quest. You should put noble on top of that.

Emily Henry (17:56)

Spend more money.

Lilah (17:57)

Very noble.

Adriana (17:59)

Very noble of you.

Emily Henry (18:00)

I should say that. Same friend who spent all of her money on dinner and lip gloss. I. We do joke that she's my financial advisor because she. She is the one who will be like, just buy it. Yeah, just buy it. What is wrong with you? And I'm like, I don't know. Like, yeah, my upbringing. I can't do it if you. And like, if you can do something for free, you don't pay someone to do it, even if you're gonna do a bad job. Like, finally kind of broken through that.

Adriana (18:21)

Yeah.

Emily Henry (18:22)

Like, I know. Like, I'm not an electrician. I'm not gonna, like, try to hang a light, you know?

Lilah (18:26)

That's exactly my thought, too.

Olivia (18:28)

Yeah.

Adriana (18:28)

Yeah.

Olivia (18:29)

Just. It's worth the time and struggle or think about it.

Emily Henry (18:32)

Yeah, absolutely.

Adriana (18:33)

One of mine, I guess a quest or a goal. But you've heard this, like, the cut topic of showing up as your highest self, or what would your highest self do? Right now, I'm loving that. So I'm like trying to like, okay, in this moment, what would my highest self be doing? She wouldn't be doom scrolling endlessly. She would be doing X. Right?

Emily Henry (18:48)

Or just like, wait, she'd be doing X. Your highest sel would be doing X. That's so true.

Adriana (18:55)

I should tap in and ask her.

Emily Henry (18:56)

Hold on.

Adriana (18:57)

And I.

Emily Henry (18:58)

And in many ways I am doing X.

Adriana (18:59)

And maybe I am right now, I don't know.

Olivia (19:01)

We were journaling the other day and well, like, I just started. She's like, you know what you should write about? What is your highest self doing?

Emily Henry (19:08)

Oh my gosh, I love this.

Adriana (19:09)

I wrote this once on TikTok and now I'm just like rolling with this change.

Lilah (19:12)

I was like, oh, okay.

Emily Henry (19:14)

She's making a really, a lot of really good guess.

Olivia (19:16)

I got like two pages down. @ first it was a little on the edge of self.

Lilah (19:20)

Hatred.

Olivia (19:21)

Yeah. Just like she wouldn't be doing this and she would, she'd be doing that and that of just like everything.

Lilah (19:25)

I could improve about.

Olivia (19:26)

Myself. But it was a great.

Adriana (19:28)

Exercise. Yeah, it was.

Emily Henry (19:29)

Good. Do you journal occasionally? I did as like when I was growing up, I journaled a.

Adriana (19:34)

Ton. You have to.

Emily Henry (19:34)

Yeah. You have so many thoughts, so many feelings, and every once in a while I do find one of those and think, wish this didn't exist. Wish this didn't exist. It's funny, like, I feel like I'm finally to the age where, like when I, you know, like when I see teenagers, I'm less. Like, they're not gonna bully me. I'm like, they're cute and little. Like I'm finally hitting that moment finally in my life. But then like, sometimes when I revisit myself of youth, I'm like, this is still so humiliating and I can still feel it all so deeply. But yeah, so I don't do a ton of journaling. I do, you know, I feel like it's probably that thing of like, if I'm writing, I should be writing. Like, I should be writing, but maybe that should have been one of my quests. Rest. It's not on my bingo card, I'll tell you that. So if it happens, I can literally say, that wasn't on my bingo.

Adriana (20:18)

Card. Wasn't on the bingo.

Olivia (20:19)

Card.

Emily Henry (20:19)

Yeah. I.

Lilah (20:19)

Love. Well, this wasn't on my bingo.

Emily Henry (20:22)

Card. I could sit down and literally do it any moment. And I'm like, wow, I really shook the.

Lilah (20:27)

Foundation. Good for.

Adriana (20:30)

You. I've seen. I haven't seen the bingo card. I love that idea. I might go make one myself. But people buy themselves those mini, like, Prosecco bottles, and then they tie their goal to it for the year or however long it takes them, and then they're like, buy a new car. They buy a new car, they get to pop the little mini bottle. Or it's like they got a promotion at work, then they pop their mini.

Emily Henry (20:45)

Bottle. That's such a good idea because I feel like as an adult, you have so few markers of, like, time passing. And also it just goes so fast, and you're just like, what did I even do? It's so easy to forget. And I do think having those intentional ways to celebrate the little things, things that you're like, I did the thing that I wanted to.

Olivia (21:00)

Do.

Emily Henry (21:00)

Exactly. The little things make up the big.

Adriana (21:02)

Things. It's also.

Emily Henry (21:03)

Special. So.

Adriana (21:04)

True. And we like having those journals to look back on and remember those.

Emily Henry (21:07)

Things. So do all three of you.

Lilah (21:08)

Journal?

Olivia (21:09)

Yeah. Olivia got us into.

Emily Henry (21:10)

It. Oh, my.

Olivia (21:11)

God. 2019, I think is when.

Lilah (21:12)

You.

Olivia (21:12)

2018. 2018.

Adriana (21:14)

Jesus. I used to be. You know what bullet journaling.

Emily Henry (21:16)

Is? Oh, yeah. Oh, ye. See, I'm not. I'm not organized enough for that. It's like in my dreams, I'm a bullet journaler. We're not in my.

Adriana (21:22)

Dreams. I used to. I used to have like a whole Instagram page for it. I would make these beautiful aesthetic spreads, but then I wasn't actually being productive with it.

Emily Henry (21:28)

Anymore. You're like, spending all your time.

Lilah (21:29)

Making it through because it was being.

Adriana (21:31)

Perceived. So I no longer do that. I look my journal be as messy as it needs to be, and it's way more productive and like a safe space to land. Now it's.

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Olivia (24:32)

Busy. See.

Emily Henry (24:32)

Terms. Did you guys ever, when you were growing up, did you ever have, like, a shared notebook that you would, like, pass around or, like, write things to each other.

Olivia (24:39)

In?

Emily Henry (24:39)

No. I mean, you lived together, so I'm like, I didn't have sisters, so, like, that was a thing that I would do with, like, my girlfriends. But if I'd had sisters, maybe I'd be like, I don't need that. No. Yeah, they're there all the time.

Lilah (24:49)

But I can't get rid of.

Olivia (24:50)

Them. I could talk to her.

Emily Henry (24:52)

Instead. Yeah, right. Or like, you're like, get out of my room. Leave me.

Olivia (24:55)

Alone. More than they would say that to.

Adriana (24:57)

Me. Right. Don't touch my notebook.

Emily Henry (24:59)

Yeah. For.

Lilah (25:00)

Real. That's a good idea.

Adriana (25:01)

Though. Do you still have those.

Emily Henry (25:03)

Notebooks? I don't. I don't. I think that one of my friends does still have a lot of hers and she might have one of ours. But again, I'm like, do I want it? Dare.

Lilah (25:11)

I? It's fun to look back.

Emily Henry (25:12)

On.

Lilah (25:13)

Yeah. It's spooky to remember those things that you felt and you're like, why did I think that was such a crazy, important thing to me? Like, why would that change.

Emily Henry (25:20)

Me?

Olivia (25:20)

Right.

Emily Henry (25:21)

Yeah. And also, like, looking at the different stages, for me at least, of trying to have different kinds of handwriting.

Lilah (25:25)

Right. Oh, did when we try a lot of.

Emily Henry (25:27)

Curses. Yes. And like, bubble. I was going to say the bubble.

Olivia (25:30)

Letters. Yeah, the different A that.

Emily Henry (25:32)

You. Yes, the A. Yes, the A. That's like almost an E. Does.

Adriana (25:36)

Everybody else do the line through their seven? Do you know what I.

Emily Henry (25:39)

Mean? I didn't really. And sometimes I do now because I'm like, well, how are they going to know if it's a one or a seven? Like, I get obsessive about it even though, like, it's. I still.

Adriana (25:46)

Do. I do, like, the, like the. The foot on it, the seven and then the.

Lilah (25:49)

Line. I'm like, you do the foot on.

Adriana (25:50)

It. What's it like from the top of it? It's like, up.

Olivia (25:53)

Like. Yeah, that's.

Emily Henry (25:54)

Weird. Wait, the little, like, hook.

Adriana (25:56)

Over. The hook over. I do the hook over and the line through it. Third. Third.

Olivia (25:59)

Grade.

Emily Henry (25:59)

Me. Okay. No one's mistaking that for a while, I'll say.

Lilah (26:02)

That. Why are we writing our A's, guys? Are we doing the little, like, now I'm not. Now I'm not. But at the time, you all go through.

Emily Henry (26:09)

That. Yeah, yeah. That's an important rite of.

Olivia (26:11)

Passage. That is.

Emily Henry (26:13)

Girlhood. That is.

Adriana (26:14)

Girlhood. Can we clip this and make it seem like we're all.

Emily Henry (26:16)

Spelling? Can you drop. Put this on.

