A Sound of Thunder LIVE! (Classic)

Summary

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How Did This Get Made? – "A Sound of Thunder" LIVE! (Classic)

Release Date: April 21, 2026
Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Guest: Neil Campbell
Location: Largo, Los Angeles

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Episode Overview

This live episode centers on the 2005 sci-fi film A Sound of Thunder, infamous for abysmal CGI, convoluted time travel logic, and questionable production choices. The hosts—along with guest Neil Campbell—dive deep into the film’s baffling narrative, laughable special effects, budget woes, and performances (particularly an impassive Ed Burns and scene-stealing Ben Kingsley). The panel gleefully skewers the movie’s plot holes, lack of logic, and the broader implications of its failures, all while riffing in classic HDTGM style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: The Premise of A Sound of Thunder

• [04:30-07:30] Paul recaps the plot: In 2055, a company called Time Safari offers rich clients the chance to time-travel and kill a T-Rex—over and over, somehow always returning to the same moment. Naturally, someone steps on a butterfly, causing catastrophic changes to the future ("shit goes so terribly wrong that it's like if we are this delicate, we're fucked." – Paul, 05:04).

2. Major Confusion: Time Travel Logic

• The hosts immediately question the basic premise:
  • Why does everyone on the tour go to the same exact moment in time? Shouldn’t they constantly run into themselves and other tour groups? ("They’re going back to the same point for every adventure... Why aren't they running into all the other people who’ve gone on this tour?" – Jason, 13:24).
  • The hosts highlight that ripples in time changes take effect in "waves," with the world shifting in delayed intervals, but this concept makes no scientific sense ("Why did it take 24 hours for the world to recover? ...The world would have started diverging immediately." – Jason, 15:27).
  • June questions whether killing a butterfly would instantly result in skyscrapers filled with catfish people.

3. CGI & Production Woes

• [22:30-24:06] Jason provides crucial context:
  • The movie was originally budgeted at $80 million, slashed to $30 million, and released with unfinished effects due to bankruptcy and a contractual obligation.
  • The result: laughably poor CGI—dinosaurs worse than Dinosaurs (the TV show), obvious green-screen use, and embarrassing future tech like clear moving boxes ("What's the future like? ...in the future, moving boxes will be clear." – Jason, 28:07).

4. Ed Burns' “Performance”

• Consistent theme: Ed Burns appears disengaged and emotionless regardless of what’s happening—whether his friends die, he witnesses monsters, or civilization collapses.
  • "He reacts as if you just gave him a slightly smaller piece of butter than he was expecting." – Jason (06:48)
  • Multiple examples are cited where Ed Burns underreacts to high-stakes moments, drawing comparison to being put on hold or ordering a latte.

5. Ben Kingsley’s Scene-Chewing Villain

• [37:11-39:06] The panel praises Ben Kingsley’s performance and wig, describing his energy as "channeling Robin Williams" and providing much-needed verve ("Ben Kingsley is doing, honestly, some of the best work of his career." – June, 37:18).

6. “The Waves” and Catfish People

• The group attempts (and fails) to follow the logic behind "time waves" that sequentially overwrite components of reality—first climate, then plants, then animals, then humans.
  • June – "I'm still trying to understand the waves...if evolution got fucked, why did I just wait?" (49:58)
  • Neil – "All of Act 2, the real villain is plants." (50:43)

7. Notable Plot Absurdities

• The supposedly advanced 2055 features outdated fashion and technology.
• The core business (Time Safari) is inexplicably a retail-style storefront.
• Logical paradoxes abound: multiple time tours to the same point, no government involvement, and inconsistent mutation effects (human-catfish hybrids living in regular buildings).
• "If you're paying for a five-minute adventure...that's shorter than a Disney World ride." – Jason, 52:32

8. Audience Q&A

• [62:45+] Audience questions add more holes:
  • Why doesn’t the volcano just kill the butterfly anyway?
  • The film’s dinosaur is historically inaccurate by 80 million years.
  • In the original Bradbury story, changes are societal (e.g., fascists take over the US), not fish mutants or time ripples.
  • Why do time waves respect city infrastructure but mutate people into catfish?

9. Second Opinions – Positive Online Reviews

• [70:38+] The hosts read outlandish 5-star reviews, including one (allegedly by "Pierce Bros.") celebrating the movie’s “phenomenological” role in cinema ("This movie was a movie. I loved it and it hit a real nice sweet spot for me in science fantasy." – Jason reading, 73:07).

10. Would They Recommend It?

• [76:52+] All panelists emphatically say "no," unless you want to marvel at disastrously bad CGI or inexplicable plot decisions: "Watch it for the CGI…but don’t watch the whole movie." (Neil, 77:09)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "This whole movie is cutscenes from a Sega CD game." – Jason (11:48)
• "The rules of the ecosystem made no sense...I just didn’t understand the rules." – June (28:59)
• "Every five minutes in this movie, something happens that should melt their brains." – Jason (43:50)
• "I do feel like a movie like this—it's like reverse Jaws…In Jaws they hid the shark—here, they show everything in daylight, blatantly." – Jason (44:01)
• On Ben Kingsley: "One outfit, same two sets. He's only here for 45 minutes because he's got a birthday party. But he brought it." – Jason (54:28)

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Important Timestamps

• 04:30 – Paul’s summary of the movie and time travel premise
• 13:12 – Jason & Neil tear into time travel paradox and tour logistics
• 22:30 – Jason exposes the CGI disaster and budget story
• 28:07 – Future “clear moving boxes” mocked
• 37:11 – Ben Kingsley’s performance and wig discussion
• 49:58 – June struggles with “wave” logic
• 62:45 – Audience Q&A on plot holes and factual errors
• 70:38 – Comedic “Second Opinions” segment (audience-submitted songs and reviews)
• 76:52 – Final verdict: Would you recommend the movie?

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Tone & Language

The tone is irreverent, fast-paced, and loaded with sarcasm and sharp observational humor. The panel’s banter is riff-heavy, with frequent callbacks, tangents (Sega CD, Ed Burns’ shrugging), and an inclusive "let’s all marvel at this trainwreck together" attitude.

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Summary for New Listeners

If you missed the episode, here's what you need to know:

• A Sound of Thunder is an impressively illogical, poorly made time travel movie; no detail withstands scrutiny.
• The hosts joyfully dissect its technical failures (CGI, acting, production), logical inconsistencies, and missed storytelling opportunities, all while speculating how its behind-the-scenes chaos led to what appears on screen.
• Panelists repeatedly connect the movie back to sci-fi tropes, other notorious flops, and what could have been improved.
• Most importantly, they advise: skip the movie unless you’re a connoisseur of cinematic disasterpieces.

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[Neil Campbell]

What's up jerks? A sound of thunder.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A sound of thunder.

[Neil Campbell]

Assot. Where are my aesot heads at? Yikes. This was a full blown yikes. I was like, when this movie started and this shit started going down, I was like, oh. When they were like walking what I believe is on a treadmill while the, while the green screen was going on, I was like, oh, what year Was this? Like 9293-2005-2005-2005.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I have some interesting space taxis, but

[Neil Campbell]

everybody's still dressed like it's the 40s. I don't know why or I would

[Jason Mantzoukas]

say some people are dressed like the 40s and other people just wore what they had in their closet because Ed Burns is not rocking an old school gangster look.

[Neil Campbell]

I looked it up. Ed Burns asleep during the entire movie they Weekend at Bernie's. Him. It was. He is like. He is like you said just now, unfazed by truly insane sets of circumstances that are presented to him. And he's like, we'll be fine.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He reacts as if, you know, you just gave him like a slightly smaller piece of butter than he was expecting.

