Ilona's Big New Show & Tipsy 30th Birthday

Summary

Podcast Summary: House of Maher

Episode: Ilona's Big New Show & Tipsy 30th Birthday

Date: August 11, 2026
Host: Wave
Guests: Ilona Maher (Olympic rugby player), Olivia Maher (“Girl Dinner” creator), Adrianna “Dre Baby” Maher (human rights advocate)

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Episode Overview

This effervescent episode of House of Maher is a playful, heartfelt and reflective family hangout, celebrating Ilona's milestone 30th birthday. The Maher sisters—Ilona, Olivia, and “Noni” (Adriana)—share cake, champagne, and real talk. The conversation flows from the world of elite rugby to going viral, baby names, family history, spiritual grappling, and what it really means to turn 30. The energy is tipsy, unfiltered, and full of sisterly banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ilona’s 30th Birthday Vibes

• The sisters kick off with laughter over spilled champagne, ASMR birthday cake, and toasts to Ilona.
• Ilona is candid about feeling good in her 30s:

  “I’m actually excited to be 30. In Covid years, I still feel 24 in some ways.” (04:14)

• They poke fun at cake portions, the classic Trader Joe’s sheet cake, and Ilona’s “intuitive eating”.

2. Exciting Announcement: Ilona's New Show

• Ilona reveals a new project: “Power Hour with Alona Mar,” launching August 20th on their YouTube channel.

  “…a little bit workout and a whole lot of hangout. Power Hour with Alona Mar starts Thursday, August 20th… Hit that bell.” (06:06)

3. Wikipedia Woes and Digital Identity

• The sisters riff on wild inaccuracies in Ilona’s Wikipedia, struggles over images and public info, and the challenge of owning your digital presence.

  “I think we just got to get Olivia’s G7X, you against a wall.” (08:01) “I’m the source. Trust me. Wikipedia, she’s going to it right now.” (08:36)

4. The Baby Name Deep Dive & Generational Reflections

• Discussion pivots to research on women who have kids later (telomeres & longevity).
  • “Cool. I mean, that’s good for people, because…that’s a big point of fear for women, is waiting.” (11:06)
• Heartwarming and comical debate about family, Irish and Dutch names, pop culture influences (Hermione, Renesmee), and the uniqueness/meaning of their own names.
• Ilona reflects on reclaiming her name:

  “…In college…people asked me… your name’s too hard to say…you can call me low. So from, I would say, like, 2015 to 2024, I went by Low…And it was only until recently, like with Dancing with the Stars, where I made people call me Ilona again.” (19:00)

5. Sisterly Rapid Fire: Traditions, Adulting, Regrets

• Humorous “Try Hard” quiz reveals favorite movies (“Last Holiday”), go-to drinks (Negroni, Painkiller), and Ilona’s “warning label” (“Mood swings”).
• Most “30-year-old” decisions: buying a car, moving, upgrading to a king-size mattress.

  “Big dog, big bitch, big dog. When I’m sleeping next to somebody… I need them to be five feet away.” (29:17)

6. Reflecting on Spirituality, Religion & Upbringing

• Under the influence of both champagne and existential curiosity, the sisters openly grapple with faith and doubt.
• Noni introduces the classic "God paradox": can God be all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-loving in a world full of suffering?

  “How can an all loving and an all knowing God let so much horror and… violence happen in the world if he’s all powerful…” (33:08)

• Ilona shares her personal crisis around faith, gratitude, and the role of suffering:

  “I do like to believe in a God. I think when I think of God…somebody is loving, but is also…gave us free will. And a lot of us have chosen the wrong ways…” (34:34)

• Olivia shares a poignant definition of God from a book:

  “…To me, life is God. My life is tied to yours and to everyone else’s…we are all God; we…make up the living, like organism…” (43:11)

7. On Religious Institutions & Cultural Stories

• The sisters distinguish between personal faith and the problems of institutional religion:

  “It’s the institution that’s often not the faith…so much of our teachings are pulled straight from the Bible…translated by men. So many things have been misconstrued…” (44:25)

• Discussing lost native religions and the impact of forced conversion:

  “So much of the native religions have been wiped…because missionaries came. It was…forced, like, converting.” (48:49)

8. Connection, Loss, and Spiritual Moments

• Olivia shares a deeply personal and spiritual story of finding guitar picks after her uncle’s passing, a “sign” she feels from him.

  “Whenever I would be, like, extra sad about, like, his passing…I would randomly find guitar picks…That felt very spiritual and, like, deep to me.” (54:38)

9. Birthday Fantasy & Looking Forward

• Ilona daydreams about an extravagant birthday—“a yacht with my girls”—but values simple joys and bringing happiness to her friends.
• Concludes with a fun birthday-themed Try Hard lightning round, laughs, and loving send-offs.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Ilona’s Champagne Spill / Birthday Toasts: 01:39–04:10
• Power Hour Show Announcement: 06:06–06:32
• Wikipedia Hijinks & Digital Identity: 06:33–10:10
• Baby Names, Family Heritage, Personal Identity: 10:28–22:36
• Turning 30—Adulting Milestones: 29:17–31:04
• Personal Growth: Stepping into Power & Worth: 31:04–32:04
• Faith, the Problem of Suffering & Institutional Religion: 32:06–49:22
• Spiritual Experiences & Family Connections: 54:15–55:46
• Birthday Dreams & Rapid Fire “Try Hard” Game: 57:07–62:32
• Closing Good Vibes & Outro: 62:47–63:06

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ilona on entering her 30s:

  “I actually am excited to be 30. You know, in Covid years. I still feel 24 in some ways.” (04:14)

• On Wikipedia madness:

  “I’m the source. Trust me. Wikipedia, she’s going to it right now.” – Olivia (08:36)

• On adult upgrades:

  “I bought a king size mattress. Big dog, big bitch, big dog. When I’m sleeping next to somebody… I need them to be five feet away.” – Ilona (29:17)

• On faith and grappling with suffering:

  “If there is a God, he looks on with a lot of sadness at times when he sees what we chose to do with his son that he gave to the world… I don’t think he’s possibly all powerful because then why is that young girl being abused?” – Ilona (34:34)

• On the peace that faith can bring:

  “When I look at my friends who are very religious, they have a sense of peace to them, of, ‘no, this is all God’s plan…’” – Ilona (42:06)

• On human connection as spirituality:

  “This is why we're here, to know and experience each other. This is so cool. I love it. I'm making a connection with this person, and I think I feel very spiritual in that sense.” – Olivia (54:38)

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Tone & Style

• Warm sibling banter, candid reflections, thoughtful detours, a touch of sass; a balance of humor, vulnerability, and deep talk.
• Occasional playful irreverence towards traditions, with underlying respect for different perspectives.

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For the Listener

This episode celebrates entering a new decade with openness, honesty, and humor. The sisters offer sincere reflection on identity, family, faith, and growing up, while never losing sight of joy and connection. Whether you’re searching for a workout tip, a new perspective on faith, or just looking for a good laugh, “Ilona’s Big New Show & Tipsy 30th Birthday” is steeped in heart and realness—the magic of the House of Maher.

Transcript

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[Ilona Mar]

for any of you just listening. I've spilled champagne.

[Noni]

Oh, you pissed yourself.

[Olivia]

Alona's 30th birthday.

[Ilona Mar]

Oh my God.

[Narrator/Ad Host]

Yay.

[Ilona Mar]

Yay for my birthday. We're getting down to some business. Do you like the side boob I

[Olivia]

brought up for your birthday?

[Ilona Mar]

I'm not sure about it. I could go for more.

[Noni]

Is this where we talk about God?

[Ilona Mar]

Drop your religion in the chat, guys.

[Olivia]

Yeah, drop. Drop your God down below.

[Ilona Mar]

Welcome or welcome back to House of Mar A Wave original presented by Muscle Mouth. Blow out your candles and help yourself to whatever is in the fridge. The WI fi password is going underscore on underscore.

[Olivia]

Thank you.

[Ilona Mar]

30 all caps. Oh my God. You should know we have few house rules here.

[Olivia]

Girls are magic.

[Noni]

Reading is hot and so are you.

[Ilona Mar]

Make sure to like subscribe on YouTube because you can see how the the set we've got going on and it'll explain some things. Probably the the sounds of us chewing and drinking.

[Olivia]

The real ASMR visceral experience you're getting. We should probably put a trigger warning on this. Some people hate that sound, but it is all in honor of Alona's 30th birthday. Happy birthday, girl.

[Ilona Mar]

Well, my birthday is tomorrow.

[Olivia]

Yes, tomorrow.

[Noni]

So 29 still.

[Ilona Mar]

So I'm still 29. She's so I'm still in my 20s today.

[Olivia]

So young.

