Cool as Ice w/ Brian Huskey & Vanilla Ice (Classic)

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Podcast: How Did This Get Made?

Episode: Cool as Ice w/ Brian Huskey & Vanilla Ice (Classic)
Release Date: August 11, 2026
Hosts: Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas
Guests: Brian Huskey, Vanilla Ice (final segment)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives headfirst into the deliriously bizarre 1991 cult film Cool as Ice, starring Vanilla Ice at the height of his fame. Comedians Paul Scheer, June Diane Raphael, Jason Mantzoukas, and guest Brian Huskey dissect this colorful, confounding journey through 90s fashion, surreal storytelling, and questionable filmmaking decisions. The cherry on top: Vanilla Ice himself drops by for the last 15 minutes for a candid interview, embracing the weirdness and answering the panel’s burning questions about the film’s production, legacy, and his personal experience.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Film’s Opening (Credits & Music Video Aesthetic)

[03:00-04:30]

• The panel marvels at how the film opens with an endless, 6-minute credit sequence styled as a low-budget music video.
• June: “I kept on thinking, like, okay, I’m just gonna do this one thing while the credits is on. And they came back and they were still coming.” [03:34]
• Paul: Points out the video nature: “It’s like a $30 music video. There’s no production value there.” [03:46]
• Naomi Campbell cameo as a backup singer is briefly noted as a highlight [04:17].

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2. Plot Absurdities & Character Motivation

[04:44-12:00]

• The hosts puzzle over the movie’s lack of clear motivation for Vanilla Ice’s “Johnny” and his crew.
• June: “The big mystery of the movie is, like, what is his job?” [04:46]
• Jokes about the crew as “touring rap group” with no equipment.
• Transition from urban music video to idyllic countryside is described as “through the looking glass from the word go.” [04:51]
• Hilariously ineffective meet-cute: Vanilla Ice jumps a fence, nearly kills the love interest with his motorcycle, then tries to flirt.
  • Brian: “He starts racing the horse...and makes this woman fall off the horse. Maybe break her spine.” [06:18]
  • June: “That’s the craziest way to meet a lady in the movie.” [06:32]

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3. Set Design & Town Hilarity

[07:00-12:50]

• The “Beetlejuice/Pee-Wee’s Playhouse” house as motorcycle repair shop boggles the group.
• Quirky mechanics and townspeople are “the craziest people in town.”
• Paul notes the race dynamics and how the movie awkwardly sidesteps any meaningful commentary:
  • “The black white issue is almost so...the black people never leave that one little area.” [08:55]
• Everyone lampoons the direction to background extras:
  • Brian: “...the director said, everyone fucking act as hard as you can. If you’re an extra, act the fucking shit out of this scene.” [09:33]
  • June: “There is one really racist reaction shot when there's an older guy...then he looks out and sees that it's a bunch of black kids.” [10:00]

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4. Narrative Inconsistencies & Dreamlike Quality

[12:12-13:54, 17:06-18:06]

• The film’s “logic” is absent: sudden location changes, unclear motivations, scenes that serve no narrative setup.
• Brian: “If you put all his dialogue together...it would be one page.” [13:03]
• The “State of Mind” license plate sparks a wild panel theory that the movie is all taking place in a dreamscape.
• Heavy mockery of overwritten/underwritten scenes; panel compares the film’s aesthetic to “Tree of Life,” “Requiem for a Dream,” and Tim Burton movies for its surreal set design.

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5. Surprising Technical Credits

[17:06-17:43]

• Shock as Paul reveals the film’s cinematographer was Janusz Kaminski, later Spielberg’s go-to DP.
• Jason: “We can do this one shot that I did on Cool as Ice.” [17:56]

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6. Relationships & “Romance” Montage

[20:35-28:32]

• The romance between Vanilla Ice’s Johnny and Kat makes little sense, escalating quickly with few scenes.
• Bizarre “day date montage” includes construction site parkour, weird horseback riding, and stilted dialogue.
• Jason: “This whole thing felt like one half romantic falling in love montage and one half training montage in a sports movie.” [28:32]
• June: “Is he in high school?”—no one knows. [28:50]
• Notable quote: Vanilla Ice (in film): “Drop that zero and get with the hero.” [15:19]

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7. Witness Protection Subplot & Villains

[22:00-24:43]

• Confusing, underexplained subplot: Kat’s family is in witness protection, stalked by cartoonish ex-cops who demand $500,000 for murky reasons.
• Jason: “We shouldn't even poke too hard at this because it’s a fucking rabbit hole of insanity.” [24:43]
• The panel cannot figure out why national TV is profiling a horse girl from Indiana, but this broadcast “activates” the baddies.

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8. Final Act & Action Sequence

[37:23-41:50]

• Kidnapping plot unfolds; only Vanilla Ice demonstrates any competence in “solving” the case by magically identifying a construction site from background sounds.
• Minor fight scene: Vanilla Ice “runs motorcycles through a wall,” vanquishes the bad guys, and the romance is (sort of) resolved.
• Paul: “They save the day. They get the kid. Now...Vanilla Ice can go off with the girl. So where does he take her? Back to that fucking club from the 7 minute opening to perform another dance number.” [45:05]

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9. The Vanilla Ice Interview

[50:29-63:30]
Vanilla Ice joins the panel, reflecting on the film with candor and humor.

a) Production Experience

• He had significant input, especially in motorcycle selection and stunts (which he performed himself).
• The director allowed improvisation—many iconic quips are his, e.g., “Drop that zero...”
  • Vanilla Ice: “It was amazing… they let me be myself on some of these lines. And to see that some of these lines have, like, stood the test of time.... That’s crazy.” [50:55]

b) House & Style

• The house was designed for the film, not discovered.
  • Vanilla Ice: “Totally tricked it out.” [53:54]

c) Legacy & Reassessment

• He has come to embrace the film as a “cult classic.”
  • Initially “hated that movie for a while,” but now “loves it” and even enjoys its odd, psychedelic energy.
• Discloses he was only 19 filming the movie.
• The “nomad” aspect of his character was by design: “You’re not supposed to know. Movie magic, but we’re drifters.” [52:48]

d) Sequel/Follow-up Ideas

• Jokes about a possible sequel set in suburbia (“Cool as Ice: Retro with Clowns, maybe get Adam Sandler in there and do it in 3D.”) [63:14]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Brian Husky: “I want to thank you for exposing me to art… This is a very important film.” [03:00]
• Paul Scheer: “If you have not seen this movie, it really is like… you enter into a world where the rules that we all subscribe to do not apply.” [61:04]
• Vanilla Ice: “You could do drugs and watch this movie… There’s some trippy things in there that make you say, like, who did they make that for?” [55:42]
• Jason Mantzoukas: “This whole thing felt like one half romantic falling in love montage and one half training montage in a sports movie.” [28:32]
• Panel: Repeat and laughter at “Drop that zero and get with the hero.” [15:19]

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Important Timestamps

• 03:00 – Opening credits/music video discussion
• 06:18 – The infamous motorcycle/horse meet-cute
• 09:33 – Background extras’ overacting and social commentary
• 13:03 – “If you put all his dialogue together…it would be one page.”
• 17:06 – Revelation: Janusz Kaminski as DP
• 28:32 – "Training montage" romance
• 41:06 – “Vanilla Ice has beaten him up…Best scene in the movie.”
• 45:04 – Climax: Final dance number and “resolution”
• 50:29 – Vanilla Ice interview begins
• 53:54 – House set design answer
• 55:42 – “Trippy things” and film as stoner cult classic
• 61:24 – Nomad concept clarified, surreal film world
• 63:14 – Joking about a sequel

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Tone & Language

• Conversational, irreverent, and playful, with constant asides, tangents, and ribbing among hosts.
• Nostalgic but clear-eyed about the movie’s (many) flaws.
• Vanilla Ice is reflective, open, and at times self-effacing.

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Takeaway Summary

The panel finds Cool as Ice not just “so bad it’s good,” but utterly singular in its surreality, 90s excess, and narrative madness. The group agrees it must be seen to be believed—less as a coherent film and more as a pop culture artifact. With Vanilla Ice’s behind-the-scenes stories and willingness to poke fun at his own iconography, the episode ultimately becomes a hilarious celebration of a true oddity in cinema history.

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"You need to try and crack the code... these are movies that you need to see."

— Jason Mantzoukas [64:57]

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For Further Listening

• Follow Paul: [@paulscheer]
• Follow June: [@MsJuneDiane]
• Follow Brian Husky: [@TheBrianHusky]
• Vanilla Ice: [@vanillaice]
• Jason is (rebelliously) not on Twitter.

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Recommended: Watch Cool as Ice—not to understand it, but to simply experience it.

Transcript

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Imagine if James Dean was fresh instead of cool. It's Rebel Without a Cause with turntables and eight ball jackets. We saw Cool as Ice, so you know what that means.

[Brian Husky]

Now it's time for how did this Convey?

[Vanilla Ice]

We're gonna have a good time celebrating

[Brian Husky]

failure, not just be a hater catching any wonder how did this debate let's

[Vanilla Ice]

wall in the mediocrity of subpar art.

[Brian Husky]

Perhaps we'll find the answer to the

[Paul Shear]

question how did this get Made? Hello people of Earth, and welcome to a very special edition of how did this Get Made? We have a very special episode this week because not only are we talking about the Vanilla Ice classic Cool As Ice, but we have an amazing guest in studio to talk about the film. That's right, the one, the only Vanilla Ice. But he's not going to be here for the entire episode. Just for the last 15 minutes, but so enjoy that it's coming up. But in the meantime, please welcome my fabulous co host, June Diane Rayfield. How are you, June?

[June Diane Rayfield]

Good.

[Brian Husky]

Hi.

[Paul Shear]

Paul and Jason Mandukas. How are you, Jason?

[Jason Mandukas]

What's happening?

[Paul Shear]

We have a very special guest here in the studio today to talk about the movie. You've seen him on a million different things. Most notably and most recently, Children's Hospital.

[Brian Husky]

Sure.

[Paul Shear]

Brian Husky.

[Brian Husky]

Hi, guys.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Hi, Brian Husky. Oh, hi.

[Paul Shear]

All right, let's get into this movie.

[Brian Husky]

I want to thank you for exposing me to art.

[Jason Mandukas]

You're welcome.