[Neil Campbell]

He's like, I'm sorry, I ordered a Diet Coke. That's the weight. I would even say that he doesn't

[Jason Mantzoukas]

even carry that much weight.

[Neil Campbell]

At one point in the movie. In the third act, he watches every person he loves die.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And he's like, eh, not, not phased by much. But there is someone who can get

[Paul Shearer]

to the heart of the matter and

[Jason Mantzoukas]

is fazed by all the emotions. And we love her for it. Please look at my other co host, June Diane Rayf. Welcome, June.

[June Diane Raphael]

How are you, Paul?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm doing fine, thank you for asking. How are you?

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm okay. I. This was a thinker, you know, and I was listening to you backstage and I'm like, ed Burns, let's just get right into it. He says at the very end that he's gonna figure out a way to tell himself, and I know we're jumping way ahead to tell himself in the present time what happened in the future and that he's gonna figure it out. But he doesn't.

[Neil Campbell]

Well, he does. All he does is he tells his friend, the woman who's his friend, to tell him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But all he does. But she says but she's the one

[June Diane Raphael]

that figures it out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But all he says is to himself. The future version tells the past version. I'm here. Doesn't like say anything.

[Neil Campbell]

He says like, no, he says, he says, oh, check bio check is off. Does such and such turned the bio scan off. Tell me, show me this video. Cause she's got a thing on her head, right?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, but I thought it was out of the briefcase because she's also videotaped.

[Neil Campbell]

She's got the briefcase thing too. But she also has a thing. So he's saying, tell, show me and only me. The video of me now saying the bio check is turned off.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But then she tells. But then she tells the guy as soon as she gets back, check that bio thing. I know you're not doing the bio.

[Neil Campbell]

She doesn't even say it before. They said she tells him in the.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, yeah, while they're. Yeah.

[Neil Campbell]

While they're walking out. I know what you're up to.

[June Diane Raphael]

What's just so baffling is the movie's set up and you're thinking, oh, there's some really clever, interesting way that this is going to. That they're going to be able to communicate in present time from this. And it's like, no, you just videotaped it.

[Neil Campbell]

This is 2055.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let me.

[Neil Campbell]

There's no body. There's no. They don't call us. First of all, Time Safari is a brick and mortar store.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Time Safari looks like a Bed Bath and Beyond. You are walking down the street, like, relax the back.

[Neil Campbell]

I was like, are they encouraging walk ins?

[June Diane Raphael]

But you know what? I actually was like, that's the one

[Neil Campbell]

thing I want to do this.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's the one thing for me that made sense because I was like, retail is dying and this is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They're bringing it back, by the way.

[Neil Campbell]

Going the way of the dinosaurs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

In the year 2055, a new technology was invented that could change the world. And you have to wait for it when you're watching it real time or destroy it. Great. Okay. I like it. Good setup. A man named Charles Hatton used it to make money. We don't need that Second one.

[Neil Campbell]

Cut it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We don't.

[Neil Campbell]

Yeah, first note. Cut that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Got that. Now I will say when this movie opens up, I guess no one checked the masks that they wouldn't get too foggy because you are looking at people's faces. The light of the, like the studio lights are reflecting off the clear plastic goggles. You really can't see their faces. It feels like there's fog in there.

[Neil Campbell]

You can't tell who is who in there either.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I literally was so confused and I was like, this is how we're meeting our main cast. And then quickly everything went away when Wallace Shawn's character from Toy Story, the dinosaur appears. Because that dinosaur in toy looks more realistic than this real T. Rex.

[Neil Campbell]

I would argue the dinosaurs in the TV show dinosaurs look better than the dinosaurs in this. These dinosaurs again. What year was Jurassic Park?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I am not in the2093.

[Neil Campbell]

This is 2005. This is like a. This is a game that you would play on. Like a Game Boy.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This whole movie is cutscenes from a Sega CD game. It's like, was Corey Haim gonna pop up here and be like, dude, this mansion is wild, and then disappear for 40 minutes while you just do a very. Oh, yeah, I had the Sega cd. Corey Feldman. Maybe it was Corey Feldman. There was one of the Coreys in a Sega CD game. I had it. I also had the make youe Own video, Crisscross SEGA cd. So you could take the song, you know, the Kris Kross song, make a jump, and then you could re edit it. But it really never worked. You really couldn't re edit the footage, but you would sit there re editing.

[Neil Campbell]

So the game was editing?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Pretty much. Pretty much.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's a task.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, it wasn't fun. I always would put it in, but

[Neil Campbell]

then you would upload it and then you would create a music video.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, and I wasn't getting paid my hourly wage, but they said, you know, look, this, you were doing someone else's work.

[Neil Campbell]

That was a scam.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, this whole opening. I do have a major question about this. I like a time travel film.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

As you like an airplane film. I like a time travel film. The core problem to me about this movie. Well, can you point it out from a time travel perspective? Can you tell me what I'm about to say?

[Neil Campbell]

Well, you don't need any preparation or training to do it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, That's a good.

[Neil Campbell]

You can walk in and be in the prehistoric era an hour later.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

My thought was this. I was close. It was. They're going back to the same point for every adventure. It's not multiple adventures. It's this one thing to kill this one.

[June Diane Raphael]

You're sure about that?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes, because they know when the dinosaurs had dropped because the volcano. Right. So they do this. Why aren't they running into all the other people who've gone on this tour?

[Neil Campbell]

Yeah, because they're all going back to the same spot.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The same spot.

[Neil Campbell]

It doesn't matter where you start from. If you're going to the same.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You would be basically running into a crowd. Yeah, you would be. Every time you would run this adventure, be like, oh fuck. Oh shit. Oh, you're here.

[Neil Campbell]

Like, it would also be like. It would create a paradox because the team, like the guests would be different.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Neil Campbell]

But the team would be the same. So those people would be constantly running into variants of themselves.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I couldn't get it out of my head.

[Neil Campbell]

That should create the paradox.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Neil Campbell]

The butterfly. It doesn't matter if you kill a butterfly. You can't all arrive at the same spot over and over and over again.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, like they, they, I would have just like. Because even if they go, we arrive a second earlier, a second later. It doesn't make a difference because that

[Neil Campbell]

other group is coming because they're going to the same. They're playing out the same. It's a game basically where they're playing out the same five Minutes for every mission.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. And that would make. No, like, the core principle of the movie. You have to go like, well, that's not important.

[Neil Campbell]

Is that part of the Ray Bradbury story? Because I would lay it at the feet of this absolutely dumb movie, but it's based on a Ray Bradbury story.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So I guess Ray Bradbury did have the technology worked out, and he had it really. You know, but it just was too complicated for this movie. They needed to get through it. I mean, this.

[Neil Campbell]

You're absolutely right. That makes absolutely no sense. And Because. And really ruins the movie for me because.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Because I guess what I'm saying.

[June Diane Raphael]

No, I don't want to do this show anymore.

[Neil Campbell]

Black it out. Show's over.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Good night. But. But. No, but that was, like, so interesting to me, because also, it means that, like. All right, so if everything gets erased each time they go back. I mean, I also had another major time travel issue, which is, why did it take 24 hours for the world to recover? Because technically, they leave that moment in the past, and then the world would be moving forward from that moment. So they wouldn't even have a city or a building, because the few past would have moved forward.

[June Diane Raphael]

The waves of it all.

[Neil Campbell]

Oh, the time.

[June Diane Raphael]

The time waves. And I'm just reflecting right now on the title of the movie, A sound of thunder. 8th sound of thunder. Is a sound of thunder. A wave. Is that what we're.