[Ilona Mar]

And my producer got me one of my favorite cakes. It's very basic, but the Trader Joe's sheet cake. Sheet cake, I think one of the best cakes in the world. It's moist as hell.

[Olivia]

It's moist.

[Ilona Mar]

I'll say that. It has a good. Can we get a close up on this? Has a good frosting to cake ratio. It almost takes corn. You don't actually have to do it.

[Olivia]

Thank you though.

[Ilona Mar]

Thanks, Brie. Brie was ready to get close up. It has a good corn. It almost like cornmeal taste.

[Olivia]

I don't know. I love that.

[Ilona Mar]

This was really lovely. This was a surprise. And then we have drinks.

[Olivia]

Mm.

[Ilona Mar]

The Veuve mimosa.

[Noni]

Christiana, you did your big one.

[Olivia]

You did your big one on this here. The clique. We're all benefiting from Alona's birthday. The clique, it pairs deliciously with our muscle milk

[Ilona Mar]

tip. If you drink, if you put your muscle in with champagne, you're getting your protein and fun.

[Noni]

No, I'm scared.

[Ilona Mar]

I'm scared, guys.

[Olivia]

So welcome to Alona's birthday party.

[Ilona Mar]

Welcome.

[Noni]

This is your 13 going on 30 year old. And as Ms. Jennifer Garner look alike. How does that feel?

[Ilona Mar]

I feel good. I'm. I'm. I actually am excited to be 30. You know, in. In Covid years. I still feel 24 in some ways. I'm sure many some people do say I look young sometimes.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

What would we say? Comment down below on YouTube if you're watching.

[Olivia]

Okay. I'm gonna give 26.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah, I was gonna say 28. That's freaked up Adrona, but I can see it. Yeah. So I'm excited. I'm just gonna keep things simple for now because I am still training this week, so.

[Narrator/Ad Host]

Right.

[Noni]

Sorry that she's grinding.

[Olivia]

She stay grinding.

[Noni]

She's downing a bullshit.

[Olivia]

I'm showing that to Trey right now. She also literally gave a John and I the smallest piece as possible.

[Ilona Mar]

And actually I've only had half and

[Olivia]

I'm kind of full. I get that it's your birthday. Shut up.

[Ilona Mar]

Shut the fuck up. That's me cosplaying Olivia recently. She won't shut the fuck up about.

[Noni]

I'm just so full.

[Olivia]

I don't do it that way.

[Noni]

We have the same amount like, same portion, and I could still go. And then she's like, I just don't know.

[Ilona Mar]

She's intuitive eating.

[Olivia]

And I'm not saying it like I'm so full. I'm saying it like I'm kind of mad I'm so full right now because

[Ilona Mar]

I want to keep eating it when

[Noni]

you do get that way.

[Ilona Mar]

And I'm like. Because she's out loud saying that she's.

[Olivia]

I need to. I need to speak into the universe to get myself to. To quit, you know, while I'm ahead.

[Noni]

Well, it's not a safe space around

[Ilona Mar]

me, but anyway, we're here to party. Like it's your birthday. So is that all about me? Yeah.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Noni]

And a little bit about God.

[Ilona Mar]

You may have noticed some workout equipment behind me on the set lately. Or maybe you got distracted looking at my beautiful face. Either way, we've been teasing something, and it's finally time to tell you. I'm about to make you sweat more than ever. Starting August 20th, we're pushing our squats lower and our standards higher. Get ready for power hour with Alona Mar. How much of that you had to drink?

[Adriana]

Jeez.

[Ilona Mar]

You'll get an inside look at my workouts. Yes, there will be plenty of close ups on my back. It's like I'm wearing this outfit. Be serious. You'll see how some of your favorite people get after, too. I'll make them answer personal questions while holding planks and see you can really keep up. It's a little bit workout and a whole lot of hangout. Power hour with Alona Mar starts Thursday, August 20th on the House of Mar YouTube channel. Hit that bell. Hit that bell.

[Olivia]

Let's get into what's going on with

[Ilona Mar]

us in the group chat. Number one,

[Noni]

this is Ilona Mars.

[Ilona Mar]

Wikipedia. I'm somebody's number one aunt.

[Olivia]

Who did that?

[Ilona Mar]

I keep changing it to that Alona in a beanie.

[Olivia]

The lighting makes your teeth look so yellow. Yeah, like, what's going on here?

[Ilona Mar]

This was from 2022?

[Olivia]

If not.

[Ilona Mar]

No, it's just 2022, but, like, early, like, February 2022.

[Olivia]

Guinness. Six nations in Italy.

[Ilona Mar]

Who's. Who's got.

[Olivia]

Who did this?

[Ilona Mar]

Who keeps changing it? You keep you, John.

[Noni]

I tried to change it before, and they tell me that, like, my VPN doesn't have access or something. And it makes me feel like I've done something wrong on Wikipedia before, but I don't think I've ever edited a

[Olivia]

page, and I'm trying as well. The thing is, like, we need to Fully own the image that we put up there. So, like, one of those, like, officially shot photos of you in your uniform. Like, we don't own, so we can' the rights to put it up there. So what? What? You know, we heard about recently or a little bit ago, Zara Larson went on chicken shop date and they talked about it because Zara was in a battle to get hers changed and she kept changing it back. And while ago, she made a video that goes, whoever keeps changing my Wikipedia, you will never win. I will change it. I will beat you every single time. She changes it all the fucking time. Until it finally got locked and it can't be changed anymore. Emelia's sister changed hers to a photo of her with a wine glass, like, at dinner. So it's like, that's the route we gotta go. We gotta own it and we' put it up there.

[Ilona Mar]

I think we just got to get

[Noni]

Olivia's G7X you against like a wall. Let's do it.

[Ilona Mar]

I feel like we have pictures like that.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Noni]

She just doesn't want to give up the rights to win.

[Olivia]

I don't want to give up the rights to it. That means, like, anybody can use it for anything. Like, I have to. I have to enter it into the public domain to put it up there. So it has to be good.

[Ilona Mar]

Anything will be better than that.

[Noni]

True. It's worth the sacrifice.

[Ilona Mar]

We put a few options of photos up there.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

For those watching at home. What could be chosen Rate and honestly, some of my other Wikipedia I don't think is correct.

[Narrator/Ad Host]

Mm.

[Ilona Mar]

Who goes in there and changes?

[Olivia]

I have gone in there and edited stuff to make it correct. And then it gets changed back and

[Noni]

it's like, you need sources.

[Ilona Mar]

I'm the source.

[Olivia]

I'm the source. Trust me. Wikipedia, she's going to it right now.

[Noni]

The sports you played wrong sometimes.

[Olivia]

Yeah, right. Like comment below. Which of these options do you guys

[Ilona Mar]

remember when they did like that? We'll get like, AI things where it's

[Olivia]

like, oh, my God.

[Ilona Mar]

Ilona was born in Wichita, Kansas. And it's like all the most. Her father's literally.

[Olivia]

That photo.

[Ilona Mar]

Yep.

[Olivia]

It's still literally there.

[Ilona Mar]

Oh, my gosh.

[Olivia]

Her father's a dentist with two brothers. And we're all like, huh.

[Ilona Mar]

And then for the nah sound. Okay, hold on. She's expressed. Yep. So that's right.

[Noni]

Anything you want to correct right now? Because this. Hey, this is now a source thing.

[Ilona Mar]

This is a source.

[Olivia]

If you have yourself put it on the record.

[Noni]

Oh, no.

[Olivia]

You get cake on your Shirt.

[Noni]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

I thought it was oil.

[Olivia]

Successful party.

[Ilona Mar]

I love. They added this. Her mother is a Dutch nurse. Her father, who has Iris, who has Irish ancestry. Okay, okay.

[Noni]

What about the Croatian?

[Olivia]

Oh, you shouldn't leave out the Italian. Croatian like that.

[Noni]

More Yugoslavian than anything, really.

[Ilona Mar]

Little League softball. I mean, I guess we can go with that. I don't know if it's so. Little League softball?

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Noni]

The Parks and Rec softball team.

[Olivia]

Yeah. Little League.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah.

[Noni]

Margaret.

[Ilona Mar]

I just think somebody could write something more.

[Olivia]

I was encouraged by her father to play rugby union.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Noni]

Any information you want them to know? Alona?

[Olivia]

Yeah. Put it out there.

[Ilona Mar]

Wow. They even have, like, my injury on here.

[Noni]

Do they have your bmi? You could say it.

[Ilona Mar]

They don't have my BMI on here. Can we add that so my Wikipedia could be better?

[Olivia]

We're on it.

[Ilona Mar]

Who's on it?

[Olivia]

We're on it. Dre.

[Ilona Mar]

On it. Are you? Every day trying to change my image.

[Noni]

It won't let me. I've already said this.