[Brian Husky]

This is very important film.

[Paul Shear]

I honestly, when I was watching this movie for the first couple of minutes, I was like, really? Really?

[Brian Husky]

Well, what maybe you want to say for the first six minutes, which are the opening credits.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I timed it too. I was like, I gotta see how long that took.

[Brian Husky]

I stopped it right at the end of the credits. Like, oh, a six. Six minute credit sequence.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I was cooking dinner. And so I kept on like, we get it.

[Jason Mandukas]

You don't have to brag so much about how you cook dinner.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I kept on thinking, like, okay, I'm just gonna do this one thing while the opening credits is on. Sure. And they came back and they were still coming.

[Jason Mandukas]

Was it Julien Carrots?

[June Diane Rayfield]

Yes, it was Julie and Carrots. Salmon.

[Paul Shear]

I mean, but the opening is a music video. It's like a $30 music video. There's no production value there. And that's the leading point of your movie.

[Jason Mandukas]

There is like, no fewer than six legitimate, terrible music videos in this movie.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah.

[Paul Shear]

Oh, yeah. I mean, he's done better ones on MTV at this point too, right?

[Brian Husky]

Yeah, but it was at the height of like, the 90s. Backlit, just like, you know, shooting through an air vent fan that's flipping around so the lights flash. And that one thing just had. Yeah, it was just crazy.

[Jason Mandukas]

Naomi Campbell was singing Back up.

[Paul Shear]

But that's the thing.

[Brian Husky]

Naomi Campbell is singing back up and she gives, like, an opening. You know, she's like one of the. Then she disappears. Yeah. And then she's done her job.

[Paul Shear]

Well, I don't even understand because that opening, they try to tie it to the movie. Like, I guess he performed at this club.

[Jason Mandukas]

Who knows?

[Paul Shear]

Who knows? Maybe because he's leaving that club in the first scene and then he, like, signs that autograph or the girl gives him his number.

[Jason Mandukas]

Yeah, like the sticker.

[June Diane Rayfield]

But like, the big mystery of the movie is, like, what is his job?

[Jason Mandukas]

What is it?

[June Diane Rayfield]

Like, is he rapping?

[Jason Mandukas]

What is anything? What is anything? This movie was through the looking glass from the word go. I Literally was like, go. You mean who and what is happening?

[Brian Husky]

Well, it was like, okay, so they busted out in some warehouse space for. Yes.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Like an urban den, which is not really.

[Brian Husky]

There's no audience. It's mainly everyone dancing together.

[Paul Shear]

Everyone's in the video and dancing under fire sprinklers.

[Brian Husky]

So it's kind of a fight. Fight club for dancing that he's part of.

[Paul Shear]

It felt a little blade esque in there.

[Brian Husky]

And then cut to beautiful, pristine, like, Indiana countryside that was just riding along for days.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I mean, as far as the eye can see.

[Jason Mandukas]

Well, I was like, they get on motorcycles. And I was like, did they just ride to Nebraska?

[June Diane Rayfield]

What is it? Where's. Honestly, what I think.

[Jason Mandukas]

Why are they there?

[June Diane Rayfield]

This is what I had to come up with for myself. Okay. I think that these were. That they were psyched to go on a bike ride together.

[Brian Husky]

Right.

[Paul Shear]

And get out of this city.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah. They had to get away.

[June Diane Rayfield]

So they had been riding for a long time.

[Paul Shear]

Can I tell you what my theory is? They're a touring rap group and they're moving from one city to the next. And they were.

[Jason Mandukas]

No equipment.

[Paul Shear]

No equipment.

[Brian Husky]

We'll find out later that they don't need equipment. But that's later, guys.

[Jason Mandukas]

I was like, when they are fucking just riding motorcycles and they're all of a sudden, like, in like the Prairies and the broad is like, riding her horse and he jumps his motorcycle.

[Brian Husky]

Well, that was a big. That was a big moment for me too. He starts racing the horse, he races the hors, and he flirtatiously jumps the fence and makes this woman fall off the horse. Maybe break her spine.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I gotta say, that's the craziest way to meet a lady in the movie.

[Jason Mandukas]

Like, it wasn't, like, terrifying.

[June Diane Rayfield]

It wasn't like, oh, he like, hit a. Like a mud pile and it splashed on her face. It's like she fell off.

[Paul Shear]

When that horse rears its body and its head, it's like a scary moment.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah, totally. And the fact that a motorcycle came like inches away from her face over his head, he's like, what's up?

[Paul Shear]

And then she's like, get away from me. And he's like, yup, yup, she likes me.

[Brian Husky]

Oh, shit.

[Paul Shear]

No, you wound. You almost killed this person.

[Brian Husky]

I'm a very stupid person. Check that out.

[Jason Mandukas]

Okay, does anybody. Can anybody tell me why they just set up shop at that weird Beetlejuice house?

[Paul Shear]

Okay, without the Pee Wee's Playhouse?

[Jason Mandukas]

Why is that? Wait, I'm not kidding, guys. Why is they. Did they. Were they going to that house? No, not their destination.

[Paul Shear]

The bike broke down.

[Brian Husky]

But that's the thing that made no sense because the guy came out and started to say how much he would give. For the bike.

[Jason Mandukas]

Yes. For Vanilla Ice's bike.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah, for Vanilla Ice. I was like, okay, so maybe they just decided to take out the pages that talked about the sale of the bike. Now they're.

[Jason Mandukas]

The guy was like, oh, you're late. I thought you were coming before. Okay. The guy was acting like he was expecting them.

[Paul Shear]

Well, that guy was crazy.

[Jason Mandukas]

Oh, I don't think so. No, he was acting totally normal.

[Brian Husky]

What I thought was, he was a free spirit because his house was a wonderland of whimsy. It was so crazy, you guys.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Those people had no children. Like, what the fuck?

[Jason Mandukas]

They were motorcycle repair people, apparently. Genius.

[Paul Shear]

They were like. They lived in a Pee Wee Playhouse house.

[Brian Husky]

Yes.

[Paul Shear]

With, like, multiple globes on the front lawn. The house had a big map on the side of it. I mean, it was insane. And he comes out in, like, a railroad conductor's hat. And he's like. But he's talking like that, too.

[Brian Husky]

I molest children.

[June Diane Rayfield]

And he was like a cartoon.

[Paul Shear]

If you reveal that this character had killed people, like, you'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah, totally. That's the weird. But they're driving through, like, this Pleasantville of this, and everyone is staring at the. I mean, people on motorcycles.

[Jason Mandukas]

Yeah.

[Brian Husky]

What?

[June Diane Rayfield]

Well, no, the reason why they were staring, you guys, is because.

[Jason Mandukas]

Don't go there.

[June Diane Rayfield]

One of the motorcycles had broken down, and so they were towing another one by a rope.

[Brian Husky]

You're talking about the classic towing scene.

[Jason Mandukas]

Guys, I think what was really happening is people were like, there are black people in our white town.

[Paul Shear]

But that is not a premise of the movie. Like, I agree. Like, I thought that too. But the leader, Vanilla Ice, is white, and that never is brought up again. The black white issue is almost so. I mean, because the black people never leave that one little area.

[Jason Mandukas]

So later in the movie, the black woman is like, my grandson is. Blah, blah, blah. It's not his grandparents.

[Brian Husky]

No, she's covering.

[Jason Mandukas]

She is covered. That's what I thought. But then later, when she said it, I was like, maybe I just missed something.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I think what must have happened is that the bike broke down.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah, well, remember, they broke down the middle of the street.

[June Diane Rayfield]

They broke down the middle of the street.

[Brian Husky]

All the traffic couldn't cross the double yellow line.

[Paul Shear]

Yes.

[Brian Husky]

And then I think that the director said, everyone fucking act as hard as you can. If you're an extra, act the Fucking shit out of this scene.

[Paul Shear]

Camera pans faces and everyone's wide eyed and mouth agape. It is basically I was thinking about, like, what is so familiar. I was like this, like every actor in the parents just don't understand video. Like, that's what they look like. Their hairs are. Their hair is in rollers. Like, it's like. And their face is like, what? Like they're acting in a silent movie.

[June Diane Rayfield]

There is one really racist reaction shot when there's an older guy who's waiting behind them and he doesn't understand what the hold up is. And then he looks out and sees that it's a bunch of black kids.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah.

[June Diane Rayfield]

And he reacts and vanilla and jumps back in the car.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah. He literally pulls his hat over his face. He's like, I'm gonna hide under my hat.

[Paul Shear]

So basically, Vanilla Ice and his band of hip hop performers, vaudevillians, who knows?

[Jason Mandukas]

They're at that house and they break

[Paul Shear]

down and they get to stay in this town. That's all I wanted to say, but go on.

[Jason Mandukas]

And they break down and the people, the old couple who live in the magical, like, weird house are like, we can fix this bike. And they're like, okay, how long is it gonna take? They're like a day. And so then there's a music montage. One dude makes a pickle sandwich.

[Paul Shear]

Oh, no, no, a pickle. Peanut butter and pineapple and mustard.

[Brian Husky]

He's a singer and he eats.

[Paul Shear]

He's like, this is good.

[Jason Mandukas]

The girl eats blue hard boiled eggs

[Brian Husky]

and uses gigantic salt shakers. Which, look, it's. It's kind of a visual joke where it looks big in the foreground and she picks them up and it's really

[Paul Shear]

actually big and no salt came out of it. Or there was no. Yeah, it was.

[June Diane Rayfield]

The weirdest thing about the movie too is like, the way that they're. There's no. There were no like establishing shots of these rooms and stuff. So you're just cutting from the outside into these like, tight close ups. And it's like, for a long time. It's like, where are we?

[Jason Mandukas]

There's writing all over the walls. Are we the craziness?

[Brian Husky]

Yeah, there is that. That cello chair or something that I kept seeing. It's like there's an upright bass note. That's a chair. Okay, I remember that.

[Paul Shear]

Will you immediately knock down your premise? Basically, it's like, okay, so what would happen if these, you know, quote unquote, like, black, you know, hip hop people come to your town and it's like a White Town. But then they go to the craziest person in town's house, and it's like, well, that. Wait, let's deal with that now. Because it's like there's no.