[Neil Campbell]

I don't know what a sound of thunder refers to in this movie at all.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The idea is. Oh, I know what it is. Because isn't it when you hear thunder, it's a little far away. It's like, you can't. Like, it's like you hear. You see lightning and then. No, you hear thunder, and then you can see lightning or you see lightning and then you hear thunder.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, either way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What is it?

[Neil Campbell]

I know what you're saying.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, right.

[Neil Campbell]

I don't know.

[June Diane Raphael]

What does that have to do with this?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, because it's like. Because they did, like, so in this, they did something, and then a couple beats later, it starts to change.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, I see what you're saying.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, yeah, that's.

[Neil Campbell]

Then I hate this movie more.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I really do, too, because I think that that is. I think that that is the idea.

[Neil Campbell]

Because basically, the time waves. Yes, the compounding time waves keep making. And the woman who's the doctor who knows all the answers, she's like, well, this is how it's gonna work. There's gonna be time waves, and first it's gonna be plants Then it's gonna be animals. Then it's gonna end with us turning into, like, monsters. Okay, okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Catfish.

[June Diane Raphael]

The shot of her turned into, like, an alien monster.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She turned into.

[June Diane Raphael]

She fell over.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She turned into a human catfish.

[Neil Campbell]

By the way. By the way, I wanna watch this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But that's what I'm talking about. Like, the idea of this movie.

[Neil Campbell]

This should happen at minute 15. Then figure it out.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The idea. But this is why I'm so confused. It's like, all right, so we have to accept that when he goes to visit her, when Ed Burns goes to visit her, she looks out the window and she's like, has it been 24 hours? He's like, actually, exactly. He comes to her house at exactly the 24 hour mark so they can hit the wave.

[Neil Campbell]

And he's like, I think what you said might be happening. And he is again. Like, all of his delivery is like, I don't know. I think, like.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think nothing phases him.

[June Diane Raphael]

Even when, like, he's trapped underground with her and the other lady. He's like, you're gonna have to hold your breath and swim up there.

[Neil Campbell]

They're in a subway car submerged in water, and he's like, we're gonna have to wait, blow out the window, and then take the deepest breath possible and

[June Diane Raphael]

then head out like he's ordering a latte. It's so strange.

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[Neil Campbell]

They lied to us. They said this was gonna be good, just like Jurassic Park.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It was just. It was. So basically, the thought is that the production company went bankrupt during post production, and they're like, well, all right.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, it is. Whatever.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Whatever we got, we got.

[Neil Campbell]

Well, that's like, what was it? The snowman that we did where they just didn't shoot 15% of the script, and they just edited it together and it makes no sense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It really. It is like.

[June Diane Raphael]

It is a real unfortunate way because there are some creatures, like the crazy gorilla futuristic creatures. I did think that they were really spooky. And, like, there were some shots when they revealed that they were all sleeping upside down.

[Neil Campbell]

Like bats.

[June Diane Raphael]

Like bats. I thought that was genuinely scary and really creepy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I thought this was like, huh?

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, yeah. He's like, just quiet down a bit.

[Neil Campbell]

Okay, we still gotta get that, and we'll get up here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Edwards. Edwards.

[June Diane Raphael]

And they actually kept on flashing their flashlights at them. I was like, stop. You're gonna wake them up.

[Neil Campbell]

That's what's gonna wake them up.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Ed Burns literally watches his friend sacrifice his life. And it looks like he's just trying to hear what he's saying. He's like, what is he.

[Paul Shearer]

What is he saying?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What's he saying?

[June Diane Raphael]

And I have a woman throw a rock over there. Run.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Run. He's biting time.

[June Diane Raphael]

Run.

[Neil Campbell]

There's a woman in the movie who he knows because he promised her father he was going to take care of her. She dies in front of him. And he's like, no.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And at one point, he's got the worst justification. He's like, look, if you want to bring all these people back, we got to figure this shit out. That's why I'm not like, yeah, she died, but I'll figure it out later. Like, let's go.

[Neil Campbell]

And this. This movie posits a world in which these eight people are the only eight people who can do any of this. Like, never once do they call smarter people, call the government, call other. And.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No.

[Neil Campbell]

Nobody. Nobody. It's like. It's like Ed Burn. Like, the hunter and his crew are the only people who can solve.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, it's. And their ice guns seemed that what was happening. And I did think this was pretty creepy and scary, that what was happening is people were losing their minds.

[Neil Campbell]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

And so the. The. The civilians were just, like, panicked and shooting each other.

[Neil Campbell]

That is true. Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But I don't even understand why. Because.

[Neil Campbell]

Because the thorns.

[June Diane Raphael]

The thorns. But to see the rate at. Listen. To see the rate at which infrastructure

[Jason Mantzoukas]

collapsed in 24 hours. Like, what is going on in this movie is like, they are. All right, so plant. Like, what the fuck happened in the past? They stepped on a butterfly. And you're gonna make me go like that makes monkey creatures. No. Buildings. Poisonous. Like, it's. I get it. One small thing can affect everything. But let's make it a little bit bigger. I mean, you've created an.

[Neil Campbell]

When they found the guy's shoe and flipped it and that giant butterfly was on the underside, I was like, fuck you.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I have watched children's shows. Peppa the Pig has more subtlety than this movie.

[Neil Campbell]

I would rather I. I. Caillou gets it better than this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, here's the things. Some of the things.

[Neil Campbell]

I love Caillou.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They go. They go to Ed Burns house. By the way, this is when we get to finally see what happened to the actress from Love. Actually, we see her character is continued here when she seduces Ed Burns.

[Neil Campbell]

I wish she had the necklace that Alan Rickman did.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I really was. I was like, this is a continuation in the future.

[Neil Campbell]

She's figured out how she's got the heart necklace on. Emma Thompson's listening to Joni Mitchell somewhere. And like a fucking queen in her

[Jason Mantzoukas]

catfish face listening to Joni Mitchell. But no, in that moment when she visits his house to sex him. You see his house, and it's 2055. And how do they show? It's futuristic. He has clear moving boxes.

[Guest Expert]

Yeah.

[Neil Campbell]

Ooh.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like it was like, what's the future like? Like, in the future, moving boxes will be clear. Like, it's.

[June Diane Raphael]

I did think about it, though, and I was like, well, it's a pretty good idea, actually. See what's in there, know what's happen.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Neil Campbell]

Where's the kitchen stuff?

[June Diane Raphael]

Right there. Yeah. It's like, just move it over that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, I'm wrong. All right. The other thing that I love about this, the movie is trying so hard to try to, like, show you cool future tech. And, like, at one point, you find out that Ed Burns character really wants to, like, bring back animals. Animals. So he, like, has a secret lab in a zoo.

[Neil Campbell]

Animals are done.

[June Diane Raphael]

So except for fish.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

So, like, I couldn't understand.

[Neil Campbell]

Wait, where do we see fish?

[June Diane Raphael]

The fish start beaching themselves.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, that's one of the big stories.

[June Diane Raphael]

But. So I just didn't understand the ecosystem.

[Neil Campbell]

Like, there was some virus.

[June Diane Raphael]

The ocean is thriving. Like, we're all probably doing okay, and there should be. So I didn't quite understand the rules of.

[Neil Campbell]

Oh, you didn't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The rules.

[Neil Campbell]

Consider yourself the only one here. Because we all get it. Totally.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean.

[Neil Campbell]

No, you're right. You're right. They did say that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, here is one of the great explanations. This is a movie where even if you rewind it three times, you're like, I'm not sure what was said. Like, Star Trek jargon sounds better than this.

[Guest Expert]

When you change something in the past, the future isn't affected all at once. Changes come in ripples, like dropping a stone into a pond.

[Neil Campbell]

So you mean there'll be more of these?