[Olivia]

I'm in there, like, swim as some artist. Asmrtist. Everyone get in there. 3, 2, 1.

[Ilona Mar]

That's delicious.

[Olivia]

All right. In girl news, research from Columbia University shows that women who have their first children in their 30s have longer telomeres compared to those who have children earlier. Telomeres are a biomarker for healthy cellular aging.

[Noni]

This is the first time I've ever heard of telomeres.

[Olivia]

Is that basically saying, like, this is peer reviewed? Is it?

[Noni]

It's Columbia University, lona.

[Olivia]

So we know how Ilona feels about a study. Sorry to bring up a study on your birthday. That's crazy. So basically, that means that you are potentially more in line to have a longer life by having kids later.

[Noni]

So mom had you guys when she was in her 20s? Yeah, did me when she was in her 30s.

[Olivia]

Oh, well, she was in her 30s for.

[Ilona Mar]

Isn't it the moms that are gonna have more telomeres?

[Noni]

That's on me. I did not understand that.

[Olivia]

You've got to put the champagne down.

[Ilona Mar]

Cool. I mean, that's good for people, because I think for you, that's a big.

[Noni]

Yeah, 30.

[Olivia]

30.

[Ilona Mar]

I think that's a big point of, like, fear for women is waiting. So, like, should we have babies now? Your wrist gets. Do your eggs dry up? Or all these, like, misconceptions about it. Yeah. I've always wanted to have kids. I've always been a lover of kids. When my aunt. My mom's best friend, our aunt had babies, I was over there, like, all the Time. I've always enjoyed kids. I think you guys. You guys like kids, but maybe not as obsessed as I was with them. So that's like, it's always on my radar. I would love to have them sooner, I guess.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

But, like, Sooner is like 32, 33. After the Olympics. That would mean I would. I would like to have a partner. Yeah. I do think women can do it. Single mom. And that might be an option for me later. But I think it would be really nice to have a partner to do it with. Yeah. And raise a baby. Hopefully in love as well. Yeah. How many years cooking, how many years

[Noni]

would you want to be with someone before you have kids with them?

[Ilona Mar]

I feel like it's so dependent. Yeah. Like, when, you know, you know, situation. I think sometimes you can. Now that I've found them, sometimes it can be a year, sometimes it can be two years, five years. I think it's all person dependent, and you can't really put a time on it. Like, if I felt like that was my person and they asked me to marry me after a year, and I felt right.

[Narrator/Ad Host]

Yeah.

[Noni]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

I don't think that there should be a time on it when, you know, you know? Exactly.

[Olivia]

And all that. Any baby names? I feel like I can't give that up. Like, I feel like those are.

[Noni]

You gotta hold that to your chest.

[Olivia]

This one is very. It's a bit more common, but I still love it. Our Oma's name is Lily. And I've always thought that that's just darling for a baby girl. So I like that one.

[Ilona Mar]

I like a basic name.

[Olivia]

Like what?

[Ilona Mar]

Well, I think I like a basic name more for boys. Like a Parker Richard. That's cute.

[Noni]

Parker, like the housekeeper is very, I would say, modern now.

[Ilona Mar]

Is it Parker? I really like the name Marika.

[Noni]

It's Dutch. But we do have an aunt with that name. Feels wrong.

[Ilona Mar]

Well, I think when you say these names, don't you have to also think what they would. How Americans would say Mary. Yeah, I know.

[Noni]

Negatory. Kiki.

[Ilona Mar]

Maybe Kaka. Mari.

[Olivia]

Mari.

[Ilona Mar]

They'd go with Marie. You have to be smart. No, I. I actually like the idea of continuing names from my family.

[Olivia]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

It's like even my mom's name, like Minika or Wilhelmina.

[Noni]

Wilhelmina's on my list.

[Ilona Mar]

Oh, in color.

[Olivia]

Willa.

[Ilona Mar]

That's beautiful. I. Or even Willie. That's kind of cute.

[Olivia]

That's cute.

[Ilona Mar]

So I. I enjoy that idea of, like, keeping on the tradition. You know, some people, celebrities who are like, rumble, honey, that's Nar Smith.

[Olivia]

That's Nar Smith.

[Ilona Mar]

That's cool. That's a apple. Different apple. Gwyneth Paltrow I'm seeing on this bl. This board saga Blade is Megan Fox and mgks.

[Olivia]

That's insane.

[Ilona Mar]

Huh?

[Olivia]

That's really.

[Ilona Mar]

Aquaman is Trish Paytas's baby like actually. Actually named Aquaman.

[Noni]

That's got to be some sort of ip. Like that's got to be tough when they grow up.

[Ilona Mar]

I got to think about it. When they grow up. Some of these names too. We were. We were just talking to, oh my goodness, our friend India, Georgie's twin sister, and she was just in India. So they would ask her, oh, what's your name? And she'd go, india. They'd be like, what do you know? I asked you what your name was,

[Olivia]

not where you are.

[Ilona Mar]

Where you are. She'd be like, India. And they'd be like, what the. What are you saying? So I think you have to be smart about that in some ways.

[Olivia]

What about naming your baby after like Romantasy characters or like anything Like, I feel like we don't see any Hermione's despite the influence, which isn't is a

[Ilona Mar]

name used in British people use that name, but I think she really took that.

[Olivia]

Yeah, yeah.

[Noni]

I would go Irish with an Irish name. I like a lot of them, but Siobhan. Siobhan.

[Ilona Mar]

It's also tough though, because you can't do a name where you know somebody.

[Noni]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

Like I know. I think of so many people like, oh no, didn't like that kid.

[Olivia]

You see those Tick tock videos that girls make where they find out that their ex boyfriend who is with a new girl and has a baby and his name, the baby after them has used their name for their baby. I'm like, yikes.

[Ilona Mar]

Is it some name like Ally, though?

[Olivia]

Yeah, but still, you don't need someone named Ali for the longest time.

[Ilona Mar]

What if his wife really liked it all about you, sweetie. No, he probably forgot about you.

[Olivia]

It is the world I'm living in. I'll tell you what. Like, would you name your kid Feyre?

[Noni]

No, there's going to be 5,000 of those. And that's just so of the time, you know Lucian.

[Olivia]

You had a friend named Baby Lucian's Lucian? Are they a fan of. Of Court of Thorns and Roses?

[Ilona Mar]

I think there's more to that. I think it might be something else, like a Catholic name.

[Olivia]

Is it a biblical name?

[Noni]

It must be some sort of Christian Lucian.

[Ilona Mar]

I don't know what I Heard it, too, because I'm so much in romanticity. I'll have to see if she's actually read those books. Yeah, because I think once you've read those books, I don't know if she would have named her baby Lucian.

[Olivia]

He's not a bad dude.

[Ilona Mar]

Cute baby, though. No, it's not a bad name. It's that I only character. No, he's a great character, but I only associate that name with that character now.

[Olivia]

Yeah, same. Well, so when I learned the baby name, I was like, hello, the guy

[Ilona Mar]

from Court of Roses.

[Olivia]

Whoa, whoa.

[Ilona Mar]

Should we mix people's names? Renesmee.

[Noni]

No, no, enough.

[Ilona Mar]

I also. Our aunt's name is Annelane. That's a pretty name.

[Noni]

It is. Well, her real name.

[Ilona Mar]

That's her call name, though. There's a what name to crawl names like Minika. Oh, well, I would just do Annalayan as the name.

[Noni]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

And then you can call them Lainey. That's a cute name.

[Olivia]

That's cute. Lainey.

[Ilona Mar]

Or just Layne.

[Olivia]

She can get a fabulous country career started off of that. Lainey.

[Ilona Mar]

What other names you have in our family? We could go with very Anouk. Anouk.

[Olivia]

Anouk.

[Noni]

Really chewing on that.

[Ilona Mar]

Why'd you say like that? Anouk.

[Olivia]

Anouk.

[Noni]

I do love my middle names. Frederica and Johanna.

[Olivia]

I could do that.

[Ilona Mar]

I've thought about Frederica, but whenever I say to people, they think that's weird.

[Noni]

Why you do Frederica?

[Olivia]

Adriana's touched.

[Ilona Mar]

I would do it whenever I say to people, they think it's. They're not sure about it. And then I would call her.

[Noni]

You know what?

[Ilona Mar]

I don't know if we can keep this in. That's my baby name.

[Olivia]

Keep that. Cut that. Bleep it.

[Noni]

I do. Like, I feel like we all just have got such good middle names. A lot of inspo in there.

[Olivia]

Yeah, it's true.

[Ilona Mar]

Olivia. Gemma. Your name was going to be Gema, but it's spelled G E M M A. And so my mom says Hema, but in America, she'd be Gemma, and my mom did not like that. So they said, let's go with the really cool name that nobody's gonna have. It's gonna be really, like. It's gonna be hip, and they need no. What name is this year? Olivia.

