WNBA Salary Caps, Christian Rock & Going Commando

Summary

Podcast Summary: House of Maher – Episode: WNBA Salary Caps, Christian Rock & Going Commando

Release Date: July 8, 2025
A Wave Original by Wave Originals

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1. Celebrating Alona’s ESPYS Nomination

Timestamp: [00:45 - 03:22]

The episode kicks off with a heartfelt congratulations to Ilona Maher for her first ESPYS nomination. Alona expresses her excitement and gratitude, highlighting the significance of being recognized as the best breakthrough athlete after seven years of professional play.

Alona: "This is my Grammys. This is your ESPYs." [02:37]

Olivia emphasizes the importance of voting for Alona, encouraging listeners to support her nomination through multiple devices.

Olivia: "No one is more deserving because you've been breaking in and breaking through for so many years." [02:19]

Adrianna adds perspective by comparing the award to the best new artist categories, underscoring that Alona’s nomination represents a significant breakthrough moment rather than a fresh start.

Adrianna: "It's not that you're just a brand new rugby player. It's just like you've had a breakthrough moment." [02:35]

The sisters discuss the uniqueness of a rugby player being nominated, a first for the sport, and Alona shares her anticipation of attending the event and connecting with like-minded individuals.

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2. Deep Dive into the WNBA Salary Cap

Timestamp: [03:54 - 07:39]

The conversation shifts to the WNBA's recent announcement to expand to 18 teams by 2030, with new franchises in Cleveland, Detroit, and Philadelphia. Alona and Adrianna express enthusiasm about the growth of the league and its impact on providing more opportunities for female athletes.

Alona: "There's so cutthroat because we have drafts, but barely enough for the amazing players that are coming out." [04:28]

Alona highlights the current salary cap in the WNBA, which is set at $250K, and discusses the ongoing negotiations to increase it to $1 million. She contrasts this with the NBA's astronomical salary cap of $154 million, pointing out the disparity in earnings between male and female athletes.

Alona: "It's crazy. Caitlin is making 78K, but she's bringing in 36 million to her city." [05:18]

The sisters lament the limited financial rewards in the WNBA, emphasizing that players often rely on endorsements and side deals to supplement their income.

Adrianna: "We're barely making any money in our sport, so all of our money is in deals and we're just wheeling and dealing." [09:26]

They advocate for better pay and longer seasons in the WNBA to match the league's growing popularity and the players' contributions.

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3. Experiences with Christian Rock and Uber Drivers

Timestamp: [09:48 - 14:02]

Transitioning from sports, the sisters delve into their amusing encounters with Christian rock music, particularly in public transport. Olivia shares a story about an Uber driver blasting Christian rock, which led to a humorous yet tense situation.

Olivia: "The driver was not a good driver. We were going to need Jesus to take the wheel on this one." [10:12]

Alona discusses the production quality of Christian music and how some songs appeal to them on platforms like TikTok, even if they don't actively listen to the genre.

Alona: "Some of those songs are real good. I’d be listening to them on TikTok." [12:03]

They reflect on how music, including Christian rock, can enhance or disrupt experiences, emphasizing the importance of respecting passengers' preferences in shared spaces.

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4. Restaurant Tipping Culture and Self-Service Dining

Timestamp: [20:31 - 27:42]

The discussion moves to the evolving landscape of dining, particularly in Los Angeles, where self-service models are becoming more prevalent. Alona and Olivia critique the shift towards ordering at counters, obtaining numbers, and self-serving food and drinks.

Olivia: "If you want to be a restaurant, be a restaurant. Sit me down for the price of food." [21:18]

They highlight the challenges of the current tipping system, especially in self-service establishments where the quality of service is inconsistent, leading to frustration over mandatory tipping surveys without visible service.

Alona: "They're adding a 4% charge for health insurance and still asking for tips? That's ridiculous." [23:57]

Adrianna shares her experience at Newark Airport, where self-service kiosks prompted tipping without any visible service staff, leading to confusion and reluctance to tip.

Adrianna: "I hit zero so fast." [28:00]

The sisters debate the fairness of tipping in environments where traditional service elements are absent, pondering whether service charges should be integrated into the prices instead.

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5. Spotlight on K-Pop Group Cat's Eye and Inclusivity

Timestamp: [32:12 - 37:42]

The conversation shifts to the rising K-Pop group Cat's Eye, celebrated for their dance prowess and inclusive messaging. The sisters commend the group for allowing members to express their true selves, including two members who have come out as bisexual—an uncommon occurrence in the K-Pop industry.

Adrianna: "Two of the members have come out as bisexual, and we haven't really seen that in K-Pop." [37:06]

Alona appreciates how Cat's Eye maintains their authenticity and American personalities despite being a K-Pop group, avoiding the overly controlled image typical in the genre.

Alona: "They just like being themselves, which I really like." [36:22]

Olivia praises the group for their supportive lyrics and social media engagement, making their music not only catchy but also meaningful.

Adrianna: "God bless the tea girls and all the in between girls." [35:15]

The sisters discuss the broader implications of Cat's Eye's inclusivity, recognizing their effort to support transgender and non-binary individuals through their music.

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6. Alona’s Upcoming Documentary with Hello Sunshine

Timestamp: [37:49 - 46:24]

Alona shares details about her upcoming documentary series in collaboration with Hello Sunshine. The project aims to provide an intimate look into her life beyond rugby, capturing personal moments, family interactions, and the pressures of being a female athlete.

Alona: "There's a story here that I want people to know... a female athlete story." [38:05]

Olivia discusses her role in the documentary, focusing on capturing Alona's authentic experiences and the balance between her athletic career and personal life.

Olivia: "It's going to be a premium sports documentary... there's so much about me that people don't know." [39:38]

Alona expresses her mixed feelings of excitement and nervousness about exposing her vulnerabilities to the public, fearing judgment but also valuing the opportunity to share her truth.

Alona: "People are going to see this online, and I want to make sure I'm putting the sport on a good light." [44:24]

Adrianna reassures Alona, emphasizing the importance of sharing her story and the potential impact it could have on others who relate to her experiences.

Adrianna: "There will be people that relate, and it will be so thankful for you for talking about your truth." [46:07]

The sisters discuss future projects and the potential for multiple seasons, highlighting the ongoing narrative of Alona’s journey as an athlete and individual.

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7. Personal Updates and Lighthearted Moments

Timestamp: [46:24 - 57:00]

The sisters wrap up the episode with personal updates and playful interactions. Olivia shares her plans to officiate a wedding and seeks tips for crafting the perfect ceremony, while Alona discusses her preparation for the upcoming World Cup and her current life in San Diego.

Olivia: "I keep crying my eyes out. I want to do as great a job as I can." [51:23]

Alona talks about balancing team-building activities with personal time during the World Cup camp, expressing both excitement and apprehension about the intense schedule ahead.

Alona: "I'm trying to find that balance, right. Like team building versus needing my time away." [48:44]

The episode concludes with a fun game segment where the sisters play "Fair or Flaw," discussing everyday pet peeves and humorous situations, adding a lighthearted end to a discussion-heavy episode.

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Notable Quotes:

• Alona on ESPN’s Nomination:
  "This is my Grammys. This is your ESPYs." [02:37]

• Olivia on Voting:
  "No one is more deserving because you've been breaking in and breaking through for so many years." [02:19]

• Alona on WNBA Salary:
  "It's crazy. Caitlin is making 78K, but she's bringing in 36 million to her city." [05:18]

• Adrianna on Inclusivity in K-Pop:
  "Two of the members have come out as bisexual, and we haven't really seen that in K-Pop." [37:06]

• Alona on Documentary:
  "There's a story here that I want people to know... a female athlete story." [38:05]

• Olivia on Hands-On Support:
  "I will be there to hold her while she is going through this all and give her my support." [48:22]

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Conclusion

In this episode of House of Maher, the Maher sisters navigate a diverse array of topics, from the intricate challenges of professional women’s sports and salary disparities to the nuances of personal identity in the K-Pop industry. Their candid discussions about personal experiences, upcoming projects, and everyday frustrations are enriched with humor and heartfelt insights. The episode not only highlights Alona Maher's athletic achievements and her journey towards an intimate documentary but also showcases the sisters' unwavering support for each other and their commitment to advocacy and inclusivity.