[Brian Husky]

I feel like the writing process on this was, well, we want to get here. Like, we want him to meet her and we want this to happen. So let's just put them here, which is down the street from there. Like, there's no logic to it. It's all about just sort of like, well, we need this scene. So make this scene sort of lead up to that scene, but don't explain it.

[Paul Shear]

People say it is a remake of Rebel Without a Cause. I'm not so familiar with Rebel Cause, but is there a Peewee's Playhouse house in there? Does he stay with a bunch of crazies?

[Brian Husky]

Yeah, yeah. It's. It's. It's. It's a shot for shot remake. It's just a fashion update. That's all it is.

[Jason Mandukas]

Oh, my God, his outfits are unbelievable.

[Brian Husky]

Here's what I thought.

[Jason Mandukas]

If you paid attention.

[Brian Husky]

If you really paid attention to his license plate.

[Paul Shear]

Yes.

[Brian Husky]

That was. It said state of mind on there. Remember that? State of mind.

[Jason Mandukas]

So you think this whole movie takes place in a dream state?

[Brian Husky]

I think that he fucking took a ton of drugs and he went to sleep. And this is the madhouse that's going on in his brain.

[Paul Shear]

I do want to know the idea about who is behind this, because it really is in the writing of this. It is crazy.

[Brian Husky]

He worked on a bunch of.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Well, I gotta say, I think if you put all of his dialogue together in the movie, it would be one page.

[Brian Husky]

Yes.

[June Diane Rayfield]

He didn't really have much to say.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Mandukas]

Why was. Okay, so wait, we're getting way off

[Brian Husky]

track because we need to focus.

[Jason Mandukas]

So they move into the Smurf house or whatever the fuck they're living in.

[Vanilla Ice]

Right?

[Jason Mandukas]

And he's now fallen in love with the girl on the horse who inexplicably lives across the street from the crazy house that they're not staying in.

[Brian Husky]

Yes.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Ione sky, she starts.

[Jason Mandukas]

Yes. He starts courting her. But then she's on TV. Michael Gross, the TV's family. Family Ties dad is her dad. She's on TV for no reason.

[Paul Shear]

Well, she's on profiled on TV for no reason. An honor student who likes to ride horses.

[Jason Mandukas]

Who cares why? That is not newsworthy.

[Paul Shear]

And it's not even local news. It's not local news.

[Jason Mandukas]

That's it. Exactly. Because the gangsters see it in, like, wherever they are. So this is like a huge story about a girl and her horse that has no point to it. She didn't do anything on the horse. She's not a champion.

[June Diane Rayfield]

And this horse almost killed her. Like, can we just.

[Paul Shear]

15 minutes ago, I do have the scene where. Where Vanilla Ice comes to meet Bobo Ione sky and kind of flirt with her again.

[Jason Mandukas]

Now, why are we calling her Bobo Ione Sky?

[Paul Shear]

Did you just call her that?

[June Diane Rayfield]

She looks like Ione Sky.

[Jason Mandukas]

Oh, I've never heard that.

[Paul Shear]

I like Bobo. So basically, this girl was flipped off her horse and thence runs away on his motorcycle. And then he sees her at his house, and he's gonna go back and approach her, and she's, like, kinda into him, like, for no reason. So here's a scene. You can hear it a little bit. What the hell is that?

[June Diane Rayfield]

Don't ask me.

[Paul Shear]

That's her bizarro boyfriend.

[Brian Husky]

Oh, I hope he says that.

[Vanilla Ice]

How you doing? Fine. And the horse?

[June Diane Rayfield]

And the horse.

[Vanilla Ice]

Since when do you care? Wait a minute. You two know each other?

[Paul Shear]

No.

[Vanilla Ice]

Oh, yeah. Well, which is it? Kathy.

[Jason Mandukas]

Kathy, I just want to say this play. This scene does not take place in the music club.

[Vanilla Ice]

Come on, we're wasting his time.

[Jason Mandukas]

This is just.

[Vanilla Ice]

Oh, no, you're not wasting my time. I'm just cooling.

[June Diane Rayfield]

This is outside.

[Jason Mandukas]

Yeah, that's Ben.

[June Diane Rayfield]

You're wasting our time.

[Brian Husky]

Oh, she just. All right, I get it.

[Paul Shear]

Check this, though. She needs me.

[Vanilla Ice]

I'll be right over there.

[Jason Mandukas]

She won't.

[Vanilla Ice]

Yeah, we'll see about that.

[Paul Shear]

Oh, yeah, Cat.

[Vanilla Ice]

Words of wisdom. Drop that zero and get with the hero.

[Brian Husky]

I wrote that down. Cause I was like, I gotta use that.

[Paul Shear]

So good.

[Jason Mandukas]

And she came at that moment.

[Paul Shear]

She liked it.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Oh, my God.

[Brian Husky]

I'm glad you mentioned that. Cause the music is always present. The music for every. Every moment. It tells you how to feel about the character. Like, you know, they have the crazy music for the crazy people. And then the father, they have, like, all this domestic music and like. Like tranquil music. And he's always club. But they'll, like, have a scene where they cut to somebody else for, like, a second, like, walking across the street. It's like. And they'll go back.

[Jason Mandukas]

Like, there is.

[Paul Shear]

It's like she has elements of, like, Tree of Life in the sense. It's like, what am I?

[Vanilla Ice]

Wow.

[Paul Shear]

Okay, now I'm watching this, and I

[Jason Mandukas]

thought the exact same thing. This is just like, Tree of Life.

[Paul Shear]

And what about.

[Jason Mandukas]

Did Terrence Malik make this movie?

[Brian Husky]

What was the. What was the, like, Requiem for a Dream Freak out on drugs. Scene where they show the house for the first time and right before they watch the show. Oh, yeah, they show the family. Like, the paper

[June Diane Rayfield]

was trying to do was to say, like, this is a girl who really needs to, like, totally go nuts. And this is sort of the height of the routine of domestic.

[Jason Mandukas]

I really felt, wow, look at that.

[Paul Shear]

That's interesting. June did write her term paper on.

[Brian Husky]

I thought it was cool. Just reference rec room for a dream.

[Jason Mandukas]

I really felt like in this movie, and it's interesting that I said Beetlejuice and you said Pee Wee's Playhouse. I felt like this movie was a Tim Burton ripoff and that the people were trying to ape Tim Burton's stylistic choices to make it. Because even, like, the suburban landscape is very Edward Scissorhands, the house is very Beetlejuice and very Pee Wee's playoffs. Like, there is tons of Tim Burke. I felt like that's.

[Paul Shear]

Do you want to hear something pretty amazing?

[Brian Husky]

Oh, boy.

[Paul Shear]

You want to know who the cinematographer of this movie is? Janusz Kaminski, who is Steven Spielberg's dp. So he has done War Horse, Funny People, Indiana Jones, all of them. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, Munich. Like, this is his first foray. So the movie does look beautiful. Like, it actually does look beautiful, but it is directed by a crazy person. But Janusz Kaminski, the guy did Saving Private Ryan, Armageddon, Amistad, Jerry Maguire, Little Giants. No, Schindler's List. Like, I mean, he's done. Like, this is like, Is there a

[Jason Mandukas]

moment where he's on set of Schindler's List with Spielberg and he's like. I'm assuming he has an accent because his name is Janusz Koeinski. And he's like, well, we can do this one shot that I did on Cool and Ice.

[Brian Husky]

I remember.

[Jason Mandukas]

We can steal that shot and we can do it here in this movie.

[Brian Husky]

I said vanilla. Yes. This needs to be the shot.

[Jason Mandukas]

We start on Vanilla Ice, but in this case, it is a Schindler. And we move over here.

[Brian Husky]

I don't. Are they going to be dancing as he shoots them down? Because that's how that original scene was. I love my phone, but not my carrier.

[Jason Mandukas]

What do I do?

[June Diane Rayfield]

Well, there are 250 reasons to join T Mobile.

[Paul Shear]

Like what?

[June Diane Rayfield]

You can keep your phone and your number and T Mobile helps pay it off up to $800 per line.

[Brian Husky]

So I wouldn't have to buy a new phone?

[June Diane Rayfield]

Yep. Plus your plan price stays the same for 5 years on experience plans Nice. Find your reason@t mobile.com

[Paul Shear]

via virtual prebait guard card typically takes 15 days. After rebate, submission price, guarantee on Talk text and 5G data exclusions like taxes and fees apply. Queen Carvania stood haloed by the morning sun. An army hung on her every word.

[Brian Husky]

My championship. I have sold my chariot on Carvana. Twas a lovely suv, an inexplicably queenly offer.

[Jason Mandukas]

They're even coming to the castle to collect it.

[Brian Husky]

Tonight we feast. An offer you can feast on. Sell your car today on Carvana.

[Paul Shear]

Pick up fees may apply.

[June Diane Rayfield]

An undisturbed sleep is a beautiful thing. That's why a Beautyrest mattress is designed to give you unparalleled motion separation, isolating

[Paul Shear]

movement with our pocketed coil technology to

[June Diane Rayfield]

help you sleep soundly no matter what's moving on the other side of the bed, while providing individualized support for every sleeping position. People at their best get their Beautyrest for 100 years. It's so weird, too, in their courting process because they. He has her organizer.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah.

[Paul Shear]

Yes. Her black book where she has all of her scholarship information, which I also like that they.

[Brian Husky]

They do this twice. They show you afterwards that this happened, but there's no simple shot of him reaching in the bag. It's just like, I got this thing. Now I'll explain why I have this thing.

[Paul Shear]

She, like, she said, somebody took my black book. They're not even.

[June Diane Rayfield]

They say organizer, like, 50 minutes. They're not even close enough.

[Paul Shear]

They're not even close enough for that to happen.

[Jason Mandukas]

Like, there was a horse. I assumed it fell off the horse. Am I wrong?

[Paul Shear]

I thought it was in her bag.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I'm confused now. She was riding the horse with, like, a purse.

[Brian Husky]

No, no, no, no, no. Well, she always has her organizer with her.

[June Diane Rayfield]

That's true.

[Brian Husky]

She keeps it in there.

[Jason Mandukas]

That's true. Oh, my God. There is so much more of this movie we need to talk about.

[Paul Shear]

So, basically, you have this courtship, which is not even a courtship, because she's kind of into him.

[Jason Mandukas]

She wakes up and he's in her bed feeding her ice.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Wait, I like that scene, guys.