[Olivia]

1994.

[Ilona Mar]

And they said, let's go with Olivia. Nobody's gonna have this name.

[Olivia]

Girl in Vermont. Like, at one point, it was like, the fifth most.

[Ilona Mar]

There's actually a girl we know in Vermont who's Olivia Mar.

[Olivia]

Spelling the last name different pronunciation.

[Ilona Mar]

Mar. Mar.

[Olivia]

Mar.

[Ilona Mar]

So crazy. Is that why you had to go with Livy Mars? Because she took Olivia?

[Olivia]

She was too young. Somebody. I mean, it's just Mar is super popular Irish name, though, too. And you know everything. So there's many Olivia Mars in the world. I looked it up at one point.

[Noni]

Mom and dad went from Olivia to Alona.

[Olivia]

What a jump, dude.

[Ilona Mar]

What do you think of that name? Ilona?

[Noni]

I love it.

[Olivia]

I think they got really clever.

[Ilona Mar]

Elona.

[Olivia]

Elona. It's so unique.

[Noni]

I get really out with the name Draw.

[Olivia]

I will say mom and dad did their big one with that one.

[Ilona Mar]

You think?

[Olivia]

Yeah. Do you ever think about, like, oh, my name's at Luna.

[Ilona Mar]

Sometimes I hear it because I say this for a minute. I think I lost control of my name. And I kind of. In college, people asked me what, Like, I remember a girl being like, your name's too hard to say. What can we call you? And I was like, oh, okay, you can call me low. And so from, I would say, like, 2015 to 2024, I went by low. So it was almost like I would. I'd always introduce myself as Alona, but you can call me Low. So, like, I wiped that. That name from existence. And it was only until recently, like with Dancing with the Stars, where I made people call me Ilona again.

[Olivia]

You reclaimed it.

[Ilona Mar]

And it was like, Was that purposeful?

[Olivia]

Were you trying to do that or it just happened?

[Ilona Mar]

I think so in some ways. I think maybe it's also, like, now that I'm in media, Low can be so just like lost Low. Whereas Ilona, you're Ilonamar. Ilona Mar.

[Noni]

If you ever became a pop star, you could just drop Margo.

[Ilona Mar]

And I was the Ilona All Caps. But I do think I. I've been calling it a reclaiming of my name because I still don't mind. Some people still call me low, and I think Low is a good sports name. I don't mind on the field or in rugby for people to call me low because it's quick. It's like, low, pass me the ball or whatever. But, yeah, it has been a point for me now to make people say my name Ilona. And for anybody asking my camera, it's Ilona Mar. You can call me Ilona. You can call me Alona. Ilona. The big thing there is the low. The owner. The owner.

[Olivia]

The big thing is the owner in everyone.

[Ilona Mar]

Like, when they do Ilana, I'm like, who's that?

[Olivia]

Elena, where are you throwing the A?

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah, there's an O there.

[Olivia]

Ona. Get it in there.

[Ilona Mar]

So I am. Sometimes I am like, whoa, I am Ilona. You're alone. And I think forgot that for a while there, I was just beautiful.

[Noni]

My Noni.

[Ilona Mar]

And to some, I am. My dad calls me Noni.

[Noni]

She got like the most nickname able name.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

What's.

[Olivia]

What does mom call you? Noni?

[Noni]

Nona. No.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah, Noni. I think she's spilling.

[Olivia]

I call her anything but.

[Ilona Mar]

And then you got your name. Audriana.

[Noni]

And I used to think it was so cool when I was younger, because I was like, no one has this name. But then the older I get, I'm like, oh, people do have this name, but they don't have double N and

[Olivia]

they don't have double N's.

[Ilona Mar]

And they.

[Adriana]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Why did they do that? For Annalaine?

[Ilona Mar]

For Tonalane?

[Noni]

No, I was named after an Adrian.

[Ilona Mar]

Adriana. I don't know.

[Noni]

But I like it. It looks right with two Ns.

[Ilona Mar]

I've got a good amount of Ilona's now, though. Like a Polish girl's named Ilona.

[Olivia]

It's a Hungarian name, right?

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Meaning the light.

[Ilona Mar]

Yes.

[Noni]

Beautiful name.

[Olivia]

Beautiful. Stunning.

[Ilona Mar]

You want to name your baby that? Don't, please. Yeah, it's not after me. Just be it like a cool name you have.

[Olivia]

Yeah, right, Right. I do think if I was named Gemma. Gemma and Americans called me Gemma, I. They could call me Jem. And that's cute.

[Noni]

You think you would be.

[Adriana]

You're not.

[Noni]

You'd be an annoying Gemma.

[Ilona Mar]

I don't see gem on you, dude.

[Olivia]

Jam.

[Ilona Mar]

I think you are Olivia.

[Olivia]

Side look again.

[Ilona Mar]

I'll side eye it. No, I don't think. I think you are Olivia.

[Olivia]

Really? Am I live Sometimes.

[Ilona Mar]

I never saw you as live until recently. And by recently, like the past four years. But to me, you're always Olivia. But now I call you Live a little more.

[Olivia]

And what is the why the change?

[Ilona Mar]

I think I hear it all around if people call you that. Live. Livey live. So that's just what I call you. But you're more Olivia.

[Olivia]

People that spell Olivia with an A, I've recently met.

[Noni]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

There's a girl on my rugby team who does that.

[Olivia]

Yep. And I went to school with an olivienne. A L I V I A Olivian. Olivia.

[Noni]

My Swedish host sister was Olivia with a W instead of a V. Huh?

[Ilona Mar]

Olivia.

[Olivia]

But it was Olivia.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah, that's how it's pronounced in Sweden.

[Noni]

Just Olivia.

[Ilona Mar]

Olivia.

[Noni]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Widowy Olivia.

[Noni]

No, I remember just saying Olivia, and that was fine.

[Olivia]

Oh, I love it. Okay. Wait. My name means okay. Olive tree or Olive. In ancient Greek mythology, the olive tree was sacred to Athena and represented wisdom and victory. And people call you Athena. So I am sacred to you and represent.

[Ilona Mar]

Whoa.

[Olivia]

That's fucking deep. 2026 has been such a big year for protein. I think I need to be upping my intake of protein.

[Noni]

Actually sometimes it is very hard though, especially when you just want to eat carbs.

[Ilona Mar]

Pasta for sure. We got to get the protein in even though our bodies are built by bread. That is why I do enjoy muscle milk. You can get 26 to 42 grams of high quality protein from real ultra filtered milk. So this is a nice way to get it in no matter what you're doing. And then you can get back to the bread.

[Olivia]

I also hear that their new formula has no artificial sweeteners, flavors or added colors.

[Noni]

And it comes in four different flavors. Chocolate, vanilla, cream, cookies and cream, and strawberries and cream. So you can pick up your favorite or try them all. I personally like the vanilla.

[Ilona Mar]

I know I'm basic too. I like vanilla or chocolate.

[Olivia]

I'm a chocolate girly all the way. But the cookies and cream is turning my head a bit.

[Ilona Mar]

I will say it's perfect when you're on the go and need something quick.

[Olivia]

Try the new great tasting Muscle Milk today. Available in stores nationwide.

[Ilona Mar]

Muscle Milk.

[Noni]

Protein for all. Protein for us.

[Olivia]

Okay, pause. You both know the drill by now. What's the latest thing you started listening to and immediately got way too invested in?

[Noni]

I recently got back into NPR up first.

[Olivia]

See, that's exactly why I've been reaching for my JBL Live headphones lately. When I'm listening to something that's actually good, I want to hear every little detail.

[Noni]

Because once I'm in, I'm in.

[Ilona Mar]

And if something ends on a cliffhanger, my whole day is suddenly about it.

[Noni]

She's locked in. If you love getting completely pulled into an audiobook or podcast, the JBL Live headphones are such a good pick because they have that bold unfiltered sound.

[Olivia]

And the true Adaptive Noise Cancellation 2.0 is so amazing because it makes real time adjustments so I can decide just how checked out from the chaos I want to be. They're perfect for zipping around the city or just doing chores in my apartment.

[Ilona Mar]

And the up to 80 hour battery life is kind of insane. Perfect for how much I've been traveling. I do not need my battery giving out right when the story starts heating up. That would suck.

[Olivia]

Whether you're listening on a flight or on your commute or just trying to have a little moment to yourself, they make everything feel way more immersive.

[Noni]

So if you're ready to hear every story of the way it was meant to sound, throw on a pair of JBL Live headphones and lead into your own original sound with a range of

[Ilona Mar]

colors to match your vibe. Find your [e-mail] I feel like I'm

[Noni]

always super dehydrated after a workout. Like I need more than just water.