Whether addressing the financial struggles within the WNBA, sharing amusing encounters with music preferences, critiquing modern dining practices, or celebrating progressive movements in K-Pop, House of Maher offers a multifaceted look into the lives of three accomplished women. Their blend of seriousness and levity makes the podcast both informative and entertaining, providing listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the issues at hand and the personal stories that drive their passions.

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Transcript

[Alona]

Christian music is elevated. Some of those songs are real good. I mean I, I be listening to them. I actually don't listen to them, but I only listen to them on TikTok. One that I really like is I still bless you in the middle of the storm. In the middle.

[Olivia]

Oh, I know this one.

[Alona]

I still bless you.

[Olivia]

And I'm like, woo.

[Alona]

Welcome to House of Mar A Wave original. We have a few house rules.

[Olivia]

Girls are magic.

[Adrianna]

Reading is hot and so are you.

[Alona]

Make sure to subscribe to us on YouTube so you can watch our beautiful faces on your, whatever screens you're using. I am the middle sister, Alona.

[Olivia]

I'm the eldest daughter, Olivia and I'm.

[Adrianna]

The youngest, Adrianna Mar. And this week a huge congratulations to Ilona for your first ESPYS nomination.

[Alona]

Thank you. Thank you. Very exciting.

[Olivia]

Huge dude. How did it feel when you heard?

[Alona]

I was like, oh, that's chill. That's really cool. It's funny. It's for best breakthrough athlete which, you know, I've been playing this for seven years now professionally, but you know, it takes, sometimes it takes a lot to break through and I'm happy I was able to do it in my, you know, seventh year playing this. But there have been some great athletes who've gotten in the past so really excited I've been voting and getting everybody to vote. So we'll see. I mean I, I'm hoping to go and to, to get, to just be in the room with some also great.

[Olivia]

People getting dressed up, show off, show up and show off. What do we think?

[Alona]

That's all I like to do. You know, I like, I like getting dressed up. I like, you know, even though it's for sports, bringing the femininity, the beauty to it and, and you know, I'm excited. I love being in those spaces. I love getting to meet people who are also like minded, you know, who've worked hard and I think this is the first time rugby's ever been nominated in anything. And to be a rugby, a women's rugby player, how kind of cool is that, you know?

[Olivia]

And so you can vote. The link will be in our social bios to go vote for Alona. You can vote every day across multiple devices. So I'm gonna need everybody to lock in and do that because lock in. No one is more deserving because you've. That's so true about like you breaking through. You've been breaking in and breaking through for so many years, but it's that same thing. It's like it takes many years to Be an overnight success.

[Adrianna]

I kind of think of it as, like, best new artist at the Grandmason. No one is a new artist. Like, the whole thing of Sabrina Carpent getting nominated after she just had, what, five, six albums? It's. It's not that you're just a brand new rugby player. It's just like you've had a breakthrough moment.

[Alona]

True.

[Adrianna]

Huge breakthrough moment. True.

[Alona]

This is my Grammys.

[Adrianna]

This is your Grammys. Your ESPYs.

[Olivia]

Are you gonna, like, have a speech prepared or how does that work for you?

[Alona]

I don't really know what's happening, to be honest. I think I will maybe, but then I get worried that if you have a speech prepared, you won't get it.

[Olivia]

You know, you're jinxing yourself.

[Alona]

You're jinxing yourself. But also, I think that I just would have some points that I'd really want to hit, and so I would have at least some. Some bullet points out there that I make sure to mention. I love it.

[Olivia]

Be prepared, but not overly prepared.

[Alona]

Yeah. Maybe not, like, respectful of it. Yes. Well, I'm not one to ever just, like, read word for word either, so I. It'd just be bullets so that I can kind of, like, say things, but also be myself up there.

[Olivia]

You're very good. Just like, off the. Off the brain and. Yeah, I do that a lot when I have meetings for you where, you know, like, ahead of, you know, the panels that you did in France and everything, they wanted to make sure you were prepped and you knew and I was like, honestly, don't tell her the questions. She's better when she's just ripping away with whatever comes to her brain. So I think that's kind of fun. I think juju Watkins won this last year.

[Alona]

Yes, I think so.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Right. Okay. So this is a very cool award.

[Adrianna]

Good company for whoever wins.

[Alona]

Yes.

[Adrianna]

Which hopefully you will win. I'm in there.

[Alona]

I'm voting.

[Adrianna]

Voting, vote.

[Olivia]

The WNBA just announced that it's going to be expanding to 18 teams by 2030, with new franchises in Cleveland, Detroit, and Philadelphia. How exciting.

[Alona]

Yes.

[Adrianna]

I'm so pumped.

[Olivia]

Are you?

[Adrianna]

I love it. I. I'm not.

[Olivia]

Okay.

[Adrianna]

I don't watch wnba. I don't watch a lot of sports voluntarily besides Alonas, But I love to follow and, like, see things online. So, like, watching, you know, having this one league succeed, I think it's a.

[Alona]

Huge thing for women, which is great because there's not. There's, like, barely any teams now. So it's so cutthroat because, like, we all every year the WNBA has their drafts, you know, but barely. I mean, with only how many teams, there are only what, 12 players, like make a bench or something. There's not enough for these amazing players that are coming out of it. So good that there's more and expanding and also like having great players all over the country, you know, and they.

[Adrianna]

Have such short seasons, the wnba. So hopefully this can also lengthen the season.

[Alona]

That's a good point.

[Adrianna]

The players are also negotiating for a higher salary. Do you guys know what Caitlin Clark's current WNBA salary is?

[Alona]

I actually do think. I know. I think it's like 75K. Even though she brings in something like 36 million to her city.

[Adrianna]

What you're about there at 78.

[Alona]

78. There you go. Yeah.

[Adrianna]

And do you know what the NBA salary cap is?

[Olivia]

The NBA has a salary cap?

[Adrianna]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Oh, I didn't know that. I just thought.

[Alona]

But so Clayton Clark's current NW salary cap is for a rookie. So her rookie salary cap is like 78.

[Adrianna]

Well, this is her second, third season.

[Alona]

I think there's like your rookie for three seasons or something like that.

[Olivia]

Okay.

[Adrianna]

I mean, but still, what do you think the NBA salary cap is?

[Alona]

So it's different than like the WNBA are negotiating to increase their salary cap, which is currently only 250k. That's crazy. So like Caitlin is making 78k. The most that she can make after she's a rookie is 250k. They're trying to negotiate it so that it can be a million. The NBA salary cap. I don't know what a rookie NBA salary cap is, but I imagine the NBA salary cap is. What's LeBron getting paid? 300 million. What? What's. What is it?

[Adrianna]

It's $154 million.

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Adrianna]

Which is astronomical. And the women are getting pennies in comparison.

[Alona]

Oh my goodness.

[Adrianna]

And I would like to give some perspective. I was making that at a non profit.

[Olivia]

Right?

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Adrianna]

She is getting non profit wages for.

[Olivia]

Bringing in that amount of money to that area, to that team, to that. But then she obviously has outside endorsements. Right. Like that's where she's making her money is through her other partnerships and deals. Much the same way that you do. Alona.

