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Alona
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Adriana
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Alona
And breathe.
Adriana
Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. Oh, sorry. Namaste.
Olivia
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Adriana
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Olivia
Backwards, right?
Alona
Luge and skeleton are closer.
Adriana
Bobsleds and, oh, it's multiple people, too, right?
Alona
Bobsled. You can have one. You can have, like, one, and you can have two. And I think you have four in luge. Is this one okay? And luge, you can do two people, too.
Adriana
In fact, I'd like to do none of those.
Alona
Welcome or welcome back to House of Mara. Wave Original. Take off your metal. Oh, wait, you guys don't. Sorry. And help yourself to whatever's in the fridge. The WIFI password is torchbearers. All caps. You should know that we have a few house rules.
Olivia
Girls are magic.
Adriana
Reading is hot.
Alona
And so are you if you're watching this. We're in Milan at the Olympics. Be jealous.
Olivia
What do you think we're eating today? We're in Milan.
Alona
I see.
Adriana
Glass of wine. I see maybe, like, a preserved meat.
Alona
You're so bad.
Adriana
Some cheese, Maybe some tiramisu afterwards.
Olivia
Whoa. I want tortellini and broth. Is that a Roman thing? Who knows?
Alona
I bet they do it around there, too, y'.
Adriana
All.
Olivia
Around the parts.
Adriana
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alona
Guess how many Italian guys we probably would have seen today.
Olivia
It's Italy.
Alona
Hot Italian guys. Because when I went there, I went to Milan a few years ago. This was around the time when 365 days came out. And I was like, this is gonna be. This is gonna be big.
Olivia
We in the money.
Alona
There was none that looked like Michelle Maroney.
Adriana
Hmm.
Alona
That's the Olympics.
Adriana
So there's definitely gonna be a lot of, I would say, hot athletes. So maybe not Italian, but hot athlete siblings, too.
Olivia
Maybe around athletically built, too. Okay, well, my goal is to get my flirt on. I Think I just need to bring more flirt and whimsy into my life.
Adriana
She also said that about England, if you remember.
Alona
Yeah. This ain't the first time she said this. And we just got a nod.
Olivia
I can't work under these conditions.
Alona
Right, right. I think.
Olivia
I think I'm gonna. I'm gonna get after it with our schedule. Yeah.
Adriana
Okay.
Olivia
Yeah. We're gonna be clocked in. We're there with Team USA Creator program, and I'm excited. They're like, here's a whole list of things that you can do. Is there anything you like?
Adriana
You.
Olivia
You want to pick or choose? I was like, all of it. I'll do it all. I will be like Hermione Granger with my time turner. I will be in multiple places at once.
Adriana
I want to do it all.
Olivia
Pasta making classes, this. Watching sports.
Alona
When I was there, too. Even in the colder weather, they love a outdoor drink. We do an aperitivo.
Adriana
Don't let it stop you. Because there's heaters for a reason.
Alona
There's heaters for a reason. Really? You know, chic cigarettes.
Adriana
No, not to you.
Olivia
Not you, Miss Athlete. No, no.
Alona
Why does it look so cool? I'm not going to.
Olivia
I know. It looks so cool every time I touch down in Europe. Oh, my God.
Alona
They do the thin ones, the Vogues. Yeah.
Adriana
That's a huge thing.
Alona
I've noticed.
Adriana
So many people, like, will import vogues from their trips back, which, if you don't know, Vogues are the very long cigarettes from Europe.
Olivia
And thin, right?
Adriana
Thin. Yes, chic. Chic. And my friend's always like, could you get me a Vogue when you go, really?
Olivia
Really? Yeah.
Alona
I don't know.
Adriana
And they also. They're not smokers, but they'll smoke when they've had a drink. I think it's the aesthetic of it all. Yeah. And I'm like, it doesn't count when.
Olivia
You'Ve had a drink. I've heard if you're pure of heart, it doesn't affect your health.
Adriana
Okay.
Alona
Okay. Well, smoking is bad, guys.
Adriana
Smoking kills.
Alona
Don't do it. Smoking kills. And vaping. Anyway, let's get into the group chat. We are into group chat, which is something we like to do because we discuss what's going on online and in our group chats, they get a little bit of crazy.
Olivia
Yeah.
Alona
I want to do a little bit of touch grass in the group chat because we've been sending videos back and forth with each other of the. What are they calling it? Like, biscoff, The Japanese cheesecake.
Olivia
Yeah.
Alona
Where you take a tub of Greek yogurt, some people put espresso in it, and then they put Biscoff cookies in it. And they lie to us and say it tastes just like a cheesecake.
Olivia
Shove the Biscoff cookies in there. And then they let it sit so that the biscoff, like, soaks up some of the moisture. And then it's all shots on Instagram of people dragging their spoon through it. Cause the cookies are all soft now.
Alona
And I'm gonna be honest, I would like to try it.
Adriana
I'm sorry, but I know exactly what it tastes like. Yeah, it's just gonna taste like yogurt and bisco.
Alona
Cause, you know, it's kind of one.
Adriana
Of those recipes where, like, if you put yogurt into a piping bag and then pipe it into dots, put it in the freezer, you have little ice cream dots. No, you just have frozen yogurt.
Olivia
Yes, frozen yogurt dots.
Adriana
And you're gonna be like, that's just Greek yogurt.
Olivia
Cool.
Adriana
And that's just Greek yogurt. But I'm pretending I'm flying on delta.
Olivia
Yeah, right.
Alona
I saw one where they blended up cottage cheese and. Well, hey, listen. Hey. Cottage cheese is not as, like, I think, bright as a Greek yogurt.
Olivia
I know.
Adriana
Cottage cheese is tired.
Alona
They put in maple syrup, and then they put in some, so. And then they put the cookies in. I think maybe. Okay, I wouldn't call it cheesecake, but sounds like a lovely dessert. High protein dessert.
Olivia
I wonder if that one would taste the most like cheesecake, but, like, Greek yogurt. You're not convincing me if I have a Greek yogurt. Like, I have a big tub of it right now that I put in my smoothies and I have to, like, lick the spoon after I'm done.
Adriana
Oh, I want a gag every time.
Olivia
I do it, because I'm not going to waste what's on the spoon right before I put it in the sink. So I'm like, okay, that's sour cream. You know what I mean? Like, Greek yogurt does not do it for me. You're putting cookies in that. You can't convince me it's a cheesecake. Let it be a dessert.
Alona
Hell, yeah.
Olivia
Get it. But also, like, if you're eating that many cookies in one sitting, I feel like that's worse than just like.
Adriana
And also, does it get dry eating.
Olivia
A piece of cheesecake?
Adriana
The Biscoff is soaking up all of. What is it? The whey?
Alona
Think about, though, like, when you leave Greek Yogurt. You know, some of the food.
Adriana
Yeah.
Alona
I'm saying I don't think it gets dry. No.
Olivia
I would never poo poo people doing an Internet food trend.
Alona
Personally, I just did soy eggs.
Olivia
Oh, soy marinated eggs.
Alona
Soy marinated eggs. I think I do more food trends maybe than you guys do.
Adriana
Yeah, I don't really touch food trends. Sorry. It took me, like, three years to get onto the Emily Marico salmon bowls.
Alona
And now she's obsessed.
Olivia
You were on it. You were freaking on it.
Adriana
I call it my machine dinner, actually, because I have the rice cooker kicking, and then I've got the air fryer with the salmon in it. Her machine dinner. It's my machine dinner. I love it.
Olivia
I mean, eating a whole cucumber. I tried it once, and I was like, that's enough of that. I don't need that hard water. Okay.
Alona
One time I had this guy staying over, and I just remember, like, he was debating whether to stay over another night, but I didn't really want him to. Cause I was so pumped to make the cucumber tuna thing, and I couldn't risk that he would be there. And I regret that. That I was pretty much didn't want him to stay. Cause I was so excited to make the cucumber. But I think that's tuna.
Olivia
That's beautiful. Did he stay?
Alona
He didn't. Cause I was literally like, no. I don't see the point of it. Like, now it's gone. It definitely was not good at that time. Maybe some regrets, but maybe some regrets. That's what I think of when I think of cucumber tuna is how I really was so excited to eat it. I told him. I was like, no, you can go home.
Adriana
Famously. I don't like cucumbers. They taste too refreshing. Yep, she said that.
Olivia
Famously. That's Audrey's take on cucumbers always.
Adriana
It's like a bath and Body works threw up in your mouth.
Olivia
No, that's not true. I do. We do need to get on dense bean salads, ladies. We gotta get on that. I want to try that real bad.
Alona
Make that.
Olivia
Beans are so good for you.
Adriana
Beans are so good. Speaking. Speaking of other vegetables, Ilona just had me try a raw carrot again yesterday.
Olivia
What do you mean you don't eat carrots?
Alona
She doesn't like raw carrots.