[Guest Expert]

Oh, yeah. And they'll get bigger and bigger. All the changes in evolution that you affected, all of them will come in the waves. We'll start with climate, then the vegetation, the early manifestations of life. Then come the more complex organisms.

[Neil Campbell]

So what will happen in the last wave?

[Guest Expert]

It'll be us. We wave goodbye. The last wave changes the last species to evolve, Homo sapiens. God knows what will become. We may have no eyes. We may be sea creatures. We may not even exist at all. We don't have too many more waves before that one.

[Neil Campbell]

Can we fix what we did?

[Guest Expert]

I don't know. Maybe now.

[Neil Campbell]

Okay, here's.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I have a very big question about.

[Neil Campbell]

All should be going, what the fuck? What the fuck? Can we fix it? Can we fucking fix it? Oh, my God. What the fuck is this? What is this? We're fucked.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We're fucked. We're fucked.

[Neil Campbell]

Where are these plants coming from? How do you know all this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no.

[Neil Campbell]

Where are my parents? Where are the people that I love? Can I protect them? Can I protect the people I love? Help me help the world.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's like, I'll go one step further.

[Neil Campbell]

Can we fix it? Can we.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, he is reacting. He's reacting that. The way that you react when you're not sure if it had rained on you or maybe there was that, like, an air conditioner or something.

[Neil Campbell]

I don't know where you go outside and you're like, oh, it's actually a little colder than I thought. Maybe I do.

[June Diane Raphael]

Maybe I do need a sweater.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But here is my issue, my issue with this scientist. And I know it's easy to poke holes in this movie, but how the fuck does she know about these waves? It's never happened.

[Neil Campbell]

Can we rewind just a little bit too?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She literally plans out the whole movie, but it's never happened. So theoretically, she's like, well, or Paul, maybe it did. But then how would she remember it? Because he doesn't remember it. Ooh.

[Neil Campbell]

Okay. All of those people who are rummaging around whatever, they should also be freaking out.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, everybody.

[Neil Campbell]

They.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No, they are so interested in Vines.

[Neil Campbell]

Maybe. Maybe you could convince me that Ed Burns and the actress playing the doctor here, because they know what's going on. They are a little bit more like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Everybody else in the world should be like, what? What is happening?

[June Diane Raphael]

In fact, when I first saw this, I thought, oh, they're zombies. Like, they are. They've been. They've. Something's happened to them that's very bad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I think this is what happened to them. The director, Peter Himes, HDTGM alum, directed Time Cop, another time travel feature. They go, hey, Peter, we have four extras today. How do you want to use them? Keep them in frame. Just keep them in frame. We can't have them running because it's like the minute they run, they're off of frame. So it's like mill, mill around. Everybody here. Everybody here is really contemplative. They're very. In the future, we contemplate.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, they're looking around there like it's an Easter egg hunt. They're just like.

[Neil Campbell]

Keep in mind, they're in a green screen studio. They're looking at nothing.

[June Diane Raphael]

Zero.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, this movie is the first time that you see them walking. Right. When they are walking, like you said, on the treadmill there. I mean, this is, to me, one of. Right. Like, we see a little bit of Chicago and then. And by the way, you're not. Guys are saying they're on a treadmill. I just thought they were just walking in place. If you look at them, they look like they're walking in place.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, my God.

[Guest Expert]

And before or after.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, this is walking in place. And he's better at it than she is.

[Neil Campbell]

Jim, you know that I promised your father that I.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What I love about this, too, is the little. Like, they didn't have enough money to finish cgi. But as they're walking in the cityscape, you get to see some fun little things, things that the graphic designers added in. I'll show you one coming up in just one second. I think it's right here. It's a 7 11. And then it's in the 7 11. It says, let's see. Hold on. Cannabis. But it's so. Like, I could make this. I'm terrible at Photoshop. It's like. It's this, like, block font that just says cannabis. And it's. And it says, like, I don't even know if it's.

[June Diane Raphael]

I can't read it from here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, it says cannabis. That's all. And it says, pay, pay for two, take one. Oh, cab. Cabam, Cabaness, C, A, B, A, N, I, S, Cabanis. Which I think is probably a brand of cannabis, which is.

[Neil Campbell]

Or. Or it's. It's future cannabis.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But this, to me, is the gra.

[Neil Campbell]

Like, again, they didn't even have time to spell check the graphics in the background now.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Funny graphics.

[Neil Campbell]

Ed Burns must have seen this and been like, motherfuck.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Ed Burns not lit right here. No light on his face. He's walking in broad daylight outside in Chicago.

[June Diane Raphael]

The lighting in general. It's a dark movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

There are lots of times where I couldn't quite see what was going on.

[Neil Campbell]

Well, this hat, too. This poor. This poor woman is saddled with a giant hat. She's wearing an Amy Sherman Paladino level hat. That is preposterous.

[June Diane Raphael]

You know, they do this. I mean, to men and women. But, like, they really want to make it clear he doesn't want to fuck her. Like, don't worry, she's got that hat on. There's no way.

[Neil Campbell]

And he said, I promised your father that I would take care of you.

[June Diane Raphael]

You're not a sexual object.

[Neil Campbell]

I'm not gonna fuck you. Yeah, but he's still. But when she dies, he's dressed like 2005.

[Paul Shearer]

Watch.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What? His reaction when she dies. If that is his reaction to, like, this is the Woman he's supposed to take care of. Right. Watch this moment here.

[Neil Campbell]

Promised her father.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And. And it's as simple as this.

[Neil Campbell]

Take the deepest breath of your life, and then we'll go for it. All right?

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay.

[Audience Member]

Hey.

[Neil Campbell]

Just look at how calm they are.

[Audience Member]

Give me a second.

[Neil Campbell]

You would be your.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And the subway car fills up with water. Que sera, sera. Back to normal. No reaction.

[Neil Campbell]

Let's go.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let's go. He says, let's go. His first reaction is, all right. He doesn't mourn. Still on, you know what now.

[Neil Campbell]

Doesn't mourn her at all.

[June Diane Raphael]

He.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

He's.

[June Diane Raphael]

By the way, I would love to believe, like, in your reading, Paul, which is that he assumes he will see her again because he's gonna fix this.

[Neil Campbell]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

But it doesn't feel that way in the moment. It really doesn't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

No. He's like one less person. One less person.

[Neil Campbell]

If the movie ended with, like. If the movie ended with him taking VR goggles off and the whole thing was a game he'd been playing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Neil Campbell]

It would make more sense.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

A game that took place in 1989

[Neil Campbell]

for how casual he treats the human lives of the people that he both loves and the people that are his team.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Now, I will say the person who brings in a lot of energy is Ben Kingsley.

[June Diane Raphael]

Ben Kingsley is doing, honestly, some of the best work of his career.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes. Sir Ben.

[Neil Campbell]

Sbk.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sir Ben comes in, and I'm gonna have. I have a theory here. I know the wig is doing some work for Sir Ben. Like, that white wig is great, but I also felt. And tell me if you think I'm crazy. I'll play this clip. I think he's channeling Robin Williams. Like, there's an energy to him that I feel like. I don't know why I was looking at him. I'm like. I feel like you're doing, like. I feel like this could have been a Robin Williams part. I don't know why I think that.

[Neil Campbell]

You think it could have been a Robin Williams part? Yeah. Oh, okay.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I don't know. Let's see.

[Neil Campbell]

By the time I'm done suing you, I'm gonna own this.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's your right. Mr. Middleton, I understand you're upset, but I say to you, look beyond your immediate feelings. Look at what you achieved today.