[Alona]

Yeah. I mean she's the same as me. You know, we don't make much money from our sport. I think that what's crazy is that at a time probably that 78k was actually pretty good. But the explosive rise of the WNBA from even like three years ago, four years ago, like it's it hasn't risen to match that. That's been the issue, that they're selling out stadiums, they're getting the fans and she's bringing in so much money and yet because of the salary cap, she could only make 78K. Like, that's. That's crazy. And she definitely deserves more. But even that's kind of. See, they're only going to move it up to. So people like Asia Wilson are only making 250k. Like, they need to raise that to a million. Even then you're like, wow, I feel like they're worth more. Which is like soccer players now are getting, you know, money like that.

[Olivia]

So they're currently trying to raise the WNBA salary cap to a million. Yeah, okay, okay.

[Alona]

From 250K.

[Olivia]

But it'll still be different for rookies. Is that what you were saying?

[Alona]

Yeah, well, I imagine. I don't know if they're going to keep the rookie thing, but our agent Ran can speak on it more. When you're a rookie, you come in and you're only allowed to, like, have a certain amount of pay. There's a cap for how much you're allowed to get paid. That's why Caitlin Clark's there. Kayla Clark should be getting the 250k, the max, but since she's considered a rookie still.

[Adrianna]

And why do they have the caps for rookies? Is that to protect other players or.

[Alona]

Probably. I mean, probably to protect salary capture. Just such an interesting thing, right? I mean, we see it everywhere, that they're kind of there in the league that I played for in England and whatnot. I don't really know the reason why rookies are specific, but I imagine it's so that they don't like, oh, well, you know, you spent one season because you were drafted to this team, you spent one season there. But we'll, we'll bring you over here for this amount of money. No, it's almost like maybe to get the players to be at their teams for a bit for those three years while they're rookie and then they can start negotiating for pay elsewhere and the New York Liberty can pay this much and then, you know, the Sparks can pay this much. I'm not sure. I think that'd be interesting to figure out. Cameron Brink, who is a. Another podcast host on Wave, she hosts Straight to Cam, is, you know, a WNBA player and I imagine she's on this sort of salary. So, like, kind of the same as me. We barely make any money in our sport, so all of our money is in deals, and we're just wheeling and dealing. I think Cameron Brink has done the most amount of partnerships of any WNBA athlete. Something like that. She has the most partnerships.

[Olivia]

Yeah, like deals and brands.

[Alona]

Like deals and dance. Yes. She's wheeling and dealing because they have to. She's only making. I don't. I don't know. She makes. She only making about 78k or less than that, you know, and she's. She has to work.

[Adrianna]

It's another job.

[Olivia]

It's what you talk about all the time. You can't just play your sport that you love and, like, make a living. You gotta. You gotta grind on the side as well. If that is not the thing. Well, if you guys have thoughts on, you know, salary cap and the expansion of the wnba, let us know in the comments what you think about all of it and what these women should actually be getting paid. All the money in the world.

[Adrianna]

All the money in the world they're worth. All right, well, let's touch some grass. Sometimes we take life a little too seriously. So this is our time to step back. Really get your fists in the grass. And, Olivia, I just saw that you posted a video when you were in an Uber and they were blasting Christian rock music. How you doing? How are you feeling about that?

[Olivia]

It was kind of funny because this actually happens to me a lot, where you clock it, where you're like, it's a good song. Like, that's. And then you're like, oh, hold up. And you realize it's religious music. But, I mean, we were raised Catholic, so we have a certain amount of, like, we know the church music in that way. Whereas I'm like, damn, if we were listening to that kind of music. That stuff bumps, you know? But, I mean, I made a video because the driver was not a good driver. And just like, strong starts, like strong stops. And my just kind of joke was like, yeah, no wonder he's blasting Christian rock music. We're going to need Jesus to take the wheel on this one. This is not okay. But I don't know. What do you guys think about that? Blasting Christian rock music? When you get into an Uber, you could ask them to turn it off for sure if you wanted. But what are your thoughts?

[Adrianna]

Sometimes you can't tell it's Christian music or religious music. That one song, and he picked me up and he turned me around. Love that I bumped that stuff. I wouldn't know.

[Alona]

You know who could be Christian music? Who's the guy that sings Ordinary?

[Adrianna]

Alex Warren.

[Alona]

Alex Warren. He could be Christian music.

[Olivia]

There's.

[Alona]

He's got a little bit of a.

[Olivia]

Rash to his voice.

[Alona]

There's a quality to his music, not just the sounds. Like, even ordinary. Like, I know it's about his wife, but you could. You could swing that in many ways. I think he has a future there as well, if he needed to bring.

[Olivia]

Us in that direction.

[Alona]

There's money in Christian music. Okay. There's money in a lot of things. Who was a. Caleb. Caleb. What's his name? Caleb Herron. He's the funny comedian. He did a recent thing where he was like, if you see me do a Christian comedy, mind your business. Just know I'm getting my bag.

[Adrianna]

If y' all ever see me take a turn into Christian comedy.

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Alona]

Keep your mouth shut.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Alona]

I'm buying a private jet. There's a lot of money in it. There's a lot of money in the church and whatnot. So I just thought that was funny. I'm like, these. But the. They're.

[Olivia]

Matt.

[Alona]

They're. The Christian music is elevated. Some of those songs are real good. I mean, I. I'd be listening to them.

[Olivia]

Production quality.

[Alona]

It's production quality.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Alona]

I actually don't listen to them, but I only listen to them on Tick Tock. You know, on Tick Tock, when they come up like the. The one you had. What's my one? That one that I really like is I still bless you in the middle of the storm.

[Olivia]

Oh, I know this one.

[Alona]

I still bless you.

[Olivia]

And I'm like.

[Alona]

Oh, my gosh. Amen.

[Olivia]

You know, that's so funny. I just love the one that I put on that video, which is the. My God did not fail. That seems like that's what I think.

[Alona]

God, I get where I did not fail. Okay, okay. Five testimony.

[Olivia]

Yeah. I mean, that. That'll make you.

[Alona]

That'll make. That'll make you religious a little bit.

[Olivia]

These. These Christian people are like, God first. It's like, that's just good live music, though.

[Alona]

They're listening to that. I would, too. When we were in church, we had.

[Olivia]

One lady at an organization, right. Hitting that vibrato. She was hitting that.

[Adrianna]

She's like that lady banging on the bus. That is how she's saying.

[Alona]

And she was so loud, you know? Yeah. And so that's like. I almost think it is interesting. Music can, like, help you with. Music is a powerful thing. It helps you with your faith. It helps you with how you think about things. Like, I really imagine. I wonder if in church one time. You remember in church, in Catholic church, we. One Time had people who were almost singing too upbeat and they made them switch. Do you remember that?

[Olivia]

No.

[Alona]

Somebody was singing. I think it was like that one family was singing something and then they switched back to that one woman. Oh, I know exactly who you're talking about. Drama.

[Adrianna]

Yes. Because they had like the little egg shakers and like, they were finally bringing something back.

[Alona]

That was so good. I loved. I was like, why are we really bumping in here? And then we went back.

[Olivia]

You see people talk about online that were, like, raised super Christian or, you know, in certain denominations of the church where they were like, I thought that I was so religious. I thought I was so in tune with, you know, God and my religion. But then I went to a concert for the first time and I realized I just like live music. Like, collective effervescence, like, that's what was making them feel so spiritual, was just connection to the people around them enjoying live music. Like the most human thing that you can do. It was. It wasn't about the religion. It was like, oh, I just like live music, like in a community around. Around that.

[Adrianna]

Like, if we were raised in a. Another church that had more lively music, I probably would have stayed around longer.

[Olivia]

I mean, I do. I do got to bring up the all time banger, which is John 3.

[Alona]

John 3. I knew.