[Jason Mandukas]

She does not know his name. She wakes up, he is in her bed jamming ice in her goddamn mouth like fucking Spike Lee. And do the right thing.

[June Diane Rayfield]

That's how she waves.

[Paul Shear]

That's what it feels like, too. It has a lot to do the right thing.

[Jason Mandukas]

That was the craziest shit I'd ever seen.

[Brian Husky]

Well, it is like the courtship thing. She goes, like, at first, that guy Nick everybody calls Dick.

[Paul Shear]

Yeah.

[Brian Husky]

Totally fine. There's no indication that he's an asshole.

[Paul Shear]

No, Nothing preppy or whatever.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah, he's just kind of like. And he just says, like, you know, when you're good away school, I don't want us to, you know, break up. And then as soon as he shows up, he's like the biggest fucking piece.

[Paul Shear]

Just the worst asshole. And one of the reasons why he's a terrible asshole is that he's never taken the girl's brother in a. Like a joyride in his fancy car. Yeah, like, that was like. That's why he's a bad dude.

[Jason Mandukas]

And he underage drinks.

[June Diane Rayfield]

But first you think he's like a rich. And then like a scene later, it's like, oh, no, he's a country hick.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Like outside the bar with all these guys, like, it was so stupid.

[Paul Shear]

Yeah, he's like wearing flipped up collar shirts. And then he's like, I'm gonna break your bike, man. There's so much here. And the thing that's the most confounding to me is Michael Gross, you know, Alex P. Keaton's dad from Family Ties.

[Brian Husky]

Oh, my God.

[Paul Shear]

Is witnessed.

[Jason Mandukas]

We haven't even. We haven't even established this storyline. It is huge.

[Brian Husky]

And they do not establish what it is until. I think it was 54 minutes in. I wrote down. Tell us the truth. You keep mentioning the truth. And so we know there's trouble. Cause the bad guys have seen the guys on tv, they show up.

[Paul Shear]

Basically, that news story activated these bad guys.

[Brian Husky]

These bad guys who come and park outside of us.

[Jason Mandukas]

Yes, yes, yes. I wrote that down too. They come in the daytime, park right in front of the house, and they're like, come on, we'll come back when it's dark. You've been there.

[Paul Shear]

I know. All day.

[Jason Mandukas]

Sitting on the roof of the. Sitting on the hood of the car.

[Paul Shear]

So what's the game plan outside the car? The game plan essentially was just to walk up, knock on the door and say, hey, we're here.

[Brian Husky]

You know what? We're gonna give you a day.

[Paul Shear]

We'll be back later.

[Jason Mandukas]

Back off, back off.

[Brian Husky]

And then it's not a day.

[Jason Mandukas]

We still have not explained it. Michael Gross, TV's Family Ties father, is in the witness protection program because he turned state's evidence against dirty cops.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah, kind of. But he said all he did was say, like, all he did was say. He said, I used to work with some bad cops and I wasn't gonna be a bad cop. So they put me in the witness Protection Program.

[Jason Mandukas]

Internal Affairs. Internal. So when Internal affairs asked me about it, I told. So why not? He was a cop. He was a good cop. Which, by the way, I do not believe for an instant. He does not, by the way, Michael.

[Paul Shear]

But he always creeps me out when he doesn't have the Family Ties beard I don't like seeing.

[Jason Mandukas]

Wasn't he, like, without the beard? Wasn't he, like, a molester? Yes.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Movie.

[Paul Shear]

So I don't even understand. So, like, he put these guys away or. I don't know.

[June Diane Rayfield]

But it seemed that they wanted money.

[Brian Husky]

But that's the other thing.

[Jason Mandukas]

That's what I couldn't track is why they thought he had $500,000.

[Brian Husky]

He just said, and now they want some money that they think I owe them.

[Jason Mandukas]

Yeah.

[Brian Husky]

So it's sort of like, are they just like, you know what? On principle, give us $500,000.

[June Diane Rayfield]

And were those guys the cops that he put in jail? It did feel they were free now.

[Paul Shear]

Yes, it did feel like a child. Like a child. Like, I feel like a child. And then it's like, Axe Cock. Oh, yeah. You know, it's like, oh, my God,

[Jason Mandukas]

I love that book.

[Paul Shear]

Axe Cock is amazing. He's like. But like. And then the bad guys come. Cause he was.

[Jason Mandukas]

And they're riding dinosaurs.

[Brian Husky]

But it does. It feels that way also for the directing, because, like, it's like, all right, park the car here. No, that's okay. It won't be. You can't see it on camera. Yeah, but we're just gonna pan over. Like, I don't.

[Jason Mandukas]

That's okay.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I'm tired.

[Brian Husky]

I don't want to walk over across the street.

[June Diane Rayfield]

And here's my question. So Jack McGee and the other guy, the cops, the cops, the bad cops, they think that Michael Gross has cash in the house.

[Paul Shear]

$500,000 of cash, maybe, I'm assuming.

[Jason Mandukas]

And we shouldn't even poke too hard at this because it's a fucking rabbit hole of insanity. But, like, maybe they think that he profited by selling them out and then he took their dirty cop money.

[Brian Husky]

I don't think that was ever consideration by anyone in making this film. I think they're just like, okay, my

[Paul Shear]

favorite scene was when the copy come to the door. The bad cops go to the door. They knock on the door. He opens up like, hey, whatever his name is, like, how you doing, Steve? And he's like, jimmy, Jimmy. I'm not Jimmy. I'm Oliver Gordon. But he's so nervous when he's saying, why are you lying? Of course they Know who you are.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Why did he go on, like, national television? That's what I was.

[Jason Mandukas]

That's History of Violence too. In History of Violence, I'm like, why does Viggo Mortensen get on tv?

[Paul Shear]

But I mean, here.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Although I do think he looked a little shifty during that interview with the daughter. He was trying to.

[Paul Shear]

Not her. It's about her. But, yeah, don't do the interview then. Like, don't. Like, just don't get the. Again, why was it a national news?

[Brian Husky]

And the other thing they did say.

[June Diane Rayfield]

That's the bigger question.

[Brian Husky]

They said they had 24 hours to get the money. Okay. Are we sure they got two days and then they were given an extra day?

[June Diane Rayfield]

Yeah. Well, the time of this movie, it's also like these kids who've been sitting in this mechanic playhouse. Yeah. Did they have an extra set of clothes? I mean, they were there.

[Jason Mandukas]

They were also cutting.

[Paul Shear]

Vanilla Ice brought a lot of hats.

[Jason Mandukas]

They also were cutting for some reason, between day and night, like, constantly.

[Brian Husky]

Yes.

[Jason Mandukas]

Like, it would be like the middle of the day and they'd be like, well, she's at the sugar Shack. And then they'd cut to the Sugar Shack and there's a rock band on. I'm like, is it like five o' clock in the afternoon? And it's a rock. What is. What is the time frame?

[Brian Husky]

They are in Alaska.

[Jason Mandukas]

I could not figure out what was happening time wise.

[Paul Shear]

I also got pulled in by the jacket that Vanilla Ice was wearing. He has two jackets. One's an orange one. And then there was another one which was just words.

[Brian Husky]

And down by law.

[Paul Shear]

Down by law. Sex.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Sex. I saw that.

[Brian Husky]

I think. I actually think Stussy ponied in a lot of money for this because there's always a prominent Stussy on his hat or on his.

[Paul Shear]

I mean, they must have thought, like, this movie. I mean, this movie is wow. I mean, this. They were hoping that this is gonna be.

[June Diane Rayfield]

One of the craziest sequences is when Vanilla Ice and Bobo and sky go out. Finally, like, he gives her back her organizer.

[Paul Shear]

Oh, yeah.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Gives her back the organizer, which is like. Also, it was such a weird. Like, why wouldn't he have just given it to her immediately?

[Jason Mandukas]

Yeah.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Like when she kept on saying, like, I'm not gonna go out with you and I'm not interested unless I get my organizer.

[Brian Husky]

Ice knows.

[June Diane Rayfield]

He knew how to play it.

[Brian Husky]

He knew. He could tell.

[Jason Mandukas]

He's playing it like a her.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Finally, they go out together and have a. Like a day date together.

[Brian Husky]

Well, they Have a date montage.

[Paul Shear]

Yeah, well, they took it to the best place to have a date.

[Jason Mandukas]

This is a construction site. That, to me, is so, like, 80s, though. It's like so perfectly, like. It is like. It's where they're building the new homes. That's where they're gonna go and, like, have a day.

[Brian Husky]

But once they. Once they bond, then they go to the desert, and then they go to a field with a horse, and then they go back to the construction site.

[June Diane Rayfield]

One of the best moments, though, is watching Vanilla Ice try to on that horse. Oh, his first attempt, he just simply throws his whole body across the horse.

[Paul Shear]

Was that done for comedy or you think that was real?

[June Diane Rayfield]

I think that was done for comedy, Yeah. I think that was done for comedy.

[Brian Husky]

But to let you know, that took eight hours to shoot that because he's so not funny.

[Paul Shear]

To me, the best thing I've ever saw was the romantic parkour around the construction. Yes.

[Jason Mandukas]

Okay, this is what I wrote. Yes, go ahead. Sorry.

[Paul Shear]

It is basically like peekaboo. 4 minute montage of them playing peekaboo with the camera while music's playing. There's no sound, and they're just jumping over, like, swinging.

[Jason Mandukas]

This whole thing felt like one half romantic falling in love montage and one half training montage in a sports movie. You know what I mean? His shirt comes off, he's sweating. They're riding in the desert. I'm like, is this like an intensity. The intensity of physical exertion or are they falling in love? I don't understand.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Also, is. Is he in high school? Can.

[Paul Shear]

We don't know much about him because all we know is when he says the best line in the movie, in my opinion. What's it like to have parents?

[Jason Mandukas]

Oh, my God, I wrote that down too.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Mandukas]

And brothers and stuff. Brother and stuff.

[Brian Husky]

But then he's shifty. Then he's not gonna give it up because what is it? You have to. If you're not true to yourself, you're not true to anyone or another.