[Neil Campbell]

I almost achieved getting eaten, and you weren't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Since we've been in business, countless clients

[Guest Expert]

have jumped back through time, faced the

[Neil Campbell]

allosaurus, and gone home trembling and proud that they cheated death.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Doesn't he have, like, a similar. Robin? There's a cadence. It's a very like, like, it's like a later Robin Williams kind of performance style. Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay. Two things about that. He has a reaction shot. I don't. It's not in this scene. It's in like the party scene where one of the clients is, I think, questioning what happened on one of the excursions. And his reaction, he's doing full clown work. And it was. It's some of the funniest things I've ever. I've ever seen. Second thing, what happened early on in the movie when one of the guns fell in the lab area and something oozed out of.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So that's.

[June Diane Raphael]

Okay. What was that?

[Neil Campbell]

Okay, so one of the guys dropped like a nitrogen thing.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And he's loading up, he's part of the team and he loads up the nitrogen containers and it falls and he's like, oh, shit.

[Neil Campbell]

Okay. He gets it and he puts it in. Okay. But it's leaking and it leaks nitrogen onto Ed Burns's gun.

[June Diane Raphael]

So that's why he can't shoot.

[Neil Campbell]

That's what an Ed Burns gun is, the safety for all the other guns. So they can't go off when he should shoot.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But do you think that they would

[Neil Campbell]

do a check of the guns before they did? They said that they did, but that it didn't work anyway. They do try and exposition themselves out of it, but it is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It is so dumb.

[June Diane Raphael]

But where does that. In terms of the butterfly, what does that give us exactly?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, the idea is

[Neil Campbell]

the period of time when he can't shoot. He has to distract the dinosaur. He distracts the dinosaur and those two guys run off and hide. These two dummies, they run off and hide and one of them steps on the butterfly and that's what sets the rest of the movie in motion.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay, and why are they on this like moving walkway? So this time travel walkway, the time travel thing that they do, it's like, not only does it time transport you, but it also shoots out like a pirate ship esque plank that I have that seemingly goes on for a very long time.

[Neil Campbell]

I had questions about that too. Cause they were like, don't step off the path or whatever they call it. So did they install that? And wouldn't that be the butterfly effect?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But I think that is a projection of their time. Like it comes out, but once it hits the ground or even hovers of it above it. I mean, I'm also just so confused because the volcano looks so far away. And when they go back at one point they're like, it's exploding. Run.

[Audience Member]

Run.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It's like, well, that's not gonna get there that quick. I mean, you don't get there pretty quick. You think we'll get there that quick.

[Neil Campbell]

If you've seen the Werner Herzog volcano documentary into the Inferno.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Okay.

[Neil Campbell]

There's footage of volcano. That is terrifying.

[June Diane Raphael]

Good to know.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Good to know.

[Neil Campbell]

Also an incredible watch.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I just felt like it was so far away, and they're like, all right, but I'll take that. Just.

[Neil Campbell]

If you haven't watched the movie, their whole theory is we're going to a. A spot in time where the dinosaur is gonna get trapped in the. Whatever, swamp, right. And the volcano's gonna come and kill it anyway, Right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And then we're gonna shoot it with our ice bullets. So we leave no trace. So we basically are just. We're basically putting a dinosaur out of its misery because he's already gonna be. It's like a rat in a glue trap. He is gonna be stuck in there. Guess who's coming to dinner. I'm Wallace Shaw.

[Neil Campbell]

Did you audition for this role?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I am pissed off. And they say that you have your audition tape. Yeah, The. There is. Thank you.

[Neil Campbell]

Don't clap for that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But there are these moments in logic that make no fucking sense. There's a moment where bugs are infiltrating this woman's apartment.

[June Diane Raphael]

That was terrifying.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And he goes, step on this bag.

[Neil Campbell]

Why?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, the bag is.

[June Diane Raphael]

Well, she did. And then they crawled right up on it, Right? And then I wanted to tell them, like, go out there. You're standing right next to a door. Go behind the door and close was. Yeah.

[Neil Campbell]

Instead, he sprays, like, I don't know, some sort of chemical. And he's like. Or water maybe, or something, whatever that clears a path. And he's like, go out the door. Go out the door. Then. Then the thing is gonna explode. The tanks are gonna explode. They jump off the balcony of a skyscraper without a second thought. They don't think for a second. And they land on a plant.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, yeah, that plant. They knew that plant was gonna.

[June Diane Raphael]

Plants are everywhere at that point and

[Neil Campbell]

are literally like, huh, okay, dude. And she goes. She goes. Her line is, this tree wasn't here yesterday.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

By the way, these are the people I want to be with in a moment of tragedy. I want to be like, all right, let's see.

[June Diane Raphael]

Everybody does say that it's. It's not smart for her to panic, which I appreciate, by the way.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You would say that this is the way that I react to certain things. Right.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's true. You underreact to crisis.

[Neil Campbell]

It's very unsettling in this movie.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I got Ed Burns's character. All right, we'll deal with it.

[Neil Campbell]

We'll figure it out. Every five minutes in this movie, something happens to the main characters that should.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh,

[Neil Campbell]

that should melt their brains.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I do feel like a movie like this. It's like reverse Jaws. Because, like, in Jaws, wasn't it, like, they lost their budget, they didn't have enough swadge. Yeah, it's just a swadge scenario. Because, like, in Jaws, they realize, oh, shit, the shark looks bad. So what we'll do is we'll make it scarier by not showing them. But in this movie, it's like, oh, shit, we don't have the money. Let's show everything. Like, they never hesitate to show everything in broad daylight at a. Nothing is hidden. Nothing is. Like, there is.

[Neil Campbell]

Like, there's nothing in rain. There's nothing at night. All the tricks to make bad special effects a little bit more obfuscated.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They don't use my favorite bad special effect. And this makes no sense. When Ed Burns is showing his secret zoo laboratory off, he's talking, and then all of a sudden, you see a fucking lion walking down a hallway. Like, gung ga gung ga gung. And I think as an audience member, you're supposed to be like, oh, shit, he's in a zoo. A lion's coming. Ooh. But no, it's a CGI creation or like a VR version of a lion. And then I'm like, well, where. Why was it coming from the hallway? Like, does he have a pop up? Yeah, like he has a table.

[Neil Campbell]

And not be like, this is what I'm working on.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right. Because that's where he is, on that table. Like, the lion walks in from the other room to sit on the projection table.

[Neil Campbell]

Why are we the camera and the audience with the lion and.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And it is a hologram. So where is the light source? I mean, like, something should be. It's 2050.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah, they figured that out.

[Neil Campbell]

My favorite part, we live in a world where there are clear moving boxes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

I think we got light sources everywhere. Don't worry about.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, all right, again, I stand corrected.

[Neil Campbell]

The swatch problem. We've mastered transparent cardboard.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

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[June Diane Raphael]

I'm still trying to understand the waves, though, because I could never really wrap. She did draw that really helpful picture of circles, like, so a butterfly is killed. Back with the dinosaurs. Now, why. Why are we affected in waves now? If. If evolution got fucked, why did I just wait?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Why was her solution just. Just go back a little bit earlier. At any point, they could have been like, I could have figured that out. Yeah, just go back before you did that jump. What was the issue? Yeah, they wasn't like, oh, the machine's broken, right?

[Neil Campbell]

Until it was. Until it was because of plants.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The minute that fucking plant jumps up,

[Neil Campbell]

I think all of Act 2, the real villain is plants.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's like that M. Night movie where the villain was trees at the end.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, this is. I mean, we've talked about. I mean, this is M. Night dealt with this too, right? There's a movie where trees are the villains in his movie as well. That's the Mark Wahlberg Movie.

[Neil Campbell]

This is a shared universe.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Trees are bad guys.