[Ilona Mar]

Dre, trust that I know exactly what you're saying. That's why I always carry Liquid IV with me in every bag. Just one stick of liquid IV and 16 ounces of water is more hydrating than water alone. Perfect for after a nice workout.

[Olivia]

And you know I keep some stashed in my purse. Dehydration is not going to get me

[Noni]

today in your car.

[Olivia]

I do.

[Noni]

You got to kind of pack rat it.

[Olivia]

It's everywhere. I'm going with a little Ring Pop Sugar Free Cherry. Yeah. I'm serious about every last drop. Okay.

[Noni]

You ever licked the inside of a package?

[Ilona Mar]

No.

[Olivia]

Oh, have you freak?

[Ilona Mar]

It's fresh.

[Noni]

I love how easy it is to use. You can literally take it anywhere. For some on the go hydration, Liquid

[Ilona Mar]

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[Olivia]

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[Noni]

And there are so many refreshing flavors. I'm a huge fan of the firecracker flavor.

[Ilona Mar]

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[Noni]

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[Adriana]

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[Narrator/Ad Host]

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[Olivia]

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[Ilona Mar]

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[Olivia]

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[Noni]

Of course, Jason. It's in the name Sam's Club.

[Olivia]

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[Ilona Mar]

Olivia. That's not bad, dude.

[Olivia]

Thank you. I've only been running too. I haven't even been working out my stuff.

[Ilona Mar]

I was thinking yesterday or no. Recently about your pull up goal. I don't know if you're gonna hit it because you're not working out at all.

[Olivia]

No, I'm not working upper body at all.

[Ilona Mar]

Just running.

[Olivia]

I'm convinced I could just get up there and do it. Like one of these days I'm just gonna get on there, I'm gonna grab that bar and I'm gonna be like. Because the trick is to pretend you're breaking it and I'm gonna get up there.

[Ilona Mar]

You're not.

[Olivia]

I think so.

[Ilona Mar]

Who told you this trick?

[Olivia]

The Internet.

[Noni]

No.

[Olivia]

Shut up.

[Ilona Mar]

Okay.

[Olivia]

Because you like the side boob I brought up for your birthday.

[Noni]

It's kind of taking.

[Ilona Mar]

It's kind of going into the. I'm not sure about it. I could go for more.

[Olivia]

Oh, well, it's tasteful. Feel like I could wear this on a date.

[Ilona Mar]

No.

[Olivia]

Or is it too much?

[Noni]

Maybe we should get some like boob tape first.

[Olivia]

Why?

[Noni]

It's like just. It's an interesting placement.

[Olivia]

Anyway, I love it. Anyway. What's the most 30 year old thing you've done recently? Queen.

[Noni]

If you don't claim it, you don't claim it.

[Ilona Mar]

I've bought a car and moved into a new apartment and bought a king size mattress. I bought a king size mattress. Big dog, big bitch, big dog. When I'm sleeping next to somebody and it's time for night night, I need them to be five feet away.

[Olivia]

You don't cuddle you don't cuddle. You're kidding.

[Ilona Mar]

I need to get my eight hours in.

[Olivia]

You don't want to be like tucked into someone.

[Ilona Mar]

Oh, I'm. But you know, I'm a mover. When I. When I sleep, I'm moving. She's a mover. I move a shaker. I need you to get to your own side. Speaking prophecies, I. I'll cuddle for a little bit and then they'll fall asleep and I'll be like, I gotta get out of here. So these arms are in prison. But then I saw something. I think it was Matthew McConaughey who was like, my marriage lasts because I gotta have a queen size bed and we can never just be apart. I don't know. So then that made me think.

[Noni]

But I think you can live your truth. And if it's a king mattress, it's king mattress. Noni.

[Ilona Mar]

It is because you have a king mattress. Which works out because when I honestly will mostly have you guys sleeping in the bed too. So I won't have that many come visit.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Ilona Mar]

It's more YouTube anyway.

[Olivia]

So I gotta say, king size badger, king size mattress is a life hack. If you live alone because you sleep on one side and of in a typical bed where you would like change the sheets, you then switch and you start sleeping on the other side. You have a perfectly clean other side of the bed.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah. When she's feeling a little lazy.

[Olivia]

Is that gross?

[Noni]

Just doesn't feel like you. It's not indicative of your shoe.

[Ilona Mar]

She didn't like it. I don't think you like sleeping on that side that you don't normally.

[Adriana]

I don't.

[Olivia]

But I do it now for convenience.

[Ilona Mar]

So when. How often should we be cleaning our sheets?

[Olivia]

I think like every two weeks.

[Noni]

Two weeks. I'm not doing that. I gotta lug it all downstairs and

[Ilona Mar]

pay like that is tough.

[Noni]

Six bucks to wash them.

[Ilona Mar]

I'm good, right?

[Olivia]

What did 20 year old Alona completely misunderstand?

[Ilona Mar]

This is tough because when I answer questions, sometimes I like people to answer for me.

[Noni]

What?

[Ilona Mar]

What did 20 something Alona. What? What do you think?

[Olivia]

I think your power in a space, you hadn't fully stepped into it by any means. And I think as someone who knew how fabulous you were, watching you not do that was painful. Was like, she is everything to me, but she doesn't fill a space yet the way that she should be. And then you figured it out and now you do. But I think at 20. Yeah. You did not understand that.

[Ilona Mar]

Well, yeah, that's Probably. Huh. Anything else like this is not in my twenties as my twenty year old self. I think that was a good one. I think that I'm still realizing my own beauty and my own, like, worth and sometimes I still am unsure of it in many ways. So I hope 30s is more of a. Oh, I am that I do deserve that love or I do deserve that attraction, whatnot. I love that.

[Noni]

What's one opinion you've done a 180 on?

[Ilona Mar]

Do you know,

[Noni]

is this where we

[Olivia]

talk about the God?

[Ilona Mar]

Sure. What was your God thing? And John, I want to bring up a God thing.

[Noni]

I'm thinking about God recently.

[Adriana]

Careful.

[Ilona Mar]

Whoa.

[Noni]

You're just gonna go over the gene?

[Ilona Mar]

Well, I tried to catch it, so it wasn't on the carpet. Well, the carpet performs for any of you just listening. I've spilled champagne.

[Noni]

Okay. And I just don't.

[Olivia]

Give me that much then.

[Ilona Mar]

Careful, that side boob. We're gonna have a nipple showing soon. Dude, that's impressive.

[Noni]

Yeah, there was no easier way to do that. Sorry.

[Ilona Mar]

Dang.

[Narrator/Ad Host]

I really.

[Noni]

Oh, you pissed yourself.

[Olivia]

A big pissed girl on her birthday.

[Noni]

All right. God. I saw this thing online and it's already like been something I've been thinking about for a while. Just like I've. Anyway, it was this thing, it was basically like different toggles and it was.

[Ilona Mar]

There's three of them.

[Noni]

One was all powerful, one was all knowing, all loving.

[Ilona Mar]

Okay.

[Noni]

And how you can't have all three in one because. Yeah, because one is always going to be clicked off for it to make sense. Because that's what you hear is that God is all powerful, all loving and all knowing. But how can an all loving and an all knowing God let so much horror and like sadness and sickness and violence happen in the world if he's all power, if they're all powerful, you know, it does not kind of go. It makes. It's hypocritical then, because how can you be all three? And then it's like, okay, but then it can make sense if maybe it's all powerful and all loving. They're not all knowing because then that can explain why they're not doing everything. And so that's what I've been just chewing on is like, you can't have all three at once. Because I've just been looking and like, I will say, like, I've. I think TikTok really sometimes gives me like very sad videos, like back to back. And I just see so much sadness that's in the world. And I'm like, And how can if there is a God let all this happen if God is supposedly all powerful, all knowing and all loving? If you're all powerful and all loving, do something right. And I don't know. So that's my thing is I'm struggling with those three right now. What's your thing, Nonie?