[Jason Mandukas]

And then she goes. And then she goes. And then she goes. It's good. And he's like, don't you want to ask me anything? And she's like, no, I think I know everything. And then cut to her going, so, where are you from? What? What is going on? But also, like, this all happens. This whole sequence of their day of, like, falling in love is so crazy. And their conversation is insane. Their physicality is insane. There is, like, nothing. She is basically. Oh. And that's the scene that starts with him. Her waking up with him in her bed. And she's like, shh. Don't want to wake up my parents. And then they proceed to have a full, loud conversation in the house, and the brother walks in on them.

[Brian Husky]

She almost dripped for her. Yeah. She almost starts to take her clothes off, like.

[Jason Mandukas]

And then the little brother's like, when you're done having the sex, when you're done making sex.

[Brian Husky]

Tommy says the funniest stuff in the movie for me. Tommy is an imp. He's a little precocious.

[Paul Shear]

Just so you guys know, the woman who played Cat, Kathy, is still working up until this day. She is doing a lot of movies. She's been in over 30 different movies.

[Jason Mandukas]

I found her.

[Brian Husky]

This was her Trial by Fire.

[Jason Mandukas]

I thought she was charming.

[Brian Husky]

Well, I kept thinking during the montage thing, I was like, this is a really good actress because she is genuinely acting affectionate. And she's probably like, I am. I want to burn my hands after touching him. This is disgusting. This guy's a creep.

[June Diane Rayfield]

The best moment that I thought she had was, you know, later on, they get into a fight because it's. It's. Her family thinks that he's one of the bad guys, which she isn't. But they tell her not to see him again. She comes back into her bedroom. Ice. She's given ice. A ring. Yeah.

[Paul Shear]

Oh, yeah. After their first date. A ring.

[June Diane Rayfield]

A ring to wear. He snuck back into the bedroom and thrown that ring into a fishbowl. Yeah. She walks back. This was an amazing.

[Brian Husky]

This is great. When she comes right in, she walks

[June Diane Rayfield]

into the bedroom, opens the door. Right over to the fishbowl.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah. It's just like, ah, I gotta relax, so don't be like, in my fishbowl. What a day.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Let's see what's doing with these guys.

[Paul Shear]

Also, we are not even talking about the fact that Alex Piketton's dad, Michael Gross, assumes that, and through a bunch of weird, really bad coincidences, that Vanilla Ice is a part of the people that are supposed to be terrorizing him and his family.

[Brian Husky]

Well, mainly because he saw him talking to the bad guys who were parked in front of his house.

[Jason Mandukas]

Yes.

[Brian Husky]

When he walked out.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Such a small town. Don't you think the talk on the block would be like, oh, yeah, there's a whole gang of, like, cyclists in that house over there. They've been there for three days, and they're dancing outside.

[Jason Mandukas]

Michael Gross. Okay, here's the thing. Michael Gross is in the witness protection program. The people that would want to kill him are now here. He is not nearly scared enough.

[Paul Shear]

He doesn't call the cops.

[Jason Mandukas]

He doesn't call anybody. He doesn't call the cops. He doesn't try and find money. He doesn't do anything.

[Paul Shear]

That's the other thing.

[Jason Mandukas]

It's like he's gonna try.

[Paul Shear]

He doesn't even try to find that money. Then his kid is kidnapped.

[Brian Husky]

Well, that's what.

[Jason Mandukas]

His child is abducted. But I think that's where it goes.

[Brian Husky]

I think they were really trying to make it. It seem like he was a bad guy. You know, they were keeping it murky for a long time.

[June Diane Rayfield]

That's interesting, Brian, because.

[Brian Husky]

Because if you notice, if you listen to the music, at a certain point I stopped watching. I would just listen to the music.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Are you the composer?

[Brian Husky]

Yes. Very proud of most of the work I did all on a Casio.

[Paul Shear]

And.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah. And so they were playing this kind of scary, menacing music for when they would show him, like when he'd look out the window and stuff.

[June Diane Rayfield]

That's interesting.

[Brian Husky]

But then of course, the kid gets too.

[Jason Mandukas]

What's it like having parents and a brother and all that stuff? I mean, that is a line from the movie.

[Paul Shear]

Are we to believe that he just was blue existed as Vanilla Ice? Ageless, like. And that's him.

[Jason Mandukas]

Immaculate conception of Vanilla Ice. Out of nowhere, it's just him and his pack of hip hop orphans. Like, I was. I really. I found this movie inexplicable in its format.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Like, all it would have taken was one line of explanation. Like, I'm glad we're out of that city for the day to see your aunt.

[Jason Mandukas]

Oh, your bike is broken.

[Paul Shear]

Oh, we gotta get to our next show. We don't know where they're going.

[June Diane Rayfield]

There's no. They literally drive out of the city.

[Jason Mandukas]

That's a tall motorcycle repair shop. Oh, it's this weird place versus. Well, let's stop here. What a weird house. We fix motorcycles.

[Paul Shear]

What?

[Brian Husky]

It's.

[Jason Mandukas]

The woman is reading a motorcycle user manual. I was like, you had to fucking be kidding.

[Brian Husky]

It really was. Like one line would set up at so many things and they just were like, no, no.

[Jason Mandukas]

A lot of times we'll shoot it

[Brian Husky]

and then they'll figure it out maybe. And then we'll do a twist so they'd be even more confused.

[Jason Mandukas]

A lot of times on this show we wind up, like, talking about, like, overly expositional moments or moment like times when people are making or explaining too much in movies.

[Brian Husky]

But not a severe detriment of his movies.

[Paul Shear]

Severe like you are.

[Jason Mandukas]

You are left he's crazy.

[Paul Shear]

You are left to make your own connection. Yes, it is.

[Jason Mandukas]

Choose your own adventure, Smoov.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Yes. And I. At one point, somebody says about the gang of cyclists, like, they seem like aliens. And I was like, oh, okay. Well, now we're on.

[Paul Shear]

Oh, I like that.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Maybe they were aliens.

[Jason Mandukas]

Yep. Earth girls are easy.

[Paul Shear]

We need to get into this.

[Jason Mandukas]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Paul Shear]

No, go ahead. I have nothing.

[Jason Mandukas]

I loved the scene. Okay. When she's forbidden from. Okay. Oh, we forgot about. We forgot about. We didn't talk about the Sugar Shack, the horrible band. And then Vanilla Ice. Yes. This is. I thought you might want to talk about this. Okay. So they go. So let me just set up it. So Vanilla Ice is looking for Cat, and they're like, he's. She's at the Sugar Shack. It's like the Teen. It's like the Peach Pit or the Teen. Like, Rock and Roll Hangout. And there's a shitty band there. And Vanilla Ice and his boys come and roll up on their motorcycles and arrive. And then. Go ahead, husky.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah. Oh, Then. And then they're like, oh, yo, this is whack. I'm gonna get on the turntable. I'm gonna get on the mic.

[Jason Mandukas]

Good news. There are turntables.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah. So they go over, they unplug the band, and the place is stocked with nerds. They're all nerds. And you hear. You hear all this under dialogue. Like, what's going on? Oh, my God. And one. I heard one guy go, oh, my gosh, I'm scared.

[Paul Shear]

And then he launches. And they're not even. Like I said, they're not even nerds. Nerds. They're like tape on the glasses.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah. Sweaters, everyone. And they're making a big deal. Like, he's having alcohol. Really? Give me a Coke. But then he starts to do a sexy rap. What was the theme of it? It was something about I'm as good as it gets or something.

[Paul Shear]

Yeah, that's it.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah. And. And then she comes out there, and she's instantaneously a slut. Like, she is just.

[Jason Mandukas]

Yeah, she is a giant slut in front of her boyfriend. She leaves her boyfriend. Oh, my God.

[Brian Husky]

And then he's like.

[Jason Mandukas]

He's on top of her on the ground. Yeah. He gets. He, like, mounts her on the ground. She is smiling.

[Brian Husky]

Smiling.

[Paul Shear]

She loves it. She's breaking her routine. Go on YouTube. Look at that scene. Because it's a lot of good. Dancing is crazy, I got to say.

[June Diane Rayfield]

He's a good dancer. He's a good dancer.

[Jason Mandukas]

But One of the things I wrote, I was like, people who got hired for this movie had to learn a ton of choreography.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah. Yeah.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I also just feel, though, because there's several points when, like, minor characters dance. I feel like they just. Every scene, they were like, okay, you guys, now this is for B roll. Now, just. We shot that out. Now just start dancing.

[Jason Mandukas]

Just start dancing.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Just start dancing.

[Jason Mandukas]

Everyone I like, including, like, the old couple from the motorcycle show.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Everyone's dancing.

[Paul Shear]

I am so sorry to interrupt for one second.

[Jason Mandukas]

How dare you?

[Paul Shear]

I just looked at the director. I was like, oh, I wonder what this director directed. He is directed. This is pretty amazing. Well, how did he get the job? I don't know. Maybe it was the 10 Playboy Video Centerfolds that he did.

[Vanilla Ice]

Oh, really?

[Brian Husky]

That's awesome.

[Paul Shear]

Playboy, Farmer's Daughters. Playboy calendar. Playboy Playmate of the Year. Playboy Wet N Wild. Dutch Twins.

[Jason Mandukas]

Dutch twins.

[Paul Shear]

The 80s, the 90s exposure. And then it goes Cool as ice. And then it goes back to a handful more Playboy videos than it folks. And then Inspector Gadget. Oh, my God. With Mavin Roderick.

[Brian Husky]

So that explains. So his attitude is, who cares about story? Let's get to the nudity. Who cares about the story? Let's get to vanilla Dancing or rapping.

[Paul Shear]

I mean, it was just like, keep it colorful.

[Brian Husky]

Keep it moving.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Here's a real question.

[Paul Shear]

Wow, that's amazing that he directed so many glistening.

[Brian Husky]

It's all been building up later on

[June Diane Rayfield]

in the movie after Timmy. Timmy or Tommy.

[Brian Husky]

Tommy.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Tommy. I'm so sorry. Tommy gets kidnapped. They don't know where he is, but Tommy's left a voicemail.

[Jason Mandukas]

No, I was saying.

[Paul Shear]

Oh. And the bad guys leave the tape in an envelope on the front step.

[Brian Husky]

Unmarked.

[Paul Shear]

Unmarked. And then when Vanilla Ice happens to go there to, like, apologize, he picks it up and he's like, oh, yeah, this is for you. Again, further implicating him to be a bad guy.

[Brian Husky]

Yes.