Adriana (26:19)

The.

Olivia (26:19)

Yeah. Mine, though, I always would go between, like, the two. Where it didn't have a little bubble and then the two that did. And that has messed up my writing. Like, I'll be writing, like, I just filled out my lease and it was for 20, 26. And I did the twos differently each.

Emily Henry (26:36)

Time. Yes. Yeah. And then you're like, if the FBI needed to look at a handwriting sample, would they know for sure? Like, or what would this say about me? That they're like. This person is like. And I always switch between cursive and regular. Like, regular style.

Adriana (26:51)

Roman. I saw something once that, like, bad handwriting is a sign of intelligence, and I'm rolling with it. So your brain is working too fast for.

Lilah (26:58)

You. You have pretty good handwriting.

Adriana (26:59)

Though. Now, that's fucked.

Emily Henry (27:02)

Up. She really came for you. Are you gonna let that.

Lilah (27:06)

Stand? I got a dumb story, but recently I was with getting a procedure, and there was a nurse there, and we were talking about nursing school, and I was like, oh, when did you graduate nursing.

Emily Henry (27:15)

School? And she.

Lilah (27:15)

Said. Said.

Emily Henry (27:16)

2003.

Adriana (27:17)

2003. What does that mean.

Emily Henry (27:20)

2003?

Lilah (27:20)

2003. She called it 2003. I was like. It was like, me and, like, two doctors. And I was like.

Adriana (27:26)

Yeah. And were you all, like, carrying the.

Lilah (27:30)

One? Oh, like, 2003? She's like, yeah, yeah.

Adriana (27:34)

Yeah. I was like.

Lilah (27:34)

2003.

Emily Henry (27:36)

2003. I would expect that you would have to be in whatever comes after Gen Alpha to do that this year.

Lilah (27:42)

Later. Yeah, I think. I wasn't sure if she thought it was, like, cool or different, but I could not figure out. Figure out what year she was saying, 23. She said, 20. No.

Emily Henry (27:52)

Shit. You.

Lilah (27:52)

Not. I'm there about to get a needle pressed in my.

Emily Henry (27:54)

Shoulder. You're like, I don't know if I trust.

Lilah (27:56)

Her. And she says, 2003. And I was like, you were.

Olivia (27:58)

Like, get her out of.

Emily Henry (27:59)

Here. Take that out of.

Adriana (27:59)

There. Get her out of.

Emily Henry (28:00)

Here. Everyone knows it's 2003. She was like, fully an alien who was, like, impersonating a human. And she's like, I think I got.

Lilah (28:06)

It. It's like that Inglourious. Have you seen that Inglourious Basterds clip where it's like, oh, the German way of saying three is this. And then he does.

Adriana (28:13)

This. Oh, he does.

Emily Henry (28:14)

This. And that's how it gets out of the.

Lilah (28:15)

Way. That's not a.

Emily Henry (28:17)

Nurse. That's not a nurse. You were in to catch me if you situation a con artist who was 14 years old and was like. I'm pretty sure they called it.

Adriana (28:24)

2003. I got her.

Lilah (28:25)

Right? Anyway, I was born in.

Olivia (28:26)

What?

Lilah (28:27)

What? Actually.

Emily Henry (28:28)

1996. Yeah, but that is.

Olivia (28:29)

19.

Adriana (28:30)

Yeah. You can't even say a fun.

Emily Henry (28:32)

Way.

Adriana (28:32)

1996.

Emily Henry (28:37)

No. 1996. Yeah, they'll be saying that, don't you think? Because we say like the 1900s and sometimes, sometimes people say the 1900s and they mean the 90s now. Sometimes they don't. Sometimes that's happening, happening. I've heard, I believe 1900s, the late in the.

Lilah (28:51)

Latest. Well, when were you born? Oh, the late.

Emily Henry (28:54)

1900S.

Adriana (28:54)

Yes. I'm gonna say that once you.

Olivia (28:56)

Start getting old, that's gonna be really.

Emily Henry (28:57)

Impressive. It is. They're gonna be like, whoa, I can't believe you were alive back.

Adriana (29:01)

Then.

Olivia (29:01)

Yeah. Your grandkids minds are gonna be.

Emily Henry (29:03)

Blown. They're going to be shaking and.

Adriana (29:05)

They'Re like, are you a vampire from the Twilight Saga?

Emily Henry (29:08)

Yes. Because our skin is all going to be so.

Adriana (29:09)

Good. They're gonna be like good and.

Emily Henry (29:11)

Sparkly. Grandma, you're.

Lilah (29:13)

34. Yeah. Grandma, why can't you.

Olivia (29:15)

Smile?

Emily Henry (29:17)

Yeah. You're not ever happy. But you are.

Adriana (29:20)

Slaying. You're slaying.

Emily Henry (29:22)

Girl. You're serving. Serving your ass off. G Ma, we talk so much. We have to miss the thing about the. About Tom Brady and Kathy Griffin.

Olivia (29:30)

Something. I think we're.

Lilah (29:31)

Okay. Shoot, she put that in there as.

Adriana (29:34)

Fun. It.

Lilah (29:34)

Was. Kathy Griffith recently shared that she accidentally fell in love with a 23 year old, which we've heard dating younger men is.

Emily Henry (29:40)

In. Is that in? It is. It.

Adriana (29:42)

Is. Do you recommend that.

Emily Henry (29:43)

For. I mean, I have two friends who are in there who are 35, about to turn 36, who have 26 year old boyfriends born after Titanic came out and they are having a great.

Lilah (29:53)

Time. Is that how they're.

Adriana (29:54)

Going?

Emily Henry (29:55)

Yes. Well, that's how I found out because I. I don't know, I. Well the first time I met one of them, like, I don't know how it came up. And then I was like, wait, doing math. Doing the math of 2003.21 and I was like, wait a second. Were you born. I don't know if he offered it. I think I asked. He was like, oh, yeah, I was born after that. And I was like, that doesn't.

Adriana (30:16)

Exist. That's spooky. He never knew the two VHS.

Emily Henry (30:19)

Tapes. He never had the two VHS tapes that he, like, wasn't really supposed to watch. But he was watching. But he watched where he was allowed to watch only the first.

Adriana (30:25)

One. Right, right.

Lilah (30:26)

Right. John. I recently did a joke like this, but, you know in Twilight, when she goes like, how long have you been 17? That's you with the boyfriend. How old have you.

Emily Henry (30:35)

Been? 26. Yes. I'm like. Like, I still also have friends who. Because I met. They're just, like a couple of years younger than me, but I met them when they were like, 23. And so now I'm like, you're like, what? 28? And they're like, I'm 33. And I'm like, oh. Oh.

Adriana (30:48)

Okay. How's that work age with.

Emily Henry (30:51)

You? Yeah. Right. That's weird. That's weird. So, yeah. Younger men, I think. I think actually there's something to that. I don't know. I think there might be. I don't know.

Lilah (31:01)

Yeah. I think age can be. Older men can.

Emily Henry (31:04)

Be. Yeah. Good.

Lilah (31:06)

Yeah. Some art can be.

Emily Henry (31:07)

Good. My grandfather is a wonderful man. Great, great person.

Lilah (31:13)

Wow. Great guy, you.

Emily Henry (31:14)

Know. No, he's not, but, you know. Damn. Yeah. All right. He might have some.

Adriana (31:19)

Friends. Cool.

Emily Henry (31:21)

Yeah. I'll check if any of them are still with us. Thank.

Lilah (31:23)

You. Is your husband older or.

Emily Henry (31:24)

Younger? He's older, but not by, like, a.

Lilah (31:26)

Lot.

Emily Henry (31:26)

Boring. Yeah. Just the normal. I know, I know. I wish I could be 2003. Not 2003. No, no. Just the traditional.

Adriana (31:33)

Yeah.

Emily Henry (31:33)

Not. There's no big age gap to. To, like, trad wife over here. I know. I mean, well, when you get a peep at. Hell, yeah, these are working hands. No, I really feel like I should say that I am. I am not. I don't know how to do.

Adriana (31:49)

Anything.

Emily Henry (31:49)

Yeah. I don't know. So I'm a trad wife and that. I don't know how to do anything. I'm like, I can go sit down and make up a.

Lilah (31:53)

Story. Yeah, but you can.

Olivia (31:54)

Write.

Lilah (31:54)

Yeah. Do you love a.

Emily Henry (31:58)

Salad? I actually do love.

Lilah (32:00)

Salad.

Adriana (32:01)

Like. Like your Midwestern.

Lilah (32:02)

Forms. Like, different.

Emily Henry (32:03)

Forms. I'm. You know what? I love the idea of it. I love the idea of, like, a jello salad. You know, the sweet. I love the idea of it. But no, I'm Mostly. I'm mostly with a normal green salad. Oh, I love a potato salad. I'll say that.

Lilah (32:20)

We. We're into salads. She recently. Big thing is getting into salads.

Adriana (32:23)

Because she didn't eat lettuce.