[Neil Campbell]

Trees are fucking bad.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But, I mean, they truly are fighting against nature. Right. The idea is that this one, if this one butterfly lives, the world is destroyed. It becomes like this giant, you know, humans take over, animals die. But if you kill us, one butterfly, nature takes over. We don't evolve.

[Neil Campbell]

I think so. But I think they're also trying to say, like, you live in a world without animals, without nature. They don't have this stuff. So the change means, like, the world is now overrun with animals and nature and plants and trees and all this stuff, because the world, it doesn't do a good job setting it up. But he seems to be. His altruistic belief is, I'm going to bring back animals.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right, right.

[Neil Campbell]

That's why he's a good guy. Not like a piece of shit.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah. Cause he doesn't like his job.

[Neil Campbell]

No. Cause I think he thinks his job is allowing him to gather the DNA,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

but he's only going to the same spot over and over and over again.

[June Diane Raphael]

And also.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You got the DNA. You got it.

[June Diane Raphael]

He seems. Yes, he got it already. But it also seems to me like, that DNA, he should have used that somehow to figure this all out. In the end, like, I was waiting for us to come back to that lab and have that DNA somehow create something else.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But by the way, I'm also, like, if I'm paying, I don't know, whatever 2055 gangster money is to go on this adventure, I would want more than five minutes. That's shorter than a. Like, a Disney World, like, ride to

[June Diane Raphael]

go back in time.

[Neil Campbell]

Really?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I mean, all they do is, like, this is what they do. Hey, get your guns. Here we go. There it is. Shoot him. God. All right, see, home, like, that's the thing.

[Neil Campbell]

Tomorrow we can travel back in time.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, I would say. But this is what I would say. Yes. Can I look around for a half an hour?

[Neil Campbell]

No.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Can I, like.

[June Diane Raphael]

No. It's like, that's the thing.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They come out. They're like. They literally come out of the tunnel. Like, get your guns. Get your guns. There it is. Bang. Okay, everybody back.

[Neil Campbell]

Get back before the volcano.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Just give me a moment. Let me take it in.

[June Diane Raphael]

It seems like you get a nice video at the end and you, I think, can keep the costume that you wore.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You could keep that costume.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah. I guess he did get to keep that costume.

[June Diane Raphael]

You're able to keep that.

[Neil Campbell]

Everybody gets to keep their costume.

[June Diane Raphael]

And you can look back and rewatch it as many times as well.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What did he do with those boots that he did? I guess he took the boots off and put them in a bag. Because that butterfly stayed on through. Walking through the streets of Chicago like that. I mean, that was really like.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Neil Campbell]

Things we haven't mentioned. Tammy.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, Tammy.

[Neil Campbell]

Tammy.

[June Diane Raphael]

Tammy's for the reason for the season.

[Neil Campbell]

A character in the movie who is like. Like, who should be incredibly powerful as an ally, but they barely use.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Tammy is the computer, like the AI or whatever. And it's an acronym that stands for Time Alteration Manipulator Interface, which is an acronym that is as simple as this movie. To understand

[June Diane Raphael]

what happens to Ben Kingsley.

[Neil Campbell]

Right? He dies. They show him dead.

[June Diane Raphael]

Oh, God, I must have seen this.

[Neil Campbell]

Ben.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We have him for one day, but yet.

[Neil Campbell]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

One outfit, same two sets. Okay. And that's all we got. Cause he is doing the same two sets. It's like. It's the champagne room. They're like, okay, take the blood off, everybody. All right, Ben, you stay in the same costume. We're not gonna get blood on you. Let's bring in the next guys. Let's do all of his close ups. Ben's gotta get out of here in 45 minutes. He's got a birthday party. He's gotta go. We gotta get him out. Like, I think that that's all he did. And by the way, he brought it. He brought it. It. In this short period of time I'm

[Neil Campbell]

just looking at my notes and it. The number of times that I've just written the words future taxis. I don't know why I seem to have been obsessed with that, because I wrote it a lot. Also, the trd, The Time regulation trc. Time Regulation Commission or something like that. Why aren't they part of this? Like, where is. Where is. Like, why is Ben Kingsley and this private storefront time travel organization which seems

[Jason Mantzoukas]

to be so expensive, you wouldn't need it to be on the ground level. Like, it's not for the common person. Like, that's why I want to see more adventures. It's like, if you're doing it, that's

[June Diane Raphael]

what retail's gonna look like, though.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I guess you're right.

[Neil Campbell]

I guess so. Everybody is so boring. Everybody in this world.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I know.

[June Diane Raphael]

And I wanted kind of a chemistry between the two of them. Between Ed Burns and the Scient. Give me something.

[Neil Campbell]

Anybody.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, I like him.

[Neil Campbell]

And the girl from Anybody.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The girl from Love actually is the only one is kind of bringing this sex appeal. Like, I don't even know why she wants to fuck him, but she does

[June Diane Raphael]

no idea why she wants to fuck him?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I thought she was a part of the team.

[Neil Campbell]

Everybody acts like he is like the hunkiest, famousest guy in the world.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's so interesting. It's like he is a good looking guy, but God, there's nothing coming off him.

[Neil Campbell]

Every, every, every line he has in the movie could have been replaced with him just going, ah, nuts.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We don't have nuts. Cut.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yes.

[Neil Campbell]

Oh, nuts.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Are you telling me everyone's dead? All right, well, that's what's though, honestly,

[June Diane Raphael]

he's just been put on hold.

[Neil Campbell]

When the guy. Yeah, when they go to the guy. When the guy who stepped on the butterfly, they go to his apartment because they need to know what was it that happened to change the world. So they go to his apartment. This man has a loaded gun and he's looking at them, right?

[June Diane Raphael]

What I said, people have gone crazy.

[Neil Campbell]

Yeah, because of, because of the thorns,

[Jason Mantzoukas]

which is another layer we don't need.

[Neil Campbell]

The true villain of the movie, thorns, nature.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

This is a movie where the good guys defeat nature. It's like nature, get the fuck back. You get back. Underground animals get out of here. Big buildings, space taxis. That's what we got. Like, that's what we're rooting for. We're rooting for them to get back to shitty future and burn.

[Neil Campbell]

Seems convinced. It's as if it says, I'm sorry, this is what it says. Like, it's as if Ed Burns in every scene. The guy's shooting guns at him and everything's crazy and he's like, it's okay. I read the script. It's going to be fine.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, yeah. We unact one and we in act one. Yeah, no, this is why it's nerve. It's scary in Act 1, but Act 3 is going to be better.

[June Diane Raphael]

He wonders if, like he couldn't handle her character being the one that's calm and having like the knowledge and being placating. And if he just took on that energy, yes, perhaps.

[Neil Campbell]

But he also, he also, I think, is trying to play the Han Solo like, hero. The kind of aw shucks, like, I guess I gotta fix it all kind of thing, which is because everybody is treating him like he's the sexiest, most desirable rogue or something. And that's not the case.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Here's another thing. Why doesn't he remember, right? Because we're talking about these fucking time ripples that take like 24 hours to hit. But when they stop it and it does the jump back, wouldn't it take 24 hours to go backwards, Wouldn't it be like reverse time ripples, like, and then we'd be back.

[Neil Campbell]

Oh, interesting.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It just flips back. So, like, he would remember for at least two or three time ripples before everything went back to normal again. Like, ideally, we are led into this world with ripples. Ripples. We would go backwards with the ripples.

[Neil Campbell]

I. I don't. Yeah, you're right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I'm looking at it from a scientific

[Neil Campbell]

point of view, which, by the way, would have given us more of what I wanted, which is the love story of Ed Burns and the Fish lady.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Hey, so you're fish.

[Neil Campbell]

It's the shape of water.