[Jason Mandukas]

Also show up at the. When they think nobody's gonna be there and the kid is there, and they're like, why aren't you at Little League? And it's like, why would you know? He's supposed to be at Little League.

[Paul Shear]

Yeah.

[Jason Mandukas]

You're just dumb cops who've been. You're dumb guys who've been, like, parked outside.

[Paul Shear]

What?

[Brian Husky]

And I thought they just dragged him to another room. Like, they didn't have any. They didn't show him being dragged outside,

[Paul Shear]

dragging him through the house.

[Brian Husky]

So I was. So the whole time that they came home, had the conversation, they were focusing on Vanilla Ice and The girl. I was like, the kid is in the other. They're fucking.

[Jason Mandukas]

What are you.

[Brian Husky]

I was like, okay, now we're gonna focus on the love story and don't worry about that.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Well, the crazy thing too is when. So I don't remember how, but Vanilla. But I think Bobo Ione sky goes to meet the gang at the mechanics and has the tape and they listen to it and they hear something and they're on the tape. They're like, oh, we know where he is. Which is at the construction.

[Brian Husky]

No.

[Jason Mandukas]

Vanilla Ice plays it back over and

[June Diane Rayfield]

over and over and over again.

[Jason Mandukas]

What's that?

[June Diane Rayfield]

What is he hearing?

[Paul Shear]

This is the.

[Brian Husky]

If you paid attention to the cinematographer's choice, when they put pull up on the motorcycle and that machine is crushing the ground. Yeah. Janusz knew how to do this. He did this in Raiders,

[Jason Mandukas]

showing the machines.

[Brian Husky]

Because your bullshit script is not establishing this later. So I have to do this.

[Paul Shear]

But I feel like also, it's like, that was like, right out of Sneakers. Remember that movie Sneakers? Like, oh, great.

[Jason Mandukas]

I know what it is.

[Paul Shear]

But they have that same thing. It's like Vanilla Ice has proven that he's not on the level of discerning

[Jason Mandukas]

that he's not a detective.

[Paul Shear]

I have not shown any skill in that either.

[June Diane Rayfield]

He's a detective.

[Jason Mandukas]

I know nothing. I would love it if three quarters of the way, they're like, well, you know, my detective agency's been very successful.

[Brian Husky]

I mean, I had to get away from my detective work in the city. That's movie. My bros are out here.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Well, the crazy thing, too, is when they roll up to the construction site, they're all on their bikes and they just stare at it.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah.

[June Diane Rayfield]

And she looks at it this. Her little brother has been gone for a little while. She takes a very quick, very cursory look around. Just forget it.

[Paul Shear]

Let's go.

[Jason Mandukas]

She seems.

[June Diane Rayfield]

That's it.

[Jason Mandukas]

So un investigated in her brother's abduction. She is just so in her own head about being, like, unable to be with Vanilla Ice. She does not give a shit.

[Paul Shear]

She wants to get fucked.

[Brian Husky]

Well, she's undercover. She's never seen anybody who has a jacket as is down by law.

[Paul Shear]

Waffle pattern back haircut. Like his haircut. One side of it was a waffle pattern.

[Jason Mandukas]

She woke up the second day after meeting him with him in her bedroom, shoving ice in her mouth, wearing those.

[Brian Husky]

Iceman wearing a leather jacket and shorts.

[Jason Mandukas]

Shorts.

[Paul Shear]

He's the only rapper. He's the only rapper that is comfortable in shorts. Like, I've never seen that. So basically they run their motorcycles through a wall. They have about a two second fight scene with these bad guys.

[Brian Husky]

The bad guys get do a little bit of bad improv that would. That the taller bad guy is so bad at, he'll be like, you know what? We're gonna hurt you. Like, what was improv like?

[Paul Shear]

Well, I remember when he was like eating one time and he just like, all the food just came down his face. Like, what is going on? Are you having a stroke?

[Jason Mandukas]

I loved the scene. Okay, so when the parents have forbidden her from seeing Vanilla Ice anymore because they think he's part of the corrupt cop storyline. So we're like, he's bad news. He's out to get us. Don't be with him anymore. She gets in the car with her friends and they're telling her, this is an amazing scene. Is that because she's totally blown off her boyfriend Nick, Vanilla Ice has beaten him up.

[Brian Husky]

Everybody calls him Dick.

[Jason Mandukas]

Everybody calls him Dick. Vanilla Ice has beaten him up. And all the girls are like, I mean, there is no way that Nick is ever gonna take you back. I mean, you totally humiliated him. And then somebody was like, I mean, maybe if you beg him, maybe if you beg him, Nick will take you back. And then. And it's like, no way. Not after what she did. I mean, what are you even gonna do? It's the best fucking scene in the movie.

[Brian Husky]

But who is she thinking about while they're talking?

[Jason Mandukas]

Fucking Vi.

[Brian Husky]

She's got a vaginal infection and she wants it to be Vi.

[Paul Shear]

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[Vanilla Ice]

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[Paul Shear]

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[Jason Mandukas]

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[June Diane Rayfield]

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[Paul Shear]

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[Brian Husky]

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[Brian Husky]

They.

[Paul Shear]

They save the day. They get the kids. Now, now Vanilla Ice can go off with the girl. So where does he take her? Back to that fucking club from the 7 minute opening to perform another dance number in a great suit that kind of switches every time he dances, which is awesome.

[June Diane Rayfield]

But she looked great in that shot. She looked great, gorgeous, wonderful.

[Paul Shear]

But they just go back to that club. So it seems like they were just going out for a joyride. I guess. They perform at this warehouse every night.

[Brian Husky]

Well, that's where. When it went back to that, I was like, is this a dreamscape?

[Paul Shear]

Like, I don't know.

[Brian Husky]

Why are we back in this?

[Jason Mandukas]

I also was like, then there's the moody secret where he feels rejected and he does a bunch of brown bunny esque motorcycle rides through the desert. And I was like, what desert are they near?

[Brian Husky]

That was the desert they fell in love in.

[Jason Mandukas]

What desert is this?

[Paul Shear]

But also the most unattractive shots of desert too. Oh, yeah, this is not pretty. This is like when you're just driving your car and like, oh, these are mountains.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Mandukas]

And then there's like him sitting on his bike. Him with his shirt off, laying on his bike. Like, there's just. It's like such weird.

[Paul Shear]

It's in a world where time does not exist as we understand it.

[Jason Mandukas]

The idea that you're telling me that he shot like centerfold, like Playboy models. That makes so much sense for how. Because his are the gaze of this film.

[Brian Husky]

His attention span is in snippets of idealistic moments that you would want to.

[Paul Shear]

It is like those video, like, I remember watching those like video centerfolds when you're a kid. Like, is like, I like to run and bike. And it's like you're seeing like these little, just like little Dutch angle shots of people, like walking through a barn. Naked people.

[Brian Husky]

He's probably like editing it. He's like, my dick's not getting hard. I don't know what the hell it is. Let's try another cut. Another one.

[Paul Shear]

Oh, my God. But I don't know why they hired this guy.

[Jason Mandukas]

Everything about this movie, nepotism. Fucking nuts. At the end of the movie when, when Michael Gross shakes his hand, is like, thank you, thank you. And then Vanilla Ice, it's the middle of the night, puts sunglasses on.

[Brian Husky]

Yes. I like really dark ones.

[Jason Mandukas]

And the parents go up to their daughter and are like, don't be out too late. And they're basically like, go fuck him.

[Brian Husky]

You go fuck it.

[Paul Shear]

You learned. He earned it.

[Jason Mandukas]

He earned it.

[Vanilla Ice]

Fuck it.

[Brian Husky]

I sickle in you.

[Paul Shear]

What a movie. What a movie.

[Jason Mandukas]

Let him melt in your body.

[Paul Shear]

I normally in this part of the show, we'd always read like a second opinion. There are no, there are no second opinions on this movie. No, no one, no one genuine. I mean, there's a lot of funny five star reviews of this, but it is all written and in joke. There is no one that really likes this movie.

[June Diane Rayfield]

He's not terrible.

[Paul Shear]

No, I actually found him to be. I said, I told him this morning. I was like, he's compelling.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Great phone structure. Like, he's pleasant on the eyes. Like he's.

[Paul Shear]

If he had a better script, I'd be like, oh, I buy this guy. Like he's, you know, you know, he's in that time and whatever you can do.

[June Diane Rayfield]

And there was something sweet about him too.

[Paul Shear]

You felt like, oh, this guy, he wants to flirt with this girl. He kind of likes this girl.

[Jason Mandukas]

It was frustrating because in a way I would have been on board for him and her and their relationship if it was just better told.

[Brian Husky]

Not a hallucinatory trip.

[Paul Shear]

Not as if it was Tree of Life meets Anime.

[June Diane Rayfield]

It's like, what am I watching on this planet?

[Brian Husky]

And I think it's almost like I wonder if they wrote the dialogue thinking it's like, oh, he won't be able to say more than like two lines at a time, so just keep it really short. But like I was like, he's not saying anything. He's just saying like, let's.

[Paul Shear]

And he's delivering. The one thing that's kind of weird too is when they meet all the crazy white people in the town like they always are. They're laughing a lot, like, haha, yeah, dummies. Which is a weird also direction. Like they're not playing it really. I don't know.

[June Diane Rayfield]

It's also kind of weird that those mechanics, like when the police arrive and question them about ice, they lie for him. It's like they don't know this man and he's being accused of kidnapping a small child.

[Brian Husky]

You also forget that they invited them to stay at their house for two days while they fix their boy after thinking they were gonna buy it.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Seriously, I know we've said this before. Something's wrong with those people.

[Paul Shear]

Oh yeah, something is wrong with these people.

[Jason Mandukas]

I would like to revisit them in a second movie.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Yeah.

[Paul Shear]

Oh my God.

[Brian Husky]

Can I say one more thing? I think that house was some weird house that actually exists in that neighborhood.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I wouldn't be surprised.

[Brian Husky]

And they were like, you know what?

[Jason Mandukas]

No, it's too art directed.

[Brian Husky]

Let. Yeah, they probably just.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Well, it is, but I think it.

[Brian Husky]

But I think it had some weird

[Paul Shear]

out because it doesn't fit with the plot of the movie even. No, I mean, why not go do a gas stat station way? I mean, just because you want to have a random dance scene and then later.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I totally agree. I think they were scouting around there and they found it and they were like, you know what?