[Olivia]

He gave it. Anyway, you guys, where. This is too much now. Basically, what I wanted to ask on is touching some grass with, you know, high, like, car service.

[Adrianna]

Shared.

[Olivia]

Shared car service. Drivers blasting like, Christian music or like conservative radio.

[Adrianna]

When we were in England and we got into that Uber and the Uber driver had the news up to like, volume 70 and it was just like Trump and some other, like, BBC presenter and we're like, could you turn it off? And he, like, got so angry at us. Oh, no. You even said, can you just turn it down?

[Olivia]

We're like, hey, can you just turn it down? Like, we just had a long day of recording and everything. And like, we hired this car for the service of taking us from one place to another. And we were like, hey, sorry, sir, could you turn it down or turn it off? And he was like, I was listening to this before you came. What? Hello. You are providing a service, though. I was like, whoa. And I was like, oh, okay. Could you just turn it down? He, like, doubles down and is like, could you? He was like, I was listening to this before you came here. And at that point, you are dropping us off where we live. You're about to find out where we operate, and you're talking to us this way. And we were four women inside of a car for big broad. And we felt so small, so gross, so scared. Like, what do you do in that situation? Nothing, I guess, but I hate that so much. You can report it to the company, but, like, it's just so scary.

[Alona]

I imagine. I'm not sure etiquette, but I imagine the etiquette is like, if you're providing that service for the passenger, they're paying you and they don't want to listen to something or just want you to turn something down. You should list. You should do it. I. But then I'm like, oh, well, it's your car, but you're choosing to ride Uber or whatever it is you're choosing to do Uber. I believe that they should listen to what your requests are. I personally didn't want to hear Trump say shit on my ride home. We got very silent after that. It was kind of interesting. We still got silent because, like, there's nothing, you know, as. As women times. We also, like, don't want to anger because who knows who this man could be? Who knows if he's going to all of a sudden, you know, act out. So we have to be almost. You almost get quiet.

[Olivia]

Like, what?

[Alona]

I've been like, I wish if there was a man.

[Olivia]

And he'd been like, no, turn this off. But we were like.

[Adrianna]

And if there was a man in there, he probably would have.

[Olivia]

He would respected that. So it's so extra messed up about it, but it's like, touch some grass, please. Like, you are blench your car. One made us feel unsafe with what he was listening to. Like, right. Like, you know, and then by reacting that way and doubling down was, like, so scary. So like, just like, connect with reality and touch some grass as a person providing a service in that way. Just like, don't scare the women you.

[Alona]

Are working with now. Say, they're blasting an audiobook. What are you doing?

[Olivia]

What's the quality of the book? What's the genre? I guess I don't know.

[Adrianna]

I'm like, you're jumping into a story, then I don't know what's happening.

[Alona]

Right? That's too much.

[Olivia]

That's too much.

[Alona]

One time I was in a car and this Uber driver went really kind of kooky on me, and he was talking about, like, it's all simulation. It's all blah, blah, blah. And I was like, what is happening? And again, you get, like, scared. You're just like, no, for sure, man. Thousand percent. This is a simulation. The. The Devil. I thought, yeah, he'd be working, you.

[Olivia]

Know, I've never heard anything more true. But you are like, don't murder me.

[Alona]

Yeah, it's interesting. I think you have to. It's almost self preservation. You have to just kind of like get to where you're going in the chillest way possible, which isn't fun, but who knows how people are?

[Olivia]

I mean, one of my top tips is, you know, I never put my actual home address when I'm booking a ride. I do a couple of buildings over or whatever just to. Even if they're perfectly fine, who knows what kind of driver I'm gonna get? But just to be so safe, like I. So that's a hot tip. Just do a couple addresses over and then I'll get out and wait for the driver to drive away before I start heading in any specific direction. Sometimes they're like lingering to, you know, get their next ride and I like, start freaking out. So it's just me in the street. Like, God, where was that address they wanted me to go to? As if it's not my house, like two doors down. You know what I mean? I'm just like, ah, man, just. I wish my friend would text me back. Just standing on the sidewalk waiting for them to go. But that's a hot tip. Never put your, like, actual address in there. This episode is brought to you by opill, the first over the counter daily birth control pill available in the U.S. did you know that nearly half of the pregnancies in the US each year are unintended? On top of that, about a third of women face barriers to accessing prescription birth control.

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[Olivia]

I wanted to bring up another thing which would be something I never really encountered until I moved to Los Angeles, California, which is restaurants that during their daytime service, have you wait in line to order, get a number and then sit down. Have you come in contact with these?

[Alona]

Yes, I have, but mostly in L. A. Actually there's. I feel like the ones I've been to have been in L. A. There's a lot I've been to Pine and Crane. Yep, that's all time.

[Olivia]

Mm.

[Alona]

And a few others. Yeah. And then they. You put in your thing and then they're like. And just tip here. I'm like, there's that funny comedian. I know I'm bringing up so many people on this pod, but that funny comedian. I think Robbie is her name.

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Alona]

She's like, you want me to tip 20% on this? @ this point, I work here.

[Adrianna]

What's your take?

[Olivia]

If I have to go up to.

[Alona]

Order, I'm not tipping. Restaurants are all the self sort. They're all self served now. 0% 0 at this point. I work there. We all know tipping in America is crazy, but then you're. It's just like, okay, well I, I had to do all this and you still want that.

[Olivia]

And for me it's like, you want to be a restaurant, be a restaurant. Sit me down for the price of food in LA as well, like the price of a sandwich, let alone like, God forbid, you add avocado to it, but you want me to order that myself and then, you know, put tip on that and everything. But then, because I guess my biggest thing is if you want to be a restaurant, be a restaurant. Because if I'm waiting in line to order and then I have to get my own water from the big dispenser, a cafeteria, you're not a restaurant. And if you want to be a restaurant, if you want to serve restaurant prices, be a restaurant. Give me a waiter. And like I just went to one yesterday, which is what's on the top of my mind. And the person name.

[Alona]

Drag them, Drag them.

[Olivia]

Highly likely. Highland Park.

[Alona]

Was it, was it good food?

[Olivia]

The breakfast burrito had whole cherry tomatoes in it, which did throw me like. That was not a good sensory experience. I was literally like picking them. It was a business lunch too. And I was like, sorry about this. And I'm like plucking them out one by one and they're like exploding in my fingers as I put them down on the plane.

[Adrianna]

Were they cooked or raw?

[Olivia]

They were warm because they were inside of this breakfast burrito.

[Alona]

Jail, Straight to jail, right to jail.

[Olivia]

And then what I'm saying is I'm waiting in line in the hot sun. Nobody's coming along to bring menus. Like, you know, so they want you to walk up to the front of the line, grab a menu, come back to your spot in line. But anyway, it's like for me, the biggest thing is then, okay, I don't have a waiter. So when something is wrong, there's no one to turn to be like, hey, so sorry, could I actually get that ketchup that I asked for? When in our case, the person I was dining with got served the wrong drink and then the person was just gone. They dropped it and they were gone. And we were like, oh, no. You know, and like her drink actually went to somebody else who then was getting up at the same time to go back to the counter and they had to switch drinks. Ah, what are we doing? What are we doing here? We're tipping on that.

[Alona]

It's a cafeteria.

[Olivia]

That's my, that's my thoughts.

[Alona]

There's also like, there's a restaurant, we went to it. LA and a couple others. Sorry, LA, roasting you today. But they're. They add like a 4% charge to, to checks. And the reasoning is we add this 4% charge because we want our employees to have health insurance. So I got to. I'm paying for their health insurance, so do that. So how about you help them out now? So, and they're like, you can totally take this 4% off. Oh, now Carol can't get her dental work done.

[Olivia]

Yeah, God forbid.