Olivia (32:24)

Before.

Emily Henry (32:25)

No. I think you're a recent convert to lettuce.

Olivia (32:27)

Okay. The sweet green of it all. Yeah. Now I. I actually made my first successful one at home that I.

Emily Henry (32:33)

Liked. Oh, my.

Olivia (32:34)

God. Did it cost me $60 to get all the.

Emily Henry (32:36)

Ingredients? Yeah, yeah, it did.

Olivia (32:37)

Right? And then I was so sick of.

Adriana (32:39)

It. I was like, three days.

Emily Henry (32:40)

Right? No, it's not a nightly thing. I don't know how people can be like, I have salad for lunch every single day. It's like once a week. Your body's like, give me a.

Olivia (32:48)

Salad. Like, I need the greens.

Emily Henry (32:49)

Now.

Olivia (32:49)

Yeah. Sometimes if I'm. I go too long without a.

Lilah (32:51)

Sweet green, I'm like.

Emily Henry (32:52)

Yeah. But you know what also is great is broccoli or brussels sprouts that have been sauteed with a lot of oil and.

Lilah (33:00)

Garlic. Or deep.

Emily Henry (33:01)

Fried. Or deep.

Olivia (33:01)

Fried. What are.

Lilah (33:02)

We. That's crazy, because the first time she had a Brussels sprouts was because she never liked them. And then we went to this place and they're like, I want to see the brussels sprouts, because I would eat them. And like, you want to add bacon? Of.

Emily Henry (33:11)

Course. Want to add bacon.

Lilah (33:11)

Too. She loves Brussels.

Olivia (33:13)

Sprouts. It changed my.

Lilah (33:14)

Life. She.

Emily Henry (33:14)

Fried. Okay. Do you. I have to ask you guys this. We're going to put all of our parents on blast for a moment. Do you feel like your parents were serving you vegetables that were all.

Lilah (33:21)

Steamed? All.

Emily Henry (33:22)

Steamed. So you thought vegetables were.

Lilah (33:24)

Disgusting? No, it was. They.

Adriana (33:26)

Did. Over steam? I would say they did Alber.

Lilah (33:28)

Steam.

Olivia (33:29)

Butter.

Adriana (33:29)

Yeah. Butter, nutmeg, salt.

Emily Henry (33:30)

Pepper. Okay, then that helps. I feel like I was eating steamed vegetables. So I did think Brussels sprouts were.

Adriana (33:35)

Disgusting. Oh.

Emily Henry (33:35)

Yeah. Steamed.

Lilah (33:36)

Brussels. Soak it.

Emily Henry (33:38)

Up. You need to get that char on the outside. That's really.

Lilah (33:41)

Important. No. Our parents love to steam vegetables. And then I went to one friend's house who I just remember, she was like a very.

Olivia (33:49)

Tiny.

Lilah (33:49)

Yeah. And she was healthy. And they just put lemon on their broccoli. I remember coming to my.

Emily Henry (33:55)

House. I was like, you're like, we're having sour.

Adriana (33:59)

Broccoli. Sour.

Emily Henry (34:01)

Broccoli. I was like, yeah, I too do.

Lilah (34:03)

That. I too.

Emily Henry (34:04)

Do.

Olivia (34:05)

Yeah. Or the worst is like, broccoli that I've had people boil it and then it's too hot. So then they shock it with cold water, and so that's all they do. And so it's just filled with cold.

Adriana (34:14)

Water. Oh, you bite into.

Olivia (34:15)

It. Bite into.

Emily Henry (34:15)

It. Cold, watery.

Lilah (34:17)

Broccoli. Let's get into roasting vegetables, guys. In 2026. It's so funny. Okay, wait, but, Olivia, so, like, where is this going? Oh, in our house. My mom is an amazing cook. She cooks with butter and carbs.

Emily Henry (34:32)

And it's the right way to.

Lilah (34:33)

Cook. When I tell these girls to make, like, a vegetable of some kind of, like, they cannot make.

Emily Henry (34:38)

It. Oh, my.

Olivia (34:40)

Gosh. She'll.

Lilah (34:40)

Make. In England, when I had you make broccolini once, and they don't know how to, like, physically don't know how to cook a.

Emily Henry (34:47)

Vegetable. So that's, like, the only thing I know how to.

Adriana (34:49)

Do. Steaming.

Emily Henry (34:50)

It. Because unless they're steaming it, you are steam. You're still in.

Adriana (34:54)

20. But if you ask me to.

Emily Henry (34:58)

Make broccoli, I'd be like, I gotta.

Adriana (34:59)

Figure out how to steam this right.

Emily Henry (35:01)

Now. Do you know you can put any. Almost anything you can just put in a pan with oil and salt and pepper. I'm learning that now till it's.

Adriana (35:08)

Dead. And then I was doing hers, like, in the oven or something, and it was either totally raw still or, like, way overdone.

Olivia (35:14)

Right? And she was like, probably dripping in.

Lilah (35:16)

Oil. Being an oil. Adriana, I'm very.

Emily Henry (35:20)

Thankful. It was.

Lilah (35:20)

Awesome. But I was like, okay, Olivia, this is a good try at cooking vegetable.

Emily Henry (35:27)

Cook. A try is your quest. Here's your gold.

Adriana (35:29)

Star. I guess add a.

Emily Henry (35:31)

Gold. My.

Lilah (35:32)

Quest. I kept saying, she can make a pasta like.

Adriana (35:33)

A.

Emily Henry (35:33)

Okay. That's the more important skill.

Adriana (35:36)

Set. Thank.

Emily Henry (35:37)

You. To do a.

Adriana (35:38)

Vegetable. She know you had these gripes with my red.

Emily Henry (35:40)

Vegetables. She's like, what is this?

Lilah (35:41)

Broccoli. You remember one time, it was the beginning of last year when he made these broccoli, and I was like.

Adriana (35:46)

I didn't know they had been.

Lilah (35:47)

Cooked. Guys, guys. Anyway, we were in the group chat too long. This is what happens in group.

Emily Henry (35:51)

Chats, where you just, like.

Lilah (35:52)

Want. Somebody says something, and then you keep.

Emily Henry (35:54)

Going. This is how a group chat actually.

Adriana (35:55)

Functions.

Emily Henry (35:56)

Exactly. This is why it's the greatest modern.

Adriana (35:58)

Invention. And you know when you have a group chat going and it's, like, on.

Lilah (36:01)

Fire.

Emily Henry (36:01)

Yes. We're like, we are the funniest. And when everyone's there at the same time. How did this happen? Oh, it's a happen. Oh, my God. There's nothing like.

Olivia (36:08)

It. Sometimes I yearn for it. From like, high school when everybody was on their.

Emily Henry (36:12)

Phones. Yeah, yeah.

Olivia (36:13)

Yeah. And I'm just like people. It's very rare when you get into that flow.

Emily Henry (36:16)

State. It's so the flow. It is the flow state. You're like, I'm in a trance. Yeah. I missed the G Chat days. I don't know if you guys ever did G Chat, but I love. I would be chatting morning, noon, and.

Adriana (36:25)

Night. And sometimes you have like a status on G Chat.

Emily Henry (36:28)

Too. Do you like, became AIM again? For a second, for a moment.

Lilah (36:31)

There. I don't have friends. I don't know what G Chat.

Olivia (36:33)

Is. It was like a Google, like on your.

Lilah (36:36)

Gmail. Like a little pop. When they were. The homies were live.

Emily Henry (36:43)

Yeah. It was so mad. Okay. I remember one of my first times having one of those, like, simultaneous conversations with the same person was on G.

Olivia (36:50)

Chat.

Emily Henry (36:50)

Yeah. And my best friend from college and I were just like, pretending, like, without talking about it. We just started typing, like, exactly how we typed in middle school. Aim. So it'd be like, like what? What? Like I. I don't even remember now, but all the abbreviations. What? Yeah, like all of it.

Adriana (37:06)

Yeah.

Emily Henry (37:06)

And. And then being. And then we were just typing, like, what are you up to? What? Might go to the basketball game later. Lol. Cool. Got a lot of homework, though.

Adriana (37:13)

Lol. What.

Emily Henry (37:14)

Doing? Yeah, what doing? Yeah, but like, all the weird, like, not much here. Nmh. JC not much here. Just chilling.

Adriana (37:20)

You. Yeah.

Emily Henry (37:21)

Yeah. And so we were doing that for so long and we couldn't quit, but then we needed to talk about something else. And so she texted me and so we were like, okay, this is business. Yeah, the business and.

Adriana (37:30)

Pleasure. Business and.

Emily Henry (37:31)

Pleasure. Here's the mullet of what was Lilas. I love you like a.

Adriana (37:35)

Sister. Love you like a.

Emily Henry (37:35)

Sister. Love you like a sister, only better. Oh, but that we wouldn't. You would only say that if you didn't have sisters, I think. And that's why I would use.

Adriana (37:42)

That. Oh, yeah, that works for.