Adriana
I like it cooked in things. I just never be like, let me grab that from the fridge and take a bite.
Alona
And by cooked in things, she means, like, not noticeably. No.
Adriana
I add that stuff to my chilies.
Alona
How small do you cook it?
Olivia
Cut it.
Adriana
Okay, yes, tiny, but there's a good amount of volume in it.
Alona
She also tried a piece of kale with Caesar dressing.
Olivia
I'm so proud of you.
Alona
And she also. I sauteed up some kale with some garlic on it. She tried that.
Adriana
It wasn't bad, but it was. It was just so bitter because it tasted like broccoli. But then it had bitter.
Olivia
Well, and I should say all this is because Adriana's been staying with Ilona, and Ilona's had her clocked in as her private chef.
Alona
It's not even kind of even.
Olivia
And I will say it was starting with Adriana, and now it's swinging the other way. Alona bought a lot of steak last steak.
Adriana
And we've leftovers.
Olivia
A lot of good quality steak. And then cooked it up last night. And you made a beautiful steak.
Alona
$44 a pound, for New York sake. I went to this place, and it's like one of those really bougie, butchered bougie. And I got saladran thing, and I got this kale stuff. But the steak, she bought a piece.
Olivia
Of cheese this big. I'm not messing around with this big. She pulls out of the fridge. She goes, that was $14.
Alona
I didn't realize how much it was. I regret that. And then I bought this garlic, this butter that was already compound butter with, like, garlic, rosemary. And Olivia's been coming to my place to have dinner a lot, but she hasn't had dinner on her own. But of course, tonight I'm like, just bought $60 worth of steak.
Olivia
The one night I'm not gonna be there for dinner. She's making steak, potatoes, kale with this amazing salad.
Adriana
And it was so good, like, alone. Also baked me a potato. She wasn't having that because skinny. I don't know health.
Alona
Cause I told you that.
Olivia
Anyway, we'll get into that.
Adriana
And just the way that it was, like the perfect potato. It wasn't waxy. It was, like, so creamy. Kerrygold, butter, salt and pep.
Olivia
She's been hiding this from me.
Adriana
Olivia. Like I was each bite. Like, I was rotating between steak and.
Alona
Potato flow state last night.
Olivia
A real ratatouille moment.
Adriana
No, actually, I was like, I want to save a little piece of this potato for my last bite. Then I'd have steak. And I was like, maybe I should save the steak instead.
Olivia
I love the steak. I'm eating tuna out of a can at my house and pickles from a jar.
Alona
And you had a sweet potato and.
Olivia
The Japanese sweet potato with cheese in it, which everybody, I'm so happy to confirm, tastes like sweet potato with cheese in it. Keep moving.
Alona
Here's how I cooked the steak. So first off, I called my mom, of course, because she knows how to cook steak. It was a thick piece, too. So I first. And everyone listen. First heated the pan hot. Then I rendered the fat a little bit.
Olivia
Right?
Alona
Then I put it on there.
Adriana
Boop.
Alona
And then I flipped it once. It got seared. And then I put that garlic butter in. And then the smoke alarm did go off.
Olivia
Right.
Alona
And a john had to come in and open up every window in the kitchen.
Olivia
Meanwhile, I'm trying to hold my pan.
Alona
With a kitchen cloth, and I catch it on fire, but I just threw in the sink. Then that was okay. So I keep. She's opening every window. I'm continuing to baste this steak within an inch of its life, you know?
Adriana
And we cannot find the smoke.
Alona
We cannot find the smoke.
Adriana
So it's just going off, and I'm hearing it. I'm looking at the ceiling.
Alona
But I got a basis. What am I going to see? $60 with a steak. I can't not look at it.
Olivia
Right, Right.
Alona
Cooked perfectly. I cut into that. Adriana.
Adriana
Perfect.
Olivia
I was doing laundry, and I came back to my phone, and I had, like, three missed FaceTime calls from Alona because she wanted me to see the steak I was missing out on.
Adriana
Also, Olivia was invited.
Alona
She was invited, right? But she had been over, like, so much.
Olivia
Yeah. I keep inviting myself over to, like, read on your balcony and then take a bath.
Alona
Take a bath. She'll be in the bath, like, an hour and a half.
Olivia
I love it in there.
Adriana
That's actually not that.
Alona
That is a long time.
Adriana
You take a short bath.
Olivia
I want to say this. Alona never fills a bathtub the full way. She thinks it's a waste of water. Okay. Why are you doing it anyway? Then she will just sort of sit in a shallow thing of water. We were in this really nice hotel once, and she had this giant bathtub. And I come into the bathroom, and I was like, girl, what's going on in here? Because she was, like, only up to here in water. And when she could have been, like, up to her boobs in it, it was just, like, skimming her thighs. It was real weird.
Alona
I was extremely aware of my clean water usage. Like, whenever I go to the bathroom, I'm like, why am I pooping in the clean water right now?
Adriana
Because the splashback.
Alona
But I just feel like it's wasted. When I'm in Hong Kong, there's this. There's the tubs in the hotel actually. Have a seat. So it's actually like a little bench and a seat. I won't fill it up all the way because you could sit like this almost, and you could get the water to, like, here in this tub. To me, waste of water. I only fill up the lower part, and I lay in the part just for your feet.
Adriana
Can I share something frightening? So last night I took a bath.
Alona
Huh.
Adriana
And then afterwards, I got out and I realized, oh, I went shoe shopping with Olivia. I didn't wash my feet before I took the bath. And then I was thinking about what your gynecologist told you about pulling up draws and catching your feet, then going to the cooter. And I was thinking about how many feet also tried on those pairs of shoes.
Olivia
Adriana took a yeast soup last night.
Alona
No, she didn't. Audrey, you're fine. Olivia, don't feed into that. We are very different. They are very. How would you describe us? You guys are kind of clean and orderly.
Adriana
Neurotic.
Alona
Neurotic, yeah. Not me. I'm more. Flow. Flow.
Olivia
She's a real flow. Go with the flow to the point where we're like, what are you doing?
Adriana
Stop.
Olivia
You mustn't eat that off the floor kind of thing.
Alona
I don't. There's not much I wouldn't eat. I think about sometimes. I'm like, yeah, I would eat that.
Olivia
Off of the floor.
Alona
No, no, no. Not for. But it's like, in general, in life, like, not. There's nothing that would make me, I think, throw up. Like, things. You know, people throw up when things are disgusting. There's not. That would make me.
Olivia
Yeah.
Alona
Barf.
Olivia
Well, what are you eating? I mean, we are at the Olympics as this is happening. What are these athletes eating? What are you eating to train? Like, what was it just, like, car bloating? What is it, Protein?
Alona
Well, in terms of a personal. I got my body comped on, which is where I get my skin pinched. And they tell you, like, the fat that's on you and your body. Percentage of fat to muscle. And my body comp was I'm like, the biggest I've ever been in terms of centimeters, but I'm not the biggest weight I've ever been. So I'm like 208 and. But I've been 213 and been a smaller body comp. So that's also my thing where people are so focused on weight when weight can just sell Such a small part of the story, Right? I've played my best sometimes at 205 and been really lean. I've also been 205 and been bigger. So I just think that's where it's cool to know more. More about how you feel, more about how you are. So I did a body comp. She tested me. I am have the most fat I've ever had on me before, which, of course, this can be tough to hear. I think I have a weird balance of not just being. Wanting to look good, but how can my body perform. So that's another added thing of getting into your head about it that, oh, I'm carrying more fat on me, which means that I'm not as quick off the ground, or that means I'm carrying five extra pounds of something when I'm trying to move fast across the field.
Olivia
Right.
Alona
So it kind of really can get to you. And that's also why I made that tick tock recently by, like, not being ashamed of these. All these messages about losing weight, because even I feel it, and I think we all feel it here too. So we've all just kind of been conscious, even this year, of just trying to be better with our eating, not trying to lose so much or to. To get to one size. We just want to be, I think, all around a little healthier of how we eat because we love to drink.
Olivia
Mm.
Alona
Olivia and I opened a bottle of wine the other night after not drinking for a week.
Olivia
Bottle of rose. We have. Not drinking.
Alona
And oh, my God, just the smell of it. We were. I was like, we have a problem.
Olivia
But there was something about that, like, not delay.
Alona
Yeah.
Olivia
Delayed gratification. We haven't had wine in a while. It just made it that much sweeter to have it after. Not.
Alona
Yes. So we're all just being a little bit better.
Olivia
Like, more conscious, more intuitive, I would say, too. We're just being like, okay, I am. I'm trying to be like, okay, I am full now. It's all good. Let it sit for two seconds. You actually will realize you are fuller than you think. That kind of thing.