[June Diane Raphael]

I love that movie. I really love that movie.

[Neil Campbell]

I. Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

I feel like I was the only person who. I only watched it once. I could not get over Sally Hawkins performance. I thought, I think It's a beautiful 90.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Sure. You fell asleep in it.

[June Diane Raphael]

I watched, yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, I'm not calling you out. I believe. I believe. I believe. I believe that you saw it. And I. And I watched the way that you sleep. And sometimes you will say to me, you have been asleep for a long time. And I'll. And I'll turn the TV volume down. You're like, I'm watching that. I'm like, you're. You clearly are not. You. You have. I have spoken to.

[June Diane Raphael]

Or I'm listening to it.

[Neil Campbell]

Yes, because your eyes are closed, but you think. You think you're. You're listening and paying attention.

[June Diane Raphael]

I'm sorry, is listening to a medium so shitty? Is that the worst thing you can do?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You are dead asleep. Like, should I tell him what happened last night? Or is that too personal? Yeah, go ahead. I. June had been gone out.

[June Diane Raphael]

I was actually asleep here.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Like, hardcore asleep. I was getting ready to go to bed, and I turned off the. The tv, which had been off. It just had the screensaver on. Right. So I was like. Clicked it off. And June goes, I'm watching that. And I said, the screensaver. And. To which you replied, yeah. Do you mind if I watch more? And I go, you're asleep. And she's like, I'm watching it. Give me the remote. And then I passed her the remote, to which she put on her chest, did not turn the TV back on, and went right back to sleep.

[June Diane Raphael]

That's right, Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And was mad at me when I laughed that she was watching it because nothing had been on for an hour.

[June Diane Raphael]

I mean, I still might have been

[Jason Mantzoukas]

watching the tv, like, in case someone steals it.

[June Diane Raphael]

I just feel you're so quick to turn it off to take away my pleasures. It's like, just let me have my things, you know, I work it off. I work so hard during the day.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I left it on. On watching the moon, the beautiful moon or whatever fucking cityscape is on Apple tv. That changes because I download it automatically. It's no big deal. All right, so, by the way, Pierce Brosnan was going to make this movie with Renny Harlan, but Renny Harlan was fired because Ray Bradbury didn't like his creative decisions. Which means that. Yes. So God knows. Anyway, we have questions, but we know that you might have some questions. Whatever it is, we want you to fact check us. Bring it to our attention. Whatever it is, let us know. Raise your hand if you have something. Okay, great. Yeah. Stand up so we can hear you. Good. Nice and clear. Here we go. What's your name?

[Neil Campbell]

Patrick.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Patrick, what is your question?

[Neil Campbell]

What if the volcano had also just killed the butterfly?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Anyway, great question. Wouldn't. Great question. Wouldn't the volcano.

[Neil Campbell]

But yes. The answer is yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But I guess in.

[Neil Campbell]

That's how it's supposed to happen, though.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

But in the. But in the millisecond that they killed it before the volcano went off, that's when all the shit goes down.

[Neil Campbell]

Correct.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What could have happened in that time?

[Neil Campbell]

History has changed irrevocably.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, great question. Great question.

[Neil Campbell]

You're an idiot.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Ray Bradbury didn't have a problem with it.

[Neil Campbell]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

In the back there go you.

[Paul Shearer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, look this up. The dinosaur that was in the movie was like 80 million years off from the time they actually went to Alice. 165 million years ago.

[Neil Campbell]

65 million years ago.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

So they didn't even do the research to figure out what dinosaur did. That is amazing. And I. And again, I would say. Great, thank you for that. They did not do the right research. But again, I would say they just took the toy Story dinosaur. They didn't really.

[Neil Campbell]

But for this guy who started his thing by being like, I did the research, don't bother. Use your time better.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

In the. In the. Yeah, in the back. We have tune back. Yeah, great. So it's been a long time, but I read this short story in school. Oh, great. So all the waves and all that, they made up for this movie. It's basically, if I remember correctly, the thing that changes is when they get

[Neil Campbell]

back, the equivalent of the Nazi party

[Jason Mantzoukas]

is in charge of America. Bad old chestnut. Yep,

[Neil Campbell]

he's right.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

They used the wrong dinosaur. It's also. It's supposed to be a Tyrannosaurus rex. Which is the great Thunder Lizard.

[Neil Campbell]

The sound of thunder. Oh, see, this guy gets it

[Jason Mantzoukas]

all right. Yes, back there.

[June Diane Raphael]

So there's a point where they show the humans they're the last point of the time wave, right?

[Guest Expert]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

They show them turned into these, like, fish people.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah, the catfish Lady.

[June Diane Raphael]

But the buildings are still there.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, this is my issue with the whole thing. I don't understand, like, well, when would the building. Like, it's as if the time ripples. Like, like they don't. Okay, so my understanding is, to your point, sir, about reading the Ray Bradbury story, that one moment would forever change everything going forward. So there would never have been a building. It would just be an underwater world of catfish people. Right. Like, that would be what we would be in. But this movie says it does it in phases, but it seems like the phases just work around the pre existing infrastructure that we have. So it would never be a fully realized future. So it would just be this bastardization. Like, it would be like catfish people living in skyscrapers next to taxi cars that are covered in vines.

[Neil Campbell]

That's the movie I wanna watch. I wanna watch the movie where the time wave comes and Ed Burns falls in love with catfish Lady. Like, show me that movie. This movie makes no sense and I hate it.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Anyone feel like they've got a really great one? Yeah. Yes, you have. Yeah, we have two. Okay. Yeah, let's go. Yes, you can go. You can go. I'll let you both go. So this is part of the movie where they see the big, like, future monkeys that are chasing. Yeah. And then they get in the car and the bats attack them. And then they go to a place where it's really dark and there's something on the ceiling.

[Neil Campbell]

And they look up, but it's the monkeys, not the bats. Upside down.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Right. Why was it the monkeys? Right. Why weren't they?

[Neil Campbell]

Cause they gotta keep you guessing, bro.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I also was confused about why the monkeys all went to attack one person. There seemed to be about 50 monkeys eating one. About 175 pound, man.

[Neil Campbell]

Well, also, if I'm Ed Burns and my buddy is there and he's about to get like, mauled by all the. Shoot him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah.

[Neil Campbell]

Put him out of his push.

[June Diane Raphael]

Shoot him out. I was really upset about that. I thought that that's where we were headed. And when he was doing that monologue. Yeah, why not?

[Neil Campbell]

Oh, he's gonna kill him.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Well, but. But if he shot him with that ice bullet. We saw that ice bolt. Does it just decimates? Like he would. He would Basically, that's better than being torn apart. No, no, you gotta keep the. You got. It's bait. It would be like giving a dog a biscuit. But stomping on it before, like, you gotta. They gotta eat that full biscuit.

[Neil Campbell]

What.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Next question.

[Neil Campbell]

You. You're talking about that man like, he's a dog biscuit.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

That's what he was to that monkey. He was a dog biscuit.

[Neil Campbell]

If I'm at Burns, I'm like, at least let me stop my friend.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[Neil Campbell]

Wow.

[June Diane Raphael]

So we noticed that S. Kingsley has champagne towers at the.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yes.

[June Diane Raphael]

Travel.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, I love this. Yeah. There a Ben Kingsley.

[June Diane Raphael]

I appreciate. That was a joint question, too.

[Neil Campbell]

Yes. I like that.

[June Diane Raphael]

It. We noticed.

[Neil Campbell]

We noticed.

[June Diane Raphael]

We noticed that.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I appreciate.

[Neil Campbell]

We get it. You're in a couple.

[June Diane Raphael]

I got it. Everybody else, we get it.