[Adrianna]

Just include it into the price of.

[Alona]

The items they put it in.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Adrianna]

And I'm like, you're making us feel like a bad people. Like just incl. It's part of running a business is providing insurance to your full time employees. Why is that not a business cost? Why is it an additional fee?

[Olivia]

I want to say we all also have such strong opinions on this because we all have worked in the service industry. I've been a waitress so many times over. I've been a bartender. I've been all up and in that grind, I, I enjoyed giving good service. I was like, it was a fun puzzle to hack each table. The people you get to know like being good at it, remembering orders. Like, I took pride in that work. So I took pride in the tips that I made from that. That is a lot for people though. You are working for tips. So that's. That is a lot. That's, you know, that's. It's a bit of a mental game. But then on the flip side of that, like this double edged sword when we were trying to eat in France, they don't work for tips. So they're not going to seat you because they're going to make their money from their salary whether you're eating there or not. So the restaurant culture was very interesting. It was very French as alone. And I kept saying, but they would have all these open tables and be like, we're booked, sorry. And you'd walk by like an hour later still completely empty. You know what I mean? But because they're not working for tips is my thought. They don't have to turn over tables to make their living. They're just kind of like, well, sorry, you don't need to be here. So I think it's, you know, there's no right answer. But I guess I prefer just like an attentive service that I am then happy to pay for.

[Alona]

Okay, fine. Order at a counter. I think it's, I think I have to be okay with. It's not tipping 2015, is it $5? Is that crazy?

[Olivia]

Like ordering a drink in a bar? You're paying for ordering a drink at a bar.

[Alona]

That's even. I'm like $1. But if it's at. We're at, you know, Pine and Crane. Is it when it turned around 20, is it putting in your own $6? You know, that's where like I think you have to figure it out. And also just be okay with that. It's a whole thing.

[Adrianna]

And I can't trust some of my friends to pay for things. Like if we're getting shots at a bar and you're putting down 20 on a, on a singular shot, they're like.

[Olivia]

Pouring vodka into a shot glass.

[Adrianna]

Yes. And I'm like. Because I've also had some place where you get some crazy shot prices, right? And then I get the Venmo the next morning and I'm like, how is this $40 for one shot?

[Olivia]

What happened?

[Adrianna]

Because they're tipping 20%.

[Alona]

Yeah. I also wonder, you know, when you get wine places like wine can be 80 bucks, 140 to 200 bucks a bottle.

[Olivia]

For a bottle. Yeah.

[Alona]

And so why am I tipping 20% on that? You just opened that for me, did you? Were you there smashing the grapes with.

[Olivia]

Your feet and because that bottle, why am I giving you that?

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

What? That bottle is retail.

[Alona]

So even though we're just getting three plates, because I got a bottle of wine, it brings the total up to 200 plus bucks. So then I'm tipping 40 bucks. But it's like, actually, the wine should. I feel like that shouldn't be in it.

[Adrianna]

And we recognize that it is a flawed system and it is not the service provider's faults.

[Olivia]

No, right answer.

[Adrianna]

Do tip.

[Olivia]

We. I'd be talking.

[Adrianna]

We like to.

[Olivia]

I don't want to be judged. I do tip.

[Alona]

I do tip. But the one. I'm happy about it. Yeah.

[Adrianna]

No.

[Olivia]

And I will say, like the people at the kind of cafeteria restaurants in LA that, you know, you do get to the counter, they are so lovely, you know, they are like, how are you? As if you're old friends. It's, I think, very la, you know? And you're like, oh, my God, have we met before? They're so nice.

[Alona]

So good.

[Olivia]

It's so good to see you like that. So it is always a lovely experience. But it's just the restaurant experience as a whole is not complete in that way for me.

[Adrianna]

I have one last note on this. I was at Newark Airport the other day. Not the other day. It was a few months ago. And I was grabbing a chapstick from, like, a kiosk thing. The way it asked me if I would like to tip the service workers. I looked around, not a single soul in there.

[Olivia]

You were like, there's gotta be. Oh, was it self service?

[Adrianna]

It was self service. I was checking myself out.

[Olivia]

Oh, no.

[Adrianna]

And I was like, who's this go. Who's this for?

[Olivia]

You're like, I'm being pranked right now.

[Adrianna]

I hit zero so fast.

[Alona]

I was like, what are you talking about?

[Olivia]

Well, ladies, let's take a little visit to the Coffee Clatch, see what's percolating in pop culture.

[Adrianna]

Meryl Streep, Anne Hathaway, Emily Blunt, Stanley Tucci are coming back for Devil Wears Prada, too.

[Alona]

Wow. They really got them all there.

[Olivia]

They got them all. And is it coincidence that this comes after we hear about Anna Wintour's, you know, stepping down from the one position?

[Alona]

Wasn't this already in making when this was happening? When was it? Was this a. Two days ago? Who put this out?

[Adrianna]

It was probably just great timing.

[Olivia]

Who put this out? Who's responsible? It's very recent news.

[Alona]

Can't wait. I'll be watching.

[Olivia]

You Love Devil Wears Prada 1, right?

[Alona]

I haven't watched it often. It's not one of my favorites.

[Adrianna]

I love it.

[Alona]

I. I do enjoy Anne Athwai. I think her great work is, you know, Princess Diaries and Ella Enchanted to be sure.

[Olivia]

I love Devil Wears Prada. I quote it all the time. All the time. I think just especially, why is no one ready?

[Adrianna]

Where are the belts for this?

[Alona]

Why is no one ready?

[Olivia]

That's my favorite. I do that all the time. And then also, by all means, move at a glacial pace. You know how that thrills me. I love that one.

[Adrianna]

I like florals for spring.

[Olivia]

Groundbreaking. Question for the group. Who is the villain in that movie?

[Adrianna]

The boyfriend?

[Olivia]

The correct answer is her chef boyfriend, who's a chef and yet serves her the most burnt grilled cheese you've ever seen in your freaking life. And is evil the entire movie.

[Adrianna]

Oh, you can have a career, but she can't.

[Alona]

Was she also, though, working too much?

[Olivia]

But it was like she was following her dreams, so. And she was still being an attentive friend, I'm pretty sure. Or was she giving them gifts maybe? We all got to rewatch this movie before the second one comes out.

[Adrianna]

But I will be in the theaters. I will actually buy a ticket to watch us in the theaters. Oh, feels like a good one.

[Olivia]

You know me, I got my movie subscription. I'm. I'm in that theater. I went last week because I gotta get my money's worth.

[Adrianna]

You already lost it. AMC over for like, four months there.

[Olivia]

No, I'm making up for it now. Don't worry.

[Alona]

I want to see the new Fantastic Four.

[Olivia]

Well, we loved the Fantastic Four from many years ago. The Silver Surfer movie. Remember that one Jessica album?

[Alona]

Did we love that? Are you saying stuff right now?

[Olivia]

I love. I watch that movie all the time.

[Adrianna]

I watch that a lot.

[Olivia]

I watched that a lot. Just very sexy people.

[Adrianna]

I remember it.

[Alona]

Oh, I don't. I gotta watch that. I'll watch that tonight then. Let me put that on my list.

[Adrianna]

And then they, like, switch.

[Alona]

When was the last time you think you watched that?

[Olivia]

I mean, bunch of years ago, but I watched it a lot growing up. Chris.

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Evans.

[Alona]

Yeah, right.

[Olivia]

Chris Evans. Captain America. What are you doing here? Yeah, why. Why are you here? And now you're Captain America. Whatever.

[Alona]

Why haven't we watched that recently? That's weird.

[Olivia]

Let's. Let's. We should watch it again.

[Alona]

Yeah, I'll watch it tonight. I'll turn it on.