Adriana
That's nice. I haven't spoken about this. I did dry January and notice how I wasn't annoying about it. They're making more jokes than I am, and I actually found. I was very grateful for it because I found certain times where I was like, oh, I would have actually drank in because of the pressure. Like, oh, it's free. Or it's something, you know, like, we're at a party. Olivia And I were at the movie premiere, there was free drinks going around and I was like, oh rats. Like that would have been so nice. They're themed. How fun. But then we left within 45 minutes and I was like, oh, I probably. I would have had one or two and then I would have regretted it because we would have been gone so soon, you know. So there's been a lot of moments like that this month where I'm just like. It's helped me put. Put it into perspective.
Olivia
Yeah.
Adriana
There's been one night that really did suck. My friend and I went to. We just got a nice little dinner together, some pizza and usually we will get a bottle of wine and like we'll split it and we'll just have such a lovely evening. And we still did have such a lovely evening. But she texted, she was like, are you okay if I get some wine? And I was like, absolutely, I'm fine with that. But I just like, I think. Cause it's almost like a tradition and it's something like we have a lot of fun when we do that. That was the only time that I was like this sucks. Like I want to be able to.
Olivia
Do it when it's like a connection point in a community.
Adriana
But the rest I was like, I don't think I need a drink in these scenarios. Like I think it really did reframe how I view alcohol.
Alona
Yeah, sorry we're saying all this. We'll probably.
Adriana
But I think everything is in moderation.
Olivia
Have a win down in Milan.
Alona
It's all out. The freaking Naprol spritzes.
Olivia
Oh my God. Naproll spritz.
Adriana
How do you feel about an aperol spritz in Feb? Like in the winter?
Olivia
It's like the apres ski drink.
Adriana
Is it?
Olivia
Yeah.
Adriana
I've never apres skied.
Alona
I will say though, you two like when. Cuz I will go out and I'll drink and I'll get drunk a lot. You guys are very kind of particular when you do that. So you do do very well with that.
Adriana
Yeah.
Alona
Or like sometimes I get toe fungus. This was years ago. But if you go on meds for it, you can't drink while on the meds because they can hurt your liver. So for like a few months I couldn't drink and I was like, oh man, I don't know if I want to go out after a tournament. And I went out and I was like realize, oh shit. I'm just fun.
Olivia
Yeah.
Alona
Like it's never been the alcohol. It's making me fun. It's just I'm fun. And so that also I think actually can even hinder me. Even if you almost pretend to have the freeness of a drunk person, it kind of helps you. But yeah, I'm placebo. Placebo. I am fun and I think that the alcohol has never made us have that. We use it more for connection, which I think we can also use a diet Coke for, right?
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Olivia
All. Let's get into some Olympic tea.
Alona
I would love to be the a flag bearer at one of the Olympics. For the last Olympics, it was you vote for flag bearers. So for the opening and closing ceremony and our opening one was Coco Gaff for the women. I didn't put my name in the hat for that one. But then at the end you get to choose for a closing flag bearer. And I put my name in the hat for that one and then it was left with me. And Katie Ledecky was the final two. And I made a TikTok about it and Katie Ledecky was chosen. But I still was like, I think that would be really cool to be.
Olivia
You put your name in for it.
Alona
Each team can put a person in and nominate one person. And so after, I don't even think, I don't know if we put my name in for the beginning one, but at the end there we put my name in.
Olivia
That's very cool.
Alona
And yeah, I would love to at some time, but also I'm like, don't even know if I would go to an opening ceremony.
Adriana
LA28 women's rugby is gonna start before the opening ceremony. So you're not gonna even be allowed to go if you go. Like, the rugby team won't be allow go because they need to focus on.
Alona
Their sport ever there.
Adriana
But closing ceremony.
Alona
So if I make it to them, because I'm going to start now with my. What is it called?
Adriana
Polling your campaign.
Alona
Campaign to be the closing flag bearer.
Olivia
I'm starting this now, L.A. 28 year first hopeful closing flag Vocalona for the.
Alona
1% of Olympians who are listening to this show.
Olivia
Is there anybody you're so excited to watch in Milan?
Alona
I'm really excited to watch Amber Glenn. She's a figure skater. Really amazing what she's doing out there. And then even Alyssa Liu, she's been really cool, has really cool hair. She's like, has kind of like hair theory. And each year she adds like another ring to her hair.
Adriana
Oh, really? Halo style.
Alona
Halo style. Whoa.
Olivia
Yeah.
Adriana
Kind of like what Rosalia had, but with many of them.
Olivia
Oh, interesting. Yeah, she's very cool.
Adriana
We also should say then Isabeau to make the figure saving team complete.
Alona
Ah, of course.
Adriana
I think New Jersey queen. And also her family lives in Milan, so her grandmother's only like been able to see her play like once.
Olivia
Oh, sure.
Adriana
And now it's like a home Olympics and she's gonna be representing the US and her grandmother's gonna be there.
Alona
Oh, my gosh.
Olivia
Beautiful. Alyssa retired at like age 16 or something, and now, like came back in secret and then fully came back.
Adriana
Right.
Olivia
Is that what happened with her?
Alona
Yeah, yeah.
Adriana
She ret about or. I think, yeah. She didn't practice for two years, secretly went back on the ice and then, like, started connecting with her team again. And she had rules and she was like, I get a hand in picking my music outfits. No one controls what I eat. All of that. And I'm just like, hell yeah.
Alona
Hell, yeah.
Adriana
And I'm like, good for her for taking those years off. I think that really helped her to where she is today, you know? And she came back so strong. World champion, I think. Didn't she get world champion?
Alona
She did something like that. Yeah. And then her other people did the celebration she does.
Adriana
Amber Glenn is a three time US Champion, which is incredible. And also range athlete. She's one of Alona's agents athletes as well. So feel connected to her through that.
Alona
Rhiann, my lovely agent.
Olivia
Amber is the first openly queer woman to compete in the Olympics. Oh. In singles at the Winter Olympics. Very cool.
Adriana
Which is crazy to me of. She's the first open queer woman in singles. Like, I think, because I know so many sports are not accepting to queer people, but I think obviously I'm so exposed to your team in the culture where it's weird that you're straight. So hearing like the experience of other people, I'm like, it's a different world out there. It is like, it's so interesting that rugby has progressed so fast, but then these sports are still like, in. In the past.
Alona
Yeah.
Olivia
Interesting. Any other sports we're excited to see?
Alona
I mean, we are just gonna be in Milan, which is just like rink sports. So I think we'll see hockey. I hope to see the women's hockey team play. We'll get to see some curling.
Olivia
No, curling's not there.
Alona
Curling's not there. Where it's curling.
Olivia
Curling is like not also not Cortina. It's the secret third place.
Adriana
Secret third place.
Alona
So what are we watching?
Olivia
We have figure skating, speed skating, ice hockey.
Alona
Oh, speed skating. There's. I just know her by Instagram handle and I met her before, but Speedy Jackson, she took up speed skating later in life. I mean, she's still very young, but only like it was something like two years before the last Olympics did she start speed skating. And she won a medal.
Olivia
Whoa.
Alona
She's very good. I'm excited to see. I've met Michaela Shiffrin a couple times. She's an Adidas athlete as well. And then Lindsey Vaughn, who has. I met her once in passing, years ago. And then she wrote a lovely piece for me in Time magazine, and I was like, thank you, Lindsey Vaughn. And then we met her. We saw her again at the ESPYs. But she's somebody who's been very supportive of me and my journey, even having barely met her to make a comeback. I think she's, like, 42, 41.
Adriana
And she's had a partial knee replacement.
Alona
Well, those skiers have had all knees. They are messed up, really.
Adriana
Questions? Is she connected to Vermont, or is.
Alona
That Mikayla Shifrin's connection?
Olivia
Michael Kayla Shifrin is. I feel like Lindsey has something.
Adriana
I think Vermont, when it comes to winter athletes, loves to claim as many as they can.
Olivia
They skied there once.
Adriana
Yeah. You've skied one slope.
Olivia
Oh, you.
Adriana
You trained a Vermont.
Alona
Vermont Olympian.
Adriana
Yeah. And I'm just like, are we certain? How do they pronounce Charlotte?
Alona
Yeah.
Adriana
You know, Alona, there's hope for you yet.
Olivia
Well, you can.
Adriana
No, I know.
Alona
I'm thinking, when's the. What's we got? The Australia Olympics. I'll take that off, and then I come back in for the one after that.
Adriana
Right. Perfect.
Alona
If not two more after that.
Olivia
Good for you. Yeah. Solid plan, dog.
Alona
Yeah. You are gonna be creeping across that field.
Adriana
I'm like, ooh, ooh, your knees, your hips.
Alona
My producers asked me if I'd ever want to coach. I.
Olivia
No.