Emily Henry (37:43)

You. You're like. She's like, I didn't ever say that to.

Adriana (37:47)

My. Well, my, like, good friend Joe, one of my love and my gay best friend. He was like, lilas. And I was like, what is that? And he's like, love you like.

Lilah (37:53)

Sister. I was like, oh, kind of a cute baby name. Is that.

Emily Henry (37:55)

Crazy? Lilas and cigar.

Lilah (37:58)

Me? Where did my name come.

Adriana (37:59)

From? You.

Lilah (37:59)

See? What about when I would G.

Adriana (38:01)

Chat? What about back in.

Emily Henry (38:04)

20? Little brother and her little brother. Nmh.

Adriana (38:07)

Jc, shut.

Emily Henry (38:10)

Up. You are not Welcome, T.

Lilah (38:13)

Dyl. Kind of beautiful.

Adriana (38:16)

Names. Yeah, kind of beautiful. I don't know. All.

Emily Henry (38:18)

Right. Yeah. I have an idea that I made up years ago that I think I'm not doing this to children. But I do think I thought Pample Moose and Tarot. Pample Moose. Like half bad, actually. I'm sure there's already a lot of little Tarot is running around, don't you think?

Adriana (38:31)

But. But with having a sibling named.

Emily Henry (38:32)

Pamper Tarot and then Pharaoh, but not Pharaoh like the name Pharaoh. Like the grain. The grain for twins. If you. If there's any twins out there in some.

Olivia (38:44)

Ideas. That's.

Adriana (38:45)

Not. I think that should be like a band name too. They should actually. Your kids named her and Pharaoh start a.

Emily Henry (38:49)

Band. That's true. We got to work on that. Got to work on.

Lilah (38:51)

That. I like Pharaoh cuz that could also be.

Emily Henry (38:53)

O. The. Yeah, a.

Adriana (38:55)

King.

Lilah (38:55)

Yeah. But it's actually his mom named.

Emily Henry (38:57)

After a grain or Pharaoh and ball named after my favorite paint store. Oh, okay. Shout.

Lilah (39:02)

Out. Shout.

Emily Henry (39:03)

Out. I'm really here to just try and get free stuff, you guys. I'm like, as you. My favorite as you.

Adriana (39:08)

Show. We talk Venus Razors. They just sent us like 8,000 Venus Razor Bl. I'm like, everyone in this office is getting Venus Razor.

Olivia (39:15)

Bl. You got to.

Emily Henry (39:16)

Be. You want under your.

Adriana (39:18)

Chest. Oh my.

Emily Henry (39:20)

Gosh. I want that. All.

Adriana (39:22)

Right. We have loved this group chat. Thanks again to Emily's bingo buddies at.

Emily Henry (39:28)

Peloton. Oh, Lulu and Georgia. I also just have. I'm waiting for a couch and stools from them. I'm not kidding. I should have come. I should have come here six months ago. You.

Adriana (39:35)

Guys. I picked this on Lulu and Georgia. This. This.

Emily Henry (39:37)

Wallpaper. Wait, is this the Sarah Sherman Samuels.

Adriana (39:40)

Wallpaper? Is it from Lulu and Georgia? You aren't.

Emily Henry (39:44)

Kidding. Well, one of my friends works for her, but I did order a bunch of Sarah Sherman. She has some really beautiful stuff on Lulu and Georgia. That's the truth. That's the God's honest.

Adriana (39:52)

Truth. I gotta lock in on that this year for my. For my house. Oh, I got to decorate.

Emily Henry (39:56)

More. I'm addicted to HomeGoods shopping. I love it. Like, I need a much bigger. I do not have a big house, but I'm like, I would. I need a mansion so that I can.

Lilah (40:03)

Buy. To fill.

Emily Henry (40:04)

More. More.

Adriana (40:05)

Furniture. I don't need a new couch. I want a new.

Lilah (40:07)

Couch. You know what I.

Adriana (40:08)

Mean? Dangerous stuff. I'm also a Facebook Marketplace.

Emily Henry (40:11)

Placer. That is. That is actually.

Adriana (40:12)

Dangerous. I see it when I close my eyes at night. Like I close my eyes and I'm like scrolling.

Emily Henry (40:17)

On. Wait. Do you send them when you find like the weirdest things? Do you set. Who do you. Do you have like a person you send the those screenshots.

Olivia (40:23)

To? My.

Adriana (40:23)

Mom.

Emily Henry (40:23)

Okay. Sometimes you're like, will you go get me this haunted doll? You go pick it up.

Adriana (40:27)

Mom.

Emily Henry (40:27)

Yeah. It's closer to you than to.

Adriana (40:29)

Me. It's closer to you. And you can go pick up these plates that I found for you because she loves.

Olivia (40:32)

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Adriana (42:02)

R. It is now time for what we like to call tea time. So to set the stage, people we meet on vacation is about best friends Poppy and Alex who take yearly summer trips until a disastrous vacation two years prior Ends their friendship. An unexpected reunion helps them ultimately explore whether their deep friendship can become something.

Emily Henry (42:17)

More. Oh, my.

Adriana (42:19)

God. So we are gonna ask you about people we meet on.

Emily Henry (42:24)

Vacation.

Adriana (42:24)

Yes. That's cool with.

Emily Henry (42:25)

You? Of course. I'm. Yeah, that's like, what? I'm living right.

Adriana (42:28)

Now. Because last night when we met you at the premiere, you were like, I'm so excited to come on the show. Like, do I have to talk about sports? I was like, no, it's.

Emily Henry (42:33)

Okay. No, no, it was the opposite of that. I was trying to explain to my husband what the. He's very offline, which is a beautiful thing for.

Lilah (42:41)

Me. Oh, I love.

Emily Henry (42:41)

That. For him, it's beautiful. But it's like, I Like, that's a.

Olivia (42:44)

Man. Oh.

Emily Henry (42:44)

My. You guys, this is how offline he is. Sometimes I don't tell him bad things that happen. Like, not, like, in.

Adriana (42:48)

Globally.

Emily Henry (42:49)

Right. But like, he knows about those. But like, within the last four months, we. My whole family was together, and somebody said something about Diddy, and my husband, completely serious, goes, oh, no. Did he do.

Lilah (43:00)

Something?

Emily Henry (43:02)

Okay. I was like, I'm so sorry. I should have told.

Adriana (43:04)

You. Maybe he should have went to the.

Emily Henry (43:07)

Internet. But. So he was like, oh, it's about. So it's about sports. And I was like, no, you don't get it. This is like, yeah, it's about sisterhood. I was like, all women love.

Adriana (43:13)

Them.

Emily Henry (43:13)

Yeah. I was like, you don't understand. It's just about.

Adriana (43:15)

Women. It's women being.

Emily Henry (43:17)

Women.

Adriana (43:17)

Yeah.

Emily Henry (43:17)

Yeah. Ye. Don't.

Lilah (43:18)

Worry. A lot of men don't know the podcast, so he's forgiven on that front. On the D front. We should.

Emily Henry (43:23)

Print. We.

Lilah (43:24)

Should. Some.

Emily Henry (43:24)

Slides. Yeah. The dating. Well, there's documentaries for that. There's documentaries on.

Lilah (43:28)

That. Yeah, there's a documentary on that. We'll get for.

Adriana (43:30)

It. 5050 cent at something you say about.

Emily Henry (43:32)

It. I mean, I remember, like, texting him the day David Bowie died, and I was like, do I have to be the one to tell my husband that David Bowie died? I was not. Luckily. He was like, yeah. Four other people already texted.

Adriana (43:41)

Me. Okay. Where were they? When did he did his.

Emily Henry (43:45)

Thing? Oh.

Olivia (43:46)

Gosh.

Emily Henry (43:46)

Yeah. They're like. They didn't think he needed to.

Adriana (43:48)

Know that they left that to you.

Emily Henry (43:49)

Okay.

Adriana (43:50)

Co. I love it. So it's almost Netflix release day as we're recording this. But how, for you, does a movie release now differed from a book release.

Emily Henry (43:57)

Day? I.

Adriana (43:58)

Think. Well, some. Both of.

Emily Henry (44:00)

Them. I don't know if you guys feel this, like, with. I Mean. Cause you're doing this podcast. It's like, when you maybe the first one, or like, the Olympics, like, anything where it's like, you feel like, oh, my whole life is gonna feel different after this one thing, or this day is gonna feel huge, and then it happens, and you're like, oh, everything's, like, kind of the same. And that's, like, a good and bad thing. Like, it can be depending on where you are mentally. I feel like with book releases, I learned early on that it's a day where you get a lot of text messages, and then it's out, and you're like, okay, now it's out, and now nothing is different. This movie release process has been more drawn out. So it's been kind of crazy because it's like, we've been doing press, and I've seen the movie, like, six times now in different settings. I know. And I still love it, but I'm like, I actually will take a week probably to watch it next time. It's so good. But, you know, and, like, and doing all these different screenings and fan screenings, and so it's like. It kind of feels like it's already halfway out. Right. So I'm desperate for what you will have already.