[Jason Mandukas]

No, really.

[Brian Husky]

I think the house had some like designer elements and then they just.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Because the other thing, like you said, there's no shot that connects those two houses. No, he just walks out a frame and then walks in.

[Jason Mandukas]

Well, he's always like, I'm across the street.

[Paul Shear]

Yeah.

[Jason Mandukas]

Or whatever. But you never see across.

[Paul Shear]

You're not connected. So as you can tell, a crazy, crazy movie. We have questions and there's only one man for answers. That's right. The one, the only Vanilla Ice. Who he caught on a promotional tour for his new DIY Network show, Vanilla Ice Project Season 2 and Ice My House. He's going to answer all of our questions. And it really seems like from talking to Vanilla that he has accepted how this movie sits in history. And not only accepted, it kind of embraced it. Take a listen. Hey, everybody. We are here actually now. We have a very special guest in our studio. Vanilla Ice.

[Vanilla Ice]

Hey. Hey.

[Paul Shear]

Now, we all just watched Cool as Ice, which. Yes, first of all, I was. I will say I was blown away by this movie because it's a crazy movie. You're really good in it, and we all agreed on that. It is. Now talk to me about this movie because, because we. We have questions too. So what, like now it's.

[Brian Husky]

It's.

[Paul Shear]

A little bit of time has passed since you've done it. What. What was it like working on that movie?

[Vanilla Ice]

Well, you know, it was. It was amazing because, you know, you think about it, they let me be myself on some of these lines.

[Paul Shear]

Right.

[Vanilla Ice]

And. And to see that some of these lines have like, stood the test of time. What? It was 18 years ago and people still know, see, yeah, drop that zero and get with the hero. It's like what people still remember that. I'm like, how do you remember that? That's crazy. But, you know, it's a. It's one of those cult classics.

[Paul Shear]

Yeah, it really is. I mean, now, like, I imagine at this point, when they were coming to you, they wanted you obviously to be in a movie. Did they have a lot of money? Well, yeah.

[Jason Mandukas]

Was this at like the height of Your fame like this came about, you

[Vanilla Ice]

know, like they were capitalizing on the moment. They were throwing money like crazy. And of course I'll do my own movie. How many zeros are on that? Ch. But you know what? I had a great time, a great experience. And you know what the greatest thing is that it led to? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, man. Come on. The secret of the ooze. Are you kidding me? This is a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle generation. Obama. I heard that he loved and grew up to the Ninja Turtles.

[Brian Husky]

If you have a chance to work with Donatello, you have to take it in a heartbeat. Yeah, totally.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I gotta ask in the movie. Cause this was a question we all had. When you guys ride in on the motorcycles in that first scene.

[Vanilla Ice]

Yeah.

[June Diane Rayfield]

First it starts with the opening with Naomi Campbell and the song and the video and everything. And then the next shot is you guys riding through, like, fields and the countryside. Where had you come from?

[Vanilla Ice]

Well, you know, the thing is that we're travelers.

[Jason Mandukas]

You're nomads. We said that that was one of our.

[Vanilla Ice]

I have no home. That's the whole mystery of the movie, because you don't even have a pops in on this city all of a sudden, where did he come from? Who is he?

[June Diane Rayfield]

Who knows?

[Vanilla Ice]

Who knows? You're not supposed to know movie magic, but we're drifters. Yeah. And I did all the stunts on the motorcycles myself. We had a stunt guy, and I was watching him jump. And I'm a motocrosser, okay? And I've been racing motocross since I was eight years old. So, I mean, I'm like, I can't let my guys that race motocross see you do that little bitty jump. Let me show you how to jump.

[Brian Husky]

Wait, wait. So you jump the fence into towards ours.

[Vanilla Ice]

Jumps the fence, all of it through the wall. At first they were like, what if you scratch yourself or hurt yourself? The movie's just, we can't put you on hold. We can't wait for you to heal. I says, I'm not gonna hurt myself.

[Brian Husky]

Just watch. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no.

[Vanilla Ice]

And I just went back and, yeah, bam. Jumped it.

[Jason Mandukas]

And they're like, that's awesome.

[Vanilla Ice]

That was cool. Do it again.

[Paul Shear]

Now, like, what kind of bike? I mean. So did you pick your bike then, for that movie? Is that like. Yeah, all specific?

[Vanilla Ice]

I picked the bike that I wanted. They let me have a lot of control.

[Jason Mandukas]

And so I'm then assuming that the older couple in that crazy house were the actual bike mechanics on Set, right?

[Vanilla Ice]

They were not, but they were great. They were fantastic.

[Brian Husky]

So I have a question about that. That house. Yeah. What was that house just pre existing in this town is like this little designer house or did they totally trick it out?

[Vanilla Ice]

Totally tricked it out.

[Brian Husky]

It was a sick.

[Vanilla Ice]

Yeah, it would have been cool, huh?

[Brian Husky]

Because we were like. We were like, maybe it's this weird in this town. They found this funky house and they're like, all right, well, we'll dress it up a little bit and they'll be this thing.

[Vanilla Ice]

That house was too funky. I mean, even if you don't have an HOA committee coming down on you, I'm sure the neighbors, if they saw

[Brian Husky]

that house, it was ragingly 90s all about it.

[Paul Shear]

Was it like, what was like. What drew you to this story? Or was it like, sort of like, did you have, like. Was it like, oh, we want you to be a cop, or. No, I want to do this.

[Vanilla Ice]

Like, I sat down with him and actually kind of wrote it together.

[Paul Shear]

Oh, really?

[Vanilla Ice]

He wanted some. Some things that I would like to see in the movie. And of course I'm like, motorcycles. Motorcycles, Motorcycles, Motorcycles. But so they revolved it around the motorcycles and kind of, you know, got picked up on some of the light stuff that I like, and we incorporated it. And then I threw in my little drop that zero, get with the hero, or Looky, looky, looky and Cat's black bookie.

[Paul Shear]

We said the thing that you pulled off in that movie that is the most amazing thing is you basically wake up in a girl's bed that you just met the day before and you're feeding her ice. And it's not creepy. Like, you don't feel like you've pulled that off. Like, that's a hard thing as an actor.

[Jason Mandukas]

Insane scene. She's in high school and you are just in her bed.

[Paul Shear]

You feel like, all right, that's good.

[Jason Mandukas]

Oh, cool.

[June Diane Rayfield]

She's totally casual.

[Brian Husky]

I find it very relaxed.

[June Diane Rayfield]

She has an ice cube in her mouth.

[Vanilla Ice]

It all depends on who it's with. Is it the fact that you. It was with me. Made it all right.

[Paul Shear]

It may have been Michael Gross.

[Brian Husky]

And that's super disgusting. Super disgusting.

[Vanilla Ice]

But, like, it's like Charlie Sheen, you know, he can do anything. And you just can't hate the guy. You just love him. You love him no matter what he does.

[Jason Mandukas]

Probably. Unless you're Chuck Lorre.

[Paul Shear]

Yeah, Chuck.

[Jason Mandukas]

Lori probably hates Charlie.

[Vanilla Ice]

I'm sure there's some people.

[Paul Shear]

If you have not seen this movie, it really is like, it's it's so different. And we. I mean, it's. It's weird. There's weird elements to it.

[Jason Mandukas]

And.

[Paul Shear]

And.

[Vanilla Ice]

Well, yeah, please.

[Brian Husky]

That point. So at the. At the begin, there's. The license plate says state of mind. Was that just sort of like a little play on it, or is it saying, like, this is gonna be kind of a weird. Almost.

[Vanilla Ice]

You know, that's the great thing about it. Dreamy, trippy. You could. You could almost. You know, you could do. You could do drugs and watch this movie. And there's a lot of movies that are great like that. I'm just saying there is some trippy things in there that make you say, like, who did they make that for?

[Brian Husky]

Right.

[Vanilla Ice]

That's not for sober people. That moment. That's a little.

[Jason Mandukas]

Eating Bl.

[Paul Shear]

Eggs with a giant salt shaker.

[Vanilla Ice]

Exactly.

[Paul Shear]

It's insane.

[Vanilla Ice]

It has some. Some elements that are like, you know, Alice in Wonderland.

[Brian Husky]

So did you intend to sync this up with a Pink Floyd record and then find out symbolism or is it just.

[Vanilla Ice]

You're giving me too much control. I didn't have all that control.

[Brian Husky]

I tried all of them here. It doesn't matter. They just. None of them worked.

[Vanilla Ice]

And what were you on at that time?

[Paul Shear]

Lexapro.

[Brian Husky]

So the original screen was. Was it longer than what you guys had? Shorter?

[Vanilla Ice]

Like, it kind of. It evolved along the way because we were, like, making things up as we were going, because I think I did a couple of lines and they were like, that was great. And I go, oh, so you mean I can go off script and do that? And they go, yeah, if it's gonna be like that, go ahead. Yeah, be yourself. I'm like, okay, cool.

[Brian Husky]

As far as, like, your storyline with the ex cop father and the bad guys and all that kind of stuff,

[Vanilla Ice]

that was pretty much written.

[Brian Husky]

That's all written.

[Paul Shear]

When you released that movie, it was like it. That point was there, like a big premiere? Was it all. The whole thing?

[Vanilla Ice]

Yeah, we had a big premiere. It was right here. I think it was at the man's.

[Paul Shear]

Man's.

[Vanilla Ice]

And yeah, we had the red carpet, everything. It was great. Lots of celebrities and Bruce Willis was there, Madonna. I mean, lots of people. And it was just cool. It was, you know, sign of the times in the moment, back in those days. It's amazing. I never in a million years thought I'd be sitting here with you guys right now, talking 18 years later.

[Paul Shear]

I know.

[Jason Mandukas]

Cool.

[Vanilla Ice]

As I.

[Jason Mandukas]

It has that kind of crazy vibe to it where it's like, there's you watching it and it is like, whoever said it's like perfectly 90s in that, like, poppy, colorful, like insane.

[Vanilla Ice]

It makes you miss it, doesn't it?

[Jason Mandukas]

Oh, totally.