[Olivia]

The new one comes out, she'll turn it on. The trailer does look very cool. The aesthetics of the movie look very cool. It's. It's marvel. I'm locked in, you know, I'm sad.

[Adrianna]

Alona, you just watch K Pop Demon Hunters, right?

[Alona]

That was really fun. I highly suggest it. Really good. It was like Everything was quirky. Well, well thought out. Songs were great. Singing was great.

[Olivia]

Question.

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

What is K Pop? Demon Slay Hunters.

[Alona]

Wouldn't you like to know? How do you watch it? I told you to watch it. It's quirky and funny.

[Olivia]

You know, I'm watching Love island right now. I cannot be clocked in on anything else. So what is this? Is it like a. Like a game show?

[Adrianna]

The world will know you as pop stars.

[Alona]

You will be Pop Star Hunters. It's a movie. Animated, Very cool. Animation, I will say, like halfway between that sort of anime with classic animation. Like not fully anime. I don't want to give the storyline away, but they're Demon Hunters and K Pop Stars.

[Adrianna]

The title really says it all, Drew.

[Olivia]

Okay. Yeah, that's a bit on the nose, but all right. The songs are good.

[Alona]

Yeah, it's a movie.

[Olivia]

Okay, then I can lock in and watch that, no problem.

[Alona]

No, it's very fun. Yeah.

[Olivia]

Okay. Fun. Is there music in it? Obviously, because it's K pop.

[Alona]

Yes, of course, of course.

[Olivia]

Speaking about Korean pop music. Korean pop music adjacent Cat's Eye. They're coming out with a bunch of new music. What are our thoughts? Yes. Hands off, Gabriella.

[Adrianna]

I love Cat's Eye. Do I stream their music? Not really. Am I all over the socials?

[Alona]

Absolutely.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Alona]

I have been streaming Game Boy. Oh, and Gabriella. I like Game Boy a lot.

[Olivia]

Gabriella is such an earworm. Like, from the first time I listened to that, I was like, oh, that's gonna be with me. I really like that one.

[Adrianna]

Personally, I'm not over. Gnarly.

[Olivia]

Not over it.

[Alona]

Love that. Okay.

[Olivia]

It was tough at first and now I. I get it.

[Alona]

I get it.

[Olivia]

I get it.

[Adrianna]

Took a few listens now.

[Olivia]

Yeah. The dance is so cool. They are. They do do an amazing job on social media. They're very on it. They get it with the dancing, the, you know, the single cams or the following one person throughout the dancing and whatnot and get to know them. Do you have a favorite member?

[Adrianna]

Megan. Really love that girl down. Really? She's weird, but I love her.

[Olivia]

I really enjoy. Is her name Daniela?

[Adrianna]

Yeah.

[Alona]

Yes, yes, Yes.

[Olivia]

I love her.

[Adrianna]

That girl can dance.

[Alona]

She's a great dancer. I like her facial expressions, too.

[Olivia]

She does a great facial. Like she does a great performance while dancing. And she's an unreal dancer.

[Alona]

Yeah, she's very cool. Do they have a song called Mean Girls off their album ep?

[Adrianna]

Yes, just released.

[Alona]

What's the episode?

[Adrianna]

You know, an EP is kind of like almost like a mini Album where it's oftentimes I think artists put out eps as a way to like, delay an album. So when they get more fans from all the EPs and their debut album does better. I don't. With all the EPs everywhere, I'm like, put out an album.

[Olivia]

Right, Okay.

[Alona]

I asked about the Mean girls thing because didn't they have a member that you really like? Olivia. Olivia. What's her name? Who she's now Adela. She's her own artist. Wasn't, like Mean Girls a thing from that too?

[Adrianna]

I'd love to explain this, please. Adele has a song in which she.

[Alona]

Says, like.

[Adrianna]

Because she got labeled a mean girl after the documentary. And I think it might be. Oh, just like kind of a coincidence because in the Cat's Eyes Mean Girl song, they're talking about all sorts of girls. Like mean girls, queen girls.

[Alona]

Oh, right, right.

[Adrianna]

Every. So it's like how every woman, no matter what their label as is like, beautiful and worthy. I particularly love they've got a line, God bless the tea girls and all the in between girls. So they're really just like. It's such like an all encompassing song for women. It's so wonderful.

[Olivia]

Oh, it's an outright, like, you know, support of trans people.

[Adrianna]

Yes, absolutely.

[Alona]

Wait, what do they say? God bless the tea girls.

[Adrianna]

God bless the tea girls and all the in between girls. Tea for transgender girls.

[Alona]

Oh, nice.

[Adrianna]

In between. Non binary. Whatever you'd like. You know, people who don't fit into one thing.

[Olivia]

Are they getting backlash for that?

[Adrianna]

I don't. I haven't seen any. But the writer or producer of the song has shared online that while he was trying to sell it, a lot of artists wanted it, but they wanted to change that line specifically to take it out and he refused to sell it to them.

[Alona]

I do like Cat's Eye in that they still. Because we grew up watching K pop and it's a very. K pop can be a very, like, produced. Like they have to all say the right things. They have to all act a certain way. And I've liked about Cat's Eye, like, even watching them just be themselves with each other. They just like, they like swear at each other, they joke with each other. They're still like being an American like themselves, which I really like. I was afraid that they'd be more controlled, kind of as we've seen in K pop, but I like that they're kind of still holding onto that and kind and being themselves. I enjoy that about them.

[Olivia]

I think they're doing a good job of Leaning into that, you know, and capitalizing on the girls personalities as individuals. Whereas I think maybe I'm wrong, but when people start to have like, their favorites in traditional K pop groups where they're so regimented and they still have to play a part, it's because the fans are finding the tiniest moments of these. Of these K pop idols personality on, you know, paparazzi cams or little things they've said on videos and they find those little bits and they run with it and they become their favorite idols. Whereas I think they're allowing the cat's eye girlies to just be themselves and people get to be fully, you know, in this group and getting to know these women.

[Alona]

Yeah, I enjoy it.

[Adrianna]

What's huge is that two of the members have come out as bisexual and we haven't really seen that in K pop.

[Alona]

Exciting.

[Adrianna]

It is a, like, Christian country and even like for the straight idols, like, you can't even be seen dating.

[Alona]

Right. It is so, right.

[Adrianna]

Tight. It is. I don't know the right word, but I'm so excited that these girls are able to express themselves.

[Alona]

And they're doing a ton of promotion in Korea though, too, because they're going on all, like the shows, like all the. The sbs, Gayo de Joan or whatever it's called. Like, they're.

[Olivia]

They're doing it as well.

[Alona]

Yeah, they're doing it.

[Olivia]

The variety shows. Right.

[Alona]

Yeah. Right. Very good.

[Adrianna]

Good for them.

[Alona]

Very excited.

[Adrianna]

Love them.

[Alona]

They're changing the narrative and they're dancing really well doing it.

[Olivia]

I think this will just have to lead into a bigger K pop conversation.

[Adrianna]

In one episode, if you want that.

[Olivia]

Let's transition into a little tea time, hear what's going on in our lives. Ilona, you have a docu series that has been announced with. Hello, sunshine. Congratulations, darling.

[Alona]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Olivia]

And you are currently. I mean, we. I am. I'm on this project as well. And we are currently talking to distributors and having conversations on where this docu series will live. I think it's been a bit of an interesting process, but it's been very cool to have these conversations and kind of talk about what we're doing with this show and the story that we're telling, what's been shot and what we want to shoot. Yeah. To kind of get them excited for it.