Alona
The answer is I would be the fun assistant coach who comes in and, like, maybe sets a drill up. But coaching is hard, and I think I've learned that without any coaches, not everyone's gonna like you. And you have to be okay with that as a coach, that some people are gonna think you are the best, and a lot of people are gonna think you're the worst. And it's like, it's hard to be a coach. You're managing people's expectations. You're managing people's dreams and whatnot. So I don't know if I would ever be a coach. I would do some coaching here and there, but I could never be a head coach. That is way too much on me. And I am not a coach type. I am a player type. And there's even stuff that the best players don't make good coaches. Not saying I'm the best player, but great players don't often make good coaches. Sometimes good coaches are the bench players. Yeah. Who didn't actually play that much. They see the game in a different way. So. No.
Adriana
You would kill it at camp, though.
Alona
Yeah. You coach clinic for a little bit. For a little bit. But I can set up those.
Adriana
Those cones like no one's business.
Alona
She got him in the back of her car right now putting a practice plan on.
Olivia
Oh, come on. No, I don't do that. She's done some, like, guest coaching, and even after that, I'm like, right.
Adriana
I do want to share this, Adriana.
Olivia
So she's. She loves this.
Adriana
She told me about this.
Olivia
Heavy. I don't know if I. She's heard about it, so I'm excited for you to tell Alona.
Adriana
I love this story. So when the Canadians were picking their Doing, their competition to figure out who they're going to send for women's singles, there's this one skater who had a comeback similar to, like, Lindsey Vonn. She was older, but then there's this younger girl, too, who was getting interviewed afterwards about just, like, anything. Oh. About the chance of the woman's come back, taking the spot. And she goes, how do I say this? Over my dead body is someone going to the Olympics other than me? The sass, the competitiveness. I loved it. I loved it because I'm just like, they're. They're athletes. They're gonna be competitive. And I'm like, I love to see that. Like, she's not giving, like, a media train response, a PC response. Like, that's how she feels. Like she's worked her entire life for this. Over her dead body is someone going to the Olympics other than her.
Olivia
And she's got this, like, look in her eye, too.
Alona
I might. I think I saw this.
Olivia
You probably did. And it's just like.
Alona
And I thought to myself, fuck, yeah.
Olivia
Yeah, exactly.
Alona
I think the same thing. Hey, I wish the best for my teammates. Yeah. But I better be on that roster every time. I want you guys to be really successful. I don't want you to be the best players you can be. I want to be. I want to be on there.
Olivia
Yeah. People online were like, that's so distasteful. Like, whatever.
Alona
Elite athletes, they probably suck. Exactly.
Olivia
It's like these. They're literally. Their literal job is to be competitive. Like, why can't women be competitive?
Alona
And that. And I. And I've always hated that when the people, like, the athletes are. It happens. It's very pervasive in, like, rugby, and it's a kind of the culture in New Zealand rugby of being very humble, like, overly humble, like, saying, like, oh, no. You know, the boys went out there, did so well. We're so proud.
Adriana
Like, even this person scored eight tries.
Alona
Like, Porsche, woman just scored literally seven tries. And most of them are individual. And she'll be like, you know, it was my teammates, which it is your teammates. But also, I think I kind of like that certain level of I. And we call it arrogance, but it's just knowing what you're worth is drinking yourself and it's being real.
Adriana
Yeah.
Alona
Why? She's not gonna let anybody take her Olympic spot, and she's not. Yeah. Good luck to them. But I'm trying to do that.
Olivia
Yeah.
Alona
So I respect that Canadian.
Olivia
And she even said, like, I respect the comeback, but how do I say this? Over my dead body.
Alona
I love that.
Olivia
Yeah.
Adriana
And it reminds me of just, like, how in the pwhl, no fighting is allowed. That's crazy.
Alona
Is that in the rule book?
Adriana
Mm.
Alona
Fighting is not allowed. No. They're actually incursed by NHL.
Adriana
I know that they can go to the sin bin or something. So I was, like, wondering, is there.
Olivia
Like, a player on the. On the Enforcer called the Enforcer who's there to beat people up?
Alona
You guys know that from what?
Olivia
From Dad's story.
Adriana
The golfer.
Alona
Oh, you knew your sexy book.
Adriana
Romance. Beautiful romance books.
Alona
Beautiful romance.
Olivia
I need to just really say, I don't know if Mom's told you this. She's been reading Heated Rivalry. She's been reading it, and she's like, I think I need to put it down.
Adriana
It's a lot.
Alona
I go, why would she start with that book?
Olivia
That's what I said to her. I was like, mom. She was like, I wanted to be a part of what you guys were talking about. I was like, okay, ask me what we're talking about, and I'll tell you what to read.
Adriana
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Olivia
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Adriana
Let us know.
Olivia
But she's been reading, and she's like, I might not finish it. I was like, fair Mom. It's all freaking good. She's like, I'm learning a lot, though.
Alona
I think I have to talk to a player from the PWHL and one of my teammates, also a lifeculptor. She played hockey a lot, and it's part of the culture kind of in hockey to fight, and there's certain things like the she'll tell you about or whatnot. But I. I find that interesting. That's part of the rule book, and I think that if it's not in the men's rulebook, don't put it in the women's rule book.
Adriana
Exactly. And also, fighting is the best part of hockey.
Olivia
Well, I kind of like watching it. Yeah.
Alona
I don't fight, but when my teammates fight, I'm like, go, girl. Yeah.
Olivia
And that's when the. That's where the expression gloves off comes from. Right. Probably when they throw their gloves off.
Alona
Because you look like a. If you fight with your gloves on.
Olivia
Oh, really?
Adriana
That's good to know.
Olivia
You look like a bitch if you fight with your gloves on alone. Amar.
Adriana
That's good. That's good. This also reminds me of how in the wnba, the women get criticized so much if they ever have trash talk on the court. And I'm like, that's what built so much of the mnba. If you're gonna make me put a W in front of that, I'm putting an M in front of that. That, like, so much, like, attention was brought to them because of all this, the smack talk and the this and that, like, the rivalry here. But if Angel Reese says something that she's branded, like this horrible woman. She just had a great interview about talking about that.
Alona
Yeah.
Adriana
And she's like, no, we should be able to do that. It's part of the game.
Alona
Y. She describes as the culture of basketball, too. And she's playing it like just a pickup game with her buddies. They're trash talking. That's part of it. So I think it's. It's how you learn on the court, how you communicate. I think people don't understand that.
Olivia
And there's, like, fighting's not, like, allowed in rugby. Right.
Alona
But it happens. That was iconic.
Adriana
When it happened when you were playing, I was like, I didn't know this could happen.
Alona
Who fought?
Adriana
It was Hannah.
Olivia
Hannah Bottom in a first.
Alona
Oh, yeah. I love it. I think. Go, go.
Adriana
Good.
Alona
I think people in America, we love to be entertained. Be entertained. We love violence. In some ways, I think if it's not fully you killing someone, if there's a little tussle, I'm not, like, fully saying this is good, but it's heated. You're in a sport. Can you then get back to your job and keep playing? Is great.
Olivia
Good at it.
Alona
Yeah.
Olivia
Especially rugby, where you're all up on each other's bodies.
Adriana
You're all like.
Olivia
And the. The fighting I've seen in rugby is, like, shoving kind of.
Adriana
It's like pushing back.
Alona
In your face.
Olivia
And you don't do it.
Alona
So it's like I should. No one wants to fight me.
Olivia
Weirdly, honestly, they should, because that would help.
Alona
I think in rugby, I do find it to be dumb fighting because it's like, if you've pissed me off, I'm just gonna stiff arm you in the face later. Or I'm just gonna tackle you as hard as possible. Right? So there's other ways to get back at people where I just think, okay.
Olivia
Fine, but in a lawful, like, safe way.
Alona
Yeah, do your thing later on.
Olivia
No, no. Is there trash talking? You guys are all close together.
Alona
Some people trash talk.
Adriana
Well, they do it in the scrum.
Alona
Yeah. Or like people like grunt at you or say, I think it's fine, I just don't have the width for. I'm more just like, okay, I think if you're gonna trash talk to me, back it up.
Olivia
Right?
Alona
And if you let me talk you, it's like, that was embarrassing. So I don't in fear that if I say something like, you're not gonna get past me.
Olivia
And then they get.
Alona
And then they get past me. My cred is done, right? My street credit freaking over.
Olivia
I mean. And in rugby, women's game and men's game, the rules are exactly the same, Right.
Alona
Sadly enough, though, in Sevens game, they have now decided to institute a smaller ball, right. For the women, which I recently was down in San Diego with the girls trying out this ball. It's barely smaller. There's no point. I think that what was so special about rugby is that we had the same ball and there's no difference between men and women. And now to say that, oh, the game's not exciting enough. We need a ball. Who said the game's not exciting enough? The game's exciting enough with of the same size, you know, ball. So it really did piss me off. And I think I'm gonna make a post or I'm gonna say something on my Instagram story and tag everybody. I think you should World Rugby everybody. Because I just really.
Olivia
Nobody's safe.
Adriana
She's tagging.