Adriana (44:59)

Experienced.

Emily Henry (45:00)

Yes. Perfect. I just want the, like, I just want all the readers to have seen it at this.

Adriana (45:04)

Point.

Emily Henry (45:04)

Yeah.

Lilah (45:04)

Yeah. How much of a hand did you had in having, like, picking the actors and the characters, and they were saying, because I didn't get to see it. But some things were different.

Emily Henry (45:14)

Yeah. As.

Lilah (45:15)

Well. Some things were a little bit different. But, like, did that, you think, make it a little bit better for the.

Emily Henry (45:19)

Screen? For sure. Yeah. So I. I'm. I love getting to dish about all of this. So I think, like, something that most readers don't realize is that authors ultimately have no say at all. You have no say it. And that's just like, it happens occasionally that maybe someone does. But in general, it's like, I have so many friends who've had adaptations where they're like. They basically called me and were like, we're doing press. We need you to pretend that you were, like, involved in this. And they're like, no. Okay. I haven't been able to get anyone to, like, email me back in months. I did not have that experience. I was very, very, very lucky. Even if someone's like, an executive producer, that does not mean anything. That's like a courtesy where they're saying, like, we value you. Go.

Adriana (45:58)

Away. Love you.

Emily Henry (45:59)

Yes. Love you. Later. He's on the forehead, only worse. But so the director, Brett Haley, when he signed on, he had done an adaptation before for all the Bright Places, which was a really beloved YA novel. And so he knew how passionate readers are and he knew you really need to have them on board if you're gonna have a successful adaptation. You don't like, spit in the face of the person who made you get this job. Basically like, this is happening because of this readership. And so he called me right away and was like, give me the full list of everything that you think the readers want to see in it and your non negotiables and all of that. And that was like years ago now. I know, I know. And like, I have to say, this is a straight guy. I was like, really? I was very, you know. Cause I didn't choose the director either. They were just sort of like, and here's who's directing it. And I just feel like we got so lucky that he actually wanted to make the same movie that like, I wanted to be made. And he kept me like up to date on every little change. He kept me up to date on everything. Like when they were talking cast, I knew like, who they were considering and he wanted my opinion. And he couldn't always, like, enforce my opinion, but if I felt strongly about something, he always took it back to the larger team and was like, I think, you know, he was on my, on my side. And I also like, you know, I love movies. I love writing books, but I love movies. So I didn't feel like I expected this to be exactly the book. Like, the point and joy of this is that it gets to be a little bit different. It's what happens when somebody adapts your work. You think about like, I kind of try to prep my readers or I was like, think about Batman. Like there isn't just one Batman. And if you love a certain one, it doesn't mean that the others, you know, don't deserve to exist. And like, if a new one gets made that you don't like as much, it doesn't undo the ones that already exist. So I knew there'd be changes. He tried to like, keep me in the loop and get my opinion and my sign off on like everything that he could. I love this movie. I think it's so good. And there's really only like one thing that I personally am like, oh, I wish this had been a little, a tiny bit more like the book. But in general, I'm like, I'm obsessed. And I think a lot of the changes Just, yeah. Make more sense for the screen. They're like bigger, broader, funnier moments that are more like set piece y. They found really creative ways to take things that are kind of long, slow, building jokes in the novel and make them just kind of happen in one different scene. So that was really, like. I don't know, he really found, like, creative ways to get everything that I wanted in. And I am, like, very spoiled now because I have all these other adaptations and I'm gonna be showing up being like you.

Adriana (48:23)

Guys. This is my.

Emily Henry (48:24)

Standard. This is my standard. Yeah. And the readers, I think and hope that they will feel spoiled too. And I hope that, like, all of the other teams will. Will see this as, like, a good blueprint for, like, how to make a great adaptation. I think, like, Hamnet is another good example. I've not seen it yet, but it's so cool to me that Chloe Zhao, who's like this powerhouse who did not have to let anyone else be involved at all, but she specifically wanted this, the author to co write with her and had to kind of talk her into it. And they got this, by all accounts, beautiful movie out of it because it's like, she's so good at what she does, but the novelist knows the story and these characters so well. And I just think when you can find someone you collaborate with really well, that's when you're gonna get the absolute best outcome. And Brett and I worked really, really well together. That's.

Adriana (49:10)

Gorgeous. We left the theater and Adrana was like, oh, they put some love into that.

Emily Henry (49:13)

Thing. And everyone at Netflix too. They were really passionate. I can't believe everything that. To promote it and all the excitement for it. I mean, you know, the thing with Rom com is, like, the reason that they're, like, easy to get made theoretically is because they're inexpensive compared to, like, a Marvel movie. Like, we don't need special effects, like, whatever. And Netflix has been the first studio to really, like, embrace romance. A lot of the other studios have been very slow to understand that there's an audience there. You're like, wait, women? I haven't heard of that. What do you mean? Could you draw.

Olivia (49:49)

One?

Emily Henry (49:50)

Women. Money, Right? Yeah. Yeah. It's really. It's wild. It's. There's so like, publishing. I feel like already had this moment, like, 10 years ago. They already know. They're like, women are the most voracious readers. They're like a really dedicated.

Adriana (50:03)

Audience. They control the money in the.

Emily Henry (50:05)

Household. Yeah, they do. The spending sociological. Like, like, it's proven so, yeah, I. Yeah, I just feel really lucky that, like, everybody was so passionate and so excited about it. And Dan Lin, the head of film there, like, he. Yeah, he gave like that beautiful speech at the beginning where he was like, my whole goal here when I started was just to, like, make every movie that I made, like, somebody's favorite movie. And with this movie, I know it's gonna be somebody's like, so many people's favorite.

Olivia (50:29)

Movie.

Emily Henry (50:30)

Chills. Yeah. It was so sweet. I mean, we just have been so lucky to have that kind of support. Like, I. Things like this don't happen. It's so hard to get a movie made. Even like a bad.

Lilah (50:38)

Movie.

Emily Henry (50:39)

Yeah. So for a movie to get made, that's a good movie that I.

Olivia (50:41)

Think I walked out of there and I was like, we need to make more rom coms. Movies, like I said, feel like deprived of it. Like a quality where you can.

Lilah (50:50)

Tell there's love and.

Emily Henry (50:52)

Like. Yeah. Conviction. I think that's something that I've realized too. I don't know, like, what your experience has been with this, but I feel like as a viewer, sometimes I watch like rom coms, like the newer, you know, some, not always. And I don't want to like, yuck anyone's yum by any means, but sometimes I do feel like they were made by people who don't love the genre. Or maybe they were. They were probably originally written and directed by people who love the genre, but the powers that be or whatever, you know, there's so many voices. Like the soul. Yeah. And. And like, I have this writer friend who we joke that it's like they're sort of like, there, I bet you like that piggy. And they're like, they're like, yeah, yeah. And you're like, you. Could you ask someone, like, why we love this genre and what it means to us and why it matters and could you take it seriously and by extension take us seriously for a minute? And I think that this movie, it's. It's. They really did it. Like, everybody believed that this was like a piece of art. Yeah. And it doesn't have to be like the most serious piece of art or like the most life changing piece of art. But I think that they saw, like, this is something that has emotional value and like profundity to it. Like Alex and Poppy's story, I think is so relatable that, like, I feel like I'm constantly in that push and pull of am I too much? Am I not enough? Like, that's just such a Real human fear that can get in the way of our intimacy. And. Yeah, I just feel like I want to see. There's so many great romance novels out there, and I want to see so many more rom com films that, like, give the of stories at their heart the, like, care and love that they.

Adriana (52:19)

Deserve. Yeah, absolutely. And because this was so well done, like, I was like, okay, give me.

Emily Henry (52:23)

More. Yeah. And Netflix wants to. I know that. And I hope that the other studios now will also be like, oh, got it, got it, got.

Adriana (52:29)

It. People like.

Emily Henry (52:31)

This. Things that women like are important and like. And also, like, I'm not gonna guess what it is they like about this. I'm gonna go ask them. The professional. Yeah, like, go ask someone why this story matters. Because it's like, I think there's also this idea that it's all just sheer escapism. Because, like, yeah, the world is the worst. The world is not good right now. And I think there's this idea that it's just sheer escapism and it's just fantasy. And I really adamantly do not feel that way. I think that the reason that romance is hitting us all so hard, like, the readers who love it right now is because it's about hope and about the idea of, like, even though things can be very dark and scary and bad and tumultuous, like, there are these little kernels of light. And, like, the best things in life are just, like, things that it's like, just loving people. Like, the best thing that you can possibly have in your life is just loving someone and being loved romantically and otherwise. And, like, I don't know, seeing a story that values that. That puts that at the center and is kind of like, this is the point. Like, this is the point of being. This is like, what we can do is, like, love each other. I don't.

Adriana (53:30)

Know. And it's.

Emily Henry (53:31)

Free. It's free. Yeah.

Adriana (53:32)

Absolutely. And I think what's beautiful about your characters, too, is we talk about this is that when we read a.