[Ilona Mar]

My thing has been recently, in very similar vein to yours, of. Again, not understanding if God is somebody who can control so much and do so much, why he would let so much suffering happen. We were raised Catholic. I think in many ways I. I do like to believe in a God. I think when I think of God, though, feels very weird to talk about this with this on. Yeah, you take it off. I think when I think of God, though, I think of somebody is loving, but is also gave us free will. And a lot of us have chosen the wrong ways to use that free will. And I think if there is a God, he looks on with a lot of sadness at times when he sees what we chose to do with his son that he gave to the world, if that is what happened. And I think he looks on with love, and there's so much love in moments, but also with, like, sadness. I don't think he's possibly all powerful because then why is that young girl being abused? Why is that man on the street homeless? Why was I born here and given all the opportunities, whereas that girl in Afghanistan is losing her right to education, to sports just because of where she was born. I have a friend whose mom is sick and a healthy, beautiful woman who is sick and on her deathbed. Why? I was asking mom about it. I was asking mom, like, you know, because I was having a little bit of a crisis. What, you know, mom, like, what? Why does God do this? Why is he like, does he choose some. Does he choose not. She said, it's not one thing. I think that a lot of people maybe in religion say it's not for us to question. And I thought that was interesting for her to say it's not for us to question. And I think that's how a lot of people go about it in their life. I've never fully understand why when people win a medal or when people win a race, they say, all glory to God. And God got this for me. And I said, you know, you think that, that God did that for you, and it was just him. So why did he choose you? Why did he choose the millionaire with 500 subscribers or 500 followers, 500,000 followers, who already has a name, who doesn't even Work as hard as this kid who this. Winning this race would have changed his life for the better. His family's in poverty and this life could have changed this race, could have changed it. So why do you think he chose you out of all. So I think I'm still trying to figure out who God is to me. If he is there, what does that mean for me?

[Noni]

Yeah, I think you said that beautifully.

[Olivia]

No, dude, I'm crying. The empath in me can't deal right now. That was so beautifully said.

[Ilona Mar]

I think when I see in people's Instagram bio sometimes God fearing, I think God fearing.

[Noni]

I think it should be God loving

[Ilona Mar]

then or God loving. I don't. I don't see him if he is alive and I'm still grappling with that. He's a man to be feared. Man. I kind of see him as a man entity. I don't see him as a man to be feared.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

I think him. I see him as a man who loves us, but we have done him wrong in some ways and he gave us this opportunity and we've spoiled in some ways anyway. No, I think that's deep.

[Olivia]

And it makes me wonder, like, because we are obviously raised Catholic. We were raised with religion.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

And. And when some people then turn deeper into it, we kind of were like some of this, I don't know if it's necessarily for us while still having the teachings and like the background in it. But then everything you're saying also makes me not understand. But also people then for the exact same questions you're posing that. The exact same questions that you're posing, I think then are why people are drawn then further to God. To be like, well, then there still must be a reason, though.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

And we. Who are we to try to understand what it is. And that's what draws them in closer.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

You know, I actually.

[Ilona Mar]

I think that having religion is so cool. And I think a lot of people do need it.

[Olivia]

Definitely believe in.

[Ilona Mar]

It gives people something to believe in.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

And it gives them understanding that this is happening.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

I think we're in a place of privilege where maybe for somebody who's not in a as good a place like this is what's supposed to happen. It gives them a reason, like, no, no, it's okay. I might not have the money or this or that, but there's a reason for this. Whereas us, we maybe have the opportunity to question more.

[Olivia]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Noni]

I'm often jealous of my friends who are religious and just how secure they are and their beliefs And I don't think maybe when I was younger I was secure, but I think it's because I, you know, my world was small. And so I think I started rejecting religion at a very young age. Things weren't making a lot of sense to me. I also transparently didn't enjoy the going to church. Yeah, right. But what you said alone about who are we to question God in that conversation, I'm like, I think that's the point.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah.

[Noni]

Of it's not blind faith.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah.

[Noni]

You know, I think that it is to be religious. It has to be like almost a relationship of what is purpose and what is, you know, your guidance.

[Olivia]

And people want to believe it's all for a reason, you know, so they put that belief in an entity to explain the why. Why are we here? Why are you in this position? Why this? Why that they want to put their faith somewhere? Because it's all confusing to be alive and to be experiencing through the lenses that we have.

[Noni]

I think some religion is. But I. I personally don't believe that is 100% healthy.

[Ilona Mar]

No, I don't think so either. I do. When mom said that, I was like, hmm.

[Olivia]

I remember the teaching. I remember literally being in religious class in religion class in, you know, elementary school, and it was the teaching of when Jesus came back and they didn't believe it and they wanted to touch the holes in his hands. And he was like, I shouldn't have. You shouldn't have to feel it to believe. Like, you should just believe. And I remember then being like, ah. Like I'd want to feel it, you know, and then I could believe it. That's amazing. But, like, the teaching of that, I think maybe I'm getting it wrong all these years later, was you to believe in God's love and God's power. You don't need to see it to believe it. You need to just believe it. And I was always kind of like, okay, okay. Like that kind of deal.

[Ilona Mar]

So that's interesting perspective where the people who need to touch the wounds would need to have touched the.

[Olivia]

The hole.

[Ilona Mar]

And then if we touched it, I think it would have been like, oh, my gosh.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Ilona Mar]

But science tells us. Or I don't know if it's science. If it's like human lived experience, it says, well, wow, he just. He just rose from the dead.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

Wait a second.

[Noni]

That's.

[Olivia]

That's incredible.

[Ilona Mar]

I want to believe.

[Olivia]

I want to.

[Ilona Mar]

But like, yeah, I just gotta check. Yeah.

[Olivia]

And the whole teaching was like, no, no, no, it's bad if you want to check. You should just believe.

[Ilona Mar]

But so I think what you're into is. There's also. It's so cool. There's some people who just. He's back. I don't need to touch the wounds. I'm good. So I think there's, like, positives and negatives to all side. When I look at my friends who are very religious, they have a sense of peace to them, of, no, this is all God's plan.

[Noni]

Got me.

[Ilona Mar]

God's got me. And I see that kind of taking that off their shoulders. I do see the. The appeal to that, but I think it maybe. Does it also take away from you seeing the other parts of the world.

[Olivia]

It does you a bit of an injustice.

[Ilona Mar]

I think he's got you. What about the others? Yeah.

[Olivia]

Oh, how nice for you. Like, let's question a bit more, guys. I feel like we do circle back to religion a lot of times on the show sometimes, and I wonder if people think that, like, we're, like, secretly super religious or something. But I think we just look at it from a very inquisitive, intellectual lens of having grown up with it. And there's people in our lives that are still religious, and we've seen the effects, positive and negative, but people want to believe in something and wonder why they're here. Why are we here?

[Noni]

I think it's part of being human, and I think part of being human. We're probably always gonna have these questions. Yeah. You know, I don't think that any of us is gonna, like, well, I don't want to speak in absolutes, but, like, I think I'll be questioning for my entire life.

[Narrator/Ad Host]

Right.

[Olivia]

And I'm going to bring it up again. I've said it on this. On this podcast before in the book atmosphere. It's about scientists, like NASA scientists. And she explains religion in the most unreal way. The trees need our breath, and our breath needs the trees. As scientists, we call that symbiosis. But the natural consequences of our connections to each other, that's God. To me, life is God.

[Ilona Mar]

Hello.

[Olivia]

My life is tied to yours and to everyone else's on this planet. Like, we are all God. Like, we, like, we make up the living, like, organism that is like, so

[Ilona Mar]

two can be true science and.

[Olivia]

Yeah, science and religion.

[Ilona Mar]

We are.

[Noni]

You guys, alona for my birthday.

[Ilona Mar]

We're getting down to some business. You gave us a little champagne and

[Olivia]

a Trader Joe's cake. We're gonna uncover the mysteries of the universe.

[Ilona Mar]

I also like how. I don't think I wouldn't say we have religious trauma, but we can look at religion in many ways. And I think some people are like, oh, religion is blah, blah, blah, blah. And I think there's some that parts of it, but I think if you can have a faith that really makes you feel good and guides you and. But you don't impress it on others. You aren't like, this is what needs to happen. Because religion has caused so many wars, all the wars, almost.

[Noni]

I want to say it's the institution that's often not the faith that is the institution, and that's where I struggle with belief. But a lot of my internal, like, anger and just qualm is with the institutions. Yeah. You know, and, like, how that has affected the world, how that has affected me, and, like, not even anything too bad for me, but just, like, you know, like, the. The quiet things growing up of, like, from the church, and so I. I just.

[Ilona Mar]

Can you explain one. No, that's okay.

[Noni]

That's okay.

[Ilona Mar]

You need more champagne.

[Olivia]

Oh, my God. You guys. I think, too, like, I think many people that are very religious are gonna. If they listen to this conversation, are gonna think it's blasphemy to speak the way that we, like, have been. But to me, we're just. We're talking about it from a very intellectual, inquisitive lens that I think an entity that created us would want us to. Don't you want us to be inquisitive? Don't you want us to think further? Not to question or to doubt, but to just, like, think for ourselves? Like, I don't know, be spiritual in a way that isn't just, I guess, the blind faith, like you're saying. I think they would want us to.

[Ilona Mar]

So I think God wants that, too.

[Olivia]

That's what I'm saying. God wants us to that entity.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah. I. I, God, Allah, whoever it is, I think they want you to get to know it better.

[Noni]

Yeah. And.

[Ilona Mar]

Oh. Oh, no.