Alona
Nobody's safe.
Adriana
Because it's also like, you've been practicing with that ball your entire career, right? Like, how dare they change that from you without. Did they talk to any of the players? Did they? Or was it like a higher up decision?
Alona
So they're trying to think that if the ball's smaller, women can like, like hold it more, but it's not that much smaller. So.
Adriana
So it's a production issue, not really.
Alona
Going to be able to hold it. And my thing is that now if you have A tournament with men and women, you have to buy two types of balls. So it's actually more cost instead of having one sort of ball that can be used throughout.
Olivia
Yeah.
Alona
I think that in trying to make something that's, it's like if it's not broke, don't fix it.
Olivia
And I want to say they've got so many other things to figure out first. Like the ball was the last thing that needed to be dealt with when it comes to rugby and its growth.
Alona
Yeah.
Olivia
In the world.
Adriana
What they should be doing. Let's pick better cities for the tournament. In the US it's been in la.
Olivia
It'S in la, but it's in like Torrance. So it's not even accessible to like when tourists come here, the things they want to see are more like Hollywood or Santa Monica or like that, you know, and it's just sort of in what feels like to la, the middle of nowhere.
Adriana
Yeah. It's out there and it's, it's, it's not the best rugby city to do it in. You know, like there's not a lot of rugby fans. It's a, it's a very quiet stadium. Not a lot of people show up.
Olivia
You have to drive there. The parking's $30. You can't drive away without paying the $30 again to come back.
Adriana
And this year it's going to be in New Jersey, but of course they're calling it New York City.
Olivia
New York.
Adriana
No, it's going to be in New Jersey in March in an open stadium.
Alona
Yeah. Which you'd be like, oh, well, they play football at that time. The thing with us is that it's like an eight hour event. So you're out there if you want to see all the games. You're out there for eight hours in the cold.
Olivia
Yeah.
Alona
I think there's a lot that we're missing on in rugby. And sometimes I just feel like, and people even talk to me like, I don't know if I'm going to check out the New York Sevens. But somebody was like, oh, well, you know, you should, you're trying to spread the game. It's like, am I the only one trying to spread this game? Because right now I'm getting, it's heavy on things. Heavy. More people can do it. Like even taking this break, I sometimes think like, okay, they used me to advertise this game. Should I be playing in that game? But I'm currently the, the only one who seems to be doing. And I'm sorry that it sucks. After social media Guys. But we have to do it or else our sport. Our sport's actually kind of going down. We talk about going up. It's actually really not. I was talking to my dad about it. I think Covid really kind of hurt our sport because we're such a close, intense sport that when Covid hit, you couldn't play rugby for like a year without serious precaution. Because when you're in the scrum together, you're close. When you're tackling, you're close. When you're over a rock, you're face to face. Whereas why not play more basketball or soccer? That's a little bit farther apart. In some ways, you can wear a mask. It's not as physical. So our sport really took a hit.
Olivia
Right.
Alona
And I don't know if we fully or have come back. And I. I sincerely hope we do come back.
Adriana
Yeah.
Alona
But we have a long way to go. I could talk about it more. Let's change the subject.
Adriana
It's gonna.
Olivia
There's a long way to go. Even from like. Yeah, like that side. And just to. From the way rugby entities are structured and they conduct business. It's like sometimes I feel like they're hurting themselves instead of just like you.
Alona
Guys found it when I was over in England playing it. Even English rugby conducts things differently. Like the league I was playing in there was a very much more like, oh, well, then Alona can just do this for us.
Olivia
We'll just do. That's like, huh?
Alona
No, you can pay her.
Olivia
Yeah.
Alona
Six figures. And maybe like, it just was just not understanding. And I get used for everything. And even I've said this before, it's like some places almost think that I owe rugby something.
Olivia
Yeah.
Alona
I'm like, shit. Rugby owes me something at this point.
Olivia
Freaking point.
Alona
And that's all. My back hurts.
Olivia
The plight physically. Right. The plight of a female athlete is like, oh, you should feel grateful for the opportunity. It's like, no, pay them what? Like what you're paying your men.
Adriana
So this is a. This is a job.
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Alona
It's tough.
Adriana
There's gonna be what, a few Olympic villages. There's not just gonna be the one.
Olivia
I feel like that's sad for them. What do you, what do you think of that? There's not one like Olympic village.
Alona
I think that is probably annoying, but also just kind of realistic. Yeah, because Summer Olympics were not words. You can do it using a field or a court and you can do it kind of in city. Whereas you need full on mountains. And it's not just you need a mountain to do the ski jump. You need a mountain to do bobsled. You need a mountain to do this. So I think it's just a reality of their sports, kind of. And I bet they're used to it because if they did all want to stay in Milan, they'd. Or wherever they are, they have to travel out far. But I don't know how other Olympics have been. I know for me, you really just want to go to the Olympics. To go to the Olympics, no matter where it is. So even for if it's out there, okay. If that's part of the Olympics, I think they'll do a good job of still making Cortina just as impactful.
Olivia
Well, team, a hell of a tee time. Apparently, we're gonna play a little try hard.
Alona
We're gonna play try hard. Olympic edition. Which a goal in rugby, as you all should know at this point, if.
Adriana
Not this is the last time we're saying it.
Alona
I'll keep saying it just to teach you. A goal in rugby is called the try. Why? It's our touchdown. So we have to try hard to answer these questions as quickly as possible.
Olivia
Okay. What Olympic sport do you think you would be great at?
Alona
Bobsled.
Olivia
Bobsled.
Adriana
Why?
Alona
It's all about power and speed for over a short distance, which I don't have that much of. But dad says I'd be good at it.
Olivia
Okay, perfect.
Alona
And answer bobs letters have also said.
Olivia
But they have big booties.
Alona
They have great thighs.
Olivia
Yeah.
Adriana
What's the difference between luge and bobsledding?
Olivia
Very much backwards. Right?
Alona
I don't want any. Luge and skeleton are closer bobsleds in.
Adriana
Oh, it's multiple people, too. Right.
Alona
Bobsled, you can have one. You can have, like, one, and you can have two. And I think you can have four in. And then luge is. I think luge is this one where you go feet first down on it, and you. You're not in a contraption. You're on a sled.
Olivia
So like death sledding.
Alona
And then skeleton is face first, down and lose. You can do two people, too.
Adriana
In fact, I'd like to do none of those. Very dangerous.
Alona
Probably.
Adriana
Yeah. I think I would do like a speed skating. Ooh, get me on that ring.
Olivia
You got good booties, too. Mine would be curling. I just think I'd be good at it. Precision. Right? Sliding across the ice.
Alona
Focus.
Adriana
Would you be the one that puts it off or the one sweeping?
Olivia
Of course.
Adriana
Okay.
Olivia
I'd be the ringer.
Adriana
And what sport do you think you'd be terrible at.
Alona
I would be terrible at. Lose your skeleton. Because I know I said bobsled, but that feels different to me. I'm actually a very cautious person. Remember when we would take those slides down the mountain?
Olivia
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Alona
Like alpine slides. Why did I even say bobsled? But I would go so slowly. Honestly, you would just be on that break. If I was face first. No, that's bobsled with the break.
Olivia
No, no, but like, the alpine slide.
Alona
On the alpine side, yeah, you'd be.
Olivia
On that break, which I guess is.
Alona
Bobsled, but on the skeleton, I would be going very slowly around those turns.
Adriana
I think I'd be bad at snowboarding. Do not. I've never done a flip in my life. You want me to flip in the air?
Olivia
No, no. I don't know. I think I'm gonna get rid of it. I'm sorry. Next question.
Alona
What Olympian has the best style? I'll pick Alyssa Liu. Just because I love what she's doing with the hair. It's so noticeable, and she's like. Has a. You know, the reason she's doing it all. It's very cool to me.
Olivia
I think Lindsey Vonn is, like, known for her style, too, and she just released another collection of something.
Alona
Yeah, I saw that.
Olivia
So.
Adriana
So that feels right to bring us into summer. Naomi Osako, she really eats down.
Olivia
Yeah. Her fits. She designs them, too, in collaboration. I think that's really fabulous. What foods are you looking most forward to in Italy?
Alona
It's so basic to say, but just pasta, I guess.
Olivia
Oh, I know. It's just good over there.
Adriana
I love a cheese ravioli. Oh, I think that'd be good to have a homemade one.
Alona
You know what I have in Milan, it's ossobuco. I'm not sure if I'm saying that right, but I had it when I was there. It's like, somebody help me out here. It's. I think it's like oxtail. Oh. Or something like that. And then they kind of cook it so, you know, the marrow inside of it gets, like, really melted. And then they do it with, like, risotto.
Adriana
Maybe.
Alona
We should make reservations to places now we should do.
Adriana
Side note. You. You brought this up when you just said bone marrow. I would be the type of mom that is cooking down bone marrow and then whipping it.