Lilah (53:36)

Book and we're like, yeah, that was.

Adriana (53:37)

Good. But I'm almost, like, left feeling, ugh, because that man was so clearly written by a woman. Ye.

Emily Henry (53:44)

Exist. I get that so.

Adriana (53:45)

Hard. Whereas, like, your characters feel real and like, I often say when I would talk about, like, oh, I just read this Emily Henry, and I just. I loved it. Like, I felt like I was being courted. I was in the romance with them. I was flirting through, you know, because it's Julia in my.

Emily Henry (53:58)

Ear. She's the.

Adriana (54:00)

Best. The baddest out of.

Lilah (54:01)

It. She's so.

Adriana (54:02)

Good. And so I just. And your characters feel real that I leave the book feeling actually satisfied instead of, like, this hollow. Like, God, yeah, he was too good. You know, like, they're.

Olivia (54:10)

Human. I think.

Emily Henry (54:11)

So. Totally. And when people. When people are like, oh, she said that, like. Like, lovingly. When people are like, oh, you set the bar too high. I'm like, no, I didn't. Like, if this is too high, then I'm really, really concerned. And. And, you know, I know it is rough out there. I have. I have single friends. I know it's not easy, but I'm like, this, like. Yeah. Like, Alex Nilsson is, like, afraid of feet, kind of. And he's very neurotic, and he doesn't know how to express his emotions. And, like, there's, like, he's got a lot to work through. And he's also wonderful and lovely and, like, a character that I adore. But, like, I don't know. I also, as a reader, I think I feel so much more drawn to that when there is a little bit of mess because it feels like.

Adriana (54:48)

Someone.

Emily Henry (54:49)

Yeah. You could actually fall in love with. It doesn't feel like just an outline of someone that you're like, oh, that would be cool if that existed. It's like, yeah, this guy, he's out.

Lilah (54:57)

There. He's out.

Olivia (54:57)

There. What was something that Emily or Tom brought to the characters that dazzled.

Emily Henry (55:01)

You? I mean, I'm like. I don't even know how to talk about them still. I've been asked this question so many times. I'm like, I don't know how. Like, dazzle is the right word. Yeah. I mean, I already knew that Tom was incredible. I wasn't as familiar with Emily, and I just. I can't. I. There are no words for how she makes me feel. Like, every time I watch that movie, she breaks my heart. She makes me cry. Like, Tom. Also, there's a couple of scenes where Tom breaks my heart and makes me cry. I couldn't quantify what this is, but with Emily, the thing that I love is that she plays poppy in this way that's really warm and charming. And, like, even when she's being, like, a little bit of a dick. Dick. It's like, you still love her and root for her, you know? And I think that she could so easily be really annoying, that.

Adriana (55:44)

Character.

Emily Henry (55:45)

Yes. I think, like. I mean, not everyone loves. Loves her, so I don't mean annoying, but.

Adriana (55:49)

She. She was something, I think a character that somebody could have Easily made a.

Emily Henry (55:52)

Caricature. Yes. Or made her, like, a manic pixie dream girl, which was, like, my fear, too. Like, throughout the whole process, I was like, we have to keep her grounded. We have to keep her rooted. Reading all the drafts, being like, she isn't just, like. You know, it's not as simple as. Like, she just doesn't want to be tied down. It's. She's afraid. Like, she's afraid that her. Her fear of commitment is an actual fear. And I want, you know, we. We should understand why. What she thinks gonna happen. Like, why is she afraid of this? It's not like, just, you know, but, yeah, Emily, she just brings so much, like, pathos to it. And Tom, like, Tom is really funny and charming in real life. He is not Alex, like, at all. He's, like, outgoing and, like, just his energy. At the premiere, he was just, like, swaggy. Yeah, I know. I know. You see him walk in, and you're like, he's wearing a bunch of rings. And you're like, this is not.

Olivia (56:36)

Ever. I know.

Emily Henry (56:39)

Yeah. You're like. But then you can put him in khakis and, like, kind of brush his bangs down, and you're like, okay. I guess he's a.

Adriana (56:44)

Nerd. Method.

Emily Henry (56:46)

Actor. Yeah, method.

Adriana (56:47)

Actor. I.

Emily Henry (56:48)

Wonder. I wonder if he. How long he was brushing, if he was doing that on his off days. I'll have to find out. But, yeah, I mean, they're phenomenal. I think, like, their dynamic together is really what made them perfect. It's, like, the fact that neither of them seems like they could both. Like, he could be a wet blanket, and she could just be really annoying, and instead, you can really sense that they are delighted by each other. Everything that happens between them. It's like when he does finally make a joke. I don't know if you remember the diner scene where he finally makes a joke, does it so deadpan, and, like, this laugh leaps out of her. And I remember that moment from their chemistry.

Adriana (57:20)

Read.

Emily Henry (57:20)

Really? Yeah. Which was just over zoom. And I'm, like, getting chills. Yes. Oh, my God, you are. I'm getting.

Lilah (57:24)

Chills. Zooming on the.

Emily Henry (57:25)

Legs. Yeah, get in on the legs. Not the.

Adriana (57:26)

Feet. Not the.

Emily Henry (57:27)

Feet. Where are the feet? But seeing that moment in the chemistry read, which was slightly different. Like, the scene as they did.

Adriana (57:31)

It.

Emily Henry (57:31)

But. But that was when I was like, oh, they're perfect. Because it was the first joke that his character got to make, and she just, like, has this Julia Roberts hand in the jewelry box. Pretty woman laugh. Jump out of her. And then you can tell he's like, delighted by it too. So they're performing for each other a little bit. And it's so cute and charming.

Adriana (57:49)

And I love them and it's real. And she was just. I thought I was gonna lose her. I thought she was gonna pass out from giggles during the camping.

Emily Henry (57:56)

Scene. Oh, my gosh. Wasn't that so funny.

Adriana (57:58)

Too? That was.

Emily Henry (57:58)

Brilliant. I also wants you to know, Tom specially, like, he told Brett that he thought it was important that we saw Alex's.

Adriana (58:04)

Bum. Yeah, good. I'm glad he said.

Olivia (58:06)

That. Doing God's word.

Emily Henry (58:06)

He's. Yeah, he was like, it's showing that he's loosening up. Like, he had, like a reason behind it. It wasn't just like, for, like, he didn't want to show his body. He's like, I think you should see my butt for story reasons. Yeah. So I love that he was game for that. Also, those waves that night were psychotically.

Olivia (58:23)

Large. They looked a little.

Emily Henry (58:24)

Dangerous. It was freezing cold. They had like, the poor stand ins were like in wetsuits and they'd get into the water and like with the. So they were setting up the lighting and everything and then get out and. Yeah, the actors are very brave. Very brave. Where was that film? That was in Costa Brava, which is outside of Barcelona. I can say that because I've been there now I can say Barcelona. I still can't say Ibiza the right way because I haven't been there yet. Okay. So of.

Adriana (58:47)

Course. Yeah, don't do that. You know. Damn. I mean, I guess my only note is, as I said, it should have been way longer. I wanted to spend all the time on every single. Because when they were like, teeing it up to be like, where they were going, I was like, I want.

Emily Henry (58:59)

To be here all day.

Adriana (59:00)

I. But I was like, but from a visual format, the changes that were made to me as somebody who read the book to made so much sense. Like, and it came out so great in the end. And like.

Emily Henry (59:08)

Yeah. And I feel like I want to, like, shout out a little thing that, like, I don't know who came up with this if it started with Brett or the producers or with Yulene or Amos or Nunzio, the other writers. But there's a change for Sarah's storyline. Like, they. They made a change that like, felt kind of lateral to me where she has a different job. Like in the book, she's a. She's also a teacher. And so they. They had a different plan for her and I was like, that's fine. I don't care. It doesn't. I don't really understand the logic that I'm sure they had it. That's different. But then where she ends up in the movie is different from, like, where the book leaves her. And I love where the movie leaves her so much. And I now fully buy into the fact that, like, eventually maybe she would end up in that situation. And I thought Sarah Catherine Hook was like, I mean, she's incredible. And there's so much footage, obviously, that doesn't get used for the movie, but, like, she did such a good job, too, making her. Like, she's not. She could so easily just be, like, the yin to Poppy's yang, where it's like, look how different they are. And instead, it's like, she's a little bit more complicated than.

Adriana (60:03)

That.

Emily Henry (60:04)

Yeah. And that was one of my favorite changes, was, like, the story arc that they gave her. Oh, that's.

Adriana (60:09)

Awesome. That's good to.

Emily Henry (60:10)

Hear.

Adriana (60:10)

Yeah. What do you picture for Poppy and Alex five years down the.

Emily Henry (60:13)

Line? Well, you know what? I'm like, I would have thought that they would maybe just be New York lifers, and maybe it's just because I'm getting older, but I'm like, maybe they do end up somewhere a little bit chiller. Like, still not Linfield. She's not going back.