[Vanilla Ice]

You know, the great thing about the 90s is, is that like, that's like the last time we had a generation that we could define that generation. You know, you could say that these moments in that time, whether it was Vanilla Ice, the baggy pants, the hairdos, the shave, the eyebrows, the zigzags in the hair, or if you wore Z Cav Ricci pants or it's a crazy

[June Diane Rayfield]

time of self expression. Like, I was watching it, I was like, my God, like men. You don't see men wearing this much color.

[Vanilla Ice]

Yeah, exactly.

[Brian Husky]

Well, I was such.

[Vanilla Ice]

Let me ask you this. We've got 10 years that have gone by, or 12 now, in the 2000s, in the new millennium.

[Jason Mandukas]

What defines it?

[Vanilla Ice]

There is nothing.

[Paul Shear]

Just people looking down at their phones. That's about it.

[Vanilla Ice]

That's it.

[Brian Husky]

Or men are dressing like it's the 1800s again. Yeah. Dressing like pizza.

[Paul Shear]

Yeah, that old hipster looks like. And now you're part of the icp, the Insane Clown Posse. And you've done these. We're talking about these, the gatherings and stuff like that. How did you get involved with those guys, though? Like what? Like, what's your entry into them? Like, you know, were you a fan or did you. That they come to you, their hazing process.

[Vanilla Ice]

I had a weekend that lasted a few years. Okay. Way back in the day, 18 years ago, and, you know, I swam through some trenches. In order to get through those trenches, to get to the other side, you're going to need a paddle. They were my paddle. They helped me get through the trenches and find my purpose in life and who I am and embrace who I am. And because I had issues, I mean, people saw it on Surreal Life. I hated the old Vanilla Ice, the image and everything. You know, even though I sold 160 million records, it's not about money, it's not about fame, another car, yacht, house. It's about who you are, what's your purpose in life.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah.

[Vanilla Ice]

And I found myself hibernating because I couldn't figure out who I was. You know, you think it's hard for. You know, I did it when I was 16. Right. So you think of Britney Spears. She shaves her head. There's a transitional moment where you have to figure out who you are and what your purpose in life away from this larger than life Persona of being a celebrity.

[June Diane Rayfield]

So you were 16 when. Ice, Ice, Baby came out.

[Vanilla Ice]

I was 16. I did the Stop the Violence tour. I was on tour with Ice T, Stetsasonic, epmd. I was the opening act for the opening act for the opening act. Wow.

[June Diane Rayfield]

I was 11 or 12 at the time. And to me, you seemed like an adult.

[Paul Shear]

That's what I feel like, too. When I was listening to it, I was like, he must be.

[Brian Husky]

How old were you when you did the movie?

[Vanilla Ice]

19.

[Brian Husky]

Wow, that's crazy.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Because what's interesting with the movie is you do seem a lot older than me.

[Vanilla Ice]

Yeah.

[Jason Mandukas]

So that's one of the other questions we had was like, she's in high school, but how old is he? What is going on?

[Vanilla Ice]

I love how you guys dissected all. And you, like, just look at it so deep.

[Paul Shear]

Oh, my God. Scene by scene.

[Vanilla Ice]

I just think it's funny and cool that I've made peace with it. Now I can kind of join in with everybody and go, that. That's a great movie. Like, you guys, I hated that movie for a while.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah.

[Vanilla Ice]

I mean, it almost killed me. And then now I'm like, I love it. And I love the turtles. And I love, you know, the fact that it stands.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Why people still respond to it. Because it's like, it's so unabashedly what it is.

[Paul Shear]

It's like, it's fun to watch. And it is like, we, like. I didn't like. Everyone's like, you gotta watch that movie. I never had seen it. And it. And it was like, oh, wow. This is actually. I mean, it's trippy on a lot of levels. I mean, it's crazy.

[June Diane Rayfield]

What's crazy is, like, you do enter into a world. And it's interesting now to know that you guys were. The choice was that you were sort of these nomads. Because once the movie starts, you do enter into this crazy, like, fun house world. It's like where the rules that we all subscribe to do not apply.

[Vanilla Ice]

Right. And then you start to see the storyline a little bit, you know, and it's cool at the end. It all sums up.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Well, I asked about you in the movie. You and your love interest in the movie. In your mind when that movie ended. In the. In the world of the movie, did you guys stay together? Did you guys have a chance, your characters?

[Vanilla Ice]

Oh, you mean, like, did. No.

[June Diane Rayfield]

She was going off to college.

[Jason Mandukas]

But, you guys, June is living in the fiction of the movie. I love that.

[Brian Husky]

But here's the thing. She going off to college the first year. She's gonna have a lesbian swing.

[June Diane Rayfield]

She's a lug lesbian until graduation.

[Brian Husky]

Experimentation. And then how, you know, did you guys survive?

[June Diane Rayfield]

I'm just wondering.

[Paul Shear]

June wants to know, did your relationship in the movie, like, if there was. If we were just fast forward and if there was a sequel, would that those two characters be together?

[June Diane Rayfield]

Yeah.

[Vanilla Ice]

Like, you gotta remain a mystery. There's some questions that you have about movies that will never be answered. And that's the great thing about the mystery of movies.

[Jason Mandukas]

Okay, well, then let me ask. Let me ask you this. It's now, years later, is that right? Yep. Okay. Is it time for a sequel?

[Brian Husky]

Yeah.

[Vanilla Ice]

Is it?

[Jason Mandukas]

Where are they now? You and Kat get back together. You ride your bike back into town. She's a mom with kids, but her husband is Nick. He still is Nick, right?

[Paul Shear]

Yeah.

[Jason Mandukas]

She goes, come back into town.

[Brian Husky]

That house has been condemned. You're.

[Jason Mandukas]

But you're also, like, you should grow a beard and get all shaggy. You're not yourself.

[Vanilla Ice]

Exactly.

[Jason Mandukas]

So you need to get back to who you are.

[Paul Shear]

She wants to get back to you.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Another idea that it's actually Ice, who's now living a suburban life.

[Vanilla Ice]

How about I come in and that house is still that same way on the block. And I renovate it and that becomes season three of the Vanilla Ice Project on DIY Network.

[Jason Mandukas]

Now, it's a good plug, really solid plug.

[Brian Husky]

You caught. Is.

[Paul Shear]

It is on Saturday nights, right? It's Saturday nights.

[Vanilla Ice]

Every Saturday, the new episode comes out. 15 episodes. So make sure you creep on it, don't sleep on it.

[Paul Shear]

And you're on Twitter, right. Which is.

[Brian Husky]

Yep.

[Paul Shear]

What's your Twitter handle?

[Vanilla Ice]

My Twitter handle is at Vanilla Ice, simple as a pimple.

[Paul Shear]

That's. I love it. And. And so we got DYI, Saturday nights, 8 o', clock, ICP. You'll be at the next gathering of the Juggalos. Right?

[Vanilla Ice]

Gathering the Juggalos. I'm signed to Psychopathic Records. And.

[Paul Shear]

And all I'm gonna say is, you know, the Juggalos do make movies.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah.

[Paul Shear]

I feel like an updated Cools Ice, too. It would be. I. I feel like that could be amazing.

[Vanilla Ice]

More clowns.

[Paul Shear]

More clowns. I love clowns. You come in with a group of clowns. That's it. That.

[Brian Husky]

Yeah.

[Jason Mandukas]

It has a real circus feel.

[Paul Shear]

You know what? That should be the thing. If you are like, you've now become, like, a suburban dad, and then the clowns come to town and you kind of switch the roles. You're like the Michael Gross character in the sequel. And then they bring you into there. So society.

[Vanilla Ice]

I love it. You Know what? Maybe I'll. Maybe we'll do like, Cool as Ice, the first ever, like, retro with clowns, and maybe get Adam Sandler in there and do it in 3D.

[Paul Shear]

All right, so any final thoughts? Anybody have any final thoughts?

[Jason Mandukas]

This is one of those movies that, like, I feel like at the end of. Of a lot of these, I'm like, would I tell somebody to watch this or not? And I think I feel like you have to watch this.

[Paul Shear]

Yes.

[Brian Husky]

Oh, you mean.

[Jason Mandukas]

I feel like you do. I mean, like, really? But under. Understand, it's neither, like, so bad it's good, nor is it bad for bad. There's just something absolutely bizarre.

[June Diane Rayfield]

Some of the choices that are made need to be.

[Jason Mandukas]

You need to try and crack the

[Paul Shear]

code, like troll 2, the room, birdemic. These are movies that you need to see. You need to just be like, yeah, I have to. I always heard about this movie and I've never had the instinct to watch it, but now I feel like I must tell people. You have to watch it.

[Vanilla Ice]

Yeah.

[Jason Mandukas]

Oh, absolutely.

[Brian Husky]

And the only thing I can think is that the original script was maybe 180, 200 pages. And they're like, this is too long, Mr. Stin. You gotta cut. And so they just willy nilly put red X's on every page. Like, we don't need this. This is an important.

[Paul Shear]

It's just like. Yeah, it just. Oh, I want to know. I do want to know what Vanilla Ice is as an entity.

[Brian Husky]

I know because.

[June Diane Rayfield]

A motherless question.

[Paul Shear]

Brotherless, parentless, hip hop Nomad. Wait. Now, just correct me if I'm wrong, but is he a ghost? Dean dies at the end of Rebel Without a Cause, right?

[Jason Mandukas]

Yes, I believe so.

[Paul Shear]

So that's not really a remake. Yeah, it's a happy remake of Rebel Without a Cause.

[Brian Husky]

It's a reinterpretation. It's fair.

[Paul Shear]

Oh, my gosh. Well, you can always follow us on Twitter. Brian, where can they follow you at on Twitter?

[Brian Husky]

Hebrianhusky.

[Paul Shear]

I'm Paul Shear.

[June Diane Rayfield]

MissJundayan.

[Jason Mandukas]

I'm not on Twitter, guys.

[Paul Shear]

You are on Twitter. Rebel.

[Jason Mandukas]

And I'm a rebel with a cause. Guys, no Twitter.

[Paul Shear]

We have those ridiculous Cage T shirts. Make sure you check those out and buy them. And make sure you are subscribed to our feed and have automatic downloads turned on in the show settings. It helps us and we also just simply appreciate it a lot. All right, we'll see you next week.

[Brian Husky]

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[Jason Mandukas]

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[Brian Husky]

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[Jason Mandukas]

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[June Diane Rayfield]

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[Brian Husky]

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[Vanilla Ice]

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[Jason Mandukas]

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