[Olivia]

Dre.

[Ilona Mar]

Oh, boy. Oh.

[Olivia]

What's the cry? Count Andre, on this podcast? Can we get a counter on the. On the screen? No.

[Ilona Mar]

Me too. Drop your religion in the chat, guys.

[Olivia]

Yeah, drop. Drop your God down below.

[Ilona Mar]

Drop your God down below. Allah. Give me the subsection.

[Olivia]

Buddhism, Athena.

[Ilona Mar]

Good job. Yeah.

[Olivia]

Literally, like, whatever it is. And if you're Ariana Grande, God is a woman, you know, like, drop that down below for real, Period. And it's also like, sorry. I love this thing where it's like, men created religion or institutions because they couldn't bear that women create life. So they had to make a man that does that for us to worship instead of.

[Ilona Mar]

Interesting idea, Olivia. If we're going to get more into it, I actually think Mary Magdalene. And this isn't even from the Da Vinci Code, which.

[Olivia]

Love the Da Vinci Code.

[Noni]

And talk on Mary Magdalene.

[Olivia]

No, and actually talk on Mary Magdalene, please.

[Ilona Mar]

In Catholics, who. I did a big report on her. I believe that she had more of a role than she did. And again, if you've watched Da Vinci Code, there's a whole thing on it.

[Olivia]

Highly recommend.

[Ilona Mar]

Great movie. The Catholics hated that coming from.

[Olivia]

They also hated the last Harry Potter movie because he died and came back to life, so.

[Ilona Mar]

Oh, whatever. Oh, my God.

[Narrator/Ad Host]

Huge.

[Ilona Mar]

I think that there's some things that you can question, you can pull from religion. Like if it's Castle Catholicism. For me, I think I. I like some things of a Catholicism. I don't like a lot of things. Can I talk?

[Noni]

And if we're talking, so much of our teachings are pulled straight from the Bible. You got to talk about the translation of the Bible.

[Olivia]

Translated by men.

[Noni]

Translated by men. So many things have been misconstrued, and that has created so much harm. And like. Of like, a man shall not lay with another man. And the apple and the.

[Ilona Mar]

This, like, it is all like.

[Noni]

It's the language. It comes down to the language.

[Olivia]

Like you.

[Noni]

They've even translated the Odyssey wrong.

[Adriana]

Yeah.

[Noni]

You know, it's. And you can. The translator can put in their own fucking messaging that way.

[Ilona Mar]

Right, right, right.

[Noni]

And so, like, I think that's my big thing.

[Ilona Mar]

I also think we just want to

[Noni]

know why we're here.

[Olivia]

And that's why the history of religion and spiritualism is so, like, I always found so interesting, like, learning about Native Americans and how they believe in, like, this is here because of this. And we do this with a whole animal because we took from the earth. And we're gonna give back to it also all back to, like, ancient Greek. You know, why. Why is this mountain here? Oh, well, because this person did this. We want to know. We want it. We're curious. We want to know why we're here and to take comfort in something. And I love all those stories, too. Oh, the sun rises because that guy's got a chariot. You're like, hell, yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

I think that is interesting how, you know, with the Crusades and everything and spreading this one religion. A lot of religions and ideas have been lost in that way.

[Noni]

It makes me so sad, especially when we were in Mexico, of seeing how so much of the native religions have been Wiped. And people just. It's gone because missionaries came. Yeah. You know, and it was. A lot of. It was, like, forced, like, converting.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Noni]

You know, like, you must. A lot of people, you know, like, yeah, we're Christians. To save themselves. Not in a save themselves religious way. Save themselves in a physical way.

[Narrator/Ad Host]

Right.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah. You think God wanted that?

[Noni]

You think the.

[Ilona Mar]

The big man.

[Noni]

So maybe in the 30s, your 30s,

[Olivia]

you'll figure it out and keep thinking about it.

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah, maybe I join a cult.

[Olivia]

She starts one. Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

I think it's right to talk to your friends about it, I think. I have Mormon friends. A lot of Mormons play rugby. I have very Christian friends. I have Catholic friends. And I think it's something interesting to talk to about. I went on a day with a guy who's very Catholic, who still upholds a lot of the teachings, even the teachings of, like, waiting for marriage for sex. I think it's interesting to learn and, like, well, okay, so why do you do that? And what's this reason? So, yeah, the main takeaway, guys, is it's okay, I think, to question and to learn, and then that maybe by questioning, by feeling the wounds, you will get a deeper faith. Goodness me.

[Narrator/Ad Host]

God,

[Olivia]

no. I've got chills.

[Noni]

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[Ilona Mar]

All of this in the wildest thing.

[Olivia]

I don't know if it's just me, but it has been hot this summer. I'm talking capital hot.

[Noni]

It's been like heat wave after heat wave. And it absolutely sucks when it's so hot because you can't fall asleep.

[Ilona Mar]

And you know what's just as bad? Night sweats.

[Olivia]

Oh, don't I know it. I just don't sleep well when it's hot and, like, waking up sticky. It does affect me. Like, in the night, I'd be waking up feeling myself, and I do not feel rested in the morning. And I hate that.

[Ilona Mar]

Does not set yourself up for the best day.

[Olivia]

I feel so much better when I wake up at a normal temperature. I just feel so much more well rested.

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[Noni]

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[Olivia]

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[Noni]

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[Ilona Mar]

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[Ilona Mar]

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[Noni]

Sleep tight. In case you didn't know how some are on Facebook, this is true and

[Ilona Mar]

you can catch all of our highlights through reels or even full ups on the page.

[Olivia]

I love seeing our community grow on there and getting a chance to feel connected to our fans.

[Noni]

And honestly, it's such a fun way for us to share more of these little moments with you guys. Like sharing what we do even outside of this show that we love so much.

[Ilona Mar]

100%. Whether you want a quick laugh, a favorite clip, or you're ready to dive into a full episode, it's all right

[Olivia]

there and it makes it feel like we get to keep the conversation going even after the episode ends. Facebook has always been great for group chats. We are pros at that.

[Ilona Mar]

We have a Facebook group chat with our family, the big five.

[Olivia]

The big five.

[Ilona Mar]

There's five of us, three daughters, mom and dad and then we have another one with has our aunt, uncle and Alma in it called Travel Updates where we just send in landed in LA so that they know I know.

[Noni]

So if you haven't joined us over there yet, come hang with us on Facebook. Who knows what else you'll find catchy

[Ilona Mar]

in the comments on the reels, all while sharing the best moments this summer.

[Olivia]

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[Noni]

I feel like fall is always the time of year where I want to switch things up a little and refresh my routine.

[Olivia]

Okay same. And honestly, that can look different for everyone. It's really just whatever makes you feel the most like you.

[Noni]

What's something you do routinely that boosts your confidence and makes you feel like you?

[Olivia]

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[Olivia]

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[Ilona Mar]

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[Noni]

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[Olivia]

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[Noni]

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[Olivia]

No, it's really great on you.

[Ilona Mar]

I love it.

[Noni]

It's a very smooth finish. I've been keeping it in my purse ready to go. Thrive.

[Olivia]

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[Noni]

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[Olivia]

That's Thrive Cosmetics. C A U S E M E t I c s.com House what's a. Have you guys had a spiritual experience?

[Ilona Mar]

I don't know if I have spiritual experiences. I think I have these moments where, like, I'm with my family or I'm around my teammates or something like that, or I'm looking out at a view in a new place, and I realize how lucky I am to be there, how cool it is I am there, and that I have been given this life to do that.

[Olivia]

I feel it most when I make a new friend, too, and I start feeling that warm, fuzzy, like, oh, my gosh, I'm getting to know another human and I'm bonding with them. I love that. I'm like, this is why we're here, to know and experience each other. This is so cool. I love it. I'm making a connection with this person, and I think I feel very spiritual in that sense with human connection. Otherwise, like, spiritual experience. My brain goes to. We had an uncle that passed away that played guitar, and I've told you guys a story. I played guitar, and I learned to play guitar to play with him. And, like, I would. I would play it, like, on my own time. And then especially when we saw him at, like, family gatherings at Christmas or family reunions. And he passed away quite young. And from there, like, obviously it was devastating. Devastated me. Whenever I would be, like, extra sad about, like, his passing or whatever, I would randomly find guitar picks, like, anywhere I would go. Like, it was the craziest. Like, the way people say, like, oh, I saw a butterfly, and that was my grandmother, because she loved butterflies or whatever. I truly would physically find guitar picks, like, on the ground, wherever it was. Like, I was in a sushi restaurant in Killington, Vermont. The most random place, right?

[Ilona Mar]

Hibachi sushi place.