Alona
You would?
Adriana
Yeah, yeah.
Olivia
Whip it for your kids.
Alona
Life for your kids.
Adriana
Cause it's like a baby food, like, consistency, you know? And if you think about it, I'm like, that's probably got a bunch of good shit in it. I'm gonna give them that.
Olivia
Overall alone is doubtful. Why? Even on her face? Why?
Alona
I think Bone Mart. Really?
Adriana
That's what they do. They do whip bone Martin.
Alona
I've seen it. I have seen it. I don't know. I don't fully believe it.
Adriana
Just think a few times we kinda got. Okay.
Alona
I mean, no, I would give it to my baby. Yeah, a few times every day.
Adriana
That's gonna be mom shaming.
Alona
I'm sorry. They are obsessed with the bone marrow.
Olivia
Some of these people answer for each other. What is something you should win a medal for? That's not a sport. Let's hear it.
Adriana
Scheduling.
Olivia
Oh, really?
Adriana
For Olivia.
Olivia
Oh, okay. Period alone is.
Adriana
Would be Olivia's.
Alona
Would be. When you get her to try something, you make her finding something wrong with it. Really?
Olivia
Yeah, but you guys don't make me stuff often. So when does this happen?
Adriana
Maybe because we're scared.
Alona
Maybe we're scared. You find just something slightly. What's wrong with it? Wait, can I change my answer?
Adriana
Is Olivia finding something wrong with surface at a restaurant?
Olivia
Oh, my God.
Alona
Because, yeah, our Olivia is in a long line to turn into our Oma. Yeah, it's Oma. Our mom's getting there. And then Olivia's right behind.
Olivia
Hospitality is in my blood, okay? And when I worked it, I took great pride in it. And when I see anything less than that, I noticed she's not being mean.
Adriana
To servers or anything. She is just commenting to us. And I'm sick of it sometimes.
Olivia
Sorry, what if I commented on you guys made this has I did chickpea thing.
Alona
You said it's pretty spicy.
Adriana
And then you're like, no meat.
Alona
Because Olivia's a very good cook. Olivia's a very, very good cook. So then you get nervous to cook for her.
Olivia
What did I say the next day though, I called you and I said, I don't know. By the way, the chickpea curry was really good. I didn't say that enough.
Adriana
Last night she did. She did. Redemption.
Olivia
But I still said it was good in the moment too.
Adriana
No, no.
Olivia
And then your peanut sauce. You asked me what was wrong with it.
Alona
Yeah, but even then I knew that you would not. Like, like I knew that. You know, you. You do that sometimes.
Adriana
That's okay.
Alona
But you got.
Olivia
You guys have never made stuff for me, so how do I do this?
Alona
Let me. We're afraid to, right?
Adriana
Because you will.
Olivia
There will be something wrong that you.
Alona
Do not think about it. What else? I can't Think now. But you. I know that if I feed you.
Adriana
Something, you will have something to say. Yeah.
Olivia
I was so complimented of your garlic noodles, huh?
Adriana
Yes. But you still have critiques. You can enjoy it, but you have critiques. And you know that this is a welcoming place to express them.
Alona
I know, but, guys, I literally called.
Olivia
You the next day to tell you how good your curry was. No, no, I think I'm upset because, like, I hate when people do that to me. So I'm, like, really upset at myself that I've done that.
Adriana
We're not taking it personally.
Olivia
We're not mad at all. Do you know what I mean?
Alona
We're not mad at it.
Olivia
I try to be as complimentary as possible, because when I cook for people, that's awesome.
Adriana
You think I don't shut the fuck up? When you gave me that pasta dish and I said, no, I fucking always go for lamb in here.
Olivia
You also didn't like the dumpling. No, that was funky. Olivia, that was for you and I.
Adriana
That was strong.
Alona
The curry one.
Adriana
It was like. You know how your tomka soup that you get is so strong? Like, pow. In your face.
Alona
I loved that.
Adriana
It was, like, so crazy. I was like, did we take a concentrate and just put it in?
Olivia
I watered that shit down.
Alona
Olivia, the thing is, you are such a good cook. That's why. So, like, anything that I make, you can make better. Like, mom's does the same thing when she tastes something of mine. She's gonna say, you can do this better. Cause you're just a great cook. She's making us buffalo chicken dip tonight, so. Adriana. I are.
Olivia
And she's gonna say, no, it's gonna be bad. Now that you've said, I'm such a good cook, it's gonna be bad tonight.
Adriana
Accidentally, it's kinda hard to mess that one up.
Alona
You got it.
Olivia
Who knows? Damn. Okay, well, anything else, we'd win a medal. Come on. Alona would win a medal for being an absolute madness.
Adriana
I was about to say for going silent.
Alona
For going silent.
Olivia
Sometimes she just silent and side eyes like this. And hitting you with one these of these.
Alona
Oh.
Adriana
But also.
Olivia
Oh, she's got trouble.
Adriana
You're winning a medal for steak and potatoes, dude. Y.
Alona
I just thought about something that you do that I don't like. Hold on. That's so.
Adriana
That's just a crazy sentence.
Alona
Hold on.
Olivia
You think on that. Alona's also going gold and not reading text messages that I send her.
Alona
Oh, yeah. I give her all the. I am always. I'm Always shocked at something, and she's like, this, sent to you a week ago. I did not know. I get a lot of things wrong because I don't ever re. Read what she says. Hold on. What is it that you do recently.
Olivia
That'S really been grinding?
Adriana
Was it my singing?
Alona
That's what he tried, you guys.
Adriana
Adriana doesn't shut that shot, but rich, coming from you. So Olivia and I were in her car yesterday, and what were we singing? Oh, boots. That's my ego boost. Singing that in the car. We step into her apartment. I sing one line.
Alona
She goes, enough.
Olivia
Here's the. No, no, here's the deal. Just.
Alona
I give her full reign to do that.
Olivia
No, because in my car, we're driving, and we're being obnoxious and loud. We're going, Booth. That's my e. We're being so loud. She steps into my apartment with that same.
Adriana
No, it wasn't the same level. It was. It was slightly quieter.
Alona
Adriana, she.
Olivia
Like I've said before, she has a song in her heart, and she's gonna make it everybody's problem.
Adriana
Yeah.
Alona
Yeah.
Olivia
Okay.
Adriana
Actually very mean about it. Sometimes I am not. When she came over for dinner the first night when I stayed at alone, I was just singing in the kitchen, and she just goes, that's something I haven't missed.
Alona
That's kind of funny, dude. That's kind of funny.
Olivia
And then also, I was being funny. I didn't say it mean like that.
Adriana
But, like, it came from, like, a place of truth. And I know that.
Olivia
Well, yeah, all jokes are truth, but I. That's why I said it in a funny way.
Adriana
It's so mean. And then alone, I was like, you do sing a lot. She. She sings, too.
Olivia
She does. But there's something like. You are always singing. I sing a lot, too. Even after I critiqued you for that. I then was singing in the living room.
Alona
Do I sing in my house?
Olivia
That's me.
Alona
Me.
Olivia
We all be singing.
Adriana
You'll be singing.
Olivia
Singing, too.
Alona
Well, maybe because my space and.
Adriana
Sorry. That I feel welcome in your space, and I want to sing.
Alona
You're right. You're right.
Olivia
Okay.
Alona
What was it?
Olivia
What were you gonna say about.
Alona
Tell us.
Olivia
Is it really mean?
Adriana
And that's why you don't want to share it.
Alona
It was along the lines of remember when the know it all thing. It was along the lines when we told you. You sometimes are know it all.
Adriana
Don't think she's gonna cry.
Olivia
You gonna cry?
Alona
Are you gonna cry? Are you actually gonna cry?
Olivia
Don't she did look like it first. She is gonna cry, hire me.
Alona
No, it was something along the lines of the. The know it all thing.
Adriana
And I know that, and that's fine. And you ask me for things, so that's true.
Olivia
And she do be knowing. You do be knowing things. You are very knowledgeable.
Alona
I don't like this game anyway.
Olivia
In a very sister way. We could have been like, I love that your hair. You get a gold medal. And having shiny hair. Instead we were like, ah, yeah, I got something to fucking say.
Alona
Is there anything else you want to air out now go, you loudmouth bitch. Oh, Adriana. She has ajohn.
Adriana
Has one. Olivia, you need to get haircuts more frequently. You have very fragile hair, and getting one every eight weeks or something does not cut it for your hair.
Olivia
Eight weeks, bitch. I go years.
Adriana
I know. You need to get them more. Even now you need a haircut that's fucking up.
Alona
Really?
Adriana
Even now? Yes. I was looking at it yesterday and.
Alona
I could see the white.
Olivia
I'm gonna tuck this in my sweater really quick.
Alona
Guys, I need you to tell me when you hate my jeans.
Adriana
You've got really good jeans.