[Alona]

Yeah. It's been a lot of meetings, you know, going around just kind of telling people, like, what's, I think, why our documentary is going to be something, you know, people are going to want to watch and why it should be on their, their program. It's been fun because every time I kind of get to, to share a little bit more, I feel like you get more comfortable as you do. And it's been about, you know, not like selling myself, but like, there's a story here that I want people to know and there's a story that I think people are going to love to see. And so I hope other people, you know, brands see that. And I think they will. I think they're there. It's going to be. I am. What I. What I imagine is it's going to be really fun documentary and people are going to want to watch it. There's so much about me that people don't know or that I just don't share. I mean, I am open book in many ways, but I think there's been a lot, especially this year, that has happened that it's like I haven't put into words or I haven't really shared online. So I'm, I'm excited to, you know, get that out there for some because I think especially being an athlete, we're thought of, you know, in certain ways and this is just another way to tell a female athlete story.

[Olivia]

And I think it's going to be such a fun story because it's going to be a premium sports documentary for sure. We're getting that sports angle. But you are so much more than just the rugby because you have to be. So I think in this we're getting so much wonderful texture and about you and your life and not the drama outside, but just like what it means to be you and the day to day and the. It's gonna be fun. It's just not gonna be like sports and the grind and there'll be a lot of that. But it is also fun and the families involved and us being goofy.

[Alona]

And you were recently looking through like old home clips for it, huh?

[Olivia]

It was a very fun process because I want to get them. I've been shooting for the past couple years now since Tokyo, I've shot a bunch of horizontal footage, 4k just on my phone of you when you're doing cool things. Because in my brain I've always been like, either someone's making a documentary of Alona or I'll do it. So I gotta have the clips for it. So I've been shooting footage for years now. And so I have it all. On this drive that, you know, with hello Sunshine, I was like, hey, guys, guess what? I got stuff. Because I've been shooting it either Whether I was going to make this film or we're going to have an unreal partner like you.

[Adrianna]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

And so I was doing that. But then another part of that was I wanted to give them home video footage. I think that's really important to your story. We were just home in Vermont, recording, and you had the cameras with you in your childhood bedroom. And, you know, you were crying, you were going through beautiful things and you were just kind of talking and telling stories. And I think it's going to be this really beautiful touch point on who Alona is and who she was to get to where you are now. So I wanted to make sure that they had actual video footage and not just photos of that time of little and a little lona alongside her two sisters, alongside her mom and dad and the community that kind of, you know, built you.

[Alona]

Right.

[Olivia]

So I was going through about like six hours of footage. Maybe it's five, about five hours of footage. And I cut it down to moments of you because there was a lot of other stuff. Alona never wanted to wear underwear as a child. I think it was a sensory thing. So gotta cut around that. Where she just was like, dress on, no underwear, going down, a slide leg spread. You know what I mean? You gotta, I gotta cut around that.

[Alona]

And I'll be real. That's me right now as well.

[Olivia]

That's her.

[Alona]

I'm wearing a long dress, not wearing underwear. Okay. Little Alona knew. What's up?

[Olivia]

What's that Euphoria audio? That's like Maddie knew who she was from a very young age. That's Alona.

[Alona]

That's me.

[Olivia]

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[Adrianna]

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[Olivia]

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[Alona]

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[Olivia]

Was a very cool process to go and see all of us so little. And there's these clips of me being like, these are my sisters and there's Alona going, that's my sister and that's my sister. And we're just so little. And to be doing, seeing what we're doing today as sisters, it was very cool on video once again. But that was also an emotional process to watch us so little and where we were and just like seeing us as just girls in the world for the first time, figuring out with each other by each other's sides. Playing in the living room. And I'm so glad that mom and dad had the forethought to just. There's a whole segment of dad just rolling on us playing in the living room, you know, jumping on the couches, running around you, you've tied. We have a scarf that we're like an expensive scarf. Dad keeps going, that's expensive. Okay? Like, it's this expensive scarf of mom's that we're playing as if one of us is a dog. And we're walking us through the living room, you know, and dad's just kind of being like, yeah, you know what? They're having fun. It's all good. So it's very special moments that I was able to cut down for the documentary.

[Alona]

I am interested, though, because I think this will be. I wonder if it'll feel like invasive, vulnerable. Like, will it. Will it feel that way when it comes out? I'm like, ooh, you know, they're. Everyone's gonna see that. Everyone's gonna, you know, judge me or know all these feelings and they're gonna get to make their opinions about how I feel right now. I do get nervous about that because I have been feeling some ways this year that I'm not. That I'm not proud of, but I feel very torn about. And so people are going to see this online, and I want to make sure, like, I'm putting, you know, I'm. I'm going to be put in a good light because that I think I'm a good person. But, like, also I want to put the sport on a good light. That's my thing is, you know, this documentary is because we're leading into the world cup, so I want to make sure the sport's being shown well, no matter what, you know, how. How I'm feeling right now. So I am afraid that it's gonna be a very, like, gonna show everything. Yeah, I don't. It's not gonna show everything, but it will. People will get it. To really see an inside look about me and I. That does. Doesn't worry me so much, but it is interesting.

[Olivia]

I think that's a incredibly human reaction and thing to be nervous about. But I almost think too, that it is special that you have allowed these cameras in to tell this story of how you've seen. Been feeling torn because that's incredibly human and that's what you're actually going through. And I think that we're capturing it in a very, like, sensitive way. So I think it's kind of cool to tell this story because it isn't just like. I don't know. I think there's a lot of cliches when it comes to sports stories, and I think you are your own story. And this is. I'm so excited that it's being told in this way, but that's so normal to be nervous.

[Alona]

Yeah, I. I'm going to be interested when we get to that point where we're like, you know, looking over the drafts and seeing how it is. But I do think I am excited also to just, like, watch it. And then later on, years from now, I'll show my kids and then show my grandkids, you know, I think it'll be cool.

[Olivia]

And then I want multiple seasons. Sorry. I want a Season 2, Season 3. There's more to be told about Alona Martin.

[Alona]

I think it will. I think what we are setting it up for. This is leading into that, you know, but. And then when I, you know, decide when I go back to play for L. A, like, that's a season there as well. To see somebody who's going for, hopefully their third Olympics and who had just an amazing last Olympics where they won a medal, that's. That's a story to tell. The pressure on there, the pressure I feel constantly, I think will be a whole other thing to. To really dive into.

[Adrianna]

I Think in this season and what you're filming, you're talking about something that's very nuanced, you know, And I think you've been describing it in that way where you're getting all the different angles. But I will say there are people who are just gonna, like, not even listen to it and just think what they want to think. But you've been putting in so much work and speaking so eloquently to, like, actually, like, describe what is going on and not just be like, you know, like. So it's. You're taking a risk by putting it out there. But I think it's a. A calculated one, and it's. It's your story, you know, like, you have a right to share it.

[Olivia]

And you're not the only person that feels like this, too. You know, there will be people that relate, and it will be so thankful for you for talking about your truth. And I'm excited for us to find the right partner to bring this story to the world with. Hello, sunshine. But on that, which will also be captured on the doc, you are entering World cup camp soon. And so with that, I would love to know, Adriana, how are you going to spend your time while Adriana's in camp?

[Adrianna]

I am going to the Hamptons, and I'm going to go watch Ilona play in DC And. Sorry. And I will be there to hold her while she is going through this all and give her my support.

[Alona]

Right, right, right. Yeah. I join. I joined World cup prep, July six, and it's about 10, 10, 12 weeks we'll be together. 10 12.

[Adrianna]

That's a daunting amount of time.

[Alona]

That's a daunting. I thought six weeks for pack four was daunting. I'm even more daunt.

[Adrianna]

It's 10 weeks away from home. Like, anything is going to be daunting with that amount of time. And you're playing a physical sport that's gonna be hard on the body and.

[Olivia]

The mental going into the world stage of rugby.