[Olivia]

And it was around Christmas time, and my friends were like, olivia's a grinch. She doesn't like Christmas that much. And it was still closer to his passing, so Christmas kind of reminded me of him. And it would make me, like, extra sad around the holidays. And they'd be like, oh, Livy's a grinch. Isn't much like Christmas or whatever. And I'd be like. In my head, I was like, yeah, yeah, whatever. They don't know. They just don't know that. It just makes me kind of sad. Walking out, I saw a guitar pick on the ground of a sushi restaurant. You know what I mean? I picked it up, and I was like. That felt very spiritual and, like, deep to me. So, yeah, Adriana's crying. Parker. So let's wrap out Tea Time team with some predictions for Alona's birthday. What are you doing for your birthday?

[Ilona Mar]

I'm just gonna do a little dinner. Hey, not too crazy. And then a trip with my little girls. My little girls being my women. Very fully grown women.

[Olivia]

Voluptuous. Voluptuous women.

[Ilona Mar]

I've never been the biggest birthday person, but I feel like for your 30s, you kind of have to do something.

[Olivia]

The big three. Oh, what medal is associated with the 30th?

[Narrator/Ad Host]

Could we.

[Olivia]

Can we look that up?

[Noni]

At one point, you just got to run out of medals.

[Olivia]

The pearl.

[Ilona Mar]

How cute.

[Olivia]

Oh, my gosh. Okay, so you're pearl.

[Ilona Mar]

Olivia.

[Noni]

We've got to get decorations.

[Olivia]

We've got to do. That's not. Believe me. Literally, as I said that, I went. Oh, hold on. Write that down. Okay, so.

[Noni]

So we could do a pearl theme. Or do you have a dream theme?

[Olivia]

Unlimited budget. What's your dream birthday party?

[Ilona Mar]

A yacht with my girls. The yachts around the med. Mediterranean. And it's just like, days of us dumping in, tanning, drinking. We take a private jet to get there. Of course I would. I. I think something that brings me joy is spoiling my girls. And so much has been bestowed upon me. I would like them to. To also reap the benefits of this. So I would like to. It brings me joy, that I can bring people joy. So big old yacht, and we're just there for a few days, drinking, maybe going to party on shore, coming back. Oh, yeah. An excursion or two. Excursion or two.

[Noni]

And now when is there going to be an Adidas yacht? Because there was that other fitness brand that had a yacht.

[Olivia]

Talk to Adidas for us.

[Noni]

I think we should get an Adidas yacht.

[Olivia]

Better yet, Adidas Viking River Cruise. I'd love to do that.

[Noni]

Olivia, we must ask, what can Adidas do for us?

[Ilona Mar]

Yeah, ask not what you can do

[Olivia]

for Adidas, ask what Adidas can do for you.

[Ilona Mar]

We're gonna play a rapid fire game called Try Hard. But this one is a birthday edition. Let's see how well you really know me, ladies. Try Hard. Presented by the new great tasting muscle milk. Okay, buzz in by making a buzzer sound. Please test your buzzers now.

[Olivia]

Perfect.

[Ilona Mar]

Okay, ready? What's my favorite movie? Very tough to say.

[Olivia]

Okay, on the count of three. One, two, three. Last holiday. Yes.

[Ilona Mar]

I love that movie, but I have some others. Last holiday, it could have been pr. Could have been Princess Irish, too. Also really frick with the first avatar.

[Olivia]

The avatars up there. She refuses to watch the other ones because she just wishes this family could know.

[Ilona Mar]

I mean. Oh, my gosh, they just keep fighting. I was like, made in Manhattan. Anyway, next. Where do I always say, I will find my husband?

[Noni]

Sorry, I read the screen. England. Yes.

[Ilona Mar]

I.

[Olivia]

Enough reading the screen. Don't look.

[Ilona Mar]

Okay, what would be on my warning label if I had one?

[Narrator/Ad Host]

Beep.

[Olivia]

Yeah. Mood swings.

[Ilona Mar]

That's a good one.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ilona Mar]

May. May. May have mood swings.

[Olivia]

May. Objects in mirror will swing in mood.

[Ilona Mar]

Right.

[Olivia]

Okay, Androni, you're doing the thing where you're kind of peeking out through your eyes.

[Ilona Mar]

You're pissing me off. I'm not old. This is my birthday.

[Olivia]

Please stop it.

[Ilona Mar]

How old will I be in 26 years? Oh, my gosh, you guys. That was diagonal. Adriana. Good job. Olivia didn't even.

[Olivia]

I wasn't even.

[Ilona Mar]

I'm just so scared of getting a wrong and embarrassing myself. Tell me your favorite fantasy story. I wrote. Beep. And not that I've wrote it, but I have it in my head.

[Olivia]

It's written in her head. I love the werewolf one where she's with the one, but then, like. Like the other pack or the other alpha, like, wants her and needs her, and then he's the one that changes her and not her original love.

[Ilona Mar]

That's a good one.

[Olivia]

I was on the edge of my seat. I was like.

[Ilona Mar]

And then what happened? It's made up in her brain.

[Olivia]

It's all up here.

[Ilona Mar]

I've been tweaking it too. There is a really sexy moon, full moon scene that we got coming. Like, this is good.

[Noni]

The original stories were by word of mouth.

[Olivia]

By word of mouth.

[Noni]

You're just bringing.

[Ilona Mar]

That's how religion was passed down. That's what you got going on right, though too. I gotta write.

[Olivia]

Oh, wait, you gotta fix your hair.

[Ilona Mar]

I've got to write those.

[Olivia]

Damn. Okay.

[Ilona Mar]

Because really, like, all werewolf stories are pretty very similar.

[Noni]

Very similar. And sometimes when they deviate, I'm like,

[Olivia]

figure it out, Figure it out.

[Ilona Mar]

Okay, ready? How many points is a rugby penalty kick worth?

[Noni]

Off. Oh.

[Olivia]

Three, two. Oh, one, two.

[Noni]

A penalty point.

[Ilona Mar]

One.

[Olivia]

Okay, I thought it was two as well. A penalty kick, A penalty kick.

[Noni]

Oh, is it one?

[Olivia]

Is three? Yeah, it is.

[Ilona Mar]

Well, you don't do a lot of them.

[Olivia]

I was thinking conversion.

[Ilona Mar]

Conversion is 2, 2, 2.

[Olivia]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Noni]

That was good.

[Olivia]

That was good. All right, next.

[Ilona Mar]

Obviously they don't know my sport. What type of content always makes me cry.

[Olivia]

Oh, always makes you cry. Cry with laughter. I mean, I'm gonna say soldiers coming home.

[Ilona Mar]

Those do always make me cry. What's my favorite family tradition? Olivia, the way you're sitting right now, I cannot take.

[Narrator/Ad Host]

What?

[Ilona Mar]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia]

Dude.

[Ilona Mar]

Feet pointed out is.

[Olivia]

Holy crap.

[Ilona Mar]

That was crazy to watch.

[Noni]

David.

[Ilona Mar]

Famous fuck up. Favorite family tradition. Or maybe my favorite holiday.

[Noni]

Okay,

[Ilona Mar]

I'm the last one.

[Noni]

Christmas.

[Ilona Mar]

I'd say now it's Christmas because, like, that's the only time we're together. It used to be I really loved Thanksgiving. When we'd wake up, they'd be cooking, I'd hug a little bit. I watch the masonry now you have

[Noni]

to clock in and cook the turkey.

[Olivia]

Yeah, somebody's got to cook the turkey. And it's our dog.

[Ilona Mar]

That's me. What drink am I ordering off a menu? What?

[Olivia]

A Negroni.

[Noni]

Okay, well, I'd say aperol sprouts.

[Ilona Mar]

I'll go more with negroni, but I was gonna say painkiller. I love a rum based.

[Olivia]

Loves a painkiller.

[Noni]

Painkiller.

[Olivia]

There's not on a lot of menus, so you're normally with a negroni. Thank you so much for coming over, y'. All. Happy birthday to our darling Ilona. You don't look a day over 29, baby. And we'll see you next freaking week.

[Noni]

Thanks so much for coming. Thanks so much for coming over to the House of Mar. A wave original.

[Ilona Mar]

Be sure to watch, subscribe on YouTube and listen wherever you podcast. Plus, follow the show on social media at House of Mar for clips and behind the scenes content.

[Olivia]

Everybody wish a lot a happy birthday right now.

[Ilona Mar]

Bye.

[Olivia]

Love you.

[Adriana]

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[Ilona Mar]

I'm not giving up.

[Olivia]

I am selling the building.

[Noni]

The final season of FX is the Bear.

[Ilona Mar]

The restaurant is flooded.

[Olivia]

Everything's either going to be okay. No, stop.

[Ilona Mar]

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[Olivia]

We are outgunned and we are outmanned.

[Ilona Mar]

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[Noni]

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[Adriana]

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