Alona
No, I know, but there's sometimes when I wear some jeans and I'm unsure about it and I need you to tell me, hey, I hate that.
Adriana
The ones where it's my shoe buttons.
Alona
As the zipper with my shoestring.
Adriana
Yeah, maybe. I love those jeans. Like, it's really cool. But the buttons, sometimes when you sit down, you can see them too much.
Alona
They spread open. Interesting.
Adriana
Thank you.
Olivia
Is this the drawstring one? The new ones?
Alona
Yeah. It is biased.
Olivia
I like those. The way they sit.
Adriana
I like them. I think you should still wear them, but be aware of the zip.
Alona
Okay, I hear you.
Adriana
Non zip.
Olivia
Okay.
Adriana
And I've got something to say about myself. Guys, I've been experimenting with curling my hair more, and there have been some fails. Explicitly the Becca episode where one side of my hair was completely straight and.
Alona
The other was so curled.
Adriana
I'm working through it. We're getting somewhere. I just need to brush it out more. Or don't brush out one side as much. So that's. That's something about me.
Alona
I thought about what I don't like.
Adriana
Okay, please share.
Alona
You know what it is. Oh. When we are playing pickleball, you do very well.
Olivia
You do very badly at taking advice or coaching. She's not very coachable.
Adriana
No, I'm coachable. I'm not coachable from you guys because.
Olivia
I don't like being A big athlete.
Adriana
Because it's like, I want to be on the same level as you. So, like, knowing that I'm not and knowing that you're observing me pisses me off. And also, you guys were babying me too much in that. And I was like, just shut the up.
Alona
I will say you were holding your racket up like that the whole time. That's kooky.
Adriana
I'm sorry.
Alona
And I tried to tell you, and I was.
Adriana
But I was like, you guys were then also then trying to compensate and just be so supportive. And I was like, this is so fake. I need you to not be like, good job. I made, like, one big move.
Alona
Everyone's like, adriana, I'm gonna kill someone. Okay, okay, okay. That makes sense. Fine.
Adriana
But, like, I know that. And I was just like, I was not in a good space for the pickleball.
Olivia
And I was mad then because Alona abandoned us to go play with everybody else.
Alona
That's because.
Olivia
And then it was just me, Adriana, and, like, a random person we had and alone is off.
Alona
Like, yo, Jo. Me and Joanne. Yeah, she's like, 75, maybe 80 something. She was really hitting those things.
Adriana
She was a shark.
Olivia
She could.
Alona
Well, I just get competitive. And I was like, I needed to get it out.
Olivia
She needed to get it out.
Adriana
I'm sorry that I'm not great at pickleball.
Alona
No, I. I think if you were to listen to just some of the things I was going to give you, you guys, I was hearing.
Adriana
But, like, the thing is, is I was overwhelmed because it was you, it was Tanelan, it was Olivia, and then it was mom, and I was like, I hear you kind of rich coming from that one over there.
Alona
Why? She actually got pretty good. Good. I will say.
Adriana
I know, but I just couldn't deal with it from everyone because I was like, I also just need to, like, learn how to do it. I'm not going to get it from everyone telling me everything.
Alona
Fine. Okay, Heard that's. And that's saying I can do better as well.
Olivia
What else can I do?
Alona
You got a lot.
Olivia
Start now.
Adriana
You have to slow down on Amazon. Return.
Alona
That is crazy.
Adriana
Olivia.
Olivia
I really don't return that much.
Adriana
Your Halloween costume.
Alona
That was kooky for how much?
Olivia
Yeah, not actually.
Adriana
I actually have three versions of wigs. You were doing this like, you. You get a lot of. For safety and then return it.
Olivia
There's stuff that I don't wear. Yeah, yeah.
Adriana
And I'm. But that's so much environmental waste from the packaging. The Sending it back. You don't know if they're restocking it.
Olivia
But the thing with Amazon is you don't know if it's gonna fit or.
Adriana
Work because it's all I know. So I think that you should go to a more reliable site then like what?
Alona
I don't know.
Adriana
You could go to like spraypaintt shirts.com or something, period. You just. You tendency to over buy and then return.
Olivia
Alona's got one. Hold on. Let's hear it. No, we were talking about this the other night when I said you're very stubborn. How so?
Alona
She will again. On a long line of stubborn women. Olivia's coming up. She will only go to one Pilates woman, like, and she only teaches classes two days a week because she is amazing. Shout out, Bridget. She is amazing. But Olivia will only do that one. So if Bridget isn't teaching, she won't go.
Olivia
But you've only known this from this time. In other area eras of my life, I have gone to a lot of places around. But right now I've not been in la.
Adriana
Now you're stubborn.
Alona
Now you're stubborn.
Olivia
You're getting like, here. So I only want what I like.
Alona
And who else is like the Mina.
Olivia
Kumar mom and my Lily deling.
Alona
Yeah, Lily Bincom.
Olivia
Not that bad.
Adriana
Okay.
Olivia
I got back on another app to do try other classes, so. Okay, give me more.
Adriana
I don't think.
Olivia
I don't.
Adriana
I think we're gonna hear about this later.
Olivia
Oh, no, I'm really fine.
Adriana
Alona, I think you need to start speaking more for, like, what you want. I think sometimes you're very concerned about what other people want. And you know that, like, obviously you have the means to help it or something. So like, you put yourself through discomfort for their comfort.
Alona
Hmm.
Olivia
Which isn't fun for us afterwards.
Alona
Oh, well, yeah, I just have trouble because, like, I don't want to miss out on things that you want to do. I just don't have a lot of time. And actually I was thinking about this. Like, my form of fun enjoyment is going to the gym and like getting to make lunch and then hanging out, maybe going on a walk. So that is also what hinders me at times is because that is what I consider fun. Whereas you guys are like, let's go out and do something like. Like Mexico City. Like, Olivia took us to Universal the other day and like, that is Olivia form of fun. It's just not my form of fun. But I don't want to stop her from going to that or like Experiencing that. And I. I almost. And there's. There's times, though, when I think I could just be like, no, you guys go. But then a lot of. Sometimes you're like, no, we won't. We're not gonna do without you. But I actually prefer if you guys would just do without me and not think of me for those.
Olivia
Right. I think for me, it's like, I want you to experience the fun that we have, too, and I want you to be a part of the memories. Like, Mexico City, especially. Like, we left there with so many memories. You know, it was kooky. It was a lot, but it was like, we're gonna remember that for forever.
Alona
Oh, yeah.
Olivia
You know, and, like, universal is just something that's been on my bucket list for all of us for years. Because, like, I.
Adriana
You weren't getting out.
Olivia
That was fine.
Alona
That was fun. I was just like, yeah.
Olivia
And that one is like, I noticed you having fun. And then for me, it was like. Because I. Mom was like, how was it?
Alona
Like, how was today?
Olivia
I was like, alona.
Alona
She.
Olivia
You know, her energy while there was. I could be here.
Adriana
I don't have to be very much.
Olivia
Instead of just, like, subscribing to it and, like, letting herself do it. But then, because I'm a crazy person who likes to watch people enjoying things that I enjoy, we're on actual roller coasters, and I'm like, this. Watching for her reactions the whole time, because I love to watch people experiencing it. And she's got, like, the biggest grin on her face, like, she's doing all this stuff. And then we get off to, like, whatever you guys want to do next.
Alona
Okay. I didn't have any need to do, like. I was like, yeah, we can do this.
Olivia
But I'm literally leaving. I'm like, has everyone felt their fair share of magic today? Like, are we okay to go? Like, are we. We can. We can do another rip around. It's like, whatever I do. I'm sure you had fun because I dragged you out here today. Like, so. Yeah. So, yeah, I guess it is like, the honesty is just like. But then I know that you also don't want to miss out on stuff, so. Yeah, I feel that way for you too. Where I'm like, I know she doesn't want to do it, but I don't want her to miss out on it, so she's got to come with us, and she's just got to suck it the fuck up.
Adriana
I'm always talking to alone behind the scenes, and I'm like, you know, you don't have to. I know. Olivia just. She's excited, but, like, you need to, like, say something if you love seeing parks.
Alona
No, universe. I was like, yeah, that's cool. But I hear you. I just think it's very hard to say no to things when you guys are involved. And it could be something that you guys want to do. So I can be better, but I don't see myself being that much better if, like, it's your guys' who want to do something.
Olivia
I think I struggle with it because I'm someone who. If you like something and you're showing it to me, I will be all in. Like, I'm. I'm so fucking there. You know what I mean? To the nth degree, like, too much. So, like, what I talk about, I'm burning myself up to, like, give this thing light, you know? So when I don't receive that back from people is when I feel like, well, what the fuck? You know? Like, that's me.
Adriana
You look at your phone when you're watching a movie. She's showing you, like, so rude.
Olivia
That's the rudest thing you can do. I don't know. That's me. So shoot, guys, I think we should all hold hands after this. We can group hug. I think this was beautiful. Group therapy with everybody in the audience.