[Alona]

Yeah. Yeah. So 10 weeks. My. I've been doing a lot of workouts, and they're definitely bringing us in at more in shape. You know, it's like the workouts have been so tough, the running that I've been doing, so that because we don't have a lot of time together, we're not like other countries where they've been training consistently. We just come together for, you know, four weeks before the World cup, and then we have to go at it. So it's very much so going to Be a packed schedule. I mean it'll be. I think that's what's daunting is like I know we're going to be doing so much contact. I know we're going to be doing so much running and so much this and this and this. And there'll be like no breaks. And I just hope my body can take the hat. I am excited. I'm excited to get back with my teammates, get back with the girls. I love. I love, I love them. They've been great. I just like, I'm also somebody who maybe it's in my older age, but I'm not no longer that fresh eyed, like, oh my God, let's go do this together. Oh, we gotta go do team building. I'm like, I would rather sit in on my own and go out to dinner on my own. So I'm trying to find that balance, right. Of like team building versus needing my time away. Because it's gonna be we're together so much.

[Olivia]

But you have had now, which is revolutionary for you all new two weeks at home in San Diego.

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Oh, luxury. How's that been?

[Alona]

Dude? It's been lit. I have just been working out. I have been getting coffee. I've been going to this one gym that's kind of like a muscle gym. And I just go in there and I just like replace out arms for and I'm just with my dogs in there. I love it.

[Olivia]

I show them up like they're their warm up your workouts their warm up or wait your warm ups their workout. Is that what's happening?

[Alona]

Right, right, right. I don't know if I'm showing them up, but I have enjoyed wearing it's not too much clothing like showing my arms. And I think people, they're sometimes like, who the heck is that big lady? And I'm like, yeah, what's up, dog? It's been very nice. I love it. I love doing what I want to do. I'm trying to enjoy this time because it is gonna. I'm gonna be full go. It's been great. I love San Diego. I think it's just a great place. Gonna enjoy it while I'm here and then who knows where, you know, life will take me after the World cup or whatnot. Love it.

[Olivia]

Me, I'm gonna celebrate the fourth of July.

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Actually I'm just, I'm gonna be celebrating all of the people in this country that make America what it is, you know.

[Alona]

Okay.

[Olivia]

Gonna have myself gonna go to a bit of a pool party. Oh, nice and then a bit of a country bar in the evening.

[Alona]

So that's gonna be very fun.

[Olivia]

It's gonna be me. And then while you're in World cup camp, I will also be officiating a wedding, so getting lots of inspiration. And I keep looking up, like, ideas or other people's scripts and speeches on tik tok and whatnot, and I keep crying my eyes out. Like, I think it's so beautiful watching these videos. Like, these people, like, choosing to marry one another and, like, unite their lives. And I'm just like, what the hell? I don't know why, where all this emotion is coming from, but so I've been doing that. I want to do as great a job as I can. So if truly anybody watching this has any tips or tricks for me, please let me know. I am all ears. I am all open, but that'll be really good.

[Adrianna]

And if anyone needs an officiant, Olivia is ordained.

[Olivia]

I am ordained to officiate weddings. My rate is insane, though. You guys, I don't know if you can.

[Adrianna]

You can't afford her.

[Olivia]

You can't afford my services. But I speak very eloquently, I like to think so.

[Adrianna]

Sec Comms major, you let me know.

[Olivia]

I'll do your wedding.

[Alona]

I am intrigued to hear this, actually. So will it be recorded?

[Olivia]

Probably.

[Alona]

Probably.

[Olivia]

They'll have a videographer. But you guys will be my testing ground because. Can't wait. It's. I think it's to. It's supposed to be a surprise for the bride and groom.

[Alona]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Olivia]

You know, so I do need to test it on people.

[Alona]

So you can marry John and I.

[Olivia]

My two unmarried sisters. They will be the ones I am asking.

[Alona]

You had to say that. You had to say unmarried. That's crazy, dude.

[Adrianna]

I can say that right back to you.

[Olivia]

Oh, Mrs. 30, I'm married to the game. I'm married to the grind. Sorry, I'm. I'm in a committed relationship to the grind, so.

[Alona]

Right.

[Adrianna]

All right, ladies, would you like to play a little game of fair or Flag?

[Olivia]

Sure.

[Alona]

Hit us.

[Adrianna]

Let's Start playing music. TikToks. Any videos off of your phone in public. Loudly.

[Alona]

Flag. Flag. Flag. Flag.

[Olivia]

Giant flag. There's no reason for that, especially on planes.

[Alona]

If you do that on planes. Oh, and on the subway, I just.

[Olivia]

Had a person, like, two seats over from me on a plane just, like, playing their videos. Just, like, out loud.

[Alona]

Nightmare.

[Olivia]

Loudly, too. And nobody is, like, calling. What do you do? Do you flag down a host? Because I don't, like. I got to sit here with you the whole time. Do I be like, you're being rude, but you're being. How do people not see that they're being rude? Do they just think their experience is better and more important than everybody else's? Maybe shared laundry for getting clothing in a washer or driver for a long.

[Alona]

Period of time in the washer. That's a flag. First off, how could you even do that? It's not going to smell good. You need to move that quickly.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Alona]

Maybe in the dryer. It could be fair because you. Things got going on. But if it is shared flag in a way, because we're all trying to do our stuff.

[Adrianna]

Flag. And it. You're just hurting yourself because people are going to move it or it's going to get stinky.

[Alona]

How do you feel about people moving your laundry?

[Olivia]

Hate it.

[Adrianna]

I hate it. But again, it's. It's your own fault. I do think that there should be.

[Alona]

Like a buffer zone, right?

[Adrianna]

I set alarms.

[Alona]

Yeah, well, you guys are very good at your laundry. You guys set alarms and get there right when it's done.

[Olivia]

I say hate it because I hate other people touching mine because I have an alarm. Like you say, I'm on it and I am there. There's no reason. If it's because you're waiting by the thing for the buzzer to go off and then I'm there a minute later, you better be freaking for real. Don't touch my stuff. So, yeah, setting alarms for yourself, I mean, but like, then again, if you forget every once in a blue moon, that is so. Okay as well, but mostly flag.

[Adrianna]

All right, what about eating breakfast at 7:11 while traveling internationally?

[Alona]

Why would that be a flag? A hoe's got to save money.

[Olivia]

And 711 in other countries is like a cool experience to do.

[Alona]

Yeah, I don't think ever any. Even if it's a 711 here, you gotta eat something. A good thing. You're eating breakfast. Hell yeah.

[Adrianna]

Most important meal of the day. I would like to speak on 7Elevens and these videos of people. Please. The amount of unnecessary, like, plastic consumption from these seven elevens is crazy work. Like the ice cups and then. But you're getting a drink out of another, like, plastic cup. And I'm like, then what's the point? There's got to be a better system here. There's so much plastic. Okay, how about one more rehearsing conversations Fair.

[Alona]

What does that even mean?

[Adrianna]

Like, you know, you're gonna have, like a serious talk with someone and so you practice what you're gonna say.

[Alona]

Yeah, fair, fair.

[Olivia]

But then again sometimes I'm good off of like the top of the head like we talked about with Alona. Like sometimes it's better just to like go with the flow for me because then if I'm rehearsing too much then I'll be too in my head and I'm not actually thinking through the actual conversation that's happening in front of me because I'm thinking there's like points I got to hit.

[Adrianna]

I've written out scripts before.

[Olivia]

Whoa. For conversations.

[Alona]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Okay. So fair to you. Very fair to me. Fair.

[Adrianna]

Gorgeous. Thank you so much for coming over to the House of Mar wave original.

[Alona]

Be sure to watch and subscribe on YouTube and listen wherever you get your podcast.

[Olivia]

Plus follow the show on social media House of Mar for clips and behind the scenes content. Thanks for hanging out.

[Adrianna]

Thank you, thank you.