Adriana (60:24)

There. She's not going to.

Emily Henry (60:25)

Linfield. Let it go.

Lilah (60:27)

Linfield. Yeah. Stop trying to make Linfield.

Emily Henry (60:30)

Happen. Yeah, it is not happening. But maybe like a different. Maybe like a chiller city. I don't know what that would.

Adriana (60:35)

Be. I don't.

Emily Henry (60:36)

Know. I think they're on.

Adriana (60:37)

Vac.

Emily Henry (60:37)

Yeah.

Olivia (60:38)

Yeah.

Emily Henry (60:38)

Vancouver. Alex, they're shooting Vancouver for New York. So they're in Vancouver. No. I don't know. I mean, I definitely think they're still taking their trips once a year, but I definitely think they're a little bit more rooted than they are. Than they are where we leave them. And they're still in a city, but maybe not as, you know, big of a city. I don't know. I love that. And then they have their dog.

Adriana (60:58)

And they got the.

Emily Henry (60:59)

Dog. They got their dog. Maybe. Honestly, maybe one or two more. I love it because that's the thing in the book where Poppy doesn't want to get a dog because she's like, I think if I got one, I would have. Yeah, she's gone all the time. And, like, she's like. And if I did, I would have.

Adriana (61:09)

12. Right.

Olivia (61:10)

Right. So I'm maybe land on.

Lilah (61:11)

Three.

Emily Henry (61:11)

Yeah. Or you know what? I bet they get a cat. Alex wants a cat. I bet they get a cat's a cat. Get along with their dog. He's a cat man. For sure. Yeah, we.

Adriana (61:18)

Yeah. Oh, I love that. Well, we are going to transition us over into our book nook really quick because we don't have much more time with you. We are really big readers in this family, obviously. What are you currently.

Emily Henry (61:29)

Reading? Okay. I am on this kick where I'm rereading all of this historical romance that I.

Lilah (61:35)

Love. Tell.

Emily Henry (61:35)

Us. Yeah, I have like a thousand books I should be reading where I'm like, these are new releases and, like, I'm excited about and all that. Okay, so the first author. Every year, I pretty much reread all of Sherry Thomas historical romance novels. They're so good. If you haven't read them, start with the Luckiest lady in.

Adriana (61:50)

London.

Emily Henry (61:50)

Okay. Yeah, she's incredible. And you'll read them in two hours. You'll be like, okay, now I need more. And then you won't be able to tell people about them because you will have read them back to back to back. And you're like, I don't know what happened. I know. I had a great.

Adriana (62:01)

Time. I had a good.

Emily Henry (62:03)

Time. I had a great time. So reread all of those. And then I reread some Lisa Clips Clapis books. I reread some Julie Ann Long books. That has kind of been the space that I've been living in. I have been shouting out. There's a bit of time until this comes out, but a book that I think you guys will all love, that will come out next year called Bad Words by Rihanna Robinson. It is written by a longtime friend of mine. We've been publishing together for years. But this is her first book for adults. And it is amazing. And I'm gonna pitch it to you guys right now. Please do. It is a true enemies to lovers in the way that very few things actually.

Lilah (62:39)

Are.

Emily Henry (62:40)

Okay. Yes. Okay, so I'm getting chills again. It's so good. Okay, so this book, the premise is there is this fancy debut novelist and he sells this book for like a million dollars. And he's getting all this press, whatever. Right before the book comes out, this, like, very infamous harsh critic gets assigned his book to review it. She bashes it. The book comes out in tanks. And then he's a joke. So this is before the book. So like. So then for like a couple of years, he's like, I need to get back to writing. But, like, how am I ever gonna write again? Whatever. How do you show your face at the start of the book? He has just. His second book is finally about to come out. And, like, the book basically starts with him, like, getting home. I mean, I don't know if the final version will start this, but it basically starts around the time where he basically gets home and his roommate is like, don't look at your phone. And it turns out she has been assigned his second book and reviewed it again and absolutely bashed it again. And so that night, he goes to this publishing party with some friends. He's like, obviously doesn't want to be there. Is. Isn't in a good mood. He sees her there. He's like, ugh, this is horrible. He goes to leave later in the night, and he walks past this room, and she's alone in this room, and he's like. Something comes over him. He's like, the nicest nice boy in the world. Something comes over him, and he goes in, and he basically lays into her and is like, you know, you. You think that you could write a book? Like, whatever. Like, they just are, like, they have this incredible argument. And then meanwhile, someone sees it happening. And this is at a publishing party where everybody's, like, drinking and, like, they love gossip and whatever. So somebody starts filming it and posts it. So he goes viral. So it's like, a little bit about the Internet and, like, the waves of backlash, because at first everyone's like, yeah, get her. Selena Chan is the meanest critic. Whatever. And then it's like, wait, actually, you shouldn't have cost a critic. And so it's like, all this is going on, and then meanwhile, these two people are gonna fall in.

Olivia (64:28)

Love. I'm.

Lilah (64:30)

Worried. I don't know how you.

Olivia (64:31)

Should.

Emily Henry (64:33)

Seriously. Enemy right there. I know. It is so good. I, like, seriously, my leg hair is one inch.

Adriana (64:38)

Long. I shaved my leg coming here. I.

Emily Henry (64:41)

Swear. Yeah, I really did. That's.

Adriana (64:42)

Awesome. She saw us some early ones. I'm trying to.

Emily Henry (64:45)

Read. I'm sure she. I'm sure she would. I think that the advanced copies. It doesn't have a cover yet, but I think that the advanced copies. No, but. But they're. You know, the advanced copies exist, and I think you would love it. It's really romantic. It's really sexy. And. Yeah, it's like, to take someone from a true place of actual enemies, like, who have, like, wronged each other and different ways and then make you fully buy into this love story, it's like. It's like a I. My blurb on the COVID is how I genuinely feel is it's a once in a lifetime book. Like, I will never. I will be like, I'm never going to read another book. Like, that's so.

Lilah (65:15)

Good. I'll.

Emily Henry (65:16)

Blurb. Yeah, yeah, we'll get it to you. You're going to love it. You're going to love.

Adriana (65:20)

It. We're going to get.

Emily Henry (65:20)

Blurbed.

Adriana (65:20)

Yeah. Well, that's good. We're going to keep our eye out for that then. What a heck. That was a perfect end to the book.

Emily Henry (65:25)

Nook. Yeah. I love it. We did.

Lilah (65:26)

It. Emily, you're a part of the family now, so you have to help us out with a little bit of chores. You can either do the laundry, dishes, or. Or.

Emily Henry (65:32)

Vacuuming.

Lilah (65:33)

Vacuuming. Oh, okay. No, you're really clear on that. I love a good one. You have a good vacuum. Oh, is it.

Emily Henry (65:41)

Satisfying? Vacuuming is the only satisfying.

Olivia (65:43)

Chore. I.

Emily Henry (65:44)

Agree. Cause you see it like in real time. And like, I mean, dusting is hard. Cause you have to move.

Adriana (65:47)

Stuff.

Lilah (65:48)

Right? You are going to read the last note in your notes app. Oh.

Emily Henry (65:51)

Oh. Oh my gosh. Let's see. What if it's like password to bank? Yeah, right.

Lilah (65:55)

Right. Social Security.

Adriana (65:57)

Number. My people I hate the.

Emily Henry (66:00)

Most. Uh. Oh, wait, you guys. I can't read this one because it's premise for my next book. I literally can't read.

Lilah (66:07)

It. That'd be so exciting. Can you the phone.

Emily Henry (66:09)

Around? Okay, hold.

Olivia (66:11)

On. Oh, my.

Lilah (66:13)

God. Do you just have ideas and you just write them.

Emily Henry (66:14)

Down? Yeah, yeah. That's how I. Yeah, I like until I. So I like until I start writing the book, I'll only just jot little things down in my phone. There's like this weird superstition and so once I'm like, I have a couple of scenes in my head and like, I've written down a couple of jokes and then I go, I have the premise for this, but I don't have.

Lilah (66:29)

The. Do they fall in.

Emily Henry (66:30)

Love? I think they might. Well, yeah, that's. You know what? That's that they're going to fall in love, but you might not know who. Who they're. Who's going to fall in love or.

Lilah (66:38)

Why. There you.

Adriana (66:39)

Go. If I was like, seize.

Emily Henry (66:40)

Her. Yes. Somebody just tackles.

Adriana (66:43)

Me. That's.

Emily Henry (66:44)

All. Let me see what I've got. Wait, let me see if there's another. And then the next one is like a bunch of titles. Wait, hold.

Lilah (66:48)

On. That's some good stuff in the.

Adriana (66:51)

Phone. Good stuff in that notes Very valuable. You're really good at.

Olivia (66:54)

Giving. Yeah, you've got to work on how you pronounce vacuuming, by the.

Emily Henry (66:57)

Way. How do you. You say it? Vap.

Adriana (66:59)

Vacuuming. I say vap cuming. And I have vacuuming my whole life. I've said it. And these two only recently caught me. And she catches me all the time vacuuming. I don't know. I throw peas in.