Alona
Yeah. I actually feel fine. Is anyone okay holding? I feel absolutely fine holding on to anything. Are you okay?
Adriana
No. I feel like you didn't tell me much.
Alona
You know, it all doesn't listen or isn't coachable.
Olivia
Sings.
Alona
Sings way too much.
Olivia
You've gotten better at it. But navigating your own emotions and talking yourself through things can be better. You're very quick to be, like, frustrated at yourself or a situation, and you let that eat you up, and quickly.
Adriana
We gotta talk about the skinny face.
Alona
Oh, that's funny. I sometimes just like, I. I would consider myself an honest person, but I'm also just like, yeah, no, that's not right.
Olivia
Or that's what's great about alone. She's very black or white.
Alona
Very black and white. So we are talking. You share the story. Sorry, you go.
Adriana
So Olivia was just talking about that. She was, like, looking at some old photos of herself, and she was like, that was like, when I was really skinny, like, I was in a skinny face face. And she was like, just kind of like, da, da, da, da. And I was like, then alone. I was talking about a skinny face she had, and I was like, have I ever had a skinny face? Alona Goes, no.
Olivia
She doesn't just go, no. She goes, no, no.
Adriana
I was like, oh, this was okay. The too spicy chickpea curry.
Olivia
Everyone should know.
Alona
That's because Aldrana and I have the same body.
Adriana
Shut the. No, we have the same, like, foundation. We used to. You can't say that anymore. When you were, like, in high school.
Alona
Yeah.
Adriana
Alona, I can't fit into some of your jeans. We don't have the same body. You weigh more than me. You weigh more than me. But you look so much skinnier than me.
Alona
Okay, yes, we have the same foundations of a body.
Adriana
Yeah, but I treat my body differently than yours. You know, the bones are good.
Alona
Good.
Olivia
The rest don't matter.
Adriana
Anyway.
Olivia
I was just like, it's true.
Adriana
I've never had a skinny face, but.
Alona
I was kind of like, you don't.
Adriana
Want to think about it?
Alona
I didn't know what to think about it. I knew it.
Adriana
I was like, hm, so only pudgy and pudgier.
Alona
Cool.
Adriana
Only more to love and a little.
Olivia
Bit more to love. There you go. Period.
Alona
No, because. What did I say that again? We had the same body and we never through high school, went through that. You know, you and I were always the bigger girl through high school, through college, I would say it only was until I got to professional sports, where by the privilege of working out for six hours a day, you can get much leaner. But you and I have always kind of been. Whereas Olivia, I don't know if she's able to lock in, if she has a serious mental problem, but she can. Like, she's can lose weight at times. Whereas age, for John and I, that's not something it's easier for us to do.
Adriana
Sticking around.
Alona
Six. Six on us.
Olivia
I've always fluctuated. Like, I, like, just have different eras of my life. I talk about this. I go up and down and, like, when I saw a picture, I'm like, wow, I was in a skinny era there. It wasn't something that I was purposefully doing. It was like. It was. I just moved to Los Angeles. I didn't have a car yet. I was walking everywhere and walking to buses, and then from the bus to wherever I was walking. I was living alone for, like, the first time and ever. And so, like, I was eating only what I felt I needed. You know what I mean?
Alona
So it's like.
Olivia
And I happen to be in a tighter era of my life, but I wasn't ever seeking it out. But I can lock in, like, when I want to feel a bit like, healthier.
Alona
But back to the emotions thing.
Adriana
Yes, I know. I'm working on that.
Alona
Yeah, she can be quick to stop.
Olivia
Yeah.
Alona
Yeah.
Adriana
Well, that's. That's more of an overwhelm thing.
Olivia
That's what I'm saying, though. Like, being able to talk yourself through that and, like, having to be, like, present in your body and your brain when that kind of thing happens to, like, best. Better compartmentalize those emotions.
Adriana
Feel like we didn't really get into the psychology of you guys, but that's fine.
Olivia
Well, I mean, there's no psychology behind your food sucking. Sorry. That's just how that works.
Alona
The psychology of my moods might also be what you were just saying about me doing things for others.
Adriana
Yeah, sorry. We did get into that. That's on me.
Olivia
That's.
Alona
That might be it. And I think I do. I get quiet because it. To me, it's like protecting from being mean or protecting from saying things that are rude.
Adriana
And that's when I want not quiet, but I need you to be quiet or I'm gonna get mean, which I'm working on. I know you don't say mean things.
Olivia
Yeah, you don't say mean.
Adriana
Well, that's because I'm over. I'm like. I guess sometimes they're talking about, like, sometimes when I get very, like, angry or just. I'm like, I can't hear anything. Like, if you. If someone is trying to comfort me, to be like, yeah, like, no, it's gonna be okay. And I'm like, shut up. I can't. Everything you say is gonna make it worse. Yeah. So that's when I'm like, I need quiet, or else I'm afraid I'll, like, lash out.
Olivia
And then by doing that, you're lashing out.
Alona
Guys, don't worry about us. Also, seriously, we're gonna have buff chick dip tonight, and we're gonna.
Olivia
It.
Alona
We're gonna chill.
Adriana
We're gonna chill.
Alona
We actually do this quite a bit where we say what every person needs to be better at.
Olivia
It's actually kind of cathartic. It's healing. It's nice to be, like, kind of perceived in that way and kind of told what's up?
Alona
And around people who can be very honest with you, like, to be checked.
Olivia
Like, not a lot of people have that. There's people in your life where you're like, nobody's checked you ever.
Adriana
Yeah.
Olivia
You know, it's good to have siblings for that reason. Reason.
Adriana
You see how free we were with that? Yeah. Maybe I got more. I'll share later.
Olivia
Yeah, no, I'm like, tell me more. I got to be better as a person.
Adriana
I don't think it's any. Well, the Amazon.
Alona
I'll think of some stuff and write it down for you.
Olivia
I'll write it down.
Alona
Everybody think of stuff and we'll come.
Olivia
Back, we'll come back into microphones for.
Alona
Everyone into microphone so everyone can know what we all need to be better at.
Adriana
Right?
Alona
Well, thank you so much for coming over. Don't forget your medals. See you next week. And remember, to be dunked on and to be told things that you're bad at is to be loved.
Olivia
To be loved.
Alona
Okay.
Olivia
And I feel the love today. Happy Valentine's Day to all of you.
Adriana
And thank you so much for coming over to the House of Mar, a wave original.
Alona
Be sure to watch and subscribe on YouTube and listen wherever you get your podcast.
Olivia
Plus follow the show on social media at House of Mar for clips and behind the scenes content. See you next time.
Alona
Go get a haircut.
Olivia
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Date: February 10, 2026
Host: Wave
Guests: Ilona Maher (Olympic rugby player), Olivia Maher (“Girl Dinner” creator), Adrianna “Dre Baby” Maher (human rights advocate)
The Maher sisters reunite, this time from Milan during the Olympics, for a vibrant and hilarious episode filled with sisterly banter, Olympic behind-the-scenes, internet food trends, honest reflections about body image, competitiveness, and their classic tradition—calling each other out. If you love candid conversations, self-deprecating humor, and real talk about being women in sports and media, this is a gold-medal episode.
Notable Quotes:
Ilona on Milan:
"We're in Milan at the Olympics. Be jealous." (01:36)
Adriana on Olympic athlete types:
“There’s definitely gonna be a lot of hot athletes. So maybe not Italian, but hot athlete siblings, too.” (02:24)
The sisters dissect viral food trends, especially the Biscoff “cheesecake” involving Greek yogurt and Biscoff cookies (04:27).
Adriana and Olivia are hilariously skeptical:
The conversation expands to other trends, personal favorites (soy eggs, Emily Mariko’s salmon bowls), and “girl dinner” habits.
Deeper undercurrents of body image and intuitive eating run through, with Ilona sharing her recent experience getting “body comped.”
(46:22, 52:09, 54:27)
Notable Quotes:
“You mustn’t eat that off the floor kind of thing.” (13:21)
“To be dunked on and to be told things that you’re bad at is to be loved.” (68:01)
“When you get her to try something, you make her find something wrong with it.” (46:29 – Ilona about Olivia)
Notable Quotes:
“Elite athletes, they probably suck. Exactly... Their literal job is to be competitive. Like, why can't women be competitive?” (29:05–29:12 – Olivia)
“What was so special about rugby is that we had the same ball. So it really did piss me off… If it’s not broke, don’t fix it.” (34:29–35:08 – Ilona)
Tone: Irreverent, loving, authentic, humorous, insightful, unfiltered.
Takeaways:
“To be dunked on and to be told things that you’re bad at is to be loved.”
(68:01 – Ilona)
For listeners (and family) looking for warmth, laughter, and an occasional roast, there’s truly no place like the House of Maher.
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