[Neil Campbell]

You found love.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh. What I. What I do think is so funny about this champagne tower. All right, so look at this champagne tower. The champagne tower.

[Neil Campbell]

In the movie, we did this together. We found

[Jason Mantzoukas]

the champagne tower is for a giant party of people. Each time it seems like two people go, like, how many people are fucking drinking champagne? And then I think I remember even, like, Ed Burns bringing a champagne bottle in. Like, there's no.

[June Diane Raphael]

The champagne tower also seems to be so bottom heavy. Like, it feels like they're missing a layer. Because if you're taking. If you're taking champagne from the bottom, there should be more on that second layer.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

There's 22 glasses on the bottom level, 22 on the bottom. Five glasses above that. So 22, 5, 3, and 1.

[June Diane Raphael]

What I hope is that no one who is going over there to get champagne is taking from that second level.

[Neil Campbell]

This is a Jenga scenario.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, my goodness. All right, well, obviously we answered every question there is imaginable about a Sound of thunder. But you know what? We might have been too hard on it. There might be people out there with a different opinion. It is now time for second opinions. Now,

[Neil Campbell]

what would you do for this movie's review? Would you rate it appropriately? Lizard Baboon's airtight plot. Kingsley's hair and all this super realistic CG. Now it's time for some second opinions. Made 12 years after Jurassic Park. Time for some second opinions. This movie lost millions of dollars. Time for some second opinions.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, wow. Home run. Home run. Two home runs.

[Neil Campbell]

Great work.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Great work, L.A. bringing it.

[Neil Campbell]

My only note. You should have mentioned those taxis, bro.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All right, here we are. A Sound of Thunder. Second Opinions. There are a lot of positive reviews here.

[Neil Campbell]

No, there are.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Let's start off with jhjreview says, what a fun movie to watch. I use this to help teach the butterfly effect.

[Neil Campbell]

To who?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

The title, perfect film for English class. Five stars. So there you go.

[Neil Campbell]

Your children.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Take your school. Get them out of that school. This one's written by.

[Neil Campbell]

Can you imagine your kids coming home from school and being like. We watched something called A Sound of Thunder.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I will tell you that my. When I was a kid, you could get.

[Neil Campbell]

Here we go. Spotlight.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You could get. You know, you could tape pay per view movies and you could have them on a VHS. And my teacher was always trying to take my VHS's of my pay per viewed movies, like. And she's like, oh, you know, what do you have? What have you been watching? Can I borrow them and wait,

[Neil Campbell]

I'm gonna stop you there. Paul, what was the nature of your relationship with this teacher?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

What do you.

[Neil Campbell]

What do you have? What do you got? What do you got? What do you got? What do you got? What do you got? What do you got? It was cool, you holding vhs.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She was a.

[Neil Campbell]

You got Betamax. What do you got?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

She was a cooler, younger teacher.

[Neil Campbell]

Oh, God.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And she saw that I had. So she would always come up to me and like, hey, can I borrow, like, Ferris Bueller's Day Off? And I was like, all right, sure. And then. But I was nervous about giving my VHS my. You know, because I taped this off paper. I don't want to lose it, you know, I was nervous about giving it to my teacher.

[Neil Campbell]

Are these the videos that your dad would erase the nudity out of?

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Oh, yeah, sure, definitely. I mean, those are part of the. Yeah. Armed and Dangerous was the one that he did that one for. Which doesn't even really have nudity. So I just want to point out

[Neil Campbell]

you've told a story in which your relationship with an adult is deeply problematic.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Never. Never will end. It will never end. And talking about deeply problematic, this last review, I tried to figure out where to start and end it, and I don't know where. And I'm just. Bear with me here. It's written by Pierce Bros.

[Paul Shearer]

Yes.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

And who did not get the part. So it goes like this. This movie really hit the spot for me. It was refreshing seeing CGI used in this fashion. I would hope that what I'm talking about, when it comes to how a movie is phenomenologically placed in a society that, you know, it's being done in a certain fashion that's aesthetically common and boring, with the aspect ratio being ultra high def, where it Feels like you are on an acid trip throughout the whole movie. That's how I feel when I watch every movie. The more fantastical, the more acidic the trip is. I decided to travel into yada, yada, yada. Mainstream this and mainstream that in a mainstreamly rare way in which I believe that movies are the gateway to the next dimension. Through the occult. As above, so below. This movie was a movie. I loved it and it hit a real nice sweet spot for me. In science fantasy, the title phenomenologically placed gem that a society whom is used to everything being done in certain fashion and aesthetically common and boring way. Five stars.

[Neil Campbell]

Well read. That was.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

I was really nervous reading it, but that's not. That's how it is written. Sound of Thunder came out in 2005. It's an hour and 50 minutes. It has a six on rotten tomatoes, but an 18% for the audience score. The budget was 80 million. It was cut to 30. The opening gross was opening weekend. They open up the paper. 2005. How much did it make? $917,000. Domestic gross 1.9 million.

[Neil Campbell]

Wow.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Worldwide gross 11 million. These are the top three movies of 2005. Star wars, episode three, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire and War of the Worlds. All right, this.

[Neil Campbell]

The fact that those movies exist at the same time as this wild is insane.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You know, like we said, Peter Himes, great director, made one of my favorite movies, Running Scared. But also made Time Cop, Sudden Death, End of Days and the Musketeer. Another problem besides the budget being cut from this movie. There were severe floods in the Czech Republic, so all the sets were damaged. The crew was constantly scrambling for high ground and moving sets and equipment to safety. They had to move out of their hotels as the water rose because their accommodations were red tagged. So maybe, maybe Ed Burns is reacting so nonchalantly because he is living it already.

[June Diane Raphael]

He goes to set to just sort of like, relax.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Jason. June.

[Neil Campbell]

What? You want me to walk on a green screen? Great.

[Guest Expert]

Yeah.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's like, cool.

[Neil Campbell]

Room flooded last night.

[June Diane Raphael]

I can calm down.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

All my personal objects are gone. But, you know, I wish I could see what I had. I have all these cardboard boxes. Would you recommend this film?

[Neil Campbell]

No, I would not.

[June Diane Raphael]

No.

[Neil Campbell]

No. This was. This was a real bummer.

[June Diane Raphael]

Yeah.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

We didn't even talk about like the Just prolonged chase scenes that are kind of like. It's boring. Yeah, it's.

[Neil Campbell]

The quest goals are pointless. We have to go to this guy's apartment to see if he changed the past. No, we have to go to this guy's apartment to see if he changed the past. So none of it really is satisfying. So the answer is watch it. If you're listening to the podcast, watch it to see what we're talking about. But don't watch the whole movie. You don't.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

You got to watch it for the cgi. I mean, honestly, it is honestly some of the worst, like the best worst CGI I've ever seen in a movie

[Neil Campbell]

that has like Ben Sir. Ben Kingsley.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Yeah.

[Neil Campbell]

Ed Burton in a movie that has like real, like actors in a real setting like this feels like a, like a Neil Breen movie or something like that. You know, it is.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

It needs to be seen. And yeah, so for that I would say definitely take a little fast forward to it. But watch it, watch it. It goes down well. It doesn't go down easy. It's long.

[June Diane Raphael]

It's really rough, actually.

[Jason Mantzoukas]

Very long. Yeah, it's very long. Anyway, that is all for tonight. A big thank you to Alec in the booth, Devin in the booth, our producer Molly Reynolds, our producer Cody Fisher, our researchers Nate Kiley, and of course, our movie picking producer, Avril Halley. Your outdoor space is where you unwind and make memories. So make it count. Belgard pavers are designed to elevate your outdoors. Design forward and built to last. Learn [e-mail] that's B L G A.

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