Emily Henry (67:07)

There. Okay. I. I have a friend who says.

Olivia (67:09)

Voluptuous.

Emily Henry (67:10)

Volum. Like.

Adriana (67:11)

An. That sounds right to.

Emily Henry (67:11)

Me.

Lilah (67:12)

Voluptuous. Not.

Emily Henry (67:14)

Voluptuous. It's voluptuous. Voluptuous. But it does, doesn't it? Okay, doesn't it sounds right? Cuz that's what we're talking about. Let's be real here.

Adriana (67:21)

Okay? Laundry.

Olivia (67:22)

Okay. Was your high school crush. You don't got to name names.

Adriana (67:25)

But give us a.

Emily Henry (67:26)

Vibe.

Adriana (67:27)

Okay? Oh, was it a jock? Was it a.

Emily Henry (67:29)

Narc? Oh, a jock wouldn't have spoken to.

Adriana (67:33)

Me.

Emily Henry (67:33)

Right. So it would have been hard to nurture that crush. I. I mean, so I had a lot of crushes. I was a woman of many crushes in high school. I will say. One of my high school boyfriends had gingivitis. Had active gingivitis. I'll say that. I won't say his name. Another one. Okay, Another one. This will. This will tell you a lot about my. My high school crush. He took me to his prom. We did not go to the same school. He took me to his prom. I didn't know anyone. And he brought glow sticks. And he left me. Just danced away with glow sticks into the crowd. And I was alone for God. It was probably five.

Olivia (68:10)

Minutes. Not your own.

Emily Henry (68:11)

School? Not at my own school. Didn't know anyone. Didn't know anyone he went to school with. Yeah, they were all just like, you know, like skateboarders and like musicians and like a little bit alt, a little bit punk. Boys love.

Adriana (68:24)

It. He was a skater boy and all.

Emily Henry (68:25)

That. He was a skater boy and he said, see you later because he danced away with the glow sticks. With his glow sticks. Actually. Wait, hold on. This is real good. Is this. Are we on? What is it? Laundry. Dirty.

Adriana (68:37)

Laundry. You were doing laundry.

Emily Henry (68:38)

There. Laundry. This is. I love this so much. So this the guy who danced away for me with glow sticks when we were in high school, he went on a family trip with me over Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving weekend. Broke up with me in a.

Lilah (68:51)

Hot tub on the trip. Two days left on the.

Emily Henry (68:54)

Trip. Two days left, we got back together. He. I think he already had another girlfriend. Is what was going on? Like, it was like I got sick right before the trip, and he just kind of disappeared for a couple days. And I was, like, texting, being like, are you still, like, coming on my family vacation? And then he did and was like, okay, good. I guess everything's fine. And you don't have a new girlfriend. And I'm pretty. I think he had another.

Olivia (69:09)

Girlfriend. He had another girlfriend, still went on the.

Emily Henry (69:11)

Trip. He went on the trip, broke up with me, and then. And then we got back. Got back together for two days. And that's one of my favorite dating. Dating stories. Obviously. It's incredible. Like, I wouldn't change a thing, obviously. That story's famous amongst my friends and.

Adriana (69:24)

Family.

Emily Henry (69:24)

Right? And my best friend lives in Chicago, and she has heard the story. We met in college, so she's heard this story forever because it was, like, the last boyfriend that I had before college. And she knew this guy's first and last name because I would tell her these stories. And I always use first and last names, except for right now. And, you know, she'd been working in this restaurant for years. This was, like, two years ago, maybe me now, whatever. She sees on her reservations the name of my high school ex boyfriend. And she was like, this is so crazy. This is my best friend's, like, childhood boyfriend, basically, who broke up with her in a hot tub. And so she's like, that is so crazy. And she's talking to her co workers, and they're like, that's. I'm gonna change the name again. I'll say Bob. Very popular name, our age, Immigrant. And they were like, that's Bob who works here. And she was like, what? And they were like, yeah, that's Bob who works in the kitchen. And she's like, bob is this. This Bob? And they're like, yeah. And so then she's like, I'm a fast asleep. And she's texting me over and over again, being like, what was like, just wanting me to confirm Bob's last name. She's like, tell me, tell me, tell me. And then, like, I have all these group texts where she's texted my friends and from my city, and she's like, tell me. And then finally, someone gets back to her, and she's freaking out. And then it turns out she, like, went around to everyone in the restaurant and was like, oh, my gosh, guess what? Bob is the one who broke up with Emily in a hot tub in high school. And they're like, we. We don't care. Really? And then Ultimately, what ended up happening? So then. So then he came into work. The next time he came into work, she came up. She was like, it's so crazy. I didn't know that you were Emily's, like, ex boyfriend. And he pretended for a while to not remember me, which I had seen him within the last five years. And he, like, said hi to me. Like, we had run into each.

Olivia (71:03)

Other. You went on a family.

Emily Henry (71:04)

Vacation? Yeah, he remembered me. He was like. He was kind of like, Emily, Emily. Emily. And then my best friend, because she is a. I guess probably because she's an Aries, was like, you know, she's like, really famous. And he was like, what? And she was like, yeah, she's a really successful author. Isn't that cool? And he was like. He said, I don't know. No. And she said.

Lilah (71:24)

No.

Emily Henry (71:24)

Jealous? I don't know. And she said, you sound jealous. He was like, I'm not jealous. And she's like, well, you sound jealous. Yeah. Then her manager pulls her aside days later, and he's like, you have to stop. You're not allowed to talk to Bob. You're not allowed to talk to anyone about Bob. Bob and his girlfriend are coming in for dinner. You're not allowed to wait on Bob. So you have. You have to move sections. And it became this whole incredible thing. And it was like, wow. Like, this is like a funny story to me. Like, you're not a villain in my life. Like, this is a funny thing that a teenage boy.

Lilah (71:51)

Did. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Emily Henry (71:51)

Right? And she's real for that. Yeah. She's.

Adriana (71:53)

So. That's a real.

Emily Henry (71:54)

Friend. I.

Adriana (71:55)

Know. She's ride or.

Emily Henry (71:56)

Dying. I know. I.

Olivia (71:57)

Know.

Emily Henry (71:57)

She. She genuinely was, like, got in.

Adriana (71:59)

Trouble. She was like. She's like, I do it.

Lilah (72:01)

Again.

Emily Henry (72:01)

Yeah. Yeah. She would not change a.

Adriana (72:02)

Thing.

Emily Henry (72:02)

Bob. Yeah, Bob.

Adriana (72:04)

Yeah. You're like, it's.

Olivia (72:04)

Funny.

Emily Henry (72:05)

Yeah. No, I'm like, I don't have any ill will against Bob, but she's like, you broke up with my best friend in a hot tub 400 years.

Lilah (72:10)

Ago in a hot.

Adriana (72:11)

Tub. Honestly, I would do the same thing. That would be so exciting for that week of work. For.

Emily Henry (72:14)

Real. Seriously. I know. I think she was buzzing. And like I said, like, bob, if you're listening, if you're. If you're a House of Mar fan, thank you for your. I don't have so few incredible dating stories, and that is one of.

Adriana (72:27)

Them. That's brilliant. That's beautiful. Yeah. We gotta let you.

Emily Henry (72:30)

Go. Yeah. I have to let you go. You didn't know you were getting a gabber too. We love.

Lilah (72:37)

It. And I like listening. That's great.

Emily Henry (72:39)

Works. I am ready to really be a permanent fixture in the.

Adriana (72:41)

Family. No, it's not my.

Olivia (72:43)

Sister. So here you.

Lilah (72:44)

Go. You're commanding that.

Adriana (72:45)

Chair. Yeah, you.

Lilah (72:46)

Really. You're sitting like me.

Emily Henry (72:47)

Now. Yeah, I am mirroring. What does that say about me? I am literally.

Adriana (72:54)

Mirroring. You're comfortable here and you should never leave. And we can just keep.

Lilah (72:57)

Talking. Perfect. Thank you so much for coming over to our house, Emily. It's been amazing to have you. We love you like a sister. But better. But better. Lila's you can find the movie people we meet on vacation on Netflix now. And you can. You can find the book in stores. Duh. Follow Emily miliehemilyparkman Emily.

Emily Henry (73:18)

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Lilah (73:19)

It. Follow emilyhenrywrites I'm.

Olivia (73:24)

Kidding. You got.

Lilah (73:25)

This. Follow emilyhenrywrithes on Instagram that took me a lot to say. Don't cut out the other parts. EmilyHenrywrites There you.

Olivia (73:34)

Go. Thanks so much for coming over to the house of Maher A Wave.

Lilah (73:37)

Original. Be sure to watch and subscribe on YouTube and listen. We're on interview at your.

Adriana (73:40)

Podcast. Plus follow the show on social media at HouseOfMar for clips and behind the scenes content. You freaks. We'll see you next time. Thanks for being.

Emily Henry (73:47)

Here. This is the.